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The Jimmy Dore Show.
There's a threat that endangers all American citizens.
It's not a threat from the outside.
It's homegrown.
There's been another mass shooting and nobody is shocked.
You know, the first step to dealing with a problem is admitting you have a problem.
The only culture America has is gun culture.
And your right to walk around without being shot is superseded by a right-wing nutjobs right to own an assault weapon.
During last Friday, the shopping freakout known as Black Friday, there was a record-breaking 190,000 guns purchased.
That's a gun purchased every two seconds.
Republicans like Ted Cruz have been spooking impotent paranoids with the threat that Obama is coming after their guns.
The right-wing inspires panic buying of weapons while the gun manufacturers are panic buying politicians.
The culmination of the Republican Party's irresponsible rhetoric led to the attack on a Planned Parenthood clinic in Colorado.
The victims included a military veteran and a police officer, all the people the right-wing pretends to care about.
But what the right wing really cares about is guns.
This is a test of political representation.
The majority of Americans want basic gun control laws, but a minority of gun manufacturers don't.
Guess who the political parties listen to?
Gun perverts insist on their Second Amendment rights as yet another well-regulated militia shoots up another school.
The gun culture infects every layer of society from the top to the bottom.
The solution to everything is violence.
Police shoot to kill.
Oversea threats require trillions of dollars while domestic problems are ignored.
Bombs and drones are the answer to foreign instability.
America believes in gun control, just not in America.
How many children, innocent civilians, friends, family have to be killed before America admits it has a problem.
See you at the next mass shooting.
It's the Jimmy Dore Show.
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And now, here's a guy who sounds like me.
It's Jimmy Dores.
Hi, everybody.
Welcome to this week's show.
I am joined on the Skype all the way from New York City.
You know him, you love him from Mystery Science Theater 3000.
It's TV's Frank Frank Conniff.
Hey, Frank.
Hello there.
Yay, good to hear your voice.
Also with me from the Miserable Liberal blog, it's our resident Latina.
It's Steph Zemarano.
Hey, Steph.
Hey, Jimmy, I'm still here.
Yay, you're not deported.
Not yet.
Not deported.
I am not self-deporting either.
All right.
Also, you'll be hearing intermittently the voice of Hank Thompson.
Hey, Hank.
Hey, Jimmy.
Yay.
Hank is setting up everything for the new show.
Okay.
Tech guy.
So let's get to some of the jokes before we get.
Hey, Frank, how did you got any gigs coming up?
You got a gig coming up this weekend, right?
Next week in St. Louis.
What's the date on that?
December 12th in St. Louis.
Go to frankconniff.com for more information.
Yay.
Okay.
December 12th, St. Louis.
Go see Frank.
Now let's get to the jokes before we get to the jokes, shall we?
Hey, did you hear Trump mocked?
Trump mocked a person's disability?
Oh, yes.
A reporter who had a because he contradicted him.
You know, when Trump says make America great again, he means the good old days when presidential candidates openly mocked Helen Keller.
So let's get this straight.
The GOP wants it to be hard for poor women to get health care at Planned Parenthood clinics, but they want it to be easy for psychos to get guns and open fire on one.
Got it.
Okay.
That's true.
Hey, guess what, Frank?
The Ted Cruz campaign gaining momentum with more support from people who condone domestic terrorism against abortion clinics on the way.
There you go, Ted.
Hey, by the way, if you're publicly shy and you want to avoid excessive press coverage, become a white terrorist who shoots up a Planned Parenthood clinic.
It's been forgotten already.
Forgotten already.
I'm looking forward to the Criterion Collection box set of faked Planned Parenthood videos and non-existent Jersey Muslims cheering 9-11 footage.
There you go.
There you go.
You know, Steve Ducey said on Fox and Friends, well, when he said on Fox and Friends, I actually saw Muslims cheering.
What he didn't say was, okay, let's roll the tape.
That's what he didn't say.
Okay.
Hey, Frank, do you think Donald Trump's wife ever worries that she's going to end up in an underground bunker committing a double suicide with Donald?
It seems like that's her faith.
Ah, you know a little history about World War II to get that joke.
You know, scientists who say climate change is real cannot be trusted.
I think we can all agree on that.
But goobers claiming they saw Jersey Muslims cheering 9-11 are beyond reproach.
You know, we're getting to the point where a day without a mass shooting will be a newsworthy event.
I know what Ted Cruz means when he says that it was a leftist, transgendered lesbian who shot up that Planned Parenthood clinic because I lived in the West Village for a while and it was overrun with transgendered left-wing activists shooting up abortion clinics.
It really was.
All right.
They hate abortion.
Hey, what's coming up on today's show?
Donald Trump said some stuff about the Muslims cheering on 9-11.
Chuck Todd pushed back.
Everyone's making a big deal out of it.
We're going to take a look at it.
Plus, we need to go to war.
Barack Obama is sending more people, troops, troops, boots on the ground over to Iraq.
We're back in Iraq.
We're back in fighting in Syria.
We're doing it on the same resolution that sent us to Afghanistan after 9-11.
That's right.
We're not debating this.
We got a couple experts that's going to tell us the best way to defeat ISIS.
Plus, Planned Parenthood shooting.
Is the right-wing rhetoric responsible at all for it?
The answer just may surprise you, or will it?
Plus, the Chicago police in disarray.
We got phone calls today from Jeb Bush and Speaker John Boehner calls in, plus a lot lot more.
That's today on the Jimmy Dore Show.
Jimmy Dore Show.
Hello, who's this?
This is John Boehner, former Speaker of the House of Fucking Representatives.
Miss me yet.
Oh, Mr. Boehner, what do you mean?
Miss You Yet?
About a couple more butts of Paul Ryan.
You'll be saying, remember that Speaker of the House who was a blubbering drunk?
Yeah, he wasn't so bad.
Whatever happened to him.
I thought you were friendly with Paul Ryan.
Clean, living, tofu eating, looking at himself in the mirror, yuppie prick, complaining that he can't get the Rico cigarette smoke out of my office.
While panties like him are working out at the gym, real men are in their office drinking and crying about their lives.
Mr. Boehner, what have you been doing since retiring from the house?
Going off the grid.
Stop piling weapons, drinking my own urine, raising truffle hogs.
Shit, unusual.
Trufflehog, where are you calling from?
I forget.
Oh, yeah, the Shaglong Saloon in Thailand.
Thailand?
Since retiring, I could finally spend time with my second family.
I was secretly married to Bupa by child bride during a congressional goodwill explorer trip.
I was exploring how much goodwill a U.S. $10 bill could buy in Bangkok.
You two are happy together?
Bupa and I are celebrating an important day in the family.
Our precious daughter, Tanya, has finally reached working age.
Oh, that's nice.
How old is she?
Three.
Okay.
We're very proud.
Finally, get her out of the house.
Thank you, TPP.
Do you miss being the GOP speaker?
Are you kidding me?
Babysitting Tea Party mongoloids.
Fish-faced McConnell is staking the coat room for the men's toilet.
Having to warn Republicans not to stir up the inbreed hay seats too much.
Right now, I would have to pretend to give two shits about Syrian refugees.
I don't miss it for a minute.
Though I wish my parents could have seen everything I prevented from getting accomplished for my country.
I'm not crying, Daddy.
I was a big man you want me to be.
Let me say you with you, mommy.
It's safe here.
Speaker Boehner, are you sucking your thumb?
I don't know.
It's somebody's thumb.
It's the waiter.
What do you want?
Would I like another drink?
Let me save you the trouble.
The answer to that question will always be yes.
Oh, Aki, I think I should let you go.
I've got chapped lips.
Your thumb isn't infected, is it?
I appreciate you calling, Mr. Boehner.
All right, Jimmy.
As we Republicans say this in every holiday season, fuck you and your entire family.
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Thank you.
So let's talk about the Iraq war for a second because it's back on, by the way.
It's back on.
Right, Frank?
You know what?
It's back on.
It's been rebooted.
They rebooted.
It's the Iraq War 2.0.
Yeah.
So it's back on.
There was a Kickstarter to get it going.
There was Kickstarter.
Yeah, and they, believe me, they met their goal.
So everybody realizes that the first time we went into Iraq was a big mistake.
Even guys like Glenn Beck say this.
From the beginning, most people on the left were against going into Iraq.
I wasn't.
Liberals said we shouldn't get involved.
They said we shouldn't get mired in another foreign mess.
We shouldn't nation build.
And besides, there was no indication that the people of Iraq had the will to be free.
I thought that was insulting at the time.
Everybody wants to be free.
They said we couldn't force freedom on people.
You know what?
Let me lead with my mistakes.
You're right.
Liberals, you were right.
Wow.
So that's Glenn Beck giving it up that the liberals were right about, or as Sam Harris calls us, regressives, that we were right about not wanting to go into Iraq and that it was a big mistake.
We're going back in.
But the mistake that Glenn Beck makes there is that he mistakenly thinks that we went in to liberate the Iraqi people.
That was, we couldn't care less about the Iraqi people.
We didn't go in there because of weapons of mass destruction or to liberate the Iraqi people or to bring democracy to the Middle East.
We went in there for, well, why?
Joe Scarborough told us, this is from a year ago.
This is when ISIS first started chopping heads off, right?
Which I still think was set up by the CIA so that we would overreact and send more people over there so we could have a war again because we're losing wars.
You can't lose wars.
You got to keep the military industrial complex going.
So here is what Joe Scarborough said a year ago in October of 2014 when ISIS was chopping people's heads off and about whether we should invade.
Here's why he said the real reason we need to go back into Iraq.
That having, as the daily news says, Al-Qaeda nation being born in Iraq, the middle of Iraq, with access to oil fields, with access to billions of dollars.
I just, Barack Obama knows that's not acceptable.
And there's no good option here.
Okay.
So Joe Scarborough saying the reason why we can't let ISIS control a big part of the Middle East, they got oil because they got oil and everybody knows it.
And it doesn't matter.
So, but what if the people are against it?
Joe Scarborough said it doesn't matter if 2% of the country is for it.
And 98% is again, we got to go.
He said that.
That's not acceptable.
So we can have this debate all we want.
And Barack Obama knows that even if only 2% of Americans support this, the United States of America is going to have to stop this force from dominating Iraq.
Because they have oil.
Because there's a lot of oil there.
Nothing to do with liberating peoples.
It's got nothing to do with democracy.
And you heard Joe Scarborough say, even, by the way, that's on MSNBC.
A guy has four hours a day.
He says, even if the people are against going into Iraq again, we got to go for oil.
For oil.
What?
He's leaving out the word our oil.
Yeah.
So here's William Crystal.
Here's Bill Kristol.
Here's what he says about the same issue.
What if the people aren't for it?
He's the president of the United States.
He's not running for re-election.
Would Congress stop him if he did this?
Would the country support him under the circumstances that Joe just led out?
I just, I think.
What if it did?
What if his approval rate?
Yes, well, let us override the will of the PBS.
That is absolutely right.
Yes, override the will of the people.
You just heard William Crystal.
You just heard him say that, right?
He said, yes, we need to override the will of the people.
Well, William Crystal is always overriding the will of truth.
So, you know, it's just kind of ridiculous.
So, and everybody, by the way, so what everybody was pushing back on Bill Kristall there about he wanted to go in.
He wanted to have a bombing campaign against ISIS, and he wanted to put in a bunch of special ops.
And guess what?
That's exactly what we're doing.
We've already dropped something like 9,000 bombs on ISIS, and we're putting in hundreds, if not thousands now, of advisors to help train.
We're not helping Trade.
They're doing active military missions inside of Iraq, inside of Syria.
So we're back in a war.
We're doing it.
What they said to Bill Kristall and Joe Scarborough is the people aren't for it.
Doesn't matter.
We're doing it anyway.
They want Bill Kristol and Joe Scarbo want peace in this world for the rest of 2003.
That's their hope.
So here is, I was watching Lawrence O'Donnell.
He had a really smart person come on the show who knows Eli Berman, right?
So he's a smart person.
He knows everything.
Here's what he says how to defeat ICIS.
By the way, we can't bomb ISIS out of existence, right?
So I guess what we said before is you got to bomb these Muslims, even though we've been bombing Iraq for since 2003.
We've been bombing them since 2003, actually way before that.
We started bombing them way before that, okay?
So we've been bombing Iraq since the first Gulf War.
Bill Clinton continued it.
It started again under Dor Dubb.
So we haven't really ever stopped bombing.
We've been doing it for 14 years.
We haven't, what we've done is created more enemies.
That's exactly what bombing does.
It creates more enemies.
Yeah, we bombed them into existence.
We bombed them into, we bombed ISIS into existence.
That's a great way to put it.
That's right.
But the idea of the neocons is that you have to bomb the Muslims.
If you bomb them enough, you'll turn them into Christians.
You bomb a little more, you turn them into Jews.
Bomb them too much, you turn them into atheists.
Then you got a whole nother problem.
So here he brings, he brings on this guy, Eli Berman.
And here's what he says, the best way to defeat, because ISIS can, here's the best way to defeat ISIS.
You know, the Soviet Union collapsed not because we invaded them.
They collapsed because they imploded on their own.
As an economic ideology, it failed.
Now, ISIS has an economic ordaje, as an ideology of governance.
And they're trying something that we know from experience fails.
It's basically a bunch of thugs polluting the local population.
That's not a way that you could possibly govern.
And so if we left it alone, it would eventually implode.
So he makes the point, Frank, that we beat Russia without firing a shot.
And how do we do it?
Their economy imploded on itself.
And he's saying the same thing would happen with ISIS because they're set up, their system is not a governing system.
So it wouldn't work.
We should just let them implode on themselves, right?
So let the people who live there, where ISIS is, let the people who live there get rid of them themselves, right?
That's really what you should do.
If a government can't sustain itself, let it get rid of.
So that's a great, but again, that's not what we're doing.
We're going to go and try to bomb them.
It's American exceptionalism.
And look, okay, we created one ISIS, but that doesn't mean we can't create several more.
Let's not be quitters.
And here's the whole thing.
We're doing this.
We're ramping up the war right now with Iraq and with ISIS in the Middle East because of the Paris terrorist attacks.
So here comes Jacob.
Well, I just thought it was our way to say happy Christmas.
Yes.
So you say happy holidays.
So here is Jacob Shapiro.
He's an associate professor of politics from Princeton.
And here's what he has to say about us going to war with ISIS because of the Paris attacks.
This is very interesting.
So this organization has been in existence since at least 2006.
And for that entire time, has had the capacity to attempt attacks like the one in Paris.
And that was true when it had, when the United States had 160,000 forces on the ground.
It's true today when we have none on the ground.
And so sending 20,000 forces in, yes, you could pull down Daesh's flag from Raqqa,000 American forces and air power.
But that doesn't solve the problem of being able to engage in terrorism overseas.
That's the problem you're trying to solve.
You need a political settlement.
And experience in that region shows you're not going to get that by simply taking the capital.
So what he's saying is you want to stop terrorism like the terrorism that happened in France, sending troops over there isn't going to do it.
Because guess what?
They can do that at any time.
When we had hundreds of thousands of troops in Iraq, they still had the capability to do attacks like that.
You can't stop terrorism.
So that's a great point.
They have the ability.
So us bombing ISIS in, you know, Raqqa or going to Mosul and bombing ISIS, it's not going to stop attacks that happen in Paris.
By the way, those were planned by people from Belgium, right?
So bombing.
I think we should invade Iraq.
Then we should invade Iraq.
Definitely.
Am I wrong?
So again, once again, it's very sad what's happening.
The way you beat them is you let them implode.
They have a bad governing system.
The people, we bombed ISIS into existence.
Let's just remember that.
Jimmy, all of your theories are based on the fact that you're learning the lessons of history.
So it has no place in the discourse.
None.
No.
you you You know, in the media recently has emerged the sneaking suspicion that Donald Trump just might be a compulsive sociopathic liar.
You can understand why it's taken the press so long to come to this conclusion.
Trump's lies are so understated and subtle.
I watched when the World Trade Center came tumbling down.
And I watched in Jersey City, New Jersey, where thousands and thousands of people were cheering.
As that building was coming down, thousands of people were cheering.
Yes, demonstrable.
The news media have been living in a Donald Trump zone private Idaho for so long, they forgot what their job is.
Trump claims to have seen 9-11 footage of thousands of New Jersey Muslims having tailgate parties on rooftops.
Because, you know, on rooftops is where you have tailgate parties.
First, you drive your car to the top of the apartment building, and then you open your trunk and you start barbecuing.
Am I right about that, Frank?
Well, Jimmy, yes, but what you're not saying is that since Trump said that, and, you know, saying thousands of thousands of Muslims were celebrating and it was on video and people have been asking him for proof, he did produce a video of Curtis Slewa,
a local New York radio guy and a former head of the Guardian Angels saying that he heard about a couple of guys who might have been doing that.
So as you can see, he's been vindicated.
Yeah.
Yeah, thousands of Muslims were cheering the Twin Towers, but nobody can find any video of it.
You know, I've heard lots of 9-11 conspiracy theories, but this is the least believable one.
This has got to be.
Actually, there's some theory that the reason nobody has seen that footage is because it was on the Carson Daly show.
You see.
Well, you know, Jimmy, I understand, like, every time there is a crisis, you know, like 9-11, who doesn't immediately send a news crew to New Jersey?
Immediately, right?
Well, Trump says that the footage can't be found because it was on, quote, ancient technology.
Frank, you remember the good old days, 2001, when all the videotape was being done on papyrus parchment paper?
And then the friars had to copy them by hand.
You remember that?
That took forever.
I was particularly pissed off when I first saw that video of the Muslims cheering because it preempted the Texaco Star Theater with Milton Burrow.
And then the kinetoscope I was trying to watch it on disintegrated.
So it's kind of messed up.
You know what, Frank?
I don't think a billionaire has the resources to find a video of a massive historical event that was aired on public TV.
Don't you remember the great videotape famine of 2001?
And also, one thing that really backs Trump up is because at the time, you might remember that people were not really trying to fan the flames of war back then.
So a clip of thousands of Muslims in New Jersey cheering 9-11.
It's not the type of thing that would have been of any interest to say Fox News or Network.
They really weren't into that kind of thing.
So it probably just got, I mean, it's probably in somebody's video collection, like underneath their tape of Stopper, My Mom Will Shoot or something.
Yes, I think Stopper, my mom.
Did they ever make a sequel to that?
Because that was so good.
So everyone's making a big deal, Frank, out of the fact that Chuck Todd actually corrected Donald Trump when he had him phone in again to talk.
This is a new thing, by the way.
And by still, the only guy who gets to phone in on Sunday shows, Donald Trump.
Yeah.
So Donald, so Donald Trump phoned in, and Chuck Todd pushed back, and everyone's making a big deal.
Are they making a big deal?
Chuck Todd did his job.
Making a big deal that Chuck Todd did his job.
So let's just, here's how he starts.
Let's go to this Jersey City comment.
You said you saw this.
Nobody can find evidence of this.
And more importantly, the article that you tweeted out that says that this backed you up, that in itself, there were three or four different reports that month in New Jersey that said it was a myth that was spread, that it was a false rumor.
FBI, you name it.
Where did you see this?
So I bet that's going to shut Trump up.
He really nailed him.
Finally, that's nice that he said that, right?
But I'm going to notice there's a, I'm going to just keep looking.
And I want you to be, I want you to notice what word Chuck Todd never says, because I'm going to play the interview.
Just notice what word he does.
So he starts off, okay?
Hey, we all know this is that this didn't happen.
There were already reports saying it didn't happen.
Here's how Trump pushes back.
This didn't happen in New Jersey.
There were plenty of reports.
And you're dating a stereotype.
It did happen in New Jersey.
I have hundreds of people that agree with me.
And by the way, it's just like it's just a parody of many, many people.
I've got hundreds of people telling.
Many people of the top people on Twitter have said things.
Here, let's keep going.
So that's what everyone's pointing to.
Chuck Todd saying, just because people say it doesn't make it true.
And it's amazing how long it's taken him to push back like this, right?
So Donald Trump just goes right to the many, many people.
Here's where's more.
We're looking for other articles and we're looking for other clips.
And I wouldn't be surprised if we found him, Chuck.
But for some reason.
He wouldn't be surprised if they found him.
No, he would be fucking flummoxed if he found him.
What?
It really exists.
You got to be kidding me.
Are the detectives who investigated Obama's birth certificate in Hawaii that Trump hired?
Are they going to try to find the clip?
Because those guys are good.
Yes.
Oh, we don't have to go there.
We don't have to do that.
That's old news.
Come on, Frank.
That's old news.
There was plenty found.
All right, so there's more to be said.
Just because somebody repeats something doesn't make it true.
And I guess that's actually that's what I mean.
I don't mean I had two calls, Chuck.
Even yesterday, I was in Sarah's Florida and people were saying they lived in Jersey.
People were saying lower in Florida.
If I sent people there that Mr. Trump, if I said, well, people have said Mr. Trump's not worth $10 billion and people were saying, you would say that was crazy.
You wouldn't make a business based on retweets and based on a hearsay.
So it's interesting to watch Chuck Todd finally react like a human being, not even a reporter, just a human being to a guy who's literally just BSing him to his face on the phone.
It couldn't be more obvious BSing.
Couldn't be like, it's like a sixth grader lying to you.
I've got people calling me saying that happened.
It's like, I don't know if you saw that movie, The Spelling Bee, where the one kid misspelled the word and so he got out.
And in the documentary, there's three kids sitting around talking about the kid who misspelled it.
And they go, a lot of people think it was spelled that way.
Yeah, a lot of people.
It's exactly what Donald Trump does.
He does like what a sixth grader does.
A lot of people said they saw it.
I don't have, there's no evidence of it.
I'm a billionaire.
I have endless resources to find stuff like that.
But, you know, come on.
It was 2001.
Nobody had videotapes.
Well, I'm also, as I'm watching the clip too, you know, I get to see that Donald Trump, they have his picture superimposed, big grin on his face.
But then they have stars behind the image.
Which is all a bunch of bullshit that they're making this guy look presidential and important with this imagery behind him.
And he's just a liar.
And just I, it, okay, Chuck Todd is really going to corner him on this, but they're still going to pretend that the guy is a respectful, a respectable human being.
Yeah, he may be, he may be doing well on the polls, but someone who, if you have a news show and there's someone who always lies every time he comes on, you shouldn't be having him on your show anymore.
Hey, there's more to that discussion about Chuck Todd at his Donald Trump interview, but we're up against a break.
We'll be right back in one minute.
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We got a lot coming up in the second half.
Phone call from Jeb Bush coming up in the second half.
Well, right now, let's get back to the studio where I'm joined by Frank Connant from Mystery Science Theater 3000, Steph Semarano from the Miserable Liberal.
And we're talking about Chuck Todd's big pushback against Donald Trump's endless wall of BS, right?
So he's been lying nonstop ever since he's been in public life, but certainly in this presidential campaign.
And it seems like for some reason, Chuck Todd decided to push back on him, which is weird because he's been having him on his show for months without correcting him.
And most of the time agreeing with the misinformation he spews, certainly about immigrants.
But anyway, let's get back to our reaction about Chuck Todd's reaction to Donald Trump's lies.
I would agree with you.
And so here he is finally reacting like the normal frustration that a viewer feels watching the Chuck Todd show.
Now Chuck Todd is finally expressing a little bit of it.
It's funny that he can push back about Donald Trump's obvious BS about Muslims cheering in New Jersey.
It took him a lot.
It takes a lot of balls for Chuck to do that, finally.
But he won't do that against someone who comes on and denies science on his show.
He gives that person a nice platform.
It's just, well, that's your position.
Hey, maybe trickle-down economics does work.
Maybe supply-side economics is a thing that'll save us.
Hey, maybe global climate change is a hoax.
Who knows?
I don't know.
But thanks for coming on.
So it's weird that finally he's going to finally push back against Donald Trump because he wasn't doing that for the longest time.
We all know that.
He let him lie about immigrants, about Mexicans.
And actually, that other stuff is just as gigantic a lie as this was.
Yes, of course it is.
We know we have, there's negative immigration in America.
There's more Mexicans going back to Mexico than Mexicans coming into the country, right?
So again, and immigrants commit crime at a much lower rate than natural born citizens.
Chuck Todd let him say all that stuff.
And finally, this is weird.
Let's see what else he has to say.
Chuck, you have a huge Muslim population over there, and that's fine.
First of all, I love, that's like, that's like Steph's joke.
Steph, we were at a wedding one time, and this white woman said to Steph, Steph, you want to tell what happened?
Yeah, this woman, she's really nice.
She turns to me and she says, what are you?
And I said, I'm Mexican.
And she grabbed my hand and she goes, that's fine.
And that's what Donald Trump just said.
Listen.
You have a huge Muslim population over there and that's fine.
And that's fine.
He said it.
He said it.
You have a huge Muslim population over there and that's fine.
So now, so now, John Heilman and who's the good-looking young guy?
Willie Geist over at MSNBC.
Young Willie.
Matt Lauer in training.
Matt Lauer in training.
Looks fantastic.
Oh, I thought he was a Carson Daly in training.
Yeah.
So here, Donald Trump goes on, again, on the phone.
He's doing another TV interview on a phone.
And by the way, he lives like five blocks from 30 Rock.
Yes.
Yes.
Well, he lives close enough to see New Jersey, too.
Yes.
I pointed that out a couple weeks ago.
He had been on SNL in the same building the night before, and he couldn't be bothered to come back for the Meet the Press interview.
So here is here they here.
They asked Donald Trump, what's his general feeling about Muslims?
Do you think that Islam is an inherently peaceful religion?
That's been by some small percentage, as you just said, whatever the percentage is, perverted by some.
Or do you think that Islam is an inherently violent religion?
Well, all I can say, John, there's something going on.
There's something definitely going on.
I don't know that that question could be answered.
It could be answered two ways.
Yes, it could be answers both.
Yes, it could be answered both ways.
You see the hatred and the hatred is coming and coming and going both ways.
It's both ways.
It could be answered both ways.
But there's something going on there.
There's something that there's a lot of hatred coming out of at least a big part of it.
You see the hatred.
I mean, we see it every day.
You see the hatred.
The Muslims hate us.
They're at The hatred.
And right after that interview, Bill Maher offered him a writing job.
You know, and Trump had to cut that interview short, by the way, because he was late for his appearance on the Alex Jones show.
True.
That's a funny joke.
Oh, wait a minute.
It's not a joke.
He really did appear on the Alex Jones show.
And he'll at least get on the Skype for Alex Jones.
He won't get it.
He doesn't even, you don't even get a Skype with him when he does the Willie Geist and MSNBC or Chuck Todd.
just phones it in.
Alex Jones, he got on a I think he got on the Skype for Alex Jones.
I haven't seen it, but just the fact of anyone going on the Alan Alexander show.
The Alex Jones show, the Alex Jones show, right?
Who said the Sandy Hook shooting was a false flag?
Yes.
The craziest ideas out there.
And Donald Trump is on as an honored guest on his show.
And Trump is now, you know, he's now selling Make America Great Again hats, but they're made out of tin foil.
Okay.
So that's the Donald Trump.
So that's how Donald Trump gets covered.
That was Chuck Todd's big pushback to Donald Trump.
Let's just remember that with that.
There you go.
There you had it.
You got it.
And I don't think it would have happened if he was on his jet.
Here was the word.
No, because when he's on his jet, everybody agrees with him.
Here's the word you didn't hear Chuck Todd say.
You're lying.
We double-checked this.
We've triple-checked it.
The whole goddamn journalistic community has checked this, and we've concluded you're lying.
You're lying all the time.
You're a big liar.
And you're debasing the political discourse in America.
So please stop it.
And if you lie on my show, I'll call you a liar.
That word never came out of his mouth.
And at least he did push back.
I'll give it to him.
Wow, it's taken a long time.
That's what every Sunday show should be.
That's how it should be every Sunday.
You get somebody on, you know, they're full of it, and you confront them on it.
That's called meeting the press.
Right now, what they do is they're hanging out with the press.
It's a much different situation.
That's what every Son, you're supposed to be an advocate for the people, right?
You're supposed to be confrontational with the powerful.
And this is the only time it happens.
It takes the biggest race-baiting liar in the history of politics to get Chuck Todd to actually raise his voice on his Sunday show.
Yeah.
And even that, it was very mild pushback.
It was very mild.
Yeah, and he wants Trump back.
And Trump will go back.
Trump didn't, you know, I don't feel like Trump felt like he had a big confrontation.
I feel like Trump felt like he always does.
He just brushed him off his shoulder.
Yes.
No, Trump was, and they will.
And you can best believe he's going to have Trump back on and he'll have him on on the phone, which is fitting because Chuck Todd's been phoning it in for most of his career.
It's true.
It's true out of the two of them.
That's the odd thing.
Out of the two of them, Chuck Todd is the one who was phoning it in.
Out of the two of them, Chuck Todd is the one who was phoning it in.
So three people were murdered at a woman's health clinic in Colorado Springs, Colorado.
The clinic is part of a nonprofit organization that supplies health care for women, nonprofit organization, supplies health care for women.
The murderer was heard to say, no more baby parts.
Finally, a terrorist attack we can blame on a crappy video.
Where did the shooter get such ideas from?
Could it be from all the GOP presidential frontrunners in the entire mainstream corporate media?
Yes, a fraudulent, deceptive video was released by an anti-abortionist extremist portraying Planned Parenthood donating fetal tissue to medical research as selling baby parts.
Both Republican Party and the mainstream media has legitimized this lie, inflaming viewers with irresponsible rhetoric and agitating.
Here's the head of Planned Parenthood from Colorado, and here's what she thinks about the right-wing rhetoric.
We've experienced so much hateful language, hateful speech.
Such a negative environment has been created around the work that Planned Parenthood does.
I can't believe that this isn't contributing to some folks mentally unwell or not thinking that it's okay to target Planned Parenthood or to target abortion providers.
So that's what she said.
She's a lot of hateful rhetoric.
How could you not think that this led directly to it?
Here's what Mike Huckabee had to say.
Regardless of why he did it, what he did is domestic terrorism.
And what he did is absolutely abominable, especially to those of us in the pro-life movement, because there's nothing about any of us that would condone or in any way look the other way.
It's something like this.
So I don't know if you caught what he said there.
Do you know who's the most offended by this?
It's the people who are against abortion.
So again, he's the victim.
The right-wing and Christians who are anti-abortionists are the victim of this guy.
It's not the leftists.
It's not the feminists, right?
It's not the people at Planned Parenthood.
It's guys like him, the pro-life people, the anti-abortion people.
They're the real victims.
Here's what Carly Fiorina says about if right-wing rhetoric led to this shooting.
So what I would say to anyone who tries to link this terrible tragedy is right on, because that's exactly what's happening.
What would she say?
To anyone who opposes abortion or opposes the sale of body parts is this is typical left-wing tactics.
Any protesters should always be peaceful, whether it's Black Lives Matter or pro-life protesters.
Protesters should always be peaceful and respectful.
First of all, we're going to talk about this more in a second, but that is bull.
Because if what Carly Fiorina said was that they're selling baby parts, I saw them extract the brain out of a baby so they could sell it.
She dared Hillary Clinton to look at that tape.
She dared Hillary Clinton to look at that.
And if you really thought that was happening, would you be respectful to the people who are doing it?
Why would you be respect?
Would you go if you were going to protest, if you're going to protest the KKK or Nazis or whatever, would you do it respectfully?
So that's why you know that's BS.
They don't respect Planned Parenthood health care providers.
They don't want to.
They call them everything in the world.
They're terrorizing them, Right?
They're terrorizing them.
Here, there's a little bit more.
Here's a Washington Post journalist, Kathleen Parker.
Is that her name?
She's on with Chris Matthews.
Here we go.
And of course, Carly Fiorina did that sort of exaggerated description during one of the debates.
She can't even call it an exaggerated description.
Here's how she said, How did that affect you?
It was just too horrible.
I didn't even want to, I don't even really want to repeat it.
It's too horrible.
I don't want to repeat it.
It was an exaggeration.
Even it wasn't a lie.
Even she didn't blatantly lie to people, mislead people, incite people to violence.
It was so horrible that you don't even want to repeat it, but it wasn't a lie.
It was an exaggeration.
Again, it's just crazy to me that people have to do that on news shows.
And then Chris Matthews sits there and goes, you mean she lied?
No, he doesn't.
He doesn't say that.
Here's a little more.
Look, Chris, I think he obviously made a connection and went there to kill people.
So she says he obviously did make.
So here's a right-wing columnist for the Washington Post saying, yes, he did make.
But then she immediately seems to say the opposite because he says, well, why did he go there?
Well, I don't know why, and you don't either.
You just said you knew why.
She just said he made a connection and he went there to kill people who were killing babies.
And then Chris says, why?
Well, you don't know why.
I don't know why.
You just.
So now let's go around the horn and get some.
So we got Mike Huckabee's reaction.
We got Carly Fiorina's reaction.
Here's what Ted Cruz had to say.
Now, Ted Cruz, here we go.
I will say it's unfortunate to see so many folks in the press bending over backwards to try to use this horrible crime to advance a political agenda.
This man is a despicable murderer, and he should be punished to the full extent of the law.
But none of that changes the reality that Planned Parenthood is in the business of buying and selling the body parts of unborn children.
None of that changes the reality that Planned Parenthood was caught on video, apparently committing a pattern of felony.
So there you go.
Hey, guess what, though?
Was he being interviewed when he said this?
He was being interviewed somewhere, like not in his TV studio, but no one was there to say actually they don't do that.
They don't sell baby parts.
No.
He actually, he went on to refer.
I can't believe I don't have it.
Maybe I have it here.
Is this it?
So I can't believe I don't have the tape of him.
He said he was a transgender leftist.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
That's right.
So Ted always has all the facts with him when he chimes in.
Yes.
Well, he's based that on the fact that there was a clerical error on his voter ID card.
That's what happens.
And it should be understandable.
It should be an understandable mistake since Ted Cruz accidentally marked the census that he's a Christian.
So we can see how we can make those mistakes.
And by the way, Ted Cruz should go a little easy on throwing around that transgender accusation.
You know, at his last press conference, he looked like he was wearing more lipstick than Joan Crawford.
So here, again, we go back to our right-wing Washington Post reporter, and Chris Matthews presses her.
So he could have gotten the idea as a reasonable viewer.
No, no, no, he's not a reasonable person.
He's not a reasonable person.
But a reasonable person could have gotten Tim Brand on that video.
Absolutely.
So she's, again, she's saying two things at once.
Chris Matthews says, well, a reasonable person who hears Carly Fiorona and watches that edited video, reasonable person can make the conclusion they're killing babies and selling baby parts, right?
And she said, yes.
And then most people don't go out and shoot people because of it.
But let's listen to it again.
No, no, no.
He's not a reasonable person.
He's not a reasonable person.
But a reasonable person could have gotten Tim Bram on that video.
Absolutely.
But most people don't go out and shoot people because of it.
So let's break that down because you hear that a lot.
Sure, most people don't go out and shoot people because of that.
Well, why wouldn't you?
That's the next logical step.
If you really think there's a place where they're killing babies and then selling their body parts for profit, how do you not pick up a gun?
How do you not get round up people in your neighborhood to go in there and stop, stop this baby killing factory?
If you believe that, because that's what those people are saying.
That's what they believe.
You think, hey, that's that baby killing factory.
I'd like to do something, but you know, I got to be respectful.
That doesn't make any sense.
So what they're saying is they're speaking out of both sides of their mouth.
And by the way, he's deranged.
He's not a Christian.
He didn't do this because of his beliefs.
And even though he said no more baby parts, even though it's exactly what the right wing has been stirring up, it's not, he's not a Christian terrorist.
It's got nothing to do with Christianity.
This guy says it.
It's like, no, no, he looks like us, and I'm not like that.
So he must be mental.
The difference between a terrorist and a deranged lone wolf is the color of his skin.
Exactly.
That is really it.
And you know, if you take what anti-abortion people, if you take their position to its logical extreme, then all abortionists should go to jail and they should get the death penalty because they are committing murder as far as those people are concerned.
Yeah, and why would you even give lip service to the fact that you're supposed to be respectful of baby murderers?
Why would you even say that?
Because you don't believe it yourself.
They don't believe it themselves.
They know they're not killing babies.
They know they're not selling baby parts for profit.
That's why they don't get upset themselves.
That's why they don't go shoot them themselves.
Believe me, if there was a place where they were killing babies, I'd go shoot them.
I'd go.
They're not.
And they know they're not.
That's why they don't do it.
But then they prey on the people the most easily influenced, the person most on the edge, the most easily deranged person who can just need that one little push.
As George Carlin said, you know, that guy who's just about to end his life.
And then as a Christmas gift, somebody gets a mouthwash.
You know what I mean?
And that's what they're doing.
So that's, I just want to make that point.
The right wing doesn't really believe what they're saying about Planned Parenthood because if they did, they'd all be in there shooting the place up.
And, you know, the worst thing that could happen to the right wing would be if Roe v.
Wade got repealed because all it's been to them has been a huge fundraising thing.
If they did actually end abortion, it would be devastating to the right wing because they wouldn't know how to raise money anymore.
Oh, what would they do?
Well, they would have to do.
We got to keep it illegal.
There's a lot of people who want to still kill their babies.
That's what they would do.
And by the way, you'll never hear the term in America, radical Christianity.
You're never going to hear that term.
You'll never hear a radical Christian terrorist.
You'll never hear it.
They just don't, no matter how many people they kill.
Am I wrong about this, Frank?
No, you're completely, they are radical.
But if it's Christianity, it's not at its base an evil religion the way the Muslim religion is because a lot of Christians have white skin.
And just and just for the record, record, during this time when the GOP and the media were capitalizing on the fake scandal of the Planned Parenthood videos, there has been arson attacks on Planned Parenthood clinics in Thousand Oaks, California, Pullman, Washington, Aurora, Illinois, New Orleans, Louisiana, and now Colorado Springs.
And then there were five attacks along those lines the same week as the Planned Parenthood shooting.
Yes.
The news media didn't do their job.
Well, the news media, by the way, that happened, I think, on a Friday, the Planned Parenthood shooting Sunday morning, faced the nation, had two questions about it, and spent most of the show talking about how we need to bomb ISIS.
CNN, during the act of still shooting, we still don't know.
They brought on people who were critical of Planned Parenthood and still believed in those videos.
They brought them on to talk about it as it was happening.
Right.
And they also, right after there was a development where they were arrested the guy or whatever, CNN cut to its documentary, The 60s, which was a rerun.
And MSNBC went to lock up reruns.
Lock up prison reruns.
Yeah.
Fantastic.
You know, the fact that it was a white guy just made it completely uninteresting to the media.
Completely uninteresting.
If there was a chance that guy was a Muslim or an LGBTQ.
It would have been on Fox 24-7.
24-7.
Oh, he's one of our.
So we don't really care about terrorism in America.
We don't really care about gun violence in America.
We don't care about innocent people getting killed.
When I say we don't care about it, I mean, we don't ever do anything about it.
But as soon as there might be a chance that, oh, as soon as some Muslims kill some people in another country across the ocean, we immediately close our borders.
Yeah.
We immediately freak out.
Oh, my God.
We can't let Syrians in.
We can.
We got to register the Muslims.
Hey, there's another guy killed 12 people in California today.
What are you going to do?
What are we going to do?
How did you say that?
All of the Republican candidates tried to be the first one to shrug their shoulders.
Yes.
So how did you say it about the people who got killed today in San Bernardino?
They got what?
Oh, they got second amended to death.
They got second amended to death.
People saying they're murdered.
We should be saying that they have been second amended to death.
Every day, thousands or hundreds of people are second amended.
You know, if that language changed, I think people might realize how damaging that fucking amendment is.
Yeah, there you go.
That's me.
I'd like the Second Amendment is head off.
You know, the Second Amendment is so important to gun nuts, which is why they allow them to have assault muskets.
Ha!
Yeah.
Ha, ha.
A quick word to the Jimmy Dorschel listeners in the UK.
Jerry Corbyn's sanity has made the media insane.
The constant attacks by the press on Corbyn has made people so dizzy, they think electing a man of integrity is the biggest disaster to befall the Labor Party.
If the media spent half as much scrutiny to the proposed Syrian bombings by the government in power than they do to the inner workings of the Labor Party, maybe these bombings would not be happening.
As we go to tape, the Syrian bombings has a majority vote of 174.
In Cameron's austerity Britain, he could still find money laying around for war.
While the media is obsessing over conflicts in the Corbyn cabinet, Cameron is able to waltz the UK into more killing.
Cameron shamelessly warned MPs not to side with, quote, terrorist sympathizers, end quote.
David Cameron hates terrorist sympathizers.
He prefers personally selling weapons to terrorists rather than sending sympathy cards.
There's been no plausible case for the Syrian bombings, except the vague promise of emotional catharsis over the Paris attacks.
Last year, Cameron wanted to topple the Shia government by arming Sunni radicals.
Now he wants to bomb Sudi radicals.
Clearly, Cameron has a handle on matters in Syria.
The military involvement in the Middle East is endless and pointless.
Every bomb we drop maybe kills five people and radicalizes 50 more.
You can bet the media will be blaming Corbyn for not preventing the Tories preventing themselves from preventing peace.
But let's be optimistic.
This Syrian bombing will change everything.
Labor polling shows overwhelming numbers of labor voters oppose the bombings in Syria.
In approving a free vote for the MPs, it appears that Corbyn foolishly trusted democracy to play out.
The labor MPs who backed the Syrian bombings should be voted out of the party.
Before the blood can be washed away from the Labour Party, voters need to wash away the pro-war Blairites from the Labour Party.
This is Jeb.
Hey, Jeb.
This is Jimmy Doerr.
Oh, hey there, Jimbo.
How the heck are you?
I'm good, Governor.
Thanks for asking, buddy.
How are you?
Oh, you know, doing well.
Doing real good.
Just checking my privilege and whatnot.
What?
You're doing what?
Actually, yeah, I'm not sure I'm doing that.
I'm not sure I used that phrase right.
The point being, though, Jimmy, I'm kind of dipping my toe at a minimum into talking about woman stuff.
Oh, yeah?
Yeah, a lot of voters are women.
I'm not sure if you knew that or not.
I actually, I did know that.
And a lot of women care deeply about a lot of issues that affect families, working people, as well as issues that affect women specifically.
Wow.
Governor, I got to tell you, I'm surprised you or any Republican, for that matter, could recognize that.
Oh, absolutely.
And I'm sort of kicking off this womanly phase of my campaign by hinting, as I did the other day, that I will be selecting a female running mate if nominated.
Did you see that, Jimmy?
Yeah, I did.
Did you see it?
Yes, yes, Governor.
Did you see me say the woman thing?
Yes.
Pretty knee, huh?
I suppose.
A very historical moment.
Can you imagine a female running mate for president?
Yes, that's happened twice in recent history alone.
Yeah, someone told me about that.
And I'm just going to go ahead and act like I'm the first guy.
Do you have anyone specific in mind?
No, actually, I don't at all, which kind of makes me think that my mouth may have written a check that Matukas can't cash here.
But if this becomes a reality, of course, you know, we'll find somebody.
We'll see you next time.
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