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Get ready for an outstanding entertainment program.
The Jimmy Dore Show.
Hey, the Graham Cassidy repeal of Obamacare has failed again.
So let's give Senator Graham a phone call and see how he's taking this defeat.
Hello.
Senator Graham.
Speaking, who is this?
It's Jimmy Dore from the Jimmy Door Show.
Oh, hey, Jim.
Sweet, Jimmy.
How are you?
I'm doing okay, Senator, but I guess...
Okay, Lindsay, but I guess since the Graham Cassidy healthcare bill isn't going to be put up for a vote, I guess the question is, how are you doing?
Oh, I'm sad.
Yeah?
Just a little sad, not going to lie.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What are you doing right now?
I'm sitting on my veranda just being sort of sad.
Wearing a sad hat.
Do you have a sad hat, Jimmy?
I'm not really a hack guy.
I think there's a cub's cap in my closet somewhere.
Yeah, that's sad.
This just isn't my week, Jimmy.
First death, and now a bunch of agitators want to remove a statue of my Civil War ancestor, Thaddeus Cottonball Graham from a park in Charleston.
We're very proud of him.
Oh, yeah?
Oh, yes.
He was an officer in the Confederate Army and was in charge of an all-African American infantry company.
Is that so?
Yes.
His cavalry battalion captured them from a Massachusetts Union Army regiment and had them all shot as traitors.
I wanted to talk to you about the health care bill.
Is it totally dead?
Is anything totally dead, Jimmy?
I don't think so.
I have a great uncle who moans from his Charleston Mausoleum every St. Barnabas' Day.
At least that's what it sounds like to me when I've been drinking.
Look, my point is things live on.
And the dream to repeal and replace Obamacare will too.
How so?
We are going to take this show on the road.
What show?
We need the support of the people if we're going to get this done.
We, meaning the Republicans, are going to put on our populist hats and go to all of the 50 states and convince people that Obamacare has ruined their lives.
Are you kidding?
Of course not.
Am I wearing my disingenuous hat right now?
Which, by the way, is a giant sombrero with a bunch of black corn chips along the brim.
And I'm not, by the way.
Otherwise, I wouldn't be so flipping hungry, L-O-L.
Anyways.
Why is it so hard to fathom trucking through the heartland, convincing the hardworking real Americans of the United States that anything from that demon Obama is worthy of destruction?
Me and Ted Cruz are thinking of traveling by train.
It's such a traditional way to travel.
Ooh, we'll call it the racist dog whistle stop tour.
That sounds disgusting.
Once we remind them that it is more important for our healthcare industry to thrive and for them to make money, possibly themselves through a trickle-down thing of some sort, than this annoying pre-existing condition thing that everyone keeps harping on.
Oh my God, give me a break with this shit.
Big deal.
Let it go.
I mean, bitch, please.
Glad to see you've got the best interests of the American people in mind.
Oh, honey biscuits, you have no idea.
You just don't know how much I care.
I don't know.
Sugarnuts.
I don't, but seriously, Lindsay, how can you sleep at night knowing you're actually taking health care away from people and making people's lives harder?
Oh, I sleep wonderfully in a big bed, you know, those canopy beds.
Oh, it feels great.
I sleep very well because I know that I'm helping the American economy.
Oh, so...
Oh.
And if the economy does well magically, people's health care will do well, too.
Do you understand?
Yeah, no, I don't.
That's not how it works.
Well, then maybe you should just shush.
I'm not going to shush.
No, I think you should shush.
If you don't know how this works, then you just shush, okay?
Okay, I'm not shushing, and you're the one who's doing it.
Okay, bye now.
Are you going to stay shushed to talk to IKIN?
Okay, I'll stay shushed.
Bye.
Okay, okay, cheers.
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Hey, everybody, welcome to this week's Jimmy Dore Show.
Oh, we're fresh off the live show Monday night in San Diego.
What a great time.
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Desperate for some progressive comedy down there.
God bless those people lying around the block sold-out show.
Everybody had a blast.
So our next live show, by the way, is October 7th.
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Okay, guess what?
We just got back from Vancouver.
Also, we were at the Peter Ellard Prize Award Ceremony.
Glenn Greenwald was the keynote speaker.
We talked with him.
That's going to be in next week's show.
That's right.
We didn't have time to get that into this week's show.
Next week's show.
What a tease, huh?
I know.
I know.
But coming up on this week's show, hey, is Medicare for All a lefty idea or is it a mainstream idea?
The answer just may surprise you.
Or will it?
Hey, are the Democrats committed to cutting the Pentagon budget?
The answer won't surprise you one bit.
Plus, we're going to take a look at Colin Kaepernick and why Trump is really wrong about it.
And Bob Costas breaks it down for us.
He has a great, great little rant at Bob Costas.
We're going to feature that.
Also, we got phone calls coming up today from Mike in St. Louis talking about all the crazy police shootings and rioting that's been going on in St. Louis.
Plus, George Clooney calls in.
Plus a lot lot more.
And that's today on the Jimmy Dora Show.
you Hey, everybody, welcome to the Jimmy Door Show.
I'm here with Political Vigilante, Graham Melwood, and Rob Placogue.
Hello.
Howdy, howdy.
So there's a new poll out, and it turns out a majority of Americans now support single-payer.
I saw a Paul Harris poll last December's, no, Kaiser did a poll in December of 2016.
They had a higher number than this.
But so now it's official because this is a Harvard Harris poll.
They found 52% favor a single-payer system.
I'm sure if Hillary was president, that'd be the same.
Anyway, no, because anyway, a strong majority of Democrats, 69% back the idea.
Now, I saw the poll where 81% of Democrats favor single-payer.
So this is a different poll.
It has a lower number, 69%, 69.
And they round it down on purpose.
They round it down because it was closer to the business.
But they were like, come on, we got out of that.
For the kids out there.
So I've seen 81% of Democrats, Democrats support it.
That's what I've seen.
And over 60% of Americans believe that government should be responsible for providing health care, making sure, so that's for sure.
And so right here, now, so now it's official.
Almost every poll taken says the same thing.
The majority of Americans are in favor of single-payer health care.
So that's not a far-left idea.
Like as Chuck Todd would want you to think, or Rachel Maddow, or Chris Hayes, it's not a far-left idea.
These are mainstream ideas that Bernie's pushing.
It's the establishment is about three decades behind, along with MSNBC and the establishment press.
They, oh, they still do that.
Bernie's a far lefter.
No, Bernie's left.
You know who's not?
Hillary Clinton's right.
They're not left at all.
So Bernie Sanders is not far left.
This is a majority opinion in the goddamn country.
Not only inside the Democratic Party, in the whole goddamn country.
This isn't a lefty idea anymore.
This is a mainstream idea, isn't it?
That's what that means.
But, Jimmy, is it a pie-in-the-sky idea that's maybe unattainable?
Oh, wait, no, it works most places in the world.
Never mind.
Yeah, there's 22 countries that have it or something like that.
Republicans oppose single payer 65 to 35, according to this poll.
I've seen it.
I've seen it up higher for Republicans wanting it than this.
But according to this poll, 65 to 35 and independents are split, 51% opposing it and 49 supporting it.
So given all of the, so it's very much right down the middle, except for Republicans, right?
So everybody's for it, except for half the Republican Party.
Is that it?
I mean, that's actually, I'm surprised it's that high for Republicans.
You mean if it's 35%?
I mean, I'm seeing polls higher.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
Now listen to this.
Now, this is the guy who runs the poll.
Given all the discontent with healthcare and desire for coverage, single payer has more support than I have seen in the past with the country split down the middle, said Harvard Harris poll co-director Mark Penn.
That's not the same Mark Penn who ran Hillary's campaign, right?
That's a different Mark Penn, right?
I don't know.
But healthcare questions like this are before there has been a public debate on the costs and the effect of a single source for plans.
And we have often seen support disappear after that kind of debate.
When did you see that disappear before?
When has this debate ever happened?
What is he fucking talking about?
When has this debate ever happened in America?
We had a serious single-payer debate in America?
When?
Did we ever have one, Ron?
Graham?
I can't remember one.
I mean, I remember Jerry Brown when he was running for president in 1992 saying it was doable.
Yes.
And then I remember him earlier this year saying it wasn't doable.
Right.
He argued with his past self.
But we have like a big national, we've talked about this a little, but we've never had a huge debate.
We've never had a debate like this.
I remember from the first George Bush going, oh, socialized medicine.
And the Republicans tried to demonize it with the S-word, saying if we use socialized medicine, then you're going to wait in line for bread like the Soviets or whatever bullshit thing.
But we've never had a real debate.
We've never had people flooding town halls saying, where's my health care?
We've never had people lining up at the Capitol building and then being dragged out because they're in wheelchairs.
We've never had this debate ever.
Right.
I remember a bunch of nurses being told to shut up by someone in Sacramento, but I'm pretty sure a debate is when two parties discuss.
Oh.
Yeah.
So that, so that, again, that's a guy who makes me feel like he wants to poo-poo this idea off the right out of the gate.
And it's probably why their numbers were lower than I thought they should be because maybe they're asking the questions in a wrong way.
Who knows?
52% said a government-run system would save the healthcare system money, while 48% said it would be more expensive.
So those 52% are actually getting accurate information.
And the 48% are getting inaccurate information because we all know that a single-payer system saves us billions, if not trillions of dollars over the long run.
And it actually lowers the cost per person.
So you might pay a little bit of a higher tax, but you're not paying an insurance premium anymore.
You're not paying out-of-pocket copays.
You're not paying for prescription drugs.
All that stuff.
If you have health insurance, you're still paying for it three times.
Right.
You're paying your premium.
You're paying the copay.
And then you're paying the overages.
What do you mean, the overages?
Stuff that they don't cover.
Oh, when your insurance company just decides not to pay for stuff.
Right.
Which is all the time.
All the time.
You go get a procedure and they say, oh, you got the, the doctor says you got to get an MRI.
MRI costs $2,500.
The insurance company covers $1,250 of it.
Right.
You know, and then you're good with a bill.
I had insurance and I had to pay for it three times.
Right.
And not only that, but then you are taxed to pay for all the other people who don't have health insurance who go to the emergency room and get covered anyway.
Right.
52% said single pay will improve the efficiency of the healthcare system.
And 53% they believe they'd be able to keep their current doctor.
Well, if you know how Medicare works, even talk to your grandparents or if you have your parents who are on it, talk to them.
They'll tell you how Medicare works.
You go to the doctor, any doctor you want.
Works great.
So now here's the thing I don't understand.
If 52% said single payer will improve efficiency, then it says 51% said the single-payer system will lead to runaway government spending in higher taxes.
So those two things contradict each other in the same poll.
How could 52% believe it would lower costs and then 52% think it would be a Craig's cost?
That doesn't make sense to me from this poll.
And so this is all wrong.
51% that the single-payer system would lead to runaway government spending and higher taxes.
Yes, it would lead to higher taxes, but lower pre, so you'd the net cost is less.
We'd all save money.
So these people need to be educated.
What do they even mean by it will lead to runaway government spending?
Like, what do they even mean by that?
Are they referring to the billions that go into missiles and defense?
I guess that what they mean?
Nobody is worried about runaway government spending when it comes to bombs.
They're spending $700 billion More, which is $80 billion a year more for bombs that we don't need.
That we don't need.
Tanks and bombs.
Like, when is this conventional ground war?
Not stopping.
And that whole idea that we don't have the money is bullshit.
And they just proved it by spending that extra $80 billion a year with no debate.
So we're spending an extra $80 billion a year on military.
No debate.
Nobody asks who we're going to pay for it, how we're going to pay for it.
We print our own fucking money.
That's how we're going to pay for it.
We print our own money in America.
That's how we pay for everything.
That's how we pay for endless wars.
I mean, that's the thing, too.
Like, if no one, no one, everyone says nothing's affordable because they refuse.
No one is even willing to look at the military budget.
Right.
It's ridiculous.
We could cut our military budget in half easily and still outspend everybody.
Everybody.
Oh, definitely.
We'd still outspend everybody.
Everybody.
And we could take that money and give health care for everybody and a college education and a Green New Deal and a high-speed rail and a new power grid and an infrastructure.
I mean, we could, the whole country would be this futuristic amazing place.
I just want to have the same kind of internet speeds as they have in Latvia.
Yes.
That's all.
Or South Korea.
I want to have the same internets.
Yeah, we should have a kick-ass country.
We don't.
Why?
Because the oligarchs and the corporate credits and the predatory capitalists got control of our government and it's over.
It's fucking over.
They tell you you can't have free college.
You can't have universal single payer, but we can spend another $80 billion a year.
Extra on the military.
Extra, $80 billion, which would have given everybody free college forever.
That's pie in the sky.
So we live in completely corrupted times, right?
So our government is completely corrupted.
Democrats, we showed you that video.
Barack Obama brags that he's a Republican, a moderate Republican.
This is the world we're living in.
And by the way, single payer, not a lefty idea anymore.
It's officially fucking mainstream.
We're talking about this.
This is what he said.
Wouldn't you love to see one of these NFL owners when somebody disrespects our flag to say, get that son of a bitch off the field right now?
Out.
He's fired.
He's fired.
So, you know where they do stuff like that?
Where they you get punished for not being sufficiently patriotic?
Places like North Korea.
That's where they do stuff like that.
The old Soviet Union.
That's where they did stuff like that.
I was brought up.
I was brought up thinking that we're the greatest country in the world because we have the freedom of speech.
That's what the flag stands for.
But of course, a mouth-breathing knucklehead-like idiot doesn't know that or chooses not to know that.
So this is, and so all you right-wingers are Trump voters who value freedom and liberty.
This is the opposite of that.
This is called a fucking totalitarian, authoritarian.
That's what this shit is.
This is fascism.
This is the government telling a private company to fucking discipline someone who's not sufficiently patriotic.
And you think the fucking left wing wants to turn this place into a nanny state?
That's a fucking right-wing, authoritarian, totalitarian state right fucking there.
That's fascism.
That's what that is.
And I know a lot of you, I've been noticing a lot of you guys can't handle criticism of Trump.
Fucking grow up.
That's what that is.
You think you love?
You can't love that and love freedom.
You can't love that and love liberty.
You can't love that and love what the flag fucking stands for.
That's why that's stupid.
That's why that's the opposite of America.
That's the exact opposite of what America stands for.
This whole goddamn country was started on one huge protest, you mouth breathers.
That's what this whole goddamn country is.
And listen to the assholes fucking cheering this guy.
That's the first thing about what it means to what America means.
You guys would feel a lot more comfortable in places like East Germany 30 years ago or 40 years ago.
You guys, that's what you saw.
You're like, you want to live behind the Iron Curtain.
You want to live in North Korea.
You want to live in China, China?
That's what it sounds like you guys like.
Because that's the opposite of that.
And it just shows how ignorant you guys can be.
That whole room full of people, plus King Ignoramus, Donatanahans.
That's disgusting.
That is disgusting.
And watch the people do mental gymnastics underneath to defend that.
That's disgusting.
So, yeah, that's the opposite of America.
That's Trump being a freaking idiot.
That's Trump being and pandering to knee-jerk moron.
And you know, if they did brain scans on those people, that they're more hooked up to their limbic brain.
They're more hooked up to their reptilian brain.
That's all emotion.
That's not intellect.
Because if you used your intellect there, you would realize, hey, that's contradictory to what we actually say we stand for and believe.
This is actually the thing we're supposed to be standing against in North Korea.
This is actually the...
But no, it's all emotion.
I hate that black guy.
I love cops.
I'm a bootlicking freaking patriot.
You're a bootlicker if you have a problem with what Callan Kaepernick's doing.
You're a bootlicker.
Have some...
I could never.
That's why I could never be a right-winger, man.
I hate authority.
Authority's bullshit.
I always stand up against authority.
Always.
So this whole thing about you can't speak bad about cop.
Right-wingers will love cops and shit like that.
Ugh.
It's that it's the opposite of being a tough guy.
That is being a fucking subservient little bootlicker.
So that's why Trump is wrong.
But that's who Trump is.
I mean, he's got the, yeah, he has the emotional development of, I don't know, a 12-year-old.
That's about where it stops for him.
And that's what this is.
But our nation, we're a nation of adult children of alcoholics.
That's who responds like that.
Yeah, screw the guy who's the messenger.
Screw the guy who reminds us of what this country actually stands for, which is freedom and liberty.
That's what that is.
And that's why Trump is wrong about this.
That's why he's a moron about this.
And that's why if you don't see what's wrong with that, then I would actually, that's why I think we should have some kind of a poll test to vote.
Because if you don't see that that's the opposite of America, then you should go live somewhere where that's cool and encouraged.
Well, that's actually being encouraged here now, I guess.
So maybe you're in the right place.
So I don't know how you can watch this show and think or like this show and think that that's at any point that that's cool.
So and so there's a lot and a lot.
Everybody's protesting against it, and that's great.
But that's a way to bring the country together, right?
Start telling private companies to fire their employees who aren't sufficiently patriotic.
We're going to have a Patriot Test now.
I think that's, again, I think that's what they have.
So now we got McCarthyism on the left, and we got this on the right.
This is what we guess where we have the Democrats offering us McCarthyism on steroids and Trump being his typical knee-jerk, mouth-breathing fascist.
So if you have a problem, if you don't have a problem with that, you have a problem with America.
You have a problem with the Constitution.
You have the problem with the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights.
You have a problem with a lot of shit, but you don't have a problem with Collard Kaepernick.
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So that's Trump pressing the emotional button of knee-jerk morons who don't think through an issue.
And that's him encouraging fascism.
That's what that is.
That's him telling private companies to fire an employee who's not sufficiently patriotic.
I just want to say, you know, you can hear that that crowd has also internalized that.
Oh, we're so worried about the owners of an NFL team that their rights have been so trampled upon all these years.
When are the NFL owners finally going to get their break?
Financially.
So here's what the NFL Players Association said.
And I'll read it to you because it's very well put.
I'm going to read it to you.
Here we go.
The peaceful demonstrations by some of our players have generated a wide array of responses.
Those opinions are protected speech and a freedom that has been paid for by the sacrifice of men and women throughout history.
This expression of speech has generated thoughtful discussions in our locker rooms and in boardrooms.
However, the line that marks the balance between the rights of every citizen in our great country gets crossed when someone is told to just shut up and play.
That's a pretty good say, that's pretty good.
That line that marks the balance between the rights of every citizen in our great country gets crossed when someone is told to just shut up and play.
I like that.
NFL players do incredible things to contribute to their communities.
NFL players, like Colin Kappin, it's already donated a million dollars recently.
NFL players are part of a legacy of athletes in all sports who throughout history chose to be informed about the issues that impact them and their communities.
They chose and still choose today to do something about those issues rather than comfortably living in the bubble of sports.
Their decision is no different from the one made by countless others who refuse to let what they do define or restrict who they are as Americans.
Nice.
No man or woman should ever have to choose a job that forces them to surrender their rights.
Well said.
No worker nor any athlete, professional or not, should be forced to become less than human when it comes to protecting their basic health and safety.
We understand that our job as a union is not to win on popularity contests, and it comes with a duty to protect the rights of our members.
For that, we make no apologies and never will.
That is fantastic.
That is amazingly well put, unlike what I'm doing.
Right?
I don't know.
I guess that I'm going to say that sums it up.
It's always good to hear when a union is able to get it right on such an important issue.
It's so relevant right now to our culture.
And it really supports so many issues.
It's, oh, there's so many good lines in there.
I just want to say that one line again.
The line that marks the balance between the rights of every citizen in our society gets crossed when someone is told to shut up and play.
No man or woman should ever have to choose a job that forces them to surrender their rights.
No worker nor any athlete, professional or not, should be forced to become less than human when it comes to protecting their basic health and safety.
Man, all I can say is that's some awesome stuff.
It speaks for itself.
And who thought the NFL Players Association would get it so right?
Not me.
They don't really take care of their own players as well as they should, is why I say that.
The other unions do a better job than the NFL does.
I think the NFL union has been co-opted a little bit by the ownership.
That's been the accusation for many years in the NFL.
I wish Ben Mankowitz was here.
He knows everything there is to know about sports.
Right?
Yeah.
So there you go.
No person should have to become less than human when it comes to protecting their basic health and safety.
So yeah, oh, God, turns out Trump got this wrong.
And people, another thing, here's why Trump did this because it looks like John McCain killed his health care repeal again.
So everybody stopped talking about his huge, another huge legislative fail.
And now what are everybody talking about?
This, which just puffs up his base.
And, you know, there's a lot of people on both sides or on all sides of every issue in all stripes of political walks who have a knee-jerk, negative reaction to people protesting.
Yeah, why you got to obstruct traffic?
Someone's just trying to get to work.
That's the whole point of fucking.
Why don't you go protest in your house where it doesn't bug anybody and doesn't get any attention?
That's what I would do.
So thank you, NFL Players Association, for getting it right.
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Okay, so there's been a lot of unrest in St. Louis recently with the police not held accountable for what a lot of people consider murder.
So let's check in with our friend of the show, Mike from St. Louis.
Hey, Mike, are you on the line?
Yeah.
Hey, is this Jimmy?
Yeah, this is.
How you doing, Mike?
Good.
You sound pretty good.
How do I sound on your end over there?
Yeah, you sound great.
Listen, how are things down there in St. Louis now with the rioting?
Is the connection good for you?
Yeah, yes, Mike.
It's good.
Now, Mike, St. Louis has really been like a powder keg almost, right?
There's been a lot of.
Ah, geez, yeah.
Meyer with this shit.
Yeah, I mean, it was Ferguson, when we first got to know you, it was because of Ferguson, and now...
It's not like I've forgotten Ferguson.
Jesus Christ, that was a nightmare.
So what's happening?
What's going on?
What is going on?
Well, there was some cop who was accused of murder, I guess, whatever they call it when you kill somebody.
Yeah, it's murder.
But he was a cop, so it's obviously fine.
But people got all worked up because there was he was chasing this black guy around, and apparently they claimed there was a video of him planting a gun on the guy.
I watched it.
You don't know what happened.
You can't tell from the video what happened.
He could have been putting a sandwich in that guy's bag.
We don't know.
So I like to trust the cops.
And then the other thing was they, you know, you can hear in the video in the police car chasing the guy that he eventually blew his head off.
He said, he quote, I'm sorry about the saucy language, but I try to be an accurate reporter for the Jimmy Darr show over here.
But they said, I'm going to kill this motherfucker.
And people point to that as evidence that he killed him, which he did.
But is it murder?
Who knows?
Well, I mean, he said he was going to...
Oh, no, of course not.
He didn't have a gun.
But my point is, I've said that chasing down my own kid.
I'm going to kill this motherfucker.
And holding a gun while I'm saying it.
So that doesn't mean that he was going to actually kill the guy.
But he did kill the guy.
But he did, but is it murder?
That's the question.
Well, yes, if you say that and then you kill him, then it is that's murder.
No, no, it's not that cut and dry.
It's not that cut and dry.
I'm pretty sure it is, Mike.
That's that's so anyway.
It goes to a judge, not a jury.
There's a judge who looks at it and he thinks long and hard over it, like that's his job.
You know, it's his job to do.
Right.
And then he says, you know, the guy's not guilty.
And everybody goes fucking bananas.
Yeah, well.
Just like they always do.
Whenever something doesn't go their way, people have to go out there and block I-70 and I-40 and Interstate 44 and shut everything down because they didn't get their way.
When you say get their way, you mean that a policeman wasn't held accountable for murdering a citizen?
Exactly.
Everyone wants to go after the cops every time that they murder somebody.
You know, every time the cops kill somebody in the line of duty, everyone wants to make it seem like a big deal.
And guess what?
Maybe he shouldn't have been breaking the law.
Yeah, but the cop doesn't get to be judge and jury and institute the death penalty before a trial.
The judge gets to be judge and jury, and he said he's fine.
So I don't understand what the big deal is.
So you don't.
So anyway, what happened?
I don't know if you saw this, but everyone turned into a pack of fucking animals.
Oh, come on, Mike.
What?
Come on.
Hey, what?
That's what you have me on the show for.
Okay.
Is that kind of commentary?
Yeah, okay.
And then what they did is they marched around the central west end, right?
Yeah.
And they start throwing, they destroyed a fucking library, first of all.
And they're going around throwing.
Here's the thing that the media doesn't understand.
All these fucking lefties are like, yeah, good for them.
This is the gay part of town.
That literally is the gay neighborhood in St. Louis.
So they're terrorizing all the gay people, which I know you as a liberal or you're on the side of gays, right?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I don't discriminate based on sexual orientation.
No.
Right.
So, but what I'm saying is, I mean, they decided to, that's the irony of it.
I mean, I kind of like, I mean, I think it's funny because I'm this character.
But yeah, they're, you know, these libs are going crazy, breaking windows.
And what they're doing is they're terrorizing the gay neighborhood.
All right.
Yeah, okay.
Well, you find humor and funny.
I think that's called, that's called a protest fail.
Yeah, okay.
Well, and anymore.
But then what they then, what they do is, you know, do this thing that then they, what they took their, their, uh, their cause out there to Chesterfield Mall and West County Mall out there.
Uh-huh.
And here's where I'm conflicted.
The people who live out there, they think they're burning everybody.
Those are like, that's like the rich West County people.
And we don't like them where I live.
No.
So it's, yeah, so I'm starting to kind of conflict.
It's a bunch of people I don't like ruining the day of other people I don't like.
And you know, yeah, these are these are difficult times.
I don't even know what to think about that.
Well, I think a negative times a negative equals a positive, right?
Okay, I'm not a mathematician.
I don't know how that works.
But I, yeah, I guess if everyone's upset that I don't like together, yeah, that's good.
Actually, yeah, you're right.
That makes sense.
All right.
So what do you see?
Is that it?
Do you have anybody?
Anything else happen after the mall?
No.
You know, but it'll happen again.
People around here, they're getting used to it.
They're organized.
You know, there's all these organizations for this kind of crap.
Right.
They like to shut down the freeways now.
That bothers, you know, it Depends where it is.
Yeah, go shut down I-70 over there in West County.
Bother those people.
I got to get to work.
I got to take 55, all right?
And 44, all right?
So don't shut that down when I'm trying to get to work, all right?
All right.
That's all I'm saying.
If they do whatever they do over beyond that, as long as it doesn't mess up my day, have at it.
Yeah, that's bother the rich people and the rich of the gays in the central west end.
Go for it.
All right.
Saying, don't have any of this affect my life.
Okay, that's not really the point of a protest.
But anyway, my brother-in-law is a cop.
He's a good man.
Yeah, I'm sure he is.
I'm sure he's.
He's a good man.
He had a problem with beating my sister up for a while, but, you know, we got him to stop, sort of.
So, you know, they're good people.
They're good people.
They're under a lot of pressure, right?
Yeah, of course they are.
Can you imagine going out there every day and then knowing that a black guy's trying to kill you?
Well, it's actually the other thing.
Imagine being a black guy knowing that there's white racist cops out there wanting to kill you.
Oh, get out.
What are you talking about?
Just do what you're told.
You'll be fine.
Okay.
No one ever got shot doing what a cop told them.
Okay.
All right.
Well, listen, Mike, thanks for the report.
I appreciate it.
And well, we look forward to looking at it.
Look, you know, I appreciate it.
I appreciate the opportunity to be a citizen journalist for new media.
Yes, the new media.
So I'm part of the Young Turks.
What does this mean?
Am I, can I put that on my resume if I need to switch to different.
No, I don't think technically, no.
No.
All right.
I don't know if who's going to, maybe I'm sure no one will check.
So yeah, go right ahead.
Put it on your resume.
Okay.
All right.
Yeah, anything I can do, you know, to let you know what's going on on the ground.
Yeah.
I'm here right here in my house watching Fox News, and I can tell you what they're saying on Fox News right here in St. Louis.
Okay.
All right, Mike.
Thank you for that report.
Thank you.
All right.
So now we know what's gotten Fox News in St. Louis.
Absolutely.
No, I'm your guy.
You let me know and I'll tell you.
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So Bob Costas had this.
So Bob Costas.
So this is all about the Colin Kaepernick thing, right?
So Bob Costas had this to say, which was this is a great point that no one else is making in the media.
And I can't believe I didn't think of it.
Fuck.
But he did, so I'll give him credit.
Here we go.
Steve Mnuchin.
I'm not sure we have that quote, but the Treasury Secretary went on TV this weekend and said, this isn't about race.
It's about respect for the military.
Okay, by the way, if you don't know, Steve Mnuchin foreclosed on active military people serving actively in the military, which is fucking illegal.
You're not supposed to do that shit.
He did it 54 times.
One West Bank foreclosed on active military people.
So him saying that you shouldn't kneel because it's disrespectful is just so you show you what kind of a fucking cocksucker Steve Mnuchin is, okay?
And for that motherfucker to repeat it, and for that guy at CNN to repeat it without saying what I just said, that Steve Mnuchin foreclosed on active military people goes to show you the bullshit fucking job mainstream media does.
Because he should have fucking said that, and he didn't.
But he did say that.
And here's what Bob Costas says.
First responders.
And when you kneel, you're disrespecting the military and first responders.
Right.
Part of what's happened is that sports and patriotism and the flag have been conflated to such an extent that people can't separate out any nuance.
If you go to see Hackleton, which is about the founding of the Republic, no one says, wait a minute, don't raise the curtain until we hear the national anthem.
When you went to see Private Ryan, no one said, turn off the projector, saving Private Ryan.
No one said, turn off the projector until we've had the national anthem.
It's in sports where this stuff happens.
Sometimes movingly, sometimes I'd submit cynically.
Because wrapping yourself in the flag and honoring the military is something which no one is going to object to.
We all respect their sacrifice.
We all honor their sacrifice.
And yet, what it has come to mean is that the flag is primarily and only about the military.
This is no disrespect to the military.
It's a huge part of the narrative.
But Martin Luther King was a patriot.
Susan B. Anthony was a patriot.
Yes.
There are more patriots than just military people.
Are patriots.
School teachers and social workers are patriots.
And yet at Yankee Stadium.
Yes.
And now listen to the story he tells about going to Yankee Stadium.
I've never been to Yankee Stadium, so this is interesting.
It's new to me.
Listen.
Shift Sports.
Not only do they play the national anthem before the game, but they play God Bless America at the seventh inning stretch 81 times a year at home games.
And in every case, they say, please rise as the Yankees honor a military guest.
I have no problem with that.
I stand every time I'm in the ballpark, no matter what it is, I stand.
And I certainly respect the military they bring out there.
But there's never a school teacher.
There's never a social worker.
Patriotism comes in many forms.
Yes.
Thank you.
Top Costa.
I would never have expected it, but he got it right.
Yeah, how about when we play the national anthem?
We bring out teachers, right?
Or we bring out maybe a veterinarian.
Or we bring out, I don't know who the fuck, how about someone who tutors kids or a fireman?
They always bring out a fucking military guy.
You know why?
Because the military industrial complex needs to make money.
In fact, did you know this?
Did you know that the football players used to not take the field until 2009?
Did you know why they started taking the field for the national anthem?
So when the national anthem would play, the football players used to be in the locker room.
Anthem's over.
They come running out.
Everybody screams.
They started doing it different in 2010 because the military started giving money to the NFL and told them, bring them out during it because no one wants to go into the military anymore because they see what bullshit this is.
So they go, let's use football to sell young people on joining a gang that murders other fucking people in their home country and steals their natural resources.
Let's use football to do that.
that's what they do.
So that's what Why don't they have a fireman?
Why don't they have a social worker?
How about a nurse?
How about a nurse?
Yeah, I'm all for the military.
I went to Afghanistan.
I performed for the Gramsbend Iraq.
We're all for the military.
We love those guys.
Those guys are fucking pawns of the political leaders, okay?
And those guys joined the military for myriad reasons.
A lot of them is because the way we've set up our economy is they got No fucking choice but to join the military.
You want to go to college?
Oh, you want to be in a million dollars of debt or you want to go kill some people first?
You want to support the military?
Don't keep raising the military budget.
Don't keep sending the men and women overseas in all these bullshit wars.
You want to support the military?
Don't send them into these bullshit wars.
So there isn't 22 suicides a fucking day for PTSD.
How about that?
How about support the military that way?
I got the security.
Who's up?
Thank you.
My uncle was a Marine who was in fucking Korea a bullshit war and he came home fucked up after the Chosen Valley.
Guess what?
He fucking killed himself.
I've met so many vets.
I've been to the Navy, Army, the Navy hospital here on fucking Thanksgiving.
I've seen so many vets come up to me after shows because I've done seven tours over there with prosthetic limbs and PTSD and every other fucking thing.
And what was it for?
It was for fucking ExxonMobil.
That's what it was fucking for.
Here's the last word on this.
I've got four combat tours, which is four more than you do.
They can take a knee if they want, which is the whole fucking point of those four tours.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Bernie Sanders, when he wanted to have Medicare for all and free college, Hillary Clinton referred to those things as ponies.
Everybody wants a pony.
But, you know, I remember how they said, you know, Bernie's a fairy duster, pie in the sky.
How are you going to pay for that?
How are you going to pay for free college?
Free college for the whole country?
We could, we can't afford that.
My favorite thing is when they, you know, Bernie's going to introduce Medicare for all, which will lower the prices for prescription drugs.
How can you afford that?
How can you afford cheaper drugs?
They can't afford free college, but guess what they just did?
The Senate's military spending increase alone is enough to make up public college free.
Trump wanted to spend an extra $55 billion over what Barack Obama spent last year in his Pentagon budget.
But guess what?
Congress went ahead and they said that's not enough, Trumpy.
So they decided to spend $700 billion more dollars like that.
$700 billion more dollars.
Now, how much would it cost for free college?
It would cost roughly, some people say $45 billion.
Some people say $65 billion.
So let's say, let's say $60, take the high number.
$65 billion.
They could have had that like that.
We could all have free college right now.
So those concerns about paying for all that stuff, those concerns were brushed aside Monday night as the Senate overwhelmingly approved an 80 billion annual increase, which turns out to be a $700 billion increase.
$80 billion annual increase in military spending, enough to fully satisfy Sanders' campaign promise of free college.
No discussion, no talk shows, no endless of editorials, no hand-wringing, no debates with different panels back and forth.
By the way, Flint still doesn't have clean water.
And you know how much it would cost to fix that?
Not even one of those billion dollars to fix it.
But they got $700 for more bombs that we don't need to go create more terrorists.
Boom!
We got it.
So I've been saying in my stand-up act that when they say we're broke and we don't have money, they're either full of shit or they're using a Texas math book.
When they say that you can't afford stuff, they don't mean we can't afford trillion-dollar bank bailouts, trillion-dollar wars, billion-dollar oil subsidies, and prison construction.
They mean they can't afford anything that helps you, like single payer or cheaper drugs or free college or a living wage, anything that helps you.
Social Security, Medicare, libraries, roads, bridges, infrastructure, anything that helps you.
Instead, the Senate handed Donald Trump far more than the $54 billion he had asked for.
The lavish spending package gives Trump a major legislative victory, allowing him to boast about fulfilling his promise of a great rebuilding of the armed services.
Rebuilding?
So the last 16 years and the somewhere estimated between $4 to $6 trillion in the fight on the global war on terror, something we still can't seem to win is the military is collapsed and falling apart.
We haven't been doing this.
We're already sending more people to Afghanistan.
Really?
We went from two wars to seven.
Now we're actually up to eight wars.
But surely, Jimmy, surely the corporate media was screaming high and loud about this $80 billion.
You barely made a blip.
I don't know.
I didn't see anything.
Yeah, I had to go to the intercept.
Yes.
With a $700 billion military budget, the United States would be spending more than three times as much as China does on its military and 10 times as much as Russia.
So it's the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute.
That's what Zipri is.
So according to Cipri, the United States already accounts for more than a third of all military spending in the world.
A third.
What else could we have done with that money with $80 billion a year?
You could make public colleges and universities in the United States tuition free.
In fact, Sanders' proposal was only estimated to cost the federal government $47 billion a year.
See, even lower than I said.
So his pony was cheaper.
His pony was cheaper than, yeah, it was half the price of what they're spending on just in the military increase.
It was half, turns out.
China, which spent $200-some billion dollars a year, according to that last statistic, two years ago spent $111 billion on wind and solar.
Ah.
Imagine if we did.
Imagine if we took that $80 billion and didn't pay it on college, but did it on wind and solar.
Weird.
And put Americans to work making it?
And rebuilt the infrastructure of the power grid, which is outdated and is now a security threat.
I wonder if Americans would have jobs doing that.
If the additional military spending over the next 10 years went to pay off student debt, it could come close to wiping it out entirely.
So instead of spending this extra money on the military, if we just spent it to get rid of student debt, we could get rid of it.
But instead, we're going to create more terrorists.
We're going to give more to fucking Lockheed Martin for nothing.
Halliburton, Dick Cheney gets rich.
And have more people drowning in debt.
Yeah.
More people having to work two and three jobs.
62% of Americans can't afford a $1,000 emergency.
62% of Americans could not afford a $1,000 emergency.
Well, I bet you if they had no more student loan debt, they could.
This is unbelievable.
And while concerns about the cost of ponies abound, few Democrats are raising similar concerns about military spending, even when it is meant for a commander-in-chief, they consider reckless and unstable.
We can't have a pony unless the pony has a drone attached to it.
Then we can have a pony.
Well, the pony also needs a flock of tanks around it to make sure that it can get through its pony parade correctly.
And it needs to wear body armor and laser-guided stuff.
So those Democrats really standing up to Trump, the resistance, let's give him an extra $80 billion a year for the military.
Boom.
And what was that vote?
I bet you it was close.
A lot of Democrats went against it, huh?
Yeah.
The vote was close.
It was 89 to 8.
So do you see what I mean when we say there's one party?
Do you see what I mean?
It was 89 to 8 voted for an extra $700 billion in military spending with fucking no debate.
Do we have a town hall about this?
Because if they had a goddamn town hall about this, you know what The people would say, stop the military spending.
Get out of these fucking wars.
That's why people voted for Barack Obama.
That's why people voted for Trump.
And guess what?
They both stick it right in the country's ass.
Barack Obama did it first, and now Trump's doing it.
We have one party.
And if the Democrats, who I'm sure, are terrified, oh, you can't say this against the military.
Well, if you had a fucking soul and a back, you know what you would do?
You would say, let's protect our vets.
Let's not have more people coming back in flag drape coffins or with prosthetic limbs and PTSD.
Let's actually take care of our military.
Let's actually take some, instead of buying more drones and rockets and tanks and all the shit we don't need, let's get the VA up to what it should be.
Let's get homeless vets off the goddamn street.
Let's get them on their medication.
Let's get them trained.
Let's get them back in the workforce because PTSD is a crippling disease.
How about you might get elected, you pussy ass Democrats.
Because that doesn't help.
They're corporate donors.
How does helping a vet help their corporate donors?
It only helps their corporate donors if we make more vets.
Yeah.
We need to make more.
That's how they get paid.
So, and by the way, the veterans get to negotiate for drug prices, so they don't want to help them.
They're already.
So who were the Democrats who voted against it?
Well, Bernie Sanders, who's not a Democrat, and we'll never let you forget that.
He voted against it.
You know who else did?
Kirsten Gillibrand of New York, Patrick Leahy of Vermont, Jeff Merkley, and Ron Wyden from Oregon.
The Republicans who voted for it, Bob Corker, Rand Paul, Mike Lee.
You know who the Democrats who did vote for it?
Oh, there's Corey Booker.
Wait a minute.
Who's this?
Kamala Harris.
That's Kamala Harris from California.
She voted for it.
Huh.
They're so afraid of Trump, they want to give him an extra $700 billion to go spend on bombs.
They're so afraid of that guy.
He's such a wild card.
You know, it makes me think that those Democrats are really Republicans.
It makes me what's the truth, though?
What is the truth about the Democrats with their population?
Because this is policy.
Now, Kamala Harris and Corey Booker, they know all the words, just like Chris had you say.
They know how to pay fealty to progressives.
They know how to pay fealty to populism.
But when rubber meets the road, they're corporatists and they betray their stated values on a daily basis.
So what's the truth about the Democrats?
Are they really Republicans?
What is the truth?
The truth of the matter is, is that my policies are so mainstream that, you know, if I had said the same policies that I have back in the 1980s, I'd be considered a moderate Republican.
I mean, you know, Barack Obama's proud to say he sold out.
He can't proclaim loud enough that he's a moderate Republican.
Do you understand why our country's completely corrupted?
Do you understand why our jails are full to the gills with not one banker?
But they're packed.
They're packed with poor kids who got caught with a joint in their pocket or less.
There you go, because they're moderate Republicans.
And why?
Because they fucking vote for this stuff.
700 without debate.
Do you remember when, do you remember when Kamala Harris was running for Senate, how she's talked about wanting to spend $700 more billion dollars on the defense?
No, I don't remember either.
Remember Corey Booker when he ran, he wanted to spend $700 billion more on.
I don't remember either.
This never gets debated, never talked about.
Do you know what does?
Oh, Social Security, we can't afford it.
Oh my God, free college, Medicare for all.
We can't afford all that stuff.
Yeah, and even aside from the moral standpoint of all this, like an economy of death is not sustainable.
We have this overreaching military.
We have a world like similar to like ancient Rome where it was illegal to teach people philosophy and stuff like that, but it was encouraged to teach them basic skills so they would be good, you know, peasant people or whatever.
That's kind of the way we view education in this country.
It's not a sustainable way of being.
It will inevitably collapse.
What about keeping us safe?
We can keep us safe for $200 billion.
I mean, yeah.
Because we would, first of all, what about all ISIS and the terrorists?
I'd say, well, we wouldn't be out creating them if we cut the military, but we wouldn't be drone striking them.
We would maybe help the Middle East rebuild, you know?
And if you're all pro-capitalism, okay, we could help the Middle East rebuild and then American companies could do business there because they wouldn't, everything wouldn't be being blown up by us, thus creating terrorist groups to come here.
There would be no refugees for us to take care of because people would prefer to stay in the homes and the countries they grew up in.
It's unbelievable what we could be.
We could be this beacon of hope throughout the entire planet.
We could be helping the whole world be better.
We could be negotiating peace all from every corner of the globe.
And instead, we are creating death and war and it's awful.
Graham, you're 100% right.
Imagine if we took that $700 billion and we tried to help people with it.
We actually went, tried to rebuild Libya.
We tried to rebuild Syria.
We tried to rebuild Iraq, Afghanistan, instead of blowing it up.
Oh, look, we got the biggest bomb ever, the Moab.
Let's drop it.
See how much stuff we could blow up.
We are living in idiocracy right now.
We're doing it to ourselves.
And the Democrats are doing it.
Let's remember what Dwight T. Eisenhower said.
This is the guy who warned us about the military-industrial complex.
He said, every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed.
The greatest evil perpetrated by governments is poverty.
And that's what he's saying.
That's immoral.
That's the nicest thing I could say about it.
But people will tell me I have to keep voting for that.
I have to keep voting for Kamala Harris.
I have to keep voting for Corey Booker or else I'm a bad Democrat or something.
I don't know.
I'm a bad person.
I'm not allowed to vote for who I want to in this country.
You have to go along and keep voting for more war.
You have to vote for more fracking.
You have to vote for more police brutality.
You have to vote for Wall Street kicking more people out of their houses.
You have to keep voting for more predatory capitalism.
You have to vote for more war.
I'm not doing that.
I'm with Dwight T. Eisenhower.
And don't you ever let the Democrats tell you they're anti-war or they're standing up to Trump because they're doing neither.
They both work for the same people.
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