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Get ready for an outstanding entertainment program, the Jimmy Dore Show.
This week we celebrated Thanksgiving, or as it's now known, Black Friday Eve.
For me, the end of November always comes with mixed feelings.
On the one hand, I'm depressed that the year is over so soon.
But on the other hand, now that's pretty much how I feel.
Very little gets done between Thanksgiving and New Year's Day unless you consider drinking an accomplishment, which I'm starting to.
Here in Los Angeles, the holidays bring slightly cooler weather and an uneasy sense of having one last year in which to make it in show business.
With Thanksgiving, our thoughts return again and again to the importance of family, no matter how much we try to think of something else.
That's why millions of people can't wait for dinner to be over so they can go shopping.
It's easy to forget as we wander across the world with our own private concerns and agendas that the point of everything may possibly just be money.
Anyway, that would explain why, for some of us, this time of year feels empty and meaningless.
Because it is.
Nice.
It's the Jimmy Dore Show.
The show for...
...up-minded, lowly-livered lefties.
The kind of people that are...
It's the show that makes Anderson Cooper save.
It's hard to talk to you, TV.
And now, here's a guy who sounds a lot like me.
It's Jimmy Goff.
Hi, everybody.
Welcome to this week's show.
I am joined on the Skype all the way from New York City.
You know him from Mystery Science Theater 3000.
It's TV's Frank.
Frank Connoff is here.
Hey, Frank.
Hello, for there.
Yay, good to hear your voice.
Frank, you've got some gigs coming up, correct?
Trace Liu and I are going to be doing our live show, The Mads for Mystery Science Theater, doing a live movie riff.
We're appearing live for two shows at the Ivory Theater in St. Louis on Saturday, December 12th.
So go to frankconniff.com for all your information about that.
If you're in St. Louis, we'd hope to see you there.
Also with us, the miserable liberal from the Miserable Liberal blog.
You know where you love her.
She's our resident Latina.
It's Steph Zamarano.
Hey, Steph, how are you?
I'm doing great, Jimmy.
I'm still here.
Yay.
All right.
It's good to hear your voice.
Let's get to the jokes before we get to the jokes, shall we?
Hey, I don't know.
Maureen Dowd just did a big column about sexism in Hollywood.
And I don't know about you, but I hope writing about sexism in Hollywood didn't distract Maureen Dowd from her constant disparaging of Hillary Clinton for not being feminine enough.
That's right, Frank.
It's true.
It's a true story.
This is a real thing.
Hey, did you hear Elizabeth Hasselbeck is leaving Fox and Friends and Friends and Friends?
No.
Yes, Elizabeth Hasselbeck's exit from Fox and Friend, it leaves a void that won't be filled until immediately when someone just as awful as her takes over.
Hey, did you hear Trump and Carson?
They both say that they saw a film of American mum Muslims cheering during 9-11 while the buildings were falling down.
Yep, they said they saw film of American Muslims cheering after 9-11, a film that does not exist.
And I think they should tell us if Star Wars 8 is any good.
That's what I'm waiting for.
You know, Donald Trump, the beauty about Donald Trump is he appeals not just to a narrow demographic, but to a wide range of white supremacist groups.
True.
That is very true.
You know, it's odd that Trump is known for building giant skycrap.
It's odd that Trump is known for building giant skyscrapers, yet he wants to turn our entire country into a trailer park.
Don Trump, Don Trump.
You know, it's a complex world out there, rife with danger and terror.
So a guy like Donald Trump with no specific solutions is needed now more than ever.
Am I right?
Yes.
Hey, we got a lot coming up on today's show.
What's coming up?
We're going to talk about Donald Trump and his and Ben Carson's vision of Muslims cheering in the United States as the Twin Towers fell.
Plus, we get a look by Lawrence O'Donnell into what really goes through the minds of Sunday news journalists.
Yes, it's pretty, well, the answer just may surprise you, or will it?
Plus, the 9-11 first responders health care bill has lapsed since October 1st.
We're going to talk about that.
Plus, we got our greatest hits, phone calls today.
We go back into the vault to see what our celebrities were doing this time last year.
Plus, a lot lot more.
That's today on The Jimmy Dore.
The Jimmy Dore.
So Donald Trump's been tearing it up lately.
And if you think it couldn't have got any crazier or worser, it did.
But he knows he can lie.
Here's Donald Trump's latest lie.
Ready?
I watch when the World Trade Center came tumbling down.
And I watch in Jersey City, New Jersey, where thousands and thousands of people were cheering as that building was coming down.
Thousands of people were cheering.
That is demonstrably non-true.
That's Chris Hayes there jumping in there.
That is demonstrably not true.
So that's what Donald Trump has been saying, right?
So he said that.
Then our favorite on the campaign trail reporter, Katie Tour, the hot Luke Russert.
The very hot Luke Russert.
Yeah, she's very attractive.
And she's very affable, just like Luke.
And they both look like they come from.
And she does a good job, like Luke, of just repeating people's talking poems.
Yeah, whatever people tell her.
Yeah.
Yeah, whatever people tell her, she'll definitely repeat it.
So here's, again, here's the thing.
You know what?
I do like my news given to me by Katie Tur.
I do too.
I don't know what's not to like.
So here's what she does.
She's going to repeat some stuff that Trump told her on the phone, ready?
About that, about the Muslims in New Jersey cheering the Twin Towers.
He also told me that he did see it on television.
I asked him repeatedly where he saw this video, Alex.
I said, give me one place you saw this video.
He said he couldn't remember, but he does know he did see it because he told me he has what he calls the world's greatest memory.
Okay, so Frank, I don't know if you caught that.
Donald Trump knows he saw it because as he told Katie Tour, he has the world's greatest memory.
He just can't remember where he saw it.
The thousands and thousands of people.
The key piece of information.
Where would you have seen this?
Well, that must be a really easy search engine to find.
It must be.
You could just do Alexis Nexus.
I'm sure you'd find it all over the place.
No, turns out that because it doesn't exist because it's not true.
You know, Ben Carson, he also said that he saw.
Yeah, here's what he says about it.
Did you see that happening, though, on 9-11?
I saw the film of it and So he said also that he saw the Muslims cheering.
So someone just asked him, did you actually see it?
Here we go.
In New Jersey on it, yes.
Just to follow up on my question of 9-11, and you say you saw the film.
What film are you referring to?
Where did you go?
The newsreels.
The news coverage from the time of 9-11.
Correct.
But just our.
So that was.
The newsreels.
What was the, was it the 40s when he saw it?
The newsreels.
Yeah, yeah, the newsreels.
So here's what Ben Carlson.
It must have.
So here's Ben Carson.
Hey, newsreel.
Muslims cheer in New Jersey as the Twin Towers call.
So, but here's what he said right after that.
So he's at a news press conference.
They ask him about it.
He said, I've seen the newsreels.
And then his campaign released this immediately.
After making that statement, Carson's campaign walked it back, saying, Dr. Carson does not stand by the statements that were reported today.
He was hearing and thinking something differently at the time.
He was hearing and thinking something different.
I was hearing what I heard.
I thought what you were saying was, have you ever seen a news film?
That's what I thought you were saying.
And then I stabbed a news film in a belt buckle once.
A little different.
It's hard also to remember stuff that happened around 9-11 because it wasn't really a very memorable time.
It's not the kind of thing that's stuck in people's heads.
No, no, it's right.
It's like, I don't even remember where I was.
Do you remember where you were?
You know what?
I don't even remember the newsreels that I watched.
I don't remember the newsreels I watched.
I can't remember.
I don't know.
Maybe they were Muslims.
Maybe they were Armenians.
Who knows?
You know, hey God, he's got.
Go ahead.
I remember the newsreel.
I don't remember the newsreel I watched, but I do remember the Bugs Bunny cartoon I saw before God with the Wind came on.
So Ben Carson's statement, there's a little bit more to it.
He does, however, recall and had his mind focused on the celebrations in the Middle East.
He is not suggesting that American Muslims were in New Jersey celebrating the fall of the Twin Towers.
So that's what Ben.
So that's what Ben Carson had to say.
Wait, can I hear Ben Carson one more time, though?
I loved his response being so like.
Do you want to hear it?
Okay.
Yeah.
Just to follow up on my question of 911.
You say you saw the film.
What film are you referring to?
Where do you think?
The newsreels.
The news coverage from the time of 9-11.
Correct.
Okay.
The newsreels.
The news.
He literally says newsreels.
Okay.
So here is Katie Tour.
Let's go back to her coverage.
And she's got a little bit more to say about Donald Trump that she talked to on the phone.
Donald Trump said he has the world's greatest memory, so he knows he saw it.
Just can't remember where.
And what else did he say, Katie?
So said he's seen it since on YouTube.
He said he might have seen it.
He said he's seen it since on YouTube.
Well, that should be easy to find then if it's on YouTube.
You go to YouTube and it's there.
It doesn't go away.
We've seen it on Fox 5 in New York City.
He also said that a number of people have been tweeting him, telling him that he was right, then they saw it too.
That's the old Donald Trump.
Many, many people are telling me they saw it.
Many, many people are twins.
There's a lot of people who don't believe that birth certificate.
Many, many people don't believe that.
If there were people cheering the Twin Towers Falling in New Jersey and there was clips of it that he saw on Channel 5, I would think that everybody else would have remembered seeing those two.
Yeah, don't you?
Yeah.
Why is it just Donald Trump that remembers this thing that didn't happen?
Because also, when you consider that it was who was in office at the time, who was president, who was mayor of New York at the time, that that wouldn't have been the biggest news story on top of the big news story of 9-11, and that they would have created a new color for the terror alert if that had happened.
And they would constantly be referring to that videotape for why they were.
It would be seen more than a law and order rerun by now.
Yes, yes.
That would be the most watched piece of videotape since the 9-11 Twin Towers falling.
So here she got a little bit more of what Donald Trump had to say, his denial.
He's definitely not backing away from these claims whatsoever.
He even mentioned Ben Carson, who he's accused of being a liar in the past.
He said Ben Carson is defending him because he saw that video.
Of course, as we've mentioned, Ben Carson walked back his own claim today saying that he was confusing New Jersey with the Middle East.
Come on, who doesn't consider it?
So Ben Carson was often, a lot of times, I'm in Jersey City, and I'm like, wait, wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
Is this Takira Swear?
Where am I?
I can't.
And it's amazing to me that these people on cable TV, they spend all day talking about the lies that Trump says, and they talk about them as if they're just a good stuff.
Yeah, they talk about him as just like, well, today's lie was this, but he's a great guy.
I love Donald Trump.
Well, let's not forget that, you know, they reached out to Katie Tour because they were looking for a journalist who would be subjective.
I'm sorry, the Trump campaign.
I'm sure.
So then he goes on with George Snuffleup against Donald Trump.
And also, before you go into it, I'll just remind everyone that, and this is crazy to me, that like every Sunday interview he ever does, it's him on the phone.
Again, that's what I was going to say.
He's on the phone.
Again, no one else is allowed to not come in and secretaries of state never were on the phone.
In the history of Sunday shows, which goes back to Meet the Press starting in 1948, I believe, was when Meet the Press started, hosted by Lawrence Bivak.
It's always been the guests, the newsmakers come on the show, or they don't have them on the show.
Trump is the first one that they just let call in, as if he's the most important person in American history.
It is a weird thing.
There's no doubt that it's a weird thing.
And it's just, there's no stopping it.
And I wonder.
And by the way, I haven't seen anyone else get away with doing it.
That you?
They would rather take his phone call than have Bernie Sanders be live.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Bernie Sanders will come in and discuss stuff with them anytime he wants or they want, and they never have him on, but they'll have Donald Trump do a phoner.
So here he is doing his phoner with George Snuffalupagus.
And George tries to ask him about his Muslim statement that they were cheering.
And let's listen.
This is a guy just blatantly lying.
Ready?
Here we go.
Did you make this?
I saw it.
I saw that with your own eyes.
George, at least they did.
There were people that were cheering in the other side of New Jersey where you have large Arab Populations.
They were cheering as the World Trade Center came down.
Now, first of all, I don't know.
I've heard a lot of reckless statements.
Even the one about Mexicans being rapists and stuff.
This is even more reckless than that one.
This one, I mean, this at some point, the news media should get together and go, hey, we're not going to cover Donald Trump anymore.
Well, I mean, it's so reckless and so racist and so over the top that I hear he's going to host SNL again.
I mean, this is, I don't know what to say, Bob.
This is literally the most race-baiting, inciting hatred, whipping up.
This is, you know, defew kind of stuff.
This is the most coveted newsmaker on television.
They all are jumping all over themselves to get him to phone into their shows.
To phone in.
Okay, so here he's got more to say with George Snuffelopagus.
I know it might be not politically correct for you to talk about it, but there were people cheering as that building came down.
So it's not politically correct.
Did you hear what he's saying?
It's not politically correct to point out that what you're saying is a lie.
It's a lie.
Never happened.
It is interesting.
It is interesting, though, that he can still be a racist phoning it in.
Phoning it in.
And George doesn't hang up on him.
He doesn't go, you know what?
We just can't have this crap anymore on our show.
The only journalist who ever treated Trump the way he should be treated was Jorge Ramos at that press conference.
And Megan Kelly.
And Megan Kelly.
And Megan Kelly, yes.
Yeah, and Megan Kelly.
And so, you know, at what point do you go?
I mean, if he was saying that, if just insert Jews or insert blacks, would you let him say that?
Or would you just go, okay, we're going to end the interview right here?
Yeah, yeah.
People cheering as that building came down, as those buildings came down.
And that tells you something.
It was well covered.
And that tells you something.
What does that tell you?
That Muslims are bad.
That's what he's saying, right?
And that tells you something.
And George doesn't go, what does that tell you?
That would be my next question.
What does that tell you?
What are you saying?
So he's allowed to dance all around it without actually saying the words, right?
And guys like George Nuffelopagus, let him here.
He's got more.
At the time, George.
Now, I know they don't like to talk about it, but it was well covered at the time.
There were people over in New Jersey that were watching it, a heavy Arab population that were cheering as the buildings came down.
Not good.
As I said, the police have said it didn't happen.
Well, I'm going to move on right now.
So that's all he pushes back as he says, well, again, the police say it didn't happen.
I'm going to move on.
He shouldn't say the police say it didn't happen.
He should just say it didn't happen.
It didn't happen.
We've checked this.
That's a lot.
But they can't.
Again, he has to be neutral.
He has to say somebody else said it didn't happen.
Come on, we all know.
And did it really not happen?
I don't know.
I guess we'll never know.
The cops say it didn't happen.
Donald Trump says it did happen.
Thanks for the debate.
I guess we'll never know.
Jimmy, how is George going to be invited to Donald Trump's next party?
Exactly.
How is he going to get a free helicopter ride?
So here's Lawrence O'Donnell.
So Lawrence O'Donnell decides to talk about this.
And here's what he says about George Nuffilopagus' interview with Donald Trump.
Donald Trump knows that George can't tell his audience that Trump is lying there because the industry convention of Sunday morning political chat is that they never call a lie a lie.
That's just too impolite for Sunday mornings.
Really?
So when someone comes on your newsmaker show, Meet the Press, what an ominous name, Meet the Press.
And so when you lie, we don't ever say anything.
We just let it go by because it's impolite.
You know, it's really, it's called Meet.
It's called Meet Miss Manners is what it really is on Sunday.
What a bullshit thing he's saying.
Right.
And I might also point out that there have been big, powerful people who've been called out on their lies on Sunday shows.
Like, for instance, Dennis Rodman was called out by David Gregory.
So there is a precedent for it.
And by the way, Dennis Rodman is not as horrible a person as Donald Trump is.
Yes, not at all.
I remember even George Snuffalopagus, he called out Dennis Rodman.
Remember that he said, hey, the next time you go meet the leader of North Korea, why don't you give him this UN report on human rights?
And I was like, hey, hey, next time you go to Donald Rumsfeld house for Christmas, why don't you bring him this human rights report on the torture, you freaking hypocrite?
Yeah.
So that's what he says.
That's why it's too impolite.
That's why everybody gets to lie on Sunday.
What a ringing endorsement.
But then he says that, but then Lawrence O'Donnell actually goes on to tell the truth, which I don't know why he bothered with the lie if you were going to tell the truth anyway.
So here's the truth that Lawrence O'Donnell says.
But it's not just politeness at work.
Donald Trump gets good ratings on these shows.
And if one of the hosts tells Trump he is lying in the middle of an interview, that host will never get a chance to interview Donald Trump again, but his competitors will.
Okay, so that's the real reason.
Why did you say it's impolite?
It's impolite to correct people.
No, no, the reason why they don't correct facts or lies on Sunday news shows and they let BS, they serve it up on a platter.
The reason that is, is because they want those people to come back on because they think it gets them ratings.
Yeah.
Even though the Sunday news shows don't get any ratings, they're convinced that if they correct John McCain on his BS, somehow he won't come back on their show and that will somehow hurt their ratings.
No one's tuning in to see any of these people.
The only thing that they're right about is maybe people are tuning in to see Donald Trump because for whatever reason, it's like a car wreck.
People watch it.
Right.
Yeah, people will, I guess, are excited by seeing a picture of Donald Trump as his voice comes in over the phone.
That's what's known as good TV.
That's what's known as good TV.
So here's what here's now Lawrence O'Donnell goes on a little further because the New York Times wrote it up saying that, well, let's listen.
The time has come for Donald Trump's TV interviewers to tell him that he is lying as soon as he floats his next lie on TV.
If they don't.
If they don't, I will ignore it because I'm not going to call him out because they're all my friends.
And we all hang out at the same parties.
Right?
If they don't, you know they're not going to.
What are you talking about if they don't, Lawrence?
If they don't, you know they're not going to.
Here, let's listen to what else he has to say.
They risk becoming accomplices of a lying demagogue.
He said if they don't call him out, they risk becoming accomplices.
They risk it as if it hasn't happened months ago.
Lawrence, your channel has been airing Donald Trump's speeches unedited live for months.
And his press conferences.
And his press conferences for months.
Who are you pointing the finger at?
Exactly.
So This is like this.
This is a weird segment.
He like half tells the truth, and then he half does this weird thing.
I don't understand.
He tells the truth dishonestly.
It's like he's telling.
It's almost like that, right?
So here he's got more to say.
Yeah.
And it's editorial today about Donald Trump's lies.
Okay, Harry, here he is.
Here he's talking about New York Times.
New York Times issued this challenge to Donald Trump's interviewers.
History teaches that failing to hold a demagogue to account is a dangerous act.
It's no easy task for journalists to interrupt Mr. Trump with facts, but it's an important one.
Yeah, and but they won't.
So the New York Times now is upset with the reporters.
I wonder what Mark Halpert has to say about it.
You know, the guy who was sitting on Donald Trump's lap and tweeting out Bloomberg news, tweeting out pictures, right?
Yeah.
I wonder.
I wonder how he feels about the New York Times editorial.
I wonder if Lawrence O'Donnell is going to call out Joe Scarborough when he interviews him on the phone.
I wonder.
That's not a Sunday morning show.
And that's that's that's your show four hours every morning on your own network.
And they get Donald Trump on the phone all the time and they let him lie.
And by the way, you know, it's so crazy that, you know, that this latest lie that Donald Trump is about seeing the footage of them cheering 9-11, like now he's suddenly gone over the line with his lying.
And as if it's a suddenly it's a news story that he lies, whereas nobody ever challenged him about those two detectives who found incredible things in Hawaii when they investigated Obama's birth certificate.
One of the most blatant lies ever.
And no one has ever challenged him on it.
And they can't believe what they're finding.
Yeah.
Hang on, let me get can't believe what they're finding.
Obviously, it's a lie.
He either didn't have detectives there, or if he did, they found nothing because Obama released his long-form birth certificate right around the same time.
There was nothing to find, which was obvious from the start.
And yet he's just given a pass on that.
And he's been given a pass on all these other lies.
And now it seems like suddenly the New York Times and the Washington Post are saying we have to start confronting Trump about his lies as if it's a story that just started this week.
Yes, like this, this has been going on for the entire time, for the entire campaign, for the entire time Donald Trump's been in public life.
I mean, he chased around the president for four years asking for his long-form birth certificate.
He went on Wolf Blitzer.
He went on every place and said you cannot well hear.
Tell us what your people who were investigating in Hawaii, what they found.
We don't have to go into old news.
That's old news.
Well, what it is.
Von Plenty found.
You can call many people.
You can read many, many articles on the authenticity of the certificate.
Okay, so Wolf Blitzer, the only guy, Wolf Blitzer, the only guy to hold his feet to the fire.
And that's all we got out of him.
Tell us what your people who were investigating in Hawaii, what they found.
We don't have to go into old news.
That's old news.
Well, what is Von Plenty found?
Okay, there are many, many people.
It's that same lie again.
It's that many, many.
And this is the guy.
And this was that interview took place like way before he ran for president.
Oh, that interview probably took place two or three years ago.
Yes.
And so as we look back at it now, we can see with historical perspective that this man, who is obviously an incredible liar, is going to dominate the 2016 election and is going to be allowed to come on every cable news show and lie as often as he wants without being challenged.
That leads us to our next story about Politico.
But we'll be right back.
Jimmy Door, it is I, Bill O'Reilly.
Might want to wish you were yours a joy.
It's Black Friday.
I want to hear you pinheads with your Black Friday isn't a real holiday.
That atheist Bolshevik hospital doesn't fly with Naomi Goldberg or Riley Son.
Okay.
Black Friday commemorates the day the pilgrims got great bargains on Indian land for the Lord's Miracle smallpox.
And yes, just as today, many of those pilgrims died when the mall opened that first Black Friday.
Of course, back then they died of starvation and disease.
Well, today we symbolically killed them through trampling or hitting them with the blender at 60% off.
And by symbolically, I mean literally.
Now, you might say, Bill, why do we have to kill people on Black Friday?
And I would just say, who knows?
God is just like that.
He moves in mysterious ways.
He demands a few people die of internal bleeding at the mouth of a Walmart.
The rest of us can get incredible savings on flat screens and panini makers.
As it's traditional.
Last night, I took a crap on the sidewalk in front of a Best Buy and got in a screaming match with an Armenian lady, just as our forefathers did.
Thus begins the baby Jesus' long trip out of the whole uterus.
Back in old days, we tracked all the stations of Mary Super Painful Labor.
Christmas Eve used to be called Crowning Day.
We'd all wear red turtlenecks like our heads.
We're just coming out of the Marys.
But JJ, these are all true things.
I'm Bill O'Reilly, and that's one to grow on.
Okay.
Wow.
I never heard of Crown Day.
Did you?
Crowning.
No, that's very educational.
That's fantastic.
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We'll be right back in one minute.
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Now let's get back to the second half.
Now let's get back to the second half.
Welcome back to the second half of the Jimmy Doors show.
We got a lot coming up in the second half.
Right now, let's get to a phone call we got around Thanksgiving two years ago from the president Barack Obama when he was having some trouble with the rollout of the website for Barack for Obamacare.
So this was two years ago from around Thanksgiving, and he was talking about the problem with the rollout with Obamacare's website.
Hey, Jimmy, Barry Obama call.
Just want to wish you and stuff a happy Thanksgiving.
Believe me, I'm looking forward to sitting down to some bomb pardoned turkey with Michelle and the girls, watching some football, trying to forget for a few hours how the whole world has cleared itself right on my ass.
What the hell?
Did you see that Ohio poll?
What am I?
34% approval rating?
That's a big story now.
Americans don't trust me anymore.
Right.
Hey, since about 2008, 20% of them think I'm going to steal their wallet.
Who gives a sh ⁇ ?
You think I'm about to get impeached for saying 95% of y'all are going to keep your goddamn health insurance?
95%.
Jimmy, you know, and I know, I've lied about way worse things than that.
Come on, everybody.
Have some perspective.
I don't like to call the American people stupid ass, but holy shit.
I'm not even allowed to get mad, which is why I call you when I'm false so nobody ever finds out.
I got to keep my anger bottled up until at least 2017, like those secret JFK files.
I know you think I'm a sellout, Jimmy, but even you admit I'm getting with on a daily basis.
What's all this hysteria over a goddamn website?
Have you ever had trouble buying Springsteen tickets?
I think he's overrated too, Jimmy.
But my point is about the goddamn website or somebody's ass health plan that got canceled.
And everybody knows that.
I took this job to try to help people.
Don't get it, Jimmy.
But now I'm starting to hate him.
Did you see that kid heckling me about immigration the other day?
In San Francisco, of all places.
What the hell was that about?
Some of the bitches heckling me from behind.
And this little shad is telling me I should let his people go like I'm some goddamn Moses over here.
Why don't I perform some miracles for y'all?
Like pardon the Red Sea, turn water into wine, pass single payer.
You think it's easy being the head of the Democratic Party right now?
Why do they call them Democrats?
Why don't they just call them a bunch of chickens?
Can't fight for a goddamn principle.
Hell, these aren't even Democratic principles we're fighting for.
These are Republican principles.
And you can't even fight for the other guy's principles.
Anyway, Jimmy, enjoy your weekend.
I gotta go.
I need a cigarette.
you You Thank you.
Okay, let's get back to the studio and join our discussion with Steph Samurano from the Miserable Liberal blog and from Mystery Science Theater 3000.
It's TV's Frank Frank Conniff is with us.
Let's get back to the studio right now.
So I don't know, you know, we've talked about Politico before on this show, and it's an example of mainstream journalism, even though it's on the internet.
It doesn't do anything the internet news does, which is take advantage of the internet and independence and actually tell the truth to the people.
It doesn't do that.
They don't do that at Politico.
Politico is a wet.
It's if the Koch brothers and General Electric got together to make a news magazine, that's kind of like, right.
I mean, it actually was founded by a bunch of right-wing money men, right?
Yeah, it's the epicenter of Inside the Beltway conventional wisdom.
Yes, that's a good way to put it.
So, and their head guy is Mike Allen.
Right.
He's Politico's chief White House correspondent, Mike Allen, who has hosted neoconservative events in the past.
Yes.
So he is, he made waves because he wrote a column where he was pissed off about the softball interviews that Obama got.
And I'll quote, this is him.
The super safe softball interview is an Obama specialty.
The kid glove interview of Obama and outgoing Secretary of State Hillary Clinton by Steve Croft on 60 Minutes is simply the latest in a long line of these.
Obama gives frequent interviews, but they are often with network anchors or local TV stations and rarely with the reporters who cover the White House day to day.
Now, why do I bring that up?
Well, it's because it's been revealed through emails that that same guy who complained about softball interviews of Barack Obama, Gawker, has received a batch of Hillary Clinton's aid.
His name is Felipe Reigns, if that's how you pronounce it, Felipe Reigns.
They got his emails.
And what did those emails reveal?
Well, in an email dated January 10th, 2013, Mike Allen floated the idea of interviewing Hillary Clinton's adult daughter, Chelsea, during an upcoming brunch hosted by Politico.
So this is him trying to secure the interview with Chelsea Clinton of, you know, Hillary Clinton.
Okay, so he, so here's, here's what he wrote in the email of trying to get this interview with Chelsea, and he's assuring her that it's going to be a safe interview.
He says, quote, this would be a way to send a message during inaugural week, Colin.
No one besides me would ask her a question, and you and I would agree on them precisely in advance.
So he's telling, he's telling this guy Felipe, who is a Hillary Clinton aide, that I want to interview Chelsea.
And trust me, I'm not going to ruffle anybody's feathers.
All I want is the celebrity of her celebrity on my show.
That's all I want.
He goes on, he said, this would be a relaxed conversation, and our innovative format always gets heavy social media pickup.
The interview would be, quote, no surprises, end quote.
I would work with you on topics, would start and would start with anything she wants to cover or make news on quicker than a network hit and reaching an audience you care about with no risk.
So that's.
I definitely think he should get the job as a publicist for that.
He sounds like a publicist for the Clintons, right?
Yeah, it sounds exactly like a publicist.
And of course, Gawker goes on to point out that this is newsworthy because of his public opposition to low-risk interviews with powerful figures.
Although he has a history of, for instance, softball, Dick Cheney interviews.
And I'm guessing that these kind of emails took place between him and Cheney's people before his Cheney interviews.
You're right.
So Politico responded, the editor, Susan Glasser, provided this statement to Gawker.
She said, sorry to be so late on this, but I hope you can add this quick statement from Politico here.
And here's her statement.
We didn't end up doing any interview with Chelsea Clinton.
And we have a clear editorial policy of not providing questions to our guests in advance.
Thank you for reaching out, Susan.
So she's saying, hey, what he offered to do is against our policy.
Well, I guess he'll be fired then tomorrow.
I'm going to guess not.
I'm going to guess it doesn't matter what they say as long as they get the interview, because all Politico cares about is softball interviews and clicks.
The idea that he's the guy complaining about softball interviews is hilarious.
Politico.
I know, but you know what?
This is newsworthy, even if he hadn't made those statements.
In other words, even if this was just any guy that you didn't know that he had, yeah, I mean, it adds the element of him being a hypocrite, but even if he weren't a hypocrite, it's still like completely way off base.
Yes.
And completely unethical.
And, you know, he should be fired.
But as you said, it's not going to happen.
No, that's not going to happen.
And plus, why is he so interested in a softball interview with Chelsea Clinton?
I don't know why he thought that would be the get.
Especially inaugural week.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, I think that like, you know, doing shots in a bar with the Bush daughters, that would be worth like making deals for.
Zadraga Act, the Zadraga Act.
I hope I'm pronouncing that correctly.
That was named after first responder on 9-11, James Zadraga.
He died after working at Ground Zero.
And the Zadraga Act, I hope I'm pronouncing that correctly, provides compensation and health-related funding to more than 33,000 workers and their beneficiaries who worked a shift in the day and months after the 9-11 attacks.
Many are suffering from cancers and other illnesses caused by working at the 9-11 toxic atmosphere.
Well, I don't know why you're even bringing this up to me because who would possibly oppose that?
Who could possibly oppose helping those people?
So that is the weird thing, right?
Who could possibly oppose that?
Maybe they're just faking it.
Turns out there's a political, a bitter political feud on Capitol Hill that is stalling any moves towards renewing this bill, Frank.
Many get this.
Many Republican lawmakers who support the renewal of the bill, but pushing to make it temporary and subject to periodic scrutiny.
So they don't want to make this bill permanent.
And so these people have to worry about getting their health care taken care of forever.
So most of the Democrats and about 50 Republicans are on board with making this act permanent.
But there's Paul Ryan, who's the Speaker of the House, is against it.
And a lot of Republicans also, in fact, the majority of them are against making this.
So this is what I don't get.
I don't get why Republicans don't support giving 9-11 first responders health care for the diseases they got working the pile after 9-11, because what's in it for them to not support what it's in it for Republicans not to support 9-11 first responders?
Who does this appeal to?
Is it their donors that this appeals to?
I mean, I got to think even the Koch brothers would be on board for taking care of the first responders who worked the pile, who literally went into it.
Everyone knew that there was the error wasn't, even though the EPA member, Christy Todd Whitman, she said that the, oh, the air is fine.
And of course, we all knew she was lying.
And she was lying.
And of course, nothing happens.
You can lie like if you lie in defense of the government, nothing ever happens.
That's what's going on Sunday.
And she probably did on a Sunday news show where it's impolite to point that out that she's lying.
So I don't know, Frank, what is in it?
So there's actually bipartisan support for the Bill to Make It Perm.
In the Senate, 15 supporters in the Senate of Republicans, which gives the bill a filibuster-proof majority.
And in the House, 60 Republicans supported it, which get and so there's enough Democrats to pass the bill with those 60 republics.
But Paul Ryan won't bring it up because the majority of Republicans.
So what is, how could this be good for them?
I'm literally, I don't understand this, Frank.
Do you?
I don't.
I thought maybe you had a reason, but I don't understand why they, I think, and this is not the most implausible explanation.
They're just dicks.
So this bill has to keep being renewed.
And it didn't get renewed on October 1st, which so it kind of expired.
But the funding will run out come January.
So they have to, and this is the thing that you've seen Jon Stewart go out into the street with, and he preached about it.
And he actually got it passed one time.
And now it's up for, again, I don't know what's going to happen.
So Rachel Maddow brings out a 9-11 first responder who is sick.
And he's advocating for the bill because he wants the bill to give them health care.
So it was a very serious segment, and he had a lot of serious stuff to say.
And here, let's listen to a little bit what he said.
What's Republican leadership and whether they want this done?
Yes.
And my, I mean, my personal feeling, my personal hope is, you know, Speaker Ryan would say, hey, listen, if you want to save money, saving money is, we don't save money on the backs of 9-11 first responders who are sick and dying.
It turns out they do, though, right?
In another 14 years, I guess the Republicans will try to pass their last responders bill.
It's weird providing health care to 9-11 responders, it goes against Republicans' belief in personal responsibility of avoiding responsibility.
Yes, and you know, I feel like the Republicans maybe feel that they are the first responders because they were the first to respond by exploiting this tragedy for their own political gain.
Well, I think what the Republicans' message is to the 9-11 first responders is, you know, those people foolish enough to try and help others in a national crisis, they get what they deserve.
Am I right, Frank?
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, funding health care for first responders will take away much needed money for bombing buildings in other people's countries.
Exactly.
We need another aircraft carrier to yes.
You know what's funny?
I was listening to the reports about France sending warplanes to bomb ISIS in Syria.
He said their aircraft carrier, single, singular.
They have one aircraft carrier, which is adorable.
And I think we have 13 of them.
We have 13 in the United States.
France has one.
We have 13.
We have 13, and they might get picked up for the back nine.
Yeah.
Ann Coulter just called the 9-11 responders a bunch of whiners.
So I guess we'll look at no, she called the first, she called their wives a bunch of harpies.
Yes.
And she said they should be in they should all be in Playboy magazine.
really said that which is weird because thanks to Ann Coulter you don't need a dirty magazine to know what a cunt looks like.
Ah.
Yeah.
Jeb Bush was asked about this, and he said, My brother kept those people safe from seeing a doctor.
Give me a break.
So listen to how, listen, Paul Ryan has issued a statement.
He said that the first responders on 9-11, quote, should have just minded their own business.
So here, so Rachel Maddow has on this guy.
And let's listen to a little bit more what he has to say.
How are you doing?
I know you've had a couple of difficult days recently.
Yeah, I mean, I was supposed to be on your show last Friday.
Unfortunately, I had to cancel out because I was back in the hospital.
Unfortunately, you know, this happens.
This happens with all of us.
I appreciate your patience.
Thank you for having me back in this week.
And let me just tell you something.
You know, what is in it for the Republicans?
My thought is also at the same time, this is an issue that's being handed on a platter to the Democrats.
Republicans can make an issue out of whole cloth.
Benghazi, Travelgate, Whitewater, long-form birth certificates, IRS scanners.
It goes on and on forever.
They can make stuff out of nothing and they can get news people to repeat it on their news shows night after night.
Here is an issue handed to the Democrats on a platter.
And they can't.
Democrats are so bad at messaging that this guy who's a guest, this 9-11 first responder on Rachel Maddow, he votes Republican.
Also, you know, the Democrats' main spokesperson is Debbie Wasserman Schultz, who's a no-responder.
So here's a little bit more from this guy.
It's again, I mean, I think about, you know, friends of mine who are much worse off than I am.
You know, my Joey Higgins, he's got throat cancer.
All these guys that have cancers and this and that.
I mean, friends of mine say, how do you deal with like all these headaches and all this?
I'm saying, yeah, well, I'm still walking around.
Yeah.
Well, your willingness to be an activist on it and a spokesman on it through everything you're dealing with personally is inspiring.
Dan, thanks for being here.
Appreciate it.
Okay, so that was pretty heart-wrenching, right?
So here's a guy who's sick himself and he thinks he's lucky because other people, and these are people who volunteered to help their country.
Like they literally wanted to do that.
And then this is how we, and then they have to fight their own government to get the illnesses taken care of that they got.
So it's just a horrible, and he sits there and his personal story is gut-wrenching.
And watch how Rachel, the guy is sitting in front of him.
Here's how she throws to the next segment.
She thanks him for coming on.
And then.
Moynihan is a 9-11 first responder and the Zedrova bill has not passed.
All right.
To lighten your load today, to cleanse the palate.
Still ahead.
We've got what we believe to be, you will like this, the first ever use of the word toilet at a presidential press conference.
And there's a legitimate news reason to bring it up.
Wow.
Hey, Rachel, the guy's sitting right there.
And she immediately starts.
She goes, all right, now let's cleanse our palate.
Let's get rid of that shit.
Right?
No more thinking about that.
Let's goof around.
I got a goofy news story coming up.
Let's all giggle in this guy's face who is sick.
He's sitting here with headaches.
And hey, let's cleanse our palate.
Let's get rid of it.
Headache is much worse now.
I'll tell you that.
But maybe he said right before they aired, Rachel, the only thing that can cure me is whimsy.
That's like casting Christopher Reeves in the sequel to Sea Biscuit.
Yeah, and why this, you know, why do you, do you always have to tease something?
In other words, isn't there times when you can just move past the prompter and say, we'll be back after this.
Yes, we'll be right back.
And then tell them after the commercial, oh, here's this fun thing we're going to do.
Yes.
Like, isn't, is there a rule that you're not allowed to do that?
That you have to tease everything?
You can't just say, we'll be right back.
Who are the audience members who were like, oh, oh, a toilet?
Oh, I have to see this.
And then she and she stops and says, points to him, the guy sitting in front of her who just said all his friends have throat cancer and he can't get health care.
She looks at him.
She goes, and you'll like this.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
The guy who's suffering from headaches.
He's going to love this story about a toilet seat.
What the unbelievable.
Yeah, pretty amazing.
Okay.
Well, yeah, you've never heard her say after a conservative.
And, you know, let's go.
Let's clean our palate.
Let's get our, let's get, let's get that horrible taste out of our mouth of this guest who's sitting right in front.
That's what she said.
Here's cleanse your palate.
Let's get that bad taste out of our mouth from this segment I just did with this guy who's sitting right here.
And Rachel's the good one.
Yeah, that's the good one.
She's the good one at MSNBC.
MSNBC.
On Saturday, November 14th, Jimmy's MacBook Pro completely crashed.
So it's been quite a nightmare.
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So Sarah Palin went on Seth Meyer's show, and they were talking about the Syrian refugees.
Now, you know, the Syrian refugees, it's a tough thing because you don't know if that two-year-old orphan, you know, you don't know.
Maybe they're, you know.
Anyway, so by the way, so let's just remind you, France still taking in Syrian refugees.
That right after the attacks, they committed to taking in 30,000 more Syrian refugees, right?
Because they understand that trying to keep terrorists out of your country, it's not like turning off a faucet.
You can't just go, oh, with Syria, let's get rid of them.
Close our borders.
So here's Sarah Palin with Seth Meyers, who used to host SNL's weekend update.
Now he hosts a show that comes on after the tonight show and before Carson Daly.
Carson Daly's still on the air.
I know.
Carson Daly still has a show.
Here's an even more amazing fact.
Are you ready for this?
Carson Daly's ratings, twice as high as Conan O'Brien's.
I saw that.
Yeah.
Carson Daly's.
That is true.
Carson Daly's ratings almost twice the size of Conan O'Brien's.
Just keep that in mind.
Well, I think, you know.
So Conan doesn't get half as many ratings as someone whose show nobody watches.
Yes, he gets half as many viewers as a show no one even knows is on the air.
So, I mean, but he really did bust out that new format once he went to CBS.
Anyway, here is Seth Meyers with that same format hosting Sarah Palin.
And I don't know.
Can I just say to everybody who has a network late night television show, maybe try a different format.
Maybe, I don't know.
You say, hey, if it works, don't hey, that's not working.
No one's watching these shows.
You know what, Jimmy?
And this is kind of a sidebar.
You might not even want to air this, but lately on this network called Get TV, which shows old shows, they've been showing reruns of the Merv Griffin show, which when I was a kid was kind of the talk show you made fun of.
Yeah.
It wasn't as good as Carson or Dick Cavett.
It's way better than anything that's on the air right now.
I mean, Merv Griffin had conversations.
Yes.
And he kept people around.
It wasn't just one person at a time, right?
There'd be a couple of people.
Absolutely.
And that's how you got moments like when Milton Burrell went after Richard Pryor.
Remember that?
Yeah, yeah.
You never see anything like that now.
And plus the guests that he had, the quality of the guests that you could get back then compared to now is just no comparison.
Well, he had, you know, he had thinkers on.
He had intellectuals on.
He had writers.
And when he brought it up.
Listen, I watched this one episode.
He had Dick Gregory came on, did stand up, very topical stand-up about the civil rights movement, sat down.
Merv Griffin interviewed him for the rest of the segment.
They went from a commercial, came back, did a whole other segment of interviewing Dick Gregory.
Wow.
Yeah, that you wouldn't see that on any show.
Even like Colbert doesn't do that.
I mean, I don't think you'll see that.
I just want to know how you able to sustain your attention after the commercial break.
I know, right?
Yeah.
You'll never see comedy like that on late night shows.
I mean, they're just afraid of everything.
When my book came out and we were, I'm like, hey, I can do a set or I can come on and talk about the book.
Or, you know, I'm an author.
I'm a radio show host.
I'm on the world's largest news, online news show I'm a part of, you know.
So, hey, I have some gravitational.
Maybe we could get me on that talk show that comes on at one in the morning.
And the answer from the Seth Meyers people was, he's not doing politics right now.
I'm not kidding.
The guy who used to host a weekend update, that was what they told my publicists.
Anyway, you know, they're all nice people.
I just think it's funny what they're doing with their television shows and their networks.
Anyway, so here he has on Sarah Palin.
And here's what he brings up the Syrian refugee thing.
I'm going to ask you a question because you were a governor and a lot of governors have come out speaking about Syrian refugees and the idea of more than half of the governors have said they don't want Syrian refugees coming into their states.
Obviously, this is off the Paris attacks.
And do you think there's, do you think it might look like this is a decision being made out of fear?
And do you, isn't there something to be said for sort of having the moral courage to welcome in people who are who are in danger and in fear and need a safe place to go?
What is Sarah Palin's response to that question?
And what is Seth Meyer's follow-up?
The answers just may surprise you, or will they?
How do I hear the answers, Jimmy?
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