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You know, they say Lady Justice is blind, but that's because after the police beating, her eyes are swollen shut.
And on Monday, FBI Director James Comey was speaking at the University of Chicago, where all good ideas come from.
And he reiterated his theory that the rise in violent crime in certain cities are a result of less aggressive policing due to increased scrutiny of officers in the wake of recent high-profile police killings of black men.
He called it the Ferguson effect.
You know, it's been 15 months since Michael Brown was shot in the back, and according to cops, he's still causing trouble.
I thought the Ferguson effect was too many foreigners hosting our late-night TV shows.
Even though we are still in a historical, all-time low in overall crime rate, the head of the FBI says that the slight rise in crime in a few cities is because of an internet hashtag.
James Comey pulled that out of his ass.
Talk about the long arm of the law.
Am I right, Paul?
Yeah, that's right, folks.
Guns don't cause crime.
iPhones cause crime.
Because when cops are filmed brutalizing citizens, the criminals win.
According to people like James Comey, when a policeman can't shoot an unarmed civilian in the back, you're not allowing him to do his job.
James Comey had absolutely no evidence that the rise in crime was caused by heightened scrutiny of the police, but he's planning to go back and plant some evidence.
According to Comey, the crime rate goes down when you allow police to break the law.
Things have gotten so bad that cops won't even bother beating suspects that risk them getting paid administration leave anymore.
When a policeman can't violently yank a woman out of her car for smoking, our society is back to the laws of the jungle.
And upon the ruins of civilization, you'll see James Comey saying, I told you so.
And remember, James Comey was opponent by Nobel Peace Prize winner Barack Obama.
You know, over 900 people have been shot by police in America this year.
And the only thing avoiding justice is the American justice system.
Nice.
Thank you.
Thank you.
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Hi, everybody.
Welcome to this week's show.
I am joined on the phone all the way from New York City.
You know him, you love him from Mystery Science Theater 3000.
It's TV's Frank, Frank Connoff.
Hi, Frank.
Hello there.
Yay.
Also with me across the desk, it's Hilarious Comedian.
You know him from Team Yasamura.
It's our resident Japanese man.
It's Robert Yasamura.
Hey, Robert.
Ohio.
Ohio to you.
Also, our resident Latina from the blog The Miserable Liberal.
It's Steph Zamarano.
Hey, Steph.
I love my union.
Yes.
Has Donald Trump kicked you out yet?
Not yet.
I'm still here.
All right.
Also running the board, Hilarious Comedian Michael Schertzer.
Hey, Michael.
Hey, what's up, Jimmy?
Let's get to the jokes before we get to the jokes.
I don't know if you heard the news.
Meat bad for us.
Meat is all bad for us.
So let me get this straight.
Bacon can give me cancer before it has the chance to make me die of a heart attack.
Now, that's disturbing.
That is disturbing.
Hey, did you hear Carly Fiorina lying about everything and running businesses into the ground?
Or as Political puts it, redefining feminism.
They really said that.
They really said that.
No, no.
No, I do feel that whole thing about that meat.
Yeah.
He has cancer.
I think it's a bunch of baloney.
Hey, the polls, the Iowa polls are out.
I don't know if you heard.
Ben Carson is leading Donald Trump in the new CBS news poll.
So turns out Republicans are finally coming to their senses.
I don't know if you heard Donald Trump as trying to say that he didn't have anything handed to him in his life.
He worked for everything because when he started, his dad only gave him a million-dollar loan.
Yeah, Trump starting out in life with nothing more than a million-dollar loan is a classic American Horatio asshole story.
Hey, did you, the Baghazi committee's hearings were last week?
I don't know.
So finally, they're going to get to the bottom of shit everybody knew years ago, which is nice.
Hey, did you notice that at the Benghazi hearing, there was no bathroom break because they were spending the whole hearing pissing on the graves of four dead Americans?
Good joke.
I don't care what you say.
The Benghazi scandal is sensational stuff, and Obama is going to be toast when Romney uses it against him at the next debate.
The good news about the Benghazi committee, though, Frank, is that it will inspire Hillary Clinton to keep her inauguration ceremony short and pithy.
What's coming up on today's show?
There was a beating at a high school, and we're going to take a look at it.
Turns out that girl was really in the wrong.
Also, let's see, the Ferguson effect.
What does it mean?
We'll find out.
Is it a physics thing?
The Republicans have created Frankenstein, and now they're angry and upset.
George Bush and John Kasich take a swipe at the Republican base.
We're going to talk about it.
Said George Bush.
And Jeb and Jeb Bush take a swipe at the Republican base, and we're taking a look at it.
Also, hey, the Afghan war got renewed for a couple more years.
Plus, there's a new pilot.
There's a new pilot.
I don't know if it's going to get picked up in the Middle East.
We'll talk about it.
Plus, we got phone calls today from Jeb Bush, Mike from St. Louis, and Chris Christie, plus a lot lot more.
That's today on the Jimmy Dore Show.
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Thank you.
So, of course, we're all familiar now with the Richland County Spring Valley High, right?
That's where the young 16-year-old black girl wouldn't give up her cell phone in an Algebra One class.
So they called the cops on her.
Okay, not overkill at all.
No, called the cops on a 16-year-old girl who was sitting quietly in class.
They called the cops on her.
The cops came, picked her up, threw her on her head, tossed her across the room like a bale of hay.
As you do.
As you do.
That's what it says in the police handbook.
I think it says when a girl, teenage girl doesn't obey your immediate command, throw her on her head, then toss her across the room like a bale of hay, traumatize the rest of the class, and then call yourself a hero.
Sure.
And that's, you know, apparently the Ferguson effect wasn't in effect in South Carolina this week when that cop was tossing that kid around like a ragdoll.
Sure.
A kid, a child.
Children are supposed to break rules.
That's what they do.
That's why you're supposed to teach them.
You don't come in and brutalize them.
Anyway, so she was being mouthy, though.
Yes.
So here, she actually wasn't even being mouthy.
I know.
She wasn't doing anything.
Here, if you look at the classroom makeup, it's predominantly African-American kids.
Right.
And he's white.
Yeah, I think it's a...
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yes.
And how much was she even using the phone?
I mean, did she even live tweet it when she got the so here?
I just want to play this real quick.
I don't understand the need for newsmen to downplay stuff, right?
They get overly cautious.
I don't want to say the cop is, you know, well, here's how Chris Hayes, he brought on a real policeman to ask him about this, and here's how he posed the question.
I've talked to a lot of cops over the last two years, and a lot of them say, look, sometimes you got to put hands on someone.
This doesn't seem to me, even from my amateur perspective, like an appropriate use of that.
I couldn't really tell, but I think maybe he might have broke a rule or two.
I'm not sure.
I'm an amateur.
He's talking to that cop as if the cop is doing a breathalyzer on him.
Yes.
He doesn't want to get busted.
So here's how that cop responds to him.
Now, the cop, so Chris Hayes is talking like a newspaper who is detached from reality.
I don't know what, I don't know what you get out of that.
What do you get out of saying that?
Everyone saw that video.
We all saw a 300-pound Royd-raged, brutal maniac pick a 16-year-old girl up.
By the way, she's an orphan living in a foster home.
It gets sadder and sadder and sadder.
And how many people want to take care of that little girl now after this?
She's a 16-year-old orphan living in a foster home.
And that, here we go.
Let's listen.
Here's what the cop said.
Here's what Chris Hayes said.
I've talked to a lot of cops over the last two years, and a lot of them say, look, sometimes you got to put hands on someone.
This doesn't seem to me, from my amateur perspective, like an appropriate use of that.
What did you get out of saying that?
They're my amateur specialists.
This doesn't seem to me.
I'm not a human.
I don't understand.
Is he trying to be clever?
Is that acute, Frank?
What do you think he's doing there?
I think he's just like, you know, I work for a big corporation and I don't want to get my corporate bosses mad if they think that I'm being too hard on a cop.
Then don't editorialize at all.
Right.
Show it for what it shows.
His show is a commentary show.
He's allowed to editorialize.
Yeah, but I mean, the thing is, is like if you're scared of editorializing, then don't.
Just show the thing.
Just show it.
Just show it and report the context by which it happens.
So he's an amateur of what?
Observations and making a decision based on the factual.
I'm not a professional.
Yeah, there's no professional that a cop, and he's perpetuating a bullshit thing of like, oh, well, if you're a cop, then you can really see the details of what happened.
Yes.
He would know that he had no choice but to pick that little girl up and throw her down.
And not recognizing the fact that we have civilian oversight over the police specifically for this reason.
Ah, great point, Robert.
That's why you're there.
Fantastic.
I think he's saying that Chris Hayes is saying that he's an amateur when it comes to critical thinking.
So here he throws it to that cop with such a mealy mouthed, underwhelming or just not really assessing the situation.
And here's what the cop says.
Absolutely not.
What you saw on that videotape was a senseless and brutal assault on a 16-year-old girl.
It's unjustifiable under the circumstances.
Okay, so it's wild.
Even a cop can see that, but he's a professional.
I guess that's why he has that insight.
Chris Hayes wouldn't, he wouldn't, I don't, you know, he's just, he's just an amateur.
This doesn't seem to me, from my amateur perspective, like an appropriate use of that.
And also, Chris, you have to understand Chris Hayes is a little out of his element.
He's not used to doing segments that don't involve long clips of Donald Trump.
Yes, so he's a little shaky there.
What if he really does this as an amateur?
What if he goes home and just looks at police videos and makes judgments?
He's like, I just do it as an amateur.
As an amateur, I like to do an amateur police scrutinizer.
Yeah, this in model building.
This is what I do.
After a long day, just I like to unwind.
So I also found it weird.
So I got to stop watching MSNBC.
I'm going to have to switch to I would watch MSNBC because I thought they were better news people than CNN.
Al Jazeera people.
And I, well, yeah, I guess I don't know where to find Al Jazeera on my TV.
So I swear to God, I have no idea.
I just know every time I turn around, I can see Anderson Cooper.
Yeah, I can see Anderson Cooper all the time.
So here on MSNBC, during when they go away to a break, they'll show a little clip.
So they showed this clip.
And here's a student from that high school, and she's talking about the officer.
By the way, that cop's name is Benjamin Fields.
He's been fired, right?
So they fired him.
They had to review it first, and then they fired him the next day, which is nice.
It happened quickly.
I'm going to go ahead and say his jacket was probably full of a lot of incidents like this.
Well, he actually has a history of assistance.
Of course, he does.
He assaulted a veteran previously.
So he assaulted a veteran, a veteran, a United States soldier.
Let's put him on a high school campus.
Who said, and the reason why he got on, he cited him for a noise violation because his stereo was too loud in his car.
And then he ended up emptying his can of pepper spray on the guy because he got ticked off that the pepper spray didn't affect him.
Well, the guy's trained to handle pepper spray, which is why it didn't affect him.
And so he got so upset, he emptied his whole can of pepper spray on the guy.
The jury found in favor of that cop, obviously.
Of course, because there's no videotape of it.
But that would be the Ferguson effect that James Comey said.
So anyway, so here's the thing they played.
A young girl who's from that school, and here's what she had to say about officer maniac Roy Rage Fields.
He's a really good officer.
He's a really good officer.
This is what she says.
I swear to God.
He's a really good officer.
And sometimes he can be like pretty mean, but he can also be a really nice officer.
He can also help kids out at school.
Yeah, that guy, he could also be really nice.
He could be really mean.
What?
You just described drunk dad.
Yeah, you just described a drug.
Exactly.
Like, he's really nice when he's sober.
Yes.
Super nice.
Super nice.
He can help kids.
But then sometimes he takes 16-year-old girls and he body slams them on their head, and then he picks them up and throws them across the room like a bale of hay.
So he twice tour through her.
Jimmy, what about all the times he didn't slip a girl on her head?
Right.
So get this.
No one talks about that.
So there was a girl.
You're right, Robert.
No one does talk about that.
All the times he didn't throw somebody out.
Right.
Nobody talks about all the times Bill Clinton didn't get a blowjob in his office when he said it.
That's true.
Maybe we can do it.
And you notice no one talks about the one time Bill Cosby didn't rape.
Yeah, what about all the women Bill Cosby didn't rape?
Yeah.
What about all the people Manson didn't kill?
Yeah.
Right.
Okay.
So we can, this is fun.
Let's keep going.
Let's keep going.
What about all the hospitals that we didn't bomb in Afghanistan?
What about all the countries we didn't implement?
Illegally invade, right?
What about what about all the bits we didn't beat to death?
So there was a young, there was another young girl in that classroom while they were brutalizing that girl.
And the adults were standing around watching, by the way.
A young girl stood up, 16-year-old girl.
So, by the way, that was an Algebra 1 class.
To be fair, Algebra 1's pretty hard.
It is pretty hard.
It really does.
You got to knock some heads to get that stuff into kids.
You know, when I was in, I went to Catholic high school, and there was always the threat of violence, which is, that's the way you should learn, by the way.
Always waiting to be hit.
You never know when a crack is coming.
That always helps you learn.
But all the years I went to Catholic school, 12 years, and those guys in high school, I was taught by Christian brothers, and they were pretty brutal.
A lot of them had emotional problems.
That's why they're over-religious in the first place.
And they're all suppressing their homosexuality.
That's why they're in the priesthood or whatever the hell they call that.
But usually Catholicism helps with those things so much.
Yeah, it really does.
So I saw a lot of brutality.
I never saw anything close to what that person was.
That's a good point.
I went to Catholic school too.
And yeah, I saw a lot of bad stuff, but nothing like that.
I never saw one of the teachers pick up a kid and throw him on his head and then pick him up again and throw him across the room, which is what that cop did.
I never saw anything like that.
And I know kids that were goofing off a lot in school.
By the way, the fact that you could do that to a high school kid for breaking a rule in a high school.
Now we're criminalizing high school kids, and that's been happening in South Carolina for a long time.
We're going to get to that in just a second.
But there was a young lady named Nia Kenney, and she was in that classroom, and she was the only one with the courage to stand up.
And this is what she has to say.
Now, they played this girl saying this.
He's a really good officer.
And sometimes he can be like pretty mean, but he can also be a really nice officer.
He can also help kids out at school.
He's a good kid.
He works hard.
He works hard.
That's what that is.
Every time you watch cops and a girl, a woman's being brutal, he works hard.
He's a good man.
He's just drinking.
He walked into a door.
He's just blowing off a little steam.
He works hard.
That's what that is, right?
So then this one girl who stood up to everybody in that classroom, including the administration, the teacher, and the cop.
And she says this about that cop.
I've heard about him, so I wasn't really surprised because I've heard so much about him.
He's known as Officer Slam around our school.
I've heard he's in the past slammed pregnant women, teenage girls.
He's known for slamming.
So they call him Officer Slam.
Oh, I thought he was just really into poetry.
Yeah, I thought it was a poetry slam reference.
So they play a video of that one young lady saying, oh, he's a really nice guy.
Sometimes he's really mean, like when he brutalizes 16-year-old girls in front of a class and dramatizes everybody.
Like then he's not good.
So here's, so then Lawrence O'Donnell has on that sheriff, and he asks him about this.
Hey, this girl says that all the kids called him Officer Slam.
Sheriff, have you heard that before?
What we just heard from that student who was in the room yesterday, that he's known as Officer Slam around the school because he slams people.
No, I have not heard that.
I've heard some students talk bad about him.
I've also heard students that talk good about it.
That's been pretty well even on the comments from our students and from parents.
So what is weird?
He sounds reliable.
So what is weird about what that cop, first of all, if he's the sheriff and he makes, so he should know that the guy who's policing a high school has two big incidents of police brutality on his record already.
He's being sued, by the way, right now.
He's in a lawsuit right now for being discriminatory against black kids, still in the high school.
They call him Officer Slam.
He brings that up to this sheriff.
And what this, listen to what the sheriff said.
I'm going to play one more time.
No, I have not heard that.
I've heard some students talk bad about him.
I've also heard students that talk good about him.
That's been pretty well even.
Pretty well even.
So pretty well even.
You know, half the kids say he's a brutal maniac and half the kids say he's a nice guy.
So that's what you're looking for.
You're looking for half the people who come in contact with a police officer to think he's a maniac and half of them to think he's not.
That's when you know you're doing what a thing for a sort of a yin-yang.
Is he trying to pretend that he's George Snuffalopagus and he's playing it right down the middle?
That's what he's thinking.
He's like, no, no, no.
So half the people don't like him.
I don't think that's supposed to be a ratio that you in that's a good ratio here.
Am I wrong about this, Frank?
You know, he doesn't mention, too, that he's known as Sheriff's Shithead.
Here's another thing that Sheriff said.
This is before he fired the cop.
This is what he said the night before he fired him.
Another child or student in that.
He said there was another video.
There's another child in that class videotaped it.
You notice how he corrected himself when he said he said child.
Then swimmingly said student because he doesn't want to remind people that this officer just beat the crap out of a child.
you know, let's talk about she's an orphan.
And she's an orphan.
I'm not going to say that.
She's an orphan living in a foster home.
She's a student.
She might have some emotional problems because she's an orphan living in a foster home and she wasn't being violent.
So what we did was we called a cop and told him to start knocking her around in the middle of a classroom.
That's what we do.
We call the cop in.
And those teachers, there's so much I want.
So here's what this right exactly, Robert.
They don't call the child.
They don't call the school psychiatrist or psychologist or whatever.
What do they do?
They call the car.
Yeah.
From a different angle.
So there's another video from a different angle.
And what is it?
What does that angle show, Sheriff?
Also, from a different angle, and it shows a different perspective.
It actually shows the student hitting the school resource officer with her fist and striking.
And is that true?
So what happens is, if you watch the videotape, when the cop comes over and says, get up, and she says no.
So he immediately starts choking her.
So he comes around and starts to choke her to rip her out of the seat by a chokehold.
Sure.
So when he chokes her, she starts to flail her arms.
It's flailing.
And that's what that cop is calling.
That's what that's what.
What are you supposed to do?
The student hitting the school resource officer with her fist and striping.
And striking him.
As he was choking her, a 300-pound Roy Rage cop in the middle of an Algebra One class started choking a 16-year-old girl.
And he's saying, another video shows her punching him with his fist, with her fist.
What an asshole.
God damn it.
If there's a cop out there, I mean, how could you not be embarrassed for your profession on a daily basis?
And I know why.
It's because cops don't think that much.
If you're too smart, they weed you out.
They don't want smart guys being cops.
So let's just remember that, okay?
And I come from a long line of cops.
And let's remember that I come from a dumb family.
My grandpa was dumb.
My dad's dumb.
My oldest brother is a moron.
And these were all guys given a gun by the state.
We have some more startling facts about this case coming up in the second half.
But right now, Chris Christie called in.
I don't know if you heard about Chris Christie getting kicked out of the quiet car on an Amtrak train.
No kidding.
Yeah, he got kicked out of quiet cars being too loud on an Amtrak train.
They kicked him out of the quiet car.
He was said to be holding a strawberry smoothie from McDonald's at the time.
Health nut.
And when he left, when he left the quiet car, he went to the dining car.
This is all true reported in the newspaper.
So I actually.
Which was no longer the dining car after he'd been there for two minutes.
So get this.
I think he accidentally butt-dialed me on the Amtrak train.
Yeah, or one of his handlers or something butt-dialed me because I here, listen to this message I got.
Listen, you can kind of hear it.
Ready?
And then I said Hillary Clinton needs to be held accountable for Ben Garzini.
Me, the governor of New Jersey, said someone should be held accountable and that face the nation to our Den Blake.
Hey, Frono, strawberry shake, give me.
Then I said cops are getting murdered because of Moulins on Lives Matter.
Yeah, the anti-violence activists are causing all the violence.
The Bianches will eat it up.
Speaking of which, I want my McDonald's strawberry shake.
What do you mean, which one is that?
It's the one with the plastic pink color.
You know, the way strawberries look.
Last time I have a colorblind bodyguard.
*laughter*
Give me another shake.
And where's my fucking candy?
How many times have I told you there's nothing fun about front size?
What you want me to what?
You want me to leave the quiet car?
Seriously?
Seriously?
No, I ain't fucking moving.
You don't know who you're talking to.
I'm the star of the Jimmy Fallon show.
If this is a quiet car, why don't you shut the fuck up?
You ain't throwing me out.
You ain't going to treat me like an underpaid teacher.
Add it, car.
Add it, car.
No, I won't lower my voice.
I ain't in the mood for this.
I'm hungry and I've got an ice cream headache.
Be honest, is this because of what I did in the bathroom?
Back open a window.
It'll lie around in 16 hours.
Listen, I bet you're a union, guys.
Well, one of these days you'll have to drive over a bridge.
And when that day comes, eating car?
You didn't tell me there was an eating car.
Why didn't you tell me that in the first place?
I'll take two of everything on the menu, but hold the mayo.
I'm on a diet.
What are you looking at fuck face?
And that's the end of the message.
That was the end of the message.
It was weird.
It was like a butt dial.
And I just said, yeah.
Hey, we got a lot coming up in the second half.
Jeb Bush calls in, and we have some more interesting facts about the high school cop abuse story that's coming up in the second half.
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Jeb Bush calls in later.
But right now, we're going to get back to our discussion about the cop abuse story in South Carolina at the high school.
I'm joined by Frank Conner from Mystery Science Theater 3000, Robert Yasimura, Steph Semerano, and Michael Schertzer.
But here is something he did say.
Here's something that Sheriff said I found interesting.
Because so why are there cops A in schools anyway in the first place?
I think that's such a bad idea.
Happened after Columbine, I believe.
Is that what they did?
They started putting cops.
But this happened way earlier in South Carolina because listen to what he says.
Unfortunately, our legislature passed a law that's called disturbing schools.
If a student disturbs school, and that's a wide range of activities disturbing schools, they can't be arrested.
And I'll be one of the first ones standing here and tell you that it's been abused in the past.
It's been abused.
Because it's so wide-ranging that a phone goes off.
If that teacher determines that phone is disrupting the class and all the students can't learn, she can have that student arrest for it.
Should that happen?
Arrested.
Not in my opinion, no.
So at least that cop, he says that this is ridiculous, kind of.
He's saying, do I think that these kids should be arrested?
No, but that's the law.
So everyone there sees this as ridiculous that we're criminalizing high school students for being normal high school students, right?
So when a kid acts up in school, they go to jail in South Carolina.
They don't get sent to detention.
They don't have to come on the weekend on Saturday.
When I was in school, if you got caught fighting in school, you didn't go to prison.
They didn't call a cop on you.
They broke it up and you had to come to detention.
No matter what you got caught, if you got caught vandalizing the school, they didn't call the cops.
They didn't call the cops if they caught you with drugs in school.
They didn't call it cops.
They called your parents and then they gave you a detention.
They never called the cops.
I went to Catholic school for 12 years.
Not one time did I see a cop anywhere near my school.
And there was a lot of people getting the crap beaten on them.
There's a lot of drugs.
There's a lot of everything.
They never called the cops for anything.
Can I make it?
But Jimmy, was there anything as serious as someone having a cell phone?
Oh, that was before cell phones, Frank.
Good point.
Let me make two points.
First of all, I bet you you can draw a direct line in South Carolina between integration of schools and that law.
Second of all, yes, yes.
Second of all.
Robertson fired tonight.
One of the things that you should that that sheriff is pointing out that's very telling about the South Carolina legislature is that the problem is that they wrote a vague law specifically like that, which is in defiance of the basic credo of we are a nation of laws, not men.
And that is a consistent big problem in states where Alec has gone in and meddled.
And that's basically how you get to stand your ground law, too.
These vague laws that basically open up to an abuse of power.
And it used to be that that's what a legislature tried to avoid specifically.
In these southern states, what they're starting to do more and more are these vague laws that are specifically designed for abuse of power.
Do you think those laws that are happening in the South, do you think they'll ever come to America?
Well, get this, Frank.
Did you know?
This is from the LA Times.
And in the 2011-2012 school year, black students represented 16% of the student population, but accounted for 27% of all student referrals to law enforcement and 31% of all school-related arrests, according to the federal report from the Department of Education's Office for Civil Rights.
The statistics were so alarming that last year, Los Angeles Unified School District stopped giving citations for fighting petty theft and other minor offensive in response to growing research showing that when police handle such matters, struggling students are more apt to drop out and get in more serious trouble with the law.
Oh, really?
No kidding.
So if you criminalize normal teenage behavior, it has a deleterious effect on a child's learning?
You're kidding.
You know, it also says there are no national standards for training school police.
No national standards.
Well, it could go wrong.
It shows.
Yes, no national standards.
Parents will tell you that a mouthy teenager makes them want to hit them with a gun.
So, like, this, I mean, putting a guy with a gun and an anger issue into a classroom, I don't see how that could possibly be perceived as a good idea.
So the sheriff of that Richland County, he said that school resource officers have three roles.
One, to serve as deputies.
Two, provide a positive role model.
Right.
And three, counsel students with problems.
Oh, so.
That must be a great counseling session with that.
That was called Tough Love.
And he said, and then he said, it takes a unique officer to do this job.
And kids are going to say things you're not going to like.
They're probably going to make you mad.
But there's a certain part of that that's just adolescence.
Well, I'm sure, like, when the cops interview for this job, like, what do they ask them?
Do you like to injure orphans?
And this comes as a direct result from the war on drugs.
Yes.
This is all about the war on drugs, getting police in schools, making sure that these kids don't have drugs.
It doesn't matter that they're coming from tough situations and that who can afford higher education now.
Should police choices do these things?
Should police really be in the business of disciplining high school students?
Is that really what we want the police to do to discipline high school students, Michael?
Yeah, just to further that point, like it's an extension of the school-to-prison pipeline.
That's right.
You have the actual police officers.
They used to just wait outside the school for supposed illicit activity, aka just hit kids hanging out and being kids.
Now they're actually inside the school so they can catch him early, catch him young, catch him quick, and bring him off to prison as quick as possible.
Yeah, that sounds right.
I mean, Here's how the LA Times described it.
The deputy wrapped his arm around her neck from behind in a headlock and tried to lift the student by one of her legs.
As the deputy struggles with the student, the desk flips backward onto the ground with the student still sitting in it.
Otherwise, the desk flips.
The desk flipped itself.
The inanimate object flipped itself.
The desk flipped itself.
At least they said he put his arm around her neck and put her in a headlock.
If they played out that video a little longer, another deputy would have tapped in.
Then it says the deputy drags the first student who was still entangled in the desk and throws her across the classroom.
Throws her.
Now, here's my point.
And this is, I've said, I said, by the way, I love talking about this on Facebook.
So you get all your knucklehead right-wing friends who reflexively are bootlickers.
Isn't that funny?
These guys who want to have guns and want to fight the government always seem to find a way to bootlick cops.
It's amazing.
That's bootlick.
It's so disgusting, right?
And so let me say, make two things.
Here's how they're supposed to handle that.
The way you handle a student like that, if she's being non-responsive and she won't leave the classroom, you are supposed to, A, clear the classroom.
And when I say clear the classroom, I don't mean clear the classroom like tell all the rest of the kids to get in this hall.
You tell the rest of the kids to go to the library.
And then you call in an administrator or a counselor.
And then the teacher also leaves the room.
Why?
Because it makes it less confrontational now with the student.
Now it's another person.
Wait, now it's another person.
It's an administrator or a counselor and that student and no one else is around.
So the student isn't embarrassed.
The student can act more properly.
And then they handle it that way.
And you say, can you leave now?
And then when the student leaves the room, the student doesn't have to walk past the teacher or the rest of their students.
So the student is humiliated.
And the student is more apt to resolve this situation in a peaceful manner, in a non-confrontational, less dramatic manner.
That's how you are supposed to handle this.
You mean de-escalate?
To de-escalate the situation.
Because you're adults and you've done this before.
But what they did, so what this teacher did was call an administrator.
The administrator came in, and then the administrator called the cop in to come brutalize this kid, literally.
And then they stood there.
So they went with option B. So they went with option B, and they stood there and watched a cop throw a teenage girl, literally throw her across the room and body slam her, and they and then cuff her.
And they did nothing.
They're cowards, those two guys, that teacher and that administrator.
They should be fired.
Both those guys, how those guys ever keep their jobs?
I'll be surprised because there's going to be a lawsuit against all of them.
If anyone else was on videotape, taking a 16-year-old girl who was quietly sitting at a desk and threw her on her head and then threw her across the room.
If it was her teacher who did that, he'd be arrested.
If it was her volleyball coach who did that, he'd be arrested.
If it was the school counselor, they'd be arrested.
If it was her father, if somebody had a videotape of her dad disciplining her by picking her up and throwing her on her head and then throwing her across the room like an animal and hog tying her, they would be arrested.
But because it's a cop doing it, the worst that happens is he loses his job.
So public schools are supposed to be places where kids go and feel safe so they can learn.
But what black kids are feeling all over the country is that schools are just another place where they go where there's another guy from the government who's going to profile them and then beat the crap out of them and arrest them.
That's what's happening.
The black kids at height, they're being profiled by cops at high schools.
You know, without the iPhone getting it on camera, this guy would be in no trouble at all.
Well, that's a great.
So this cop from St. Louis, who Chris Hayes had on, he makes that exact point.
Let's listen.
Thank God for the awareness of the young lady who was just on and her classmates filming what happened so that we have an objective record of what took place.
Without those videotapes, this officer is not on administrative leave.
The Justice Department is not involved.
And we're not where we are right now.
Importantly.
So that Ferguson effect, the fact that James called me the FBI director wasn't immediately fired for saying that twice.
Two days in a row.
He said it on Friday in the Senate on Monday.
And cops who perform their job in public on public streets don't want the public to be watching them when they do their job.
Yeah.
Is an indictment.
Well, here's, he says this.
Listen to what he says.
Those video cameras and those officers who are now out in the national discourse talking about a Ferguson effect are really indicting the system itself because what they're saying in effect is that now that you all can create objective records of our behavior consistently as we execute our public responsibilities, we can't do it anymore because we do so much dirt, we're afraid to work.
I just got a periscope notification from a cop about to beat up Black Guy.
So Jeb Bush and John Kasich are feeling the heat of the campaign trail and the success of Ben Carson and Donald Trump and the fact that normal politics aren't working.
You know, Jeb Bush is supposed to be the nominee because he's rich and his dad and his brother were also president and he knows a lot of rich, powerful people.
So now it's his turn and it's bothering him and everybody's pointing to him.
He was talking about how he has better things to do than run for president.
And he said this.
If this election is about how we're going to fight to get nothing done, then I don't want anything.
I don't want any part of it.
I don't want to be elected president to sit around and see gridlock just become so dominant that people literally are in decline in their lives.
That is not my motivation.
I got a lot of really cool things that I could do other than sit around being miserable, listening to people demonize me and me feeling compelled to demonize them.
That is a joke.
Elect Trump if you want that.
Yeah, he's got a lot of cool things that he could be doing instead of being president, like what Jeb has been doing for the last 10 years, you know, trading in on the Bush name, making millions on corporate boards, giving speeches to corporations, and doing nothing of community service.
Those are the cool things that he could be doing besides being president.
His brother kept him safe from being cool.
So, and then they, so his campaign is imploding.
He cut 40% of their pay, 40% of his staff and all that stuff.
And so somebody asked him about that.
This guy reporter asked Jeb Bush at a news conference, the whisper campaign's already starting that your campaign's falling apart.
And listen to his response.
Blah, blah, blah, blah.
You know what they're saying now.
That's my answer.
Blah, blah, blah.
His answer is blah, blah, blah.
Blah, blah, blah.
His answer was blah, blah, blah, you guys.
That was his answer.
You know, you know, it's weird.
Jeb campaigns exactly like a spoiled rich kid who's never had to work for anything in his life.
It's weird.
Weird.
It's really weird.
It's blah, blah, blah.
That sums up Jem's campaign succinctly.
I think, hey, I think his new campaign logo is going to be blah, exclamation point.
Go ahead, Frank.
I think he just wanted to prove that he's more articulate than his brother.
I saw that clip.
I was watching Chris Hardball, and they played that clip of Bush saying that stuff about, hey, vote for Trump.
And in their lives.
That is not my motivation.
I got a lot of really cool things that I could do other than sit around being miserable, listening to people demonize me and me feeling compelled to demonize them.
That is a joke.
Elect Trump if you want that.
So that's a great campaign speech.
No kidding.
Sounds like Jeb Bush has dropped out of the race and endorsed Trump.
He sounds like a spoiled little kid.
It's supposed to be my time, you guys.
Just go ahead and you vote for him then.
That's exactly what he sounds like.
And here's so when they come back to the studio, this is what Chris Matthews says about that clip.
Listen to what he says.
Well, that's a strange way to sit with your legs far apart.
I've never seen a guy sit like that.
He literally, I'm going to play it again.
Literally, he talked about the way Jeb Bush was sitting with his legs instead of what he was talking about.
Listen.
Well, that's a strange way to sit with your legs far apart.
I've never seen a guy sit like that.
He's like he's riding a horse.
Anyway, today, Donald Trump retorted.
That's a strange way to sit with your legs far apart.
I've never seen a guy sit like that.
I've never seen a guy sit like that.
Chris Matthews can always find the most shallow and empty thing to talk about at any given moment.
At any given moment.
So here's a gift.
And it's funny to watch Jeb have to defend the Iraq war, right?
Yeah, so the last two people in America defending the Iraq war, Jeb Bush and Sam Harris.
Very nice, right?
So here's John Kasich.
He's tired of it too.
He's tired of the.
So let's remember the Frankenstein monster that they have created, right?
So what has happened to the Republican Party is in the 1980, Ronald Reagan married the Republican Party to the religious right, which are the backward, ignorant, science-denying moron part of the party now.
And then they got rid of the fairness doctrine, which unleashed right-wing talk radio in Rush Limbaugh on America, right?
So now there's no lefty radio anymore.
It's all right-wing corporate talk.
And then in 1995 or six, they invented Fox News.
And also George H.W. Bush basically reincarnated a version of the Southern strategy.
So remember that.
So they also did the Southern Strategy, right?
And Lee Atwater did the Willie Horton ad, which is also a new take on the Southern strategy.
Exactly.
They continued the Southern strategy.
And they demonized Barack Obama for being intelligent.
They have cheating.
And black.
They have cheaters and divorcees prosecuting Bill Clinton for getting a BJ in the office.
They spend the next 10 years defending an illegal war, tax cuts for billionaires while everybody else is sinking in a hole.
And you wonder what happened to your party.
It's the foxification of the Republican Party.
This is what happens when you let Sean Hannity and Bill O'Reilly and Rush Limbaugh run your party.
This is what happens.
You guys, so here, here's what John Kasnick has said.
By the way, it's his brother, too.
There was so much messaging about like, that's a guy you want to have your beer with.
That guy's plain spoken.
That guy's a straight shooter.
Well, guess what?
The next step, the next logical step, is Donald Trump.
Yes.
So here's what John Kasich is upset at his own party, and here's what he says.
Do you know how crazy this election is?
Let me tell you something.
I'm about had it with these people.
And let me tell you why.
We got one candidate that says that we ought to abolish Medicaid and Medicare.
You ever heard of anything so crazy as that?
Telling our people in this country who are seniors or about to be seniors that we're going to abolish Medicaid and Medicare?
Hey, John, I'm pretty sure half your party wants to do that.
Yeah, yeah.
So who are you talking to?
You're talking to your own party, the people who've wanted to eliminate Medicare and Medicaid since they invented it.
Yeah, but what he's not saying is, yeah, but that was just messaging.
That was just something we said to get elected.
We didn't actually want people who actually believe that to get elected.
We just said it.
And that's the thing is like their messaging is now manifesting in actual people who actually believe this, and it's driving them crazy.
Yeah, we don't actually want to take away Medicare, you knuckleheads.
We just say that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Paul Ryan, the plan with Mitt Romney was to eliminate Medicare and turn it into a voucher program.
So they already have these plans.
He's acting like there's just a couple of people in their party that's doing this, right?
He's got a little bit more.
He's upset about health care.
We got people proposing health care reform that's going to leave, I believe, millions of people without adequate health insurance.
Uh-huh.
What about taxes?
We got one person saying we ought to have a 10% flat tax that'll drive up the deficit in this country by trillions of dollars that my daughters will spend the rest of their lives having to pay off.
You know, what I say to them is, why don't we have no taxes?
Just get rid of them all.
And then a chicken in every pot on top of it.
So he's mocking his own party.
Yes.
He's mocking the position.
The whole party wants a flat tax.
Are you kidding me?
This is very popular with your, A, with your donors, with your base.
What are you, are you kidding me?
This is amazing, right?
So this is what has happened.
They have to now fight against the Frankenstein that they've created, right?
So here, what about immigration?
We got one guy that says we ought to take 10 or 11 million people and pick them up.
I don't know where we're going to go in their homes, their apartments.
We're going to pick them up and we're going to take them to the border and scream at them to get out of our country.
I mean, that's just, that's just crazy.
That is just crazy.
He sounds, he's doing an impression of Charlton Heston.
It's a madhouse.
The world has gone crazy.
He sounds like, what does it sound like Heston from the Planet of the Apes?
Am I wrong about this?
What's weird?
Just pause off me, you dab dirty.
You damn dirty apes.
What's weird is he's actually making a lot of sense, but he's going to be looked at like a complete lunatic.
Yes, folks.
Michael, you don't get in trouble in the Republican Party for saying crazy things.
You get in trouble for saying sane things.
And so this is going to, this is bad for him.
This is terrible for him.
It's good for the Republicans because he is the most electable of anyone in far.
Yes.
And he has no chance of winning.
Maybe he'll get vice president, but it's like if they had any sense, they'd, and I think he's crazy.
You know, I think his ideas are nuts, but if the Republicans had any sense, they'd get behind him.
I agree.
I agree because he can hand you Ohio and you need that.
But here's.
And he comes off.
If he's debating Hillary and the general, he comes off as a credible guy representing that world of republicanism, whereas Trump or Ben Carson don't.
He says we ought to take 10 or 11 million people and pick them up.
I don't know where we're going to go in their homes, their apartments.
We're going to pick them up.
Yes.
By the way, the base.
By the way, this is the most popular thing with your base right now, John.
The people Who are the base of your party are getting off on this right now?
Yes.
And maybe you aren't really a Republican, John.
If you don't, by the way, when you say, what do you do?
Go into their houses and their apartments.
Do you know what Donald Trump supporters are saying when you say that?
They're saying, yes, go into their apartments and their houses and put them in trucks and take them back to Mexico because they're horrible people.
They're the other.
So when he says this, it's like you're yelling at he's yelling at his own base.
He's yelling at his own party.
So then he follows it up with this.
What has happened to our party?
What has happened to the conservative movement?
Again, Foxification, the Ronald Reagan's merits to the religious right, talk radio, Breitbart, Drudge, Glenn Beck, and Rush Limbaugh happened to your party.
That's what happened to your party.
You can, when you push anti-intellectualism for 50 years, this is the result.
And by the way, he did it himself.
He had a Fox News show, too.
He had a Fox News show.
This is what you've created this, John.
And the problem is, is that nobody said anything.
That's the bigger issue is that he was, this was, this has been happening for 40 years.
He's watched it.
He never said anything.
The more moderate voices in the Republican Party never said anything.
It is more their fault than anybody else's, in my estimation.
I mean, it's the same argument that we have about cops, which is who's worse, the maniac cop or the 10 cops around him who don't report him to internal affairs.
In my estimation, the Republican Party, the biggest problem there was everybody who bit their lip.
Well, that's the problem, right?
Well, that's the unique makeup of the Democrat, I mean, the Republican Party is they fear their base, and the Democrats mock their base.
They disdain their base, right?
They're always, oh, you got to grow up and become a real pop.
That's what they always say.
Oh, you got to grow up.
That's what they would say about the people who were participating in Occupy Wall Street.
All these people going, those people have to understand how politics works.
I think they do understand how politics works, and that's why they're out there protesting because politics are broken.
and now that's so broken that even maniacs like john casick and jeb bush are i can't take it anymore sts no uh...
What?
What?
Hello, Governor Bush.
Now, who's asking?
It's Jimmy Dore.
Oh, hi, Jimmy.
Sorry about that.
You're a little irritable there, Governor, huh?
You're gosh darn right, I am.
I mean, everyone's talking about my campaign like it's over.
It's not over, Jimmy.
It's not over.
Well, you're trailing Trump, Carson, and Rubio in pretty much all the polls.
Well, those are novelty candidates.
I mean, it's like, sure, everybody tried Pig Berry when it first came out, but when it came time to get serious about dessert, they went with good old vanilla ice cream.
I don't know about that metaphor, but you might be right.
Well, sure, I am.
Sure.
Eventually, they'll come around to Jeb.
Jeb's your old, reliable pal.
He's like that comfy sweater you love who wants to overturn Roe v.
Wade.
But will you have enough money to wait that long?
I mean, you cut your staff budget by 40% last week.
Well, my staff expenses were getting a little out of control.
I'll tell you what.
I mean, $100,000 for cocaine.
You can switch to Crystal Meth and save $90,000 right there.
Your campaign is buying cocaine for your staff?
Look, Jimmy, it doesn't matter who may or may not be on massive amounts of stimulants.
What matters is that I am the most experienced leader in the field.
Well, you know, Governor, it seems like Republican voters have a negative opinion of government insiders, and that's why they like Trump and Carson so much.
Jimmy, Republicans are wrong, okay?
They're just wrong with this.
I don't like government nonsense.
Well, to be fair, Governor, your party has actively fomented this position for years.
I didn't.
Yeah, but people like you didn't say anything against it either.
You let it happen.
Well, I didn't want the crazy people to take over.
I just wanted them to vote for me.
Is that so wrong?
Well, Governor, that's how we're getting someone like Ben Carson leading in the polls.
Holy crud, can you believe that?
That guy is totally bananas.
Like, he even lied about having a gun pulled on him in a Popeye.
What the hell is that?
I know.
That was strange.
I mean, if you're going to lie, first of all, go at a nicer restaurant in your lie.
Like, I don't know, Ruth's Chris or Cheesecake Factory.
And second, make it exciting.
Say you fought off a bunch of ninjas or something.
You're sort of preaching to the choir here, Governor.
I hate both him and Donald Trump.
Listen, Jimmy, I've been a member of a lot of country clubs a lot.
Even a few secret country clubs, so Jews don't find out and try to join.
Okay.
Okay.
And there's always one guy like Trump in every club who's always shooting his mouth off about stuff and smacking your penis in the shower.
And I'll tell you what, that's always the guy who ends up throwing up at the Christmas party and making a pass at your wife.
I believe you, Governor.
Is that the kind of president you want?
One that's always throwing up and smacking your balls.
Because if that's what you want, America, I tell you, you don't need this horse hockey.
I got plenty of other things I'd rather do than just have my wife's ass pinched by Captain Como.
Yeah, you said something like that over the weekend about how the Republican Congress doesn't want to do anything.
Yeah, I don't need that nonsense.
I'm a good-looking man.
I can do what I want.
So what would you do if you don't want, if you don't keep running for president?
Well, I'll tell you the first thing I'll do.
What's that?
Let's start eating carbs again.
Give me a loaf of Italian bread and a stick of butter and lock myself in a hotel room for a week, man.
You've been on a diet?
Yeah, I've been on Atkins over here, so I look presidential.
I like that Chris Christie guy.
You could cut that guy open when it's cold and house an entire gypsy family inside him.
Wow, Governor.
Listen, Jimmy, I gotta go.
You have something you need to do?
I don't know.
Probably go tell Iowans to stop puffing paint long enough to vote for me or something.
Well, okay, Governor.
Thanks for talking to us.
Yeah, you take care, Jimmy.
Hey, I feel like we're going to pass out over here.
Would someone give me a protein bar and a bump of Coke, poor favor?
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We didn't get to the Afghanistan story.
Ash Carter, the new defense secretary, his name is Ash.
He went in front of Congress, said that.
Well, guess what?
We're going to be putting boots on the ground to fight ISIS in the Middle East.
Yes, so we're literally, so we've had combat.
We're in combat.
We're back.
War is on.
Full steam ahead.
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We talk about when Barack Obama said we were going to get out of Afghanistan, his proud plan that he announced to get us out, and not his plan to get us back in.
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