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In the wake of the Charleston shootings, pro or con, everyone seems to be excited that the Confederate flag will no longer fly over the South Carolina Statehouse.
I, for one, am not.
First of all, because flags don't fire bullets.
Second of all, that flag was a great warning that let you know that what flew beneath it was pretty terrible.
Let's remember, this is a state that kept Strom Thurman as their senior senator until his dying day.
You know, the guy who ran for president as a segregationist?
South Carolinians looked around their state and said, of all the people in this state, we choose the elderly Jim Crow advocate to represent us.
This is a state that required a two-thirds majority to remove the flag in the first place, which, by the way, was such a poorly written law, it could be defeated by a simple majority, thus showing South Carolina legislators are both bigots and incompetent.
The only thing more accurate flying over that statehouse would be a flag that read, hateful nitwits at work.
That flag is like an F rating on a restaurant wall that lets you know there's actual human feces in the kitchen.
That flag accurately represented the institutional racism that still exists in both the dominant ethos and actual governance of South Carolina.
I'd like to see that flag in more states as a clear warning.
For instance, I think Arizona should fly that flag, but with a flag beneath it that says in parentheses, only for Mexicans.
There was an actual shooting.
An actual racist lunatic walked into an actual church and used an actual gun to kill people because of their symbolic skin tone.
And South Carolina still has the same gun laws.
South Carolina has made new moves to expand access to mental health care.
South Carolina law enforcement hasn't refocused on hate groups.
And South Carolina still has clearly racist voter ID laws and segregationist gerrymandering.
But boy, the symbol that represented all of those still extant problems, that flag is down.
So racism solved, fuckers.
The left thinks they won this minor victory when the truth is, the right won the war by distracting everyone from the real issues with a piece of colored fabric.
We'll be right back.
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Hi, everybody.
Welcome to this week's show.
I'm joining the studio on the phone from New York City and Mystery Science Theater 3000.
It's TV's Frank, Frank Connoff.
Hi, Frank.
How are you?
Hello there.
Yay, good to hear your voice, buddy.
Also with us in the studio, hilarious comedian Robert Yasamura from Team Yasamura.
How are you, Robert?
Ohio.
Ohio is how we say hello in Japanese.
Also, next to him, hilarious comedian, the author of the miserable liberal blog and the host of Comedy and Everything Else, it's our resident Latina, Steph Zamorano.
Hey, Steph, how are you?
Hola, Jimmy.
Hola to you.
Also with us is comedian Michael Schurtzer.
Michael, how are you?
Hey, I'm doing well, Jimmy.
Thanks.
Let's get to the jokes before we get to the jokes, shall we?
Do you know in honor that George W.'s Bush's birthday is this week?
Whoa.
And in honor of George W. Bush's birthday, I want everybody to take a moment, do something arrogant and stupid that fucks everything up.
4th of July brings an honor.
I'm proud to be an American.
You know, yesterday, the random geographical happenstance of my birth was an amazing achievement on my part.
Hey, did your Governor Huckabee have some more to say about gays?
Did you hear about this?
He thinks that married homosexuals loving each other way more perverted than married heterosexuals not loving each other.
Whoa.
That's Governor Huckabee.
And Jim Carrey, Jim Carrey, by the way, he made some Twitter news.
Did you hear he tweeted out about vaccines again?
Really?
Yeah.
Saying that they shouldn't put, yeah, he's scaring people and he's losing Twitter followers like crazy.
For instance, one of his Twitter followers he lost was that first person to die of measles in 12 years.
So sad because normally I look to him for all of my social policy making thoughts.
I certainly, well, just on science.
Yeah, just generally, guys.
Just biomedicine.
I go to the show.
I figure he slept with Jamie McCarthy.
He must know something I don't.
He certainly experienced things you've never experienced.
Like maybe an orgasm that starts at his toes.
Or the fulfillment of every male fantasy ever in one person.
He did a movie after he slept with a cum and cummer.
Did you see that?
*laughter*
Did you hear there's a new film coming out about young Hans Solo?
Really?
Yes.
So, because you know, when I hear the words Star Wars and prequel, I just know.
It simply can't miss.
You know, there's been a backlash against Donald Trump's racism.
Really?
Yeah, I guess.
I haven't heard.
Well, it's because this racism comes as such a big shock after all his years of racism.
It's so disgraceful how Donald Trump only cares about publicity.
Or so, say, the cable news shows that talk about him constantly.
That's what I'm hearing every day.
I'm hearing every day on the cable news shows about how much Donald Trump is a publicity whore.
They just keep telling me that over and over and over.
So did you know that guy Jeff Foxworthy did you might be a redneck if, right?
If your house has wheels, you might be a redneck.
Something like that.
Well, we're doing a thing of you might be a racist.
Yeah, you might be a racist if pointing out the racism of Democrats decades ago is how you defend the racism of Republicans today.
You might be a racist if your catchphrase is you're fired and that isn't even remotely the most Despicable thing about you.
You might be a racist if you're sworn in as the next Republican president of the United States.
Thanks.
Hey, Bill Cosby, a little bit of egg on his face this week.
I think other things on his face, too.
Yeah.
You know what's weird, too?
Cosby wanted to stop baggy pants and curse words from ruining society, but alas, he was too busy drugging and raping women.
You know, Jimmy, yes, Frank.
That deposition that was sealed, he was so intent on keeping it secret that he put it in an episode of the Cosby Mystery.
Jerry about the Florida State football player.
They had a new quarterback who hit a woman right in the face on videotape.
Oh, I saw that.
Yeah.
Yeah, security camera caught him hitting her right in the face in a bar, and they suspended him indefinitely.
But I got to say, I got to say, and this might be unpopular, but from the video footage alone, it looks like he's ready to go pro and also keep in mind that the name of the bar was she was asking for it.
That's right.
Jared about Jared, the subway guy, the trouble to looking into him, maybe possible child kiddie porn.
Sure, yeah.
Which isn't as cute as it sounds.
I know, you'd think there would be like a lot more ponies involved.
There aren't.
Subway may have helped Jared lose weight, but ultimately, think about this.
They did a disservice to children by making him harder to run away from.
To be fair, Jared just said he lost weight at Subway.
He never said it cured his pedophilia.
No, no, it's not.
So he never claimed that Subway would cure your pedophilia, so I don't see why they're dismissing him.
Right.
Well, and in fairness to Jared, they haven't charged him with a crime.
The FBI, if you saw the video, the FBI raid shows gloved investigators carrying electronics out of his house.
They had gloves on so not to contaminate the crime scene, and because the electronics were discovered under a mountain of jizz.
So that's.
also, you know, the spokesman, it turns out the spokesman for Quiznos is into German fisting.
Both sides do it.
Both sides do it.
Both sides do do it.
Hey, you know, I want to do one more Fourth of July joke I forgot to do.
I was wondering, I was just thinking, do you think everyone ever referenced our first president, the founder of this nation, as George Martha Washington?
Because that would be funny.
Okay, what's coming up on today's show?
We're going to take a look at the interview skills of the Sunday afternoon talk shows.
News rights that people like, we're going to look at George Snuffalopagus and Chuck Todd.
One interviewed Ricky Bobby Perry, and the other interviewed Ted Crazy Cruz.
And we're going to take a look at their skills.
Plus, Whoopi Goldberg defending Bill Cosby.
We'll take a look at that.
Plus, all the right-wing leaders and politicians who are distancing themselves from Donald Trump.
We take a look at that.
Plus, shootings in Chicago.
What's the real cause?
Is it the heat?
We'll take a look at it.
Plus, we got phone calls today from Ron Paul, Chris Christie, Paula Dean, and a lot, lot, lot more.
That's today on the Jimmy Dore Show.
Now, let's remember what's wrong with the corporate news today, right?
I remember this is back from December when Chuck Todd on Press to Meet brought on some comedians, excluding myself.
He had Kamal Bell, Lewis Black, and a writer, a female writer for a Freakwood show.
But they were talking about, and here's what Chuck Todd said.
I don't know if you remember this.
What should we take away from the fact that political satirical news in some ways is more popular, obviously, than what we're doing, or is sometimes in some cases more trusted?
You know, you see these things where Jon Stewart's more trusted than the evening news anchors.
Yeah, well, that's because he tells more truth than you guys.
That would be why.
It's because you guys suck.
Yeah, and you suck.
It's not a mystery that you're beholden to corporate talking points.
He acts like it's a big mystery.
Like it's some kind of a if we could just investigate this and come up with this reason no one has thought of.
No, it's it's it's black and white.
We know why people trust Jon Stewart because he tells the truth way more often than you do.
So and then Chuck Todd answered his own question.
Yes.
And here's the answer.
We all sit there because we all know the first time we bark, it's the last time we do the show.
There's something sometimes that's the last time you're ever all of a sudden nobody will come on your show.
Right.
There is that balance between so he's more concerned.
So what Chuck Todd just admitted there was that he is more concerned with his career prospects and ratings than actual journalism.
Right.
Because if he was more concerned about journalism than his career or ratings, then maybe Meet the Press would be relevant to people like Jon Stewart is.
Right.
Okay.
Especially the show is called Meet the Press.
Called Meet the Press.
But you're not meeting the press, are you, Steph?
Who are you meeting?
Who?
You're just meeting some random people, it seems like.
It's never the press.
I mean, there's no funny.
It should be called Meet Your Friends.
Yeah.
The tall people that they socialize with and are friends with.
Yes.
Yes.
Yeah, meet your favorite war criminal.
It could be called that.
It could be called that.
Meet your favorite person who's letting America down.
Who could that be?
Who could that be?
Also, another good name for would be Inside Softball.
Yeah.
That would be great.
Now, George Snuffalupagus sat down with the dumbest man ever to be tech governor of Texas.
Strong words.
Think about that.
And guess what?
Snuffalupigis didn't lay a glove on him.
Did not lay a glove on him.
So Snuffle Upigis' first question to Ricky Bobby Perry was why should the American people pick you instead of all the other candidates out there?
And here's how he started out.
Well, I think the American people are taking a look at these candidates and they're really starting to focus on them now.
Oh, really?
The American...
He goes on.
And what I hear as I travel across the country is that people care about who's going to be able to get this economy going, who's going to be able to keep this country safe, who can secure the border.
Being a former Air Force pilot, and Lindsey Graham and I are the only two that ever won the uniform of the country.
Did you know that?
That Lindsey Graham and Rick Perry are the only two guys running for president in the GOP field who were former military guys.
Did you know that?
I didn't know that.
But Lindsey Graham was a whack.
What is that?
Women's auxiliary corps.
Oh, I thought Lindsey Graham and Rick Perry were both in the Friends of Dorothy squadron, flying in the Enola Gay.
That's what I thought they were flying.
Well, you remember him and...
But you don't need to be in the pew every Sunday to know that there's something wrong in this country when gays can serve openly in the military, but our kids can't openly celebrate Christmas.
Yeah.
Do you notice how he said openly?
Gays can serve openly.
We're supposed to serve in quiet, you guys.
He goes on to talk about Trump, right?
So here's what he has to say.
Fact is, I've said very clearly that Donald Trump does not represent the Republican Party.
I was offended by his remarks.
Listen, Hispanics in America and Hispanics in Texas from the Alamo to Afghanistan have been extraordinary people, citizens of our country and of our state.
Okay, so apparently the governor of Texas doesn't remember the Alamo.
Yes, the former governor of Texas.
Yes, and you know who else has served our country great from Muslim Americans from 9-11 to Syria.
They've really, because I don't know if you remember, but the Hispanic Americans at the LMO were fighting against America.
I don't know if you've noticed that.
And guess what?
America lost.
America lost that one.
So that's the one he's bringing.
You know how they've served gallantly, the people who tried to fight against our country.
That's a bad metaphor, Rick.
But thanks for bringing it up.
I just love how he says openly.
And by the way, not for nothing, but he says Donald Trump doesn't represent the Republican Party.
I think Donald Trump does very accurately represent the point of view of the Republican Party.
Well, you know, when they say that he doesn't represent the Republican Party, it's only contradicted by the Republican Party that put him number two in the polls.
Yeah.
The Republicans.
Donald Trump is just a crude, loud version of what they all think already, anyway.
Yes.
Yes.
He's putting the accurate face on the sentiments of the GOP.
They say that Donald Trump's doing this to appeal to the base.
So what does that say about the base?
That the base of your party are all racists?
Well, my point is now, here's George Snuffalubigis.
Just lets Rick Perry, Ricky Bobby just spew a bunch of inaccurate garbage about the economy.
And here we go.
He said last month that America's on course to the failed policies of Detroit and Greece.
So Rick Perry said last month, America's on the course of the same failed policy of Detroit and Greece.
And he doesn't stop and say, you realize that those two aren't related in any way whatsoever.
He didn't stop and say that.
You know, it doesn't make any sense that you're just trying to incite people with buzzwords to make them think liberalism had something to do with anything.
And also that we're great.
We're in great shape.
We've recovered from the recession better than any of the Western countries.
Right.
Well, except by far and away.
Except for Canada, who didn't really go into it because they didn't deregulate their banks.
Right.
Right.
And Iceland.
Greece is America if McCain or Robbie had been elected.
Yes, Greece would be.
Yes, right.
America would be Greece because we'd be living in austerity, correct?
Yes.
Let's hear a little bit more.
He said last month that America's on course to the failed policies of Detroit and Greece.
Yes, first, remember how Detroit went bankrupt because of liberal policies of forcing its largest employer to ship manufacturing to Mexico?
Remember?
That's what the liberals made them do in Detroit.
And then remember how Greece collapsed because GM shipped all their jobs to Mexico too?
Fucking liberals.
Thanks, Obama.
So here we go.
President Obama's team points out that the private sector is out of jobs 64 months in a row.
We saw those unemployment figures 5.5%.
Thanks to Texas.
Interesting assertion, Rick.
Thanks to Texas.
Let's explore what you just said.
Yes.
So he goes on.
Texas, thanks to Texas.
Well, think about that.
From 07, the end of 2007 through 2014, George, 1.5 million jobs were created in one place, one state, and that's Texas.
While the rest of the country lost 400,000 jobs.
So he's talking about their job growth in Texas.
He doesn't talk about their cancer growth or bronchitis growth or methane growth or the stunting of your growth because of null regulations.
But it's too bad Stephanopoulos can't counter him because there's no such thing as like an internet or something like that.
You can find facts and statistics that might counter what he's saying.
So what they're talking, what Rick Perry is pushing is that old debunked meme of the Texas miracle, but the Texas miracle really is about oil and gas.
So they've been going crazy with the oil and gas, especially because they learned how to frack and now they are fracking all over Texas.
So in fact, in fact, of course, you can't blame George Stephanopoulos really for not pushing back against that.
It's not like the New York Times columnist Gail Collins published a book entitled, As Texas Goes, How the Lone Star Hijacked the American Agenda.
So it's not like that, right?
It's not like every year the Texas legislators update a publication since 2003 entitled Texas, Texas on the Brink, which provides rankings meant to point out the state's worst deficiencies, such as being last in the percentage of the adult population who graduated from high school, while being the first among the states in carbon dioxide emissions and in their share of the population lacking health insurance.
Number one, Texas, number one.
Jimmy, wasn't it even during all those firestorms that they were having about two or three years ago that the fire department even had to go and buy their own gear?
Yes, they had cut back.
They'd cut back on the money they were spending to fight fires.
They had a horrible wildfire season.
And they have entire towns that don't have water and don't have potable water.
And they started making their roads gravel again in Texas, right, because they couldn't maintain them.
So they did that.
A lot of bad things happen.
So they don't talk about this.
In fact, so the reason why he gets to tout these numbers of the economy in Texas is because of the oil boom and fracking.
From 1998 to 2014, the oil GDP in Texas doubled.
Right.
Meanwhile, the share of Texas economy produced by information, communications, technology sectors is actually 27% smaller than it was in 1998.
So thanks to fracking and the other new drilling techniques, plus historically high world oil prices, Texas oil production increased by 126% just between 2010 and 2013.
So they over 100% increase in oil.
So that's when he's, so that's all.
And that's got nothing to do with his policies.
That's got nothing to do with his economy.
That's got to do with they figured out how to get gas out of rocks.
That's all that is.
And George Snuffalufigis, here comes his pushback.
You ready?
Because without Texas, this country would have been 1.1 million jobs below water.
The rest of the country has caught up in Colombia now at this point.
12 million jobs created over the last six years.
That was it, kind of under his breath, kind of as an aside.
Bam, you've been snuffle up against it.
He just let Rick Perry spew a ton of BS, and that's your point.
And he seems kind of agreeing with him, too, when he says, oh, the rest of the country caught up.
Yes.
Yes, so he validates what Rick Perry just said, and he kind of mumbles under his breath about the nation creating 12 million jobs in that same time.
It's just amazing to me.
Yes, that's how journalism is done today in corporate TV, Frank.
You push back under your breath as a throwaway, so nobody pays attention.
And Ricky Bobby doesn't look bad, so he'll come back on your show if he ever gets more popular.
And let's just be clear: he knew George Stephanopoulos knew the talking points that Rick Perry would hit.
They're not, it doesn't take Creskin to know that he was going to say these things.
Here comes some more of that, Robert.
Here comes some more of that.
Exactly what you could predict he was going to say.
What I would bring into this country is a positive view about how you get Americans back to work again.
Tax-wise, regulatory-wise, we got an EPA that's job killing.
This piece of executive order that he put into place to force overtime, that's a job killer.
This president has been putting job-killing regulations into place through his agencies and through executive orders.
The exact opposite is true from what he said.
So, putting more money into the pockets of working people helps the economy.
We've known this since FDR.
We know that's what's wrong with austerity.
That's why austerity never gets you out of a recession or a depression.
And so, he's saying the exact opposite of what is known to be economic fact.
And George Snuffalopagus lets him say it.
He goes on: I know how to create jobs.
You free people from over-taxation, over-regulation.
You use the energy resources in North America.
I think that you.
So, he's just saying supply-side economics.
He's just saying trickle-down economics, trickle-down.
Let's hear it.
I'll give him the whole running start.
Create jobs.
You free people from over-taxation, over-regulation.
You use the energy resources in North America.
I think that you can drive down electricity costs.
You couple that with corporate tax policy, lower the corporate tax rate, does two things, George.
Not only will it raise mid-level wages, but it'll also give incentives to those companies to come back onshore.
Okay, so this is all BS.
He's saying lower corporate taxes will see a rise in workers' compensation, which we know that's not true because corporations are flush with cash.
We did a segment, Jim Kramer came on embarrassed with how much money corporations are making this year, that they're going to be so embarrassed that you're going to get a raise.
That's what he said.
That's how corporations raise.
They get so embarrassed with how much money they have, they don't really reward you for your work.
They don't reward you for your production.
They just have to wait till they get embarrassed.
So we know that's not true.
So he's saying, give them even more.
He's just saying supply-side trickle-down economics.
That's all he's saying.
And here, let's hear how George pushes back.
With the lower electricity prices, with the incentive of a lower corporate tax rate, and you can have a renaissance of manufacturing in this country like we have never seen before.
Let's talk about national security.
He just goes on to the next thing.
He just goes on to he lets him spew for about two minutes about how regulations are giving money to workers is bad, how we got to cut corporate, all the things that have gotten us to this point with the biggest income disparity since the Gilded Age.
Workers haven't seen a raise since 1980.
All the money is being concentrated in a few hands.
So none of that stuff does he's pushed back.
None of it.
He doesn't say anything.
George Snuffle.
He just moves.
It's like a robot.
Oh, let's move on to the next topic.
Yeah, okay.
That's what you just said.
Yeah, thanks for completely misinforming my audience.
I'm not even going to tell them anything you said wasn't true.
I'm just going to move on.
Yeah, but his hair looks great.
His hair does look fantastic.
Now, regular listeners will remember that Governor Rick Perry got a little upset with us at the Jimmy Door show because he was afraid that in the sketches, the writers kept writing him to say these closeted homosexual things.
And anyway, he was upset, and we promised to stop doing that.
I got him on the phone earlier today to talk about his appearance with George Snuffalopeus, and let's see what he had to say.
Hello, is this Governor Perry?
Hey, how are you doing?
This is Governor Rick Perry, Texas.
Hey, hey, Governor, this is Jimmy Doer.
How are you?
I don't know who you are, man.
Listen.
Listen, Governor, I just wanted to ask you about your interview you did with George Snuffalopagus on A. What's up?
I wanted to ask you about your questions that he was asking you.
Oh, I enjoyed the hell out of that interview.
What?
What, George Snuffalopagus?
I believe it's Stephanopoulos.
Yes, it is.
Why did you enjoy the interview?
Which is great for Stephen and then something.
I think he is just adorable.
He's like a little fragile with beautiful little salt.
He's tiny.
He's tiny.
Just this little spinner of a news guy.
That beautiful mop of salt and pepper hair.
And then just the way he looks.
He's got a glint and a sparkle in his eyes.
You know, it's not malicious.
It's just.
Oh, goddammit.
I did it again.
God damn it.
Fuck, man.
Every time you call me, you trick me into this shit.
Fuck you, Jimmy Door.
All right, that's good.
Thank you, Ricky Bobby.
Ricky.
Thank you.
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Hey, welcome back to the Jimmy Door show.
We got a lot coming up in the second half.
We're going to get back to our discussion about what a horrible interview job our Sunday newsman dude, Chuck Todd, George Snuffalopigis, had Ricky Bobby Perry and Ted Cruz on their shows this week, interviewed both of them.
They didn't lay a glove on either of them.
We're going to get back to our discussion about that.
But we got some phone calls coming up.
Bill Cosby calls in Paula Dean.
now we got a phone call from Ron Paul.
Stop, stop.
Liberty.
Hello, is this Ron Paul?
Well, yes, it is.
And who do I have the pleasure of addressing?
Hey, it's Jimmy Dore.
Oh, Jimmy.
How are you doing?
I'm fine.
Thanks for asking.
Good, good, good.
What are you up to, Dr. Paul?
Well, I was saying how I wanted to paste on my new eyebrow.
Do I want to look serious or sympathetic or surprised?
I wanted to ask you about your son, Rand Paul.
Oh, God, now, what?
Did he forget to put on his tracking device?
Sometimes they chew through the leash.
I was wondering why Rand Paul met with Clive and Bundy, the rancher who had an armed standoff against federal authorities.
Well, Rand, I just want to get some policy advice or offer him a cabinet position or something.
I see that Chris Christie's been really attacking your son's presidential campaign in the press.
Oh, sure, Rand was always a target for bullies when he was growing up.
You know, he's small, you know.
A target for bullies?
Yeah.
At school, fatty Wilfred Baumgartner would push the ran around and steal his inhaler.
Wow, that sounds horrible.
I had the hearts for Wilfred's mother, Eunice.
She was a comely maiden with a glass eye that sparkled in the sunlight.
We would talk in the parking lot when we dropped the little kiddos off at a public school.
I warned Rand that the teachers work for the government and therefore agents of the Federal Reserve.
He would just copy up other people's work anyway.
Why didn't you get Eunice to stop her son bullying Rand?
Well, to be honest, there wasn't much I could do.
Rand wasn't the brightest light bulb in the knife drawer.
He would always be swallowing his bubble gum.
Yeah, well, that can accidentally happen, swallowing gum.
Yeah, but he'd eat it every day.
Like huge globs of hubba-bubba gum.
Remember again?
Yeah.
To this day, his stool samplers are still pink.
But you're proud of your son, right?
Oh, yeah, just sure I am.
Well, what do you think of the Confederate flag being taken down from South Carolina?
I think it's just horrible.
Why?
Because of Ram.
What do you mean?
You can't be banning flags.
That's just not constitutional.
Will there be some government agency going through every trailer park or shacks by the river looking for Confederate flags?
No, I don't think that's going to happen.
Knock knock.
Any Hasties, hillbellies, or the skiers in there?
So give up your Confederate flag.
Listen, I don't think that's going to happen like that.
Knock knock.
Anyone ticking their nose or eating mayonnaise sandwiches, watching Duke's Hazard reruns in there?
Okay.
Dr. Paul, I don't think that's going to happen.
Knock, knock.
Any redneck, mouth-breathing sister fuckers in there?
Dr. Paul, please.
Knock knock.
Anyone who writes for the Ron Paul newsletters?
Listen, Dr. Paul, nobody's banning flags.
I still don't know what I'm going to do with all that Confederate money I keep in the Trump.
You have Confederate bunny?
Well, yeah, I'll keep it in the Camry.
The one with the dam from when I was backing up in the driveway, and Rand was attracted to the brake line.
Dr. Paul, I think.
That was funny.
Yeah, I think.
That happened in real life.
Dr. Paul, I think I should let you go.
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Hey, welcome back to the Jimmy Dore show.
Let's get back to the studio where I'm joined on the phone from New York City.
You know him.
You love him from Mystery Science Theater 3000.
It's TV's Frank Frank Conniff, Robert Yasamura, Steph Zamorano, and Michael Surter.
And we're talking about the horrible job being done by Chuck Todd and George Snuffalopagus.
Let's rejoin our conversation.
So now let's move on to the panel discussion.
So there was a panel discussion, George Snuffalopeus.
He's got, so he's got on Julian Castro, who is the three-time mayor of San Antonio, Texas, and a liberal.
And so he's making the point about Donald Trump thusly.
But I think what's egregious about Donald Trump is that he tries to imply because one guy committed a crime, that all immigrants and all people from Mexico are like that.
And that is incredibly offensive.
So what he's talking about is that guy in San Francisco who was a five-time deported guy, shot, shot somebody randomly in San Francisco.
And Ronald Trump seized on it and said, see, I told you the immigrants are criminals, which we all know, they've done studies.
People who immigrate to America come here to work, right, and to have a better life.
They don't come here to commit crimes.
In fact, immigrants commit less crimes than the people who already live here.
So they've done no studies.
Immigrants, less crime, less, less.
So the exact opposite of what is what of the reality is what Donald Trump is saying, right?
He's saying immigrant Mexicans actually commit less crimes than other people.
He's saying we got to be more afraid of them than anybody.
And so that's what this guy's referring to.
And guess what Bill Crystal says back?
Well, he didn't quite say that.
And to the drugs.
He did say that.
He did say that.
Every responsible Republican has denounced that.
And so Bill Crystal, every responsible, well, here's Senator Ted Cruz.
Let's see what he said.
Did he renounce it?
I salute Donald Trump to address illegal immigration.
He salutes him.
He salutes him.
So Bill Kristol, full of it.
And then, in fact, the other guy said Jeb Bush did too.
So they've all denounced it.
And then George Nufalubikis just let it happen.
He didn't come in as the referee and say, you guys are wrong about this.
Ted Cruz is.
Well, let's hear what Reince Priebus had to say.
Here's what Reince Priebus had to say.
Not every comment's helpful.
But who's Reins Priebus?
He's the head of the RNC.
So that's why, so when Bill Kristol says every responsible Republican has denounced him, I just showed you Ted Cruz, who didn't.
And here is Reince Priebus, the RNC guy.
Not every comment's helpful.
But you know what?
I don't agree with my wife on everything either.
Oh, my God.
So that's how he denounced, that's how he denounced because his wife's a racist.
Turns out his wife's a racist, too.
His wife wears a wig as well.
I guess so.
So here's when they come back.
So they show that on NBC's Press the Meet.
And when they come back from Reince Priebus not really distancing himself from Donald Trump, this is what Chuck Todd says.
Look, this is a tough call for Reince Priebus.
I don't envy him here.
On one hand, he wants to play referee.
You know, inside he'd love to totally denounce, but they don't want to alienate part of the party.
You know, inside, so Chuck Todd, who, by the way, I got into a Twitter fight with because when he was interviewing Mike Huckabee about the Confederate flag, someone said, why don't you just say what it is, a racist symbol?
Why didn't you say that some people say?
And he said, I don't insert my opinion.
The interview wasn't about me.
It was about my guest.
It's not about my opinion.
And I wrote, that's the problem with Main Street Journalism today.
They can't tell the difference between an opinion and a fact.
It's a fact that the Confederate flag is a symbol of white supremacy.
And he's pretending like it's an opinion.
And so I'm not going to put my opinion in there.
Yet he has no problem being a fucking mind reader when it comes to dismissing Reines Priebus's horrible action.
And by the way, Chuck Todd, as you know, a couple weeks ago did, right after the Charleston shooting, did that film segment of nothing but black shooters.
Which caused a lot of people were upset about it.
And he said in his statement, well, it's good when we make viewers uncomfortable after he said on that comedy panel that we don't want to make our guests uncomfortable.
Right.
People objected to him to that statement on Twitter, and he blocked everybody who had anything to say about it.
He blocked everyone who criticized him.
That's how tough he is.
Chuck Todd, you mean?
Yeah, Chuck Todd.
Well, I don't know.
I think I'd like news reported a little bit more like that.
I think what they were saying.
Yeah.
So here, I want to play it one more time.
I just want to play here is so Reince Priebus says this about Donald Trump.
Not every comment's helpful.
But you know what?
I don't agree with my wife on everything either.
So what a despicable way to handle somebody in your party who is being unbelievably publicly racist and smearing a whole ethnicity of people.
Right?
So here, and here's Chuck Todd.
Look, this is a tough call for Reines Priebus.
Tough call.
It's a tough call.
Do you call out a guy who's being blatantly racist?
Even mattress companies are leaving Donald Trump.
Yes, it's true.
That's a really great point, is that businesses are not hesitating to distance themselves for him.
But the head of his party, it's a tough call.
Tough call.
And Chuck Todd sympathizes with the tough call of the RNC guy.
And so this is the same guy, Chuck Todd, who doesn't want to put his opinion into a news story.
Listen to this.
Look, this is a tough call for Reince Priebus.
I don't envy him here.
On one hand, he wants to play referee.
And you know, inside he'd love to totally denounce.
So he's a mind reader.
How does he know that, first of all?
He's a mind reader.
He knows that Reines Priebus is super good guy.
He said, oh, it isn't about my opinion.
Yes.
And yet, here he is inserting his opinion.
Oh, he must be thinking this.
I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt.
Totally going to give Reince Priebus the benefit of the doubt for defending a racist.
Totally going to totally whitewash what, ironically, what he just did.
So we're going to get, let's get back to some more of the crappy interviewing skills of the Sunday show hosts.
So here he, so he's Chuck Todd, who can see into the heart and mind of Reince Priebus, the RNC chairman, and know he's a better guy than he is publicly.
That's what he just said.
He said Reince Priebus is a better guy than he's appearing publicly.
That is what Chuck Todd is doing.
That's what he's doing with his news show.
He just so that Republicans and Reince Priebus will come on his show.
Yes.
You didn't notice that he inadvertently just said like what we all know to be true, which is there is a substantial base within the Republican Party who are full-blown bigots.
Right.
Period.
And what he inadvertently just said was Rance Priebus can't afford to piss them off.
Right.
Like, wow.
So he has to go along with racism in order to win an election is what he's saying.
You're right, Robert.
Let's listen.
But they don't want to alienate part of the party.
What would you be doing here?
They don't want to alienate part of the party.
You know, the racist part.
Right.
That's what he's saying.
Yeah.
Here he is wrapping it up with Ted Cruz.
And let's just, he just let, he's talking about how Obama, he goes, what's the thing you like about Obama?
Which is a crappy question.
And it's a softball question.
He just tees it up for Ted Cruz.
And Ted Cruz says this.
I think he believes in all of his hearts, in his principles.
I think he fights for them relentlessly.
So he says, I think Barack Obama believes in his principles and he fights for them relentlessly, which we all know if his principles are being wishy-washy with workers, unions, liberal policies, then he certainly fights for his wishy-washy viewer.
We know that he's a conservative.
He's a moderate Republican.
He's not a lefty.
He's not a communist.
He's not a socialist.
His biggest legislative achievement is Obamacare, which came from the Heritage Foundation, which is a right-wing answer to our healthcare problems.
Yet, here is George Snuffle up.
I mean, here's Chuck Todd going to let him pretend, gonna let him pretend that what he's doing is somehow lefty.
Let's listen to it again.
I think he believes in all of his hearts, in his principles.
I think he fights for them relentlessly.
If I were a leftist, I would love Barack Obama because he has advanced the left-wing progressive agenda more than any president in history.
So that couldn't be less true.
That couldn't be less true.
Okay.
Of course, we all know the most liberal president was FDR.
We know that.
For a fact, he set the template for how to deal with our problems, and we've ignored him because Barack Obama isn't a lefty.
You guys know the lefty principle of suspending habeas corpus.
Yeah, you know that, of drone killing, discriminant drone bombing.
Right, ramping up wars all over the country, not prosecuting people for torture or war crimes.
You know those lefty principles.
Anyway, liberal principles.
Liberal principles.
So he just lets him say that stuff.
He's going to say more.
Now, I think the problem is the ideas he believes are profoundly dangerous.
That millions of Americans have been hurt by exploding government regulations and taxes that have taken away jobs and opportunity.
Okay, so again, it's just from the playbook of Republican.
None of that stuff is true.
It's all in fact the opposite.
They've increased jobs 64 months in a row.
And he doesn't say.
And so here, here we go.
I admire that he stands and fights for his principles.
Senator Cruz, I got to leave it there.
Thanks for coming in.
Thanks for coming in.
Got to leave it there.
Hey, thanks for spewing the most crazy, unsubstantiated, untethered from reality talking points I've ever heard.
So Chuck Todd, what he did, and here's how he wraps it up.
Listen.
We could have gone another half hour just on foreign policy.
We could have gone another half hour just on foreign policy, he says to Ted Cruz.
Meaning, I could have provided you a platform to spew inaccuracies and half-truths and outright lies without challenging you on them for another hour.
We could have done that for another hour, but we had to wrap it up.
And here's how they wrap it up.
I hope I'll be back.
Hope to have you back.
Thank you, sir.
Thank you.
You got it.
Thank you, sir.
Hope to have you back.
Thank you.
And then Chuck Todd ends with, you got it.
And not only, so listen to how they wrap it up.
It sounds like Chuck Todd just gave Senator Ted Cruz a jump for his car.
That's how they're ending.
He doesn't sound like he just held his feet to the fire for all the crazy crap he's been spewing or for all the contradictory statements he's made or for all the unproductive policies he's pushed.
It doesn't sound like that at all, like he've held his feet to the fire.
It sounds like he just gave him a jump for his car or pushed him out of a snowbank.
Senator Cruz, I got to leave it there.
We could have gone another half hour just on foreign policy.
So I hope I'll be back.
Ex-Senator Cruz.
Thank you, sir.
Thank you.
You got it.
You got it, buddy.
You got it.
Can I just say something?
I remember watching a film about 15 years ago.
It was a documentary about how talk shows have basically turned into publicity shows.
Like Conan O'Brien was lamenting the fact.
He's like, all I do is get guests who are on a publicity tour.
That's just the way it is.
Right.
Publicists leverage them on me.
It's just the way it's.
It's too bad Conan O'Brien isn't in a position to do something about it.
But the point I'm trying to make frank is that that's what this has turned into.
Yeah, of course.
That's what journalism has turned into.
It has turned into a publicity tour.
It has nothing to do with actual journalism.
It is purely like, oh, we got Ted Cruz.
He's a get.
Yeah, that's it.
You know, like.
Yes.
So Ricky Bobby Perry goes on with George Snuffleup again, and Ted Cruz goes on with Chuck Todd, and neither of them lay a glove on him.
Right.
Neither of them could lay a glove on either of those guys.
Neither of them, neither of them even tried, by the way.
That's the sad part.
You know why politicians don't like to go on with Chuck Todd, but go on comedy shows?
Do you think now politicians use comedy shows to duck real interviews?
Which is obviously my favorite.
I'm not kidding you.
In about a year, I fully expect Chuck Todd to be like, so I understand you brought a clip.
It's true.
It's true.
In all fairness, I think what Chuck Todd wanted to say was he really wanted to ask a hard-hitting question.
And you can tell on the inside he wants to.
I don't envy him.
I don't envy him.
It's a tough call.
It's a tough call for him.
It's a tough call for him.
Bill Cosby has admitted to using qualodes to have sex with women.
And Whoopi Goldberg doesn't really buy it all the way.
Now, let's remember that she has a history of doing this sort of thing.
And she was talking about Roman Polanski, and she said this.
Was not charged.
I know it wasn't rape, rape.
There was a statutory child.
It wasn't rape, rape.
It was rape rape.
So when you take a 13-year-old girl, get her plowed with Quailudes, and then anally violate her, raping her anally, that's not rape, rape to Whoopee.
It's what the kids call rape squared.
Yes.
Yes.
You know, I usually value people who have opinions that differ from the majority, but her overall judgment doesn't make any sense at all.
Whoopi would be the one person on the Titanic saying, yeah, but we're not sinking, sinking.
She defends Roman Polanski.
Even Roman Polanski doesn't defend Roman Polanski.
And so now here's what she's saying about Cosby.
You ready?
Well, here's the deal.
This is the view.
So here she goes.
Well, here's the deal.
This is the view.
Yeah, you know, the place where we defend the indefensible, especially famous rapists.
That's what this is.
Here we go.
And that was my opinion.
And not any of you threatening me or telling me you're coming out because you don't like what I said is going to change the fact that no one has convicted him.
He's talking about Bill Cosby, that no one, that he hasn't been technically convicted in a court of law yet.
So Whoopee Goldberg is admonishing us for jumping to conclusions.
He has not been arrested.
And the bottom line is that's the law.
Innocent until proven guilty.
Yeah, nobody's saying that we should put him in jail without a trial, Whoopee.
We're only drawing obvious conclusions.
But she's talking about the statute of limitations, which also applies to her film career.
If you're the mother of a son, if you're the mother of a son who gets accused, you want to keep innocent until proven guilty.
Yeah, if you're the mother of a son who's been accused by 40 different women of drugging them and raping them, and then we have a deposition where your son admits to it, maybe you should shut up.
Yes.
Just ask.
And then the people applaud.
People are applauding like, yes, lay off Bill Cosby already.
Wait, wait.
Just ask the parents of the boys of the Duke La Crosse team.
Completely not analogous.
No, not at all.
And the Duke La Crosse team, did they confess to it?
I don't remember.
No, there was no deposition where the lacrosse team admitted to it.
No, not at all.
That was actually just a fabricated story, wasn't it?
So that was by one woman who made an accusation.
That was it.
That wasn't 40 women from different parts of the country.
That couldn't be less analogous, but this audience is going nuts for her.
Remember that?
We raped them across the coals, burned them at the stake, took away every opportunity they had of school.
There were not.
And it turns out it wasn't true.
So I think that's the thing.
And by the way, I don't remember specifically the Duke LaCrosse thing, but how many women accused those guys?
One, like I said, it was one woman.
One woman, and that's the same thing as 40-plus women who have no reason to come forward, who have no profit motive and have the same story.
Right, the exact same story.
Oh my god.
Yes.
I think we all, and you, VA, same thing.
We all have a very important role to play when it comes to abuse and rape.
And your role is to apologize for rapists and admonish people who are drawing logical conclusions.
We all have to demand that if it's true, the person is taken to the nth degree of the world and punished.
But how can we demand that, Whoopi, if you have people like you who are castigating people who want that to happen.
She's having trying to have it both ways right here.
No one here thinks rape is good.
No one here thinks rapists are fun.
Nobody here thinks rape or hates women or any of that.
We just think you should shut up about it.
That's all.
When it happens and it comes out in public, shut up about it, especially Roman Polanski and especially Bill Cosby.
If you're rich and famous, especially in entertainment, we're asking you to shut up until after the court case.
Even though Roman Polanski fled the country, we're asking you to shut up because it wasn't rape rape.
I pissed off that more women accused Cosby of rape than saw the movie Burglar.
Ah.
Hello, I'd like to speak to Bill Cosby, please.
Mr. Cosby got our cup to the phone deal to do.
While it's out like a woman in the hotel room who dragged the glass with the thing in the pound cake, schizo-doo.
Mr. Cosby, I wanted to ask you about the statement you made in your 2005 definition.
Mr. Cosby.
Call me Dr. Cosby.
No, I'm not going to do that.
Bill, you admitted in 2005 that you drugged a woman for sex.
Jell-O.
You admitted to having seven different prescriptions for qualities that you used on women.
Schizo, blackado, shimba deed loom.
Bill, you admitted that you drugged women for sex.
Just because I'm drugging Doug, it doesn't mean a rape a date beats different days of concepts not related to the school.
Listen, it is clear that all the women who've come forward have been telling the truth about you.
Well, rest the judgment.
What about the new process of innocent tilde proving of the guilt of the kids with the hip-hop and don't stop to put pots of please damn pants up?
That has nothing to do with your behavior.
Scoop.
Hold on, win.
All those bibbles are cool, cool, crazy in the brain.
I don't think there's anything wrong with their brains, Bill.
Okay.
Don't you think on behalf of all these women that you've drugged and raped, you should face justice?
Stiddly boop.
Eat Scott in the skizzles and the whistles and the heat top.
Listen, Bill.
I can't understand anything you're saying.
I think I accidentally took one of my old qualities.
Have you stopped drugging women for sex, Bill?
Do you know how hard it is to find quay loody doody loody doobie-dooby-doos these days?
No, I don't.
No, I don't know.
Go down the store and be my pop.
What if it's cat?
Bill, Bill.
Bill.
No, you never thought what you were doing was wrong?
I learned one thing.
What?
You drug a rape 51 and nobody lets you forget that motherfucker.
Bill Cosby, you're a serial rapist and you're a fucking horrible human being.
Watch your language.
I don't appreciate that kind of poopy mouth talking.
Really?
You're judging other people when you Listen, I can't talk to you anymore.
Wiggle-a-doo, sponge cake, word bird, baby, sick, room and newbie.
Bill, after what you've done, I don't know how you can live with yourself.
It's indication, money.
All right, that's Bill Cosby.
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People like you who are castigating people who want that to happen.
She's having, trying to have it both ways right here.
No one here thinks rape is good.
No one here thinks rapists are fun.
Nobody here thinks rape or hates women or any of that.
We just think you should shut up about it.
That's all.
When it happens and it comes out in public, shut up about it, especially Roman Polanski and especially Bill Cosby.
If you're rich and famous, especially in entertainment, we're asking you to shut up until after the court case, even though Roman Polanski fled the country.
We're asking you to shut up because it wasn't rape.
I'm pissed off that more women accused Cosby of rape than saw the movie Burglar.
It got unsealed, and the judge said this.
The judge in the ruling said, looking at the incarcerated, these are not.
Oh, wait, the judge was citing Bill Cosby's public moralizing to inner city blacks as why he let this deposition be unsealed.
Because he said, in this case, however, it's not about Bill Cosby's status as a public person by virtue of the exercise of his trade as a televisor communication.
Rather, Bill Cosby has donned the mantle of public moralist and mounted the proverbial electronic or print soapbox to volunteer his views on, among other things, child rearing, family life, education, and crime.
He has voluntarily narrowed the zone of privacy that he is entitled to claim.
And by joining the debate about the merits of the allegations against him, he has further diminished his entitlement to the claim of privacy.
So what they say this guy is referring to is when Bill Cosby made the famous pound cake speech.
And here's a little piece of the pound cake speech that Bill Cosby made.
He said, quote, Bill Cosby said this.
Looking at the incarcerated, these are not political criminals.
These are people going around stealing Coca-Cola, people getting shot in the back of the head over a piece of pound cake.
Then we all run out and are outraged.
The cops shouldn't have shot him, we say.
Well, that, what the hell was he doing with the pound cake in his hand?
That's what Bill Cosby said about inner city blacks.
That the incarcerated deserve to be there, even though we over-police black, just the statistics show you how there's inherent racism in our criminal justice system.
Go ahead, Frank.
He also said everybody doesn't like something, but nobody doesn't like drugging and raping Sarah Lee.
Jesus Christ.
So here.
You know, I think the only way that I could feel any kind of satisfaction with this situation is just placing Bill Cosby with Kwaluds and Whoopee together one night.
Yeah.
So Whoopi, yeah, oh, go ahead.
I'm sorry.
No, no, there's one going to watch.
We want to lock you, Whoopee, and your daughter and Bill Cosby with a handful of Kwaluds in a room for a night.
How does that sound?
No problem.
I just also would like to point out is let's say in a completely implausible scenario that all of these other 40 or so women have come forth with this story and all of it is a lie and all he did was take a, was drug a woman with a quality and rape her that one time.
If that's the case, he still should be in fucking jail.
Yes.
Well, here's, you know, Frank, she makes that exact point.
Here's that exact point right here.
It's so crazy that you brought this up because this is my next point.
Here's what a woman said on the view.
Hiding his testimony with hang on, sorry.
So the reason they sealed the testimony, she's going to give you the, was because that he was a famous person and it would embarrass him.
That's why they sealed that testimony.
And so she says this.
His testimony with that he didn't want to embarrass himself.
That's what it like.
Or his family.
But to me, it's like, don't you think it was more embarrassing for these 40 or so women to come forth?
And well, this was just one woman.
And I believed.
I don't think this, I think this was 2000.
So Whoopee Goldberg says, well, this was just one woman that Crosby drugged for sex.
So let's pretend, pretend that Cosby did this to just one woman.
He's still a rapist.
Yes.
Right.
And when they say that they don't want to embarrass him, that he didn't want to be embarrassed.
Like, he just didn't want to pay out large sums of cash.
You know, he's flush.
It would have been embarrassing otherwise.
I'm going to guess, wow, Whoopee Goldberg, I'm going to guess, has never been the victim of a sexual crime.
I missed your joke.
Yeah, it's okay.
It was a call back to Jim Kramer.
Can I just say, Whoopi Goldberg had the option of saying nothing.
Yes.
Let's always remember that.
That people have the option of saying nothing.
And she.
But when you're the host of the view, though.
Then, no, you know.
Well, the whole point of the show is you have to fill it up by talking about stuff.
Yeah, but she could have said something, you know, not as batshit as what she said.
Yeah.
She could easily have said, like, I'm not ready to talk about this because I don't feel like I have enough information.
That would have been more than satisfactory.
I love what the judge said.
He said, the stark contrast between Bill Cosby, the public moralist, and Bill Cosby, the subject of serious allegations concerning improper and perhaps criminal conduct, is a matter as to which the Associated Press and, by extension, the public, has a significant interest, said Judge Eduardo C. Roberto, he wrote that on Monday.
So that's a great stark contrast.
So it's good to see his moralizing, just as they said in Inherit the Wind, the silent sinners scream the loudest.
So it was his moralizing to cover for his raping that is what got him in trouble.
And thank God, his finger wagging at people, kids with the baggy pants and the single moms and the guys who are incarcerated.
And he's got no answers for them.
He's got no solutions except cut it out and get in line with the white majority.
Right.
Right.
But, Jimmy, let me point out that through all of his drugging and all of his raping, he worked clean.
He didn't curse work.
All right.
That's it.
Great.
Great job.
All right, Frank.
Thank you very much.
Anything you want to do?
Okay, thanks, Jimmy.
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