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Get ready for an outstanding entertainment program.
The Jimmy Dore Show.
Hey, this is Jimmy.
Who's this?
James.
Yes?
How are you?
I'm fine.
Who am I talking to?
Oh, this is Sir Patrick Stewart.
Oh, hello, Sir Patrick.
How are you?
I don't believe that we've ever spoken before, have we?
On the contrary, almost seven years ago, I called in to describe eating my first slice of pizza.
Really?
Yes, look for it.
It's in the archives from the golden age.
Oh, I see.
So why are you calling this time?
Did you have your first hot dog or something?
No, my old friend.
I'm calling to promote my new show, Star Trek Picard.
Oh, that's right.
You're reprising your iconic role of Captain Jean-Luc Picard from the Star Trek, The Next Generation, correct?
Yes, and I'm very excited about it.
Will you be watching?
No, I will not.
Why not?
Yeah, I'm sorry, Sir Patrick.
Science fiction says it a John Ramintu.
James.
Yes?
Open your mind.
No.
Yes.
Look, it's nothing personal.
I was never a Star Wars, Star Trek, star or anything guy.
I just don't get the appeal of that sort of thing.
All right.
What if I told you that the series takes place, in the beginning, at least, on Earth, our planet.
And instead of doing something science fiction-y, my character is living on his ancestral estate in France, making wine.
Okay, so it's science fiction, but also somehow about wealthy French aristocrats.
Okay, those are two genres I'm not a fan of combined.
Well, it gets more classically Star Trek as the show progresses.
And I would have thought that Star Trek might appeal to you in particular, James.
And why would that be?
Because it depicts a bright future, essentially a socialist one, where the notion of nationality and race have fallen away, and people have learned to cooperate in harmony for the greater good.
Superstition has faded from the collective human mind.
Star Trek shows us what life would be like if we did everything the Jimmy Dore shows says we should.
Oh, yeah, but then you go zipping around in goofy-looking spaceships, colonizing other planets.
Isn't that really what the show is?
Space imperialism?
No, no, you are gravely mistaken.
The Federation does not colonize planets.
That is in direct violation of its mission.
You explore them, right?
Explore strange new worlds and all that.
Well, that's the first stage of colonization and exploitation of resources of native cultures, isn't it?
Wasn't Christopher Columbus an explorer?
Look what he did.
What in God's name are you talking about, man?
That must be the dumbest opinion about Star Trek I've ever heard in all of my days.
Where do you get ideas like this?
Is this how profoundly wokeness has infested the human mind?
You, sir, are a Cretan of the highest order.
Look, man, you wrote this sketch.
I'm supposed to be the reasonable one in the script always.
I know.
I just thought it'd be humorous.
Well, it's not.
I'm sorry.
And I realize this whole breaking the fourth wall gag we're doing is lazy writing in itself.
It's a crutch, much like the holodeck was in a lot of those episodes.
Okay, Sir Patrick, where can we watch your space show?
On CBS All Access.
What is that?
I don't know.
I assume that it's some sort of streaming platform.
What is that?
So on TV, you play a guy who can fly spaceships, but in real life, you don't even know about Roku?
I admit, it's rather ironic.
laughing laughing laughing laughing Ha, ha, ha, ha.
Engage.
Well, listen, thanks for calling.
Is there anything you want to remind us about?
Hold on.
Hold on.
Oh, what?
Before I let you go, I would like to point out that if you live in Austin, Texas, or anywhere in its environs, on January 31st and February 1st, go to the Velveeta room on 6th Street.
There, Mike McRae will be performing comedy.
He'll be doing that in the environs of Austin.
Oh, oh, in Austin, Texas, at the Velveeta room.
If you live in Austin or its environs, I'm sure your listeners understood, Jimmy.
Friday and Saturday.
Objective.
Engage!
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Now let's get to the jokes before we get to the jokes, shall we?
Hey, calm down, everybody.
If we went around calling every Democrat corrupt who was actually corrupt, voters might actually think the party was serious about stopping corruption.
Hey, I don't know if you've been watching the impeachment trial.
I haven't.
But the ratings are so bad for the impeachment trial that they're about to replace it with reruns of Cato Kalin's Good Time Hour.
Come on, Cato Kalin joke.
The way it was written was actually older.
Hey, you know, I'd like to stay mad at Liz Warren for voting two times to approve Trump's war budget, but have you seen her selfies?
I mean, imagine how much Martin Luther King Jr. could have accomplished if he'd just taken more selfies.
Hey, did you know that according to the Oxfam International, the richest 1% of people emit 30 times more CO2 emissions than the poorest 50% of the world?
I guess that's what happens when you transfer all your money to an offshore account by boat.
Hey, did you hear that this week over 83 California wines were cited in a lawsuit as containing dangerous levels of arsenic?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I knew there was something off about that last bottle of two buck kick the bucket chuck I bought.
Hey, what's coming up on this week's show?
Crystal Ball lays a progressive smackdown on a Clinton advisor on CNN.
Plus progressives are frustrated with Bernie's capitulation strategy and they're finally starting to speak up.
Dennis Kucinich endorses anti-war candidate Tulsi Gabbard, who now is on everyone's shortlist for vice president.
Plus phone calls from Patrick Stewart, Bernie Sanders, George Plooney, and Chris Christie, plus a lot lot more.
That's today on the Jimmy Door show.
So CNN is doing this thing where they bring on progressives now because of Bernie, because Bernie's been leading in all the polls.
So now they finally have to bring on someone to comment on it, right?
Someone who's considered a progressive.
So they had to find Chris Cuomo brought on Anna Kasparian last week.
Remember that?
We showed you that.
And she laid a smackdown on CNN's shit reporting on Bernie Sanders.
And it was pretty, it was pretty fun to watch.
This also very fun to watch.
Here is Crystal Ball.
Now, you know, Crystal Ball, friend of the show.
Santa Show.
And she hosts that new show, The Rising on the Hill.
It's on YouTube.
And it's up to 200,000 subscribers already.
So I'm trying to make friends with them because they're going to blow right past me.
And not a race.
So Bernie Sanders was a Q Hillary Clinton came out and said that nobody likes Bernie Sanders.
And so now they bring on, so this is a former Clinton advisor.
That's a former Clinton communications director, Karen Finney.
We already did a video about Karen Finney before.
She's horrible.
Horrible.
Well, she was part of the Clinton campaign.
What else do you need to know?
They lost to Donald Trump, and people still ask her opinion on things.
They lost to Donald Trump.
That would be like if the Chicago Bears lost to an eighth-grade football team and you still asked the coach of the Chicago Bears his opinion.
They still ask her opinion.
You know why?
Because there is a bubble.
And guess who's going to pop that bubble?
Crystal Ball is going to pop that bubble right now and watch it burst all over her face.
Watch this.
I'm not particularly surprised because if you look at the numbers throughout this campaign, he's consistently been the most.
Oh, by the way, let me just tell you this before.
I was watching this show Rational National, that David Dole guy.
He's the one who got this video.
And I was like, great job, David.
I'm going to also show this video.
So just in case you know.
So David also does a great show.
Everybody should watch the Rational National, but that's where I got this from.
Okay, here we go.
Watch.
This is kind of awesome.
I'm not particularly surprised because if you look at the numbers throughout this campaign, he's consistently been the most popular candidate in terms of favorability.
Obviously, he has this massive grassroots base, the most fundraising numbers.
And if you ask voters, not just in this poll, but consistently across polls, who they trust most on the issues that matter most to them, Bernie Sanders comes out on top.
So honestly, I think if there hadn't been this relentless narrative against him for years that he was unelectable, he would be running away with this thing.
I also think that the Warren attack.
So she says she lays it down.
You never hear this.
Again, I guess you have to give props to CNN for inviting her on to say this because they never did before.
And so she just said, you know, if it wasn't this unending campaign, negative campaign in the press about Bernie Sanders, he'd be doing even much better.
You never hear someone say that on television, that there's a negative campaign against Bernie Sanders.
They say negative shit about Bernie Sanders.
They don't say there's a negative campaign against them.
Away with this thing.
I also think that the Warren attack on him trying to smear him as a secret sexist or whatever she was trying to say about him completely backfired and he...
He appeared above the fray.
He also appears above the fray as Biden tries to attack him and wrongly accuses him of putting out a doctored video.
All of those things have only served ultimately to strengthen him.
And so, Karen, I know that I think it's fair to say that you may have some residual presentment towards Senator Sanders based on how he and some of his surrogates conducted themselves in 2016.
God damn it, about how other people conduct themselves?
That's such bullshit.
So, no, it was Hillary Clinton who cheated Bernie Sanders.
It was Hillary Clinton who had a secret deal with the DNC that she was now controlling the DNC while Debbie Wasserman Schultz was going on CNN saying the DNC is neutral.
It was Hillary Clinton who had a secret deal with the DNC to funnel all the cash they raised to Hillary Clinton's campaign in Brooklyn.
But she says, oh, I bet you have you have rightfully so a chip on your shoulder because of the way Bernie Sanders treated Hillary Clinton.
Do you see how this is backwards, upside down?
And do you see why when someone comes on like this, it's like she's speaking Greek?
They're all like, what the fuck?
So that's her bullshit framing of the question to the Clinton advisor.
And watch this.
What do you think when you hear Crystal's argument?
Well, I disagree that he's been wildly popular and wildly maligned for so many years.
Look.
He's leading in all the polls.
He's leading in the polls.
And the person who just asked you that question maligned him to you, asking him a question, asking you a question about Bernie Sanders.
She maligned him in your question to you.
And your response is, I don't think anyone's maligning him.
Do you understand why Hillary Clinton lost to a game show host?
Because these are the kind of nitwits she had advising her.
I wouldn't ask this woman directions to the fucking freeway.
This is politics.
Bernie Sanders is a politician.
That's fine.
I just want us to be honest about that.
But more importantly, what I think we're seeing in these numbers is to what Crystal said, he has a very strong enthusiastic base.
So it's not surprising to me that as we get closer to the Iowa caucus and no doubt from 2016, he and his team are very clear about what they need to do to win the caucus because Hillary won last time.
They've got that experience.
So they know what they need to do in terms of the ground game.
And I think, you know, the other piece of this is Senator Sanders.
So what are you saying?
Joe Biden doesn't know how to run a campaign.
What she's saying is, Of course, Bernie's doing well in the polls in Iowa.
They've done this before.
We beat them last time.
She slips that in.
But they've been there before.
They know how to run a primary campaign.
Joe Biden doesn't.
Joe Biden's been running for the fourth time he's running for president.
He doesn't know how to run a ground game in Iowa.
I mean, do you understand why Hillary Clinton lost now?
Because she has people like this around her who purposely stick their head up their ass.
So far they can see Russia.
Really has to show that he can bring the country together and that he can lead our country.
He has not always been seen as someone who would be a uniter.
And it's interesting to see in our poll.
Unlike Hillary Clinton, that uniter Hillary Clinton couldn't even unite enough people to beat Donald Trump.
Hillary Clinton lost the white women vote.
She couldn't even get women to vote for her.
Hillary Clinton couldn't get the majority of white women to vote for her.
Holy shit.
Two things that really stand out, right?
So this is the kind of bullshit that normally you only hear on CNN.
This is the thing that's fucking them up.
Why they're doing this now, of course, everything they do is for ratings.
So they know this will get them ratings.
So that's why they do it.
Because I'll tune in to watch Crystal Ball lay a smackdown on these motherfuckers.
But they're doing this now because Bernie's in the lead and they can't ignore it.
It's even too obvious for them to ignore it.
So that's why they have to bring on people who they consider to be pro-Bernie Sanders to give that point of view now.
Because he's leading in the polls.
And that's why.
And it gets better.
Can you beat Trump?
That's what people care about the most.
That's been very consistent.
But also people want somebody who can unite the country.
And I actually think that the fray back...
You mean even the deplorables?
You mean like that kind of uniting?
Call half the country deplorables?
You mean like that kind of uniting?
Previously, she would call some of the population predators.
Predators?
Call them super predators or call them...
Was a board member at Walmart?
Yeah.
She's a friend of the people.
She's a board member at Walmart as she's calling black kids super predators.
People don't give a fuck about infighting.
This idea that they don't want to see...
What is this...
Again, this is just made up.
Spineless.
This is just made up.
People don't want to see this.
People left, right, in the middle.
Jumped and cheered when Donald Trump told Jeb Bush...
Your fucking brother lied us into a war.
Everybody jumped up and cheered.
Everybody.
So...
This idea that people don't want to see fighting...
Is again bullshit.
And what does Hillary Clinton do?
Her whole game is smearing.
She called Trump every name in the book.
And a Russian.
And then she called Tulsi Gabbard a Russian.
And then she said Bernie Sanders is propped up by the Russians.
And Hillary...
Get the fuck out of here.
I mean, now you know why Hillary Clinton lost.
They're still full of shit.
She's got about 10, 50...
I say 50 pounds more of shit in her than when she lost to Donald Trump.
She should go out...
Yeah.
So watch...
Now watch this.
It gets even better.
So I want you to watch her face.
Because this is the way a mental case reacts to facts.
This is how...
Watch her face react to facts.
Watch this.
I mean, those comments are...
First of all, they're just sort of mean.
Like, nobody likes him.
I mean, are we in junior high?
But second of all, especially with this poll coming out, look how out of touch this looks.
And this is, I think...
So they're talking about Hillary Clinton saying nobody likes Bernie.
Even though there's just the most recent poll, again, has him ahead of everybody else.
And there's another poll that said he was the most popular senator in the country.
And then Hillary Clinton comes on and says nobody likes him.
Okay.
And so that's what she's responding to.
Let's start from the top.
I mean, those comments are...
First of all, they're just sort of mean.
Like, nobody likes him.
I mean, are we in junior high?
But second of all, especially with this poll coming out, look how out of touch this looks.
And this is, I think, a failure that a lot of D.C. has had, which has made them underestimate Bernie Sanders.
Yeah, if you listen to cable news all day, if you just hang out in this town, you're going to think nobody likes Bernie Sanders.
But again, the polls consistently show he is actually the most popular candidate in the race.
New rankings came out.
He's the most popular senator in the entire country.
So part of why...
That's not true.
Let's talk about it.
No, that literally came out last week.
Morning consult polling ranked him as the number one most popular senator in the country.
So, after you lose to Donald Trump, you don't get to condescend to anyone.
The biggest loser in the history of the world.
The biggest incompetent loser in the history of the world.
That's you, Karen Finney.
You're a loser.
Maybe the biggest ever in the history of campaigns.
You lost to Donald Trump.
And now, someone who doesn't have their head up a neoliberal asshole is laying a smackdown on you.
And do you see her?
The truth can't be real.
I mean, come on.
That's just because a scientific poll says so.
Who does she want to tell us is the most popular senator?
She's going to say Amy Klobuchar.
She's going to say Elizabeth Warren.
I bet you I could go to any college campus and ask about Amy Klobuchar.
And most of the answers would be...
We won't even know who is she.
The answer would be who is she.
Here we go.
...entire country.
But second of all, why do people like him so much?
It's precisely because D.C. hates him.
People hate D.C. The fact that he didn't come here to make friends, that he came here to stand up for the working class, is precisely why he is so consistently popular across polls.
And, Chris, why haven't you endorsed him in 2020?
Well...
I love that she says that on stage.
It's just so sweet to say it to their stupid faces.
You see their stupid faces?
She says the reason why people like him is because people in D.C. hate him.
People like you hate him.
People in the country hate you.
Do you understand how un-fucking-popular the news media is?
Do you understand how unpopular the Clinton campaign was?
The fact that you two hate him makes him more popular.
You fucking idiots.
I mean, I work for The Hill.
I like all of the anti-establishment candidates.
And so I'm staying out in terms of putting out an endorsement.
But, I mean, there's no doubt about it.
I like Bernie.
I like his focus on the working class.
I think that's exactly what we do need to bring the country together.
And by the way, worth noting with all this like Bernie bro narrative that's arising, it's really ugly to sort of invisibilize his supporters of color.
And in the CNN poll, he leaves Joe Biden among.
Now, I understand.
Like, you don't even understand the basic theory of politics.
You don't understand that when you push a Bernie Bro narrative that the Bernie supporters are male, white, and sexist, that you disappear the people of color who support him, the women who support him, the women of color who support him.
Which he's got more of that support than anybody.
So that's what that mid-deceit is like.
What?
Again, facts.
Do you see how someone from a Clinton campaign reacts to a fact?
They react to a fact like it's poison.
I'll play it for you again.
Let's play it again.
Visibilize his supporters of color.
And in the CNN poll, he leads Joe Biden among people of color.
So I think we need to put this whole Bernie Bro narrative to bed, too.
The Bernie Bro stuff is that some of his supporters are aggressive online.
Well, but it's about white men is what it's about.
His supporters online, you know, his supporters.
Well, that's the question.
We just say that.
We could just say that, and we don't have to offer any proof of that.
So we can just say that.
Unlike the Hillary supporters, who were fantastic.
Remember how Peter Dow wasn't a complete cocksucker?
Remember how Peter Dow smeared fucking everybody?
Remember that?
He did that for Hillary Clinton to progressives.
Do you remember how David Brock had correct the record?
Had a troll farm that did nothing else but go on Twitter and fuck with people.
Correct the record, which is probably a campaign finance volation.
But according to CNN, up is down, black is white, in and is out.
And a female ally of 60 years is somehow a sexist.
That's CNN.
And now you know why we have a show.
And now you know why Crystal Ball's show is taking off like crazy.
And now you know why they have to push Russia Gate and scare the fuck out of their geriatric audience so they can get viewers.
Because what they're peddling isn't facts.
What CNN peddles is propaganda.
They're manufacturing consent.
That's exactly what Karen Finney's doing.
And that's why she can't get that stupid fucking look off her face for even a second.
Why don't you just write on your forehead, I'm dumb and I lost to Donald Trump.
I'm wrong about every fucking thing, everything I'm wrong about, which is why I'm welcome on CNN and inside the Democratic Party.
Now, you know, I do want to say that I know like over 10 years ago when I would see Karen Finney on MSNBC, I liked what she had to say.
I was always interested and I found her to be intelligent, articulate, and interesting.
Now I see another person.
And I have to say this: when I see somebody, so a news reporter says, Bernie Bros, she says, Bernie Bros, first off, I have an issue with the news anchor bringing up the term Bernie Bros.
You're repeating a smear.
That's unfounded.
And we already know, just hearing the term, it's a sexist term.
Yes, right?
Of course.
You know, what if there was a whole thing about Hillary chicks and dismissing all the Hillary chicks, right?
You know, just out of hand.
Are those the Hillary chicks?
They're aggressive.
Yeah.
And the whole idea where I hear that people are aggressive online.
All right.
We're not in high school.
We don't need your mommy to come and figure out what somebody wrote on anything.
Somebody wrote something.
Wrote something.
Oh, my God.
Hey, you know what?
It's time, everybody, for us to be upset.
And what they're trying to do is admonish us into obedience.
That's right.
That's what they want us to be is policing.
Yes.
And so what I find very interesting about all this tone policy and Bernie Bros and all this bullshit, like people are being bullied.
In the meantime, how many countries are our troops in?
Right?
So they're all worried about people being aggressive with words online.
I get you.
Who cares?
Who cares?
You know, way to go, Crystal.
Way to go on this.
She's great.
Hey, I thought I'd give Bernie a call to get his reaction to the New York Times endorsing Elizabeth Warren and A.B. Klobuchar.
Hello, and welcome to I Don't Take Bullshit Lightly headquarters.
This is Bernie Sanders speaking.
How may I direct your bullshit call today and make it quick?
I have 30 more campaign stops to make in Iowa before lunch, including a bond raising for the LGBTQ Farmers Association of Dubuque.
Bernie, why did you apologize for Zephyr Teach Out?
Who?
One of your campaign surrogates, Zephyr Teach Out.
I don't think I don't think I know this person.
She introduced you at several of your town halls in New Hampshire.
She's a surrogate for your campaign.
Well, what is this reference to again?
You apologize to Biden because she called him corrupt.
Aren't you running against money corruption in politics?
Isn't taking money from credit card companies while passing laws in their favor?
The very definition of corruption?
Look, I think I respect Zephyr Teach out.
And I guess Zephyr Teach out is a friend of mine.
And I seriously don't know what the fuck to say right now.
Even Tom Brokaw called out Biden and his son's blatant conflicts of interest back in 2008.
I think I know the interview you're referring to, but I never paid much attention to it.
It's just it's too frustrating.
You mean the blatant disregard for ethics?
No, the way he swallows his consonants.
I couldn't understand the goddamn thing you said.
But getting money and corruption out of politics, that's your thing, Bernie.
Not so loud.
We just can't go calling liars corrupt just because they're corrupt liars.
I mean, he said your campaign doctored a video to make him look bad.
You know, the word doctor means to corrupt.
He's calling you and your campaign corrupt, Bernie.
Joe is a friend of mine.
I respect Joe.
And I can see how he might have assumed I took that tape and doctored it in my Betamax machine or something.
Come on, Bernie.
You don't know how to doctor a videotape.
They don't even use tape anymore.
It's all digital.
Did you what?
Well, of course it's possible to doctor Revere.
And yes, video doctoring is covered under my Medicare for all plans.
Only for the purpose of posting heartwarming memes about a cat making friends, you know, with an owl or some crap.
Look, has Joe Biden or his campaign threatened you in any way?
Of course not.
Joe Biden is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life.
Really?
That's right.
And after I hang up on your ass, I'm also going to apologize for you.
You're scared of him, aren't you?
Is that it?
No.
I respect Joe Biden.
Joe Biden is a you can tell me, Bernie.
Stop it.
I can't take it any longer.
Joe Biden scares you.
Yes.
Yes, I confess.
Joe Biden scares the living crap out of me.
Have you ever been alone with him?
I mean, really alone?
The man is some kind of satanic spengali.
What do you mean?
Oh, sorry, yes.
They keep magically refilling with blood like one of those inexhaustible bottles you got at the magic shop.
The hair plugs to nowhere and the hair sniffing.
He's like the amazing drinking bird bobbing up and down with the hair sniffing.
He just can't stop.
Of course he scares me.
Hey, what about the New York Times endorsements?
I respect the New York Times because they haven't endorsed the winner since Zachary Taylor.
Yeah.
And he only lasted two days because he sucked.
So you don't care about not getting the New York Times endorsement then?
No, their endorsements are about as effective as wearing a pussy hat.
I gotta go now.
This is a party line, and I could hear some perverted farmer on the other line jerking off in a corn maze.
Not in the corn, damn it.
You're ruining America's cereal.
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Hey, yo, dirtbank, is that you?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yes, it's me.
Good.
I need to talk with you concerning an important issue.
What is it?
The scourge of addition.
Addition?
Too many dirtbanks out there are suffering from addiction to drugs or whatnot.
Understand me?
You mean addiction?
Yeah, what's the fucking difference?
Well, the former involves mathematics, while the latter involves medical problems caused by the over-prescription of painkillers.
Whoa.
Looky what we got here.
I guess somebody went to finishing school while I was home smothering my grain ain't with a pillow and asleep for the social security checks.
I guess that makes you feel all adjudicated and shit.
Looking down on you hurt my feelings, you asshole.
You feel better now?
I didn't mean to hurt your feelings, Chris.
I'm sorry.
The important issue of which I'm concerned about the importance of this is this: addiction.
Addiction.
As you know, I'm still associated with Donald Trump's Commission on Dope Fiends, or whatever the fuck it's called.
What's it called again?
Dope fiends.
The Commission on Combating Drug Addiction and the Opioid Crisis.
Yeah, dope fiends and shit.
As you know, I lobby for a pharmaceuticals company.
What makes a better painkiller than your average everyday smack?
I'm happy to say my efforts have been very, very beneficial to patients.
How?
For starters, I got 800 grand in fees and stock options.
Okay.
There you go.
That makes me a lot less likely to curb stop some two-bit QPED on 42nd Street.
That's called trickling down to all those scumbags lying in the gutter.
Combrende.
What inspired you to take up the problem of addiction?
I experienced a personal trajectory.
A close associate of I dropped dead after combining Percocet with Pop Rocks.
He fell into a foamy coma and literally exploded before my very eyes.
Fucking sons were everywhere.
Disgusting.
I'm glad you're taking the time to help people.
And that's not all, Dogface.
Here is something I heretofore did not know about.
More and more Americans are becoming addicted to insulin.
Insulin?
On the streets, they call it humolog, novelin, traceba, whatever scumbag drug lingo you want to use.
It all comes down to one thing.
We are losing the war on insulin.
This is your brain on insulin.
And this is your brain without insulin.
Notice the difference.
Yeah, the brain without insulin is dead.
Are there any other health issues you're concerned about, Chris?
Too many poor people are addicted to food.
It's almost like they can't live without it.
Yeah.
If they went a few weeks without buying the shit, they'd have enough to pay off their student loans.
Even though that?
Huh?
That is a good point, Chris.
And that EpiPen shit.
I read where that two-bit hophead pusher Bertie Sanders took a load of drug addicts up to freaking Canada to score a bag of Epi.
That's right.
Kids are deliberately stealing nuts to get high on this shit.
So what's your solution to the problem, Chris?
What do you think?
Stop eating other people's nuts.
I'm pleased to have him with us today a very special guest.
He served 16 years in Congress, including a stint on the House Committee of Government Oversight, where he investigated the Sun Prime meltdown in 2000, 2008 financial collapse.
And he was also a candidate for the Democratic nomination in 2004 and 2008.
Welcome back to the show.
It's Dennis Kucinich.
Hi, Dennis.
Jimmy, thank you.
I appreciate this opportunity to talk with you at this important moment in our country, Jimmy.
Now, I don't want to bury the lead.
Now, we have a couple things to talk about, but you have, I did not know this, but you've endorsed Tulsi Gabbard for president.
Can you tell us why?
Well, yes.
Tulsi is forsquare against U.S. interventionism.
She is probably the one candidate in this race who has understands what Max Blumenthal was writing about when he wrote The Management of Savagery, about how the United States keeps, helps to create all of the people we term to be enemies.
And we really need a new direction.
I mean, she put out legislation a couple years ago about stop funding terrorists.
And Jimmy, on a personal note, when Tulsi first thought about running to Congress, she came to my office and asked me for help.
And to me, the minute I met her, I said, this is somebody who has tremendous potential.
And so not only did I help her in her first congressional race in Hawaii, but when she told me that she was going to run for president, I said, I'll be glad to support your candidacy.
And my wife and I were in New Hampshire a few days ago with Tulsi campaigning in Manchester and other areas too.
And the response she's getting is across the board, very, very positive.
And it's good to see that.
So now, the quote that you had about Tulsi, I liked, is that she didn't, well, here, let me see, I'll find it.
In the Rolling Stone article, it said he's anti-war to his core and not terribly interested in partisan politics, which he believes does violence to cognition.
Tell me what, tell me what that means.
What do you mean when you say that partisan politics does violence to cognition?
Well, the idea that you have to, you're a Democrat, you have to go lockstep with the Democrats, that the Democratic Party then becomes the font of all legitimacy and mercy and love, and the Republicans are just the opposite.
I mean, that's stupid.
And the Democratic Party, which I've been a member of for a long, long time, has demonstrated time and time again that it's just a pathetic mimicry of the Republicans, a corporate party, one head of a hydra-headed party or corporate system.
And to me, Tulsi's candidacy is so clearly away from where the Democrats as a party have gone astray.
And she's really reconnecting with the practical aspirations of people.
People are sick of war.
And here's a soldier saying it.
Here's someone who served.
Here's someone who is a leader, has been a military leader.
And to me, she represents the potential of America to break out of these wars, the lies that took us into war, to focus on what we've done to our troops by lying to get them into wars and to focus on taking the resources of America and bringing it back home for health care and education and safe cities and a clean environment.
We can do so much.
And Tulsi, to me, represents the potential of America.
And in this primary, I endorse her enthusiastically.
Well, what they quoted you in the Rolling Stone as saying was: she consistently demonstrated her capacity for independent thought.
Yes.
And she has the ability to look at things without being hampered by the desire to be blessed by the party.
So we're seeing that, right?
Because she's the only one who's really taking on queen of warmongers, Hillary Clinton, right?
And with the hashtag queen of warmongers.
And so I think that's the thing that people would like to see Bernie Sanders do more is take the glove off.
Like Trump went after the Republican Party.
He went right after Jeb Bush and said, you know, you guys wrecked this party, you wrecked this country, you lied us into a war.
And I remember all the pundits saying that he just killed his candidacy.
Well, of course, they were all wrong.
And of course, that's what people were thirsty for was a little bit of truth about these endless wars that we're in.
And Tulsi certainly is the one to tell those truths, right?
And you see what happens as soon as they do.
And she tells the truth, they smear as not being patriotic enough.
In fact, she might be even a traitor and working with outside forces.
So it's great to see.
Go ahead.
The point that you make, Jimmy, is so important because it's important to stand for the truth.
It's important to stand for principle.
One does not have to get into personalities because the truth has a personality all of its own.
And all we have to do is to say, look, there was no reason for us to go into Iraq.
Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11, had nothing to do with Al-Qaeda's role in 9-11.
It didn't have anything to do with the anthrax attack on our country.
Iraq didn't have the intention or capability of attacking the United States.
I did this analysis in October of 2002.
And, you know, the truth was known then for anyone who cared to listen.
Tulsi Gabbard knows the truth about what's going on in America.
And because of that, she really deserves people's support.
Now, I'm not taking anything away from any other candidate.
I am saying that in the primary, this is somebody who I believe aligns with at least what I stand for and the kind of America that I know is possible.
Yeah, so let's talk about it because, I mean, you are really tried to, you were really a vocal voice against the Iraq war.
You were for Congress taking back the power to go to war.
So tell us, do you see any parallels between then and now what's happening with Trump and Iran?
And, you know, three years of Russia gate by the Democrats.
And now finally, people are starting to say, hey, maybe we should start trying to rein in the power of the president, who they all say is working for a foreign leader anyway.
Well, first of all, let's separate some of these things.
What I have seen since 2000 is a series of regime change efforts that have been backed by both parties.
The attempt to, starting with Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Ukraine, Syria, and of course, the attempt to destabilize Russia.
And I'm just naming a few.
The fact of the matter is that America has to stop this empire building, these regime change wars, has to stop violating international law.
The world isn't ours to go and conquer and to kill whoever we want.
And so when a candidate comes forward, as Tulsi Gabbard does, and says, look, it's time to take a new direction.
And it really foresquare looks at foreign policies and the implication to our domestic policies.
The average family of four is paying, depending on how you gauge it, anywhere from, has paid anywhere from $80,000 to $150,000 throughout the term of the wars that we've had since 9-11.
And this whole war machine is sucking the economic vitality out of the American people.
And Tulsi is someone who stands not only against that, but stands for a different approach to international relations away from interventionism, away from this idea of America above all other nations.
We need to work with the world community.
It doesn't mean there's not danger out there, but we shouldn't create more danger.
Jimmy, just think of, we can't even foresee the danger that was created by the assassination of General Suleimani.
It is astonishing to see how Washington just starts to argue between the very narrow goalposts of Republicans and Democrats that, well, it's a question of the way he went about it, not a question of how does a president assume the authority to go and assassinate a foreign leader.
So, you know, these are questions that Congresswoman Gabbard has raised in her campaign.
And I think because of that, she deserves a lot of attention for her candidacy.
So you gave 341 speeches on the floor of Congress against the Iraq war, and you gave 155 speeches against a war with Iran.
And how was that greeted?
How was that welcomed or how was that received by your fellow Democrats at the time?
You know, initially, people would just look the other way because the thinking was, well, the party mentality, we're supporting the war.
It was pathetic.
And there were some occasionally people would come up to me and say, you know, you're right, and we know it, but, you know, this is what we have to do.
This lockstep approach to supporting war is destroying the country.
And so my feeling was when I, I didn't just give those speeches, Jimmy, I researched them.
My whole office was filled with thousands and thousands of pages and about 100 volumes of research.
I grabbed everything I could to find out: could it be true what they're saying?
And everything I looked at came back, they're lying.
And when you say that, and you have the media and others repeatedly saying, oh, no, you don't know what you're talking about.
You have the Pentagon, the CIA, and the State Department.
They wouldn't lie about this.
The people in the White House wouldn't lie about it.
And what do you know, Congressman?
But anyone who took the time to study what was happening would have come to, I think, a similar conclusion unless they were making money off the war.
And so now, years later, people can say, oh, yeah, everyone knew.
Everyone today knows it was wrong.
No, they didn't.
They went along, and the few of us who stood up and raised the issue were castigated at the time by the media.
And, you know, I know you have a journalism degree from a top school there, Jimmy.
So you can appreciate how the credibility of the media is sacrosanct.
And I really feel very happy that now the media has finally understood the tragedy of Iraq and so that it doesn't become the tragedy of Iran.
Well, I remember a million people in the streets protesting the Iraq war and all those journalists who went to those great journalism schools, they just couldn't see them.
I guess they had on special glasses and they couldn't see those protesters because they didn't show up in the mainstream news very much at all.
So yeah, you're right.
You know, when Hillary Clinton says she was tricked by George Bush and his intelligence, right?
I mean, you see, now, you know, comedians in their garage on YouTube can see through the intelligence of Libya, Iraq, Syria, and now Iran, okay?
So if the former first lady couldn't see through it back then, she was either unbelievably incompetent or lying.
So go ahead, Debbie.
Jimmy, think about this.
You know, I mean, I led the effort against the war in Iraq.
And so I was called a clown, a traitor, and worse.
And the people who were beating the drums for it, some in the media and some inside the government, they were hailed as great Americans and have never to this day been held to account for misleading this country, for causing the deaths of about 4,600 American men and women, for causing the deaths of perhaps over a million, a million innocent Iraqis.
I think about this, and it's heartbreaking to think of all the damage that our country did over in Iraq based on a lie.
And when I took articles of impeachment forward, 35 articles of impeachment to call President Bush to an accounting, the Democratic Party hierarchy didn't even want to hear about it.
No, they're involved in an impeachment right now.
But when it comes to war, to lying to take us into war, they don't want to hear about that.
Why?
Because we have a condition in America where the two parties are, again, two aspects of a war party.
And that redounds to great damage to the American people, to the aspirations for the future, for their children and themselves.
We have a crumbling infrastructure in America.
And we're blowing up bridges in other countries.
I know.
So don't you think that suppresses the vote?
When people see that, they see that you have endless money anytime.
Right.
They're giving Trump an extra $131 billion to go bomb countries at his behest.
And at the same time, they're saying he should be impeached for being a traitor.
And he's also doing things at the behest of Vladimir Putin.
So I think regular people like the biggest voting blocker is people who don't vote, right?
So I think that's who Tulsi is reaching.
And I think that's whoever wins needs to reach.
And don't you think that that suppresses the vote when they see both parties pouring endless money into war?
Meanwhile, they're saying we don't have any money for your college.
We don't have any money for your health care.
And we don't have any money to fix your broken roads and bridges.
Well, you're right about that.
And I'll tell you what, the way this works.
When Congress goes ahead and approved about an 800 billion, it's more than that because you have to throw in the intelligence agencies and all the other apparatus of war.
It no doubt goes over a trillion dollars.
When Congress does that and gives the president that kind of power, and then they turn around and say, well, we're going to impeach him for these other things, it borders on lunacy.
And at the same time, I think of the tremendous resources that are being wasted around the world by our country around the world, over about 800 bases in 71 different countries.
And when I started in Congress, for a split second, I was lulled into voting for a Pentagon bill the first couple months that I was in.
But after that, Jimmy, when I found out in a hearing that there was over a trillion dollars of accounts that the Pentagon couldn't reconcile, from that moment, I didn't vote for a single Pentagon budget from 1997 until the time I left the United States Congress in 2013, because I came to an understanding it was all a racket.
It was all a way to suck money out of the American people, to essentially steal from them, wave the flag, and then say we're doing it for America.
Nah, not a chance.
Yeah, it's a heist.
It's a griff.
But now you say that nobody was punished, all those people.
So you took it on the chin because you were telling the truth about the Iraq war.
And now Tulsi, the same way, takes it on the chin because she tells the truth about our current wars in Syria, Libya, Venezuela, wherever she's telling the truth about them.
But you say none of those people who were for the war ever got punished or even lost their TV shows, which is hilarious.
They're even advising President Trump.
That's right.
I mean, you look at the CLAC, which participated in advising him to go forward with his strike and the murder of General Suleimani.
Who are these people?
They can surface again and whisper in the ear of a president who doesn't have any experience in politics except for his term and doesn't really understand international relations, understands business, but they're just, you know, they told him, well, this is what you ought to do.
I'm sure that even at this point, he's got to be having some other thoughts about what he did because he opened up a Pandora's box, which may not be shut in our lifetime.
We don't know the blowback that can come.
I mean, this goes way beyond Sariavo and the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand.
And it was only, I think, luck that we ended up not being on the going past the threshold of World War III a couple weeks ago.
Well, you never know because even though we might be able to ratchet things down with Iran itself, the Shia world is still upset about this, and they will be launching attacks.
And of course, then whoever is in power, the administration, whether it be Republican or Democrat, will use that, those attacks, to provocate more war and spend even more money on bombs.
Absolutely.
And so that's how you know.
So you're right.
They're not impeaching Donald Trump on a genocide he's helping commit in Yemen or for illegal bombings or assassinations, with, by the way, President Ford made it illegal to assassinate.
So, and they're not, what they're impeaching Donald Trump on is because he put a pause in the military-industrial complex's flow of bombs into more conflict.
That's what they're upset about, that there was a temporary pause in more armaments going to more war.
And as if the president doesn't get to decide what our foreign policy is in the first place, he's the guy.
Anyway, so when you say no one was punished for the Iraq war, you don't think having to dance with Ellen on daytime TV is punishment?
Okay, all right.
All right.
So don't don't, so that's the thing I try to tell people.
Do you agree with my opinion that the Democratic Party did three years of Russia Gate and is now doing an impeachment because they really don't have anything to offer those 100 million people who didn't get off the couch and vote?
Because if they had something to offer them, they would be doing that instead of doing this.
And the reason why they're doing this, but at the same time, they're impeaching him, they just passed Trump's entire legislative agenda.
They just gave him his NAFTA 2.0.
They just gave him money for his border wall.
They helped him deregulate Wall Street.
They passed.
They gave him money for a new space force.
They gave him money for a space force.
So what does this say?
That's a long, long time ago in a galaxy far far away.
So tell me, what is this?
So what does this tell you about the Democratic Party and what we really need in politics right now?
What does it tell you?
You're talking to me?
Yeah.
Jimmy, look, there is something that needs to be looked at here in the way that you presented it.
And that is when you look at the 2016 election, which to me was decided with James Comey's gambit essentially declaring Hillary Clinton dishonest 11 days before the election.
I looked at the polls because I was following it for a network and I saw the polls in state after state start to go down.
And I thought, you know, Trump has a shot at this.
And so then after he wins, you know, inexplicably wins, what happens?
The Democrats have to come up with a reason why they lost.
They didn't want to blame their candidate who may have raised and spent as much as $2 billion.
They had to blame something else.
So right away, Russia, and they started this drumbeat of Russia Gate.
Were there Russians who were involved in social media spending $100,000 or something screwing around in the election?
I suppose.
But was the state of Russia putting its big foot onto this election?
That really hasn't been proven.
And yet it has received wisdom within the Democratic Party.
It is an article of faith.
And to me, it's nuts.
And so what's happened is we now have this diversion that's occurred with RussiaGate.
And then you go to the next diversion.
Look, I don't hold any sympathy for a president who doesn't observe common notions of not just notions, who doesn't observe the law in all regards.
But let's face it, 35 articles of impeachment against Bush.
One of the Democratic leaders got to the floor and said, I moved that this be sent to committee.
And yet these articles that are currently being presented to the Senate right now raises a whole, you know, puts a whole new threshold of impeachment that someone can go after a president for many more things other than and it's a reinterpretation of the high crimes and misdemeanors requirement and lowers the bar for impeachment.
And you know what else it does, Jimmy, that very few Democrats are talking about?
It sets the stage for Republican turnabout against Joe Biden.
And, you know, this thing isn't going to be over.
It's, you know, one of the biggest problems with our politics today is people don't see any connection between cause and effect and anything.
Everything occurs de novo.
It's like Chauncey Gardner or something being there.
I mean, so that's kind of been the point of this show since the 2016 election.
And what I rail against is the Hollywood mentality because that's the world.
That's the world I live in.
And those are the people I know.
And the Hollywood Democratic mentality is that corruption started January 2017.
And it drives me nuts because, well, how do you think people got so desperate in this country that they were willing to vote for a game show host over the most well-money campaign in the history of our country?
Why do you think that happened?
What do you think Barack Obama didn't do that made Hillary Clinton lose to Donald Trump?
They'll never ask themselves those questions because if they did, the answers would be he discontinued the Bush administration's policies and he put a big hurt on people.
He kicked 5.1 million people out of their houses while he made the banks whole and made sure they never missed a bonus, right?
He opened the Arctic to drilling twice whenever Shell asked them.
He took us from two wars to seven.
He let cops crack the head of peaceful protesters at Wall Street from coast to coast.
He said we're going to let it play out up at Dapple.
That's why we have fracking pipes underneath this country because he released those laws that said we can't export fossil fuel.
I mean, it is unbelievable the corruption.
The reason why we don't have a functioning banking system or a functioning health care system is because Barack Obama was paid off by the health care system and he's paid off by the banks.
That's why we don't have either of those things.
And people have no idea.
They think Barack Obama is Santa Claus.
And I'm here to tell them Santa Claus is an asshole because that, after eight years of him, people in Flint wouldn't come out to vote for his handbook successor.
And they voted for Donald Trump instead.
In fact, in Flint, Michigan, where Barack Obama flew in, took a sip of water and left and did nothing for those people.
8,000 fewer black people voted in Flint, Michigan for Hillary Clinton that voted for Barack Obama.
She lost that state by what, 17,000 votes?
In Flint, Michigan alone, they had 8,000 fewer voters for Hillary Clinton.
That is a direct cause and effect from Barack Obama's lack of helping those people.
He didn't even give them health care on the way out the door.
So that's what I rail against at this show is that corruption didn't start on January 2017.
That is a symptom of the corruption that has been bipartisan, and it's a war machine that owns both parties.
Okay, I'll throw it to you.
I'll stop talking.
You know, Jimmy, as you're speaking, I'm thinking about the musical, both the film and the stage musical of Chicago and that song.
Give them the old razzle dazzle, razzle-dazzle them.
How can they see with sequins in their eyes?
You know, people were dazzled and razzled, and the next thing they knew, they're out of their homes.
So Wall Street got a bailout.
The pharmaceutical companies and the insurance companies made out like bandits.
And, you know, and God bless America.
So here we are.
Yeah.
And so, again, that's, you know, Tulsi Gabbard has her finger on the pulse of what's wrong with this country.
She's the one saying our foreign policy is our domestic policy.
She's making the connection between dirty water and Flint and $4 billion a month being spent in Afghanistan.
She's really the only person doing that, which is why it's so important she's in the race.
You know, we all want a progressive to win.
We all want to beat Donald Trump.
But if we just get another Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton or Joe Biden in there, the next Trump will be even worse because people are hurting.
And don't you think, Dennis, even if we get a progressive, even if Tulsi becomes president or Bernie Sanders, which it looks like, do you think we'll be able to get Medicare for all free college, a functioning banking system, and end these wars without people getting in the street and shutting capitalism down?
Well, you know, from a practical standpoint, there is a structure that exists to bring about these changes that we want.
But you have to have a Congress cooperating with the president.
You go back to 1932.
The election of 1932 is a watershed moment in the United States because not only did Franklin Roosevelt win, but he brought in a Democratic Congress.
And the Democratic majorities started to become strengthened through his presidency based on what he stood for.
So is it possible to have Medicare for all?
Yes, you have to have the votes, but you'll just have to, we will have to turn in 2024 if we are able to get a progressive president.
And in 2024, we will need to have numbers turn out for a progressive House and a progressive Senate.
So this, yeah, this present system can work, but only if people stop being distracted by the politics of the moment, which are all based on polarization, which are almost like, you know, are you for Pepsi or Coca-Cola?
You know, it's said that if you drink enough of either, you can rot your teeth.
But, you know, I think that we have to insist that the Democratic Party begin to reclaim its historic mission that was outlined during the early years of FDR, to be able to lift people up, to be able to make sure people have a roof over their head, be able to make sure they have retirement security, to take care of the health of people, to make sure that they're good schools, to work on conserving our land.
I mean, these are all things that derive from the New Deal meant psychology and from New Deal programs.
We have to have that ready.
And the other thing is we have to stop the interventionism.
Yes, Roosevelt, later on, 10 years later, we were on the threshold of a big war, and historians can argue that.
But right now, we're in two decades of war.
And the wars show no end in sight.
We were told over and over again, you know, candidates running, we'll end the war, end the war.
And it's all the same.
That's why I think it's important for the voters out there to engage every Democratic candidate who's out there and see where they stand on the international issues.
Because if you don't get them on the international issues, you then don't have a chance to make the connection between the trillions of dollars of waste that have occurred from our involvement in these woeful, misbegotten wars and the actual impact on the domestic budget.
And so the voters, you who are watching, you're the ones that have to hold these candidates out there to an accounting and make sure they don't double talk this.
Are you for interventionism or aren't you?
Are you going to get out of these countries?
What will you do to avoid a war with Iran and other countries?
Or, you know, how are you, what is your, what is your philosophical approach?
Is it peace through strength and a military buildup?
Or is it strength through peace and diplomacy?
I mean, not the coercive diplomacy that Secretary Clinton has talked about, but real diplomacy where you seek to avert war instead of starting it.
So we really are at a Rubicon here.
And if we're crossing it, we ought to cross it in the direction of peace, not in the direction of more war.
Well, I appreciate it.
And my final question before we let you go, I just want to know, what do you say to the people who say that somehow, I hear this a lot, somehow Tulsi is actually secretly for war.
That she's because she's for drone bombing and she's for the war on terrorism and she's for the, it's just weird how they can turn it on their head.
The only person, politician in the entire country talking about ending our regime change wars, in fact, going on television and teaching the term regime change wars to journalists.
And somehow that person is also secretly pro-war.
What do you say to that criticism?
Well, look, you know, I'm someone who led the effort against just about every single intervention that occurred during my time in Congress and in two presidential campaigns brought to the American people the possibility that we could take a new direction away from war.
And remember, you know, what, a couple of weeks ago, we're told that the government was lying to the American people all the time about Afghanistan, where we still are.
Tulsi Gabbard is the one candidate who has the capacity in these primaries to see through the lies, who has spoken of them, who has taken, who will take us in a new direction.
Is she perfect?
There's no candidate perfect.
I wasn't perfect.
But does she have the capacity and the courage to take us in a new direction and away from interventionism?
So we only use those troops that we love and revere when they're really needed to defend this country.
Tulsi's the person that I think is the one for the primary.
And then, you know, we'll see what happens.
But that's why I support her, Jimmy.
That's why Elizabeth and I were excited to go to New Hampshire for her.
And anybody's watching in New Hampshire, that's the campaign.
You could send a message to the rest of the country that you're done with the wars.
You're done with the lives.
You're done with both parties caving in and going along with more military buildups.
All right.
Dennis Kucinich, endorsing Tulsi Gabbard.
I appreciate you coming on.
I appreciate your anti-war stance.
I appreciate you sticking your chin out for peace and for truth.
So thanks very much and for coming.
Hey, by the way, did you know you're in a Nellie Mackay song?
I am.
Yeah, okay.
So you didn't know.
Okay.
I just want to say that.
Are you going to play it?
No, I don't have it queued up.
It's copywritten, so I couldn't play it anyway.
I'll send it to you.
I'll send it to you.
How about that?
Yeah, I'd like to hear it.
I mean, I know that I was in an Eminem song a few years ago.
So, you know, wow.
All right.
That's really wild.
Okay, Dennis Kucinich, thank you very much.
Thanks for being here.
Thank you, Jimmy.
Bye-bye.
Thank you.
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