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Feb. 28, 2019 - Jimmy Dore Show
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Get ready for an outstanding entertainment program.
The Jimmy Dore Show.
Hello, this is Jimmy.
Hey there, this is Secretary of Energy Richard Dick Perry.
Dick?
I've never heard you go by dick before, Secretary Perry.
Well, it's never too late to reinvent yourself.
That's what I always say.
Okay.
I've just started saying.
Okay.
You should try it.
Maybe you could be Jimmy James Dore.
No.
No, thank you.
John Dore?
No.
How about just Jimmy Jimmy?
You know, I tried that once and it never really caught on.
You know what?
I think after I'm done here in Washington, I'm going to be one of those kilt dudes.
You know how I mean?
One of those dudes at the Renaissance Fair that wants you to look at them real bad.
Do they wear a kilt?
Uh-huh.
I guess I'd have to grow a ponytail and a goatee, though.
Rick, what did you want to talk about?
President Trump saving the world?
Oh, yeah, how so?
As we speak, he is meeting face to face with Kim Jong-un in Hanoi, Vietnam.
Did you serve in Vietnam, Jimmy?
No, no, Rick.
I was too young.
Me neither.
I was in the Air Force, though, but I spent the war in Texas where we were protecting cattle from dudes who like to have sex with cows.
You know, neither did Donald Trump.
He had a doctor pay to say he had bone spurs.
Well, but he is in Vietnam right now, working to prevent future Vietnams.
Assuming that we can use the term Vietnam as to mean any generalized conflict.
Hey, look, good relations with North Korea is probably a good thing, but if this is anything like the last time, it's probably just a publicity stunt.
I mean, Trump's, that's his bread and butter.
And it'll probably achieve nothing tangible.
Meanwhile, you have Indian Pakistan on the literal nuclear brink.
Maybe let's put our diplomatic efforts where they are truly needed.
Jimmy, why do you have to be so cylindrical?
You mean cynical?
No, cylindrical.
It's like you're a giant tube filled with hatred and cynicism.
No, I'm a giant tube filled with knowing that Trump is full of shit and that nothing he does has any other purpose than a photo op.
Look, he can't solve all the world's problems at once.
India and Pakistan, he doesn't know those guys.
You know, he's got to know those guys.
Guys, what guys?
Whatever guys run those countries.
Do they have their own Trumps?
Maybe.
I don't know who the Pakistan guy is.
Maybe a dude named Ahmad.
That's just a guess.
Damn, that'd be wild if I was right, though.
That's great then.
Our president only engages in diplomacy with other world leaders who are like him, meaning unstable and vain?
Yes, but that's fine.
There's a lot of those guys, and their countries are usually fucked up and cause a lot of problems.
Even if Donald Trump focused on meeting nothing but Trump-type dudes or TTDs around the world for the rest of his term, he'd still solve a large chunk of the world's problems.
Rick.
Dick.
Rick Dick.
Look, just because Trump meets with someone doesn't mean that he's solving anything.
Jimmy, as you know, the first step to conflict resolution is meeting face to face.
Yeah, okay, but then there are lots more steps to it than that.
Perhaps, for the purposes of the argument, I will accept your premise.
But that is still the first one, the first step.
I'm still right about that part.
Oh, really?
What are the next steps?
I don't know.
None of us know.
Especially me.
I'm in energy, not state, and I'm barely qualified for that.
I'm glad you're so confident in your boss.
Being confident in your boss is the backbone of good character.
Literally, no one thinks that.
You're just supporting an idiot.
Jimmy, I will support any idiot who works to make a safer world with other idiots.
Good to know.
Hey, speaking of safety, have you lost any more toxic waste recently, Rick?
Not me personally.
I'm still stuck here at the fake CIA Burger King in Maryland.
Raul, strawberry, shake me.
Also call me Rick Dick.
like that now.
Ha ha ha!
It's the Jimmy Dore show.
the show for the kind of people that are It's the show that makes Anderson Cooper save.
It's hard to talk to you, T-Wee.
And now, here's a guy who sounds a lot like me.
It's Jimmy Dore!
Hi, everybody.
Welcome to this week's Jimmy Door Show.
We'll see you March 31st in Ventura, California at the Ventura Harbor Comedy Club.
Go to JimmyDoorComedy.com for a link for all the tickets.
We'll see you also May 3rd in Burbank, California.
Another live Jimmy Dore show.
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I already told you.
All right, let's get to some jokes before we get to the jokes, shall we?
I don't know if you saw Michael Cohen testify, but there are so many lies getting exposed by Michael Cohen's testimony, but the biggest one has to be that the Democrats are the resistors.
Am I right?
Come on.
Come on.
That Cohen testimony is something.
It's good to know that we're using a known liar to determine whether another known liar was lying at a time where there might actually be consequences for his lying.
And the people he lied to are also known liars.
USA, am I right?
And if you compare Cohen with, say, Julian Assange, it's funny because it's funny how the Democrats welcome the testimony of a convicted perjurer presenting verifiable evidence of fraud, but ignore, condemn, and then threaten a news gathering organization for releasing verifiable evidence that the DNC rigged the primaries.
Go Rangers, am I right?
Hey, did you see that videotape of Diane Feinstein getting confronted by those school kids talking to her about the Green New Deal because they're going to be affected by climate change and she isn't?
Did you see that?
Did you know that she was surprised that her encounter with the Green New Deal students went viral?
Yep.
She said she didn't know you could use your phone to upload a video to the internet.
In her defense, Chuck Schumer said, hold my pet rock.
Am I right?
When they asked her if she knew that it went viral, she said it couldn't have.
She got her flu shot this year.
Dianne Feinstein is the senator most likely to ask, hey, how do you rewind this DVD?
Yeah, her staff told Dianne Feinstein that her new cell phone comes with three apps, and she immediately drove to Applebee's.
Come on.
Come on.
That's an apps joke.
Good to know that Diane Feinstein slept through the 2012 election where a dude with a cell phone in his hand sunk Mitt Romney.
Am I right?
Imagine having to explain to Diane Feinstein what a podcast is.
That's got to be something.
Hey, did you hear Israel, Israel?
They're sending their first space exploration.
Did you hear they have a...
And their countered their first spatial exploration mission encountered a glitch on Friday when it shot the man in the moon for trying to get some clean water.
Israel plans to set up base there once they finish bulldozing all six Apollo landing modules.
Hey, in a related story, Dianne Feinstein got a fax machine.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Hey, what's coming up on today's show?
We have special guests with us, Aaron Matei from The Nation magazine, and he just came back from Venezuela.
And turns out everything CNN has been telling you about Venezuela has been 100% propaganda.
We're going to talk to Aaron Matei about what's really happening in Venezuela and what's really happening with the U.S. aid.
Plus, the Michael Cohen testimony leads to some pretty awkward moments for Russia Gators.
Plus, who's the real mafia in Venezuela?
Is it Maduro or is it the Trump regime?
Plus, we got phone calls today.
Senator Sherrod Brown, Liam Neeson, Rick Perry, and Master of the Senate, Chuck Schumer.
Plus, a lot lot more.
That's today on the Jimmy Door show.
Hi, everybody.
Welcome to Jimmy Door Show.
We have special guests with us.
It's Aaron Matte from The Nation.
Hi, Aaron.
How are you?
Hey, Jimmy, how you doing?
Now, you know, you've seen Aaron on the show before.
He's been on top of it when it comes to Russia Gate, and he knows all the ins, a lot of outs, and a beverage.
And to quote the dude, but we're here, and we're going to talk about Michael Cohen because he testified today, and it's a big deal.
And there's a, now, just let me get your overall view.
You saw all the testimony.
What's your overall take?
Did the resistance get anything today?
I think it's another loss for the conspiracy theory.
Cohen said that he has no evidence of collusion.
He said that Trump did not tell him to lie to Congress about the failed Trump Tower Moscow deal, which was a huge bombshell story when it came out until Mueller retracted it.
Right.
So now we have both Mueller debunking it and we have Cohen rejecting it.
So that was that big BuzzFeed story that led a lot of people to say that this is it.
We got him.
Trump's done.
Because BuzzFeed was reporting that Mueller knew that this guy, Cohen, Mueller knew that this guy was ordered by Trump to lie to Congress.
That was what BuzzFeed was saying.
And then Mueller broke all protocol and precedent, and he came out and debunked that BuzzFeed story and said it's not accurate.
Exactly.
And so then he was asked today about that.
They asked him, hey, why didn't you debunk that?
And he said, it's not my job to debunk BuzzFeed.
Exactly.
It's not my job to be a fact checker.
So now we have Mueller debunking it.
Now we have Cohen debunking it.
So we probably can say now that it's not true.
I think we can accept that now.
BuzzFeed still stands by that story, are they?
Because they stood by it all the way up to who knows.
At press time, I believe they're still standing by it.
They're still standing by it.
We'll see.
There's a top 10 reasons why they still stand by it.
That's coming out.
And this should be the end for that reporter guy.
There's two of them.
They should at least.
No, but that guy, because that guy has a that guy has a bad past of being plagiarized.
And then he pulls this and he stands by it.
Anyway, let's get to the real story.
So right here, Michael Cohen is going to allege.
He's going to allege that Roger Stone had advanced knowledge from WikiLeaks about the emails being released and that Roger Stone called Trump.
Listen to this.
Listen to this.
A lot of people have asked me about whether Mr. Trump.
First of all, it is hilarious that this guy sounds like he sounds.
A lot of people have asked me.
It is like, are you kidding?
This is a good joke, right?
No, this is a lawyer, the president's lawyer.
The president's lawyer.
A lot of people have been asking me stuff.
I got to tell you something.
I don't fall a lie, all right?
They've been boking the nose where it doesn't belong.
Hey, you know, we're in the olive oil business.
All right, here we go.
Knew about the release of the hacked documents, Democratic National Committee emails ahead of time.
And the answer.
By the way, they all go to the same reading coach, too.
I don't know if you've noticed that.
They all go to the same reading coach.
It's horrible.
Watch this.
Let's listen to him.
Listen to him.
A lot of people have asked me about whether Mr. Trump knew about the release of the hacked documents, the Democratic National Committee emails ahead of time.
And the answer is yes.
As I earlier stated, Mr. Trump knew from Roger Stone in advance about the WikiLeaks drop of emails in July of 2016, days before the Democratic Convention.
I was in Mr. Trump's office when his secretary announced that Roger Stone was on the phone.
Mr. Trump put Mr. Stone on the speakerphone.
Mr. Stone told Mr. Trump that he had just gotten off the phone with Julian Assange and that Mr. Assange told Mr. Stone that within a couple of days, there would be a massive dump of emails that would damage Hillary Clinton's campaign.
Mr. Trump responded by stating to the effect, wouldn't that be great?
So there you have it.
According to Trump's lawyer, Cohen, Roger Stone called Trump and told him he just talked to Julian Assange, and there's going to be a lot more emails coming.
So that was some inside information he had.
I wonder where he got it.
I wonder if Roger Stone actually talked to Julian Assange because I don't know if you look at the date on that.
This is July 7th of 2016.
They're already proclaiming that stuff that Roger Stone just told Trump on the phone on July 18th, they tweeted about on July 7th.
So that's why this is hilarious.
If Trump knew in advance about the pending publication of hacked DNC emails, so did everyone who followed the WikiLeaks Twitter account.
It was public information.
That's what's so maddening about this ridiculous narrative.
Exactly right.
And nobody brought that up.
Of course not.
Nobody's sitting there.
All those ass wipes who have been who are holding this hearing, they don't know that and they don't bring it up.
By the way, here's also WikiLeaks.
Michael Cohen's testimony to Congress.
WikiLeaks publisher Julian Assange has never had a telephone call with Roger Stone.
WikiLeaks publicly teased its pending publication on Hillary and published 30,000 of her emails on March 16th, 2016.
So what I love about, here's Ron Lacone.
He says, we're using a known liar to determine whether another known liar was lying at a time where there might actually be consequences for his lying.
And the people he lied to are also known liars.
USA.
So, but here's Matt Taibbi tweeted this out.
The over-under on news outlets today who will underscore Cohen's testimony that Trump in July 2016 knew in advance and ahead of time of a WikiLeaks dump damaging to Clinton and leave out the fact that Assange announced this on TV on June 12th.
So it even goes back further than the tweets from WikiLeaks, which was July 7th.
This was him on a TV show on June 12th saying the same thing that Michael Cohen just said Roger Stone gave inside infrastructure.
It was all public knowledge.
The fact that Cohen didn't know that and Trump didn't know that just shows you how stupid they are, that they didn't know that this was already public knowledge.
And this is a great example of how the conspiracy theory works.
So this is how, let me just, before you explain, let me just say this.
What people are doing is you started a conclusion and then you find the evidence to back it up.
The conclusion is there was Trump and conspiracy and then you just go and then you can twist it.
So go ahead.
Yeah, well, it's a great example of how the conspiracy theory works.
And Matt Taibbi was prescient because if you watch CNN today, if you read the headlines, they say, you know, Trump was told in advance of the WikiLeaks emails.
They omit exactly as you're saying.
They omit the fact that those emails were already announced publicly by WikiLeaks.
They just don't mention it.
And that is how this conspiracy theory about Trump and Rush has worked for over two years.
They just leave out anything that is countervailing.
And to get it, you have to go to places like Jimmy Dore.
But otherwise, if you watch the corporate media.
Even the non-corporate media.
Sure, yeah.
Even the non-corruption.
Even the non-corporate media pushes this exact narrative.
That's true.
It's true.
Anybody, there is an incentive to peddling this conspiracy theory because it's been decided as the way we're resisting Trump.
And it benefits too many powerful people who happen to decide that it benefits their agenda for different reasons.
But the point is, the impact is to, it's basically, it's propaganda.
And it works like this.
It works by omission by leaving out the countervailing facts that undermine the entire premise.
Yeah.
So CNN is still reporting this goofily, like Matt Taibbi predicted.
And they've been pushing this Russia gate.
And I've been showing segment after segment how ridiculous CNN is being pushing this.
When Trump calls them the enemy of the people, that is actually unfortunate because they're so horrible that they can, they are so horrible.
They're horrible.
The news media, CNN, they're horrible.
But when Trump says you're the enemy of the people, he's using words from Stalin.
And so then they can then deflect, they can use that to take away from the accurate criticism that CNN, the Washington Post, New York Times, that they actually have coming.
So it's like they have the greatest adversary as far as they are concerned.
They're lucky to have Trump as an adversary because they suck.
And they're reporting it exactly like Matt Taibbi said they would report it.
And that's why you can't get your news from CNN.
Can you get your news from CNN, Aaron?
I mean, I do, but if you have a magnifying glass and you're prepared to research and then like, it's like reading through, it's like doing a research project to read the news properly.
Yes.
Because you have to account for the fact that you're going to be told either false information or they're going to leave out anything countervailing.
And the fact is people don't have time to do their own research projects unless you're paid to do it, unless you're a journalist, basically.
So that's how the propaganda system works.
It's just we rely on these news sources to give us accurate information and they don't do their jobs.
And then Trump can take advantage of that for his own selfish purposes.
And then we have this like death spiral where everyone is caught in the middle between Trump calling them the enemy of the people and then CNN standing up and presenting themselves as being brave truth tellers when really they're peddling a bunch of false information.
And Trump saying that gives them a great excuse to basically avoid the fact that there's a reason why people don't have confidence in the media.
That's right.
It's not because Trump attacks them.
It's because they keep screwing up.
Yeah.
And they keep making folks.
They don't screw up.
They do their job.
This is not screwing up.
Right.
They do their job, which is to peddle propaganda.
That's right.
That's exactly right.
And, you know, there was a time when we know for sure in this country when the CIA had reporters working directly for them.
Cointel Pro, yeah.
Cointel Pro.
Most people don't even know about it, which just goes to show you how well the media covers up their own propaganda, right?
I mean, people don't know about that.
And if you think that there aren't people today doing the exact same thing, well, now who's being naive, Kay?
So here is Michael Cohen, and he's going to tell you in the Steele dossier, the dossier that was funded, by the way, by the Clinton campaign, and they lied for a year straight that say they didn't fund it, and then they finally admitted they did.
But I thought only Trump lied.
Isn't that weird?
Funny how that works.
Isn't that weird?
This spy, Michael Steele, talked to people inside the Kremlin to get dirt on Donald Trump.
Isn't that weird?
Because that's what I was told Donald Trump did.
In the dossier, it claims that he was in Prague making some payments on Trump's behalf to pay off some.
Well, he's going to debunk that.
Have you ever been to Prague?
I've never been to Prague.
Never have.
I've never been to the Czech Republic.
Why is that interesting?
Okay, I'll tell you again.
The question of whether Cohen has been to Prague pertains to the segment of Christopher Steele's dossier that said Cohen's phone signal was picked up on a cell phone tower in the Czech Republic back in 2016.
So why is that interesting?
So who cares if he was there?
Well, the cited intelligence report suggests that Cohen was there to meet with Kremlin agents and pay off hackers who were working against Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign and covering Trump's tracks on Russia.
So what the story is about that in the Steele dossier, that's proof of collusion because Trump's lawyer went there to pay off these Kremlin agents for doing the hacking.
But it turns out he was never in.
He was never there.
That never happened.
For an example of the wild speculation that the Prague claim, which Cohen has now denied on the record, sparked.
Here's Rachel Maddow wondering if he got reimbursed by Trump for meeting with Russian hackers in Prague.
I look forward to the update that this one didn't pan out.
So you want to watch a little bit of that?
Because I want to watch a little bit of that.
And for that, for the illegal payoff, he also asked the Trump organization to pay him back $50,000 for, quote, tech services.
And prosecutors say in the criminal information that that $50,000 claim, quote, in fact, Cohen had solicited from a technology company during and in connection with the campaign.
Michael Cohen supposedly wasn't part of the campaign at all.
So under what circumstances would he have been spending a nice round $50,000 on something tech-related that in fact was for the campaign that he would later seek reimbursement From reimbursement for, from the Trump organization.
He sought that reimbursement for that $50,000 in tech expenditures right alongside the reimbursement he was already getting from them for his illegal cash payoff to Stormy Daniels, the one that he's now going to do prison time for.
We don't know that $50,000 was that Michael Cohen laid out to benefit the campaign, and then he was paid back for by the Trump organization.
We don't know what that was.
But I will note for the record.
Just because you should note this is out there, that what Michael Cohen is accused of in the Steele dossier is meeting with Kremlin representatives in August and September 2016 to discuss, quote, deniable cash payments to operatives who are participating in the anti-Clinton hacking campaign organized by the Russian government.
So what Rachel Maddow is quoting is materials ginned up during a campaign.
She's quoting from a campaign document, basically.
Is that what she's doing?
Yeah, it was paid for by the DNC and written by this former British spy who claims to have all these high-level Russian sources alleging a grand Trump-Russia conspiracy.
And this has been, actually, even the FBI used this as part of their investigation into Trump in Russia.
They used this, which was campaign material, basically.
To obtain a FISA warrant on Carter Page, who was a volunteer for the Trump campaign.
And it sustained so much media coverage.
This is just opposition research.
That's really what this is, right?
This is paid for.
And when you say the DNC paid, the Clinton campaign didn't pay for this too.
The DNC and the Clinton campaign law firm was running the DNC.
That's right.
That's part of the problem, too.
It's ironic that they were rigging the actual election, that they're trying to get information that shows that someone else was rigging the, isn't that a one of many ironies here that, yes, for all this talk about elections not being on the up and up and being rigged, the fact is this came in an election where, as we know, the DNC and the Clinton campaign colluded against Bernie Sanders.
That's correct.
She does this whole, this whole thing, this whole segment.
They got him.
They got him.
Quote, according to Redacted, the agenda comprised questions on how deniable cash payments were to be made to hackers who had worked in Europe under Kremlin direction against the Clinton campaign and various contingencies for covering up those operations.
So he was there to discuss how to pay for the Russian hacking effort, according to the Steele dossier.
If that really happened, is that something you might build to the Trump organization as tech services alongside the porn star payoff that you build to the Trump organization as legal retainer?
This is forgivable if this was the one segment she did like this, where it was all based on, well, if this happened and maybe so, and if he fit, her whole show has been like this for an hour every night for the last two and a half years.
Well, if that's true, if that really did happen, then that means this.
And it could probably mean this too.
It's been one fucking nonstop conspiracy theory.
And no one ever, she doesn't get in trouble for being a conspiracy theorist.
She's the biggest conspiracy theorist I've ever seen in my life.
This is amazing.
This has been the pattern for the last two years.
So some claim will come out.
The people who are peddling this conspiracy theory use it as fodder for their latest round of speculation.
Claims that fuel the conspiracy theory, fuel the news cycle for a few days.
And then information comes out like the subject of this particular claim, Michael Cohen, denying on the record today that he was ever in Prague, which basically then obliterates endless hours of cable news coverage, of which Maddow has only been a part.
She's not even the only one.
No, no, no.
She's just the worst example.
She's just the worst of it.
She's the highest paid conspiracy.
And so somebody will say watching this video, well, why do you believe Michael Cohen?
How do you not know he's lying now?
Well, because he's on his way to jail for lying to Congress already right now.
And he knows that Mueller would know if he's lying again right now.
Mueller knows if he was actually in Prague or not.
Don't you think?
Yeah, and if he was in Prague, he'd have a great way to get out of jail because he could tell Mueller and he could testify and he'd definitely.
He would get immunity.
Oh my God.
Yeah, he'd be like the witness of all witnesses.
He would turn state's evidence against Trump.
He would get immunity for it.
Sure.
And then we would have budget.
But that's not happening.
Of course not, because all this is based on a crazy conspiracy theory.
And the only reason that it's taken seriously is because millionaire cable news hosts like Rachel Maddow and the whole industry basically have lost their minds.
They've doubled down on this and they can't let go of it.
And so today, when Michael Cohen shoots it down, I don't think we'll be seeing any correction or update from Rachel Maddow.
No, no, we will not.
We will not.
We will not be seeing, like we were just talking off camera, they're already moving the goalposts.
They're already saying this isn't about collusion.
This does never break about collusion.
It's happening right now.
So yesterday when we had lunch, he said, Jimmy, are you getting ready to take a victory lap?
I'm like, that will be, that victory lap will be unsponsored.
And no one's going to acknowledge it.
They're not, and they're not.
I saw you had a conversation with yesterday, and it went exactly how Kyle Kalinsky's conversation went.
It's this, you know, it's unsatisfying.
It's ultimately unsatisfying because no one will ever, it's an unfalsifiable theory.
You say, what's your biggest best evidence of this collusion?
And then you knock it down.
They don't acknowledge you knock it down and then they just move on to another thing that you knocked down that they're not going to acknowledge you knocked down.
So you're referring to, so I spoke yesterday to Chenk of the Young Turks.
He had me on, which I really appreciated.
And we had a really, I think, constructive dialogue about it.
I thought it was ballsy of Jenk to have you on because you know your shit about this in the side and out.
And so he did bring you on.
That's exactly what the Young Turks were supposed to do.
They're supposed to bring on alternative voices, and it was really good to see him bring you up.
And I really appreciated it.
And it's interesting, you know, it's important because I think we're all on the same side here.
We want to see Trump defeated in 2020.
See, that's the thing.
We're all on the same side.
Yeah.
But the problem is there has been this split.
And you and I, Jimmy, have been some of the few people saying that, I mean, for many reasons, this Trump-Russia conspiracy theory is not the way to go, including for the fact that it's baseless.
It's based on nothing.
And I think that continues to be borne out.
It's not just a disagreement over, well, so you guys, there are real ramifications to pushing RussiaGate that are negative, horribly negative.
And that's why it's so catastrophic and why I get so worked up trying to fight and push back against it.
I don't know if that's why you do.
I'm in it for the same reasons that you are.
I totally agree.
It's been catastrophic.
And it's been frustrating to push back on it and to get, you know, to meet such resistance to reality, you know, to like get people to acknowledge that they're basically buying into a conspiracy theory that might be comforting on the surface because it challenges Trump and it would be great if it turns out he's a secret Russian agent and all this could go away.
But that's just not how life works.
And all the evidence, as we've been tirelessly showing, is just not there for it.
And the fact that now so many prominent RussiaGate peddlers, right, like Rachel Maddow, are moving the goalposts, you know, trying to talk about how this is not, after saying for two years, it's the beginning of the end, now they're saying it's the end of the beginning.
You know, like literally, like that was a header last night.
That was a graphic on Maddow's show this week.
It's the end of the beginning.
Yeah, I saw that.
The end of the beginning.
Oh, my God.
But it's about, you know, it's about trusting in the common sense of viewers, you know, and of people who can think for themselves and assess the evidence on its merits.
And that's why conversations within the left are so important.
And I appreciated Jenk giving the chance to do that.
I think one element that I heard discussed yesterday that really Trump isn't the first American president to meet alone with another leader of another country.
Can you highlight that again?
Well, that's the thing.
It's like part of this, part of Russia Gate comes out of the fact that you had national security state officials who launched this whole probe being alarmed that Trump was basically saying nice things about Russia or talking about wanting to have better relations with Russia, which is like, you know, heresy to some members of the national security state.
And I think that motivates a large part of the efforts to pin Trump down with the Trump-Russia investigation, at least amongst certain sectors of the national security state.
And so, and so when Trump now meets privately with Putin, you know, it's been deemed this horrible thing that they've met privately.
And basically, what it basically means is that diplomacy with Putin has been criminalized.
And I was just pointing out with Jenk that it's not unprecedented for a president to meet privately with the Russian leader.
Reagan did it with Gorbachev.
And the result of that private session was that we got basically a huge reduction of nuclear weapons because it takes sometimes that face-to-face diplomacy to do that.
And in Trump's case, look, I mean, he's faced huge amounts of leaks from his own administration.
And I think he has every reason.
And the intelligence committee was undermining every meeting he had with Putin.
That's true.
Right before Helsinki, they dropped the indictment of the GRU officers.
And, you know, all this could just be a coincidence.
But there seems to be every time there are steps towards diplomacy or rapprochement with Russia, something happens.
In Syria, if you remember, after Obama reached a deal there to basically cooperate with Russia, you had an incident where the Pentagon, Syrian forces.
On purpose to undermine Obama.
I mean, we can't prove it for sure, but I mean, it's like, you know, there's a lot of speculation.
And I think it's fair speculation given the repeated history of what happens.
And so what Trump did in terms of meeting with Putin privately is not unprecedented.
It has a precedent.
And that precedent, I mean, insofar as we think that reducing the nuclear stockpile is a good thing, I mean, is a positive one.
And so it's not, you know, and the default into believe that then it means that Trump and Putin are discussing something illicit is just, I don't know what to say about it.
I mean, it's like, you know, like we can't, I can't prove that Putin didn't give Trump orders, but, right?
Because you can't like because you can't prove that something didn't happen.
So anything is possible, but we need to look at the evidence in front of us.
And sometimes, you know, the explanation doesn't have to be a nefarious one.
It could just be very simple that Trump is just following a precedent of meeting privately with a Russian leader.
And here it is.
There you go.
Reagan Gorbachev, take private walk by the lake, blackout imposed on press.
Nobody said that Ronald Reagan was compromised.
There's precedent for it.
There's actually precedent for it.
And actually, there's precedent for good things happening when the heads of state talk to each other in private.
And, you know, and the irony now is, of course, so with all the speculation, oh, is Putin giving Trump orders?
Are they in cahoots?
Well, in real life, Trump is overseeing the dismantlement of the nuclear arms control that Reagan and Gorbachev worked out privately, withdrawing from the INF treaty, which came out of those talks between Reagan and Gorbachev.
But we ignore that.
And so basically, we ignore that because we want to believe this conspiracy theory.
When meanwhile, Trump is just following whoever in his administration told him to carry out this extremely reckless act of undoing a key pillar of nuclear arms control.
And so it'd be a good thing if there were more talks between Trump and Putin, because maybe, just maybe, you know, something good could come out of it.
But instead, them even talking becomes criminalized and we want to use it as fodder for a conspiracy theory instead of looking at the developments that are actually happening, which literally could lead to human annihilation.
Now, when you told Jenk about this, how did he take it?
I think, you know, I think he might have just moved on to the next topic.
I mean, I don't have the video in front of me, but we went through a lot of topics and I, you know, but I thought it was a polite conversation.
No, it was a very polite conversation, and he was open.
He let you talk and everything.
And it was good that you guys had that on the Young Turks.
And, you know, I just wish, like, like when James Risen had that debate with Glenn Greenwald, and I just, that was also, it felt unsatisfying.
And I just wish there was like, you know, like a scorekeeper or a referee, right?
That, that would be nice.
So, because otherwise, it, anyway, it just felt unjust unsatisfying.
But anyway, I had James Risen on the real news and he hung up on me.
I know, I saw that.
He said to you, he goes, oh, are you one of those guys that nothing will convince you?
No evidence will convince you that there's collusion.
And I think you said, no, any evidence would be nice.
And then he just hung up.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
So James Risen is a Pulitzer Prize winner.
And boy, he's really, really writing on that because this work he's doing now is horrible.
It is horrible.
It's pretty bad.
Yeah.
Look, it's the master of the Senate.
Chuck Schumer's on the phone.
Hello.
Oh, my Lord.
Land's sakes alive.
How are we ever going to pay for it?
How?
What are you talking about, Chuck?
Those horribly rude kids, those hoodlums, those bullies.
For God's sake, leave Die-Fi alone.
Those spawn of Satan, they attacked her.
Did you see the video with a complete video?
Oh, you mean Diane Feinstein when she got confronted by those kids?
Yeah, I saw the whole thing.
Those evil seeds, no doubt on drugs, popped up on Benny's and black beauties and such.
I thought.
You really have to watch the whole video, Jimmy.
Not just the part where Diane acts like a complete ogre who could care less about the extinction of the human race.
But, you know, the good parts.
They left out the good parts.
My God, my God.
Those kids were so mean.
Yeah, I saw the whole thing.
And I don't know what you're talking about.
It was heart-wrenching.
I haven't seen such visceral hatred since Dylan went electric.
You know, that's interesting, Chuck, because a lot of people saw that confrontation differently.
But did you see the whole video?
Yes, and I really don't see any redeeming moments there.
No.
Those devil babies.
Did you see how they surrounded Diane like she was a wounded deer?
Their mouths watering, foaming with rage.
At one point, I swear to God, chairs were thrown.
They threw a chair at Diane Feinstein.
You have to look closely.
Chairs were thrown.
Did you watch the whole video?
They surrounded her.
She was just Standing there peacefully, and they surrounded her and asked her things.
What was wrong with American children simply telling a politician the truth about the drastic action needed to fight climate catastrophe?
Wow.
A2, Jimmy.
Those kids are justifiably worried about their future, Chuck.
Why is that so outrageous?
They're being unfair.
Show some respect for your elders.
Diane is old.
She doesn't need to be bothered.
The world's not going to collapse until well after her frozen head gets filed next to Ted Williams.
But do you trust her to take the drastic action needed to fight climate catastrophe?
Did you see the whole tape?
That's the point.
What has she been doing?
These barbarians, these mutant mob cops, these youths.
They just arrive at a public place and start asking people questions.
Is that the way it is now?
Is that what we've become?
Somebody should have washed those kids' mouths out with soap and fracking water.
They're just demanding real action from their public servants.
They want a Green New Deal.
Look, for every young person we lose to asthma, we'll pick up another two old white men in the Senate because we inserted some shit about not using their mansions as homeless shelters once the floods happen.
Look, Diane and I have been working on this issue for 30 years.
We know what we're doing.
Then why are we now at the point where we only have 10 years left?
Because we don't have a fucking clue what we're doing.
But Earth is running out of time, Chuck.
We need something bold.
I know.
Would you like an internship?
I'll get you an internship.
Brad, get this man an internship.
Jimmy Doerr, is it?
One or two M's.
Will I get a stipend?
Stipend?
Oh my God, how will we ever pay for it?
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Hello.
Jimmy, guess who this is?
I'll give you two guesses.
Go on, guess.
Liam Neeson.
Got it on the first try.
Give the man a balloon.
Guess what?
What?
I am definitely not still hunting black men on the streets.
I would hope not, Liam.
Yes, Jimmy.
That was a long time ago.
Right.
I'm not doing that anymore.
It was just a phase I was going through.
Like puberty.
Well, that's good.
Don't get me wrong.
I learned a lot.
It was definitely a teaching moment.
A journey of terrible discovery.
Well, can you tell us what you've learned?
Yes.
Don't promote a new film by telling the world you once hunted black people.
Pretty straightforward there.
Well, I guess that just makes sense, huh?
Jimmy, you know that guy who stockpiled all those guns and wanted to kill all those Democrats and newscasters and whatnot?
Yeah, pretty horrible, yeah.
I'm nothing like that.
Yes.
You know who is like that, though.
Who?
The guy who did that.
Okay, but if you could speak to that guy, what advice would you give that guy right now?
I would tell him, listen very closely, because I don't have much time.
And I have a very specialized set of skills.
And then I tell him where the crash services table is and to load up on the salami.
Always bring a backpack with you to any production because sooner or later you're going to be the only one at that table.
And that's when you have to make a decision.
Can I sneak all the food into this backpack before anyone gets back?
Or will I go home alone?
I never go home alone, my friend.
So a lot of people are saying your career's in big trouble after you confess to roaming the streets looking for black men to kill.
Yes, Jimmy, my career is in great danger.
And it needs to listen very closely.
Would you say your career doesn't have much time?
Yes, and the next part is very important.
Career.
I need you to focus.
What should your career do next?
Go into the next room, get under the bed, and tell me when you're there.
Are you listening?
Yes, yes, I'm there.
Good.
The next part is very important.
They're going to take you.
Where?
I don't know, but you have five, maybe ten months before you start hanging out with Mel Gibson.
Hi, everybody.
Welcome to the Jimmy Dosho.
We're here with a special guest with us.
Joining us is Aaron Matte from The Nation Magazine.
Hi, Aaron.
How are you?
Hey, Jimmy.
And you made a great observation.
You read Andrew McCabe.
Now, if you don't know who Andrew McCabe is, he's the guy who was interviewed on 60 Minutes a week ago by Scott Pelley, and he was the former FBI deputy director.
I think he was actually the director for a little while.
And Andrew McCabe has written a book about his time working with Trump.
And in it, you cut.
I didn't read the book, right?
Because I've explained before, reading is hard and it hurts my head.
So I have to pick and choose what I'm going to read.
And I'm certainly not going to read Andrew McCabe's book, although I'm glad you did.
Because look what you found inside Andrew McCabe, the ex-FBI director's book, the guy who's Mr. Resistance Against Trump.
He writes in his book.
This is in that's a little screenshot you took of his book.
And here's what it says.
He says, and recounting a visit he had with Trump in 2017 inside the Oval Office, he said, quote, then the president, Mr. Trump, talked about Venezuela.
That's the country we should be going to war with, Trump said.
They have all that oil, and they're right on our back door.
That's in 2017.
That's before anybody was talking about Venezuela, as far as I can tell.
And Trump already was like, so what that sounds like to me, that sounds like mafia stuff.
That sounds like Tony Sobrano.
It's like, hey, look at the right there.
Hey, what's all our oil doing underneath your lane?
Venezuela.
Come on.
Come on.
We're going to make why.
How'd you get all our oil?
Now, listen, we're going to make an offer.
And I think you're going to like it.
Give us your oil.
How about that?
All right.
We're going to go in there or we do it the old-fashioned way, supporting a legal coup.
Don't make us do it that way.
It takes longer.
Yeah, did you see what happened to Mo Mar Gaddafi?
First, we take your weapons, then we stick a bayonet up.
And so that's really mafia stuff, right?
So that's, and that's us.
That's the United States.
That's the leader of the free world, Donald Trump.
And that's the FBI guy putting that in his book to show what a mafia maniac guy that guy is.
Right?
I'm watching CNN.
Yeah, I know it was an accident.
And I'm watching Don Lemon.
And he has on, this is the former United States ambassador to Paraguay, Panama, Panama, Panama, thank you.
Panama.
And listen to, so black is white, up is down, in is out.
Watch.
Are you concerned about the tensions between the United States and Venezuela escalating?
I'm enormously concerned.
Everybody should be concerned.
What we have in Venezuela is not a socialist, is not a communist.
We have a good old-fashioned mafioso thug who has systematically abused his people for the last five, six years, who has taken the richest country, according to resources, right?
The world's largest proven oil reserves, and turned it into the poorest.
Nine out of 10 Venezuelans live in poverty.
So yes, I am concerned, but I am also heartened, Don.
I'm heartened at the fact that the Trump administration is working multilaterally.
What Vice President Pence did today in Bogota with the Lima group was stand with all of these democracies in insisting that the humanitarian aid enter and in committing to the legit.
Up is down, black is white, in is out.
There's the former ambassador to Panama telling you that it's Maduro.
Maduro who's the mafia guy.
Not Trump, not Pence, not Elliott Abrams, not John Bolton, but Maduro, the guy who was elected and actually has all that oil.
And if he's such a dictator, this is how you know this is also.
So this guy's a paid liar.
He's just dumb.
He was hired because he's dumb.
If you will ever watch broadcast news, he's William Hurt.
That's who Don Lemon is.
This guy's not dumb.
He's a paid liar.
So he's lying to you in several different ways right now.
So what do you think when you watch something like this, Aaron?
Now, you've been to Venezuela.
I just came back.
Look, what you have in Venezuela, or at least what I saw, is a very polarized country.
You have a government that has a strong base of support and has for 20 years because the Chavista movement from Chavez to now Maduro has won 23 of the last 25 elections, which tells you that they have support.
And more than 6 million people voted in the last election last year for Maduro.
Now, the opposition, or at least part of the opposition, boycotted it.
And you have a lot of people, as I saw, who do not like Maduro.
And you even have some supporters of Chavez who've lost faith in Maduro.
So you have a complicated, polarized internal situation.
But what you don't have is the situation that someone like this guy just painted, where, first of all, he's erasing the fact that Venezuela has used its resources in the last 20 years, its oil wealth, the oil wealth that Trump wants to steal for the benefit of its own people.
And it's spent a lot of money on social programs that have cut extreme poverty by huge rates, have improved drastically literacy, that give people free food programs every single month, as I saw firsthand.
And also, you have millions of people participating in democratic ways that we can't imagine here.
So you have local councils that I visited where people get together, they voice criticisms of the government, but they also talk about solutions that they can come up with themselves in these communal councils.
And this narrative we get of Maduro as a dictator is erasing all of their voices.
And the reason why their voices are erased is because they're from lower classes and they're darker skinned.
And those are people who people like John Feely, whatever his name is, presumably views with contempt.
And that's why part of the reason why we're attacking Venezuela is because that's a country where they've tried to include the lower class people in their politics and not just let it be ruled by local and international elites.
Now, Greg Palace says there's a lot, there's a lot of racial divide actually in Venezuela between the whites and the darker skinned people.
Did you see any of that?
Definitely.
Like I went to an opposition rally where I didn't count every single face, but it's like it's very apparent that there is like a light-skinned opposition that has dominated Venezuelan politics for decades up until Chavez won in 1998 are very much a strong base of the opposition.
It's mostly more affluent, the opposition base.
Although, you know, the country, again, has grown more polarized.
So there are some lower class people that have become disenchanted with the government.
But yes, the racial and class divide, you have to see it really for yourself to get it.
But I definitely saw it.
And going into the barios and the lower income communities, definitely you sense just how much race is a thing here.
And that's why, you know, over the years, opposition media has been opposition-controlled media, which dominates the Venezuelan media system.
You hear racist, openly racist things, things like calling Maduro a guerrilla.
And Chavez was also subjected to all kinds of racial at-homes.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
But of course, we don't hear about that, A, because it paints the opposition in a bad light.
It shows them a lot of them to be racist, but also because it undercuts this theory or this narrative we hear about Venezuela being a dictatorship.
Because in fact, they have a huge private media system where they say things about the government that would never ever be allowed here.
And even though, by the way, in 2002, the opposition-controlled media played a huge part in the coup that overthrew Chavez.
They basically broadcast fake news.
The opposition carried out some shootings, which they then blamed on the government, which was a part of a plan.
It was a concerted plan.
And the opposition broadcast this, and this was all planned out.
And they used that to foment unrest.
Excuse me.
And the Bush administration picked up on that and used that to justify their backing of overthrowing Chavez.
It was propaganda, basically.
And they were forced to admit later on.
I believe even a CNN reporter said that before even the shootings had taken place that were blamed on the government, the opposition had already planned their speech, what they were going to say.
And the opposition media was a huge part of that.
And we don't hear about that, though, because it undercuts this narrative of Venezuela being a dictatorship, which is just not the case at all.
Yeah, they say if it's a dictatorship, if Maduro's a dictator, I say, what kind of dictatorships allow their opposition to give speeches in public squares without being arrested?
Huge rallies.
I went to one where Juan Guaido, the guy who the U.S. has declared the president, he's declared himself the president.
He's there speaking to a huge crowd.
I didn't really see any police around.
He's calling Maduro a motherfucker.
Everyone's chanting along.
It's a great time.
I mean, you know, there are certainly internal issues in Venezuela.
There's an economic crisis.
You can say all sorts of criticisms of the Maduro government.
They've made mistakes, but to call it a dictatorship is just propaganda.
And it speaks to the contempt that these people have for Venezuelans who want to chart their own course.
And that's why they're being attacked.
So Jorge Ramos, you know him as the guy that Trump had thrown out of a press conference in 2016 because he asked questions out of turn.
He wouldn't wait his turn to ask questions.
And so he got thrown out.
And now he just came back from Venezuela where he was confronting Maduro, right?
So he works for Univision.
Here's a video he showed.
He took video of people eating out of garbage trucks out of a garbage truck in Venezuela.
And apparently he showed it.
So this is.
So you see this?
This is the video.
Aaron, have you seen this video?
I have seen this video.
And, you know, I was just in Venezuela.
And, you know, I saw people digging through the garbage.
It's always sad to see.
But to suggest, as the media has, that this is like uniquely emblematic of what's going on in Venezuela when it's happening all over the world.
I mean, I'm in L.A. right now.
I haven't been here in a while.
And I was shocked.
Shocked, right?
The homeless encampments just on many streets.
On every corner and under every bridge.
You go downtown.
It's like Mad Max down there.
See, I was going to say, I see this pretty much every day.
Every day I see this in Los Angeles.
So he's pretending that this is only happening in Venezuela.
Or he's also pretending that this is what's happening everywhere in Venezuela.
Exactly.
So imagine a Venezuelan journalist coming to the U.S., filming the homeless encampments in L.A., people on the street, and then using that, confronting Donald Trump with that, and then using, and then the Venezuelan media using that as part of a propaganda war to install Nancy Pelosi or somebody as president.
So it's like, sure, I mean, poverty everywhere is terrible, but like to use this for propaganda purposes is really shameful.
It exploits the people who they filmed.
And it's just, and it is also acting as basically an arm of regime change.
Yes.
And it's, that's, there's something really, it's just despicable.
So there's a lot of pieces that are missing from this image as well, you know, because they're not examining the sanctions against Venezuela.
Right, right.
So again, what a big part of what led to Venezuela's economic problems is two-pronged.
The United States sanctions on them.
And remember, sanctions aren't there to help the people or bring democracy.
Sanctions are imposed on a country to bring that country to its knees so then we can then install our own leaders.
That's what it's there for.
And then our corporations can take their natural resources.
You know that Venezuela has more oil than Saudi Arabia.
So as soon as I heard that, I knew Trump had to bring them some democracy.
Jorge Ramos went down and did straight up propaganda.
And you know how I know it?
Watch him.
He's going to be outed by Max Blumenthal.
Because I don't know if you know that Marco Rubio has also been pushing for regime change, just like the people pushing to go into Iraq.
Oh, Saddam's a bad guy.
They're doing the same thing in Venezuela.
The people want to go in and overthrow Maduro so we can get their oil.
Jorge Ramos is pushing that same propaganda.
So when asked about, he's going to ask him, hey, are you going to confront?
Because he confronted Maduro.
That was his big thing.
He confronted Maduro.
And he plans to confront Marco Rubio about his threat to kill Nicolas Maduro by posting pictures of him and Gaddafi.
And he plans to confront Marco Rubio about his threats of military invasion or to confront Donald Trump about the sanctions on Venezuela.
So what Max is revealing here by this question is you're saying that you're a courageous journalist because right there, he's got a bunch of sycophants sitting around him and he's talking about how I confronted Maduro.
And he's like, well, are you going to confront the Trump administration on trying to do a regime change war?
Are you going to confront Marco Rubio for trying to do a regime change war?
Are you going to confront these people here?
Or are you pushing a narrative, Jorge Ramos?
And it turns out Jorge Ramos is pushing a narrative because he's not going to confront those people about that.
Watch.
What I can tell you is that many people here in the United States supporting what we were doing and that Marco Rubio, Vice President Pence, and many others were supporting what we were doing over there.
So his response to that question of, are you going to push back on our own government about wanting to do another?
He's like, no, they're supporting what we're doing.
Pence.
He's now bragging that he's working with Pence, Trump, Elliot Abrams, John Bolton.
They're supporting what he did.
That's his answer to the question.
Are you going to do journalism back here in the United States?
His answer to that was the United States government supports us.
That's the wrong answer, Jorge.
Guess what?
You just revealed, Jorge?
That you don't have any integrity and you're a fucking maniac pushing another war and you're doing it under the guise of journalism.
And guess what?
We just caught you.
I was on the Twitter today and I saw this.
There's a guy named Yoel Roth and he is the head of site integrity at Twitter.
Did you know that?
I did not know that.
There's a thing called site integrity and he's the head.
He's the head guy.
Okay.
Site integrity.
And he's a smarty pants.
He went to Annenberg Penn.
That's pretty.
Aren't you going to have to be smart to get in there?
Or legacy, right?
One or the other.
One or the other, yeah.
Right.
So he's probably smart.
Is that where Trump went?
Where did Trump go?
Trump did go to Pennsylvania.
I went to Walton.
Yeah.
Wharton School of Business at Penn.
Yeah.
There we go.
There you go.
So legacy, smart.
So anyway, I was watching it.
And so we've, and we've showed you at this show that the company called New Knowledge was actually the ones that were giving all the information to the Senate Intelligence Committee.
And then all the newspapers were writing stories about Russia Gate and Russian bots on the internet.
And it was coming from this company called New Knowledge.
And then it got found out that New Knowledge was actually inventing fake Russian bots and pretending that other politicians were doing it.
And then they were going to sell you the solution to it.
So it's been one big propaganda thing and it gets clicks just like war does.
Why is war always popped through with it?
Gets a lot of views, clicks, sells newspapers.
And so that got sped around.
And so that's why, that's what's been really going on, by the way, with this.
Russia has not taken over control of our elections through Facebook memes.
That is not happening, okay?
Or through bots.
In fact, the most evidence we have is that those bots were invented by the very people claiming there were bots.
That's that company, New Knowledge.
New knowledge, by the way, they don't talk about this in the press either.
New knowledge got kicked off.
The guy who runs it got kicked off Facebook because he got caught inventing fake Russian bots.
But nobody ever tells you that.
You know, when they smeared Tulsi Gabbard at NBC News, they said Russian bots are the Russian activity is supporting Tulsi online?
They used that company, New Knowledge, that invented fake Russian bots.
And they never told you that they did that.
NBC, I mean.
That's why the news sucks in America and why we have a show.
And so now here, over to this guy, head of site integrity at Twitter.
He's got a PH freaking D, and he uses it for site integrity on Twitter.
That's what he's using his PhD for.
That's fantastic.
I mean, somebody's got to do it, right?
Someone's got to do it.
And I'm sure it's high paid.
I'm sure it's high-paid, right?
He's the head guy.
All right.
So he gets, so I see this today.
He says, I don't know if you can read this.
I'll read it to you.
He says, over the weekend, Josh Emerson brought to our attention some inconsistencies in the information operation data sets we recently released.
We appreciate his feedback and want to share an update on what we've learned.
You want to know what they learned, Aaron?
In this case, we initially misidentified 228 accounts as connected to Russia.
As our investigations into their activity continued, we uncovered additional information, allowing us to more confidently associate them with Venezuela and soon to be associated with Iran.
And then maybe Nicaragua.
Isn't it crazy how the bots are always from official enemy countries?
Official enemy countries.
What are the odds?
Not Saudi Arabia or Israel or Turkey.
They're all from our official enemies.
What are the odds?
They're not even from the United States.
They're not from our Pentagon, which they've already admitted in 2011 they do this exact thing.
That's right.
That's right.
Oh, you got it.
They just, oh, too bad you guys, you missed it by that much.
Missed it by that much.
I don't know if you remember.
My friend, that's Maxwell Smart.
Would you believe Iran?
This guy says, well, isn't that convenient?
A movable boogeyman data set.
Exactly right.
Exactly right.
Isn't that convenient?
This guy goes, I go, all jokes aside, Yule seriously sounds like a ghost hunter.
That's just this dissertation.
You gotta read it.
Ph.D., PH freaking D. Ph.D. He goes, we established our public information operation data archive to encourage research and empower analysis of these subjects by people outside of Twitter.
This is a powerful example of why a transparency-first approach improves everyone's understanding, including our own.
For the latest updates on a reference and to access these data sets, visit our election integrity hub.
Our election integrity hub got 228 bots wrong.
You know, Jimmy, this is an underrated aspect of the Russia Gate racket because what it is, is it's a jobs program.
It is.
This guy has a job doing this.
Like you go to Penn, you have an expensive, a fancy-sounding PhD, and you need to justify it in some way.
And you also need a job.
And so RussiaGate has provided, it's been like a cottage industry.
All these think tanks and data analytic things.
It's a jobs program.
And it's like, you know, on the one hand, it's like capitalizing on a general human need to do fulfilling work.
You know what I mean?
It's the people all want to do fulfilling work.
And that's what it is for this whole subset of people who like drink the Kool-Aid and then get to go and get paid lots of money to study Russian bots.
Not because Russian bots are any actual threat to anybody or even if Russian bots exist because we don't even, because basically, as you pointed out, the Russian bots are sometimes concocted by the very people supposedly investigating them.
Yes.
But because warning us about Russian bots serves a narrative.
It keeps us scared of Russia and the people who profit off of tensions with Russia make a lot of money, like weapons manufacturers and foreign governments who.
And new knowledge will sell you protection from Russian bots.
Yeah, so it's a racket.
And people with fancy PhDs get to yield the benefits.
Unfortunately, the rest of us suffer because we have to deal with stuff like this.
I know.
Yeah, I mean, what New Knowledge did was just shady sales 101.
Hey, we got the solution to this problem that you don't know you have.
Yeah.
Yes.
Oh, you didn't know you have.
Oh, there's, I knew a guy who would sell people radon gas detectors in their house.
Like, dude, you know what?
Radon gas is radon gas.
It's probably have cancer.
Do you have anybody in your house have cancer?
And then you would sell them these detectors.
It's no different.
And how do they even know if they work?
How do you even know if a radon gas detector works?
It is no different.
It is no different.
It's a racket.
And, you know, yet it's become a very profitable one.
You know, and that's why, you know, new, you know, it's like, it's also for people.
You know, by the way, they also don't tell you that new knowledge, it's staffed entirely by people with, who all used to work with the U.S. government.
Yeah, from the State Department and things like that, or the CIA or the intelligence community or the Pentagon.
Yeah.
So you work in government for a bit.
You want to get out.
You want to make some money.
You just leverage your contacts.
Now you're a contractor.
And now they got to gig with the Senate Intelligence Committee.
They're going to write their report on Russian bots.
That's right.
And who are these guys?
We're from the State Department.
We're experts.
Institutions that have never stared you wrong before.
It's a great hustle.
It is.
And that's what RussiaGate is.
It's a great hustle.
And if you're pushing RussiaGate and you're not getting anything out of it, well, then you're just a fucking idiot.
Hello.
Guess who this is?
I'm going to guess Ohio Senator Sherrod Brown.
Have you heard my voice?
It's Grammlly.
A gravelly voice is a sign of sincerity and strength.
With this voice, you can say just about any stupid shit and get away with it.
Allowing a buy-in to Medicare is better than Medicare for all.
We can't afford Medicare for all honesty.
Yeah, I see what you mean.
The voice has a life of its own.
Wait, did you just say we can't afford Medicare for all?
Yeah, see how that works?
I almost believed you.
Hey, you know there's a lot more to that phone call, but we don't have time in today's podcast.
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Today's show was written.
That's right.
It was written by Frank Connoff, Jim Earl, Ron Placone, Steph Semurano, and Mark Van Landowicz.
All the voices today performed by the one and the only the inimitable Mike McRae, who can be found at mikemcray.com.
That's it for this week.
You be the best you can be, and I'll keep being me.
Don't freak out.
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