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July 30, 2016 - Jimmy Dore Show
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The Jimmy Dore Show.
Hello, this is Jimmy.
Who's this?
Yes, this is Hillary Supporter.
Hillary supporter, so good to hear from you.
Thank you.
It's good to be talking.
Thank you.
Well, it's official.
Hillary's the nominee.
What did you think of the Democratic Convention?
It was fantastic.
Those nights were wonderful.
It was the greatest thing that has ever happened.
Certainly the greatest thing that's ever happened to this garbage fire of a country.
They put me, these nights have put me, they put me on a natural high that I must admit I am greatly enjoying.
Uh-huh.
Emphasis on natural high.
Thank you very much.
Right.
Unlike others, such as yourself, I don't need GMO franken foods in order to have a good time.
My body is perfectly capable of creating dopamine on its own, I'll have you know, with nothing but a solid macrobiotic diet prescribed by a mystical and wise Asian person and anti-anxiety medication.
Okay, I got it.
So you're happy about the convention.
That's good to hear.
Now, you're normally not so.
There were certainly a few things that made me very angry, though.
Let me tell you about them.
Yeah, okay, I figured this was coming.
Be quiet.
Needless to say, there was the requisite pointless chirping of a bunch of straight white males who apparently still haven't gotten the memo that their time is done.
Over.
Exhibit A, Bernie Sanders.
No, thank you.
Don't even.
You must not be too happy about Tim Kaine, then.
Well, currently I'm entertaining the theory that Tim Kane is actually a trans woman and will begin transitioning after the inauguration.
That is the only thing that could make any sense.
The only reason that Hillary would pick Tim Kane.
Do you have any of any evidence of that?
Yes.
Hillary is inclusive, not a bigot.
And also, look at that man's eyelashes.
All right, then.
Also.
Oh, and how, and those Bernie bros all interrupted Leon Panetta's speech.
That made me furious.
Really?
That made you this mad?
Yes.
The entitlement.
It was unimaginable.
Here is this person who is trying to...
Well, actually, Leon Panetta appears to be from that strain of Italian that is, let's face it, not actually white.
So he is a person of color and therefore an ally.
So here is this ally on the podium endorsing Hillary Clinton, telling the world what an amazing, Titanic, unparalleled wonderment Hillary Clinton is.
And then this stinky pack of Bernie bros starts booing.
It was disgusting.
It disgusted me.
Okay, well, first of all, they weren't Bernie bros.
They were the anti-war wing of the Democratic Party.
And they weren't booing Hillary per se.
They were booing the jingoistic national security rhetoric Panetta was espousing, like interventionist wars and drone attacks on civilians.
Okay, read a newspaper.
Bernie Sanders has dropped out.
Didn't you see him sitting there like a tired old grandpa that no one cares about?
Like he deserves, yeah.
So take your anti-war BS and take it to someone who cares.
I'm with Hillary.
I'm with Hillary.
And when Hillary is president, the U.S. military is her military.
She gets to do it at what she wants.
It's her right.
Okay, Hillary supporter.
I'm trying to understand this here.
You seem super liberal and progressive.
So aren't you supposed to be anti-war on some level?
I am pro-Hillary.
That's what I am.
You get to hijack my narrative.
And being anti-war 10 years ago was all fine and dandy when that monster Bush was in office.
But now being anti-war is just a tool used by misogynists to try and silence a powerful woman.
That's all it is.
With all due respect, Hillary supporter, being anti-war should be a consistent stance, not some fashion trend like Tywip.
Um, please keep your phallic references to yourself, first of all.
Second of all, how long will Hillary have to apologize for voting for the Iraq war?
Forever?
Only George Bush would have to answer for that.
Not the powerful people who agreed with and supported him.
Let me explain this to you.
Getting over the Iraq war is now the super progressive thing to do.
As is being totally cool with our current foreign and military policy because of Hillary.
I got over Iraq in 2008 when Hillary first ran.
I was way ahead of it.
I was way ahead of everyone on that.
The I War wasn't even over yet.
So kudos to me.
Catch up.
So you're cool with all of it.
The droning, the droning of wedding parties in Afghanistan where dozens of innocent human beings get slaughtered.
Oh, a wedding.
You mean that antiquated social construct where a young woman is basically sold against her will by her father to some man?
Oh, Crimea River.
In a way, those drones were doing those people a favor.
Wow.
Okay.
Wow.
I know.
If I were concerned with accountability in the slightest, I might be sort of worried that I just said that.
Okay, Hillary supporter.
Did you have any misgivings at all about the kerfuffle that ushered in the convention?
That is to say, the DNC email leaks?
Oh, excuse me, those things that show that Democrats like Hillary.
I'm sorry.
I don't see the problem.
Well, the problem is that the DNC chair, W. Washerman Schultz, clearly was favoring Hillary over Bernie in the campaign and seemed to take action to affect her favorite outcome.
How dare you?
How dare you question the integrity of a strong woman with a hyphenated last name?
And yes, she did that.
So what?
Bernie shouldn't even have been running in the first place.
We've been over this before.
Well, regardless how you feel about Bernie, it was her job to ensure a fair and democratic campaign.
After all that, you're not bothered by how swiftly she was snatched up by Hillary's campaign?
Absolutely not.
Hillary and Debbie are friends.
They're both powerful and strong and amazing women.
And people like that have to stick together because no one else will give them what they want.
They have to take it with alliances.
And they have to shield each other from the consequences of their wrongdoings because no one else in this misogynist world would do it for them.
Okay.
All right.
And their other friend is Andrea Mitchell.
She's the third part of the triumvirate.
And she's been working tirelessly around the clock for her friends Hillary and Debbie to try and hide the fact that the media was totally in the bag for Hillary this whole time.
That is strength.
And what she had to put up with, this fascist pig, Bernie, who was on her show.
Did you see that?
Did you see Bernie on Andrea?
Yeah, well, he was such a woman hater, he didn't even let her interrupt him.
It made me want to vomit.
Seriously, it's disgusting.
Well, I think it's fair to say you and I have a different idea of what democracy is.
I sure hope we do.
I hope we do.
Yours is gross minus Hillary.
End of story.
Hillary's an honorable person, and she does anything for her friends.
And you know why?
Her honor is called loyalty.
That's why.
Sure.
And I don't care if it's you or Trump or Palestinians, but whoever is standing in the way of her or the people that she's loyal to better watch out.
That's why she's going to be the greatest president ever told.
Okay.
Okay, Hillary supporter.
Victory certainly hasn't made you any more pleasant person.
Thanks for talking to us.
I hate you.
Goodbye.
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We're in Philadelphia, the DNC last week, the RNC, this week, the DNC.
It was sweltering heat.
And I went out in the streets because there were lots of protests happening, lots of actual protests, lots of people who knew what they were talking about.
The RNC, not so much.
The DNC, yes.
Lefties have something to say.
Lefties are tired of corporatism inside their party.
And lots of them want a new party.
So we went out on the street and we talked to a lot of people every day for a couple of hours every day in the sweltering.
When I say sweltering, that's exactly what I mean.
But I do it for you people.
And I do it for the love, for the love of the news and journalism.
Anyway, so we talked to Jill Stein.
Also, we were out at a protest, and she gave a fiery speech, I thought.
I had never seen her give a speech before.
I'd only seen her interviewed, and she really stepped up.
So we're going to take a look at that.
We're going to, of course, take a look at what I thought of the overall, what I thought of the nominee's speech, Hillary Clinton, and a lot, lot more.
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Okay, on day one, on Monday at the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia, I went out to City Hall and the Philadelphia Convention Center to see what kind of protests were happening.
And the first thing I saw was a speech by Jill Stein was giving a speech.
She was having a rally.
And so let's listen to a little of that.
And then I interview her afterwards.
So we're going to take you down to the street level in Philadelphia at City Hall.
Okay, we're at Protest Central.
This is City Hall in Philadelphia at the DNC.
We got some bike cops, huh?
Look at that.
Jill Stein is speaking right now.
Let's go listen to what Jill Stein has to say.
Don't freak out.
Because the lesser evil does not work.
Just look at the results of the last 15, 16 years.
We were told we had to use the politics of fear and vote against your fears rather than for what you believe in.
And what did we get?
All those reasons.
We were told to vote for the lesser evil because you didn't want the expanding wars.
Because you didn't want the meltdown on the climate.
Because you didn't want the massive Wall Street bailouts or the expanding security state or the massive prison industrial complex or the attack on immigrants or on our civil liberties and the right of the free press.
That's exactly what we got by allowing ourselves to be silenced.
When we silence ourselves with this lesser evil thing...
we create a moral vacuum.
If our voices aren't there as the public interest, it's the corporate predator politicians who are there.
They fill this moral vacuum and it's all downward from there.
And furthermore, people stop coming out to vote for lesser evil politicians that are throwing them under the bus.
So it's a losing proposition.
The lesser evil merely paves the way to the greater evil.
And that's exactly what we have seen happen.
After the election of a lesser evil president, we saw first one House of Congress flip from blue to red and then another house of Congress, not because it was a victory.
It was not a victory for Republicans.
It was a loss for Democrats because the base just couldn't bring themselves to come out and vote.
Labor stayed home.
Women stayed home.
Immigrants and Latinos stayed home and youth stayed home.
The answer here, the answer at the end of the day, is very simple.
Forget the lesser evil.
Fight for the greater good.
Like our lives depend on it.
Thank you.
In this election, we are not just deciding what kind of a world we will have, but whether we will have a world or not going forward.
The day of reckoning is coming closer.
Whether you're looking at the crash of the climate, the expanding police state, the expanding prison complex, the next crash of the economy, the new nuclear arms race created by none other than Barack Obama, who's created a trillion-dollar program for new nuclear weapons and modes of delivery.
So we say this is not a time to silence ourselves.
You are the moral conscience of this nation.
Together, we have the power to create an America and a world that works for all of us.
We can create that world with a Green New Deal, with a foreign policy based on international law and human rights.
No more $100 billion deals to give the Saudis terrible weapons to distribute to every reckless terrorist in the Middle East.
We're saying no to selling weapons.
We're saying no to providing subsidies to countries like the country of Israel, which is violating human rights and international law.
We say to our allies in all humility, because we have been leading the charge in violating international law and human rights.
So in all humility, we say it's time to turn the page from a crisis for people, planet, and peace to a new day for all of us on a small planet in which we are all going to sail together or we are all going to sink together.
The words of Martin Luther King have come home with incredible power.
The threat to justice anywhere, injustice anywhere, is a threat to justice everywhere.
We need an America and a world that works for all of us.
The power to create that world is not just in our hopes.
It's not just in our dreams.
Right here and now, it's in our hands.
Together we are unstoppable.
Thank you.
Okay, so that was Jill Stein, and I don't know how well it translates over the air, but to be there in person, she really stirred it up.
I didn't know she had that in her.
I had never seen her give a live speech.
I'd only seen her be interviewed.
So I don't know if it translated through just on audio, but it was very stirring.
And you could feel her passion.
You could feel that it was legit.
And it made me want to talk to her.
So we did.
So I got her over and we asked her a few questions.
So here's our interview with Jill Stein.
Jim, I'm asking a question.
How are you?
I thought that was a great speech.
Oh, thank you so much.
Now, I keep you saying that you shouldn't vote for the lesser of two evils.
Which one is it?
Right, yeah.
And so now you say we have to stop voting for the lesser of two evils.
Why?
Because this politics of fear that has told us to vote against our fears rather than for our beliefs, it has a track record.
We've been doing this for a while.
This politics of fear delivered everything we were afraid of.
All the reasons you're told to vote for the lesser evil, because you don't want the expanding wars.
You didn't want the meltdown.
Yes, exactly.
We get it anyway because it's not a solution.
The lesser evil paves the way to the greater evil because people stop voting for politicians and their parties that are throwing them under the bus.
So electing a lesser evil president basically caused Congress to flip first in one midterm and then the other from blue to red because people were so disappointed in what they thought was going to be, you know, a progressive president turned out to be a lesser evil.
People won't support it.
So you wind up getting the greater evil anyhow.
The other reason not to vote for the lesser evil is because we actually have the power of the numbers right now.
We actually have 42 million people who will vote to cancel their debt if they're given an opportunity to do so.
It's all about getting the word out.
The corporate media is working overtime to blanket our campaign in a wall of darkness so that people don't know.
Why are they doing that?
You know, we're at 6 and 7 percent in the polls.
Republicans who were barely 2 and 3 percent, like Jeb Bush, for example, you know, in their primary, they were getting loads of coverage.
We're getting none.
As we've seen by that by the revelations in the emails, this doesn't happen by accident.
There's a strategy going on here Between the DNC and the big corporate media.
I would love to see the other emails that have been flying back and forth because we are a very inconvenient truth for Hillary Clinton.
There actually is a place to vote as a feminist or as a proponent of peace or as a progressive.
Hillary Clinton is not that.
And if you had any doubts about it, her choice of a vice president with Tim Kaine is, you know, is the nail in the coffin there on the future of the progressive movement inside the Democratic Party.
Do you have a message for Bernie Sanders?
Well, because everybody heard him tell his followers to, or his supporters, to vote for her again this morning, which was not received well.
And do you have a message for him?
I have a message for the Bernie movement, which is that it's a movement.
It's not a man, as Bernie said many times.
His campaign is, you know, it's like his child in a way that it's come of age.
It's grown up.
He can't tell it what to do.
You know, this is what democracy looks like.
This is what empowerment looks like.
This is what justice looks like.
And he may not see his way forward, but there's a younger generation that is looking at the future, not looking behind at the past.
And they know there is no future in a counterrevolutionary Democratic Party.
And this movement is going forward to the promise of democracy and the future that we deserve.
There's no stopping us.
And what do you what would you aren't you surprised to see Hillary not trying to get some of your 6% voters?
Like, don't you think because it's such a tight race, wouldn't it make political sense for her to come and try to get some of your voters to vote for her?
And why do you think she isn't?
I don't think Hillary is strategic.
You know, we've seen that over and over again in her foreign policy as in her campaign strategy.
You know, she does not have a very good track record for making good decisions or having good political judgment.
Yeah, I mean, I think she's kind of blowing every opportunity here.
Having not appointed Bernie for her vice presidential candidate, you know, it was an incredible slap in the face to this movement.
And then she just doubled down and did it again many times over, not only by appointing Tim Kaine as her VP, but also by consigning Bernie to this little footnote in the proceedings.
How could she more convince the progressive movement that it has no future inside of the Democratic Party than every step that she has taken?
So people have said about you more what they've said about Bernie, but in spades, that y'all, you're not, you can't win.
You're not, nobody's going to be attracted.
I just saw you give a speech that was a barn burner that really got people stirred up.
It got me stirred up.
And I was really enjoying it.
So what do you say to those people who say that you're a spoiler, you don't have a chance?
I saw something different just now.
Well, did you know that the parties of the abolition movement, when the abolition movement first got political, because first it was a social movement, then it got political and developed political parties, the Free Soil, the Liberty, and then the Republican, which actually became a major party at this time of great social upheaval.
We are in a time of great social upheaval right now.
It's time to really blow open this stranglehold of this corporate political system that is throwing us and our future under the bus.
I think the American people are not going to be fooled here.
Those who are urging to forget this spoiler, who are they?
You know, these are the political pundits.
These are the party operatives who don't want, you know, they don't want it rained on their parade.
They don't want their good little niche in the scheme of things spoiled.
Why in the world would they be telling the American public, who's demanding other choices, why would they be telling them to basically shove it right now?
I mean, that's an offense to our democracy.
We could actually change our voting system right now in the stroke of a pen.
We have model legislation that would enable any state legislature to change the way they count the presidential vote to a ranked choice voting system, which means voters get to come and rank their choices.
It gets rid of this whole politics of fear thing.
It totally enables people to stand up and vote number one for what you want, and number two, it's your safety.
And it ensures if your number one loses, your vote is reassigned to your second choice.
This is like the obvious solution.
We propose this.
We filed this bill.
What is that bill called?
Ranked choice voting.
And it's being promoted actually by Fair Vote, which is a nonprofit organization that does this.
We'll have it up on our website soon.
How come even I haven't really heard about this push to do this, it seems like the thing that would take away the Why don't we do this?
Our campaign filed this bill the first time I ran for office in 2002 against Mitt Romney in a Democratic state where everybody was all up in arms.
Oh, you're going to split the vote.
We said, well, here's the bill to prevent any splitting of the vote.
And what do you think they did?
They buried that bill in a Democratic legislature that could have passed it with the blink of an eye.
They choose not to pay.
And 16 years later, it still hasn't gotten out of committee.
Why is that?
It's because they rely on fear.
They have to be able to scare you into voting for them.
The fact that they rely on fear tells you something very important.
They are not your friend.
That alone should lose your vote on their behalf.
Forget it.
They are not your friend now.
They're not your friend in the future.
It's time for us to stand up and build our power.
Love you.
Jill, thanks for talking with us.
We're the ones we've been waiting for.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Okay, that was day one.
That was our one of us being on the street in Philadelphia for the DNC.
That was the first day of the DNC.
That was Monday.
Lots of people were getting together at City Hall to protest.
They would go over to the convention center to protest.
There was a park near the Wells Fargo Convention Center called FDR Park, where they had a free speech zone, which I know I've talked about it a million times on this show.
There's nothing funnier to me or more ironic or antithetical to what the United States is all about than for the government to tell you where you are allowed to go speak freely in a certain section of our country.
I thought the free speech zone in America started at the Atlantic and ended at the Pacific.
So that's just, but I will say this also.
We mentioned it a lot about in Cleveland for the RNC.
Super heavy police presence.
And the Cleveland police, super aggressive, really aggressive.
And, you know, cops are just like anyone else.
They get nervous.
And it was obvious that they were nervous in crowd situations.
They were more nervous, not about the crowd hurting them.
They were nervous to appear weak in front of their fellow officers.
That was obvious.
They were nervous to appear weak.
They were nervous to appear like they didn't know what they were doing.
And so that, I mean, it flew right off them.
We talked about it last week, and we have videos on it over at the YouTube page, my Facebook page.
They're everywhere.
But in Philadelphia, It seemed to be almost the exact opposite.
The Philadelphia police were wearing short sleeves, regular clothes.
They weren't dressed like they were going into a Mad Max end of the earth thing, which is what we saw a lot of Cleveland police dress like.
And they seemed to want to de-escalate.
They didn't seem to want to escalate.
They wanted to keep everything calm, and they were respectful for the most part.
It was, you know, I mean, from what I saw, I was out on the street every day for a couple hours every day in the middle of protests.
And the cops were, you know, the way cops should be.
They were letting people enjoy their country and have freedom of speech.
So kudos to the Philadelphia Police Department.
So what I wanted to say was Jill Stein was a surprise.
She was fantastic and it was gracious of her to talk to us.
I looked forward to talking to her more.
I think she made a lot of great points about the lesser of two evil, and she makes them in a cogent, sober, mature way.
Because we all know those people who support warmongers and fracking, there's nothing more mature than telling people who oppose warmongers and fracking to grow up and shut up.
Is there anything more mature than supporting fracking?
Okay.
Listen, we got a lot coming up in the second half.
Plus, we're going to revisit our phone call with Hillary Clinton.
We talk with Adam Green from the Progressive Change Organization and a lot lot more that's coming up in the second half.
But right now, we're up against a break.
We'll be right back in one minute.
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Welcome back to the second half of this week's Jimmy Dore show.
We were at the Democratic National Convention this week.
We were at the RNC last week.
So this week, Democratic National Convention, much different vibe.
Let's just say, to say the least, much different vibe.
You walk through the floor in the convention center, and there's every type of person.
I did an interview with three Native Americans.
Three Native Americans I talked to.
They had a lot of issues.
One of them was supporting Hillary, and two of them were supporting Bernie.
So even in Native American culture, they're split on the left.
So we saw every kind of person.
I saw Sikh.
I saw Jews.
I saw Christians, Muslims.
We saw black.
We saw white.
We saw Hispanic.
We saw Asian.
What didn't we see?
I mean, and you didn't have to look far.
So it is amazing, the party of the left.
I would say the left party in America, which is Democrats, that they're supposed to be the left party.
We know they've been taken over by corporatists.
But there are a lot of people, half the party is taking it back.
So we're on our way to taking back the Democratic Party, giving it back to the voters and taking it back from the donors, right?
Give it to the voters.
Take it away from the donors.
So we ran into a lot of interesting people on the streets in Philadelphia during different protests.
We just already talked to Jill Stein, and I went to a Bernie Your Bust rally.
There are a lot of people you would know were speaking at Lee Camp.
I don't know if you're familiar.
We've had Lee Camp on the show before.
He's back.
Lee Camp is, he does redacted tonight.
He's a great comedian.
He does a great show.
He's been talking a lot about voter fraud in this election in the primary.
He gave a great speech.
So let's get down to the street level in Philadelphia at the Bernie Your Bust Rally and Lee Camp.
The Bernier bus people seem to be very strong.
It doesn't seem Lee Camp is up next.
We're live at the Bernie Your Bus Rally across from City Hall.
Our next speaker, there doesn't seem to be any lack of enthusiasm for the Bernie Your Bust.
It doesn't seem to matter.
Lee Camp is up next.
I'm really looking forward to this.
We're going to make our voices heard.
Feels good.
This is what matters, not what happens in that convention center.
This is people standing up.
And you know, people tell you you're too political.
Now, you might have lost some Facebook fans, Facebook friends, right?
Too political is the way to be, all right?
Be too political.
All my life I've been told I'm too political.
I'll leave with politics on your sleeve and your thong from the outside.
That was one time and I read the invitation wrong.
I've been told I'm too political to perform at college campuses.
I'm too political for most television networks.
I'm every children's birthday party I perform at.
They feel how to complain for him.
We didn't like that the clown put the balloon animals inside cages and said they were factory barn balloon animals.
Well, f you, I don't care.
I came here to educate these kids.
Wait, this is too political.
Whenever someone tells you they're too political, tell them this.
Silence is a political stance.
All right?
Silence is a political stance.
It is a full-throated endorsement of the status quo.
It is saying, shut up, stop talking, and get behind everything.
These wars, these wars, this decimation of the middle class, of the poor people.
It's saying, get behind all of that.
That is what people tell you are too political.
They are voicing that without saying it out loud.
Silence is a political stance.
Absolutely.
We're in the middle.
I mean, Bernie Sandy said all this stuff.
We're in the middle of something very serious.
And they tell us we don't have enough money to do anything, right?
We don't have enough money to fix our schools.
We don't have enough money to fix our infrastructure.
We don't have enough money to educate and house and feed everyone.
But we have enough money for the largest surveillance infrastructure that has ever existed in the history of mankind.
We have enough.
Yeah, we don't have enough money, but we've got a thousand military bases around the world.
A thousand military bases.
Meanwhile, our economy's filled with debt.
Our people are filled with Kentucky Fried Chicken.
The chicken's filled with hormones.
The hormones filled with mercury.
And we don't know what the f***ing word you're going to be filled with because we defunded NASA.
We're in the country to put a man on the moon.
We can do this.
We can.
We can fix it.
We're in the middle of something very serious.
This is dark versus light.
This is evil versus good.
This is Mel Gibson now versus 1993, Mel Gibson.
This is a drop-down, drag-out, bloody war for the soul of our culture, for cultural hegemony.
This is something very serious.
And a lot of our countries are too dumb, medicated, or blissfully uneducated to realize it.
They've anastotized us with shiny zombified us with telephone folks to reality bullish.
They have done that to us.
But the truth is, we're like a fishbowl.
We're like fish in a fishbowl.
If you just give us a little bit of food and a little plastic treasure chest, we're a chest of plastic treasures.
And we will never even question that all of our thoughts, all of our souls, take place inside of a two-foot bowl.
All right?
We are bigger than this.
We have so much potential.
We could do if we just fought outside of this two-party paradigm that they forced us into.
It's bullshit.
And this unfettered, unregulated capitalist domination of the mental sphere, the natural here and now, it's an extraction.
It's a decimation.
It's a defecation on anything and everything that matters to your average human being.
All right?
And the question now is really just whether we'll take our differences and put them aside for three seconds in order to tell the actual now Titans of Dickery at the top to go themselves with Russian tracking fight.
Yeah!
We can do this and it's on us now.
And it's a privilege to be fighting and marching along with all of you guys, all right?
So, Judge, one more time, I want to say, keep my eye.
I'm here with Lee Camp.
He just gave an amazing speech.
He just got everybody riled up.
That was some great stuff.
What's in the Mercury?
What's in the Mercury?
We don't know because NASA, we defunded NASA, right?
Now, what's your message to the people here at Bernie or Bust?
Aren't you afraid of Trump becoming our president?
Of course, but we can't vote out of fear, all right?
We got to vote our conscience.
We got to vote what we stand up for.
And there's a lot of ways to stand up for that.
I've said since the beginning, it can't be about one man.
I think Bernie's amazing, and he's done a lot of great stuff, and he started a movement that's much bigger than him, and he'll say that himself.
And it needs to be about more than one man or one vote.
So this is incredibly important.
And, you know, I don't think people should live out of fear.
Because, look, the two-party system, they're both taking us off a cliff, environmentally, ecologically.
And the question is just whether do we want to go up at that angle or do we want to go up at that angle?
So really, it's like, well, here's an idea.
Let's get out of those cars.
Let's do something else.
And if we just, well, we could vote out of fear from here till eternity until we go off that cliff.
And so it hasn't diminished your enthusiasm or the fire in the belly for the movement that Bernie has been kind of saying he's endorsing Hillary?
No, I don't listen to him about the Hillary endorsement and everything else I think he said is pretty important.
But no, I think the movement, people standing up and not taking corporate donations, which a lot of the people he's gotten behind don't take corporate money.
I think we need to start a clean money certification and candidates could go on stage and say, I've got the clean money certification, you don't.
And let people know who in their areas are the clean money candidates.
I think.
And that would be nonpartisan, and I think we should do it that way.
In this election cycle, is there anything Hillary could do to win your vote?
No, I don't think so.
I don't know.
I don't think so.
What do you say to the people who say it's white privilege that you're not going to vote for Hillary?
I've heard people say the reverse.
They'd say, oh, well, you're doing well enough that you can vote for Hillary and that's okay for you.
Whereas I'm struggling enough, this is them speaking.
I'm struggling enough that I can't just keep going down these two paths.
These aren't working for me.
And so I've heard exactly the opposite of that.
Lee, anything else?
How do the people get involved?
People are watching this.
What do you encourage people to do?
I encourage them to fight in a lot of ways.
I mean, to give a shit about the candidate in their area, about the state and local elections.
There's so much important crap going on.
And that's how the right wing, the insane, nearly Nazi ideas in this country have gotten so far.
There's a lot on the state level.
This is not all about a presidency.
This is about the people.
These people need to not go home and decide, oh, well, it's over because this is about so much.
Even if Bernie had gotten in the goddamn office, this needed to keep going.
It needed to be about something much bigger than that.
So it's just starting and it's not ending.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Thanks for talking.
Thanks for all your work, Jimmy Man.
Right back at you, too.
Great job.
Thanks, man.
That was Lee Camp from Exactly Tonight.
gave a great speech.
So we also ran into on the street in Philadelphia Debbie Lusignan, who's better known as the Sane Progressive to a lot of people.
She's gotten a very popular YouTube show.
And, well, it's kind of self-explanatory.
She's a progressive, and she thinks she's very sane.
Anyway, here's our discussion with her.
I'm here with the sane progressive, Debbie Lusignan.
Now, you've gotten a lot of attention on your YouTube page because you're very progressive and you're Bernie or Buster.
Are you a Bernie or Buster?
I am a Bernie or Buster, but it's really not about political party for me.
It's about staying true to principle over party, and that's what it's about for me.
So what do you think about Bernie telling people again this morning at his meeting, he told people that to vote for Hillary?
I disagree with Bernie.
I absolutely respect the campaign he has run.
I think he took progressive ideas out of the closet.
I think he showed that you can finance a campaign in a totally different way so that we don't have to be enslaved to corporations and military industrial profiteers for our funding.
However, what I think Bernie has missed is that Hillary Clinton is deeply corrupted.
She's highly dishonest.
And she is basically, you know, I've covered election fraud a lot on my show and we have really documented that this has been not so much an election but a coup and so I don't know how Bernie Sanders can say to vote for the person who is being installed fraudulently against the American people's will but and these she's being installed for the very entities that he just said we should fight for the past year.
There's a cognitive disconnect there.
And like I say, you know, I have a lot of respect for Bernie, but I have no problem disagreeing with him whatsoever.
And I part ways with him here.
So now what do you think of this event?
Now, Jill Stein just got done speaking.
Now her message seemed to be that if you keep voting for the lesser of two evils, eventually we won't have a world anymore because the world is in crisis right now through climate change.
That was what I heard.
Is that what you heard?
The world is in crisis.
Well, we can't continue on in this way that we have been on.
I mean, you know, Bernie Sanders called for a political revolution, but the difference is between now and any other point in history is that we are at a climate tipping point.
So we really are running out of time.
Whether we want to do something about that or not, we are in a crisis.
And so the status quo really is an option.
It doesn't mean we're going to, we may go down in flames, but it's not an option if we really want to solve problems.
And I hate the lesser of two evils argument.
To me, it reminds me of the argument you use if you are a codeimbenton enabler and you have an abusive spouse.
And he says, oh, honey, honey, I love you so much, baby.
And if you leave, man, he's just going to treat you worse.
I mean, he may break your jaw.
You know, I may break your jaw, but he'll break your legs.
It's a threat.
It's blackmail.
See, what do you say to people who say that you need to grow up and just do what's right and vote against Trump?
I say that Hillary Clinton has perpetuated a lot of the things that we fear Donald Trump might.
I mean, Hillary Clinton has, you know, we talk about people are afraid of her war, of Donald Trump's war policies.
Hillary Clinton, her policy of wanting a no-fly zone in Syria, which is going to lead us into, you know, ground war with Russia.
Hillary Clinton, if you listen to her Brookings Institute speech last September, she gave a speech to the people who were the founders of the Iraq war.
Now, the Brookings Institute is a military industrial think tank.
And she said in that speech that the Iran war agreement would make it easier to go to war with Iran.
And we have emails that have leaked out from WikiLeaks with her saying that she wants to go to war with Syria to benefit Israel.
And additionally, it said that she wants to go to war with Iran to benefit Israel.
And if we get in a war with Syria, then we would have an excuse to go to war in Iran.
I don't see a lesser of two evils there.
You know what it is, Jimmy?
It's the fear.
And the thing that's really, really hard right now and separates, you know, the people who are ready to act and not is understanding the game is up.
They've taken it over.
The government is gone.
There is no right to run to, and there is no left to run to.
We're going to have to come to ourselves as a people in courage and truth.
And if we do that, we'll take our country back.
Thanks for talking with us.
That was fantastic.
We'll see you again.
Tell everybody what your website is.
I am on YouTube at Sane Progressive, Facebook, Sane Progressive, and Twitter, SAIN Progressive.
Okay, so it turns out it's a really progressive lefty show this week.
I hope you're enjoying this.
This is a view.
This is a view you don't hear any really many places, certainly not in the mainstream.
And if you hear it, it's disparaged and it's mocked and it's condescended to and it's called ridiculous.
So right now, voting your conscience in America is considered ridiculous by mainstream and half the Democratic Party.
So if you vote your conscience, you're ridiculous.
And I say that if everybody voted their conscience, maybe our leaders would come over to our side.
Maybe Hillary Clinton would come try to earn our vote.
If she knew that half the Democratic Party was going to vote their conscience, I think the leader who wants power more than anything would change their stance on things and change their policies to make sure they won the election.
But if they can already count on your vote and they don't have to change their policies and they can remain warmongering corporatists, then they won't.
They'll just keep being that way and they won't change how they are because they know you're going to vote for them anyway because they got that Donald Trump over there.
So anyway, this is a point of view you could agree with, you can disagree with it, but it's not ridiculous.
It's not immature.
And to wag your finger at an environmentalist who's against fracking and the TPP and tell them they have to support that stuff, I think that's moral bankruptcy.
And talk about, hey, so what they're telling people like Debbie and what they're telling people like Lee Camp and Jill Stein is that, hey, why don't you grow up and start supporting fracking, more war, deregulation of Wall Street, and corporatism.
So if you were really grown up and mature, you would get on those things that you're diametrically opposed to.
Okay, so that's enough of that.
Now let's get on to our phone call with Hillary Clinton from a few weeks ago.
I think it was a great time to hear it again.
So here it comes.
Hello.
Hello, Hillary.
Oh, hi, Jimmy.
Thank you for calling me.
Or did I call you?
I'd like to have my interview with Steph.
Oh, hi.
Oh, hello, Miss Clinton.
Thanks so much for taking time.
Steph is great.
She is great.
You don't need to tell me that.
Please don't patronize me.
I already know how great Steph is.
For one thing, she's a woman.
For another, she is an actor with whom I can improvise.
I'm taking an improv class to loosen up and become more fun.
Oh, how's that coming?
I said I wanted to talk to Steph.
Stephanie, are you there?
Hi, Hillary.
Now, that's more like it.
Finally, a woman has the microphone.
Steph, if you're like me, and I'm sure you are no matter what your background, because you're a woman who helps women.
Thanks, Hillary.
I am.
I try to help other women.
I know how important it is for women to help each other.
It's the only way to level the playing field.
That's right, kiddo.
Would you please help this woman in a friendly game of improvisation?
Sure, yes.
Great.
Okay, now I know you can't see me, but imagine I'm stretching on Stage and showing the audience I'm limber and ready to go.
Okay.
And now, give me an occupation.
A teacher.
No.
That's what women used to do when they didn't have options.
You're thinking it's about 50 years behind the times, Steph.
Like when I was working for Barry Goldwater, I was a Goldwater girl pushing to end civil rights right alongside Barry.
I'm not proud of it, but it's just what everyone did back then.
Get over it.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
I didn't.
Of course not.
You probably weren't even born in the United States in 1964.
I was born here and so were my parents.
Welcome.
I welcome you and your parents and will continue to do so in my eminent candidacy.
Welcome.
Give me an occupation.
A bus driver?
Wrong.
I thought you were an improper.
You haven't given me anything to work with here.
Okay.
President.
Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.
Oh, yes.
Yes.
Add a girl, Steph.
Yes.
That was fun.
Okay.
Are you done?
Are you done talking to my wife?
Yes, thank you.
Is that okay?
Yeah, no, that was fast.
I was so good about it, Steph.
What did you think?
I thought you were a great improviser.
Oh, thank you so much.
And thanks for your support.
Okay, we're not really supporting you, though.
Oh.
Well, I don't know what this call was about.
Well, that's a shame because you're going to have to deal with the consequences.
I'm very sorry to hear that, Jim and Steph.
It's well, it's your choice, and you've made a bad decision.
Get over it.
He lost.
Get over it.
Okay.
Okay.
Get over it.
What do you want?
Trump?
He's a jackass.
Bernie is not in the race.
Get over it.
Okay.
Okay.
Get over it.
Okay.
Okay.
All right, madam.
All right, Madam Seggard.
Thank you.
Thank you very much.
Okay.
All right.
That was Mrs. Okay.
Of course, that was the brilliant and hilarious Laura Keitlinger.
Laura Keitlinger, you know her from lots of things all over.
She's one of my all-time favorite comedians.
She wrote that sketch, performed Hillary Clinton's voice.
Big thanks to Laura Keitlinger.
King Keitlinger.
That's her Twitter handle at King Keitlinger.
And I want to remind everybody again, August 17th.
That's a Wednesday, 5 p.m.
You want to come to a live taping of the Jimmy Dore show?
Come to a live taping of the Jimmy Dore show.
It's during the Burbank Comedy Festival at the Flappers Comedy Club.
That's August 17th.
That's a Wednesday.
That's a 5 p.m. show.
So it's early enough.
Nobody's got to worry about getting up early.
5 p.m. show, August 17th.
That's a Wednesday at Flappers Comedy Club in Burbank.
Now, they gave me several links for tickets.
One was a full-price ticket link.
One was a half-price ticket link.
And they gave me a complimentary ticket link.
So I put the complimentary ticket link up over at jimmydoorcomedy.com.
So go to jimmydoorcomedy.com.
You click on the link for free tickets to come to August 17th live Jimmy Door show at the Flappers Comedy Club in Burbank and we'll see you there.
Hey, look, we got a good microphone.
It's back.
So this is the, I want to tell you what's going to be in the premium this week.
So we're going to have double up, if not a triple up on the premium because, well, you know, we didn't get to one last week because of all the long hours in Philadelphia.
So this week, we're going to have some Nina Turner.
Steph was on the street at a protest in Philadelphia.
She showed up at City Hall, and Steph got a little bit with her.
It's pretty cool.
Anyway, it was quite a happening down there, as you can tell.
It was fun.
And, you know, we have some audio from inside, inside the convention hall on the floor.
I was up going, I wanted to talk to delegates that were supporting Hillary Clinton.
So that's what we did.
We went and we talked to, and we asked them about how they felt about Bernie supporters, how they felt about her, her record, how they, and God darn it, if every one of them wasn't one of the most charming people I ever, I talked to black women mostly.
That's who I really wanted to talk to.
And gosh, darn it, they were certainly charming.
And really, they had some great answers.
Anyway, we also talked to three Native Americans and we told you they were split.
Isn't that interesting?
So that's what's happening in the premium.
And how do you become a premium member, Jimmy?
It's only $5 a month.
You go over to JimmyDoorComedy.com.
You click on join premium, you make your donation.
Hey, if you pay for the whole year at once, we give you a month free.
So that's even less than $5 a month.
So if you're not getting that, I don't understand it.
That's what I'm saying.
So I want you to write and say why you don't do that.
Because it's a great way to help support the show.
And that's it.
It's like less than three cents a day, I think.
So that's not even, you can't even buy a piece of gum.
Piece of gum's like a dime.
So there you go.
So go over to JimmyDoorComedy.com, click on join premium.
When you do, we'll send you an email with your passcode and you'll get access to all the back premium stuff.
Okay.
The Hillary supporters phone call was written and performed by Mike McRae.
And thanks again to Laura Keitlinger for doing a great job for writing and performing the Hillary Clinton sketch.
Laura Keitlinger at King Geitlerger on Twitter.
All right, that's it for this week.
Until next week, this is Jimmy Doris saying you be the best you can be, and I'll keep being me.
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