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	Get ready for an outstanding entertainment program.
	The Jimmy Dore Show.
	Hey, I'm calling up Bernie Sanders because the latest Gallup poll shows him topping Democratic voters lists of the most liked candidates for 2020.
	So hello.
	Who the fuck is this?
	It's Jimmy Dore, Bernie.
	I called you last week.
	It was a rhetorical question, Skippy.
	Not unlike what the hey?
	Or the five W's of journalism.
	Who the fuck is it?
	Where the fuck is it?
	When the fuck is it?
	Why the fuck is it?
	And what the fuck is it?
	Hey, look, did I catch you at a bad time?
	Is there a better time I can call you?
	Yes, when you're upside down in a Studebaker at the bottom of a ravine.
	Bernie, why are you always so grumpy?
	I'm not grumpy, nor am I yelling.
	I want you to take note of that because I know a lot of you cornflakes get very sensitive when a politician who's walked the walk his whole goddamn life might actually get passionate about our impending extinction and the world coming to an end.
	There.
	I didn't raise my voice once during that exchange.
	Are you happy?
	I also want you to know you're on my list of people whose hatred I welcome.
	But why?
	Because I've had it.
	We've got less than 10 years to do something drastic about the world coming to an end, and you and Graham Elwood are busy getting free nachos and drink tickets and every yuck yucks and giggles from freaking Lodi to Stockton.
	Did you see what they said about you on MSNBC the other day?
	That I don't attract the same ratings as Donald Trump's empty podium.
	I take some solace in the fact that 90% of their audience is strapped to gurneys waiting for the next Cathedral commercial.
	By the way, I welcome the hatred of the Cathedral industry.
	Well, ex-prosecutor Mimi Roka said you've made her skin crawl because she sees you as, quote, not pro-women.
	What the fuck is that supposed to mean?
	Hello?
	Anyone there?
	I thought that was a rhetorical question.
	No, I asked sincerely.
	You know what's not pro-woman?
	Any ex-prosecutor who refused to prosecute Wall Street for ruining the lives of millions of people during the financial crisis, I'm adding her to my list of people whose hatred I welcome.
	As a matter of fact, there are so many whose hatred I welcome.
	I have a list of my welcome hatred lists.
	Nicely cross-referenced and what have you.
	Who's on your list of lists?
	Two categories, golfers and people who own horses.
	I welcome their dressage and mashy nibbling hatred.
	When you say welcome their hatred, does that also mean you hate them?
	Of course not.
	My doormat says welcome hatred.
	But that doesn't mean I want to have a beer with hatred at the White House.
	I welcome hate's hate while hating hate is complicated.
	You know what else I don't hate?
	No, what?
	this.
	The Jimmy Dore Show.
	The show for...
	The kind of people that are...
	It's the show that makes Anderson Cooper say...
	It's hard to talk when you're keybagging.
	And now, here's a guy who sounds a lot like me.
	It's Jimmy Dore.
	Hey, everybody, welcome to this week's Jimmy Door show.
	We will see you next Friday, August 2nd, in Burbank, California at Flappers for a live Jimmy Door show.
	Then we go to Denver, San Francisco, Baltimore, and Seattle.
	And Honolulu for Christmas.
	Go to JimmyDoorComedy.com for a link for all of our live show dates.
	Okay, we're going to skip the jokes before we get to the jokes.
	What's coming up on today's show?
	Robert Mueller, the independent counsel investigating Russia Gate, gave his testimony to Congress, and it was kind of a meltdown.
	We're going to talk about it with Erin Matei, the award-winning Russia Gate debunker from Nation Magazine and the Gray Zone on today's show.
	Plus, what happens when you bring a female centrist Democrat who works for a law school on MSNBC?
	Well, she makes a sexist attack at Bernie Sanders that has absolutely no substance, and she's heralded by MSNBC and the Hillary voters.
	We're going to talk about that.
	Plus, we got phone calls today from Mitt Romney, Bernie Sanders, and Chucky the Shoe, the master of the Senate, plus a lot lot more.
	That's today on the Jimmy Door show.
	So reporters have been asking Mitt Romney whether or not he thinks Donald Trump's recent tweets about the squad are racist, but he refuses to answer.
	So I thought maybe I'd clear things up a little bit, and I'll call Mitt Romney.
	You've reached the office of Senator Mitt Mittens Romney.
	Prepared to get Romney.
	Hello.
	Hey, Mitt, why don't you call President Trump's tweets racists?
	Oh, hi, Jimmy.
	Say, did you know hot dog is still my favorite meat?
	That's right.
	My favorite meat is hot dog.
	Always has been and always will be.
	Guess what my second favorite meat is?
	What?
	My second favorite meat is meat.
	You're supposed to be the new Republican Maverick, Mitt.
	So why can't you just call Donald Trump a racist for a Maverick?
	Because it's National Hot Dog Day, Jimmy.
	Come on.
	What's that got to do with anything?
	It's my favorite meat.
	We know that.
	Guess what my third favorite meat is?
	I'm going to say what?
	Ice cream.
	Ice cream isn't a meat, Mitt.
	It is when you put a hot dog in it.
	Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
	Look, everyone wants to know why you can't call Donald Trump a racist.
	Why can't you, Jimmy?
	I have.
	I'm glad we cleared that up.
	Now, what's your favorite meat?
	And if it's not hot dog, I don't want to hear it.
	I mean, at least you can call his tweets racist, right?
	As you know, hot dog is my favorite meat.
	I just had one sliced in half with some pickles, onions, and ketchup, which is the way I prefer it.
	And that's ketchup, spelled with a K, not ketchup, spelled with a C-A.
	Oh.
	Which is how the homos spell it.
	Mitt.
	Okay, but what about Trump's tweets?
	I'm sorry, I couldn't help myself.
	What about them, Jimmy?
	Look, don't we have more important issues facing our country than some racist tweets?
	Of course we do, but wait.
	So you do think they're racist?
	Only to the people who want me to say that.
	Otherwise, I never said that.
	I said something much more vague, like he went over the line or some shit like that.
	And what does he went over the line mean?
	Just that.
	There are lines, and sometimes people go over them.
	No value judgment there.
	Unless you want to interpret it that way.
	Going over the line is a lot like going over the top, only it's a line and not a top.
	Kind of like how hot dog and meat are meat, unless you want meat to be something different, like chicken, and hot dog to be something like rat feces and insect parts, Which it is.
	So telling congresswomen of color they should go back to their so-called countries of origin, it's racist, isn't it?
	Well, Jimmy, I guess it depends on which countries we're talking about here now, Dustin.
	Like, let's say we're talking about the 17th century British colonies, right?
	Then you'd be telling them to go back to Britain, which really is their country.
	Got you there, you big a-hole.
	So you're never going to answer this question, are you?
	Happy hot dog day is my favorite meat day.
	You've just been romneyed.
	All right.
	You know, Bernie Sanders gets a lot of guff.
	I have no idea why people who consider themselves lefties hate him so much.
	I think I do.
	I think it's because they blame Hillary's loss on him and the fact that we have Trump on him.
	And it's irrational.
	It's completely irrational.
	They're not upset at the 40 years of neoliberal corporatism that has effed over people and made them so desperate that they would vote for a game show host clown billionaire as if he's going to look out for them.
	That's what I would be, but they're not.
	They can't do that.
	They can't allow themselves to actually look at the real problem.
	And here's one of those people.
	Her name is Mimi Roka.
	She's a former federal prosecutor, and now she's a criminal justice fellow at the Pace Law School.
	And she's an NBC and MSNBC legal analyst.
	I mean, she's getting a check from them to be a legal analyst.
	Why is that funny?
	Well, let's watch her substance-free critique of Bernie Sanders.
	And just imagine her saying this about anyone else.
	And imagine and try to imagine a man saying this about a woman.
	And watch this.
	Sanders and Elizabeth Warren next to each other will really highlight because for me, as you know, again, I'm not the political analyst here, but just as a woman, probably considered a somewhat moderate Democrat.
	Bernie Sanders makes my skin crawl.
	And I can't even identify for you what exactly it is.
	But I, but when I'm drinking wine with my friends, we all just say this and nobody ever pushes back.
	This is exactly like Barry Weiss.
	And, oh, Tulsi Gabbard is, she's the motherload of bad ideas.
	She's a toady.
	What's a toady mean?
	I don't know.
	Why does Bernie Sanders make your skin crawl?
	You're on television.
	I don't know why.
	Can't tell you.
	And that's a grown-up person.
	That's a grown-up.
	So what is it?
	What is she a victim of unbelievably bad parenting that she would grow up like this?
	But how would she be able to, oh, that's right.
	She works for MSNBC.
	Well, let's play the rest of it and just watch how ridiculous this is.
	I see him as sort of a not pro-woman candidate.
	And so having the two of them there, like, I don't understand young women who support him.
	And I'm hoping that having him next to her will help highlight that because those are the people.
	No, just imagine, just imagine.
	Just imagine me going, or a male on MSNBC panel saying, I don't understand why men are supporting Elizabeth Warren.
	I don't know why men would support a woman like that.
	Can you imagine saying that?
	By the way, Bernie's out-polling Elizabeth Warren with women.
	Bernie does better with women than Elizabeth Warren.
	FYI.
	So this is a certain kind of derangement.
	This is like neurosis.
	Because this, again, she can't even tell you why she feels that way.
	She admitted it.
	She goes, I can't even tell you why I feel that way.
	So there's lots of, let's watch how it ends.
	If I were her, I would want to say, why are you supporting him and not me if you're going to choose between the two of us?
	We'll leave it there, Quebec, just a moment.
	Mike Bemley.
	We're going to leave it there.
	We're going to leave it there.
	We're going to leave a substance-free smear, a sexist smear.
	That's what that is.
	That's a sexist smear.
	So that woman, this woman.
	Mimi?
	Mimi.
	Mimi Roach.
	What is she doing there?
	Is a sexist war next to each other?
	Because she can't tell you why she doesn't like him, and she can't even tell you why he's not pro-women, woman, because he is pro-woman.
	And here's what Carrie Dobson says.
	Please keep telling me that Fox News is horrible.
	Fox is like a Republican.
	There is no hidden stuff there.
	You know what you're going to disagree on.
	MSNBC pretends to be progressive, but they are extremely hostile to Bernie and Tulsi because they are a threat to corporations and the rich.
	And that's why that woman is allowed to go on there and say that stuff.
	That's why she's, I mean, if you had a student say that, you give him an F. She's paid to go on MSNBC, which remember fired Phil Downey for telling the truth about war and then fired Ed Schultz just for covering Bernie.
	She's paid to go on and say this guy makes my skin crawl.
	Why would woman vote for this guy?
	And why?
	I can't tell you why.
	But I work at Pace Law School and I'm a paid legal analyst.
	Here's what I like.
	Chuck Modi says, no candidate has stood up stronger for Ilhan Omar than Bernie.
	Is she not a woman?
	Nina Turner comes in hell low.
	Is Nina Turner not a woman?
	Yes.
	So I like this.
	She says, folks, this nasty woman's name is Mimi Roka.
	Her evil hatred for Bernie is just as bad as Trump's hate.
	Bernie is a champion of women.
	Bernie is a Democratic socialist who cares about people, not money.
	What makes my skin crawl?
	Moderate, money-hungry, neoliberal Democrats on MSNBC.
	Let's face it, Bernie could jump on a live grenade to save a park full of children, and people like Mimi Roka would complain that he got his guts all over their $1,000 pantsuits.
	That's pretty good.
	That's pretty well.
	That's well done.
	Who said that?
	Who said that?
	That's the other Colin Quinn or other Colin Green.
	I don't even know who the first one is.
	I know, Nina.
	Bad John Brown says, I don't think her irrational reason for hating Bernie is because he's Jewish.
	I think, like many, she's irrationally hates him because Hillary lost to an ignorant racist a-hole.
	And since they don't want to blame Hillary for that, they externalize and put all the blame on Bernie.
	Now, that makes sense, right, Steph?
	Do you hear that?
	You know, did you hear that?
	Yeah, I did.
	Did you?
	Yeah, I did.
	I just, I, you know, when I, when I was reading about Mimi Roka, I, you know, somebody who's educated like this.
	So what's in it for her?
	So do you think that's why?
	Do you think that's what it is?
	Ron, do you think that's what it is?
	I don't think she even has a reason.
	I think it's just like she doesn't know.
	And that's why it's unbelievable that that's even passed on as news.
	Like, can you imagine this in a different genre of programming?
	Like, imagine you turn on ESPN and they're talking about baseball.
	They're like, we're going to go to this person.
	And that person's like, I don't know anything about baseball.
	I don't really follow baseball.
	I'm not a baseball person here.
	But I can't stand The Chicago Cubs.
	Something about them makes my skin crawl.
	I don't know why, but I just hate them.
	But you know what, Jimmy, as I was reading, a lot of people were saying that this is, she's anti-Semitic.
	And for her to say, he makes my skin crawl and gives, and I don't know why.
	I don't know.
	Is that a dog whistle kind of thing for her to say that?
	No, that's not a dog whistle.
	A dog whistle would be saying something like, saying Bernie makes my skin crawl is not a dog whistle.
	Okay.
	That's not, that's the opposite because I tweeted it out and said, just like Trump, MSNBC has dropped the dog whistles and they're just blatantly smearing Bernie in a sexist way for no reason.
	That's a sexist smear thing because he's a fucking guy.
	And we saw it happen on MSNBC before when that woman who was a comedian came on and said, we don't need another white, disheveled old white guy to come out.
	And again, substance-free, he's white and he's a guy.
	And she also threw in an ageist thing that he's old.
	And you couldn't, and I don't want the conversations to go that way towards a female.
	You know, like all these things like you keep pointing out.
	If we flip it and we say this is somebody saying, oh, you know, Elizabeth Warren, she makes my skin crawl.
	I can't tell you why.
	I can't tell you why.
	She grosses me out.
	I can't tell you why.
	Such a level.
	I can't tell you why.
	It's very It's very, that's what I want to know.
	Well, I don't know if she's from Harvard.
	Yes, she is.
	Is Pace?
	Is that Harvard?
	Well, no, I just know she studied.
	Oh, she's went to Harvard.
	Oh, okay.
	So here's something else.
	This is the Opinionated Lab says, by accurately stating Clinton's record, it is clear you hate women.
	That's every centrist since 2015.
	So that's what that's, it has to be this, that Hillary lost to an ignorant racist.
	And since they don't want to blame Hillary for that, they externalize and put that blame on Bernie.
	And it's all irrational.
	It's all irrational.
	Sanders makes my skin crawl, and I don't even know why.
	And the woman sitting next, by the way, is also sitting next to her is the woman who's the progressive.
	She's the program director for the progressive news channel.
	Wow.
	I'm Sirius XML.
	And she's been caught literally lying about Bernie time and time again.
	She lied about that he didn't, you know, and she's in support of Hillary.
	And then when she gets called out on it, she just doubles down and ignores it.
	We've done stories on her.
	I don't know.
	I don't listen to Sirius XM.
	I don't have it in my car, but I can't imagine how horrible their progressive news channel is.
	It's got to be fucking horrible.
	I just listen to music stuff, so I couldn't help you.
	It's got to be.
	It's got to be a bunch of fucking centrists, goddamn Pod Save America motherfuckers.
	They're telling you you can't have Medicare for all and that Bernie Sanders should make your skin crawl, but we can't tell you why.
	And so that's sitting right next to her.
	So this person says, I'm sorry, Seven.
	No worries, no worries.
	So this person says, which is kind of funny.
	Zerlina sitting there nodding.
	These centrists make my skin crawl.
	And I do know why.
	What kind of a comfortable privilege makes you hate a man who has fought for the poor and working classes all his life?
	Done with the Democrats forever.
	I'd like Nina Turner to be seated beside that woman by Rocock.
	They don't, yeah.
	Anywhere you see Zerlina Maxwell, you can know by default it's a propagandistic shit show.
	She collects checks directly from David Brock.
	They're in concuts with David Brock over at their progressive.
	Did you know this?
	Yeah, that's that bad.
	They're joining forces.
	She collects checks directly from David Brock.
	Also, MSNBC is the collaborator network.
	Never shock when they scrape the bottom of the barrel.
	Gloria Steinem pronouncing Bernie Sanders an honorary woman.
	That's how pro-woman Bernie Sanders has been his whole life.
	I'm only here today to make Bernie Sanders an honorary woman.
	Talk about women's rights.
	It means to me, very importantly, economic rights, the right to earn a good living to figure out.
	Like women elect earning less than 60% of what men do.
	Women make 79 cents on the dollar compared to vendors.
	They want the whole damn dollar.
	They're right.
	Of the women in the United States who found full-time jobs were earning the poverty wage.
	Same with the women of this country demanding to a mother with two kids, well, you have to get off of welfare, even though there is no job.
	There is no transportation to get to the job.
	There is no childcare to take care of that child.
	Families are spending outrageous percentages of their incomes to send it to the decent thing.
	The United States government must provide at least 12 weeks of paid family and medical leave.
	You know that child care workers in many instances are paid less than McDonald's workers.
	Their work is as important or more important than college professors.
	These volunteers, most of whom are women, are doing an extraordinary job in counseling and supporting the victims of domestic violence, but they need help.
	I have a 100% lifetime pro-choice voting record.
	But when it comes to the women's rights and the right of women to make the difficult decision with regard to an abortion, ah, in that case, my Republican colleagues love the government and want the government to make that choice for every woman in America.
	You're not going to cut or defund Planned Parenthood.
	You're going to put more money into Planned Parenthood.
	Okay, so there you go.
	He can go on and on and on and on and on and on.
	That's what annoys me about Bernie.
	He just always says the same stuff.
	He's consistent.
	So annoying.
	Do you remember that?
	Like someone.
	Yes.
	I think it was like Marcos.
	Yes, that was that guy.
	He just keeps saying the same thing for 40 years.
	He stood on the same principles.
	Boring.
	Talk about mental gymnastics to try to slam a guy.
	I've been a victim of that.
	It's funny to watch.
	It's funny to watch.
	I mean, what an unbelievable, ridiculous thing.
	But now, there's no shame.
	Like, no, if I went on television or anywhere and I said something that stupid, which there's a good chance I could, or already have, I would, I feel shame when people point out that I did stupid something stupid.
	I feel badly.
	They have no conscience.
	They have the shame mechanism has been removed from their brains, people like the Daily Coast guy.
	No shame mechanism.
	I don't know how they were raised.
	I don't know what their parents didn't do to them.
	But they don't feel shame when they do, when he goes on a national television show and says something as ridiculous as that about Bernie Sanders.
	That woman doesn't feel bad on MSNBC.
	You know what she does?
	She blocks you if you point it out to her that she's An idiot.
	She'll block you on Twitter.
	And let's remember the MSNBC sucks.
	They fired Ed Schultz for even covering Bernie Sanders.
	So if you get a chance to go on MSNBC, you should probably bring that up.
	Because I know I would, which is why they'll never ever fucking have me on MSNBC, which suits me just fine, by the way.
	We can never have you.
	We don't even know why.
	They fired Ed Schultz for covering Bernie Sanders.
	They fired Ed Schultz for covering Bernie Sanders.
	You're going to go on that show and cover politics on that network, and you're not going to fucking bring that up.
	Cowards.
	So let's remember the mainstream news media.
	They're not your friend.
	Chris Hayes, Rachel Maddow, fake tough guy Lawrence O'Donnell, Chris Matthews.
	They're not working in your interest.
	They're there to forward the interests of the goddamn corporate state that they are the fucking well-paid puppets of.
	So there you go.
	That's if you, as if you needed more proof of how what a cesspool, what a swamp of bullshit.
	And you go ahead and tell me how, go tell me how MSNBC, go, Elizabeth Warren, you tell me how MSNBC does the right thing, how MSNBC is their fair players.
	And that's why you're not going to go on how it's the other news networks that sow hate and disinformation.
	They're nothing but evidence-free fucking conspiracy theorists who make sure they don't tell you the truth about war or progressive politicians.
	Because if they do, their ass will be fired.
	If Chris Hayes had any balls, he would have been fired fucking years ago, but he doesn't.
	He's a nutless fucking wonder.
	Hi, this is Jimmy.
	Who is this?
	Jimmy, it's Chuck Schumer.
	Ah, Senator Schumer, how are you?
	I am well.
	Thank you for asking.
	I'm calling to talk about my request to the FBI to investigate the popular app known as Face App.
	FaceApp?
	You know that thing that people do that makes them look older?
	Oh, yeah, yeah, I know that.
	Well, why are you having that investigated?
	I think Russians may be using it to spy on Americans.
	Oh, brother.
	Now, look, Jimmy, I'm not some out-of-touch old fuddy duddy here.
	I know about apps and things.
	Okay.
	I'm familiar with Lizzo.
	Jimmy, do you know Lizzo?
	I think I know who that is.
	She has that song, Juice.
	She has that song, Juice.
	Have you heard Juice, Jimmy?
	I believe so, yes.
	That track really slaps.
	Lizzo's amazing.
	She plays the flute, sort of, and then she flaps her buttocks around at people.
	It's very empowering for everybody.
	I see.
	So that's what I'm into.
	I know what's going on.
	Sure, Chuck.
	But these apps, I have a bad feeling about these things.
	They've always bothered me.
	Really?
	Yes, these Snapchats and WhatsApps, they drive me bananas.
	They have all these doodads and ding-a-lings in them.
	These, these, these, what do you call them?
	Filters.
	They have these filters.
	Yeah.
	That change your picture.
	The young members of my staff, they ask for a selfie with me, and then they do a filter that gives us the features of cats.
	It makes us cats.
	And I say, stop it.
	Don't make me a cat.
	It's shameful.
	I'm a human being, goddammit.
	Okay.
	It can make you dogs or cows or sheep.
	That's the first step towards dehumanization to slowly make us think that we're no better than the beasts of the field.
	That's what the Russians are trying to do to us.
	Do you really think that?
	Well, who knows what they're up to over there?
	Look at just today, Robert Mueller, right?
	We know they're still up to Nixies over there in Russia, those Weisenheimers.
	They're still giving us the business with their cyber whatnots.
	This really sounds like you are needlessly propagating this Russia hysteria that's been so costly and distracting.
	Thank you.
	I appreciate that.
	And why, of all the apps, does FaceApp warn an investigation, Chuck?
	Because that's a good question.
	Because that one is actually from Russia.
	A Russian invented it.
	So?
	Hello, did you hear me?
	Russia.
	So Russia's not allowed to have a tech industry.
	They can't invent apps?
	I would prefer it if they did not.
	Look, I don't know for sure that this is a data harvesting scheme.
	That's why I asked the FBI to launch an investigation.
	What could possibly go wrong?
	Well, fuck.
	Get the hell out of here with that basket of rotten apples.
	Who needs it?
	Some of us pay tens of thousands of dollars to doctors and technicians and various necromancers so that we never see ourselves old.
	I see.
	I want my face to match my young at-heartedness, you understand.
	Okay, Chuck.
	All right.
	Anyway, I have to go.
	I hope I've cleared everything up for you.
	Gonna do young, hip, young people things.
	Listen to rap music and nod my head rhythmically and approvingly.
	Gonna go have some avocado toast.
	Then I'm gonna roll my eyes at an avocado toast reference.
	Let me just go real quick before we get to Aaron.
	Hi, Aaron.
	Thanks for being with us.
	Of course, Aaron's the foremost leading reporter on Russia Gate.
	And as far as telling you the truth about it and debunking it, he won an award for it.
	Mueller's hearing present make or break moment for Democrats.
	That was the headline in the New York Times.
	Make or break moment.
	For two years, Democrats have waited on Robert Mueller to deliver a death blow to the Trump presidency.
	Wednesday's hearings with the special counsel could be their last chance.
	Here's what Rachel Drattz said.
	I don't know if you saw this there, but I thought this was interesting.
	He said, the act of looking forward to the Mueller hearings as if anything will come of it feels like having lunch with an ex that you are hoping to get back together with.
	First of all, everyone's in agreement that it was a debacle for Mueller.
	So I show Lawrence Tribe leading Russia Gator.
	He says, much as I hate to say it, this morning's hearing was a disaster.
	Far from breathing life into his damning report, the tired Robert Mueller sucked the life out of it.
	The effort to save democracy and the rule of law from this lawless president has been set back, not advanced.
	I love how the democracy and the rule of law just got fucked up the last two years.
	It was just the last two years it got been messed.
	It's been perfect up until then.
	Even though we now have war criminals dancing with Ellen on daytime television and everyone cheers them and Barack Obama says he's a brother from another mother and everybody still hate Ralph Nader, but they still love war criminal George Bush.
	Just keep that in mind.
	So corruption again just started.
	So Lawrence Tribe is one of those guys who tells you that corruption just started in January 2017.
	And so let's bring in Aaron right now.
	So hi, Aaron.
	How are you?
	Hey, Jimmy.
	How you doing?
	So you saw it.
	You watched it.
	Let me show you what David Axelrod said.
	He goes, this is very painful.
	Did you see that, Aaron, when he tweeted this out?
	This is very painful.
	Give me your recap.
	What did you think?
	You saw it.
	What was your overall take?
	I think today underscored why people like you and me, Jimmy, have been warning from the start that this thing was baseless.
	There was no evidence of a Trump-Russia conspiracy.
	And that putting our faith in Robert Mueller to validate it and be the savior figure was moronic and a massive political gift to Donald Trump.
	And, you know, Robert Mueller put that on display today.
	Adam Schiff had said beforehand that he wanted Mueller to bring the report to life.
	Well, Mueller did because the report is a dud, and today it was a massive dud.
	Mueller seemed unaware of key contents of his report.
	NBC News did a tracker, and they said that Mueller deflected or declined to answer 198 times.
	And he claimed so often that even things that were inside the scope of his report were now no longer in his purview.
	So when he was asked about the role of the Steele dossier, he was asked even whether or not they found evidence that Trump campaign had conspired in the release of stolen emails by WikiLeaks.
	Mueller said that he's not, that wasn't in his purview, or he was unaware.
	You know, Democrats tried to get him to say, you know, that Trump committed obstruction, which is now their only hope because the colloquian thing is so dumb and so discredited.
	And in fact, I think in the perfect encapsulation of Russia Gate possible, Mueller said something that was like, oh, bombshell, because he was talking to Ted Liu and he said something that made it sound like he would have indicted Trump if not for the OLC memo, which says you can't indict a sitting president.
	And so everyone's like, bombshell, bombshell.
	But then when later on, when Mueller appeared before the House Intelligence Committee an hour or so later in his opening statement, he said, I want to correct something I said before.
	I was not saying that but for the OLC memo, I would have indicted Trump.
	So basically, Mueller had to retract his bombshell.
	And I can't think of a bigger encapsulation of Russia Gate possible, or where we've had so many Mueller bombshells having to be retracted and discredited than Mueller retracting his own bombshell himself.
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	It was amazing to watch Mueller testify.
	He seemed worse than Joe Biden.
	The guy doesn't seem to have even control of his faculties.
	Like when you said that he wasn't aware of the stuff that's in his report, he wasn't aware of the stuff that's in his own report.
	Like Robert Mueller looked like a puppet that they just stuck a stick up his ass and put him on that thing.
	He didn't know what he was.
	I'll give you an example.
	I'll give you an example of how out of touch with his own report Robert Mueller was.
	Now, the whole thing started with the Steele dossier.
	Now, the Steele dossier was funded by the DNC and the Hillary Clinton campaign.
	What does that mean?
	Fund it.
	So they hired a company called Fusion GPS to go dig up dirt on Donald Trump.
	That's called opposition research.
	So they hired a spy, a former spy, a foreign spy from England, Richard Steele, to go dig up dirt on him because he had ties with the people in Russia.
	So what Richard Steele did was he called people he knew inside the Kremlin and asked for dirt on Donald Trump and they made up stories because Richard Steele was paying them for their stories.
	So that's how the dossier got put together.
	By the way, it's all bullshit, the dossier.
	Completely made up.
	And the Democratic Party and Hillary Clinton lied for a year straight to investigators that they funded it.
	They used that to get the FISA warrant on the Trump administration so they could spy on them.
	They used opposition research paid for by the Hillary Clinton campaign to get a FISA warrant, which is highly unethical to do that.
	I'm correct so far, right, Aaron?
	Well, yeah, one thing, Jimmy, I just think you might be giving the Steele dossier too much credit to even suggest that anything might have come from anybody in Russia, whether or not they were lying about it.
	I think it's possible that Steele didn't even speak to anybody in Russia at all, and that he had some source who claimed to know some Russians because there is some evidence that a lot of his stuff was heard secondhand.
	And they basically read the newspaper, made up some stuff that could fit with public developments.
	Because there's a lot of things in the Steele dossier that only come up after they've appeared in the newspaper.
	For example, Carter Page visiting Moscow.
	And so basically, whoever it was, whether they're Russian or not, certainly, yeah, it was bullshit.
	But yeah, and yes, the FBI used the Steele dossier in a FISA warrant to spy on Carter Page, an American citizen.
	They said that we believe that Carter Page is coordinating between the Russian government and the Trump campaign.
	And source number one for that was the Steele dossier.
	But of course, they hid the fact that the Democratic Party was paying for it.
	They used some vague language that they hid it.
	They literally hid it.
	They hid that.
	They hid information from the FISA court.
	And when I say, when you say they got a Pfizer warrant on Carter Page, I said that they got a Pfizer warrant on the Trump campaign.
	Both are true, because if you get a Pfizer warrant on Carter Page, there's a two-hop rule as been explained to me by Bill Binney, which means they can now listen to anybody that he talks to and anybody that he talks to talks to.
	So that means anybody he talked to inside the Trump administration, they can listen to their conversations.
	And anybody those people talk to else, they can.
	So they got everybody on that one FISA warrant.
	They got the entire Trump campaign on that one FISA warrant.
	Now, here he's going to be asked about the Steele dossier and the Fusion GPS.
	I know who Fusion GPS is.
	You know, me, a guy in my fucking garage.
	I know what Fusion GPS is.
	I know who Richard Steele is.
	And I know that the dossier is completely discredited.
	Watch the guy who ran this investigation for two years.
	The head of the FBI guy doesn't know what it is.
	Watch this.
	When discussing the June 2016 Trump Tower meeting, you referenced, quote, the firm that produced steel reporting, unquote.
	The name of that firm was Fusion GPS.
	Is that correct?
	And you're on page 103?
	103.
	That's correct.
	Volume 2.
	When you're talking about the firm that produced the steel reporting, the name of the firm that produced that was Fusion GPS.
	Is that correct?
	I'm not familiar.
	He's not familiar with Fusion GPS.
	This guy, it's like, who are you talking?
	What are you talking to my grandmother?
	Who are you?
	You're the head of the investigation.
	Are you not?
	I know who Fusion GPS is.
	Arno knows who fucking Fusion GPS is.
	My tech guy.
	Everybody knows who Fusion GPS is.
	And here is a renowned liar, Robert Mueller, who lied us into the Iraq war.
	One of the guys is now pretending not to know who the, so what he's doing is lying.
	And why is I'll play the rest of this and then we'll talk about why he's lying.
	With that, I'll let me just help.
	It was.
	It's not a trick question, right?
	It was Fusion GPS.
	It's not even a trick question.
	It's like the guy wasn't trying to trip him up.
	He's just trying to set up some facts before he gets to his question that's going to trick him up.
	And Robert Mueller gets tricked up by that question.
	What?
	Now, Fusion GPS produced the opposition research document, widely known as the Steele dossier.
	And the owner of Fusion GPA was someone named Glenn Simpson.
	Are you familiar with this is outside my purview?
	Okay.
	Not outside his purview.
	That's also a lie.
	So it's two lies in one question.
	He lied.
	He didn't know who GPS Fusion was.
	He's lying that that guy's outside of his purview.
	Am I overstating it, Aaron?
	No, I mean, look, it's like maybe Mueller can come up with some explanation for what he thought he was being asked, and that's what he was responding to.
	Something that was not clear to those of us watching it.
	But yeah, it looks really puzzling that he keeps saying that this is not outside his purview, especially since the key Russian participant in the Trump Tower meeting, Natalia Vesnotskaya, she met with Glenn Simpson of Fusion GPS.
	So now this now we're going to get into this part.
	So now I'm going to play this and then you'll come back and you'll explain to the people why this is important.
	Glenn Simpson was never mentioned in the 448 page Mueller report, was he?
	Well, as I say, it's outside my purview and it's being handled in the department by others.
	Okay.
	Well, he was not.
	448 pages.
	The owner of Fusion GPS that did the Steele dossier that started all this.
	He's not mentioned in there.
	Let me move on.
	At the same time, Fusion GPS was working to collect opposition research on Donald Trump from foreign sources on behalf of the Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee.
	It also was representing a Russian-based company, Prebizond, which had been sanctioned by the U.S. government.
	Are you aware of that?
	That's outside my purview.
	So what he just pointed out to the elite investigator, special counsel, was that the company that was digging up dirt from foreign spies on Donald Trump at the behest of the Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clinton's campaign, they were digging up dirt on Donald Trump from foreign governments that the guy who owned that company also met with a woman who was supposed to be meeting with Trump's people at the Trump Tower meeting.
	That was the big meeting that was supposed to be treason, where he was supposed to be getting dirt on Hillary Clinton from a foreign entity.
	And so what's important about that is that the woman, what's her name, Aaron?
	How do you say her name?
	Natalia Veselitskaya.
	So Natalia Veselskaya, I can't say it, but you said it well.
	So she was the person at that meeting with Trump.
	And she had meetings with the owner of Fusion GPS before that meeting.
	And she had meetings with the owner of GPS Fusion after that Trump Tower meeting.
	And so, well, here's what they say.
	Steele authored and compiled information for the controversial unverified anti-Trump dossier on behalf of Fusion GPS, the firm that was hired to conduct opposition research funded by the Democratic National Committee and the Hillary Clinton campaign.
	Fox News reported in 2017 that co-founder of Fusion GPS, Glenn Simpson, met with Velishlyaka, which is the woman before and after the meeting in Trump Tower.
	Now, Mueller report references the firm on page 103, noting that President Trump's legal team suggested that the meeting with Vestalithnania, former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, and Trump's eldest son, Don Trump Jr., and Trump son-in-law Jared Kushner might have been a setup by individuals working for the firm that produced the Steele reporting.
	So what they're saying, Aaron, correct me if I'm wrong, this woman who had the meeting with Kushner Trump Jr. at the Trump Tower meeting, she was working with the opposition firm hired by the Clintons.
	So what it looks like is that she was trying to bait the Trump campaign into doing something that they could say was illegal, which is exactly what happened, isn't it?
	So yeah, listen, it's certainly plausible.
	There's no proof of that yet, but it's one more strange coincidence where you have all these people with connections not to Russia, but to the West and to U.S. officials and to Democrats who are engaged in suspicious contacts with the Trump campaign.
	Same with the supposed predicate of the entire Trump-Russia investigation, which is Joseph Ms. Sud, who I'll get to in a second.
	But let me just say about the Trump Tower meeting.
	It's possible it was just a coincidence that Vesselskaya is working with the same firm that is accusing Trump of collusion and is forming the basis for the FBI getting surveillance warrants.
	Could be a coincidence.
	It's possible, right?
	I don't know.
	But you know what?
	But no matter what, the Trump Tower meeting is so much more of a joke because the reason why it was deemed a smoking gun was not even because of Vesselitskaya, but it's because of this email that Rob Goldstone got from, sorry, Don Jr. got from a British music publicist named Rob Goldstone.
	That's where he said that the Russian government is compromising information on Hillary Clinton and our dealings with Russia, and we'd like to offer it to the Trump campaign.
	And this is a part of the Russian government and its support for Mr. Trump.
	And, you know, everybody says this is proof of collusion.
	Adam Schiff always highlights this.
	It came up a lot today.
	But what nobody mentions and what Mueller leaves out of his report, which is so strange, because Mueller includes, of course, that there was no actual information provided in the meeting.
	It was a dud.
	But what Mueller omits is that the offer that Goldstone sent to John Jr. was fake and he was not acting on behalf of the Russian government.
	Rob Goldstone is a British music publicist working for a Russian pop star who asked him to get a meeting for his Russian associates, Veselitskaya.
	And so Goldstone, by his own account, and I just interviewed him, he made all this up.
	He made up that there was a crown prosecutor in Russia because there is no crown prosecutor.
	He got that from his home country of Britain.
	He made up the fact that the Russian government wants to give compromising information on Hillary Clinton.
	And by the way, in her dealings with Russia, which is not even, so that's not even about the content of stolen emails.
	So basically, what is deemed to be a smoking gun, Mueller leaves out the fact that it was a lie.
	It was fictitious.
	And so it's supposed to be taken seriously that the Trump campaign or Don Jr. took this meeting.
	But so Don Jr. took a meeting that was based on a phony offer.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Like maybe he should have called the FBI.
	I don't really care.
	And the fact is that people get dirt on their opponents all the time.
	But the point is, the offer itself was fake.
	And there's this disingenuous pattern of like supposed damning Russia contacts like this one, even though it's not actually a Russian contact.
	It's a fake email from a music publicist.
	And the same thing with Konstantin Kalimnik.
	We heard his name a lot today, where Mueller had Said that this Manafort business associate is tied to Russian intelligence.
	He never explains what that means.
	And we've since learned that Mueller left out the fact that Kalimnik actually has far more extensive U.S. ties.
	He's a State Department source.
	But because Kalimnik is a business associate of Paul Manafort, and because Manafort shared some polling data with him that was public, by the way, that turned into this crazy theory that we're still hearing about on MSNBC.
	I heard it a few days ago, this being floated, and it was floated again by Democrats today, that Kalemnik got the polling data from Manafort and then Kalimnik passed that on to his Russian Kremlin allies, and the Kremlin used that for their supposed sophisticated social media targeting campaign.
	Even though, of course, we know the social media was juvenile clickbait.
	And even though Mueller has had to admit in court recently that the social media that this Russian troll farm put out had nothing to do with the Russian government, that all this is somehow damning.
	And Mueller leaves out the fact that Kalimnik has all these extensive Western ties.
	And he was pressed on that today and he couldn't answer.
	He said, I'm not going to get into that.
	So time and time again, when Mueller was pressed on something, the word I use is he lied.
	He would lie.
	And he's used to lying to Congress.
	He lied to us about the Iraq and weapons of mass destruction and al-Qaeda.
	He did that.
	He went right along.
	That's why he was chosen for this role because he's a company man.
	He's going to go along with what the establishment and the intelligence community wants him to do.
	So he's still, he knows that there's no crime.
	In fact, watch that.
	So he knows there's no crime.
	And what he's actually doing is he's trying to still put a cloud out there in service of the establishment that there is a crime, even though he can't prove it, even though he investigated it for two years.
	This is nothing but an establishment hoax, as Glenn Greenwald calls it.
	It is a hoax being perpetrated on the American people.
	And Robert Mueller is the perfect tool to help perpetrate that hoax.
	And by the way, I think he got completely revealed today.
	And here's another.
	So that reveals him to he's pretending that the guy who owns GP Fusion GPS wasn't inside his purview.
	That's a lie.
	He's also pretending to not know who GPS Fusion is.
	That's also a lie.
	You know how I know it's a lie?
	Because I fucking know who they are.
	Okay, that's how you know.
	That's how I know.
	So now watch this question by Mueller.
	First, he's going to be asked, did your report conclude that was there any evidence of anybody from the Trump campaign colluding with anybody from the Russian government?
	No, there wasn't.
	That's what your report says.
	And then he agrees to that.
	Watch this.
	Is it true the evidence gathered during your investigation did not establish that the president was involved in the underlying crime related to Russian election interference as stated in volume one, page seven?
	We found insufficient evidence of the president's culpability.
	So that'll be a yes.
	Pardon?
	That'll be a yes.
	Yeah, that's what?
	What was it?
	What is he doing?
	He asked him a direct question.
	Did you find any evidence of Trump or his campaign colluding with Russian officials?
	Well, we found insufficient evidence.
	You mean you didn't find any evidence?
	Yeah, exactly, Jimmy.
	What he's trying to do is using a reverse standard of justice where you assume he's guilty.
	Because that's the problem here.
	Mueller, as you say, is a company man.
	So he had to validate this whole thing, this decision by the FBI to investigate the Trump campaign.
	And then later on to investigate Trump as a Russian agent, literally.
	In the spring of 2017, they opened up a new investigation of Trump as a Russian agent, which we still haven't gotten the bottom of.
	It's just, it's crazy.
	And so he tries to use this suggestive language.
	Well, we found insufficient evidence.
	No, you actually found no evidence.
	And that's why your report contains no evidence.
	No evidence.
	And when he gets pressed on that, he has to admit it.
	But they use this disingenuous language to throw red meat to their base, which is people in the intelligence community and it's people who watch MSNBC.
	And it's so disingenuous.
	And it's what's helped hyped up this thing for so long, even though there's actually nothing there.
	I really wanted somebody to ask Mueller, did anybody from the Trump campaign meet with anybody actually acting on the Russian government's behalf?
	There's all this talk about contacts with Russia.
	And we're supposed to assume that because somebody in the Trump camp speaks to somebody who's from Russia or speaks to someone who claims to know somebody who is from Russia, that that's suspicious.
	But missing from all this is any actual interaction between a Trump associate and somebody who's actually acting on the Kremlin's behalf.
	There's only two exceptions.
	There's the Russian ambassador, which that's what happens during campaigns is the ambassadors meet people.
	You're in Washington, you interact with people from foreign governments.
	That's what happens.
	And then there's a Kremlin press office assistant who calls back Michael Cohen to say, I'm sorry, we can't help you build Trump Tower, Moscow.
	So that is the only actual interaction between the Trump camp and anybody acting on behalf of the Kremlin.
	And that's why the Mueller report even says that after Trump won, the Kremlin and top Russian elites wanted to reach out to the Trump camp, but they didn't have any pre-existing contacts.
	Exactly, because they didn't conspire with them before the election.
	So of course they're not going to have Aaron.
	In the Mueller report, it says that the Russian government, Putin's government, after Trump won the election, wanted to reach out to the Trump campaign or Trump's administration.
	And they didn't have a contact number to do that.
	That's what the report says, Aaron.
	That's right.
	They did not have pre-existing contacts.
	And so if they don't have pre-existing contacts after the election, then what are the odds that they conspired in a massive election conspiracy before the election?
	It doesn't really make sense.
	Unless they have a time machine where they somehow erase their pre-existing contacts, they no longer have them after the election.
	I don't know.
	So that's not Trump saying that.
	That's the Mueller report.
	The Mueller report itself says that the Russian government didn't have a way to get in contact with the Trump administration after the election.
	That's what it says in the Mueller report.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	That's right.
	By the way, I don't want to, you know, I want to actually highlight that Mueller actually did debunk some conspiracy theories today.
	Basically, on a lot of things, he basically declined to answer, but a few things for some reason he did answer.
	So remember the whole thing about, and again, this was the subject of a major article in The New Yorker, supposedly a serious liberal publication, and it was in the Atlantic.
	And of course, it was on MSNBC a lot that the Trump Tower or like the Trump organization had communicated via a secret server to Alpha Bank, a Russian bank.
	And the theory was, and this was the subject, I swear to God, it's a long article in the New Yorker, debated in serious drugs.
	I know what this is.
	I know this story.
	You covered this.
	You covered this.
	So Mueller was asked about it.
	He said, no, there's no evidence of it.
	It's not there.
	Mueller also was asked whether he uncovered any evidence of compromise.
	Remember Compromat?
	We heard about that every single day for two years about how the Russians have blackmailed Donald Trump through some sort of financial dealings that we still haven't heard about yet or a P-tape.
	Robert Mueller said he found no evidence of compromise.
	Now, that's Jenk Uger's Theory that they have compromising stuff on him financially, right?
	That's what Jenk Uger's theory is, right?
	That's right.
	And by the way, Mueller was asked, did anybody ask you or tell you from the Justice Department not to look into Trump's finances?
	Because that was a big concern pushed by people who think that the smoking gun is there.
	And Mueller said no.
	Nobody told us not to look into Trump's finances.
	By the way, I mean, if we care about financial ties to Russia, and I don't adopt the xenophobic mentality that having business in Russia or having knowing people in Russia is suspicious.
	I think we should treat every country equally no matter their nationality.
	Although some people, it's fashionable these days to think that Russia, as James Clapper said once, are genetically driven to co-opt and mislead people.
	But I don't subscribe to that.
	But by the way, if we care about that, then if you want to look at real financial ties to Russia, Bill Clinton, back when Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State, he gave a speech to a Russian bank that was being sanctioned for $500,000.
	That's one of his top top fees he ever charged for a speech.
	And who paid that fee?
	Who paid it?
	It was a Russian bank.
	It was a sanctioned Russian bank.
	A primary bank.
	On the trip, he even got a personal phone call from Vladimir Putin thanking him.
	And around that same time, Hillary Clinton started opposing those same sanctions that that bank that paid Bill Clinton was under.
	And the Clint, and we know now from the DNC leaks that came out that the Clinton campaign celebrated the fact that Bloomberg was going to run a story in the summer of 2016, no, or at some point in 2016 during the campaign, raising questions about Bill Clinton getting half a million dollars from a Russian bank.
	And the Clinton campaign succeeded the fact that they'd killed that story.
	Yeah.
	You know?
	So whatever.
	I mean, in terms of the scale of Clinton corruption, I think that's probably pretty low.
	But I think anybody getting $500,000 for a speech is corrupt to begin with.
	I don't think it's necessarily bad just because it's from Russia.
	But if we care about Russian money, I mean, the point is there, there is more proven financial ties between the Clintons and Russia than there is Donald Trump in Russia.
	That's just an unfortunate fact, one of many that gets overlooked.
	And, you know, Mueller today saying that no one stopped him from looking into the finances.
	Mueller also said, did anybody impede your investigation at all?
	No.
	It was obstructed in no way, which then makes it difficult to bring an obstruction case if the guy carrying out the investigation says his investigation was not obstructed.
	That's amazing.
	All right.
	So I know you have to go because you're very busy now at your show called Pushback on the Gray Zone.
	But if you have a few more minutes, I want to play the rest of this.
	Okay, so now watch.
	Mueller again gets caught completely lying.
	Watch this.
	Isn't it true the evidence did not establish that the president or those close to him were involved in the charged Russian computer hacking or active measure conspiracies or that the president otherwise had unlawful relationships with any Russian official?
	Volume two, page 76.
	So now he's just asking him one more time from your own report.
	Was there any contact whatsoever?
	Was there any cyber crime, any evidence of any kind of thing between Trump's administration and Russians doing any kind of nefarious?
	And what does Mueller say?
	Correct.
	I leave the answer to the report.
	Correct.
	So it has a yes.
	Is that Danny true?
	Your investigation did not establish that members of the Trump campaign conspired or coordinated with Russian government in the election interference activity.
	Volume one, page two, volume one, page 173.
	Thank you.
	Yes.
	Again, now, your investigation found no evidence of anything.
	Correct.
	Yes.
	Thank you.
	Although your report states.
	So now here is where he lies again.
	This is where this guy catches him in a lie.
	Watch this.
	His report, this is when they start to talk about collusion and conspiracy.
	Now, in the report, Robert Mueller says that collusion and conspiracy are considered synonyms in legal parlance.
	In the report, he says that.
	But when he was asked about that in his testimony, he said they aren't considered synonyms.
	So he's contradicting himself again, which is what liars do all the time.
	And so he's lying.
	And so now this guy wants to ask him, when were you lying?
	Are you lying in the report?
	Or are you lying now in your testimony?
	And Robert Mueller, honest to God, he looks like he just got woken up out of a fucking 20-year sleep and he has no idea what the fuck is going on.
	Watch this.
	Watch this.
	It's not so specific offense, and you said that this morning.
	Or a term of art in federal criminal laws.
	Conspiracy is.
	In the colloquial context, are collusion and conspiracy essentially synonymous terms.
	You're going to have to repeat that for me.
	Collusion is not a specific offense or a term of art in the federal criminal law.
	Conspiracy is.
	In the colloquial context, known public context.
	Collusion and conspiracy are essentially synonymous terms, correct?
	No.
	If no, on page 180 of volume one of your report, you wrote, as defined in legal dictionaries, collusion is largely synonymous with conspiracy as that crime is set forth in the general federal conspiracy statute 18 USC 371.
	So he just asked him, is collusion and conspiracy considered dissimilar or synonyms colloquially?
	And Robert Mueller just said, no, they are not.
	He goes, well, in your freaking report, you say they are considered synonyms and the same thing in legal parlance.
	You say it in your report, and now you're saying completely something different in your testimony.
	And my question would be, why are you lying?
	But that's not his question, but let's watch.
	You said at your May 29th press conference and here today, you choose your words carefully.
	Are you sitting here today testifying something different than what your report states?
	Well, what I'm asking is if you can give me the citation, I can look at the site.
	He's pretending to not know the question.
	Again, I know he's lying and full of shit.
	And you know how I know?
	Because I understand the question.
	That's why.
	And I already smoked pot this morning.
	I understand the question.
	So that's how I know Robert Mueller understands the question.
	And he's fucking lying.
	Okay, here we go.
	Haitian and evaluate whether it is.
	Okay, let me just be clarified.
	You stated that you would stay within the report.
	I just stated your report back to you.
	And you said that collusion and conspiracy were not synonymous terms.
	That was your answer was no.
	That's correct.
	In that, page 180 of volume one of your report.
	It says, as defined in legal dictionaries, collusion is largely synonymous with conspiracy as that crime is set forth in general conspiracy statute 18 USC 371.
	Now, you said you chose your words carefully.
	Are you contradicting your report right now?
	Not when I read it.
	I mean, I think this is when David Axelrod tweeted out.
	This is painful.
	It was so awkward.
	It was so awkward.
	And, you know, he, that was big because, you know, Mueller initially tried to get away with saying, well, we didn't look into collusion, so which then leaves the impression that maybe there was collusion.
	But again, having his own quote reported to him where collusion is largely synonymous with conspiracy, the crime he cleared Trump on.
	It was just, it was just painful.
	You know, I got to wrap Jimmy's.
	So I wanted to say one more thing that came to mind.
	I mean, there's so much today.
	And we're going to talk more about it in the coming days.
	Okay.
	You know, one thing mueller did do is he validated this ongoing fear-mongering about russia he was asked about russian interference and he said uh they're doing it as we sit here they're doing it as we sit here and they expect to do it in the next campaign you know and that was echoed by democratic lawmakers one democratic lawmaker i didn't catch her name she called russia's alleged interference juvenile social media clickbait she called it a quote invasion she said i wouldn't call it interference i'd call it an invasion
	and adam shiff of course doing what he does he called alleged russian interference quote the most serious attack on our democracy by a foreign power in our history i tell the people who are around for pearl harbor this is called propaganda this is called you know tell that to talk about tell that to the people who are in the twin towers on 9-11.
	Yeah, exactly.
	So one thing Mueller did, and which no party is going to challenge, the Republicans aren't going to challenge this because all they care about is exonerating Trump, is that Mueller continued this unhinged Russia baiting, blaming Russia for everything.
	Recently, I sent you, you know, like we talked about this where Kamala Harris blamed Russian bots for the Colin Kaepernick controversy.
	So that is bipartisan, and that's going to keep going.
	And Robert Mueller continued that today.
	And so, well, I think the collusion aspect might maybe die down now.
	I mean, because how, I don't know how Democrats could possibly, anyway.
	But I've said that before.
	So what is bipartisan is the Russia baiting.
	And that will continue.
	You mean, so you mean the xenophobia?
	The xenophobia and the fear-mongering and the, you know, doing sort of painting Russia as this mortal threat, which ultimately only justifies the privileged positions and the policies of the same people who gave us Russia gate to begin with.
	Because intelligence officials who investigated Trump, they didn't challenge him because they don't like his misogyny or his racism or xenophobia.
	They investigated him because they didn't like he was saying he was talking about not being a military interventionist, even though I think that was a con on Trump's part.
	And also Trump was saying he wanted to get along with Russia.
	That's what I think sparked their concern, of course, which then dovetails with the interests of the failed neoliberal Democrats who lost to Trump needed an excuse.
	And so the result of that was this two-year-plus thing where Robert Mueller is painted as a savior figure.
	And his performance today, I think, underscores in the clearest terms possible why that was such a disaster.
	Can I, before I let you go, can I just read from the book, Shattered?
	So this was the book that was written right after the campaign, and it tells you exactly where the Russia gate comes from.
	Okay.
	So this is from that book.
	It says the strategy had been set within 24 hours of her concession speech.
	Robbie Mook and Podesta assembled her communications team at the Brooklyn headquarters to engineer the case that the election wasn't entirely on the up and up.
	For a couple of hours with Shake Shack containers littering the room, they went over the script that would pitch, they would pitch to the press and to the public.
	Already Russian hacking was the centerpiece of the argument.
	That's right.
	Everyone in the, go ahead.
	Oh, yeah, Jimmy, that's what it all comes from.
	And unfortunately, too many people got enrolled in what was an exercise by the failed Clinton camp to deflect blame for their loss, to blame Russia, to concoct a conspiracy theory and make that the way to resist Trump,
	not present a real viable alternative to Trump and to the neoliberal Democrats that he defeated, because that is the way to beat him, not through a conspiracy fantasy, but through being an actual opposition party, which means challenging the corporate sectors that neoliberal Democrats are beholden to.
	And there's a refusal to do that because that would threaten their own privileged position and their own policies and their own legacy.
	And so instead we got Russia Gate instead.
	And look where it brought us today.
	Just another humiliation and a massive dud.
	So, Aaron, don't you think what is exactly happening is what RussiaGate has done.
	RussiaGate has been an evidence-free redbaiting conspiracy theory.
	And it was concocted.
	One of the big reasons was to distract people away from the real reason that they lost to a game show host and a political novice.
	That was the big reason.
	Of course, the news also liked it because it got ratings.
	Trump rushed it.
	It's just like war.
	It gets ratings.
	The intelligence community liked it because it helps ramp up more in the military-industrial complex.
	It ramps up more money for defense budgets, hundreds of billions of dollars, right?
	And so we were, you know, peace is not good for those people.
	So it served a lot of interests.
	It's right out there.
	It's an evidence-free, red-baiting conspiracy theory designed to distract us from the real causes of why Donald Trump became president.
	That's what RussiaGate is.
	That Robert Mueller thing was debacle today.
	And again, predicted, predicted he would have nothing good to say that would satiate the Russiagaters.
	Just like we predicted that his report would be bullshit.
	I didn't predict it.
	You predicted it, and I repeated your prediction.
	And because I know you and because I know Bill Binney, because I know John Kariako, and because I listened to Julian Assange saying he didn't get any of this from the Russians, I know that this was all bullshit.
	And again, it doesn't, just like Greg Palace explained, you don't have to be a great investigative reporter.
	You don't even have to be a bad one.
	All you have to do is stick your head down the street and see what's happening and report back.
	And that's all I'm doing.
	And so I have access to guys like you.
	I have access to guys like Bill Binney.
	So does Chris Hayes, Rachel Maddow, and Jake Tapper.
	Oh, by the way, I'm sure that they're going to have you on now, right, to talk about the Mueller thing because you won an award about this and you write for the nation and everybody knows who you are now.
	So MSNBC probably invited you on, right?
	Well, this is the point, Jimmy.
	I mean, RussiaGate has underscored that so much of media, and unfortunately, too many of our progressive media colleagues have fallen for this too, that so much of media now is about reinforcing establishment narratives.
	And if you don't go along with that, then you get attacked and scorned.
	So many people dismissed us for warning for two years that this whole thing was a joke and was going to backfire.
	So, you know, there are fine lines now, and that's why it just underscores the importance of independent media and people who are not in it to get invited to parties with people who work at MBC, who work at the DNC or at MSNBC,
	but people who actually care about following facts and building a real movement in this country, a real progressive movement that's about, you know, policies and not based on worshiping Robert Mueller and other intelligence officials and counting on a conspiracy fantasy to bring them down.
	And I hope all the people, I hope especially all of our colleagues in progressive media, there's a lot of them, a lot of them.
	I hope that they can see today, if they haven't seen it yet, what a disaster this was for them.
	And I hope this will teach them to be not so credulous, that just because something is portrayed to us as being anti-Trump, because it was fashionable to think that this was the way to resist Trump.
	And so Everybody felt the kind of pressure to go along with it.
	But just because we're told that, it doesn't mean that it's actually true.
	And it doesn't mean we have to go along with it.
	It's our job as journalists in the media and as progressives to follow the facts and to resist phony narratives that are done not for the in the interest of a real democracy or protecting the country, but in the interest of protecting the privilege of failed neoliberal elites.
	So do you think the Democrats, I think they did.
	They effectively pressed the pause button after they lost to Trump, meaning we're going to, we're not going to advance as a party.
	We're not going to do introspection.
	We're not going to actually oppose Donald Trump because they don't oppose him.
	They fast-track his judges.
	They help him deregulate Wall Street.
	They vote for his border bill that they say is racist.
	They completely roll over for Donald Trump on Iran for and Venezuela, Syria, the whole thing, right?
	So what they have effectively done, Aaron, is they have pressed the pause button.
	So we haven't had a conversation about what direction the country should go in and what's wrong with our opposition party and why doesn't anybody represent the workers.
	Nobody is having that conversation.
	And what they want to do is they want to have the 2020 election about the same thing that they had it about in 2016.
	Joe Biden's thing is I'm a nicer guy than Donald Trump.
	And that's what they're going to run on again, right?
	Exactly.
	That's exactly right.
	And I got to run, so I want to take an opportunity to plug my new show, Pushback, which is airing on the gray zone pushbackshow.com.
	And I just spoke to a Venezuelan economist who is very critical of Maduro, but he's honest enough to admit now, because he's seeing this happen, that U.S. sanctions on Venezuela could cause a famine.
	That's according to him.
	His name is Francisco Rodriguez.
	Again, a bitter opponent of Nicholas Maduro, but he's saying that according to the data he's seen, that U.S. sanctions on Venezuela threaten a famine there.
	And where are the Democrats been on that?
	They've been either silent on it for the most part or supportive.
	Supportive.
	Only a few exceptions.
	And, you know, I say this anecdote often, but I think it says it all.
	There were bigger protests by liberal groups under Trump about the firing of Jeff Sessions than there were over his tax cut, the biggest upward transfer of wealth in U.S. history.
	And because people thought that Jeff Sessions, him being fired, was a threat to Robert Mueller's job.
	Well, we just heard today that Mueller say that his investigation was never impeded with.
	So congratulations to liberals for that.
	And, you know, just today, we're learning that Trump wants to kick 3 million people off of food stamps.
	You know, are we going to see Democrats hold hearings about that?
	Are we going to see round to like around the clock coverage on MSNBC?
	Of course we're not, because they're not fundamentally interested in being a real resistance.
	They're not fundamentally interested in actually challenging Trump.
	They're interested in sustaining their own privilege.
	And that's why the only things that they have to go on are stupid conspiracy theories like the Russia Gate or making this all about Trump's personality and Joe Biden saying he's a better guy.
	It's a joke and it's not a real opposition party.
	And that's why we all...
	So this bullshit Rushigate thing is a complete failure because the Democratic Party is a complete failure.
	The walls are closing in, Jimmy.
	The walls are closing in.
	Aaron Mate, everybody check out his new show, Pushback on the Gray Zone, right?
	So it's grayzone.com and you're doing that with Max Blumenthal and Ben Norton and a bunch of other people.
	So good luck to you on that show.
	You know, I always razz you, but we loved your show when it was on the real news, and I really look forward to your new show.
	Thanks, Jimmy.
	I really appreciate that.
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