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Get ready for an outstanding entertainment program.
The Jimmy Dore Show.
Hello?
Jim, Jim, Jam, Jimmy, James, Jammy, James, Jimmy.
It's Harrison.
Ford, the actor from movies.
Harrison Ford, what a treat.
How have you been?
Pretty good, Jimmy.
Never been better, in fact.
I'll put it that way.
Wow, really?
What have you been doing lately?
Dabs.
Dabs?
What are dabs?
Figured you'd know what I was talking about.
I'm talking about dabs, honey, bubble young, earwax, shatter, toejaman Earl, crumble, crumblaya, Bruce Baum, Crazy Glue, Sticky Henderson, Earl and Lank.
Yeah, I think I might have heard of that last one.
Every day I drink two cups of black coffee.
I eat half a great fruit, a little sugar on top.
Then I pull my dabbing rig up from the freezer, and I just, um, I just blast off, Jim.
Oh, all right, I get it.
I mean, I'm not exactly hip to it, but from the slang you're slinging, I can deduce that it's some kind of cannabis thing, correct?
You're goddamn right it is.
Gotta try it, Jimmy.
You'll love it.
In fact, that's why I'm calling.
Why don't you and the wife come out over to Jackson Hole this Labor Day weekend?
I'll take up my helicopter and you can watch me operate a butane torch.
Harrison, why would you have a butane torch in your helicopter?
Aren't you in enough trouble with the FAA?
Oh, please.
I'm an FP, Jimmy.
Famous person.
Oh.
My face is my stay out of jail forever card.
Oh, yeah, I get it.
Not to mention, I'm seriously fucking rich.
Right.
So what do you say?
Jay Hole, maybe next weekend we'll get higher than our ranker's nuts.
Star Wars reference that I know you don't understand.
I had no idea.
I know.
I had no idea a ranker was some kind of animal.
I'll have to get back to you.
Did I mention I'm mega rich?
Does that sweeten the deal at all?
Yeah, yeah, you mentioned it.
What else is new with you?
Got any more acting gigs coming up?
I mean, you're probably excited about that sequel to Blade Runner, no?
Oh, yeah.
I remember thinking, man, that was the best script I ever read.
Too bad, though.
It'll never get made.
What are you talking about?
It did get made.
You're kidding.
Harrison, you're in it.
I am.
Yeah.
You don't remember doing it, being on the set?
It's got Ryan Gosling and Jared Leto in it, too.
Oh, Jesus, those dinks.
And I'm in it also.
Are you sure?
I saw the trailer.
It's you, buddy.
Jimmy, there's the picture...
You know, I don't know.
I really don't like sci-fi movies anyway, so.
Ah, that makes me nervous.
Pray to God that Vangelis did the music again, right?
Maybe a CGI MM at Walsh.
Am I in it a lot?
So many questions.
Oh, God.
Oh, man.
Why is my career in this feedback loop with my career from 40 years ago?
I keep agreeing to these nostalgia pictures and I keep cashing these monster checks.
And for what?
What am I putting out into the world?
Spielberg was right.
Should have retired a long time ago.
I feel sick.
I think I'm going to squeeze.
Oh, fuck.
Hey, hey, you know what's good for an upset stomach, Harrison?
Probably a little of that dabaroo you were talking about.
No, Jimmy.
I think it's time I put down my rig.
What?
Maybe, in my advanced age, I should consider more seriously the positive effect my celebrity could be having.
Maybe I should narrate some more forest fire PSAs.
Or wait.
Maybe I ought to take one of my vintage airplanes and douse some of these California wildfires.
You think you can do that?
Well, sure.
I did the ice bucket challenge.
It'd be kind of like that.
Get up in my plane, drop some ice water on them shits.
Anything helps, I guess.
Or maybe it's not too late to join the humanitarian effort in Houston or Florida or the U.S. Virgin Islands or Puerto Rico.
Maybe I can rescue stranded hurricane survivors or some shit.
Couldn't be accused of phoning something like that in.
That sounds mighty gallant of you.
What the fuck?
I've got at least one more plane crash left in me.
It's the Jimmy Dore Show.
The show for...
...up-minded, lowly-lovered lefties.
The kind of people that are.
Commence maybe on tearing down our nation.
It's the show that makes Anderson Cooper save.
It's hard to talk to T-Wales.
And now, here's a guy who sounds a lot like me.
It's Jimmy Dore.
Hi, everybody.
Welcome to the Jimmy Dore Show.
How you doing?
October 12th is our next live show in Burbank, California.
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See you Friday, October 12th in Burbank, California.
Now let's get to the jokes before we get to the jokes, shall we?
You know, I don't know a lot of people.
You know, I grew up Catholic and a lot of my family and friends like Pope Francis.
But I say Pope Francis is really the Barack Obama of hopes because he says nice things and is incredibly likable.
But at the end of the day, nothing really changes.
Hey, did you hear Alabama voters are angry at Democrat Doug Jones?
I don't know if you know Doug Jones.
He won the Senate race down there in Alabama.
Boy, it's hard to believe that the guy who was less than 2% more popular than his pedophile opponent continues to disappoint people.
Did you see some 11-year-old girl hacked into the voting systems in Falerna?
No problem.
She did it in under 10 minutes.
Well, I got to tell you, the only election I ever ran in was in high school, and that had a more secure and accounting voting process than the United States.
Hey, did you hear Omarosa has a new book?
Right?
Breaking, shitty game show contestant fired from shitty game show government rights shitty game show tell-all shocking shitty game show politicians and shitty game show media you know there are still a lot of hollywood liberals who think working on the apprentice was a good career choice for them uh did you see i was watching msnbc and cnn and they won't stop playing that tape loop of that stolen plane in seattle
did you hear about that and msnbc and cnn are playing that video of that guy over and over and over which makes me think are republicans backing it for president here's an injustice fact injustice fact did you know that the average american spends seven thousand two hundred dollars on Food each year?
That's enough to feed the cast of pawn stars for an hour.
Hey, what's coming up on today's show?
We are going to take a look at the latest deplatforming of lefty news sites on Facebook and Google.
Plus, the Democrats banned taking fossil fuel two months ago, just decided to reverse it.
Tom Perez.
Fantastic.
Plus, a lot lot more.
That's today on the Jimmy Door show.
Hi, everybody.
Welcome to Jimmy Door Show.
I'm here with Steph Zamarano.
Hi, Jimmy.
So we've told you that the problem with the elections, that the people who are saying that they're concerned about the elections, the integrity in Russia hacking, it's all if they really are concerned, they're doing nothing about it.
Absolutely nothing.
Because we've known that you can, A, the vote is suppressed, right?
The Greg Palace doing great work on that.
The vote is suppressed.
Number two, you can hack the voting machines.
And number three, we're going to find out something even else.
Look at this.
An 11-year-old changed election results on a replica Florida State website in under 10 minutes.
An 11-year-old.
And so it was at this thing called the DEF CON.
They have this DEF CON conference in Las Vegas.
And it's a bunch of these computer people or tech nerds.
I say that in the best way possible.
These tech nerds.
And they get together and they have a thing where they try to hack into people's websites or whatever.
They try to find vulnerabilities as a service.
So what they'll do is they'll set up the exact replica of a website, say, like for the Florida State Secretary of State.
They set up the exact using the exact same thing, and then they go, hey, try to hack into it.
And then when they find the vulnerabilities, they tell the people that here's your vulnerabilities.
You should try to fix these.
And then, well, here's the guy from DEF CON, and here's what he had to say about it.
The first kid got in.
It was an 11-year-old girl.
She got in and took over the kind of mock Florida website in under 10 minutes and was able to change election results and change the winners and losers and all that stuff.
By the end of the weekend, the kids were, you know, changing people's names to like Bob DeBuilder and all that kind of stuff, coming up with some pretty creative things to do to mess with the election results.
You're saying children were able to do this?
Her voice went up so high, only dogs can hear it at the end.
You're saying, I can't even go up that high.
You want to hear that?
You're saying children were able to do this?
Children were able to do this?
I can't even get my voice up that high.
I can't even do it.
But that's very funny.
And now, watch out.
Watch what he says.
This response, even more mind-blowing.
Here we go.
Yeah, so unfortunately, it's so easy to do that we didn't put this particular challenge in the main room where the adult hackers are hacking into voting machines because it's so easy to hack into these websites that they wouldn't find it interesting or fun or challenging.
So we decided to give it to kids to do.
And so we had about 50 kids doing it, and almost all of them were able to get in and change election results or something else on the page.
So it's so easy to do this that they give it to kids to do.
And an 11-year-old got in in 10 minutes.
Anyway, so this is from PBS News Hour.
Thousands of adult hackers attended the convention annually while a group of children attempted to hack 13 imitation websites linked to voting in presidential battleground states.
Nico Sell, the co-founder of the nonprofit Roots Asylum, which that's a really clever way to write Roots Asylum, isn't it?
Look how they write roots.
Anyway, which teaches children how to become hackers and helped organize the event.
That sounds like it almost sounds like it almost sounds like we teach children how to become criminals.
Yes, organized.
That sounds like a great summer camp.
Actually, right?
Like if you're into all that kind of media, like that would be totally great.
That would be awesome.
How young do I have to be to go to this?
Hey, you get to go to Vegas as a kid.
By the way, Vegas, Vegas are you know how kids love Vegas.
Oh, the whoring, the boozing, the gambling, the titty shows.
It's a children's paradise.
It's a children's paradise.
He's, They teach children how to become hackers and organize the event.
Said that an 11-year-old girl also managed to make changes to the same Florida replica website in about 15 minutes, tripling the number of votes found there.
Sell said that more than 30 children hacked a variety of similar state replica websites in under a half an hour.
These are very accurate replicas of all the sites, Sell told PBS NewsHour on Sunday.
These things should not be easy enough for an eight-year-old kid to hack within 30 minutes.
It's negligent for us as a society.
Yes, it is negligent for us as a society, but I'm going to bet you nothing is done to fix this problem.
Sell said the idea for the event began last year after adult hackers were able to access similar voting sites in less than five minutes.
So the idea for the event, this DEF CON thing, or the, I think, I guess that's what it is.
In a statement regarding the event, the National Association of Secretaries of State.
There's an association for that.
Did you know?
Isn't that wild?
I did not know.
There's an association of secretaries of secretaries of state.
Isn't that something?
Said it's ready to work with civic-minded group members of DEF CON community wanting to become part of a proactive team effort to secure our elections.
Well, that sounds encouraging.
Now do you have something discouraging?
Sure.
But the organizers express skepticism over the hackers' abilities to access the actual state websites.
Then let them.
Then let those kids have some fun with your state website.
But if those kids do that, that's illegal.
So that they can't, but I would still find a way to do it and be anonymous and then blame it on the Russians.
It would be extremely difficult to replicate the system since many states utilize unique networks and custom-built databases with new and updated security protocols.
That's what the Secretaries of State Organization says.
Everything's fine.
That's what they say.
Everything's fine.
Even though year after year, you guys have proven that you can hack into these things in under five minutes and 11-year-olds can do it in under 10.
The site may be a replica, but the vulnerabilities that, so this is the quote from the DEF CON guy.
He says, the site may be a replica, but the vulnerabilities that these kids were exploiting were not replicas.
They're the real thing.
So he's saying, no, sorry.
This is an exact replica of your Secretary of State website, the exact thing, and they were able to hack into that.
But so they're saying, well, by the way, so a lot of people say, well, or they also said in that article that they didn't hack into the actual, and by the way, even if they hack into our Secretary of State website, that's not hacking into the voting machines that actually, that would just be, we would eventually realize that someone hacked into our website, our Secretary of State website, and changed the numbers because we get the numbers from the voting machines and we know what they are.
And when they go up on the website, we would notice that there would be a difference.
So that's why they also say, so don't pay any attention to this because they're not actually hacking into the voting machines.
But hey, check it out.
DEF CON hackers easily bust into the voting machines.
But will tech companies listen?
The answer is no.
So here's a woman, Rachel Tobak.
She's going to show you how easy it is.
So here's what she says.
I'm at DEF CON Hacking Conference and just learned how easy it is to physically gain administrative access on a voting machine that is used in 18 states.
It requires no tools and takes under two minutes.
So she's going to show you right now.
I'm going to show you the video of her.
She's going to show you how you can hack into one of these voting machines that are used in 18 states and you can get administration as an administrator so you can do whatever you want in under two minutes.
So here, here she goes.
She's going to do it for you right there.
I'm very concerned for our upcoming election because this voting machine is used in 18 different states and it's extremely easy to get admin access on this machine.
So let me show you how quick it is.
A little under two minutes.
All they have to do, this bad actor, would be to open up this machine by pressing this button right here.
When it's off, removing the card reader.
Removing this.
You don't need any tools to do this.
Unplugging this.
Again, you don't need any tools to do this.
Turning it on.
All you have to do is pick this lock here with a fallpoint pen.
Open this up.
Press the red button.
And we're going to let it boot up here.
And then I'll show you the admin access.
Okay, so I'm going to let this play for a few seconds to show you how long it takes in real time.
It takes a few seconds.
But here we go.
So it's loading with what they call a secure voting terminal right now.
A secure voting terminal.
That's ironic.
And here we're going to see a couple of error messages, and all you have to do to bypass those error messages is just click cancel and okay.
And there you go.
Now I have full admin access under two minutes.
Two error messages come up.
You click cancel and then you click okay.
And then she has admin administrative access as if she is the administrator of that thing of that voting machine.
She's total control of it.
It looks pretty secure, Jimmy.
Super secure.
Hackers at DEF CON's voting village managed to swap out software, rest control of tabulation, and manipulate the behavior of voting machines that will likely be used in midterm elections.
The voting machines were put to the test at the second annual conference in Las Vegas last weekend.
The goal to give tech companies some insight into flaws that should be addressed before voters head to the polls.
But a leading manufacturer of voting equipment complained that the exercise wasn't a fair test of vulnerabilities to the real world hackers who would have to do their worst remotely and get past additional security hurdles.
I think this is a misprint.
It said they would have to do their worst remotely.
I think they would have to do their work.
I think that's a misprint.
Hackers will absolutely access.
So listen to this.
So hackers will absolutely access some voting systems internal components because they will have full and unfettered access to a unit.
Without the advantage of trained poll workers, locks, tamper evidence seals, passwords, and other security measures that are in place in an actual voting situation, election systems and software wrote in a letter sent to customers and seen by the journal.
So they're saying, oh, sure, you can hack into a thing at the DEF CON, but you couldn't do that in real life because in real life, we have trained poll workers.
Ha ha ha ha ha.
Ha ha.
Ha ha ha ha.
Ha ha ha ha.
Oh, you're, oh, you could.
You got to get up pretty early in the morning to slip something past a non-paid poll worker.
How could you pop those people?
You know, they come right from the FBI to poll working.
I mean, you can't get past them.
Again, so they show them how it's easy it is to hack.
And the people who make this software and the systems go, don't pay attention to it.
You guys don't want to fix this?
No, we're not going to.
That's what that says.
Don't pay attention to those people.
Nothing to see here.
The Russians.
We could always blame it on the Russians.
How easy is it for one of those poll workers to go pull this off?
You have trust in your poll workers are corrupt.
How about if I go to a poll worker and I go, hey, I'm going to give you five grand.
Could you go do this?
Could you go?
It takes two seconds.
Here's five grand.
Here's 50 grand.
Hey, here's 100 grand.
Could you go switch the vote?
Because this is an important district.
People would do that for 500 bucks, by the way.
Poll workers, there's no doubt that I'm not saying.
You're not advocating.
I'm not advocating, but I'm saying I would bet that you could get a poll worker to roll for about 500 bucks.
I don't know.
I'm guessing.
But that's what the thing people in this economy.
In this economy.
How about you just offer them a free trip to the doctor?
I'll cover your expenses.
Go to the doctor.
It's on me.
Tell him you want the works.
All right.
So the people who make the machines don't give a shit about this.
The secretaries of state don't give a shit about this.
No one gives a shit about this and no one is doing a fucking thing about it.
The Democratic Party isn't screaming about This.
Nancy Pelosi isn't screaming about this.
Chuck Schumer, Rachel Maddow isn't screaming about this.
Chris Hayes, Jake Tapper, Anderson.
No one is screaming.
New York Times, the Washington Post.
Nobody is screaming about this.
Nobody.
They might mention it.
It was mentioned in the Huffington Post in between their 23-hour and 50-minute headlines of Trump Putin.
They probably, somehow they slipped in that article somewhere.
So this is, to me, A, more proof that the establishment doesn't really give a shit about election integrity.
And that, of course, the Russian meme is to distract you from the actual election fraud that happened in 2016, which was in the Democratic primary.
Enjoy your government.
So he saw this.
This was from two months ago.
This was from, let me see, what's the date on that?
June 12th.
It says DNC quietly adopts a ban on fossil fuel company donations.
The move is a step forward, purging oil, gas, and coal industry influence on the Democratic Party's climate policies.
But they do it.
They didn't tell anybody.
Keep it quiet.
Why?
Because Tom Perez wasn't comfortable about it.
It pisses off his donors.
He doesn't want anybody to really know about that.
Because he, well, here's what it said.
The Democratic National Committee voted over the weekend to ban donations from fossil fuel companies.
The resolution proposed by Christine Pelosi, a party activist and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi's daughter.
It bars the organization from accepting contributions from corporate political action committees tied to the oil, gas, and coal industries.
The executive committee voted unanimously.
Wow.
Unanimously to approve this.
That's just in June.
That's June 12th.
This is going to be the way that we ask people to make some clear choices so voters know what they're getting, Pelosi said.
So that's Nancy Pelosi's daughter says this is going to be the way that we ask people to make some clear choices so voters know what they're getting.
When you talk the talk and walk the walk, that's how you're going to inspire people.
Yes.
You have to walk the walk and talk the talk and reap and weep and skip the skip, all that stuff.
And that's how you inspire voters.
Correct.
But inspiring voters makes Democrats uncomfortable.
So Democratic National Committee backtracks on ban on fossil fuel donations.
Two freaking months ago, they unanimously voted for this.
Two months later, this guy introduces a hey, let's get rid of it.
The Democratic National Committee passed a resolution Friday afternoon that activists say effectively reverses a ban on fossil fuel company donations.
Why would you people vote Green Party?
Don't you know what's at stake?
You have to vote for the Green.
You have to vote for the Democrat.
Why would you vote for a Green candidate?
So you're not complicit.
That's why I voted for a Green candidate.
So I wouldn't be complicit in war crimes.
The resolution introduced by the DNC chair Tom M. F.ing Perez.
This resolution was introduced by Tom F. Effing Perez, which let's remember was put in there because of the straw arm tactics by Barack Obama.
The resolution introduced by DNC chair Tom Perez states that the party supports fossil fuel workers and will accept donations from employers, employers, political action committees.
It was approved by a 30-2 vote just two months after the committee adopted another resolution prohibiting donations from fossil fuel companies by a unanimous vote.
Here's what Jane Sanders says.
She says, DNC chair Tom Perez proposes that the Democratic Party now accept donations from fossil fuel political action committees just two months after the DNC unanimously prohibited donations from fossil fuel companies.
Please tell your elected officials and DNC reps that this is wrong.
Wow, she really uses some strong language.
Please tell your elected officials that this is wrong.
Here's Kate Aronoff.
She says, to put a fine point on it, this proposal isn't to let union members keep donating to the DNC.
It's to let fossil fuel executives keep donating and selling influence among Democrats.
Certain unions, including some building trades, see their interests as aligned with those of executives.
And here's what Bill McKibben says: new DNC proposal with support in all of the above energy policies.
Oh, I've heard that before.
What's the last party platform explicitly rejects?
This is a bad idea on both scientific and political grounds.
So all those people, like, why would you vote for the green in Ohio?
Remember that?
Why would you vote?
Why wouldn't you vote for the Democrat?
I don't know if you're an environmentalist.
Why would you vote for the Democrat?
This is why you would vote for the fucking green.
This is why, if you're an environmentalist, why you would vote for a Green Party person.
This is why.
Because if you keep voting for them, they're not going to ever stop doing that.
That's the thing.
I saw this thing on Twitter, and I forget who tweeted it, but it was, you know, again, shaming Green Party voters.
And they said, you know, why would you, either a Republican or a Democrat's going to win?
With a Republican, you get 0% of what you're all about.
With a Democrat, you get 90% of what you're about.
Wouldn't you rather take 90% than zero?
And it's like, no, you're looking at it all wrong.
It's not that by voting for a Democrat, I get, quote, 90% of my platform.
You look at situations like this, voting for a Democrat, I get stuff I don't want because they do fracking too, because they're in bed with the fossil fuel industry.
90%?
No, I want a single-payer healthcare system.
And they don't stand for that.
I want to end the wars.
They're expanding them.
I want to break up the banks.
They made them bigger.
I want to end fracking.
They're expanding fracking.
I want a livable wage.
They won't commit.
You don't get any fucking thing.
That's why people don't.
If you got 90% of what you wanted, everybody would be thrilled to vote for the Democrats.
And you wouldn't have half the country not voting.
This isn't like we're not getting a cherry on top of our fucking Sunday.
This is like we didn't get a meal.
There's no meal.
And they're like, why don't you keep voting for us?
Because there's nothing to vote for.
So this idea that I would love to ask that person, what's the 90% that you got?
Where's the 90%?
Name the 90% that you got.
Because Obamacare is a right-wing fucking program invented by the Heritage Foundation.
It's not a lefty program.
Barack Obama gave it to us.
We would have gotten it without Barack Obama because that was their fucking plan.
It was Romney care.
Remember, Romney care?
So that's why it's important to vote Democrat, because if you voted for Mitt Romney, we would have got Romney care.
But we voted for Barack Obama, so we got RomneyCare with no public option.
And that was by Barack Obama's hand, his design.
We could have had public option.
All he had to do was put it in the bill.
He took it out.
Barack Obama did that.
People have no idea what Barack Obama did.
They have no idea.
If people actually knew what Barack Obama did, they would be screaming fucking bloody murder.
And nobody would say, why wouldn't you vote for the Democrat over there?
No one would say that if they had any idea what fucking Barack Obama did.
But they don't have any idea.
They don't know Barack Obama opened up the Arctic to drilling twice when he was at every time he was asked by Shale Oil, he fucking did it.
Well, of course people don't know.
That's why they're trying to sell this all of the above approach.
Again, we've heard that before.
We heard that from Barack Obama and all the above meant Drill Baby Drill.
That's what all the above meant.
It just sounded nicer than Drill Baby Drill.
It sounds nicer than Drill Baby Drill.
Exactly right.
That's what that's the same policy.
And everybody's upset at Trump for climate change.
Barack Obama, the biggest oil extraction boom in the history of this country happened under Barack Obama.
He was really a climate fighter, huh?
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Hi, everybody.
Welcome to the Jimmy Door show.
I'm here with Steph Samurano and Ron Placone.
Hi, Jim.
Hello.
All right.
We warned you or we predicted and we said that, by the way, it's easy to predict that once censorship starts and everybody's cool with it, it's not stopping.
So when they went after Alex Jones, because he's so hated and so vile, which he is, but let's remember what Chomsky says.
If you don't stand up for speech that disgusts you, you're not for freedom of speech.
That's what this is about.
When I was a kid, the ACL used to defend the Nazis when they would march in Skokie in Chicago, which was a lot of Jewish people in Skokie.
So the Nazis liked to march there to piss them off.
And the ACLU would defend their right.
And we all understood that they weren't defending Nazis.
They were defending freedom of speech.
Because if you can take it away from someone you hate, you can take it away from someone you like.
So when this happened with Alex Jones, of course, a bunch of knuckleheads made the stupid, lazy argument, which is also wrong, that you're defending Alex Jones.
No one is.
We're standing up for a principle.
And the principle is called free speech, which is different than freedom of speech.
Freedom of speech is ensconced in the First Amendment.
Free speech comes out of the Enlightenment, which is an ideal that you're against censorship, no matter if it comes from the government, a religion, or a corporation.
And we told you that Facebook is a monopoly, just like YouTube is a monopoly.
Google, these are monopolies.
And what we should do is break them up.
We're not going to do that.
So then what we should do is then treat them like a public utility, just like the internet.
So you can't just take someone's public utility away from.
You can't, if you're ATT, you can't just turn off the phone on someone because you don't like what they're saying.
The view of this show and lots of other people or some other, not lots, some other people is that Facebook and YouTube and Google are monopolies.
And the fact that it's the law that Facebook is a private company and they can de-platform anybody when they feel like it doesn't make it right.
Used to be the law that Rosa Parks had to sit at the back of the bus that didn't make it right.
It made it horrible.
So now we have Facebook and Google controlling the information flow in America.
And whoever controls the information flow controls the goddamn country.
And so it's really dangerous to let a few people control that much information flow.
And so we have to put some protections in.
And so when I say the government should regulate Facebook and YouTube, I don't mean they should run it.
I mean they should put protections in that protect us and guarantee our free speech.
Remember, the answer to bad speech isn't censorship.
It's more speech.
We said there's going to be unintended consequences for all the knuckleheads on the left who are cheering on the deplatforming of Alex Jones.
And well, lo and behold, here it is.
Tell us, Facebook has deleted our Facebook page for a second time this year without any explanation.
Two weeks ago, we learned about a new campaign against inauthentic content conducted by Facebook in consultation with Congress and the secretive think tank, the Atlantic Council.
So this is an article written this week by Matt Taibbi and Rolling Stone.
And this is some stunning info.
Hey, Jimmy, before you go on, let's go back to that first paragraph real quick here where they say conducted by Facebook in consultation with Congress.
All the people that are saying when we talk about, you know, free speech principles and how Facebook should be a utility, all the people saying, oh, you mean the government's going to regulate and stuff?
Look, Facebook and the government are in bed already anyway and not in a good way.
So Julian Assange laid this out.
In 2010, I saw a speech that he gave.
He said, when the censorship happens in modern times now, it will be through the corporate state.
So that Congress, in consultation with the Atlantic Council, do you know the Atlantic Council?
The Atlantic Council is the people who got us in every illegal war since 1970.
Well, even before that, because Henry Kissinger is on the Atlantic Council, and he was instrumental in the Vietnam War, which was a big lie.
And then the first Gulf War, which is also a big lie.
The last Gulf War in Iraq, also a big lie.
Libya, also a big lie.
Syria, also a big lie.
So these MFers in consultation with Congress are doing the censoring.
So it is the government through the corporate state, just like Ron just said, just like Julian Assange predicted.
And why are they doing it?
Why would Facebook roll over to Congress?
Because they don't want them to break them up.
Because they're a monopoly.
They don't want them to break.
They don't want regulation.
They're like, what?
Okay, we'll do it.
Don't worry.
So there he goes.
The Atlanta Council, whose board includes an array of ex-CIA and Homeland Security officials in the name of cracking down on alleged Russian disinformation efforts.
So also, like we told you, the knuckleheads on the left whose instinct is to and reflex is right wing, even if they're on the left, their instinct is right wing, and they're pushing Russia Gate with zero evidence, even though William Binney, the top NSA code breaker, has told you when the CIA says we have high confidence, that means they have no evidence.
That means they're lying.
So the people pushing RussiaGate, and we've said on this show, and we've warned them that when you push RussiaGate, it will come back to be used on you.
As soon as you go against anything the establishment wants, whether it be single-payer health care or whether it be the next war or the current wars, they will then smear you as a Russian.
And what's happening?
Well, as a part of a bizarre alliance of internet news distributors and quasi-government censors, the social network zapped 32 Facebook accounts and pages, including an ad for a real No Unite the Right 2.
That was an anti-racist counter rally in DC.
They took something that's anti-racist.
They took down to left.
Last week, we saw another flurry of censorship news.
Facebook apparently suspended VenezuelaAnalysis.com, a site critical of U.S. policy towards Venezuela.
You know, because the United States is trying to overthrow another sovereign government as we scream about Russia putting Facebook memes up that nobody saw.
We're actually trying to overthrow a government.
Twitter suspended a pair of libertarians, including Daniel McAdams of the Ron Paul Institute and Scott Horton show of antiwar.com for using the word bitch directed towards a man in a silly political argument.
They too were later reinstated.
More significantly, Google's former head of free expression issues in Asia, Lochman Su, blasted the tech giants' plan to develop a search engine that would help the Chinese government censor content.
First reported by the Intercept, the plan was called a stupid, stupid move by Tsai.
I guess that's how it's pronounced, who added, I can't see a way to operate Google search in China without violating widely held international human rights standards.
So do you understand what Google's doing?
So China won't let Google in China because China doesn't want people to have access to information because they're an oppressive fascist communist government.
So Google wasn't allowed to be in China.
And then they were like, well, how about if we invent a Google that sends pre-censors out all the stuff you guys don't want your people to read?
Then can we get a Google in there?
They're literally going to governments facilitating censorship.
Oh, no problem.
We'll give you a search engine.
Google will give you a search engine and we'll figure out how to make an algorithm that takes out all the information that undermines your fascism.
Google's going to do that.
Remember, they used to have a motto called Do No Evil.
Wasn't that it?
Do no evil?
There they were trying to get in bed with the Chinese government to help them carry out censorship in their own fascist way.
These are the people you want to give freedom to decide who gets to speak on monopolistic platforms like YouTube, Google, and Facebook.
These are the people you want deciding.
Yes, it is.
A lot of people on the left, totally okay with it because Alex Jones is a jerk.
And of course, they don't know anything about what I'm talking about now because they're lazy and they don't really care about the issue and they don't understand what it means to have a principle.
So they don't have principles.
What they have is hatred for Alex Jones and then they'll have principles afterwards.
So that's what Google's doing.
Isn't that, come on, is that a little bit mind-blowing that they're doing that?
They're going to aid the Chinese government in carrying out fascism and censorship.
They're going to give them a search engine that censors out stuff that's contrary to fascism.
But it made sense like this was the next step.
And a lot of this stuff happened simultaneously.
I mean, before the Alex Jones thing happened, there were already, you know, these anti-war sites and so forth being blocked and throttled by Facebook or being deleted from Facebook.
So, I mean, for a long time now, this has been seen as an alarm.
And I think people, especially people on the left that are trying to just make it about Alex Jones.
They do the mental gymnastics necessary by trying to downplay Facebook's influence by trying to be like, well, Facebook's just, I mean, does every newspaper have to publish every blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
No, that's not what Facebook is.
Yes.
Facebook is not a publisher.
It's not a utility and it's not a publisher.
You're not a publisher.
Facebook is.
By the way, there's a law that was written in 1996 that says they can't be sued for whatever goes on their platforms.
You can't be sued for it.
That's in the law.
Yeah, and as we've said, that's an example of them wanting to have their cake and eat it too.
Yes.
Because they're saying, oh, yeah, we're just an open source thing.
We're just, anyone can have a profile or whatever.
Well, unless we don't like it, we have to enforce it.
Unless Henry Kissinger says he doesn't like you or Congress says they don't like you, then we'll take it down because Congress told us or Henry Kissinger told us.
That's crazy.
That's what a lot of people on the left are literally advocating.
This came, them helping the Chinese carry out their fascistic censorship.
That came on the heels of news that Israeli, I can't pronounce that, Knesset passed a second reading of a Facebook bill authorizing courts to delete content on security grounds.
That doesn't sound vague at all.
That doesn't sound vague.
That's totally.
See, it's security, security, the court said.
Few Americans heard these stories.
Why?
Well, because the big censorship news last week surrounded widely hated Alex Jones.
After surviving halting actions by Facebook and YouTube the week before, the screeching Infowars lunatic was hit decisively removed from Apple, Facebook, Google, and Spotify.
Well, and the irony of ironies is that Alex Jones, conspiracy theorist, literally gets taken down by an actual conspiracy of the huge corporations he claims to be fighting against.
That's hilarious.
It's ironic.
Is that not ironic?
Very much so.
So now the people who follow Alex Jones believe what he says even more because of this.
And of course, his app popularity went through the roof because of this.
And anyway, it's amazing.
And yet, this is Matt Taibbi speaking.
And yet, I didn't celebrate when Jones was banned.
Collectively, all these stories represent a revolutionary moment in media.
So there's a revolutionary moment in media happening right now.
And the people who are applauding the censorship of Alex Jones are missing this.
Just like they're missing what happened with RussiaGate.
Russagate was an invention by the establishment in the Democratic Party to take the focus Off the electoral fraud that happened in the primary, and that's why they lost to Donald Trump.
That's why we have Donald Trump.
So all these stories represent a revolutionary moment in media.
Jones is an incidental player in a much larger narrative.
So people focusing on Jones are missing the point?
Of course they are.
He's an Matt Taibbi says he's an incidental player in a much larger narrative.
Both the Jones situation and the Facebook Atlantic Council deletions seem an effort to fulfill a request made last year by the Senate Judiciary Committee.
So this is a corporation bending to the will of the government.
Again, this is government censorship.
They're just telling the corporation to do it.
And the corporation does it.
And then idiots who don't think deeply go on Twitter and every place else and say, no, it's a private company.
They can do whatever they want.
And I've lightly read about this.
Maybe I read a paragraph about this.
I'm semi-kind of informed, but I'm going to come and tell you you're wrong.
Last October, Facebook, Google, and Twitter were asked by Hawaii Senator Maisie Hisono to draw up a mission statement to prevent, get this, prevent the foment of Discord.
What?
Yes.
Like that is like, wow.
Wow.
Yeah.
Again, this doesn't scare anybody on the left for some reason who are pushing this fucking censorship as a good thing and doing mental gymnastics to pretend that it's just Alex and it's okay because of this and that and his terms of service and da, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
That's all bullshit arguments.
We've knocked them down already.
And how do you really measure the degree of fomenting?
Oh, yeah.
You know, like how I'm pushing Discord.
I'm not fomenting it.
I'm just tapping the Discord.
It's okay.
I'm going to tap into the Discord that's already been fomented.
When Google announced it was tightening its algorithm to push more authoritative content, that's what Google's doing.
Google's deciding what you see and what you don't see.
Do you get how they control information now?
Do you get how they control information?
Last April, it defined fake news as blatantly misleading.
Get this, low quality.
Fake news is low quality.
It's low quality news.
How about weapons of mass destruction?
Was that low quality?
Would you take that Washington Post editorial down from Facebook because it's low quality?
How about it?
Offensive or downright false.
Well, when all the news media said that Saddam had WMDs, which is why we went to war, that was false.
And that was misleading.
And it was low quality.
And it was offensive to me.
That didn't get taken down.
In fact, I could put that up today.
I can put that editorial from the Washington Post claiming that Saddam has weapons of mass destruction and saying we should go to war.
I could put that up on Facebook today, even though it's all those things.
It's misleading.
It's low quality.
It's offensive.
And it's downright false information.
And they would never take that down.
The low quality thing is actually especially disturbing.
So anybody can get censored now.
Well, no, not just that, but with the low quality part, you know, I think it's because there's a little bit of power that we have as people now because we have these in our pockets.
We have these in our pockets.
Mitt Romney lost because there was a guy behind the catering table that had one of these in his pockets.
And he said this 47% comment.
Some people are going to want to hear this.
That's what helped that guy lose that election.
Yep.
So there's power in these in our pockets now, especially when a police officer is doing something they're not supposed to or whatever else it may be.
So that low quality thing is especially disturbing.
Yes, that's especially to discourage citizen journalism.
And let's remember that traditionally the job of newsmaker or news reporter was given to the poor in the country.
Rich people didn't become news people like they do today.
Henderson Cooper is a member of the Vanderbilt family.
Those people, because you know why because he goes make some millions of dollars reading a teleprompter.
Used to be real newsmen were disliked and they came from the lower class.
It isn't clear, but within short order, a whole range of alternative sites from alternate to truth dig to the world socialist website started complaining about significant drops in traffic, apparently thanks to change search processes.
So the fact that they do these algorithms in secret, that's already a scandal.
To me, that's already a scandal.
So they can push whichever news story they want in their algorithm and we don't know they're pushing it.
They can push whatever video or news channel, anything.
And it's done in private, in secret, and we don't know what it is.
The biggest people who control the information aren't transparent about how they're disseminating the information.
That's a big problem.
And no one talks about it.
They just accept it.
Well, they got a new algorithm that's screwing us.
And who are they screwing?
Lefties.
Alternate, Truth Dig, World Socialist website, the Jimmy Door show, Secular Report, The Humanist Report.
That's who they're screwing.
That's her they're deranking.
That's her they're adpocalypsing.
Secular talk.
Secular talk.
What did I say?
He's a secular report.
Oh, I said secular report.
It's secular talk.
Sorry.
Within a year, get this.
Within a year, Google bragged that it had deleted 8 million videos from YouTube.
A full 6.7 million videos were caught by machines, but 1.1 million were caught by YouTube's own trusted flaggers.
Trusted flaggers.
We're pre-writing the lexicon of the next dystopian novels, says Matt Taibi.
And 400,000 videos were flagged by normal users.
The next dystopian novel is not going to sell well because it's not going to be weirder than what's going on in the real world.
That's right.
Same reason House of Cards eventually went under.
It's like, this isn't weirder than what's going on.
Right.
What's going on right now is weirder than yours.
Might as well just make a documentary.
Is that why House of Cards went under?
I thought it was because Watch Color got caught being a toucher.
Well, yeah.
I mean, yeah.
But reality is so weirder than a little bit of everything.
It wasn't just one thing, but that was part of it, too.
For more than half a century, we had an effective ifs.
Oh, this.
So check.
So if you listen to anything else in this report, this is the part that Matt Taibbi nails.
So people go, what are you going to do?
You're just going to let Alex Jones target people and target people.
He's targeting people.
First of all, if Alex Jones is doing something that's illegal, like if people go, well, he's doxing people.
Well, if he's doxing people and that's illegal, they should fucking prosecute him.
So this is what Matt Taibbi talks about right here.
He says, for more than half a century, we had an effective, if slow, litigation-based remedy for speech violations.
The standards laid out in cases like New York Times versus Sullivan were designed to protect legitimate reporting while directly remunerating people harmed by bad speech.
I'll read it again.
The standard laid out in cases like New York Times versus Sullivan were designed to protect legitimate reporting while directly remunerating people harmed by bad speech.
So sooner or later, people like Alex Jones would always crash under crippling settlements.
Meanwhile, young reporters learned to steer clear of libel and defamation.
Knowing exactly what we could and could not get away with, empowered journalists to do their jobs, confident that the law had their backs.
But now, Matt Taibbi goes on, but now if the line of defense had not been a judge and a jury, meaning all this time, if the line of defense for journalists had not been a judge and a jury the way it traditionally has been,
but instead a giant transnational corporation working with the government, the state, well, then journalists taking on banks or tech companies or the wrong politicians would have been playing intellectual Russian roulette.
Meaning that if we can't rely on a judge-jury system, an impartial judge and an adversarial judicial process to protect journalists, we can't rely on that.
But now we're going to be subjected to giant transnational corporations working with the state.
Well, journalists are going to be less reluctant to take on banks, tech companies, or the wrong politicians because they'd be playing Russian roulette.
You don't know if someone's going to deplatform you or take your freedom away because it happens at the behest of the state without a transparent process.
There's no process.
Matt Taibbi says, in my own career, I'd have thought twice before taking on a company like Goldman Sachs.
Any reporter would.
Now the line is gone.
Depending on the platform, one can be banned for glorifying violence or sowing division.
Does this not sound like fucking Orwell?
Yeah, big question.
Holy shit.
Glorifying violence.
So I guess every action movie made ever would be banned then.
Every action movie.
Ever.
How about when the Defense Department tweets out videos of their new weapons?
How about Brian Williams?
Yeah, no kidding.
How about Brian Williams?
We're guided by the glory of, oh my God, nutting in my transport.
Yeah.
So glorify, depending on the platform, you can be banned for glorifying violence, sowing division.
Rachel Maddow.
Right?
How is she not sowing division every day?
Or hateful conduct.
Why can't I have hateful?
I hate some stuff.
Why is it illegal to hate stuff?
I hate police brutality.
I hate the police culture in America.
I hate it.
I hate religion.
I hate a lot of stuff.
Why am I not allowed to hate stuff?
That's fucked up.
Is that not allowed to be?
You saying that it's fucked up is hateful conduct, Jimmy.
That's sowing discord.
It's, yeah.
I'm fomenting.
You're sowing division.
I'm sowing division.
I'm over here fomenting stuff.
Or even low quality.
Again, there it is.
Again, people with phones.
Is that people with phones?
If I don't have HDMI or some of that, I'm not.
So if you, yeah, if it's not 1080, I don't want to.
You got, what's that?
720 p.
Get out of here, but you're 720.
That's an M4A delete.
And we only do vinyl.
The MP3 loses too much quality.
Well, that is true.
That is true.
That's why we don't, we don't, if it's an MP3 recording, we don't listen to it.
That's low quality.
So if you're going to record Denny Stoyer telling you, what is his name?
Denny Hoyer.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Why am I blanking on his real name?
The other Stenny Hoyer.
Thank you, Denny Hoyer.
Look at the graduate.
I know, Mr. Biggie.
So let's go through this one more time.
Depending on the platform, you can be banned for glorifying violence, sowing division, hateful conduct, or even low quality.
With those terms defined, and who defines those terms?
Well, nameless, unaccountable executives working with God knows whom.
Now, I was on a show yesterday, the aggressive progressives, and there was another person on that show who was literally advocating for this.
A good person, one of my best friends in the whole world.
So that's why this is scary to me, because people of good conscience are getting it wrong.
And that's why this is scary.
Matt Taibbi lays it out.
And another thing I've seen happen, and this happened with all the debates with the Jim Risen debate with Glenn Greenwald, with Kyle Kalinsky's debate with Jenk Uger about Russia Gate.
What happens is someone will say, and this happened with me.
Someone will go, I agree with that.
And then completely go on to state an opinion that contradicts agreeing with this.
They go, oh, I agree with that.
But this and this and this.
No, then you don't agree with this.
If you think this is a bad idea, that nameless, unaccountable executives working with God knows whom, usually the Atlantic Council and the Congress and government, are deplatforming people over these reasons.
If you're okay with that, there's something wrong.
You're embracing corporate fascism.
That's opaque.
That's the opposite of all of our ideals of people who live in the Western world, not just progressives or liberals or Democrats or Green.
This is everybody, conservatives, independents, lefty, we're all supposed to agree that an opaque process to take anyone's rights away is wrong.
We're all about transparency because democracy doesn't run on trust.
It runs on mistrust, which is why you have transparent, which is why courts are open.
You have an open court.
You're allowed to confront your accuser.
Go ahead.
Well, what I love to ask people, because I've been having plenty of arguments about this too, I'm just like, look, would you defend Facebook's corporate personhood over the greater good?
Because that's what you're doing.
Yes.
If it wasn't Alex Jones that got caught in the crosshair, say it was somebody you were either neutral towards or liked, would you still be defending Facebook's corporate personhood?
Here we are.
Here they are.
They're throttling truth out, alternate.
They deplatform Telesur.
all right.
And you go, well, come on.
Cause people are like, Jimmy, Alex, Joe, dude, That's what I say to those people.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The establishment has come after me specifically in this way.
They've tried to discredit us.
Why?
Because we tell the truth about war.
And we tell the truth about CNN.
And we tell the truth about the establishment news.
And so they try to discredit us.
I told people as soon as we make a difference, they're going to come at us.
And fuck if they didn't.
Jimmy, I want to read the old Google Code of Conduct that started with don't be evil.
Don't be evil.
Usually you're supposed to have an affirmative type of phrase, but don't be evil is pretty funny.
But they're like hip and stuff.
It's like, don't be evil, bro.
Right?
So don't be evil is their code of conduct.
And it said, generally apply those.
Googlers generally apply those words to how we serve our users.
But don't be evil is much more than that.
Yes, it's about providing our users unbiased access to information.
They don't do that.
It's very biased access.
They have algorithms.
Focusing on their needs and giving them the best products and services that we can.
But it's also about doing the right thing more generally, following the law, acting honorably, and treating co-workers with courtesy and respect.
So that's all gone.
That's all gone.
You know, that's all.
So, you know, although they don't have don't be evil, I guess it just must be, it's okay now.
Maybe it'll evolve to just be cool, man.
Don't care.
Relax.
Dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, don't get upset.
That's their new thing.
Dude, calm down.
Just calm down over the censorship.
That's the new slogan.
Americans are not freaking out about this because most of us...
Americans are not freaking out about this because most of us have lost the ability to distinguish between general principles and political outcomes.
So long as the right people are being zapped, no one cares.
This is what I was confronted with yesterday.
This is what I've been confronted with everywhere.
That people are upset.
They go, oh, it's wrong that Telesur is taken down.
I go, what about Alex?
Oh, no, no, that's okay.
Do you understand?
You have to be consistent.
But people aren't because they don't, because exactly, I mean, goddamn it, this is so fucking predictable.
And we predicted it.
But we should care, Matt Taibbi says.
Why should we care?
Because censorship is one of the modern man's great temptations.
Giving into it hasn't provided many happy stories.
So I have a whole...
I got to stop.
Can I, let me just say one more thing that the Google code of conduct that they added to the ending to keep the same phrase in the current one, it says, and remember, don't be evil.
And if you see something that you think isn't right, speak up.
Okay, again, stop that stuff.
See something, say something.
That's the shit that happened.
And when I was a kid, that's how they would tell us Russia was and communist countries were.
Everybody's spying on each other and everyone's tattling on each other to the government.
And now that's what's come here.
Oh my God.
Okay, well, thanks for watching the show.
And thanks for being clear-headed.
Thanks for not letting Trump steal your critical thinking skills, as Ron Placone says.
Thanks for keeping your critical thinking skills, for standing by your ideals.
Not progressive ideals, Western world's ideals.
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