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	Get ready for an outstanding entertainment program.
	The Jimmy Dore Show.
	Wow, Bernie Sanders is on the phone.
	I hope he's going to announce his run for president.
	Jimmy, I want to say for the first time anywhere on your show that I am announcing my candidacy for the office of President of the United States and its assorted environs.
	Bernie, it's very exciting to have you announced on our show.
	Yes.
	Now I fully realize that other news media organizations such as the AP Reuters and the Weekly Reader will scoop you on this.
	But I understand you're still using real-to-reel recording devices, and it takes a week or two to edit your shows down for broadcast.
	Right.
	Let there be no mistake.
	You heard it here first, brothers and sisters.
	I'm throwing my disheveled lid-covered hat into the ring.
	Great.
	We're all for it, buddy.
	You must understand, Jimmy.
	I'm running for president.
	I am asking you to join me today as part of an unprecedented and historic grassroots campaign that will begin with at least 1 million people from across the country.
	I've already contributed.
	Great.
	You think you could maybe double it?
	Maybe two bucks this time, hot shot.
	Hey, I gave more than two bucks this time.
	Well, you got to remember, I got to pay my handlers and my life coach Rex.
	Oh, and the guy who runs the omelette bar in my studio.
	I've got expenses, Bernie.
	Give me a break.
	But are you in?
	I just said I was in.
	Jimmy, I don't think I can stress the importance of this movement any more than I have already.
	In the time it just took to prove what a cheapskate you are, my campaign raised another $12 million from small donors.
	Wow.
	Mostly from kids breaking into that piggy banks.
	Kids really care about their futures more than their parents.
	That's because most parents feel like hanging themselves after nine years of putting up with give me this, give me that.
	I need a glass of water.
	I want a new iPhone.
	Being a parent is off the charts now, Jimmy.
	We have to get back to the basics of life.
	Clean water, clean air, economic justice, and a room you can call your own that you can fart freely in.
	While you already have more of a campaign platform than Kamala Harris does, and you've only announced it's only been a matter of minutes.
	Don't talk to me about Harris.
	I've seen better platforms under the Twin Towers.
	Right now, my contribution numbers are exploding faster than Honey Boo-Boo's carp counter.
	Yeah, I'm with it.
	I just made a honey boo-boo reference in your face, Betto.
	I'll jog down an escalator, crush your skateboard, tear your little playhouse down.
	Those memes of me looking shredded in a Superman suit, that was the real deal, Buster Brown.
	Don't you fucking forget it.
	I'm late for nunchuck class.
	You can finish this conversation on your own.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	It's the Jimmy Door Show.
	The show for blackbase.
	The kind of people that are.
	Comments maybe on Tearing Down Our Nation.
	It's the show that makes Anderson Cooper save.
	It's hard to talk to you today.
	And now, here's a guy who sounds a lot like me.
	It's Jimmy Dore.
	Hi, everybody.
	Welcome to this week's Jimmy Dore show.
	We'll see you May 3rd in Burbank, California and May 12th in Tempe, Arizona.
	Get your tickets now.
	All live dates are at JimmyDoorComedy.com.
	Now let's get to the jokes before we get to the jokes, shall we?
	Hey, did you hear Bernie Sanders just announce he's running for president in 2020 and his t-shirts have his policy ideas on them?
	Kamala Harris is so mad she didn't think of this first because she could have been selling blank t-shirts this whole time.
	Am I right?
	Come on.
	Hey, did you hear Kirsten Gillibrand's campaign event was interrupted by a woman looking for ranch dressing?
	That was an actual headline in the hill.
	Here's my headline for the same event.
	Gillibrand campaign event interrupted by Nation just trying to get some health care.
	Hey, did you hear NASA says that the first human trip to other planets will need a comedian to help the team deal with the long months of isolation?
	There are some advantages as a comedian to that gig.
	First, it's impossible to walk the crowd.
	And technically, no one can accuse you of dropping your pants because there's zero gravity.
	Disadvantages, you're going to hear the same.
	Boy, Earth and Mars are different bit every week.
	Did you hear in the first 24 hours of his candidacy?
	Bernie Sanders raised over $5.9 million from 225,000 individual donors, averaging $27 a piece.
	Wow, that's like having a dinner and a Chardonnay with Hillary.
	Am I right?
	Come on.
	Hey, if you don't think Trump's national emergency speech, along with its barbaric call to execute drug dealers, isn't the logical end result of the legacies of our last five presidents, well, then I have a John Kelly's The Adult in the Room bridge to sell you.
	Hey, did you hear the LA City Council just banned fur sales?
	Wow.
	Now I'm really taking a haircut on my Merkins.
	You know, establishment Democrats decry the prospect of a billionaire coffee seller buying the election, but they refuse to back the most popular politician in the country who ran on getting money out of politics.
	Not a big laughy haha, but still a good joke.
	You know, this fact-checking site I used to fact-check sites that fact-check fact-checking sites?
	That site just gave this joke three Pinocchios.
	You know, after I die, I want to live on through multiple social media platforms that I forgot the passwords to.
	Hey, what's coming up on today's show?
	Bill Maher proclaims his support for Trump's Venezuelan coup and the Monroe Doctrine.
	CNN and Facebook coordinate to censor yet another voice critical of the establishment.
	Plus, 70,000 strike in Mexico, and the workers are winning.
	That's a story you won't hear in the corporate news in America.
	Plus, a Canadian reporter actually goes to Venezuela and debunks the propaganda.
	Plus, we have phone calls this week from George Clooney, Vince Vaughan, Bernie Sanders, and a lot lot more.
	That's today on the Jimmy Dore Show.
	Here's a story about our social media people in conjunction with the government just deciding to deplatform people.
	Ronya Kalek, who's been a friend of our show, she's been on.
	She's been on to tell us the stuff about the Middle East and Syria.
	And she does these great videos for In the Now, it's called.
	And so she tweeted this out.
	Facebook has suspended all of In the Now's Facebook pages, apparently in coordination with CNN, on the grounds that In the Now doesn't disclose who funds it.
	Here's the article by CNN: Russia is backing a viral video company aimed at American millennials.
	Oh, geez.
	Oh, Jesus.
	I know.
	God damn it.
	By this point, it's like again.
	They're doing it again.
	This is by Daniel O'Sullivan, Drew Griffin, Kurt Devine.
	It took four motherfuckers to write a bullshit article.
	Four people to write this bullshit article.
	Isn't that amazing?
	Daddy O'S Dario, Daddy Ocean.
	When I grow up, I want to do propaganda for a corporation that pushes war and fires people for telling the truth about Israel.
	Well, you know.
	So what?
	No, I'm just, I'm curious.
	I don't remember off the top of my head, but some of those names look mildly familiar.
	Were they involved in the CNN smear of this?
	That's what I'm trying to Google right now, actually.
	I don't know.
	I don't recall.
	I don't know.
	I don't think so.
	I think these are fresh.
	These are fresh CNN propagandists.
	This is fantastic crap they're doing.
	This is amazing.
	You imagine you get into journalism, you end up doing this stuff.
	You end up writing pure propaganda for a corporation, and you end up actually printing things that hurt the people who come to you for information.
	You imagine that's what you do with your life.
	There are three online video channels designed to appeal to millennials, have collected tens of millions of views on Facebook since September.
	But the pages pushing the videos do not disclose they are backed by the Russian government.
	Okay.
	All right.
	I didn't know you had to put who funded you when you put up a video.
	I didn't know that because we have lots of different funders at this show.
	We have over 3,000 people who fund us through Patreon.
	We have probably another couple thousand people through PayPal.
	So we have a lot of people that fund our show.
	Do I have to name every one of them?
	Every time I put up a video, the pages are run by Mafic Media, a company whose majority stakeholder is Ruptly.
	They're a subsidiary of RT, which is funded by the Russian government.
	So Ruptly is a subsidiary of RT, and RT is funded by the Russian government.
	Although Mafic Media has hired contractors and freelancers in Los Angeles in recent months, the company is not registered in the United States.
	It is registered in Germany.
	An ally.
	So what they probably do, or what they probably did to justify this on their end, is when the FARA Act was enacted against RT America, which, by the way, why does the FARA Act exist in the first place?
	It existed to combat Nazis.
	They decided to use it again recently against RT and against, I believe, a Chinese outlet, Zhanghai News.
	So they probably did that.
	Like, oh, well, we can trace it back to RT.
	So we're going to employ the FARA Act here and use this to kick them off of Facebook.
	So we'll get this, Ron.
	Facebook suspended the pages on Friday, saying it would reach out to the people running them to ask that they disclose where the pages are run from and their affiliation with their parent company in order to get back on the platform.
	Here's the really, really interesting part.
	Here's the really interesting part.
	The move was unusual for Facebook.
	Why was it unusual?
	Well, the company doesn't require users to provide information of its parent companies.
	So you don't even have to do that.
	And they decided to just take their page down anyway, preemptively.
	Hey, we have a new rule we didn't tell you about.
	Oh, by the way, in the meantime, you're in solitary confinement.
	So Jack from Twitter was just on Joe Rogan a week ago, and he said that he thought social media was a right.
	The guy who runs Twitter said social media is a right.
	Well, if the president is there, if the whole country's there and you can't, the president can't block you.
	That's his town square.
	That's a public utility.
	So now they're all, again, I predicted this to happen.
	It doesn't take a dumb guy like me can see this coming.
	So that's why all the people pushing RussiaGate and shutting up about the censorship is disgusting that it has happening on the left.
	I'm meaning the shutting up part.
	They're not calling out Russia Gates, McCarthy smears of Tulsi Gabbard.
	They didn't scream bloody murder when the first 800 pages got purged from Facebook.
	They didn't scream when people, they're not screaming about this, about censorship being done in the dark.
	This is being done in the dark.
	They didn't.
	Do you see what it's in?
	It's in red.
	Facebook does not require users to provide information about parent companies, but it is rolling out ways to try and increase transparency.
	Transparency?
	How about transparency and who decides who gets free speech at Facebook?
	How about that kind of transparency?
	Transparency for you, but for them, opaque stuff, right?
	Darkness for Facebook, transparency for everybody else.
	It has been taking aggressive steps to tackle covert government-backed information.
	So they've been aggressively censoring people on bullshit information with double standards and rules that aren't even published.
	The Mafic media pages appear to have fallen into a gray area for this is CNN writing.
	They have fallen into a gray area in Facebook.
	What's that gray area?
	Well, the pages do not include information about their links to the Russian government, but they were not previously required to do it.
	So they just made up a new standard in the middle of the night and deplatformed people for it.
	Yeah, and they're going to be able to hide behind Farah.
	If they haven't done it already, that's what they're going to be able to do here.
	And that should have never been enacted.
	And we were one of the few shows to talk about that while it was going on and say how terrible it was.
	And I believe Ranya talked about it on this show.
	He talked about it with her.
	I can't believe how silent most of the lefty media has been on this.
	So here she is, and she talks about that.
	And let me just go back to, let me just set the stage.
	This is from Real News.
	This was an interview they did with Max and Blumenfall.
	This is what this is coming from, when they took away those first 800 pages.
	The corporate social media giants have begun purging huge alternative media outlets as part of a larger crackdown on political views that challenge mainstream politics and media.
	That's what this is.
	In early October, Facebook removed 800 pages and accounts targeting left-wing media outlets, libertarian pages, police transparency pages, and monitored police brutality and also anti-war pages.
	So this has already happened.
	We Covered it.
	Almost no one else did.
	Some of these pages, like the Free Thought Project, had millions of likes.
	A new report at the Gray Zone Project, which is GrayZoneProject.com, reveals how an influential neoconservative operative in Washington, D.C. has actually claimed at least partial credit for this unprecedented, precedented social media censorship by Facebook.
	This guy, Jamie Fly, who was a neoconservative in D.C., who has previously worked for Senator Marco Rubio and also previously was at the Defense Department under George W. Bush.
	Jamie Fly made the following remarks in which he claimed partial credit in an interview published by the Grey Zone Project.
	He claimed partial credit for these purges.
	So listen to this.
	He said, quote, so we're just getting started.
	We're just starting to push back.
	Just starting to push back.
	That was the 800 pages purged last October.
	So now here it goes again.
	We are just getting started.
	Just this last week, Facebook began starting to take down sites.
	So this is just the beginning.
	That is a quote from Jamie Fly, a neoconservative in D.C. He is a senior fellow and director of the Asia program at the influential D.C.-based think tank, the German Marshall Fund.
	The German Marshall Fund.
	Well, where have I heard the German Marshall Fund before?
	Oh, that's right.
	The German Marshall Fund has been pushing Russia Gate propaganda like at the top of their lungs and smearing Jeremy Corby as a Russian bot and an anti-Semite.
	That's with government money.
	Government money, they're smearing progressive politicians as Russian bots and anti-Semites.
	That's what the German Marshall Fund has been doing.
	And so now they're basing this stuff on from the German Marshall Fund has been instrumental in this latest in the now being purged from Facebook.
	The German Marshall Fund was created during the Cold War as a West German organization that worked with the United States.
	And actually, it is funded by the U.S. government and the German government.
	It also receives funding from NATO.
	So the German fund, so this is the government censoring people at Facebook.
	That's what this is telling you.
	Here we are talking about Truthdig, which I contribute to and was founded by Bob Scheer, who is one of the most renowned progressive journalists in the country.
	Counterpunch, very well-known left-wing alternative side, black commentator.
	We all know Glenn Ford, and he's been a frequent guest on the real news and sites like Free Thought Project and Antimedia, which were recently purged by Facebook.
	That's Max Blumenthal talking to the real news about the purges that they did already.
	These are not Kremlin-influenced accounts.
	They have no connection to Russia.
	These are what we are known of as our alternative media.
	So now this is the German Marshall Fund, the Atlantic Council.
	This is the government funding censorship.
	And if Jackum Twitter was right that social media is a right, they're taking away your rights in the dark of night without a clear standard and done by unnamed bureaucrats, unelected, unnamed billionaires in Silicon Valley.
	And all this is to drive off the evildoers who are challenging American state violence, like the websites that were recently purged by Facebook.
	So this whole thing ties into the Russiagate sham.
	Now they're put, so this is all part of it.
	And I love what he says about it.
	He goes, the idea behind the sham is you hype up the fear of Russian interference to carry out your real goal, which is taking place right now in real time before our eyes, which is to multiply American power and consolidate control of the national security state.
	I'm going to read that to you again.
	The real goal of the Russiagate thing and all the, all that, there's plenty of other different, it serves the purpose of the media because they get, they make more money off it, just like they make more money off war and make more money off Trump.
	It serves the Democratic Party because they don't have to examine how corrupt they were or change anything.
	It serves the media.
	Again, it serves every, it serves the intelligence community.
	It serves the military industrial compost.
	So RussiaGate serves a lot of people, but this sham, the whole goal of it, the goal of this is taking place right now in real time before our eyes, which is to multiply American power and consolidate control of the national security state.
	So if you're pushing Russia Gate mindlessly, breathlessly for the entire entirety of your news show, night after night, you're doing the work of the government.
	You're doing propaganda for the government.
	There's no fucking two ways about that, especially now that the Senate intelligence community has admitted there's absolutely no evidence of criminal collusion between Trump and Russia.
	Yet you still do this.
	You're doing propaganda.
	You're not alternative media.
	If you're not covering Tulsi Gabbard smear, if you're not covering the McCarthyite smears here, if you're not covering this, and if you're repeating RussiaGate, you are not alternative media.
	You are establishment mouthpieces pushing propaganda.
	What you should be doing is doing what Grey Zone Project does or the real news or what we do at this show is debunk this bullshit.
	The bipartisan national security state over these social media.
	So right now, I mean, let me just get back to this point.
	The real point, the real point of all of this is to multiply American power and consolidate control of the national security state, the bipartisan national security state.
	There is no anti-war party over these social media platforms, Facebook, Twitter, even Instagram, which represents our digital commons.
	So all this is to make sure that the security state has control over social media because they can't control.
	They got freaked out.
	Oh my God.
	Bernie Sanders freaked people out.
	They're screaming.
	Lefties are screaming CNN sucks.
	Righties are screaming CNN sucks.
	They're going to alternative media for their news.
	We can't have this.
	And that's what all this is about.
	So shame on all the lefties pushing RussiaGate.
	Shame on them forever.
	And here, this is another great quote from Max Blumenthal.
	He said, I was talking about how Russagate was going to create blowback.
	He says that it was going to make this country less democratic.
	It's another manufactured campaign of fear ginned up by neoconservatives as they did during the war on terror after 9-11 in order to de-democratize us and to control what we see and hear.
	And that's what's taking place on social media.
	It is the government once again censoring you and trying to control what you see and hear and ultimately What you think.
	This is thought control.
	This is the thought police.
	They're kicking people off not because of their funding, but because of what they're talking about.
	They're afraid of their ideas.
	This is the thought police, and everybody pushing RussiaGate is part of it.
	So here, I want to tell you who the German defense.
	So here, here's Ben Norton.
	He goes, this explosive scoop by Jeb Sprague and Max Blumenthal is confirmation that the social media purge of alternative media outlets is part of a government-backed political crackdown on dissident voices.
	And he links to the Gray Zone Project.
	And he says, a hardline neoconservative operative at the German Marshall Fund think tank, which is funded by the U.S. and German governments, said that within the mass purge of alternative media outlets, we are just starting to push back.
	This is the beginning.
	These are the government's doing.
	This is your government money is censoring people on social media.
	That's what's happening.
	Huh?
	And they're worried about Trump.
	Trump's the guy who's the maniac.
	Trump is the guy who's going to take my rights away.
	Trump is the guy who's going to suppress my free speech.
	I think this is a bipartisan effort.
	I think this is a bipartisan effort, which is why they're afraid of independent voices.
	The DC-based think tank, the German Marshall Fund, whose alliance for securing democracy helped popularize the absurd Russian bots are hacking our democracy scare, just so happens to be funded by NATO and the U.S. So there it is.
	So they, again, and he links to the, he shows you how they're funded by them.
	So that's where this is coming from.
	And CNN doesn't put that in their reports.
	Isn't that amazing?
	CNN leaves out all the important stuff, but they put in all the propaganda, all the propaganda to confuse you and control how you think.
	CNN puts that in.
	All the stuff that I just told you, they leave out.
	And now you know why CNN sucks.
	And now you know why they actually know who this show is and why they make a special effort to smear shows like this.
	That's who CNN is.
	And I can't wait for them to smear us again because it only makes us stronger.
	So let me throw it to my panel.
	So there they are taken down in the now.
	So by the way, Raynya Kalik says, this is weeks after CNN's digging around to dirt to find dirt on us.
	We then reached out to CNN and let them interview us, which felt more like a police interrogation.
	The interviewer didn't like my anti-war political views and even attacked my criticisms of Trump's coup in Venezuela.
	Let me go there.
	This is the case where the U.S. government has found a legal loophole to suppress speech.
	In this case, speech that is critical of destructive U.S. government policies around the world.
	Even if you hate what I say in my videos, you should be outraged by this speech suppression.
	And CNN should be ashamed for helping the U.S. government suppress speech they don't like.
	They claim to be for free speech and open media, but their behavior in coordinating with Facebook to shut down In the Now shows what BS that is.
	CNN isn't state media, but it sure acts like it.
	One more thing.
	Facebook suspended us on the grounds we don't disclose we receive funding from Rupley, whose parent company is RT.
	But this standard is not applied to NPR, AJ Plus, or TRT.
	It's discrimination, part of a McCarthy witch hunt.
	She also had one more.
	I can't find it.
	Oh, Chris is great.
	This is what I want to show you.
	On a side note, CNN kept asking if I have editorial control over In the Now.
	I do.
	The interviewer didn't believe me.
	So I asked where Mark Lamont Hill's editorial freedom was when CNN fired him for telling the truth about Israel occupation of Palestine.
	The response was crickets.
	So they work for CNN.
	I don't know how you can, as a journalist, in conscience, work for CNN when they fired Mark Lamont Hill for telling the truth about Israel.
	Just like I don't know how you can work for MSNBC when they fired Phil Donahue, Jesse Ventura, Ashley Banfield for telling the truth about war.
	And then they fired Ed Schultz for just covering Bernie Sanders.
	I don't know how in good conscience you can work for those organizations.
	So I don't know how you can work for CNN like that.
	I know how.
	Money, and you don't have a lot of character integrity.
	And you don't have the balls that we have at this show to stick our own shin out and do our own fucking show.
	You think you're such a good reporter?
	Do your own reporting.
	Why do you need CNN?
	Why do you need their platform?
	Start doing reporting.
	We're doing reporting here.
	We almost have 500,000 followers for a fucking Jagoff nightclub comedian.
	You know why?
	Because I see right through CNN.
	And so do they.
	People see right fucking through you.
	You're propagandists.
	You always have been and you always will be, which is why you smear people who tell the truth about war.
	Guys like Jake Tapper lie to us about healthcare.
	They say Medicare for all costs more than our current system.
	CNN is one big bullshit parade.
	And so anybody going to work there shows that they're not, they're interested in not really journalism.
	They're interested in having a job.
	So that's great.
	That's a great response.
	And that's why I'll never be on fucking CNN because I will bring that up.
	Just like I'll never be on MSNBC because I'll bring up the firing of Phil Donahue and Jesse Ventura and Ashley Bamfield and Ed Schultz.
	And if you ever see someone who calls themselves a progressive who gets a chance to go on MSNBC and doesn't bring that shit up, well, then that's all you need to know about them.
	Hello, this is Jimmy.
	Jimmy, it's Double V. Oh, hey, everybody.
	It's conservative actor Vince Vaughan.
	Hey, Vince, how are you?
	Ecstatic as usual, Jim Jam.
	I'm looking at this Democratic 2020 field so far, this clown car of unelectable dealweeds.
	I'm loving it, baby.
	Four more years.
	Oh, yeah.
	You excited about that?
	For sure, Seamus.
	For sure.
	You got Bernie in, of course, everybody's favorite grandpa who's going to give them free shit so they don't have to work or contribute to society like I did.
	You got Elizabeth Warren who thinks she's an Indian.
	Guess what, Liz?
	Sakajawea don't believe you.
	You got a gay guy, butt plug or some shit.
	That's his name.
	You got Tamala Harris, for whom putting black men in prison seems to have been a hobby.
	Let's see, who else?
	Kirsten Gillibrand?
	A president named Kirsten?
	Go fuck yourself, for real.
	Get out of here with that.
	Pulsey Gabbard.
	Actually, you know what?
	Yes, please.
	On that one.
	No complaints.
	Wow.
	But none of them have a chance against Trump, though?
	Absolutely not.
	No.
	He is flying high, Jimmy.
	Our country's never been better.
	We're finally winning back the respect of the world.
	And why is that, Vince?
	Because we're about to invade Venezuela.
	That is why, Jimmy.
	Would we go too long without a full-on interventionist invasion?
	That's when some of these little other bitch countries start getting lippy.
	They forget who the big dog is.
	I see.
	I see.
	Yeah.
	And a coup in Latin America.
	Glad to see this nation finally getting back to its roots.
	And the way they're doing it is so brilliant, baby.
	Taunting them with release supplies at the border.
	Hey, guys, want some stacks?
	I think we got some finance here somewhere.
	Then they let us in like a Trojan horse and bam, the fucking 8-team or some shit busts out, starts karate-chopping communists.
	I love it.
	I'm glad you're so happy about what is sure to be an unmitigated disaster in Venezuela, Vince.
	It's going to be great.
	And we're pulling out of a nuclear deal with the Russians finally.
	Vince, that treaty was signed in the 80s.
	It's one of the backbones of the U.S.-Russian relations.
	Yeah, well, then it sucks.
	We don't need to be in a treaty with them.
	Fuck the Ruskies.
	So you think that Russia hacked our election?
	No, no, I don't.
	Fuck them for other reasons.
	That's nonsense.
	That's fake news, coaches.
	They like Trump, which is cool.
	Okay, admittedly, my thinking isn't quite clear in this particular situation.
	I'll admit that.
	But you think things are going well in general.
	Are you kidding?
	Donald Trump is making reality his bitch, and I love it.
	Okay.
	And look out because us MAGA patriots are finally starting to have revenge on all you noodleneck libs.
	That Covington, Kentucky kid who bravely stared down that Native American who was attacking him with native drumming.
	Well, he's suing the Washington Post for their anti-Trumpian smears against him for $250 million.
	Right, which is what Jeff Bezos paid for the paper when he bought it, the Washington Post.
	Exactly.
	So they're going to win that case, and then that Covington kid is going to own the Washington Post.
	That's how this works.
	So now we get to choose the articles.
	We're coming in strong, baby.
	That actor from that show Empire that no one watches, Justice Smollett, well, he was running his mouth off about Trump, and he got jumped by two guys in MAGA hats.
	That's what you get, baby, for talking smack.
	Actually, you know, that whole thing turned out to be a giant hoax, Vince.
	You know what?
	I knew it.
	It's a left-wing media smear to make it seem like Trump supporters are dangerous and violent, which we are not.
	It's the left who are dangerous.
	Shameful.
	You know, Vince, you don't seem to have a coherent take on any of this stuff.
	I know.
	It's extremely liberating.
	This is a great era for guys like me.
	Just all adder all and bluster.
	Just say whatever, you know?
	You have your enemies.
	Just talk shit.
	Blow shit up.
	You're wasting a lot of time on Reddit.
	So, Vince, does it not bother you that Trump said he was going to drain the swamp, but he's putting people in his cabinet like John Bolton and Elliot Abrams.
	I mean, literal war criminals are in his cabinet now.
	Look, dummy, I mean, think when you drain a swamp, what's going to happen?
	You drain it temporarily, but then other swamp things come into it and you refresh the swamps.
	New chuds.
	So it doesn't bother you at all then?
	I mean, you're still cool with Trump, even though he himself is hiring these Cretans to be in his cabinet.
	Hey, little baby, nothing bothers me at all.
	I don't think about anything.
	I like a guy who pisses people off.
	That's all this is.
	Why don't you get on board?
	You'd be a great Trump supporter.
	Come on, flip over.
	Join us.
	Come on.
	Yelling at people.
	That's what I do.
	I like yelling at the powerful, not the weak.
	Yeah, but you got to think about things.
	It's stupid.
	I almost said retarded, but I caught myself because you can't say that anymore.
	You're right.
	All right, Vince, thanks for calling in, and we look forward to getting your take on the rest of the election cycle.
	Oh, yeah, no, I'll be very opinionated and uninformed about it.
	I'll call you.
	Thanks, buddy.
	I was in great movies.
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	Hello.
	Hey, dog, bro.
	That's a spanker on your hangdown swing.
	Hello, Shane.
	Hi, George.
	What's happening?
	ER was a nutty moment in my career.
	Oh, and you probably caught the news that my wife, Amal, is leaving me.
	What?
	But the rumors are disturbing.
	Are you doing okay?
	I mean, the International Business Times say that you two are getting a divorce.
	Nothing could be further from the truth.
	Why, just earlier this month, the Cloonies, Amal and me, we were also spotted enjoying a romantic dinner day together with the Sunset Tower Hotel.
	We were arm in arm.
	It was like walking with a gazelle?
	No, close, though, like a gazelle?
	Bingo, like a gazelle.
	The kids were with the nanny, who's terrific, by the way.
	The kids, Panta Gruel, and Tartoffel.
	They eat like wildebeests, literally.
	I put them next to a trough full of high-nitrogen prairie grass, and they're off for the day.
	Then they take turns napping in order to protect against predators.
	Oh, so that's good.
	So everything's normal with you guys then?
	No, yeah.
	Motherfucking dapper wearing a black shirt and a gray suit, showcasing my salt and pepper, stubble and hair.
	My exceptionally successful wife at my side, you know, scoring.
	Yeah.
	She wore this slinky velvet mini dress to Jenny's 50th B-Day parte.
	That's Anniston to you, Jim Bob.
	Jennifer Aniston, Friends.
	Ever heard of it?
	Yeah, Friends, the hit show.
	Yeah, I've heard of it.
	We look stylish as we hodge into a waiting cab.
	Amal at my side, her seemingly effortless style, like a zebra.
	A fashion icon who will forever be a fashion icon.
	Guess my net worth.
	I don't know, $100 million.
	Why can't you media types leave Megan Markle alone?
	I can't remember ever talking about her, honestly.
	Yeah, I'll talk about my new project if you insist.
	It's based on that Catch-22 novel.
	Herbit?
	Yeah, catch.
	So about the madness of war.
	War is mad.
	War is bad.
	It's madness.
	Stop vilifying the Duchess of Sussex.
	Try saying that 20 times in a row.
	Ready?
	Go.
	Duchess of Sussex, Duchess of Sussex.
	Blows my mind.
	Hey, are you going to be, are you going to support Bernie Sanders now that he's officially running?
	I'm worth 500 million, babes.
	You were off by a few clams.
	Everybody knows Aaron Matei is doing great work over at the nation.
	He's been one of the guys on the forefront debunking the Russian Gate narrative, and he was just down in Venezuela.
	And that's correct, right?
	You were just in Venezuela?
	I'm still here.
	You're still in Venezuela right now?
	Correct.
	So I'm going to play this video.
	It's from Anya Parampal.
	Is that how you say your name?
	How do you say your name?
	I said it right?
	Power and Pil.
	So I'm going to play.
	Power and Pil.
	Kind of.
	Power and Pill.
	All right.
	So I'm going to play this, and it's only two minutes long, and then we'll talk to you about what's happening in Venezuela.
	We're reporting from Simón de Bolívar Square in Caracas, where thousands of Venezuelans have been waiting in line for hours to sign an open letter to the American public denouncing U.S. intervention and aggression against their country.
	"We're going to be a country, we have to defend our country as well as our country.
	So that was kind of amazing.
	All these people are saying, and by the way, if you noticed, most of those people are dark-skinned because there seems to be a racist aspect to this coup also.
	And what they're saying is that Trump stay out of our country.
	We don't want you interfering in our country.
	Stay out.
	We elected Maduro, and we are loyal to Maduro because he is the son of Chavez.
	Aaron, what have you been seeing in Venezuela that isn't getting reported in the mainstream news besides what I just showed you?
	What I'm seeing is a very complex country.
	But I think the most important thing I can stress is that while certainly Venezuela is polarized and there is a large segment of the population that does oppose the government, and there are supporters of the government who have strong criticisms of the government.
	But I think the key thing we're missing is that the Maduro government that the Trump administration is trying to overthrow continues to have a very strong base of support.
	And that base of support, as you indicated, Jimmy, is based amongst the lower classes, people of a darker complexion, not the light-skinned professionals who have dominated Venezuela's opposition and its politics for years, and who have benefited greatly from the social programs that Ugo Chavez implemented and that Maduro has continued, and that the U.S. right now is trying to destroy.
	And I just came back from a barrio called La Vega where they were having sort of like a community council meeting that was based around a drive to increase distribution of a program called CLAP, which is it basically gives a food box to families every month, and they're trying to increase distribution to twice a month to meet people's needs.
	And, you know, for all the talk we hear about Venezuela being a dictatorship, well, this was like a vibrant community gathering where people came together and the mayor of Caracas was there and people were, first of all, just saying how, talking about how much they oppose the U.S. efforts to overthrow their government.
	But then they were also sharing their complaints, whatever complaints they had, with the mayor who was listening intently.
	And those complaints include things like we hear about.
	There are food shortages.
	There is trouble accessing protein and accessing protein affordably.
	These are real things in Venezuela.
	But this picture we're getting in the service of a U.S. coup attempt, that this is the country is in a humanitarian crisis and that it's living under a brutal dictator.
	It's again following a similar playbook that we always get whenever the U.S. is trying to target a government it wants to overthrow, which is trying to exploit people's in the West's fear, concerns for human rights, and drum it up as a pretext to overthrow a government and undo government, and in this case, undo a government that is doing many beneficial things for its people and that has the support of a very large portion of its population.
	I'd say even a plurality that we don't hear from in the U.S. That's the interesting thing.
	I had it pointed out to me.
	First of all, thanks for doing that.
	Thanks for going to Venezuela.
	What made you decide to go down there?
	Well, you know, after it became the latest target of U.S. regime change, I just figured it was the time to go.
	I mean, like, you know, whatever criticisms there are of the Venezuelan government, it's like, I mean, I don't see what role I, as a Westerner, have in that discussion.
	I mean, that's for Venezuelans to have.
	I see it as my role to come down here and show the reality of a country that the U.S. where the U.S. is engaged in a pretty savage effort to overthrow the government.
	I mean, it's not just through recognizing this guy, Juan Guaido, who's declared himself president.
	It's also by trying to cut off the country and basically suffocate it and make it submit to U.S. dictates via economic warfare, which actually began under Obama, but Trump has intensified that.
	And now, of course, there's even a military aspect to it with Trump threatening military intervention.
	So, you know, as a Western reporter, I just think it's, I think it's actually the center of the world right now because I think it's pretty clear why the U.S. wants to overthrow the government here.
	This is a huge, this has the world's largest oil reserves in Venezuela.
	And in Venezuela, they tried to pursue a model where they try to use the profits from those reserves for the benefit of the majority of the population, not for the benefit of multinational corporations.
	And, you know, Chavismo, the movement here, has been a huge inspiration, not just across Latin America, but around the world.
	And, you know, it makes sense to me that a hegemonic power like the U.S., led by a bunch of neocons like John Bolton, would want to subvert it.
	So as a Western reporter, I mean, where else can I be?
	So I came down here with colleagues who are familiar to, I think, to viewers of the show, Max Blumenthal, Ben Norton, and Anya Parrampil, whose report you saw from Bolivar Square.
	So people don't realize that when the United States puts sanctions on a country like Venezuela, that isn't meant to bring democracy to Venezuela.
	What that's meant to be is to cripple their economy and bring that country to its knees so that they can install their own puppet leader like Juan Guaido, right?
	Exactly right.
	And this is the old playbook.
	They do this everywhere.
	Every time there's an independent force, independent force in a foreign country that's deemed to be a threat to the U.S. order, by which basically means a country that wants to choose an independent path, especially one that presents a model where they try to use their country's resources for the benefit foremost of their people, not their ruling elites and not of American elites, they are targeted.
	And one way to do that is through sanctions that basically help cripple the economy, get people into a desperate state, and then sow discord and try to foment a coup.
	And that's exactly like the playbook here.
	It's exactly what the U.S. has followed all over the world, especially in Latin America.
	I mean, like the parallels to a place like Nicaragua are pretty striking.
	You have the U.S. refusing to recognize the elections of the government of the country that elects a government you don't like.
	So as the Nicaragua elected the Santinistas in the mid-80s, now we don't recognize Venezuela when they elect Maduro.
	There is economic warfare, huge, you know, cutting off the country from world markets, from loans, from the ability to be a part of the global system.
	In the 80s with Nicaragua, there was the Contras, which carried out a terrorist war, trying to make Nicaragua miserable.
	We don't see a terrorist war yet here in Venezuela yet, but yet we have people like Elliott Abrams, who helped oversee the terrorist war in Nicaragua, now being appointed the Venezuela envoy for Trump.
	And we have Trump threatening military intervention.
	We have reports about U.S. weapons coming to Venezuela.
	We have reports of U.S. military aircraft flying conspicuous flights.
	Cuba saying that they believe they carry special forces aimed at entering Venezuela.
	So we have all the elements of a destabilization campaign via economic warfare and at least the threat of force.
	And possibly, we'll see how far Trump's prepared to go, even the use of force.
	So there is actually the United States actually had what is being referred to as a coup fund.
	Have you heard about this, the 20 million that was made available for programs to promote democracy and the rule of law inside Venezuela?
	Did you hear about that?
	Well, yeah, and the money they spent on the, just on the Venezuelan opposition is much more than that.
	I mean, for years, including, and my colleague Max Blumenthal had a great report on this at the Gray Zone, where he talks about who Juan Guaido is.
	And he came up in a Venezuelan opposition that has many elements.
	But Guaido represents pretty much the far right of the spectrum.
	And his group, Valentad Popular, has many figures, including Guaido, who receive training in these U.S.-funded programs.
	And it follows a similar playbook.
	It's always the same thing.
	The U.S. finds people who it can co-opt, who it can fund, and it showers them with incentives to basically act as clients in the government, in the country that the U.S. wants to destabilize and install people more favorable to what it deems to be its interests.
	So are you, as a reporter, do you expect any pushback from the government on you going down there telling this story?
	Do I expect pushback from the U.S. government?
	Yes.
	Or people like the German Defense Fund.
	I mean, yeah.
	I mean, I don't expect any sort of government censure because, you know, we're not a police.
	We're not a full-on police state yet.
	But yeah, I mean, I expect the usual.
	What do you call Facebook?
	What do you call Facebook when they deplatform people at the behest of the government?
	I mean, social media and the government are hand in hand today, don't you agree?
	That is true.
	And we're seeing more and more on that.
	And on that note, yeah, I mean, I expect more of the same, which is basically when you are a dissenting voice, when you challenge the policies of the U.S. government and its allies, then, you know, like you face the normal ways that people get marginalized for doing so.
	So you get ignored, you get smeared, you know, you maybe even get censored.
	But, you know, it's our job to ignore that and to push ahead and to, you know, just be as objective as we can and provide people with the reality and the facts that are being denied the majority of the American population because we have a media system that is not presenting an accurate portrayal of a place like Venezuela,
	simply because we have so many media outlets that fall in line whenever the U.S. government decides on a certain policy, especially if it's foreign policy, when it decides that a foreign government is now an official enemy.
	We've seen so many times the U.S. media fall in line.
	And certainly Venezuela is no exception.
	You know, there was just a study from FAIR saying that MSNBC gave Venezuela about five minutes worth of airtime.
	Five.
	Yeah.
	Well, five minutes of critical coverage.
	So five minutes of critical coverage of the government narrative.
	So they've definitely talked about it more than five minutes, but only five minutes that they have.
	So they're not going to bring on someone like you.
	Isn't that interesting?
	MSNBC doesn't bring on someone like you or Max Blumenthal or someone from Venezuelananalysis.org.
	They don't bring on any of those people.
	But you know what they do bring on?
	They bring on Max Boot.
	They bring on people like William Crystal.
	They bring on people from the Bush administration.
	This is who they bring on to talk about this stuff.
	And that's why people don't know.
	Now, before you went down there, I had Abby Martin on our show and Mike Preisner, and they had filled us in on what was really kind of happening in Venezuela.
	Now, you probably, I'm sure you knew most of that stuff before you went down there.
	Now, did you go down there just to confirm what you already knew, or did you actually learn something new?
	Well, I mean, look, I learned many things.
	I mean, you know, listen, I was expecting from the Venezuelan opposition to see, you know, like my impression of them was that it was just mostly for the upper class and that it was all, you know, it was an upper class based opposition, which actually is not true.
	It's actually more diverse than that.
	And when I went to an opposition march, it was pretty large.
	And there were, you know, like Venezuela is a tough place.
	It's a complex politics to understand because there are many middle class people who I've spoken to who don't like this government and do want to change.
	Now, no one I spoke to wants the U.S. to impose it.
	But it is a very polarized country.
	And it's like the complexity of that polarization is something I didn't fully grasp until I got here.
	But, you know, like all that, again, is for something for Venezuelans to work out themselves.
	And the best way they can work it out for themselves is with no U.S. interference, no U.S. efforts to impose a new government, and certainly no U.S. sanctions.
	And I think the desperation that I heard from some people who are just frustrated with politics in general, I think I can't separate that from a context in which you have the world's largest superpower making it really difficult, if not impossible, for their country to survive on the global stage, to function on the global stage, because Venezuela can't, you know, it can't access its own money right now.
	It can't access its own company, its own state oil company in the U.S. It's having its gold blocked by England.
	When it does transactions, it can't do anything in U.S. dollars.
	And since the U.S. dollar pretty much dominates the world, it's very difficult.
	And it makes all the problems here all the more stark.
	And it's like you can go to any country and find serious problems.
	I went to Haiti in 2004 and I saw poverty I never, I couldn't have fathomed.
	But the answer in Haiti was not to put it under even more U.S. strangulation, which had been the case in Haiti.
	The answer was to let it run its own affairs and to encourage dialogue between its political parties, not try to stifle it.
	And here in Venezuela, it's true that you have a Venezuelan opposition that does have some support, but that opposition also has abandoned dialogue with the government.
	There has been opposition violence against Chavez and Maduro supporters that we don't hear about.
	So it's a complex place, and the notion that we have any business playing any role, any role in it, except for helping to except for leaving it alone, basically, and welcoming Venezuela into the international community, just like every other nation, and recognizing as a nation that has its sovereignty like any nation, that's the only role that we can play here is basically leaving it alone and letting it work out its problems on its own.
	So where do you see this ending up?
	Do you see us letting Venezuela work out?
	Because the African Union, Italy, Mexico, there's lots of Russia is supporting the people, the election results, which was Maduro.
	So they're against a coup.
	They're against the United States intervention.
	So how do you, so even, so it seems like the world is kind of split on this too.
	How do you, do you see this ending up?
	Do you have any predictions?
	You know, I think it's a question of how fanatic is the Trump administration.
	How far do they want to go in seeing their regime change effort come to fruition?
	Elliot Abrams and John Bolton, right?
	I just literally tell you their point person is Elliot Abrams, who is a mass murderer responsible for so many deaths in Central America during the 80s, helping oversee the U.S. terrorist wars there.
	So it's a question of does the Trump administration want to go there again?
	I don't think, I don't think they're crazy enough to try an actual military intervention, but there's a whole terrorist playbook that the U.S. has followed as practiced in Nicaragua, where they propped up the Contras who made life for the population, especially in the rural areas, a nightmare.
	And so it's a question about how much does the certainly the coup so far is not working out.
	Venezuela has something like 2,000 military officers and only one of them has defected.
	And that one officer commands zero troops.
	And you can't launch a coup without the military.
	So that's not working out.
	So it's a question of how far does the Trump administration want to go.
	And I think the answer to that question depends on what kind of an actual resistance will Democrats put up.
	None.
	So far, we have a small number.
	Well, so far, we have a small number of Congress members like Roe Khanna and Ilhan Omar and Tulsi Gabbard and a few others who've been willing to stand up and say very clearly that the U.S. has no business and no right to carry out regime change in Venezuela.
	But then meanwhile, you have Nancy Pelosi, the leader of the Democrats, the so-called resistance leader, standing by Trump's side and backing this effort.
	So to the extent that there can be any kind of challenge to the U.S. efforts here, led by these sociopaths like Elliott Abrams, there has to be resistance from within.
	And whether we as average civilians do something, I mean, the opportunity is there for us.
	But certainly I think the prospects of standing up to it would help if the opposition party, the Democrats, were an actual opposition party and maybe not going along with Trump as him and his gang try yet another regime change effort in a foreign country.
	I mean, it's amazing that we even have to ponder that question of whether or not an opposition party can do that.
	You know what I mean?
	But that's what we have in the U.S. We have basically two factions of the same party, the War Party, on that issue, regime change, foreign wars, they're the same every single time.
	The Iraq war, Libya, now Venezuela, it's always bipartisan.
	And I think whether or not we change that, the answer to that question, I think, can very much help determine the future of Venezuela.
	And in turn, I'd say the world, because if the Trump gang wins here in Venezuela, it'd be a crushing defeat for the rights of countries to chart their own independent course and to carry out insane things like using their resources for their own benefit and not for the benefit of their elites and for foreign corporations.
	It's just remarkable to see Nancy Pelosi get the guy supposed to be a madman who's not we should try to have overthrow Trump, but oh, we'll let him invade other countries and we'll support him overthrowing democratically elected people.
	That shows you the hollowness and the corruption inside the Democratic Party and Nancy Pelosi is the top of that corruption.
	And let's remember why she's chosen as leader.
	She's not chosen as leader because she's actually a leader.
	She's not a leader.
	She's following Trump into Venezuela.
	She's chosen as leader by Wall Street.
	That's who chooses people in the Democratic Party.
	That's why Chuck Schumer's the leader, a guy you wouldn't ask directions to the freeway, is the leader of the Democrats in the Senate because he gets the most cash.
	Whoever is the leader in the Democratic Party, they're the most corrupted motherfucker in that party.
	Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, the two most corrupted motherfuckers in that party are leading the party, which is why we have to worry about Trump going into Venezuela.
	You know, when the number one oil reserve in the world, and when I found out they were the number one oil reserve in the world, I knew that we needed to bring them democracy.
	So those people are being oppressed.
	That's just a good thing that France doesn't have any oil because they've been protesting for about 14 weeks straight and the government's starting to use tear gas on them and everything.
	So they don't have oil, so we don't have to liberate their people.
	So that's what's really happening.
	Well, Aaron, I want to say thank you so much for taking time out of your day all the way from Venezuela.
	You know, it's not being covered.
	Your story, what you're seeing down in Venezuela is not being covered in the United States.
	And that's why alternative media exists.
	And that's why we're here.
	And if you have a show and you consider yourself alternative media and you're not covering what's really happening in Venezuela, you're not alternative media, FYI.
	Thanks for leaving this lane open for the Jimmy Door show.
	So is there anything you want to end with, Aaron, that the people should know?
	Well, just on that note of the word motherfucker, I want to tell you that what comes up for me is that actually relates to a relevant anecdote, which is that we hear often about Venezuela being a dictatorship.
	And I spoke before about going to this local community today where people were gathered together and talking about ways they can make their community better and also airing their complaints to the mayor of Caracas and this very lower class, a very lower class community in a barrio of Caracas.
	But that's one aspect, I think, of Venezuelan democracy that I think we could learn from.
	I can't imagine Mayor Bill de Blasio of New York, where I live, coming and sitting for that long and listening to complaints from local residents and addressing them in such a dedicated way as I saw today.
	But also, another commentary, I think, on the merits of calling Venezuela a dictatorship, and this gets back to the word motherfucker.
	I promise I'll get back there, which is I went to this big opposition rally a few days ago here in Caracas, and Juan Guaido spoke, and they had this thing that he played with the crowd where he would say the name of Nicolas Maduro, the president of Venezuela, the supposed dictator who the U.S. is trying to overthrow.
	And whenever he would say it, the crowd would chant, motherfucker, right?
	And it was pretty funny.
	It was kind of funny.
	And I was thinking, I was like, geez, this is like a pretty unique dictatorship where you're in the middle of the city in a huge district.
	You're allowed to have this massive gathering of people, not just protesting the president, the supposed dictator, but calling him a motherfucker.
	And this protest went off very smoothly.
	I barely saw a police presence.
	So that's just a small window into the merits of labeling this country a dictatorship, as we often hear by U.S. politicians and U.S. pundits trying to justify the U.S. regime change efforts right now in Venezuela.
	So you know what the definition of a dictator is, Aaron?
	I'll tell you what the definition of a dictator is.
	It's a leader of a country that won't let American corporations dictate their policy.
	That's what a dictator is.
	So listen.
	Exactly right.
	Aaron, everybody check out Aaron Matei's writing in the nation.
	And we'll have him sure.
	I'll have him back on the show.
	Oh, he's going to be in Los Angeles coming up in the next few weeks.
	We'll have him in the studio.
	So we're looking forward to that.
	Thanks again, Aaron, for being on the show and for informing us on what's happening in Venezuela.
	Hey, by the way, before I let you go, Bill Maher made a big deal out of the Monroe Doctrine.
	Can you think of a dumber thing to bring up in this conversation?
	What did he say about Venezuela?
	It's our backyard.
	Yeah, he said this is our backyard.
	What the fuck?
	It's another country.
	The fuck are you talking about?
	It's our backyard.
	So you know what else is there?
	Object with Russia's backyard?
	The Ukraine, Crimea.
	That's their fucking backyard.
	How about that?
	What the?
	We have missiles on their border.
	We have missiles in Russia's backyard.
	And this guy's anyway.
	So go ahead.
	That's what he was talking about, the Monroe Doctrine.
	Yeah, I mean, it just shows the sickness, like literalist, like literal sickness.
	I can't think of another better term that infects the U.S. elite, you know, even liberals or whatever you want to call Bill Maher, liberal bigots like Bill Maher in looking at another country, a sovereign country, or in a part of the world and calling that our backyard.
	You know, like sounding like an imperialist.
	You know, like a like just like a rank imperialist and repeating just like one of the most vile aspects of U.S. imperial dogma, you know, going back decades now.
	And so that's who that's who our liberal figures are.
	That's who we're getting our news and comedy from.
	And it's a reminder of why alternative media is important and why people like Bill Maher, why elitism is a disease.
	I mean, imagine having that mindset where you could look at a foreign country that way.
	I mean, it's, you know, so I'd urge Bill Maher to get help.
	And for the rest of us, you know, just to turn that shit off.
	So one more thing before I let you go.
	Do you think it'll ever dawn on Trump supporters that he's actually, when he said he was going to drain the swamp, he actually found his cabinet at the bottom of that swamp because now he's literally taking people from the criminal Bush administrations that are criminals and murderers and putting them in his own administration.
	I'm talking about John Bolton.
	I'm talking about Elliot Abrams.
	Those guys are, by the way, Elliot Abraham's already convicted.
	He had to get pardoned from Bush, the first Bush.
	So do you think they'll ever dawn on them that he's actually, he is the swamp and these guys are the worst creatures in the swamp ever?
	I don't know because I don't fully understand the mentality of a Trump supporter and I don't want to begin to try.
	But what I do know is that I think, you know, and this is part of the reason why I've been so focused on Russia Gate and debunking it with you, Jimmy, you know, as with all the work you've done as well is because, you know, I think it's going to make it very difficult to reach whoever can be reached on the Trump supporting side,
	if there's anybody who can be reached, as long as we, as long as the, you know, we, by which I mean the broad left, anybody who basically doesn't support Trump, is obsessed with Russia Gate and is convinced that he's a Kremlin agent and that he conspired with the Kremlin and that's going to bring him down.
	I think the sooner we drop that, I think the sooner we can maybe try to reach Trump supporters and reach the people that he fooled into thinking that he was going to be a working class champion and drain the swamp.
	And as long as we're trying to still relitigate 2016 and still trying to delegitimize 2016 and ignore all the people who actually shunned the Democrats and said, fuck these neoliberal Democrats and they gambled on Trump for whatever reason, I don't think we're going to get anywhere.
	And thankfully, I mean, like while I've been away, I haven't followed everything, but I've seen indications more and more that RussiaGate is losing steam.
	We had that Senate intelligence report, a bipartisan one, concluding that they cannot find any direct evidence of collusion.
	So when they say when they say direct evidence, I correct that.
	They haven't found evidence.
	There's no evidence.
	So the direct, indirect, fuck that.
	I've never seen anyone else have to use a qualifier like direct evidence.
	They've never said that.
	We haven't found any direct evidence with El Capone.
	We haven't found any found evidence or not.
	Why don't they have to add that extra word?
	Yeah.
	And we're seeing, you know, instead of like, you know, some like instead of it dawning on them that maybe it's time to drop it, we're seeing Adam Schiff.
	He's relaunching.
	He's relaunching the House intelligence probe.
	And people are saying, yes, this is the one.
	And now they're even trashing Mueller.
	They're saying Mueller did not go far enough.
	You know, like they're raising questions about Mueller.
	I know it's a lot.
	They're resting their hopes on now on Paul.
	They're also resting their hopes on Paul Manafort's case because Mueller says Manafort lied about his conversations with his Russian colleague, Konstantin Kalimnik, and because Manafort shared polling data with him during the campaign.
	And, you know, it's like one thing collapses and they just swing to the next branch.
	And I think the only thing that will finally put a stop to this is the Mueller report itself, if it stops it at all.
	And by the way, we have to wait, I think, for that to until fucking Christmas at least.
	Yeah, well, I hope not.
	I hope Christmas comes early.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Well, listen, Aaron Matei, again, it's been great talking with you.
	Everybody check out Aaron on Twitter and check out his writing in the Nation magazine.
	And we look forward to more of your reports.
	Thanks very much, Aaron, for being with us.
	And tell everybody, tell Matt, Max, we say hello.
	I will.
	Thanks, Jimmy.
	Okay, buddy.
	Bye-bye.
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	Admit to the shit ROM to the hay in your grillbaxter.
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	I'm doing okay, Mitt.
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	No, what?
	It's in the bag, son.
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