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April 9, 2016 - Jimmy Dore Show
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Get ready for an outstanding entertainment program.
The Jimmy Dore Show!
Hello, Senator Sanders.
For the love of God, who is this?
Senator Sanders, it's me, Jimmy Dore.
Oh, hello, Jimmy.
How are you this fine day?
Very good.
I met you the other week at the Young Church, remember?
Of course.
Yes, I remember.
I remember.
Always good to appear on the internet with people who look like they should be on the internet.
Okay, well, I guess.
The Young Turks is like television in the same way in that episode of Seinfeld when Kramer found the old set to the Merv Griffin show and was interviewing people in his apartment.
Well, I think we do good work there.
Listen, how are you doing, Senator?
Jimmy, I am well.
I'm feeling well.
I'm invigorated by our recent successes.
As you know, we have won seven of the last eight primaries and caucuses.
And I truly feel that our message is successfully getting across to the electorate.
I really do.
I agree with you 100%, Bernie.
I'm glad to hear that.
And don't think I didn't notice you switching from Senator Sanders to Bernie.
Yeah, I'm sneaky like that.
What are you focusing on now?
Well, needless to say, we have our eyes set on the April 19th primary in New York State.
Yeah, how are you feeling about that?
How do you think you're going to do against the Clinton machine there?
Well, obviously, Senator Clinton served as senator from New York.
She has definitely curried favor with some of the more powerful entities and structures of influence in that state.
And by that, I, of course, am referring primarily to Wall Street and its interests.
However, I know a little something about the Empire State myself, having lived in Brooklyn for the first 18 years of my life.
The Big Apple, like most places, has a soft spot for a native son.
There's nothing like a native-born New Yorker.
And aside from that, the message of our campaign, I feel, will resonate upstate as well, where large sections of the economy have been blighted by the very unfair trade practices and policies and corporate tax loopholes that we are railing against.
Yeah, yeah, I'd have to say more than a fighting chance.
But you only lived there for 18 years?
Yes, correct.
My first 18 years, yes.
Then I went to college in Chicago and moved around, finally settling in Vermont.
You know, wow, I have to say, Bernie, you know, your accent is amazingly thick for someone who hasn't lived in New York for over 50 years.
I mean, I know people who were born in other countries and moved here 40 years ago and barely have a foreign accent.
Yes, Jimmy, I have a thick Brooklyn accent.
But I have always seen it as a political asset rather than a liability, given my aggressive and caustic debating style.
Therefore, every year I return to my native Brooklyn with other transplanted natives and undergo a three-day intensive dialect immersion program to ensure that I don't lose it, and it remains as strong as the day I took the subway to Grand Central Station when I was 18 years old.
Really?
How does that work?
Well, we all convene in the small apartment, like the ones we grew up in, with no air conditioning and eat a bunch of food, like deli sandwiches with a shameful amount of sliced meats on them.
And we talk and argue and gesticulate and sweat.
And almost like a revival meeting, we start to shout.
Does this soup need to be this goddamn hot?
I'm unreasonable.
You're unreasonable.
Jesus Christ, enough with the yelling already.
After three days of that, we all walk out there with 1958 Dodgers pennants that have magically grown out of our asses.
And by the way, I'd like to add that, of course, we're talking about the old traditional Brooklyn accent.
Brooklyn has changed a lot.
I don't know what a current Brooklyn accent is, but I would imagine it's whatever Skrillek sounds like when he talks.
Okay, I see.
I got you.
So anyway, that's how I keep my Apple big, Jimmy.
Yeah, well, what's astonishing me about your campaign, Senator, is how the more momentum you gain, the louder your naysayers get.
These people were naysaying you in the beginning, but as time went on, the bigger your chances seem to get, the less chance these people say you have.
What's up with that?
These people are idiots, Jimmy.
I agree.
You have to understand these naysayers you are talking about, they felt from the beginning that I was challenging a candidate who had been permanently chosen by Zeus himself to get the nomination.
I can't overemphasize how much these people see this all as a chain of succession, not a democratic process.
These Clinton acolytes will come up with any reason to discredit my chances.
Look at these people.
Paul Bergala with that creepy grin, like he's in that Sound Garden video.
Black Hole Sun?
Black Hole Sun, exactly.
They're political hacks, and you have to learn to turn them out.
What do you think about all the pressure being put on your supporters to back Hillary if she gets the nomination over you?
That strategy is more transparent than the shower curtain in the one bathroom we had in our tiny apartment growing up in Brooklyn.
Look, let's be clear.
You don't bring up those types of scenarios in the middle of a primary campaign if not for one specific reason.
To take the wind out of my sails to undermine my message as an alternative to Hillary's based on her presumptive heir model of reality.
To say to my followers, okay, once you children have had your fun, come back to the grown-up table and sit down and be respectful and do what Nanny McPhee here tells you to do.
Wow.
I thought you were going to keep things non-negative.
In my campaign, sure.
But this is a Jimmy Dore call.
I'll say what I want.
You think a Nanny McPhee reference is bad?
What she really looks like is a woman whose hobby is sneaking into grade school bathrooms and telling little boys that penises are shameful.
If you want to get honest about it.
Bernie.
Jimmy, don't you dare act for one second like you can't see what I'm talking about.
Okay, Senator, but to play devil's advocate for a minute, many of your supporters do describe themselves as Bernie or Bust.
That is to say, if you don't get the nomination, they won't vote at all.
Or worse, they will vote for Trump out of spite.
Yes, sure, of course.
In the fever pitch of a campaign that has some momentum behind it, there is going to be some absolutism.
It's only natural.
But anyone with any political intelligence realizes after the dust settles, these people will rethink that when faced with the reality of a Clinton versus Trump choice.
These Bernie or bust people are just saying something to sound tough.
Hillary Clinton should be able to relate to that better than anyone.
So the Hillary camp is simply doing this to delegitimize you, in your opinion.
Unequivocally.
Absolutely.
And it's not going to work because people will see through it and it will backfire and have the opposite of the intended effect.
This chilly wasp ice queen is used to having her devotees offer her hypnosis and do her evil bidding.
She's too tense to realize that's not going to work on others.
And let's be positive.
I'd like to think that in a few months, it will be Hillary's supporters.
This army of Chicos and Lane Bryant catalog print models that she has that will have to make a decision of Bernie versus Trump.
Well, I hope so too.
And I have to say, Bernie, I'm pleased that you're saving all your secret Hillary Burns for our show.
My pleasure.
It's something that needs to come out of me occasionally.
If it doesn't and it builds up, my prostate will suffer.
Not that Hillary Clinton would know anything about that.
If you excuse me, I need to go figure out how to defeat Hillary in a campaign once and for all.
So I'm going to the library to check out Grimm's fairy tales and look for some tips.
Feel the sick burn!
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Hi, everybody.
Welcome to this week's show.
I am joined in the studio from the miserable liberal.
It's our resident Latina, Steph Zemerano.
Hi, Steph.
How are you?
I'm still here.
Yay.
Also with us, resident Japanese man.
It's Robert Yasamura.
Hey, Robert.
Also here, hilarious comedian Hank Thompson.
Hey, Hank.
Hey, Jimmy, I'm a progressive who gets dim sum.
Bam.
Let's get to some jokes before we get to the jokes, shall we?
Hey, voter suppress.
Guess what?
In Mississippi, they passed some anti-LGBT LMOP laws right against them.
And guess what?
The anti-LGBT laws in Mississippi protects the rights of Christians who don't want any of that love thy neighbor stuff ruining their religion.
Love thy straight neighbor.
Love thy straight neighbor.
Update the Bible.
Hey, by the way, a lot of voter ID laws happening all over the place.
You know, it's bad when governments suppress the vote of the people.
But, you know, most of the cable news shows suppress the voter information of the people, which is just as bad.
Nobody says stuff about that.
If you're upset by how hard it is to get a voter ID, don't worry.
You can express your frustration by getting a gun without any hassle whatsoever.
Come on, New York.
Trump needs a big victory.
MSNBC and CNN are counting on you to keep their racist cash cow alive.
Come on.
Hey, I don't know if you saw that lady yelling at Rick Scott.
Oh, yeah.
Rick Scott, the governor of Florida, the lady yelled at him about him turning down Medicaid to help poor people get health care.
Yelling at him right in the Starbucks.
And if you think that lady in Starbucks yelling at Rick Scott was bad, you should have seen me at Dunkin'Donuts screaming at Chris Christie.
Good job.
My nuts pick up it.
Hey, what's coming up on today's show?
We're going to debunk some of that stuff that the New York Daily News was saying about Bernie Sanders and the rest of the news, by the way, saying he doesn't understand how to break up the banks and all that stuff.
We're going to break it down for you.
Plus, we're going to have that lady yelling at Rick Scott.
Plus, Bill Clinton yells at some Black Lives Matter people, plus a lot, lot more.
We got phone calls today from Barack Obama, plus a lot, lot more.
That's today on the Jimmy Door show.
And special bonus today, I'm giving away free tickets.
I'm telling jokes next Friday and Saturday at the Flappers Comedy Club in Claremont, California.
Are you out by Claremont, California?
I'll be there next Friday and Saturday telling jokes.
I'm going to give away some free tickets to see those shows right at the bottom of the hour.
So stay tuned.
So Bernie Sanders getting a lot of grief because he did an interview with the New York Daily News and they asked him a lot of questions about bank reform and they said he didn't know what he was talking about.
So everybody keeps reporting that story, except he did know what he was talking about.
You've heard the story that he doesn't know what he's talking about.
We've all heard that story front page of the New York Day.
We all know this, right?
It's being repeated over and over in the media.
What's not being repeated is that that stupid story from the New York Times, New York Daily News, has been debunked.
In fact, here's from the Huffington Post.
In the Huffington folks, it says in several instances, it's the daily news editors who are bungling the facts in an interview designed to show that Sanders doesn't understand the fine points of policy.
In questions about breaking up big banks, the powers of the Treasury Department and drone strikes, the editors were simply wrong on the details.
There's more.
As the interview went on, though, it began to appear that the Daily News editors didn't understand the difference between the Treasury Department and the Federal Reserve.
Following the transcript, so they show how...
The Daily News, switching to the, this is from them directly.
They said to Bernie Sanders, switching to the financial sector to Wall Street.
Speaking broadly, you said that within the first 100 days of your administration, you'd be drawing up, your Treasury Department would be drawing up a too big to fail list.
Would you expect that that's essentially the list that already exists under Dodd-Frank under the Financial Stability Oversight Act?
That's their question.
Here's what the New York Times says about that question.
The Daily News may be referring here to the contents of Mr. Sanders' bill.
Bernie Sanders introduced legislation last year that would effectively break up the banks.
So this is what they're talking about.
The legislation says that in no more than 90 days, the Financial Stability Oversight Council, a high-level regulator set up by Dodd-Frank DAC of 2010.
So inside Dodd-Frank, it sets up the Financial Stability Oversight Council, and they would have to draw up a list of firms that appear too big to fail.
And then steps would be taken to break them up.
So under Dodd-Frank, there's already this stuff, the Financial Stability Oversight Council, and Sanders' legislation would have given that board 90 days to come up with a list of banks that are too big to fail, and then They would take steps to break them up.
Here's one more thing from the New York Times.
In the interview, the Daily News editorial board, Mr. Sanders does appear to get tangled up in some details and lacks clarity.
Breaking up the banks would involve arcane and complex regulatory moves that can trip up any banking policy wonk that can trip up any banking policy wonk, let alone a presidential candidate.
But taken as a whole, Mr. Sanders' answers seem to make sense.
Crucially, his answers mostly track with a reasonably straightforward breakup plan that he introduced to Congress last year.
So that's from the Huffington Post debunking it.
We also have the New York Times debunking it, saying Sanders exactly knows what he's talking about.
In fact, he introduced legislation to take care of this stuff, but that's not the story that's being repeated in the news.
The story that's being repeated in the news is the other one.
Here's CNN.
Carol Costello is interviewing a Sanders supporter, and she says all this garbage at the top of her interview.
So Sanders may have the momentum, but he may have more to worry about, you know, when Clinton goes on the attack.
And I'm talking about this Daily News article.
First of all, it starts out with that BS meme of, oh, you know, Sanders hasn't faced an attack yet.
Except every news outlet in the country for a year has been saying how this guy can't get elected.
He's horrible and he's a socialist.
Accept that.
Except every news media outlet in the country.
Anyway, momentum, anytime you hear a journalist say momentum, it's bull momentum has been statistically disproven.
Oh, really?
It's just something that journalists will say, and it's a tip-off that they're just interested in creating a story and creating drama.
So momentum is just one of those hooks that they say, like, he has some momentum going.
Okay.
That's all.
That being said, Bernie has the momentum.
He does not.
All right, here we got more to say.
It came down hard on Sanders, and this is two weeks before the New York primary.
You see the headline there.
Bernie's Sandy Hook shame.
And that's not all.
In a series of articles, Sanders upset gun control advocates by saying gun manufacturers are not liable for gun deaths.
He told editors he hadn't thought about where to imprison ISIS terrorists if we close Guantanamo Bay.
And he was unable to articulate a plan to dismantle big banks.
And I want to read the exact quote on that one.
Here it is.
So the Daily News asked Sanders, how do you go about breaking up the big banks?
First of all, she just made three accusations about Bernie Sanders.
She's only going to zero in on unless this woman answer back to one of them.
Did you notice that?
She made three accusations about the word, what do you do with Guantanamo Bay prisoners, Sandy Hook gun thing, Guantanamo Bay.
And now she goes to the banks.
She doesn't give this woman a chance to answer those two accusations, just the bank one.
And let's go to the bank one.
Mr. Sanders, how you go about doing it is having legislation passed or giving the authority to the Secretary of the Treasury to determine under Dodd-Frank that these banks are dangerous to the economy over the problem of Tubing to Fail.
The Daily News followed that answer up by asking this, do you think that the Fed has the authority to break up the big banks?
Sanders said, well, I don't know if the Fed has that authority.
No, Mikki, shouldn't Sanders know that?
You have to finish what he said.
She doesn't finish what he said.
So she's setting him up.
So she's creating drama.
So she's not a good journalist.
Right.
And by the way, again, it's several steps in process.
That first you have to under the Dodd-Frank.
The Treasury Department runs a stress test.
They come up with a list of banks.
You have to have legislation to do this because this hasn't been done since the whenever, 30s.
So that's why you have to do this, right?
So that's why it's complicated.
Bernie Sanders had to introduce legislation to make this happen.
There isn't legislation enough right now.
No, no, no, no.
This is worse.
Dodd-Frank gives Congress and the Treasury the authority to do this.
Congress has consistently taken that authority out.
What he did was introduce legislation to compel them to do what is laid out in Dodd-Frank.
That's what you're saying.
Yes.
So again, this is all the stuff that we figured out.
And just a couple hours after hearing about this story, Carol Costello has the resources of CNN News.
She doesn't know any of this stuff.
She doesn't understand.
Go ahead, Robert.
By the way, she, I don't know if it played properly, but she mentions that the New York Daily News is a tabloid.
She says, I'm quoting from a tabloid, therefore you should respond.
It just, it drives me crazy when you say, like, I know that the New York Daily News is not good journalism.
I'm going to use it as ammunition in a report.
That's like saying, like, I actually know my shoeshine boy is a liar, but he gave me a hot tip and I'm going to repeat it.
I'm going to repeat it on my news show.
And she started by acknowledging that it was a Clinton attack.
That's what she said.
That's what she started.
If you play the, from the very beginning, Bernie hasn't faced a Clinton attack.
I'm referring to the New York Daily News piece.
Here's an attack.
Let's repeat everything in it.
And let's repeat every attack.
Exactly.
But we got to get to this because there's a lot more to it.
So here's the Bernie Sanders supporter, she has a great comeback.
Listen to what she has to say.
Well, actually, you know, there's great fact-checking done on this in the New York Times, which I hold as a higher standard of a paper.
I don't know about the rest of you guys in New York.
I think most New Yorkers hold the New York Times a little bit higher than the Daily News and the New York Post.
So she's sticking it to Carol Costello.
I don't know if you know, New Yorkers don't really think the New York Daily News is that good of a news.
We look more at the New York Times.
So just so you know, that's you're, again, you're quoting a rag.
You're not really quoting the respected newspaper in New York.
So that's what you're doing, Carol Costello.
And she just let her know that.
We fact-checked this, and they basically said that he was right on this.
You know, the point of, you read the entire transcript, which is very long.
It took about 45 minutes to read.
He went into detail about how the determination of how to break up the big banks lies within Congress or the president.
And the president gives authority to the Fed.
Now, these are very arcane rules.
This hasn't happened in many, many years.
And it goes into detail about how we would have to come up with a better way of doing so.
The problem is, is we take, as we do in the media, take little bits out of context and don't show up the full picture.
And to be clear, to be even more fair, Bernie Sanders is the only senator who brought this up in Watwards.
I know, but it's a much larger quote.
He went into more detail at other points in the transcripts.
Yeah, but you didn't quote the rest of his answer, which goes on to explain it.
Smug look on her face.
Yes, there's more to this.
And you know what?
The Daily News didn't talk about that, but the New York Times did.
So I encourage everybody to go to the New York Times and read that article, and it'll go more into detail about not just his record, but what he was trying to say there.
And he was being very fair.
Unlike a lot of politicians, who go in and buy.
Okay, so that's a great answer.
She laid it out to you.
She told you ahead with the president and he gave legislation last year that would deal with this stuff.
The president has to give authority to the Fed.
It's complicated.
Even like the New York Times said, even policy wonks get cut up on this stuff.
So it's complicated, but you'll figure it out how to do it.
You have the policy.
So she lays it out to her, explains to her that the thing you're quoting is not a respected newspaper.
It's already been debunked by the good newspaper in New York, yet you're still repeating it, Carol.
You're still repeating it here.
She just told you it's already been debunked.
And then here's what Carol Costello's response to that is.
Well, I will say that there's something about offering a simpler explanation.
Like, just give me your plan of how you're going to do it.
He just gave you your plan, you knucklehead.
She just told you what the plan was.
And she's like, hey, I'm a news person.
Can you dumb it down?
Can I have more of a Trump answer?
Can you give me a Trump answer to this, Philly?
Because you're talking policy.
And I'm only a news person that hosts a news show.
And I only have the resources of CNN.
I could get anybody in there to explain this to me that I want, but I'm not going to.
So I'm going to stay uninformed and keep misinforming our viewers because I'm lazy and I'm a corporate journalist and I don't really do my job.
I'm repeating already debunked stuff from the New York Daily News right now.
Right now I'm doing that.
This goes on.
There's more to say.
Blah, blah, blah.
So that's a news.
Listen to what just happened.
Don't tell me information and information and facts.
That's a news person who just dismissed serious policy discussion as blah, blah, blah.
Oh, yeah, sure.
He can explain blah.
So she's saying he doesn't understand what's going on.
Then this woman says, no, he explains it.
In fact, he has legislation.
And she goes, blah, blah, blah.
So you can't have it both ways.
You can't say Bernie doesn't know what he's talking about.
And then when he explain he does, she goes, ah, that's too complex.
Now I'm a dummy.
That's literally what's happening right here on CNN.
And remember, one of the N stands for news.
The other end stands for not.
That encapsulates everything that is wrong with American news right there.
That moment, that woman is supposedly a journalist.
Supposedly.
And she said, look, you're not giving me the sound bite I want.
You're not giving me the entertainment factor I want.
You're trying to explain the nuances and complexities of policymaking to the American public, and I won't have it.
Yeah, that's exactly right, Robert.
You are exactly.
That is, that is, that is laughable.
I mean, but that happens every day.
She's just told, she's just told you're repeating already debunked information, and she comes back with blah, blah, blah.
Yeah, this lady's pushing back against the propaganda she's spewing, and it's causing her brain to malfunction.
Yes.
This is the first time in a long time I'm going to put her lower on my list than Don Lemon.
That's how bad that is.
That's how bad that, oh, because she's been told in real time, what you're doing is forwarding already debunked BS.
And she keeps, she doesn't go, oh, really?
Let's take a break and let me come back.
I have to check this out.
This has been debunked already.
Let's take a break.
And let me get my producer on the line who let me come on air with this BS information and someone's getting fired.
That didn't happen.
She just blah, blah, blah, blah.
So let's watch.
Go back to the Sanders supporter.
Watch how she takes care of her.
She keeps going.
It's not an easy process.
And that's what the New York Times is trying to explain.
That as much as we want it to be an easy process, it does have to go through the Fed.
It does have to be passed through Congress.
And these are an arcane, very complex set of laws that have to go through.
And every economist says so, and that's what the New York Times pulled.
They said every economist says the same thing.
So as much as we want to simplify it, economics is really tough.
And Bernie Sanders acknowledges that.
And guess what?
Hillary Clinton isn't talking about that.
She continues to go and accept money from high-dollar donors, do fundraisers like she did just last night, you know, at $30,000 a plate.
And she's not talking about breaking up the big banks because that's what voters want.
They want to make sure that they can survive.
You know, she's out there campaigning with President, with Governor Cuomo, trying to take credit for the $15 minimum wage.
Well, she's for the $12 minimum wage.
She's not for the $15 minimum wage.
She's not for Democratic values.
She doesn't want universal health care.
That's what Democrats want.
So, you know, she also insulted him, said he's not a Democrat.
But when you look at the business, so that woman just said a lot of stuff.
She's not for what Democrats are for.
Bernie's actually for what Democrats are for.
The Democrats are for breaking up the banks.
The Democrats are for universal health care.
The Democrats are for a $15 minimum wage.
Hillary's not for any of this stuff.
And she, so this one.
It's not just Democrats.
It's a lot of Republicans.
A lot of Republicans too.
So she's bringing the truth to Carol Costell.
Carol Costello, just her ability to ignore the truth on her own news show, I'm going to say unparalleled because here's how she, here's her next thing that she says.
Here's what Carolina.
Let's talk about that for a second because that was my next question because she has gotten the attack.
She says she doesn't really know what Bernie Sanders is.
She says he may not be a real Democrat.
So in your mind, is Bernie Sanders a real Democrat or is he a socialist or is he a Democratic socialist?
Is he an independent socialist?
What is he?
So here we are in April.
Bernie Sanders has already won half the primaries.
Carol Costello is still unclear of what a socialist is or a Democratic socialist or an independent.
She's still not sure what she's still she's running the same newscast they ran in July of last year.
It wasn't a good newscast then.
She doesn't know anything.
She hasn't learned a goddamn thing in 12 months.
Carol Costello doesn't know anything about what Bernie Sanders' platform is.
She doesn't know what a socialist is.
She doesn't know what a Democratic socialist is.
She doesn't know what an independent is.
And she doesn't know which one Bernie Sanders is, even though Bernie Sanders says over and over and over what he is.
She's still, I don't know, what is he?
Carol Costello, what is it?
What is it with our news people like Chuck Todd and Carol Costello?
It's like they're covering politics in another country, and then they drop him in here to do a TV show about our country, and they don't know what the f is going on.
They have no idea.
They're not politics for dummies.
That's what they're doing.
They are trying to get it down to the most reductive, simple things that they think anybody can understand.
And in the case of Carol Costello, it's her who doesn't understand.
I will even say Chuck Todd kind of knows what the hell he's talking about.
He's just dumbing it down because his producers told him to.
I think she just doesn't know what the f she's doing.
She doesn't know what she's doing.
She's that woman belongs in a Pepsi ad.
She doesn't belong reading the news.
I agree, even though she has glasses.
And she keeps like giving that smug, pouty look.
Of course.
Well, she's condescending to the Bernie Sanders.
She's, okay, but okay.
Blah, blah, blah.
She said it.
And she's not humiliated that she just went blah, blah, blah.
So the person you're interviewing is more informed than you are, the news host.
She's able to articulate it better than you are, the news host.
And your response is blah, blah, blah.
All right.
But he's not, what is he, a socialist or something?
I don't get.
Who did, did we just, did we just hire a high school dropout to come host the CNN news?
Yep, close.
I think a dropout would do better.
They'd be more curious about what's going on.
So I don't know if I'm supposed to say this, but you know I have some contacts on the inside of the Bernie Sanders campaign.
And I heard that, I have it on good authority, that right before he went on this big tear, seven out of eight, and he got Nevada to flip in his favor, that he started using the Amazon.com link over at JimmyDoorComedy.com.
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I'm just saying that a lot of times I keep getting these reports of stuff like this happening: of these, these people start using the Jimmy Doorcomedy.com Amazon.com link when they buy stuff at Amazon.
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Thank you.
Jimmy Door, Barry Obama.
What's up, my brother?
Shit's getting real all up in here.
Big Papa says what he wants.
They want to ask me about Trump and Cruz on foreign policy.
Guess what?
I says what I want.
Those guys have foreign policy ideas.
Some asshole might shout in a dive bar.
Let me tell you, man, foreign policy is some real shit that you've got to think through.
Trump wants to stop money going back to Mexico so he can build a wall.
Great.
Let's have one of our two neighboring nations pissed off at us.
This is Mexico, man.
Hot-blooded Latins with nothing left to lose.
And he don't fuck with their mothers, man.
You stop Pedro from sending his mother a few bucks a month.
There's no telling what Pedro's going to do.
Your role don't mean shit if 12 million Mexicans already here.
Go on Viet Cong on your ass.
So this jackhole is like, oh, let North Korea start a nuclear war.
I don't care.
You crack her fucking head, case.
This isn't your idiot, sons, fighting out for your affection.
This is nuclear fucking war.
The congregate people's faces melt, man.
And I say that shit, man.
I mean, I college it up, but I said those guys don't know shit about dick.
Quote me.
Oh, and by the way, a bunch of bomb villains type motherfuckers are hiding money in offshore accounts.
In other news, Elvis is still dead.
The only thing that's surprising about that is why Americans would do that when we got perfectly good tax havens right here.
I mean, I could call up Delaware right now and say, hey, I want a shell company called Cocaine Laundromat LLC.
And the only problem would be that the name is already taken.
Rich black folks run this country, man, and they ain't never going to make it hard to hide money.
Shit, man, I could pay half our national debt tomorrow if I invaded the Cayman Islands.
Because white people like to hide money.
Full stop.
Look, Jimmy, I got to go do some serious presidential shit.
These people ain't going to drone strike themselves.
Am I right?
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Carol Costello was interviewing a Bernie Sanders supporter, and she was repeating debunked already ideas from the New York Daily News that said Bernie Sanders didn't know what he was talking about when it came to Wall Street and breaking up the banks and a bunch of other things.
And it turns out that the Bernie Sanders supporter is schooling the CNN host.
And so let's pick up some more of that where she's schooling the CNN host for repeating already debunked talking points in the New York Daily News.
Well, he's been very open about being a Democratic socialist.
And when you pull Democrats, they don't care if he's a socialist, a Democratic socialist, or a Democrat.
But if you want to get really specific here, he is a very valuable member of the Senate.
And Democrats wouldn't win a lot of votes if it weren't for Bernie Sanders.
So much so that Senator Chuck Schumer of New York has gone out and campaigned for Bernie Sanders.
So much so that Bernie Sanders has gone out and campaigned for Democrats.
And when we look at the issues that Democrats care about, the rhetoric matches his record.
Hillary Clinton's rhetoric is not matching her record.
Democrats want universal health care.
They want quality and cheap, affordable college.
They don't want Democrats to instinctively go to war.
Those are things that Hillary Clinton does.
When we look at the record, Hillary Clinton falls more and lines with Republicans, including on abortion issues, which she is not completely, you know, she has exceptions to, which leaves the states open to interpretation, which is where Republicans are winning.
Her rhetoric is not matching a Democrat's record.
So she just pointed out Tillary, who's really not the Democrat here.
Bernie Sanders' policies actually line up with the Democrats and the Democratic voters much more than Hillary Clinton's policies.
I'm sure Carol Costello is going to acknowledge that point.
I have to leave it there.
I guess, I guess.
All right.
Evidently, you're just going to say your nonsense.
I guess you're just going to have facts and accurate information.
Don't you understand?
This is CNN.
We're owned by Ty Warner, the seventh largest contributor to the Hillary Clinton campaign.
Do you really think any of that garbage that you just said is going to get any kind of respect over here?
No.
Blah, blah, blah.
I'm Carol Costello.
Blah, blah, blah.
And at no point does she acknowledge, like, you know, like eight years ago, the world sank.
Yes.
Like, talking about this stuff is still germane.
Yes.
Blah, blah, blah.
Blah, blah, blah.
you So Bill Clinton got in trouble today because he was yelling at some Black Lives Matters protesters and he said the wrong thing.
Let's remember what this is all about.
Bill Clinton, no friend of the working man.
He got in bed with Wall Street.
But what also they did was there was a crime bill that he signed and pushed for.
That was when Bill Clinton was trying to get to the right of the Democrats on crime and stuff.
And so they put together that there was this crime bill that had the three strikes that everyone says is horrible.
And so they put in a lot of nonviolent prisoners, people, criminals, into prison because of that crime bill.
That crime bill also had a lot of money for prisons in it.
It was a bad thing, that crime bill is like, In fact, Bill Clinton has apologized for it, and so is Hillary Clinton.
Apologized for the crime bill.
Plus, the welfare bill that they passed also decimated welfare for poor people, right?
So what they did was they took welfare, which was the federal government's responsibility to take care of people.
And instead of like making sure they got their money, they did what they call block grants.
So they took all the money the federal government was going to give to people on welfare and they put it all in one chunk and they gave it to each state.
And then the state could do with it whatever they want.
Well, a lot of Republican states don't want to help poor people.
So they got screwed over.
So the poor people got screwed over.
The welfare reform ended the federal government's responsibility to poor people as we knew it.
It hurt a lot of poor people, as did the crime bill.
So just now people are starting to talk about how bad this stuff has been because of this election.
So let's remember what Hillary Clinton said about that crime bill and what she said about young black people.
Not just gangs of kids anymore.
They are often the kinds of kids that are called super predators.
No conscience, no empathy.
We can talk about why they ended up that way, but first we have to bring them to heal.
Ooh, first we have to bring them to heal.
So she's talking about black kids, inner city black kids, that they're super predators.
We got to be extra scared of teenage black kids because they're super predators.
And we need to treat them like dogs who need training.
Who need training?
Bring them to heal.
Yeah, it was not good.
She's really showing her, you know, girl for Goldwater thing.
Right?
I mean, I'm not kidding.
I mean, that's what the rub against Hillary Clinton has always been she's more of a Republican than a Democrat.
And here it is.
Now, is it fair to hold this against her, given that it was so long in the past?
Yes.
I agree.
Especially when she was, it wasn't like she was working as a law clerk.
She was the first lady.
Like if I was dating somebody and I found a video of her saying this kind of stuff 20 years ago.
She was the first lady.
She's a family breakup.
Yeah.
She's a first lady.
Yeah.
She's the first lady and she's defending a policy by her husband, this crime bill, who was president.
If you can't hold them accountable for what they said, you can't hold anybody accountable.
So that, but they've gone on to apologize for this.
So that's good.
So here is Bill Clinton in Philadelphia today, and some Black Lives Matter people showed up, and they were upset with him.
Let's do another one.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Wait, wait.
I don't want to deal with them all.
I can't, I don't know what the chant is.
Can you hear what the chant is?
I can't understand what no.
It's something.
Go ahead.
It sounds like he's responding to something with the chant, right?
I don't know.
That's what I'm asking.
I can't hear what the chant is.
Save our streets or maybe that's what.
So maybe the Hillary people are trying to out-chant the black life.
That's what that sounds like.
They're either chanting Hill La Reed.
That's what it does sound like.
And so Bill Clinton goes on.
Here we go.
But you can see some of the signs, right?
The Clinton crime bill destroyed our cities.
So you get it, right?
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Wait.
I understand this is what's the matter.
I don't know how you would characterize the gang leaders who got 13-year-old kids hopped up on crack and sent them out onto the street to murder other African-American children.
Maybe you thought they were good citizens.
She didn't.
So the Black Lives Matter people, this is amazing what just happened.
So the Black Lives Matter people are there protesting because a lot of black people ended up in prison.
Nonviolent drug offenders ended up in prison because of his stupid crime bill.
And they're starting finally to get organized and pushed back against all this crazy stuff.
And that hurts families for generations.
For generations.
Yes, of course it does.
For generations.
Of course.
How could it not?
Can you imagine if your dad was in prison, you had to grow up without a dad?
Of course that devastates your whole family structure.
And so what he just did, those Black Lives Matter, there are protesting that the people that got caught up in that 94 drug bill shouldn't be in prison.
And what Bill Clinton just did was, you know, those people that Black Lives Matter are defending and sticking up for right now?
They're murderers.
That's what he just said.
He just said they're all gang.
They're going to crack dealers and they're going to shoot little kids.
And the Black Lives Matter is like, he's just confirming that he doesn't understand what they're saying.
He's just confirming.
He's defending.
That's right.
We put those punks in jail.
Instead of going, instead of what he said a year ago, which was it was a mistake.
He should have kept saying that.
Why didn't he keep saying that?
That was a mistake.
You're right.
We're working with you.
Instead, he didn't know.
They just know how to do this.
That's what Hillary Clinton did to the environmentalist.
That's what he did.
I did not have sexual relations with that.
Whenever they get like that, you know they're extra lying.
Whenever they get like that.
When she yelled about the fossil fuel.
The fossil fuel and the environmental, when that environmentalist woman got in her face and she went over and wagged her finger.
By the way, this is something they've already apologized for.
He can't seem to be consistent with it when real people actually are allowed to get in his face.
So this is what happens when real people interrupt a guy like Bill Clinton, who's been a privilege for, I don't know, 25 years or whatever.
He's got Secret Service.
All of a sudden, he's given a speech and people are protesting and he says the wrong thing.
He says, damn right, we put your black friends in jail, those people you're advocating for, because they're murderers and they're drug addicts and they're selling crack to little kids and I'm glad we put them in jail.
And I do it again.
That's what he's saying.
Wrong thing to say that Black Lives Matter.
Thank God he said it, though, huh?
Couldn't hurt.
It's like him and Trump are in cahoots to get rid of Hillary.
It's unbelievable.
That's a bad thing that he just did.
There's more to this, though.
You are defending the people who kill the lives of Usain Manor.
You are defending.
He's saying you're defending the people who kill the lives you say matter.
He's saying we only locked up black people who were killing other black people when we know that's not what happened.
They put a lot of nonviolent people in jail.
We already know that the way the drug laws are enforced in the United States are completely biased and racist, right?
We all know that they arrest and prosecute black people at a much higher rate than white people who use drugs at the same rate.
But they get prosecuted and arrested at a much higher rate.
So we know that.
So what Bill Clinton, that's what they're saying to Bill Clinton, and they're holding his feet to the fire for doing the crime bill and the welfare reform.
And he doesn't know how to say, yeah, I already apologized for this.
He doesn't say that.
He says, ah, yeah, you're defending murder.
This is what he's saying to Black Lives Matter.
And you think Bernie, and somehow, but Bernie Sanders is the guy who has a problem with minorities.
Bernie Sanders, he's got a little bit more to say.
He said something else.
Let's hear it.
Now let's talk about doing the welfare reform would characterize the gang leaders who got 13-year-old kids hopped up on crap and sent them out under the street to murder other African-American children.
Maybe you thought they were good citizens.
She did that.
She did.
Oh, so he just said it again.
I just played it twice.
I just played it twice.
It's worth repeating.
It's worth repeating.
You know, I think the prison industrial complex and the Clintons both agree Black Lives Matter.
Do you get the joke I just did?
So there's Bill Clinton really stepping in it.
Maybe there's a lobotomized death row inmate that Bill could fry to get this out of his, because they did that.
Remember when they did that?
Yeah.
I'd be curious to find out how much campaign donations or speech speaking fees he and his wife have received from the prison industrial complex.
How much money has the private prison industry given the Clinton?
She said that they don't take money from private apprentice industry, but then it's been revealed that her super PAC does.
Oh, well, those are totally separate entities.
Yes.
The Clintons are against gangs of drug dealers unless they're pharmaceutical companies holding people's health for ransom.
Right?
Hillary, and by the way, Hillary knows all about super predators.
She married one.
Maybe, yeah.
The Clintons threw generations of young people in jail, propping up private incarceration industry, destroying lives for smoking a plant.
And yet some Democrats are still voting for her.
Go figure.
The Clintons welfare bill and the crime bill.
Make them poor, then throw them in jail.
To the Clintons, enjoy your millions of corrupt money.
The country is moving on without you.
So Bernie Sanders has said this about Scandinavia.
I think we should look to countries like Denmark, like Sweden, and Norway and learn from what they have accomplished for their working people.
And the United States.
Wow.
So he says that we should.
Sounds crazy.
Learn from people that are doing it right?
Hmm.
We can look around the world and see how people are doing things.
Maybe we copy that.
Maybe we copy a good idea.
I don't know about that.
So here, CNN, CNN, one of those ends stands for news.
CNN actually sent a reporter to Denmark to check it out.
And this is what he found out.
McDonald's is used in the debate over minimum wage.
In Denmark, there is no minimum wage.
But because of union negotiations, people who work at McDonald's here make almost $20 an hour.
And even though things are very costly in Denmark, this Big Mac costs less than in the United States.
And it's going to cost them his life.
And it's going to cost him.
So isn't that interesting?
They make $20 an hour at McDonald's.
You mean they didn't hire machines to do it when it hit $15 an hour?
I wonder why they didn't do that.
It sounds like the workers are empowered to advocate for their needs.
He said they have unions, and that's why they make $20 an hour at McDonald's.
So by the way, their $20 an hour wage at McDonald's, that is not mandated by the government through a minimum wage.
That is negotiated by strong unions, just as Hank said, strong unions.
So you don't have to do that.
When the economy serves everybody, when everybody gets to participate in the profits, it means that the people who sweep the floors should be paid an amount of money that they can use to live off of.
It's not a complicated or a radical idea at all.
Well, it means that if you're making a profit, maybe you share some of that profit with the people who actually generate that profit for you, right?
So that's what that, and it turns out everybody can make money.
Somebody can make a living wage selling hamburgers, working at a restaurant, and the person who owns the restaurant also makes money.
Right now in America, we have the people who own the restaurants making lots of money, and the people who work there are poverty wage.
That's what we have in America.
Poverty wages at one of the richest companies.
They make billions of dollars fast food.
They make billions.
So those employees at McDonald's generating billions of dollars in profit for those fast food joints, they get slave wages.
They often rely on government programs to subsidize their needs, like health care, like Medicaid, Walmart workers, for instance, get a lot of food stamps, stuff like that.
So they're getting subsidized.
All these billionaires that run the big companies that pay minimum wages to people, they benefit greatly from that.
Compared to the nation's purchasing power.
Go figure.
We have a society where the individual is perhaps freer in all of any other society because the government is securing the social contract so comprehensively.
If you want to save the American dream for real, go to Denmark.
Wow.
You know, wow.
Wow, you know, when the government isn't blowing all of its money blowing things up, it can offer high-quality services that save its citizens a lot of money, time, and trouble.
But that's not what we do here in America.
We spend most of our money blowing stuff up.
That's what I mean.
They don't spend most of their money on On defense?
Yeah, on bases throughout the Thousand?
A thousand military installations.
That's what the United States have.
We have more than 1,000.
They don't know how many because they don't count them because a lot of them are secret.
So we have a guess that we have 1,000 military installations around the world.
1,000.
Is that expensive?
Do you think maybe we could have health care in America if we didn't do that?
Maybe.
So they did a PBS, Judy Woodruff.
Woodruff, whoop, whoop.
She did that.
They talked about Denmark.
Here's what Judy Woodwolf had to say about Denmark.
And with apologies to Disneyland, Denmark is now officially the happiest place on earth.
The United Nations says so in a new survey of countries based on health data, job security rates, and other social and political factors.
The United States ranked 13th.
Burundi came in last.
So, you know, right-wingers always scoff about Scandinavian countries being socialists, but really they're free market capitalist economies with healthy social programs that benefit people.
That's all they are.
They're still free market, healthy capitalist economies.
They just also take some of the money in the economy and they use it to help their workers, their citizens.
It's a nice mixture.
It's very strange.
It's hard to wrap your mind around the idea that the entire economy is made to serve the entire population.
And their economy is doing well because it's easier in Nordic countries for small business startups because companies are freed from the burden of supplying employees the things American companies are cutting back on, like pensions, benefits, and health Coverage.
See, in America, companies have to do all that stuff.
Over in Denmark, the government takes care of that stuff for you.
Yeah, that's one of the strangest things about the Medicare debate or healthcare debate is that the companies aren't stronger advocates for unshackling themselves from the burden of providing health care and being in this insurance industry.
It's so insane.
It's so clearly beneficial to everybody.
I think that America, I think that Hillary is right, though, is that we need to stop this kind of crazy stuff that Sanders is proposing before anyone's life gets improved.
Yeah, people might live longer.
We might get taller.
We might be healthier.
It's dangerous.
Wanting to live in a happy nation, it isn't socialist.
It's selfish.
That's what I should say.
I'll say.
Yes.
So let's.
Who is for this, by the way?
And who is against?
Who's against this?
What is Hillary Clinton saying?
I think what Sarah Sanders is saying certainly makes sense in the terms of the inequality that we have.
But we are not Denmark.
I love Denmark.
We're the United States of America, and it's our job to rein in the excesses of capitalism so that it doesn't run amok and doesn't cause the kind of inequities that we're seeing in our economic system.
But we would be making a grave mistake to turn our backs on what built the greatest middle class in the history of America.
Yeah, so in response to Bernie Sanders' Scandinavian proposals, Hillary Clinton said, we're not Denmark.
And then she goes on to talk about how great American entrepreneurship is and how that would go, that would go a long way, Hillary.
That really would.
You talk about how great American entrepreneurship is.
If people weren't terrified of going bankrupt when they got sick.
You know, Bernie Sanders, his politics have been called Scandinavian, but Chris Christie's have been called Danish.
So I don't know if you know what happened in Florida.
What happened in Florida was they passed Obamacare.
Rick Scott is a corrupt ex-felon dick who's in charge of Florida because Florida, let's remember that there's a brain drain and only and they voted in Rick Scott.
Okay.
There's a lot of good people that are stuck in Florida.
Don't get me wrong.
But they did elect Rick Scott, who is, you know, he's a criminal and he's a horrible person.
And what's worse is he denied the Medicaid funds from Obamacare.
So the federal government was going to give Florida a bunch of free money to give health care to poor people.
Rick Scott said, no, thanks.
Our poor people don't need health care.
So he was in a Starbuck, which is like, I don't know, unconscionable.
So, but apparently our news media, that's just okay.
That's just another side of the political coin.
Our news media doesn't think that he's a horrible person and that he should be shamed for it, denying health care to poor people.
And plus, Rick Scott did a lot of other things, like started drug testing, welfare recipients, stuff like that, right?
He banned all mention of global warming.
Yes, that's right.
The Florida Congress.
That's right.
Count even mention.
So there's a lot of regressive, unbelievable stuff that Rick Scott's doing.
He was in a Starbucks, and a lady who was denied health care because of him turning down Obamacare gave him an airful.
You ready to?
Here we go.
We're going to play a little bit for you, Rick.
You cut Medicaid so I couldn't get healthcare.
You're an asshole.
You don't care about working people.
I'm not talking to you.
You don't care about working people.
You should be ashamed to show your face around.
We got a million jobs.
A million jobs.
Great.
Who here has a great job or is looking forward to finishing school?
You really feel like you have a job coming up.
You stripped women of access to public health care.
Shame on you, Rick Scott.
We depend on those services.
Rich people like you don't know what to do.
When pure people like us need health services, you cut them.
Shame on you, Rick Scott.
You're an effective.
So that was fantastic.
And the only thing that I could say is it was said that no one else jumped up and joined in, that no one else jumped up and joined into that woman, yelling down that out-of-touch asshole, which is exactly what he is.
Denying health care to the poorest people, the poorest people in the state.
And did you hear what his comeback was?
Hey, we created a million jobs.
You created a million jobs.
You mean since the country was losing a million jobs a month, now things have turned around and you created another million minimum wage jobs, which is exactly what that woman said.
And by the way, she's not talking about crappy jobs that have been created since the big depression, the bank failure.
She's talking about poor people who have jobs not able to get health care.
That's what she's talking about.
So poor people can't get health care.
And it's like, but no, you know what's great?
It took a citizen to do that in a Starbucks.
Let's go through one more time.
By the way, what you're saying is very germane, which is the fact that a lot of those jobs created are too low paying to they don't give any kind of health benefits, but those people find themselves in the awful position between where they qualify for benefits and where they don't.
Yes.
And those are exactly the jobs that he created.
Those are exactly the jobs that he created.
She is my new hero.
She really is.
I want to find this woman.
I got my eyes on her.
Best journalist in America is that woman right there.
Let's run through it.
You cut Medicaid so I couldn't get Medicare.
You're an asshole.
You don't care about working evils.
I'm not talking to you.
So that's so two things happened there.
A, she said to him and framed the argument the way it's supposed to be, you cut Medicare so I can't get it.
For working people, poor people can't get health care.
You're an asshole.
So do you ever think a news person, when they interviewed him, had that kind of ire when they interviewed him about that?
Do you think a news person ever said that to him?
You don't have to call him an a-hole, but it would be nice to hear you go, wow, you're really unconscionable.
How do you sleep with yourself?
I would like to see a new, but they don't.
They all, at the end, they all chuckle and they're all chummy.
They're all friends at the end.
Hey, thanks for coming on, governor.
Hey, what's your, did you, did you fill out your brackets, governor?
Have you filled out watching brackets?
So let's watch a little bit more.
I love how there's a woman who came over to her and tried to shut her down.
She goes, can I talk to you for a moment?
I'm guessing she's from the Starbucks.
No, she's not.
No, no, she's with Scott.
She's with Scott?
Yeah, she's in that entourage.
It's even worse that this woman is trying to discuss.
She comes over and tries to get her to shut up.
And I loved what she said to her.
Let's see if we can play the light.
She comes over.
She says, can I talk to you?
Can I talk to you?
And here's what she says.
I'm not talking to you.
She says, I'm not talking to you.
God bless her.
I'm not talking to you.
Oh, you know, I wish we had more time, but that's all the time we have.
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