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The Jimmy Dore Show!
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Hello, may I speak with Senator Bernie Sanders?
Jimmy, is that you?
Yes, it is.
How you doing, Senator?
I peer out into the crowd in Iowa, and who do I see but Jimmy Dore?
Why didn't you come backstage to my dressing room?
We could have shared a meta muscle.
Yes, I was there.
I was there.
How did you know that was me?
Oh, let me see.
Who else will be wearing a fedora in the middle of Iowa and laughing at inappropriate points in my speech?
Okay.
Well, listen, I was hoping to talk to you about some things like what's happening in Flint, Michigan, where everybody's suffering from lead poisoning.
All I have to say to the people of Michigan is fuck you.
Stop electing Republican governors.
Bernie, whoa, I'm surprised at you.
It's been a long day, and I'm getting punchy.
What about how do you feel about the results of the Iowa caucus?
All I have to say is, seriously, Iowa, four-tenths of 1%.
Iowans couldn't pull it out just a little more for all Bernie.
Yeah, yeah, less than 1% difference between you and Hillary.
I've been campaigning against the 1%, and 1% got its revenge.
You know, if you win New Hampshire, the media will have to cover you.
I remember the first time I was on television.
It was before television was invented.
Listen, Hillary has been saying you're attacking her for not being progressive.
Now, now, I don't stoop the personal attacks.
I try to keep things respectful, but.
But, but.
Holy Moses.
Hillary calls herself a moderate, and I'm a bad person for agreeing with her.
Hillary would never have uttered the word progressive if Bernie Sanders wasn't in the race.
You know, she appears to be worried about your surge of support, and the DNC is pushing for more debates before the primaries.
It should be worrying when a 74-year-old man is considered a fresh new alternative.
Yes.
You know, she's recently started repeating your stances on issues like single payer and college.
She's the Carlos Mancia of presidential candidates.
Nice.
Hillary now claims she'll fight for the causes she said will never happen.
Yes.
One day, she says universal health care is impossible.
Now, she's all for it.
She flip-flops so much, she should be in Cirque de Solet.
You don't think Hillary shares your progressive values on issues?
Hillary is for minimum wage.
In fact, when she was on the board of Walmart, she was for keeping it as minimal as possible.
Right, okay.
I will raise the minimum wage to 15 bucks an hour.
Hillary Clinton says she'll be pragmatic and go for 12 bucks an hour.
And if elected, she'll compromise and settle for five bucks an hour.
But the national minimum wage is already $7 an hour.
Exactly.
Okay.
Listen, some people from the establishment left are endorsing Hillary and dismissing your campaign.
Some surprising people like Paul Krugman, Ezra Klein.
Nobody hates Jews more than the Jews.
Yes, I don't pass their impurity test.
They say I can't get anything done because Democrats can't win a midterm.
As if that's my fault.
Yeah, I know.
Maybe if Democrats stopped being the party of corporate money centrists and follow my lead, they'd have excited voters who don't look as old as me.
They claim she's taking a harder stance on Wall Street now.
Oh, sure.
What she's having done with the son-in-law, she tells him to cut it out.
You mean Chelsea Clinton's husband, who runs a Wall Street hedge fund and is a former Goldman Sachs executive, right?
Well, some Democrats make the argument that you must support Hillary for the Supreme Court.
I think choosing the next Supreme Court nominees will be safe in my hands.
You know, Hillary does now say that voting for the Iraq war was a mistake.
She has learned from my mistakes and can repeat them exactly.
Look at Libya, Egypt, and Syria.
Does she consider those mistakes?
She says Bush fooled her into supporting the Iraq war.
If you can be fooled by the likes of a Bush, what does that make you?
Speaking of someone who's been in politics for years and years and years and years and years.
Uh-huh.
And years, I can say that I have the experience and the judgment to forward a progressive agenda for this great country of ours.
I believe you.
Jimmy, I gotta go.
I'm previewing my latest commercial at this year's Comic-Con.
Feel the burn.
Okay, thank you, Senator Sanders.
I didn't even know there was a Comic-Con.
I don't know.
It's the Jimmy Door Show.
The show for people that are comments, maybe on Tearing Down Our Nation.
It's the show that makes Anderson Cooper say.
It's hard to talk to you, too, guys.
And now, here's a guy who sounds a lot like me.
It's Jimmy Dore.
Everybody, welcome to this week's show.
We got a special show for you.
Okay, so I hope you enjoyed the phone call at the top of the show.
Also, in the second half of the show, we're going to be talking about what I saw when I was in Des Moines.
I went to Des Moines.
I went to Iowa, actually.
I went to a lot of cities in Iowa to check out the caucus and what was happening.
I stopped by the Bernie Sanders headquarters.
I went to the Jeb Bush headquarters.
I went out to Bernie Sanders events.
I went out to Ted Cruz events.
I went to the media center where all the media from all over the world was there to cover in one building and was there to cover the Des Moines caucus.
So I'm going to talk about all that that's coming up in the second half.
We got phone calls today.
George Clooney is going to call in at the beginning of the hour, second half hour.
Also, Ted Cruz and a lot lot more.
That's today on the Jimmy Dore Show.
So I'm here with Mark Van Landuit, and what we're going to do is Jeb Bush was in New Hampshire.
Now, if you watch the video, you saw the video of I went to the Jeb Bush headquarters in Des Moines.
We talk a little bit more about that in the second half.
But If you haven't seen the video, please go to youtube.com slash thejimmy door show.
And there's a video of my trip to the Jeb Bush headquarters in Des Moines.
On one level, it's exactly what you think.
And on the second level, it's fun to watch me go there.
Okay, so please go check that out, youtube.com/slash the Jimmy Dore show.
And you'll see the video of me there talking at the Jeb Bush headquarters.
Also, there's a video of me interviewing Ted Cruz supporters in Jefferson, Iowa.
But right now, Jeb Bush, who, you know, the guy just reeks of insecurity.
I would not be comfortable getting on a plane if the guy who was the pilot acted like him.
Come on, give me a break.
And hey, I don't think we're supposed to be losing altitude this fast.
Oh, come on, give me a break.
It's raining.
And so that's the kind of pilot Jeb Bush would be.
So anyway, so he was in New Hampshire.
And first of all, he's trying to put kids now around him, right?
Young people sitting around, not kids, but younger people.
And they could not look more bored.
I mean, how can you not be bored at a Jeb Bush speech?
I mean, just political speech in general, but gosh darn it.
And so anyway, here's Jeb Bush.
And I don't know if you've heard this or not, but this happened.
He was in New Hampshire.
And he literally has that beg of the crowd to clap.
And then they laugh and then they clap.
And so here it is.
He's trying to make a big declarative statement.
He was, there's just no reason that this guy's running.
You know, that's not my problem.
I think that's my problem with Hillary, too.
There's no reason.
At least Hillary has a little bit of a reason, right?
That she wants to continue the, you know, she doesn't want to let them beat back the Barack Obama achievements, right?
But Jeb Bush is.
They're both protecting their dynasties, the continuation of their political dynasties.
So Jeb Bush is in New Hampshire, and here we go.
So here's my pledge to you.
I will be a commander-in-chief that will have the back of the military.
I won't trash talk.
I won't be a divider-in-chief or an agitator-in-chief.
I won't be out there blowharden, talking a big.
First of all, he says blowharden.
I won't be out there blowharden.
I won't be out there blowharden.
And then he doesn't even have the presence of mind to comment on the fact that he just made up a word.
I won't be out there blowharden, harden.
He's a bush.
Hey, are you out there hardening?
Well, I'm blowhardening.
I'm blowharding.
That's not.
Masters of the English language, those.
You are a blowhard.
You are not blowharding.
You are blowing hard.
That's how you would say that, correct?
Correct.
I won't be out there blowing hard.
It's not, I won't be out there blowhard.
Blowhard.
Oh, my God.
So anyway, I get, you know, but it's not that bad that you make that mistake, you know?
Not at all.
But I think you have to acknowledge it, right?
That's the thing.
That's what makes you a human being.
And then, or you could be like an adult child of an alcoholic and ignore it.
Okay.
So here we go.
He's got, so I'll get it.
Let's get a running start because you need a running start with this guy, don't you?
So here's my pledge to you.
I will be a commander-in-chief that will have the back of the military.
I won't trash talk.
I won't be a divider-in-chief or an agitator-in-chief.
I won't be out there blowhardening big game without backing it up.
I think the next president needs to be a lot quieter, but send a signal that we're prepared to act in the national security interests of this country to get back in the business of creating a more peaceful world.
Please clap.
So here's my...
That is...
That is pretty sweet.
But he said a more peaceful world.
They probably did not understand that coming from a Bush.
And he does that thing where he just kind of lays his head down like, oh, come on.
Please clap.
Come on.
Give me a break.
You know, he does that.
His whole entire, you could sum up Jeb Bush's entire persona is a shrug.
He's always shrugging.
Like, oh, come on.
He's always shrugging.
So he just reeks of insecurity.
How did this guy ever got elected to dog catcher?
I have no idea.
But look who the Florida just elected.
One long shrug is his personality and his campaign.
Yes, I agree with you 100%.
Yes.
Okay.
So there was a Democratic debate on Thursday night in New Hampshire.
And if you're like me, it was hard to watch.
It was really hard to watch.
Okay, you know how I feel about it.
I've talked about this before.
It's just gross to watch someone running for the Democratic nomination campaigning like a Republican would.
And so here is what I consider to be like the definitive part of the debate.
And then so I think this kind of illuminates everything.
So let's just get to this here.
They're going to talk about Wall Street, money and politics, and which is kind of the defining thing for Bernie Sanders, even though they're making it single-payer healthcare.
I think if you get money out of politics, we'll have single-payer healthcare.
How about that?
I think you got to get one before you get the other.
So here we go.
Let me just say this.
Wall Street is perhaps the most powerful economic and political force in this country.
You have companies like Goldman Sachs, who just recently paid a settlement fine with the federal government for $5 billion for defrauding investors.
Goldman Sachs was one of those companies whose illegal activity helped destroy our economy and ruined the lives of millions of Americans.
But this is what a rigged economy and a corrupt campaign finance system and a broken criminal justice system is about.
These guys are so powerful that not one of the executives on Wall Street has been charged with anything after paying, in this case, of Goldman Sachs, a $5 billion fine.
Kid gets caught with marijuana.
That kid has a police record.
A Wall Street executive destroys the economy.
$5 billion settlement with the government.
No criminal record.
That is what power is about.
That is what corruption is about.
And that is what has changed in the United States of America.
Thank you.
So right there, I think, is the raison d'etre for the Bernie Sanders campaign.
we're done having our entire culture run by a handful of millionaires and billionaires for entirely their own interests at the expense of everybody else.
You know, and if you don't think so, the richest country in the world and 30 million people still don't have health insurance, still don't have health insurance, really.
So, you tell me who's rigging the system and who doesn't care.
Okay.
And we have and we have Lloyd Blankfein, literally, it's in the book, Your Country's Just Not That Into You.
We talked about it on this show before.
Lloyd Blankfein literally said on 16 Minutes, we have to cut Social Security and Medicare.
We just can't afford them.
Except, but I guess we can afford a $15 trillion bailout of your banks whenever we need it.
This was being said by a man who is getting $80 billion a month from the U.S. Treasury, from the U.S. taxpayer.
And he had the balls to say that.
Yes.
Okay, so there you go.
Bernie spoke for himself.
now here comes Hillary's response.
Let me just say that of course it has to change.
It has to change.
And that's why I have put forward a plan to do just that.
She says, of course, it has to change.
And I put forward a plan to do just that.
But then she goes on to, well, let's listen.
And it's been judged to be the toughest, most effective, and comprehensive one.
I have great respect for Senator Sanders' commitment to try to restore Glass-Steagall, but I do not believe that that is enough.
And in fact, I don't believe.
I don't believe that that is enough.
In fact, you don't even believe that should be included.
Right?
She's not for Glass-Steagall.
She's completely against it.
She's against reinstate Glass-Teagle.
I don't think that's enough.
It's like, and so here she comes, and she's BSing.
And who is she BSing?
She's BSing Democratic voters who are interested enough to watch a Democratic debate, which those would be informed.
They're not coming out to see who you hate more.
They're coming out because they're liberals, right?
So, and then you're BSing, you know, what I would consider the most informed voters in the electorate.
This is your strategy.
And this is why she lost the first time.
And I think this is why if she beats Bernie Sanders, she'll lose to general because she's going to suppress the vote of Democrats.
Here we go with some more of her answer.
I believe it really addresses a lot of the biggest issues we have.
You know, we now have power under the Dodd-Frank legislation.
She says, she just said right there, she's against reinstatement.
She doesn't think Glass-Steagall does enough.
No, the reason why you don't think you should reinstate Glass-Deagle is because your donors don't want you to.
Okay, here we go.
Because we have Dodd-Frank, she says.
Which is the worst band-aid on this problem of Wall Street finance.
Every speculation.
Everyone knows that.
Dodd-Frank is full of loopholes.
By the way, Dodd-Frank, both those guys are now on the board of banks.
Dodd and Frank?
Dodd and Frank.
Both on the board of banks.
Yes.
Okay, so here we go.
That's how you know how good.
You know, we now have power under the Dodd-Frank legislation to break up banks.
And I've said I will use that power if they pose a systemic risk.
So what does she say?
So that's the crux of it right there.
So he knows Bernie Sanders knows that the banks are too big.
And if they were too big to fail back then, which they were, that's why we bailed them out.
And then we gave them $80 billion a month for at least two years.
These banks are bigger than ever right now.
Bigger than ever right now.
If they were too big to fail back then, they're certainly too big to fail still because they're bigger right now than they were back then.
So Bernie says, hey, let's break them up.
First of all, that would be great for our economy.
That would be great for, there'd be competition for credit cards.
You'd actually have reasonable rates on things.
There'd actually be money invested back into the economy because they would be more willing to loan because they there's so many, there's so many reasons why it would be good for the economy.
Okay.
And so what Hillary Clinton just said, if it's necessary, we have the power to do it.
So what she just revealed is she doesn't think they're too big right now.
She's like Goldilocks and she's like, oh, this bank is just right.
These banks are just right.
They're not too big, not too small.
They're just right.
Really?
They're bigger than they were before.
And before they were so big, we had to bail them out.
They were too big to fail.
So right there, again, that's the problem.
So Hillary Clinton, if you don't recognize the problem, you can't fix it.
So she doesn't even recognize that there's a problem right now with the banks.
She says if a bank poses a systemic, meaning if a bank goes into failure, they can jump in and break a bank.
This is what she's saying, because they will apply a stress test.
That's how toothless Dodd-Frank was.
They should all be broken up right now.
Because if they fail, we'll have to bail them out.
Okay, so here, let's go a little bit.
So this is the crux right here.
And I guess I'll just go ahead and give my wrap-up right in the middle of this segment.
But the middle of my segment, my wrap-up is, if you think the system is okay the way it is right now, vote for Hillary Clinton.
And if you think the system is fundamentally broken, I mean, campaign finance and the banking system, if you think those two things are fundamentally broken, then vote for Bernie Sanders.
If you think the banking system and the campaign finance system is a-okay and everything that we need to get done could get done within that system, even though it hasn't, then go ahead, vote for Hillary Clinton.
Okay, so here's what she has to say.
I want to go further because it was investment banks.
It was insurance companies.
It was mortgage companies, all of which contributed.
So let's not just be narrowly focused on one part of the problem.
We have a lot of issues with corporate power that have to be addressed.
My plan takes us further and it would do the job.
Secretary Tyno.
So, I mean, I don't know who she thinks she's talking to.
I mean, and it's just, and the Hillary supporters, they're sitting there.
I mean, that's cognitive dissonance.
I don't know what that is.
She's really trying to distract away from breaking up the big banks.
I mean, this is like, look, Squirrel, over there.
Yes.
And like, I think, like, this, you can't, this, this isn't my opinion.
This is what she's doing.
I'm not, that's exactly what she just did.
That's right.
This isn't my biased opinion.
My opinion is biased because she does this stuff.
Okay.
So it's not that it's, it's not, you know, it's the, it's not the, gets like a deck before the horse here.
I'm not biased, and then I see Hillary doing these things.
I see her doing these things.
Okay.
I would say that folks who have looked at this issue for a long time, whether it's Elizabeth Warren or many other economists, would tell you that right now, yes, we do need a 21st century Glass League legislation.
And I would tell you also that when you have three out of the four largest banks in America today, bigger than they were, significantly bigger, than when we bailed them out because they were too big to fail.
I think if Teddy Roosevelt were alive today, a good Republican, by the way, what he would say is, break them up.
They are too powerful economically.
They're too powerful politically.
And that is what I believe and many economists believe.
Time to break them up.
Look, we have a law.
Look, you know, I appreciate the senator's advocacy.
We have a law.
It passed.
It was signed by President Obama.
It lays out a process that you go through to determine whether a systemic risk is posed.
And by the way, President Obama signed that, pushed it through, even though he took donations from Wall Street because he's a responsible president.
So we have a law increase.
So, and she's doing two things at once.
She's saying the banks are perfect the way they are.
There is no problem.
If there is a problem, we can break them up.
She's saying there is no problem right now.
And the second thing she does is, and it's cool for Democrats to take big donations from Wall Street.
See, Playton Obama took money from Wall Street.
See, we take.
So then, why did they give you their money?
Nobody gives you their smartest investors in all the world, and they're going to invest their money in a candidate and not get a return repeatedly.
Really?
Is that what I'm to believe?
These people, these Wall Street money geniuses, they're giving millions and spending billions on lobbying, and none of that money.
They gave her all that money for doing what she's doing right here.
She's defending the financial system as it is.
Yes.
She is doing what she was paid to do right at this point.
And Bernie won't say that.
And that's the thing that's killing me.
He needs to turn and say, this is right.
And why can't he point out what I'm pointing out right now?
That's what she's doing.
That she's saying the bank.
He doesn't say, so, yes, if you listen to Hillary, right now, what she's saying is the banks are okay right now.
I say they're not.
She's okay with the status quo.
She took Wall Street money.
She says leave them exactly how they are.
You tell me if they're getting their money's worth.
He has to keep a gentle hand because eventually he'll need Hillary voters if he's going to get the candidacy.
She doesn't seem to think the same thing of herself.
She doesn't seem to think she needs Bernie voters because she's insulting them all over the place because we can see what she's doing.
She's obfuscating.
She's deflecting.
She's outright lying.
This is egregiously egregiously dishonest.
And you know, but if you're a Hillary voter, and you know, you can say, you know what, I'm still put shame on her.
Like, can you at least say that?
Can you at least give me that?
Or do does three-quarters of the population have to be as bad crap crazy as the Republicans and live in this denial world?
That's what's supposed to make us liberals.
We look at facts.
We're fact-based.
We're evidence-based.
That's what makes us different.
Circumstances warrant it.
I will certainly use it.
And from what you say, I know you will as well.
But that is not enough.
And I keep going back to this because part of the reason the Wall Street guys are trying.
And she's laughing right now.
Why is she laughing?
So that's one of those rhetorical.
Yes.
That's one of those tells.
Yeah.
That's one of those tells.
Okay.
So hard to stop me.
The hedge fund guys, the shadow banking guys, is the hedge fund guys.
Did you hear what she just said?
They tried to stop me, the hedge fund guys.
You mean your son-in-law, your one and only son-in-law, and your one and only daughter, your husband.
Because I've got their number on all of that.
And my plan goes so much further to try to prevent the problems of the future.
You know, we can't just fight the last war.
We've got to be prepared to stop these guys if they ever try to use their economic power once again to hurt the economy and to hurt so many Americans.
And my plan, Paul Krugman, Barney Frank, a lot of experts who understand what the new challenges might be, have said I am exactly on point.
And the Wall Street Barney Frank, who sits on the board of a bank.
That's true.
Guys actually know that.
She says that I've got their number and they've got her number.
And they put it on a check and she cashes it.
Boy, they've got her cell phone number.
So I'll just wrap it up by saying, and I don't, you know, I certainly don't want to go be critical of Hillary to the point where I actually heard her.
If she becomes a nominee, I heard her actually hurt her.
But I think there's nothing, you can't get around the fact that those Bernie voter kids, I mean, I don't think they're going to, I mean, I'm going to have to twist my own arm to go vote for her, right?
And I know, I know the stakes.
And I've lived through, you know, George W. Bush, and I know how bad it could be.
I've seen, I was, you know, I was in high school when Ronald Reagan got elected.
I saw what the skid this country has gone on.
So well, Jimmy, allow me to make the case against Hillary Clinton, just based on this debate performance.
First off, let me say it is amazing to see two presidential candidates fighting over who is more progressive.
That's a beautiful thing to see.
And that is what Bernie Sanders has succeeded in bringing into the national political discourse.
But here's the problem: Hillary can't even fake being a progressive.
No.
She can't even fake it.
And right from the beginning, she is lying.
Let me just say distorting.
Well, let me say this.
Let me say this.
Hillary Clinton is so progressive.
She gets casual compliments from Henry Kissinger.
Well, Kissinger was a realist, and so was Hillary.
Ah.
Ah.
Hey, George Clooney and Ted Cruz call in in the second half.
There's a lot more coming up, but right now we're up against a break.
We'll be right back in one minute.
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Welcome back to the second half of the Jimmy Door show.
We got a lot coming up in the second half, like what I saw when I went to the Eye of a Caucus.
We're going to talk about that.
But right now, I got a phone call from George Clooney.
Hey, this is Jimmy.
Who's this?
Jimmy.
George Cloody here.
Whoa.
Hey, George Cloody.
How are you?
Not bad, Jimmy.
Not too shabby.
I would imagine not.
You know, you're George Cloody, after all.
You know, I'm still a little tickled that we get to talk to you on my show.
That's not surprising.
Now, be honest, you have little friendship fantasies about old Georgie Porgy here.
Maybe.
Like we go out for sushi a lot, drink scotch, wear suits and laugh really hard together, play pranks on other celebrities, gags and boners.
Maybe ride a tandem bike eating ice cream cones.
Yes, all of it.
Yes.
Don't worry, Jimmy.
That's completely normal.
George Clooney friendship fantasies are very typical for a man your age.
They're completely healthy.
Especially for someone in show business like yourself.
It just shows professional ambition.
They're not homoerotic at all.
Nothing to worry about.
Well, that's good to know.
So what's up?
What are you calling about?
Well, Jimmy, I wanted to talk to you a little bit about the presidential race.
Well, you called the right place, George.
And more specifically, the Hollywood angle as it stands right now.
A little on-the-ground report, if you're interested.
Sort of the team captain of Hollywood liberalism.
So I was thinking I could shed some light on what's going on out here.
Okay, that sounds great.
So who is notoriously liberal Hollywood rooting for here?
Well, Jimmy, we seem to be split.
Some for Hillary, some for Bernie.
Right.
What's the determining this fault line?
There are a number of factors.
Obviously, there's the woman thing.
Lena Dunham, for example, is strongly in the Clinton camp for feminist reasons.
So a lot of people don't want to seem not feminist or get yelled at by Lena Dunham, so they go with Hillary for that reason.
And Seth McFarland is for Bernie.
And lots of people think he's a misogynist because he sang a song about boobs a few years back.
As you know, if someone you don't like or disagree with endorses a candidate, you can't a good conscience endorse that candidate yourself.
That's just eighth-grade civics right there.
Okay, I see.
So the women whose careers kind of represent modern feminism, Amy Kohler, Beyoncé, Carrie Washington, Carol King, their hands are tied.
They got to go hill all the way.
So this is.
But on the other hand, aside from the gender thing, there's the youth thing.
Even more than being on the side of feminism in Hollywood, it's important to be on the side of young.
Bernie has that young person jazz to his campaign like Barack Obama did.
Not only are these young cats that no one my age has even heard of-Disney Channel actors, pop music artists, vine stars.
I don't believe they endorsing Bernie because he's the first politician they've ever heard of.
You got older cats going along.
You know, it seems young and hip.
My good man, Danny DeVito, did that smart career move.
Just like you joined the cast of Always Sunny in Philadelphia with all those young, beautiful people doing the same thing politically.
Getting that stink of young on you is crucial in this top.
Susan Sarandon switched to Bernie.
Same thing.
She can't let herself be caught standing next to Hillary, especially if the light isn't right.
Look like Grey Gardens is up there.
She'd be done.
But what about actual issues?
I mean, is anyone.
I'm getting to that.
Of course, the most important issue that matters, Hollywood, is who you as an actor could play to biopic in a few years.
Biopic?
What?
Of course, Jimmy.
Why do you think Vince Vaughan is endorsing Ted Cruz?
Ted Cruz wins.
Vince gets to play Ted Cruz in a USA Network movie based about based on Ted Cruz's rise to power.
Characters welcome.
Maybe that's a separate phone call.
Amy Poehler already has a Hillary Clinton impression down to beat the band.
Of course, she wants her future biopic of Hillary to have that iconic swearing in scene.
Why do you think Ryan Gosling is endorsing Sanders?
He played great Bernie.
Everybody knows.
You know, I'm sorry, I really can't see Ryan Gosling as Bernie Sanders.
No offense, George.
Could you have seen Cuba Gooding Jr. as O.J. Simpson?
This is Hollywood, Jimmy.
We decide what you look like.
Okay, but what about actual campaign issues, George?
Issues that affect ordinary Americans.
Like what, Kimo Sabi?
I don't know.
Anything?
Campaign finance reform, Silver Liberties, breaking up the banks.
Oh, right, that stuff.
Well, as far as the minutiae of that kind of crap goes, this is Hollywood.
Our two main issues are war and gays.
Okay, well, that's a start, I suppose.
War and gays is what wins Oscars.
Oscars, baby.
We need them.
We love them.
Fine, yes.
So from what I've been told, Bernie and Hillary are fine with gays, Right.
Yes, gay rights is not really an issue that splits the Democratic Party anymore.
Gay marriage is legal.
We won.
And you're welcome, by the way.
I say that on behalf of Hollywood.
What?
I don't think we'd be where we are today without giving so many Oscars to movies about gay stuff.
I'd like to think it was a little more to do with the tireless efforts of everyday committed Americans fighting the system, but, you know, but thanks for your part.
Fine.
Okay, so gays is settled.
That leaves war.
Talk to me.
Well, you know, Bernie seems a little more averse to neocon nation building than Hillary does.
You know, the kind of nation building that dragged us through all these recent pointless wars and conflicts.
But she's certainly no Republican warhawk herself.
That's tough.
Hollywood is against war, but we still need to make war movies.
Are you saying there may be more of a chance of armed conflict with President Clinton?
Maybe slightly, yes.
Hmm.
Like not a huge deal, but maybe like another blackhawk down type situation.
Yeah, I can certainly see that happening.
Like a small mission in a third world country that goes awry.
A dedicated band of soldiers, led by their handsome yet grizzled captain, to fight their way out of a sticky situation.
And the captain gives, you know, some kind of amazing speech of some kind.
Would Hillary be for that?
You know, you scratch your political surface, George, and it's really all about you, isn't it?
Jimmy, we're Hollywood.
I mean, we represent the hopes and dreams of the American people.
We're in this together.
You know, it really doesn't sound like that, George.
Look, we don't want some giant war, just a little baby war, a little Oscar war, to show people that war is bad and we shouldn't have wars.
Is that too much to ask?
You know, I'm starting to see your liberalism in a different light, George.
It seems only when it's convenient are you against wars, and you really don't mind a neoliberal agenda if it helps prop up your movie business.
Am I right?
Come on, Jimmy.
Let's maybe talk about this over some sushi.
Maybe a little scotch.
If you have a Macintosh computer that needs fixing, Sean James can fix it for you right over the internet like magic.
Send him an email at MacHelp at SeanJames.com and sell Sean and say, okay, George, I'm going to end this.
And what I do, I would like to meet you for sushi.
Can we go Friday at 8?
I'll see what I can do.
Okay, buddy.
Thanks, pal.
All right.
We'll play a prank on Don Cheadle.
What will we do to him?
I don't know.
Drop him Nevada Acid or something.
Okay, that sounds fun.
All right.
Thanks, George.
All right.
Good times, buddy.
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Yes.
So Jimmy's just off the plane from the Iowa caucuses.
He was the eyewitness in the sky, eyewitness on the ground.
Are you happy to be back in LA being poisoned by methane?
Oh, yes, very much so.
I'll take methane over a blizzard any day.
But here's the thing.
The blizzard is beautiful on the trees, but that's it.
And, you know, we drove from Des Moines to Omaha the day after the blizzard.
You think everything would be cleared, right?
Like they go through this all the time.
Sure.
No, there's trucks in the ditch left and right turned completely around going the wrong way.
Like, how did you slide that way?
It was really wild.
It was crazy.
Okay, let's go.
How has Iowa changed since the last time you were there?
It is, you know, there's a lot more of those nicer-looking strip malls.
Remember, strip malls used to just be crappy, and then they decided, hey, we could actually make them look nice and put a nice restaurant in them and things.
So it's just non-stop that.
That's all Des Moines is.
So tell us, so you are at the Bernie Sanders headquarters, among other headquarters.
What were the demographics like there?
Oh, okay.
So at the Bernie Sanders headquarters, it was mostly white, but the ages varied.
There were, you know, I saw senior citizens.
I saw kids.
There was obviously more young people, right?
But there was certainly a good swath.
Here's the thing.
At the Bernie Sanders headquarters, you know, there was just a bevy of activity.
I'm not kidding.
It was non-stop.
And like, you could feel the energy in the room.
And there were celebrities coming in all the time.
And, you know, they were.
What kind of celebrities?
Well, there are A-list celebrities like Susan Sarandon.
And then there were others.
I don't want to see now.
Now I'm going to.
Let me take other A-list celebrities, like the people I didn't recognize because I don't follow stuff.
People from the Hunger Games were there.
There was a guy.
I actually saw the Hunger Games.
And I couldn't pick out any of those actors.
They were sitting in front of me, obviously.
So there was that kind of thing happening.
There were some musicians, right?
So Vampire Weekend were there.
And I mean, just a bevy.
Then there were other politicians showing up all the time.
Howard Dean's brother was there.
Howard Dean, you know, he used to be, he used to say he was from the Democratic wing of the Democratic Party.
And then they and then the and then the establishment wing of the Democratic Party squashed him in conjunction with the corporate-bought media.
And he somehow managed to get in line.
He got his mind right to Howard Dean because he's supporting Hillary Clinton.
So, you know what I mean?
It just makes me think of when in Kool Hand Luke, I got my mind right, boss.
That's what I think happened to Howard Dean.
I got my mind right.
I got my mind right.
So maybe he's planning a big breakout in the spring or something.
Who knows?
I'm talking about Howard A. So his brother was there because he's a real true believer.
And who will?
Oh, so like Chewy Garcia, who ran against Ram Emanuel for mayor, he was there.
He gave a speech.
Like all of a sudden, people just showed up.
So I mentioned, I think I talked about this on the premium in detail, right?
Well, I'm just interested by what you're saying because a lot of pundits have been saying that Bernie is only attracting educated white middle-class voters.
And so that's sort of being borne out by what you're seeing in Iowa.
It's just a crazy way to attack someone.
Hey, he's only getting the informed people.
So we can't have that.
We need a little more Wrestling?
We need people who are more easily.
We need people who, can he appeal to the easily duped?
Is that the question?
Is that really talking about attracting a majority of American voters here, though?
Yes.
You know, Pete Delessandro, who is on the inside on the Bernie Sanders campaign.
In fact, he introduced him at the Victory Party or whatever you want to call it.
I guess they couldn't declare victory in Iowa yet.
You know, they're going to read.
Anyway, the Des Moines paper came out today, the one that endorsed Hillary, and they called out the garbage that happened at the caucuses.
And they said that there should be a full and transparent recount.
Right now, it's not.
It's not transparent.
So they endorsed Hillary, and they're saying this.
So, you know, I don't think by any means, who knows?
You know, the last time this in 2012, this happened with the Republicans, right?
And you remember that, I guess, weeks later, they ended up declaring Rick Santorum the winner.
That's right.
Right.
So, and they said, hey, we got to clean up this process.
We can't have this.
Nobody knows the results.
And then it switches.
So they did clean up their process.
But the Democrats haven't.
And the Des Moines paper calls for that today in their editorials.
So in the Iowa caucuses, Republicans do their caucuses through paper ballots, but the Democrats literally have people standing in the corner of a room.
Yes, and someone counts them.
And then, you know, and then guess what?
People leave.
People go home.
People, you know, people leave for myriad reasons.
That's amazing to me.
I mean, those are really uncommitted voters.
I mean, I came out to caucus, but you know what?
I lost interest.
You know, maybe they had to go to work.
There's, you know, as I remind people on the premium, of course, the people who can show up and have two or three hours to kill on a Monday night are the business owners and the 1% for sure.
And the people who don't are the people who actually have to work, right?
I was at the Perkins and I asked that, hey, are you caucusing?
She says, no, I have to work.
So, yeah, somebody has to.
So every restaurant that's open, every bar that's open, those are blue-collar people who aren't allowed to vote in Des Moines.
Think about that.
They're not allowed to vote because they have to work.
They can't go caucus at noon.
You know, at least when you vote, we still have it on a workday, which is crazy, but at least you get almost all day to do it, right?
You could go before work.
You could go after work.
You could go on your lunch break.
And you don't have to be there for hours.
So this whole idea of it, you know, anyway.
Do Iowans enjoy this idiosyncratic way of doing things with the caucuses?
Is there some quaint appeal for them to preserve this?
You know, that's, I should have asked more people that question.
Okay.
But it, it doesn't, you know, like the people I asked, they couldn't.
Like, I can't, I don't think she would be happy with it.
I don't think any of the waitresses at Perkins that night would be happy with that.
I'm sure some of them wanted to have their voice heard in the caucus.
Yeah.
Right?
I would hope so.
So.
And I understand that you also went to the Jeb Bush headquarters for a Jeb Explanation point.
Yes, I certainly did.
I think I talked about this in the premium.
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And we're only doing the show this way because Jimmy is just off the so I just off the plane and we don't have I have to go cover the debate tonight for the young Turks, which they had well, you know, we all see the media circus that surrounds these candidates in the primaries.
You were in the eye of the storm.
So what are your impressions of how these things are covered by the reporters and the networks and how they do things?
You were there on the ground.
What were some of your impressions?
You know, just the fact that everybody, all the reporters just about look like cadavers.
But in a good way, you know how they look lifeless.
And, you know, I wear, I'm not saying, you know, when I go on camera, I put makeup on too, right?
You don't want to, you can't have a shine, but they just even, you know, how our cadaver's hair looks?
You know what I mean?
Like it's perfect, but it's like thin.
I don't even know how to describe it.
But it was quite, it was, it was quite a thing to watch to walk into a Ted Cruz event in Jefferson City and see, you know, a hundred reporters there and people like myself, you know, and then people from Fox News and people from ABC and the AP.
And, you know, there's a really, real mixed bag of reporters, which, you know, there's a lot of people like me, right?
Who are who don't have a million dollar budget, but to have a, have a listenership and a big viewership and are there covering it.
And, you know, there's a camaraderie in a sense.
Certainly no camaraderie with Carl Cameron and Fox News, which if you listen to the bonus content, you heard the, we almost mixed it up with them.
Anyway, I did some live remotes via Skype live into the Young Turks show.
That was set up by Skype.
And they have their own big, you know, thing down there.
I had no idea it was that big of a deal.
I mean, I know the Iowa caucuses are a big deal, but it was almost like they had like the Kodak Theater and it was like tears and full of reporters.
You know, just full, not as big as the Kodak Theater, but pretty big, right?
And just every, you know, foreign reporters and every kind of, it was crazy.
And then you go, I went out to get some food.
I went out to a pizza place across the street and I see all these NBC trucks and they're out in front of a place called Cup of Joe, I think.
And that's, and I asked the people at the pizza place, they said, oh, yeah, more MSNBC.
That's where they're, they're located.
You know, that's their central.
They're not over at the media center.
They're over here in this.
I'm like, oh, you're kidding me.
So I wonder, I bet you there were a lot of people doing that.
Like they wanted their own space.
I didn't go over there because, you know, I'm sure Chris Hayes wants to take a swing at me.
And Chris Matthews also, you know, did anybody recognize me?
As much as I'd like to say, I got recognized Everywhere I went.
Whenever I meet someone, the more excited they are, the more nervous I get because I just feel like, oh, they have this impression of me that might be, you know, great.
And then I'm going to just a matter of time before I let them down.
Right.
So I just want to make it brief because I'm afraid I'm going to say something stupid.
And then they're like, huh, what?
What kind of a stupid thing?
I thought Jimmy Dore was cool.
And then he said that.
You know, so I'm always afraid I'm going to say something that lets them down once they see that I'm not as great as my public persona.
You're a little bit better, all the stuff I've seen you do.
Well, Jimmy, I have to add.
But really, I told you we were at the Ted Cruz event in Jefferson City.
There's one black guy there, and he came over and said hi because he recognized me.
Wow.
Yeah, so that was pretty cool.
Tell me about the Tedans.
So exactly what you think.
Super white, super rural, super taken care of by socialism, right?
So they all drove there on roads that got plowed and are maintained by socialism.
And then they're all, a lot of them were senior citizens, right?
So they were all taken care of with their health care and their retirement funds and through socialism.
And then, but it's obvious Medicare doesn't cover dental.
I'll tell you that.
And then there was some school kids there who are also being taken care of through socialism through public schools.
So, and that was a community.
Ironically, we were at a community center.
Do they not understand that they're the beneficiaries of social programs, socialist programs?
I think it's that cognitive dissonance thing.
Like I asked one woman there about how can you support Ted Cruz?
Like, doesn't it bother you that he's taken $36 million from four different individual billionaires?
And she said no, that she doesn't think that he did that.
And then another woman who was a big supporter said that even if he did do that, you know, just because you have to get money from somewhere to run a campaign, and just because you borrow money from a bank to buy your house, that doesn't mean you take orders from the bank.
No, but it does mean that your house is owned by the bank and you have to pay them back with money.
So what Ted's going to pay his donors back with is political favors and crony capitalism and writing laws to rig the system for those billionaires.
That's how he pays him back.
And I didn't say that.
I didn't want to be confrontational with those people.
I wanted to hear, I wanted to let it just come out, you know, just, I wanted them to spill, you know, just everything.
I didn't want them to think I was the enemy or any, I just wanted them to just get it out.
I didn't want them to censor, right, or try to parse their words.
I wanted them to just, and so they did.
And boy, they did.
You know, yes.
So.
So you're committing acts of actual genuine journalism.
Interesting.
I wouldn't go that far.
I wouldn't go that far.
Music.
you you you Hey, there's a lot more to our conversation about what I saw in Iowa when I went there for the caucus.
Plus, but we just don't have time to get to it in today's radio show.
We also have a Ted Cruz.
He called into the show.
We didn't have time to get to that either, but I guess what I'm going to play a little bit of it for you right now so you can get a little taste for it.
Here's Ted Cruz.
Hello, who's this?
Hello, world.
It's me, Ted Cruz.
Oh, hi, Senator Cruz.
Congratulations on winning the Republican caucus in Iowa.
To God be the glory.
You surprised all the pundits that believe Trump had a firm lead in Iowa.
What do you attribute your incredible upset in Iowa to?
Forever, the GOP has been underestimating Republican voters.
They just haven't had the bravery to underestimate them enough.
Oh, I see.
I, Ted Cruz, have that bravery.
You do?
Let us pray.
No, no, I want to ask you some questions, Ted.
Do you believe your campaign will resonate outside evangelical regions of the country?
I believe in the real America.
There has been a silent majority that has never been silent and will be less silent than ever before.
Okay.
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We derive our beliefs from the chain emails of Uncle Gilbert.
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