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Hey guys, Ron Placone here for the Jimmy Door Show.
Got an exciting show for you today.
First of all, we get phone calls from Barack Obama, Vladimir Putin, Luke Russard, and a British contributor to the show, Sir Clively.
All that is coming up.
And also, we got interviews with Jordan Cheriton.
And in the second half of today's show, we got a special interview with Eva Bartlett.
She is a reporter, an independent reporter from Canada, and she's been going over to Syria a lot.
And she's uncovered a lot of what's going on over there.
We were honored to be contacted by her.
And her and Jimmy have a very interesting conversation about all that's going on around the world right now.
So stay tuned.
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Hello, who's this?
Don't play stupid with me.
You know who this is.
Let's start over, no?
I'm really sorry, but I had no idea who was calling me.
Jimmy, but I had Jimmy Dore.
It is I, your old associate, Vladimir.
Wow, Vladimir Putin?
Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy.
Why do we have to play these games?
Old associate?
I swear we never met, Vladimir.
That's what you think.
Remember at one time you were on vacation?
I think it was summer of 67 or 68.
And your father drove you upstate to the Russian River, and you got one of those nesting dolls at the geek shop.
No, but it might have happened.
I can't deny that.
Not said, Kremlin puppet.
Indoctrinated at an early age into the ways of Cossack army against freedom, the American way, and frozen TV dinners.
But that's not only guilt by association, it's guilt by location.
And that's just stupid.
Do you still have Russian nesting, doll?
Yeah, sure.
It's right here on my shelf.
Why don't you open up nesting, though, Jimmy?
Tell me what you find.
I found another doll.
And another doll inside that one.
And so on and so on.
Of course you did.
And how would you describe your reaction?
Charmed, I guess.
I mean, fascinated to tell you the truth.
I mean, I keep opening up the doll, and there's always another doll inside of it.
And it just keeps going and going until you get to the littlest tedious one, and it's so damn cute.
I mean, how'd they ever make this thing?
Congratulations.
You are now fully indoctrinated into a communist, no longer communist Russian Federation of Useful Idiots, Puppets, and Traitors.
We used to sell back scratchers, but they didn't work out as well.
What do you mean, indoctrinated?
All I can tell you is next time you see a Vons Monopoly game card for 50 cents off signature aluminum foil, you will immediately run to the nearest mall and drop your pants, thereby causing Donald Trump to win second term.
I don't even shop at Vons.
Then you're a stupid fool.
You get gas rewards and coupons.
There's a pharmacy, and their signature cafe offers delicious and affordable options.
How could you be so blind?
Sorry, this won't work.
You're going to have to find another way to destroy American democracy.
You're right.
From now on, I won't interfere at all.
America goes down toilet faster that way.
Hey, did you listen to the Comey FBI hearings today?
Listen, I wrote it.
What?
I'm just kidding, Jimmy Dore.
You must remember, Russia is known for its biting satire.
We joke all the time.
Have you ever read Nicoli Gogul?
He wrote an amusing story about the man who wakes up to find his nose is gone and was baked into a loaf of bread.
Of course, this is a metaphor about stifling bureaucracy, no?
Oh, yeah, yeah, I knew that.
Well, Jimmy, have I answered all your questions adequately?
Yeah, I guess so.
Then I wonder if I might trouble you to take a short survey regarding customer satisfaction.
After we hang up, you will receive a call with such questions, no?
Sure, I guess.
Hello?
Good evening, and thank you for taking a customer survey today.
May I begin, please, sir or madam?
Go ahead.
How did you first learn of our company, the Russian Federation of States Limited, Incorporated?
Probably in history class.
A, the internet.
B, word of mouths.
C, corporate advertising.
D, all of above.
I said history class.
Corporate advertising.
Got it.
Now, what would happen if you see a Vaughn's Monopoly game card for 50 cents off signature aluminum foil?
Okay, that's easy.
I go to the nearest mall and drop my pants, thereby ushering in Donald Trump's second term.
Oh my God!
Heh heh heh heh heh heh heh.
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Hi, everybody.
We're here with reporter Extraordinaire from the Young Turks.
It's Jordan Cheriton.
Hi, Jordan.
How are you?
Hey, Jimmy, how's it going?
Good.
Now, listen, you've got some great information.
So, what's going on in Florida?
I just want to set it up.
There's a lawsuit happening against the DNC.
There are a bunch of Bernie voters who are in Florida.
They're filing a complaint seeking redress for their...
So, Jordan, pick it up from there.
Who filed this lawsuit and what have we found out?
Yeah, so the lawsuit was filed last year.
There's been other folks following it down there.
And it was brought by Bernie Sanders voters, basically wanting their money back.
And that's a lot of voters.
Bernie had nearly 7 million individual contributors and wanted their money back based on fraud.
Essentially, that they donated the money under the assumption that this was a fair, even-handed contest between Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton.
And the DNC broke its own charter and bylaws, which state they're neutral.
And you remember Debbie, you know, Debbie Doner Downer, as I call her, going on TV constantly.
And, you know, we're neutral, yada, yada.
So most people kind of have been laughing about it and say, oh, those Bernie bros, sour grapes.
But they were in court last week giving their arguments.
It's a possibility That it could move to even a trial.
And the judge actually, I read the whole over 100 pages.
The judge was asking pretty probing questions of the defense.
The DNC defense is as arrogant as you would expect.
In really a shocking thing that you can't believe they'd say in public, the lawyer, Bruce Spiva is his name, said, well, you know, not that we did this, Wink, but if we wanted to, we could do it like the old days, going back rooms over cigars and just pick the nominee.
So he said this in court.
So let me just get this straight.
So just so people understand, the DNC has a charter, and their charter says they have to administer a Democratic primary in fair, unbiased, so they can't favor one candidate over another.
So all these people made donations because they wanted a fair primary.
Turns out it wasn't because WikiLeaks proved it wasn't, that they were in collusion with the Clinton campaign, favoring Hillary Clinton's campaign over the progressive Bernie Sanders.
Just like everyone said the DNC's first order of business was to defeat the agenda of Bernie Sanders, which means defeat the agenda of the workers in America.
That's what they did.
And they were all the while, Debbie Wasserman Chiltz, who was the DNC chair, kept going on TV saying that we are fair and impartial and we are neutral and we are on by.
So she constantly lied.
And then when it was revealed in WikiLeaks that they were in collusion, she had to resign in shame.
She didn't seem all that embarrassed, by the way.
And so that's so now you're saying that the lawyers for the DNC are admitting that it was rigged, right?
They're saying, hey, yeah, we don't have to run a fair primary if we don't want to.
That's what that guy's saying.
I mean, he did say we didn't do it this way, but if we wanted to, we could.
I mean, you read it between the lines.
Obviously, when Debbie Wasserman Schultz is going on TV and saying, oh, chairs were thrown at the Nevada State Convention, things like that.
It's not only that she's like stating she's neutral when she's not, but she's actively going on TV attacking one candidate with fraudulent charges.
They also, the lawyer also said, and I quote, there's no right to not have your candidate disadvantaged or have another candidate advantage.
There's no contractual obligation here.
It's not a situation where a promise has been made that is an enforceable promise, he said.
I'm not a lawyer, but I think in the term bylaws is laws.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So you can't.
So I heard someone else, Jordan.
I heard someone else say this.
Well, it's just donations.
Donations are donations.
You can't get them back.
That is not true.
I know of a guy who said his wife had cancer, so they had a fundraiser and people donated.
Turned out she didn't, and they just took the money because he was underwater on his house.
And that's called fraud.
You can't do that.
So you can't solicit a donation under a false pretense, which is what the DNC did.
They solicited donations from Bernie Sanders supporters saying, help us run a primary.
We're going to run it fair.
And then they didn't.
That's fraud.
You can't do that.
But what you're saying, the argument they're making in court is that we could do that if we wanted.
Right.
And also, I mean, this isn't a lawsuit, but it's broader than just donors.
You have to assume that the millions of people who volunteered, many of them just quitting their jobs and volunteering full-time, were doing it under the guise that, okay, may the best man or woman win.
We're going to go out there, rah-rah-rah, knock on doors.
So it encompasses the whole thing.
You know, all these people who gave to Bernie.
And by extension, let's say it was an establishment candidate who was defrauded.
I mean, that's not going to happen in our lifetime.
But let's say for whatever reason, Corey Booker runs next time and he fell out of favor.
He said something wrong or he didn't chill enough.
Well, do you want your candidate screwed?
So, yeah.
And they also, I mean, the lawyer continued to make these weird comments.
He said, you have a charter that says you have to be where the party has to be even-handed.
And just to get the language exactly right, that they would have be even-handed and impartial, I believe, is the exact language.
And, you know, that's not self-defining, Your Honor.
I mean, that's kind of like, you know, saying, who's a Baptist?
What?
That's what the lawyer said?
He's trying to...
And he said, what does that mean?
He said, I mean, that's kind of like, you know, saying, who's a Baptist, which I guess he's suggesting.
Is that the No True Scotsman fallacy?
Is that what he's saying?
I don't even know.
So he's saying, like, there's no way you could, anybody could say any process is not fair and impartial, right?
Who's to say this is fair enough?
We're saying it is.
Anybody could say any price.
So he's trying to...
Yeah, I think what he's trying to like, he's trying to stretch like, well, neutrality is in the eye of the beholder.
Yes.
Who's to say it's neutral and it's not, but it's really not, because neutrality is just like, you're not involved.
Like, you as the DNC are not involved other than structurally setting the debate time or, you know, sponsoring, sponsoring some of these things.
You're not going on national TV.
You're not.
So, yeah, that would be neutrality.
It's not like it's an objective definition, what it's supposed to be.
They also claimed, the lawyer claimed that the DNC and Debbie Wasserman Schultz's free speech rights are under attack.
But again, you're forfeiting your free speech if you're calling yourself neutral.
So, and I just want to add, because obviously the Democrats can't do anything, even defend a court case in law, without bringing up Donald Trump, the president.
No.
Yeah, yeah.
So they said, Spiva pointed out that candidate Trump's promise to build a border wall funded by Mexico.
It's not like if he doesn't follow through, his donors who might have donated to him based on that promise could sue him.
And I pointed out in the story I wrote up, well, that's an individual.
You're talking about a private company that has bylaws and a charter.
So yeah, voters can't sue the president or the candidate for not following through because all of them would be in jail.
But it's apples and oranges.
But again, they brought up Trump's border wall promise that you wouldn't expect his donors or voters to sue him.
Yeah, no shit.
It was just a weird comparison.
So clearly, you know, and there's some people who said, listen, I find it very distasteful what he said, but by the letter of the law, that's what he's going to argue.
But to tell you the truth, I think it was, I don't think the judge was that impressed with the argument because if basically what you're saying here is if legally none of this stuff applies, what is the point of having a charter or bylaws?
It's worth nothing if you're saying legally we could do whatever we want.
So of course they have to do mental gymnastics because that's what that is.
That's mental gymnastics to try to justify cheating in the primary where you were publicly telling.
So that's this goes back to the Hillary Clinton.
I have a public position and a private position.
So publicly, the DNC says that they're fair and even-handed, but privately they know they're cheating everybody.
That's what it sounds like, right?
Right, totally.
And what's really astounding to me is, you know, yeah, it's the DNC lawyer, but you would think the DNC lawyer is maybe consulting with executives at the DNC, you know, Tom Perez now about this case.
Like, they're aware of it.
Debbie Wasserman Schultz is aware of it.
They've been trying to get it thrown out of court.
You would think that maybe they'd be in consultation, like, hey, here's what we want you to say.
Here's what we want you to stay away from.
So at a time when the DNC, the Democratic Party, is at an all-time low in popularity, they're going out there in this, I wouldn't even call it tone deaf.
It's like on another planet, basically saying, yeah, you know, let's just, we could, if we want, go back to the 1920s and have the mob bosses decide.
And so, how does this so get to what they don't think see?
Because what the Hillary Clinton campaign and the Debbie Watson Schultz's and the Don of Brazil, who's a 15-time loser, what they have proven is that they're not all that smart.
They have a lot of money because they're connected to people who have a lot of money, but they weren't smart in making it.
That's just basically crony freaking politics.
That's all that it's nothing to do with those people being smart.
Look, they lost to Donald Trump, which as Bill Maher puts, that's the equivalent of Bill Buckner letting the ball go through your legs.
You can't blame the grounds crew.
You can't blame the grass.
You can't blame the dirt.
You can't blame the hole in your glove.
It's your fucking fault.
Everybody blames Bill Buckner, and it's fucking Hillary Clinton's fault.
It's John Podesta's fault.
It's Nira Tandon's fault.
It's Robbie Mook's fault.
It's Debbie Wasserman Schultz because those people are the magnitude of their dumbness on purpose, by the way, because that's what this is.
Because they're trying to do mental gymnastics to justify being liars, to justify cheating the progressive wing of their party, and justify taking money that corrupts them 100%.
So instead of using their brain power for good, they use their brain power to justify corruption and try to prop up a freaking evil system that is wrecking the country.
So instead of, so now you know how stupid they are because even Barack Obama is just as dumb as these people in a sense, because when Hillary Clinton was trying to win against Donald Trump, he was out there pushing the TPP and she's out there trying to say she's not for it.
But we all love Barack Obama.
So that's the hubris of the corporate Democrat.
Right now, the Democrats are having a hard time and nobody believes in them.
Their poll numbers are lower.
Right now, if they held the election again, Hillary Clinton would lose again.
If they held it again, Trump would fucking beat her.
He's the most unpopular guy in the world and he would still beat her again today.
And so right now, what the Democrats are doing when the Democrats' popularity is lower than pancreatic cancer, they got Barack Obama coming out going, yeah, we're corrupt and fuck you.
I'm going to take $400,000 from a bank and I don't give a shit what you think or how this looks or how much you fucking hate us.
And I'm going to have a lawyer go down in Florida and tell everybody to go pound sand if you don't like that we're corrupted.
Go fuck yourself.
You got nowhere else to go again.
That's what the Democratic Party is doing again.
The dumbest motherfuckers in the world and they want us to unite behind that shit.
And I hate uniting behind it.
Are you united behind it, Jordan?
No, I'm not.
And I will say, Jimmy, a little less passionately than you, the thing about this that troubles me most is, yes, we need to rectify what happened in the past, but you also have to look forward.
It's important how this case is decided.
Yes.
Because really, if a judge, it needs to be defined what are the legal and consequential results of rigging a primary.
Because if there are no, if there are no consequences, it's not like Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, and the gang are going to warm up to Bernie Sanders, Tulsi Gabbard, whoever it is in 2020.
I think it's going to be a progressive.
If they know, oh, shit, we did this in 2016.
A judge, you know, there's no consequences, so let's double down.
Basically, it's very important because the bottom line is, if we've lost the rule of law here, police can do whatever they want, no consequences.
The politicians, Clinton doesn't have to go to jail.
Now, Uma Abedeen doesn't have to go to jail.
It came out today, that emails were being forwarded by the tooth fairy to Anthony Weiner, but she didn't know.
So if we don't even, if we don't have free and fair elections and there's no legal consequences for rigging that, then we might as well all move to a third world country because that's what we are.
Jordan, very well put.
And by the way, your reporting on this is fantastic.
Are you getting pushback from people for reporting on this?
Because I know there's a lot of Democrats that don't want to hear this story.
Oh, my God.
You Bernie bros.
Why are you looking into the past?
Just such move on.
We must unite and resist and la la la.
And, you know, I say to that, honestly, when I don't care if it's against progressives or not, when the lawyer for a political party says we essentially can bypass the voters, that's kind of newsworthy and relevant and fairly scandalous.
So I'm not moving on.
And it needs to be covered whether this lawsuit is thrown out or not.
Yeah, it's very scandalous.
You know, I saw Jake Tapper retweeted a story about this.
I haven't seen him actually do anything on it.
Haven't seen Morning Joe talking about it, Hardball Chris, any of these folks.
So we'll see.
And to tell you the truth, got to give a little tough love to my man Bernie.
I haven't heard Bernie say anything about this because he's playing nice right now with the DNC.
But listen, this is about democracy.
It's bigger than just what happened in 2016.
It's about the future.
So let me just real quickly ask you about that Bernie Sanders situation because I find myself going back and forth.
And, you know, I was told that his Unity tour was originally a Medicare for all tour and Tom Perez hijacked it.
And he decided to make it.
Have you heard any of that before?
Well, a little breaking news, Jimmy.
Not breaking news, but common sense.
Bernie wanted Keith Ellis to travel around the country with them.
And the DNC stuck Tommy Tom on him.
No, I believe that I believe that it was originally, regardless of Perez, going to be kind of this, you know, barnstorming Republican states, disappearing middle class, dip in some climate change and other things.
And obviously the DNC, they don't, he's not a Democrat, Jimmy, but I want your email list and I want to get on your bus and plane and share the stage with you.
And it was the most awkward thing.
I mean, literally, Tom Perez was speaking and the thousands were Bernie, Bernie.
And then Perez is chanting Bernie.
And it's just, you could tell that they're trying to get this guy offstage.
Then he's on TV.
I mean, the interviewer is saying, do you believe in the single payer Bernie?
Yes, I do.
And Tom Perez is, well, you know, I believe we need to leave with our values and law.
And yeah, it was ridiculous.
You know, listen, I'm trying to get an interview with Bernie, so I got to be careful.
But listen, I'll be honest.
I don't understand the strategy.
I would ask him about that.
I think he truly believes he could bring these people over to his side, and maybe to a certain extent he can, but he's not going to change the culture because what the DNC lawyer said, that's about the culture of all of neoliberalism.
Yes, so I know it still looks like I think Bernie.
This is my theory.
Again, whatever it's worth is that I think he doesn't think a third party is viable right now at this point because of the way the system is stacked and it's rigged against third parties, right?
So it makes it extremely difficult for something like that to succeed.
But guess what else is really extremely difficult?
Getting Donald Trump elected president.
But somehow they did it.
I mean, honestly, Donald Trump, Donald Trump could have run on the marshmallow ticket, and I think he would have won because I don't think it was about him.
I think it was actually that he wasn't touting the typical Republican line, even though he's full of shit.
So, yeah.
You're exactly right on that, Jordan.
This was an anti-establishment election.
This was an outsider election, and the Democrats ran the emblem of an insider, a corrupt insider who's been hated by half the country since the day she got on the scene.
So, yeah, again, just more of those people being dumb.
The people running the Democratic Party, you think they're smart?
They must know.
Tom Perez, he used to be the labor secretary.
He must be smart.
A labor secretary that didn't give us card check, that didn't stand up for unions in Wisconsin, that wanted to sign a TPP to further the undercut war.
So that kind of labor secretary.
So these people don't know anything.
They just know how to do the bidding of their donors.
And we've, you know, and Barack Obama, we had Thomas Frank on, who've referred to him as a buffoon, right?
Because he was a buffoon in far as the way he ran government was pretty much how a right-winger would run government.
Bob Dole would have ran the government.
So you think that this lawsuit's super important going forward.
But what do you say to the people who say we shouldn't and we got to shut up?
Because what I say to them is, yeah, if you don't learn from history, you're bound to win in 2018, right?
Yeah, let's just stand by, keep pushing forward, centrists to Republican candidates on the federal and local level.
Let's just totally disregard the millions of millennials, resurgence of the Woodstock crowd.
That's very progressive.
Let's just ignore numbers, data.
Bernie is the most popular senator or politician in the country.
Numbers don't matter.
We're like Republicans.
Climate change doesn't exist.
Yada yada.
Yeah, let's do that.
That sounds smart.
And by the way, Jimmy, I will say it's quite possible.
Like Al Franken is a United States Senator.
Why couldn't you have beaten Hillary Clinton?
It was possible last year.
Maybe I'll start the gossip for 2020.
Oh, you know what?
Maybe you're right.
Maybe it's time.
Jordan Sheridan, everybody check out Jordan Cheriton.
We got it.
I know you have a meeting to get to, so we got to let you go.
I will just add quickly: I don't want to start a scandal, but I've been getting a lot of messages with requests that you and I do a recurring segment or show on the Young Turks.
I have not gotten an answer on that, but I'm getting a lot of hashtags lately, the Jimmy Jor connection.
So I'm all for it, Jordan.
You know, I have you on aggressive progressive whenever you're available.
So that's the show I do for the Young Turks exclusively, is their Aggressive Progressive Show.
And whenever you're available, you're often traveling and you're a busy guy.
You're an actual reporter.
But whenever you're available, we always have you on.
So there's that, but I would love to do something else, just you and me.
That would be fantastic.
All right.
We'll have to talk to the ask the Kim Mochabi and see what he says.
All right.
Sounds good.
All right, buddy.
Take care.
Jordan Sheridan, check him out at TYTPolitics.com.
Wait a minute.
No, it's youtube.com/slash TYT Politics.
And you have your own channel too right now, right?
Yeah, Truth Against the Machine.
Check it out.
Truth Against the Machine is Jordan Cheriton's own personal channel.
Truth, I like that.
Truth Against the Machine.
All right, Jordan.
Take care, buddy.
We'll see you next time.
We'll see you next time.
Well, I wonder who this is.
Caller ID just says corporate America anywhere USA, but most likely offshore somewhere.
What?
Hello?
Hello.
Is this the head of the household?
Head of the.
Hi.
My name is Barack Obama, former president of the United States of America and all its subsidiaries.
Nice to hear if you're President Obama.
What's the occasion?
Please stay on the line for an important investment opportunity.
Wouldn't you like to fly in my beautiful balloon?
Wouldn't you like to glide in my beautiful balloon?
Hello.
Do you have your pencil and a sheet of paper ready?
I didn't know that I needed.
Wait.
That means we're ready to start.
Please hold on the line.
Your caller, number 251.
Yeah, but I didn't call you.
Hi, this is former President Barack Obama.
Thank you for calling the Barack Obama Retirement Fund.
I'm here to help you with any and all of my retirement needs.
I notice you have a birthday coming up this year.
Yes, that happens every year.
What a great investment opportunity.
For the amount you'd have to pay that CAT scan technician for your impending tumor, you can have me speak privately at your funeral, wake or sin eating.
I don't have a tumor.
Not according to the last NSA scan I performed on your house in September.
Okay, look, here's a question: Who said this six years ago about Wall Street right after the economic collapse?
Quote: I do think at a certain point, you've made enough money.
Yours truly, Jimmy James.
And now I'm asking Wall Street to give back to the public, namely me.
Hillary and I are now part of the resistance, and we're irresistible.
Barack, many people are calling speaking fees just a payoff for never prosecuting Wall Street for their crimes.
Oh, nonsense.
I prefer to think of it as just a payoff for never prosecuting Wall Street for their crimes.
Yeah, I just said that.
Now I just said it.
It's inconsequential, Jimmy.
My speaking fees are like one of those gift bags Flappers gives you for doing one of their comedy festivals.
There's no comparison, Barack.
All I got last time was a free shopping bag and a complimentary beverage not to exceed $400,000 in value.
There's no way I could ever drink that big of a white Russian.
What you got was a payoff for your influence.
Confederate in advance on my new book, The Audacity of Money.
And besides, it's just a mid-sized investment bank, Jimmy.
And what does that even mean?
That means, relatively speaking, it's not as big as it could be, which it certainly will become very soon with my help.
I mean, I bet you never heard of this bank.
Well, isn't that the point?
They keep consolidating and changing their names.
Of course, it's hard to keep track of them.
What's the bank's name?
It's called Just the Mid-Sized Investment Bank of America.
Really, just your standard million-dollar mom-and-pop organization.
But how is what you're doing for the good of the country and the world as a whole?
Along with my $65 million book deal and the upcoming speaking fees, I'm finally earning some serious tubmans.
Not that lame White House salary, most of the country would be thrilled to earn half of.
You can't be a real citizen activist without millions of dollars in the bank, right?
Elizabeth Warren says she's troubled by the speaking fees, and Bernie Sanders called it distasteful.
Troubled and distasteful.
These are just words, Jimmy.
They mean nothing when compared to other words like money and cash.
Trevor Noah is right.
Just because I'm the first black president doesn't mean I have to be the first president who's not corrupted by money.
It's my turn to be corrupted by money.
But Harry Truman and Jimmy Carter refuse to profit off their presidencies.
How much money do you need?
I'm about to make these horrible nightmares I keep having of girls killing children go away.
Wow, I'm sorry, Brock.
You know, I didn't know that.
Psych.
I just want Jared and Ivanka to like me.
We'll be seeing a lot of each other at our local neighborhood council meetings.
Hey, I gotta go.
Somebody's using the phrase extrajudicial killings, and my ears are ringing.
Resist.
We haven't heard from Luke Russert in quite a while, so why not give him a call?
Dude, it's me, Lou Crossert.
Happy World Press Freedom Day.
Woohoo!
Party.
Luke, how are you?
Ready to parte, Brahim.
That's so I am.
Know why?
Because it's World Press Freedom Day?
Because it's World Press Freedom Day.
Celebrate good times.
Come on.
Just like the song.
What is World Press Freedom Day, Luke?
Oh, dude, it's Holy Biscuit holiday where girls go wild, I think.
I have a BA in communications.
Close.
The United Nations declared May 3rd to be World Press Freedom Day to raise awareness of the importance of freedom of the press enshrined under Article 19 of the 1948 Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
Is there a prize?
Yes, but the United States has only won once in 20 years.
We need to arrest more reporters to get that sympathy vote.
It's worth it if the prize is sweet.
I should refuse the Trump administration's order to compel me to testify or reveal my confidential sources in a criminal league investigation or some shit like that, right?
Wow, you'd sacrifice yourself like that to protect your source.
Only if my source is the CIA or a person of great power who does need protecting.
You see, Jimmy, democracy is all about protecting those who don't need our help and ignoring those who do.
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Hi, everybody.
Welcome.
We have a special guest.
You might recognize her from her previous appearance on this show.
She's a great journalist doing some really great reporting that's coming out of Syria.
Not many reporters are actually even going to Syria.
She's one of the few, and she's giving us the truth about what's been happening in Syria.
She's an independent journalist from Canada.
Please welcome my guest, Eva Bartlett.
Hi, Eva.
How are you?
Hi, Jimmy.
I'm great.
Thank you so much for having me on.
So now, you really did some groundbreaking reporting on this.
Can you just tell Rub briefly what's the biggest misconceptions that people have who, if they've been watching the mainstream media, what would be their biggest misconceptions about what's happening in Syria?
That there's something called a civil war or something, some entity called rebels in Syria that are fighting against this caricaturized evil regime that is gunning down his people and gassing his people.
And I mean, some of the latest lies do revolve around chemical weapons allegations.
So the main mythology is that this is all about a popular uprising against the president.
But it's not a popular uprising against the president because it started, it was the CIA and lots of other outside actors, correct, that fomented this through the Arab Spring.
Then they kind of brought in outside actors, meaning people supported by Saudi Arabia, Cotter, and the CIA also.
Is that correct?
Is that what's really been happening?
Absolutely.
And I mean, you have documents from the mid-2000s.
You have documents even from the 80s when prior attempts at regime change were enacted.
But even taking like this current attempt at regime change, I would highly recommend a Canadian author named Stephen Gowans, who wrote a very thorough article called The Revolutionary Distemper in Syria that wasn't.
And the reason I recommend him is that he links to, well, he gives a lot of historical context.
He links to these documents and also to actual, surprisingly, corporate media reporters who were on the ground in early 2011 and who were reporting prior to March 2011, which is what we're told where the revolution, the so-called Army protest kicked off.
He was citing corporate media, New York Times, Time magazine, saying, actually, there's not much will for protest here.
Oh, no kidding.
I will check that out.
Thanks for the heads up on that.
I know that I played on this show a video of an interview between Christian Amapur from CNN with Assad from 2005, where she was warning him that everybody wanted to overthrow him already and that regime change was the word of the day from the West.
So what do you, I don't even, I didn't read, you know, I wasn't really following the news back then over, you know, 12 years ago that closely is certainly not As it related to Syria, but do you know what the justification back in like 2005 was that the United States and the West was giving for regime chains in Syria back then?
Likewise, like yourself, I wasn't following the news.
And I fully admit, back then I was utterly apolitical.
But I mean, the documents that trace back, I'm sorry, to after September 11th and even prior to, prior to, again, referring to Gowan's article, he gets into how the Washington or the West did not like the socialist Baathist government in Syria.
And so they had desired to implement a new government which would acquiesce to their demands on allowing different international companies in there, extracting oil and natural resources, ending Syria's long-standing support for Palestinians and support for Hezbollah and other allies, and having Syria make peace with Israel, which is occupying the Syrian Golan and which has warred upon, including recently, many times, Syria.
Related to the 2000s, we have the famous kind of speech by General Wesley Clark saying Syria was on the hit list along with six or seven other nations.
And there's other documentation, again, referring to Gowan's article, that after September 11th, Syria was put on the hit list, the so-called axis of evil or whatever, you know, cartoonish words they were using back then.
Certainly, and this is something I think most cognizant people would recognize, it has nothing to do with freedom, democracy, or human rights in Syria, particularly when you consider currently and since 2011, the allies of the West, the ones that have been funding and funneling in terrorists into Syria, be they Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Turkey, and Israel.
So what got you interested in covering Syria?
How did that come about?
Because a lot of people have been, since you're actually reporting facts that counter the mainstream established news media and our government, people have been impugning your character all over the place.
And so just tell everybody here now what got you interested in Syria and how did you come about to go there?
Sure.
I would just note first, I think that if I towed the line, use the rhetoric of the corporate media and the NATO propagandist, including Amanfur, people would be celebrating me and I'd be wealthy.
But because I'm reporting as I see it and I don't have an agenda and nobody's paying me to say what I say, I am being vilified, as you're truly aware.
But basically, when things were kicking off in Syria, I had no prior knowledge of Syria.
I had no misconceptions or preceptions about Syria.
And I was living in Gaza, in occupied Palestine at the time, doing activism there, trying to bring awareness to the truly horrifying plight of Palestinians under brutal siege and random bombings and massacres.
But so that said, when things started in 2011, I was also enduring the same power outages as Palestinians in Gaza.
I wasn't well informed.
But at some point in 2011 and 2012, I started paying very close attention, reading a variety of sources, consulting friends and analysts who I respected, and felt like something was really wrong with what we were being told was happening in Syria.
In March 2013, I left Gaza, finally, and went back to Canada.
I started asking Syrian Canadians.
And their replies to my questions on what was happening in Syria were very interesting because many of them said, you know, when things started in 2011, we were hopeful.
We wanted change.
We wanted political change in Syria.
We wanted, some of us went back to Syria and supported the demonstrations.
But very quickly on, they and people in Syria that I later encountered and interviewed said what we saw was not political change.
These were brutal protests.
These were thuggish protests, not demanding actual political reforms.
So, you know, knowing what I was hearing from people I trusted in Canada and then going in 2014, April 2014 for my first time to Syria, hearing a narrative that was in stark contrast to what we were being told by corporate media really, I'm sure, like yourself, motivated me to do as much as possible to shed some truth on really a vacuum of lies and manufactured media around Syria.
So if those protests didn't want political change, those thuggish protests that we now find out many of them were outside agitators, the al-Qaeda, ISIS, people being funded by the CIA, Qatar, and Saudi Arabia.
So now, what were the point of those thuggish protests if they weren't for political change?
Well, I mean, some of the initial protests did call for certain things, like the amend, sorry, the end to the emergency law in Syria, the release of political prisoners.
And this is an important note, because these so-called political prisoners included people who were active in the 80s, including Muslim Brotherhood people.
And many of these so-called political prisoners went on to join the so-called rebels and have become violent leaders or part of these different al-Qaeda-affiliated or al-Qaeda, you know, working with al-Qaeda groups.
Some of the other demands included the lifting of certain laws that pertain to Syria's.
And this is, sorry, Jimmy, but this is why I do refer back to Stephen Gowan's article, because he gives the context of decades prior what was happening, various attempts of CIA coup d'états, Syria being at war with Israel, and the fact that, yes, it was an authoritarian government, but there are reasons for it.
And meanwhile, and this is something I heard from Syrians themselves, they had free education, free health care.
They were one of the safest countries.
Life was affordable.
And all of that has been devastated by this foreign war and sanctions on Syria.
Well, we already know, and we've reported on this show, it's well documented that the CIA, acting at the behest of the United States, is not a fan of democracy anywhere.
What they really want, what the CIA does, and we know this all the way back from General Smedley Butler, who wrote about this and the banana wars and all the stuff that happened in South America, is that what the United States does is they go and they, if there is a government that's socialist,
like you say, and they want to keep their natural resources for their own people, instead of giving it to a corporation from the West, what we'll do is send our Marines down there and our CIA, undermine their sovereignty, their government, overthrow them, install a right-wing strongman who was then favorable to our corporations, and then we extract their natural resources and wealth from that country.
That's basically what's been happening.
And so we tried to, we've been trying to overthrow Syria since the 50s, right?
That's not a secret, right?
I think even the CIA admits that they did that.
That's right when they overthrew Iran, which also had a democratically elected president.
They overthrew him.
Why?
Because he wanted to spread democracy across the Middle East.
And the CIA likes strong-armed theocracies like Saudi Arabia because you can count on them to do the bidding of corporate America.
You can't count on democracies to do the bidding of corporate America.
So that's why the CIA, that's why they don't like democracies.
That's why they don't like socialism.
That's why they don't like leaders who take the resources of their country and give it back to their own people.
And what's happening in Syria also, I don't know if you've reported on this part of it, but we have, is that they're trying to send a natural gas pipeline to Europe, and that natural gas is going to come from Qatar.
And so that's why Russia doesn't want Syria to be overthrown, because they don't want to have that competition for selling fossil fuels to Europe that's going to come from Saudi Arabia.
Now, have you heard about that?
Oh, absolutely.
And I think Israel is also involved in this Qatari pipeline.
And certainly Russia has its own geopolitical and its own other interests.
But the bottom line in terms of Russian involvement in Syria is that they were invited by the Syrian government to participate in fighting terrorism.
The American-led coalition was not invited, and their presence in Syria is illegal.
And not only that, they've attacked Syrian civilians.
They've attacked Syrian army posts, including September 2016.
And some days after that, there was a manufactured incident of a convoy being attacked, and it turned out it was done by one of the terrorist factions.
And this illegal attack, murdering between 60 and 80 or more Syrian soldiers and enabling ISIS to take over in Deir-Zor, was suddenly non-existent.
And the Americans never apologized for it.
And there have been many incidents of them attacking Syrian positions.
So, I mean, in terms of the pipelines being one of the major reasons, yes, but Israeli involvement is also another major reason.
Yes, there's not just go ahead.
I'm sorry, go ahead.
I was just going to say it's staggering.
I mean, there's actually so many statements, declarations from Israeli leadership themselves saying, well, actually, we have no problem with these al-Qaeda, ISIS terrorists.
No, they're the lesser evil.
Well, that's why they're treating them in their hospitals.
That's why they're funneling them in and out of Syria via the occupied Syrian Golan.
And that's why Israel is attacking Syria so many times.
Are you surprised at how easily propaganda works on America?
Are you surprised at the ubiquity of the forwarding of the government message, which is really the military-industrial complex message?
It just gets repeated by the mainstream media and the United States ad nauseum without any critical.
I mean, no one.
They're sitting there.
They're literally gushing, emotionally gushing over missiles taking off to go bomb people in another country.
Is that shocking to you?
And how do other people around the world see the U.S. media's coverage of this?
I guess sadly to me, it's not shocking because I've been very focused on Syria and Palestine and Yemen, which nobody talks about and which Saudi Arabia is massacring for a number of years.
So the hypocrisy of the media and these Western leadership statements or things that go on in the United Nations don't surprise me.
They gross me out intensely.
But when you consider how much, you know, I think you talk more regularly and you know more about ownership of the corporate media and who's really funding or what agenda they have.
However, I mean, even when somebody off radar speaks out, if they say something that does not align to this message, then they will be smear campaigned.
And, you know, the general public, I really don't blame them.
I mean, you would expect that they would remember the daughter of the Kuwaiti ambassador who cried about incubator babies and pretended to be a nurse, but they don't.
You would expect they'd remember the lies about Gaddafi's troops on Viagra raping people, and they don't.
And there's so many manufactured lies in all the various conflicts or otherwise known as invasions in the recent decade or two or more that people should know about.
But I think that if there were more Jimmy Doors out there, maybe people would be more aware.
But when people are reading from a script, literally reading from a script about the latest atrocities in Syria, then the public will be, they'll remain ignorant.
And when human rights groups, so-called, which are really many of them, the arm of the State Department or other nations, but Human Rights Watch, Amnesty International, when they are bleating the same chorus, the same lies, when Ken Roth is tweeting about Aleppo and it's actually Shijayi, Gaza, or it's another area of Syria, it's an area that's been destroyed or attacked by the precious rebels.
And when Amnesty International claims that they have evidence about torture in a prison called Saydnaya, but they have no researchers on the ground, and they grossly overestimate the even possible numbers that could have been in that conflict.
But people believe these things.
I mean, it's a very large and uphill battle we're fighting in our efforts to educate people.
So, no, I'm not surprised, but I am disgusted.
I am surprised, actually, because, you know, I lived through the Iraq war here, and we all figured, you know, Hillary Clinton didn't win the election in 2008 against Barack Obama because of the Iraq war, and she was for it.
People were sick and tired of these wars.
Donald Trump got elected partly on the basis of that he's a non-interventionist, that his whole thing is that we're getting bogged down in the Middle East and we should get the hell out of there.
And that's a reason why a lot of people voted for him.
And you see what just happened within 100 days, the military-industrial complex got their hands on him, and they turned him just that quickly, and he's bombing again, and he's bombing in everywhere now, about Yemen and Syria, and he's provoking North Korea, and he's doing everything he can possibly do that the military-industrial complex wants because he wants to keep America pretty scared so we keep spending way more money than ever necessary on our military, which is what's happening.
It's working perfectly.
And they got rid of the draft.
We used to have a draft in the United States, which got people out protesting against wars, but they got rid of that.
And they just made everybody so poor that they can't afford college.
So now you have to go into the military if you want to go to college or get a decent job.
So that's how they do it.
And nobody protests that because that's just capitalism.
So tell me a little bit more about the white helmets because I have a feeling that they're not on the up and up, are they?
Well, I have to commend a dear friend and colleague of mine, Vanessa Bele, who's really done so much in-depth research.
Many of us have researched, but she very doggedly pursued this myth of these so-called rescuers in Syria.
White helmets were founded in 2013 by a British ex-military officer.
They've been funded by well over $100 million, according to different public records, by Western nations.
Their main line is that they are rescuing civilians in Syria, presumably from Syrian and or Russian atrocities.
And they claim to be volunteers and neutral.
But by now, we've seen so many, not only their Facebook and social media accounts showing them, you know, in one instance wearing a white helmet, in another instance, holding a weapon or firing cannon, but also there are instances of them actually wearing the white helmets and standing with al-Qaeda or ISIS flags, terrorist flags.
And then furthermore, when I was in Aleppo last time, it was November 2016, my fourth time to Aleppo.
And while I didn't at that time go to East Aleppo because it wasn't yet liberated, I did meet people from East Aleppo who had fled the presence of these terrorists, including El Nisra, including Al-Qaeda in Syria, including the various factions that the West says are moderates.
These two families that I interviewed said they tried many times to flee before, and they were prevented from fleeing by these different terrorist factions who were hoarding food and medicine and giving medical treatment only to their own.
When I asked about the white helmets, these people had never heard of them.
Later, Aleppo was liberated, Eastern Aryas Aleppo.
And so, again, Vanessa Bely was on the ground there interviewing people.
And then later on, a number of other independent people.
Pierre LeCorf, a Frenchman living in Aleppo for the last year, he also has done a lot of documentation.
And he, Vanessa, and Carla Ortiz, a Brazilian actress, many are, I believe she's Brazilian.
Sorry about that.
I got that wrong.
Bolivian.
But many people have gone to these areas, including the White Helmets headquarters.
And guess what, Jimmy?
White Helmet's headquarters is littered with al-Qaeda and ISIS slogans and flags.
And Islamic, and I don't mean normal Islam.
I mean these extremist Wahhabi takfiri Islam paraphernalia and slogans.
And so that, you know, the claim that these white helmets are neutral, given all these facts, is completely laughable.
And then the fact that they only operate in al-Qaeda and other terrorist areas.
And then as, you know, I'll just take this moment if I may, Jimmy, just to clear one thing up.
In the UN press panel, press conference panel that you probably have seen, I said a number of things.
And, you know, some of these vulture media that, you know, issued their own articles or fact checks on me went after two points, totally negating the points I made about the million and a half people suffering under terrorist bombings and snipings for many years.
And the various other points I made in 25, 30 minutes.
The two points they focused on, one, I will admit, I'm human and I didn't articulate as well as I could have.
So the one is about children possibly being recycled.
So I will say I cannot prove that this one particular child has been recycled, sometimes called Aya.
What I can say is the White Helmets have participated in faking media.
And there are many examples, including the so-called mannequin challenge.
And also, not only the white helmets, but these various dubious media sources like the Aleppo Media Center, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, and even a group of filmmakers in Egypt were arrested making a film purporting to be in Aleppo under Assad's bombs.
So what my main point was, and I should have articulated better, was that we need to be very careful and very, you know, we need to question the media were being presented.
And the other point was that I mentioned the Al-Quds hospital.
My only error there was in saying that it hadn't been hit, because I cannot prove it wasn't hit, but it was not reduced to rubble, as the MSF or Doctors Without Borders stated.
So why would the, yeah, I saw that.
Why would the Doctors Without Borders state that it was reduced to rubble if it hadn't been?
Because they were relying on their sources on the ground, which happened to be terrorist-affiliated doctors or these various independent, unnamed activists.
I know many people, including a doctor from Aleppo, Dr. Nabil Antaki, who speaks excellent English and French, who went to the Al-Sukuri district where Al-Quds Hospital is located, and it's still standing.
Vanessa Bely went there.
Pierre LeCorp went there.
Various other independents have gone there.
It's still standing.
It wasn't reduced to rubble.
And there's no way in hell, even if it had been reduced to rubble, that it was rebuilt.
So, you know.
No, no, we've seen that.
No, I've documented, you know, it's amazing that so you, I saw the press conference you're talking about.
That's when I first became aware of you, and that's when we first covered all this stuff.
And it was through your reporting, your first-hand reporting on the ground, right?
Which no one else is doing.
And that's what you're exposing, that these people are just reporting everything second and thirdhand.
There aren't any human rights.
And the people who are the white helmets on the ground there, you're saying started by ex-British military.
And they get funded.
So I've seen all the disinformation in the mainstream media.
And we show how people, they report it.
We show how when they call them rebels when they're in Syria and they're called terrorists when they're in Iraq.
Yeah, so and we showed how we funded al-Qaeda when we called them anti-Soviet freedom fighters, anti-Soviet, and then they turned into Osama bin Laden who then attacked us.
And now they're the worst people in the world who cut people's heads off with knives.
But remember, Eva, we use good Christian bombs that don't blow up babies or women.
it dodges them and it finds just soldiers and then it hugs them to death that's the way you're Well, some of these are also al-Qaeda bombs made in Syria using gas canisters stuffed with explosives and shrapnel and fired on civilian populations.
But our media doesn't seem to think that's significant.
And just on, before I forget, because I already did, there's these two villages named Fu and Kafraya, and they're in western Syria, in Idlib.
And I'm sure you heard about the convoy that was attacked.
And media had different reports and the numbers, but sources on the ground in Aleppo were saying 200 civilians, of whom 116 children.
And one of those sources was an Aleppo MP, and others were people that Vanessa, who's back in Syria, Vanessa, she took testimonies to civilians who had survived that massacre.
Really sadistic massacre.
And I think some important points are our media described it as a hiccup.
Yeah, I saw it.
We covered that.
I saw the CNN guy.
So it's going to keep going on, these evacuations after this hiccup.
He literally said that.
A hiccup, the slaughter of 116 children, 200 people.
When it's done by people who we're supporting, it's called a hiccup.
But when it's done by people we're opposed to, we have to bomb them because we're humanitarians.
And the thing is, it followed a week or two after the alleged, still unproven gas attacks, unproven in the sense we don't know, we cannot prove, and it's highly unlikely that the Syrian government or Russians did it.
It's far more likely that the so-called rebels, otherwise known as terrorists in Syria, did it.
They have a history of doing so.
They have possession of the only chlorine factory, as documented by Time, even back in 2012 or 13.
And they have, as documented by Seymour Hirsch, access to Sarin thanks to Turkey and other agents.
And it's not in Syria's interest to use gas attacks when they can use conventional bombs to fight terrorists.
But just a week or two after, I forget the chronology, there's a sick savage attack on civilians, mostly women, children, elderly, and ill, leaving Fuen Kafra, where they've been besieged since March 2015, denied food, denied medical care, truly besieged, not like all this crap they were talking about, Aleppo or Ghouta or now Idlib, truly besieged, truly suffering, and these people are attacked.
And that's a hitbox.
And that's a hiccup.
So we've seen the Western media's just blatant lies, right?
So the whole thing is a big lie about why we're, you know, you ask people, why are we in Syria?
And people, they don't even, I mean, in America, when I ask people, why do you think we're in Syria?
And they always kind of pause like, well, I never thought about it.
It's hilarious.
Why are we there?
We're there because of Western imperialism at the behest of the petrodollar.
That's why we're there.
Eva, we have to say goodbye right now, but you're on your way back to Syria, correct?
I am.
Yeah, I should be there in the near future.
Okay, so good luck.
Please stay safe.
And I hope you check back in with us if you can.
Whenever you can, let us know.
And if you have an update and you want to get the message out, we'll certainly let people know.
And, Jimmy, I just have to say thank you for using your platform and your humor and your intelligence to actually share the truth because it's been immensely frustrating to see the lies.
So really, thank you so much for what you're doing.
I appreciate it.
No, you're the one who's really doing the courageous stuff.
I'm just sitting here in my studio.
So you're doing the work.
You're actually on the ground.
And I'm just re-reporting the stuff that you're actually letting people know.
And if it wasn't for you, nobody would know anything.
So Eva Bartlett, like, do you have a website or anything that we can tell people to go to or blog?
Yeah, I have my old blog from my Gaza days.
It's ingaza.wordpress.com.
Okay.
Everybody check it out.
And we'll have you back on as soon as you have some new stuff to report from Syria.
Eva Bartlett, thank you very much.
So there's this big announcement out of Buckingham Palace today.
Not sure if you heard about it.
In order to discuss this important matter, I have on the phone official spokesperson for the British royal family, Sir Glively Gunningham Thirsk of Rabbin Sheaths.
Mr. Gunning and Thirsk, thank you for joining us.
Oh, please call me Sir Clively.
Okay, okay, Glively.
Sir Clively, if you would.
Or if you wish to be familiar, simply Raventhief.
All right, Sir Clively, you can just call me Jimmy.
I shan't be addressing you directly at any point in this conversation.
All right, fair enough.
So when Buckingham Palace was preparing to release a statement, a lot of people feared the worst that there had been a serious illness or death in the family.
Oh, no, no, no, not at all.
All the members of the House of Windsor are in excellent health due to their genetic constitution as descendants of the halist aristocracies of the Middle Ages, as well as their stringent adherence to homeopathic treatments.
Right as rain, the loss of them, I dare say.
No, the announcement was, however, of a titanic nature.
The retirement from public life of His Excellency, Prince Philip, the Duke of Edinburgh.
Hey guys, Ron Placone here.
There's more to that Sir Clively phone call, but unfortunately, we are out of time.
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