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you This week, House Speaker John Boehner said he agrees with President Obama that no new gun control laws need to be passed in the wake of the shootings in Colorado.
At least for a brief moment in this tragic time, Obama and Boehner are united in the belief that nothing can be done about it.
Of course, Obama has been criticized long before now for not advocating stricter gun laws.
But he understandably does not want to alienate any swing voters who might need an assault rifle that shoots 100 rounds per minute.
Perhaps in a second term, Obama will feel secure enough to attempt something, but he'll probably be too busy getting stonewalled by Congress on everything he'll be trying to do.
But let's give Obama some credit.
He did work hard to pass the health care law, and nothing's more important than health care, especially after you've been shot.
The truth is, most people don't seem to care that much about gun control.
Most people don't own guns.
Most guns are owned by a minority of citizens in rural areas to protect themselves against Jews, blacks, and Mexicans and prepare for the white Christian revolt.
That's one thing that makes our country truly exceptional in the world.
Look at all the guns we have, yet groups of people are randomly murdered only once in a while.
The more common tragedy is the law-abiding gun owner who accidentally kills a member of his own family, or, more ironically, gets shot by one of them.
A couple of weeks ago, a three-year-old boy in Indiana shot and killed his father while the family was watching TV.
The father was keeping the gun for protection and left it lying around.
This is a senseless tragedy, although we can take some comfort from the knowledge that the gun killed the least innocent person in the room.
Gun control is a lot like the healthcare issue because it forces Americans to imagine how other people feel, which as a group we cannot do.
Why do people who do not get shot have to suffer because other people did?
Meanwhile, let's not allow one twisted individual's violent, meaningless act in a movie theater make us feel guilty about enjoying beautifully crafted violence that actually means something.
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Welcome to this week's episode.
I am joined in studio, former writer for The Daily Show, Hilarious Comedian.
It's Steve Rosenfield.
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How are you today?
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Next to you, host of Comedy and Everything Else, it's Steph Zamorano with a Latina.
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Hi, Steph.
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Okay, so next across mute, it's from Mystery Science Theater 3000.
It's Frank Connip.
Hi, Frank.
How are you, buddy?
Hello, there.
And I have on the phone with us, it's Mike McRae as Mitt Romney today.
Hi, Mitt.
How are you?
Oh, I'm doing just fine.
How are you?
Okay, Mitt.
We're going to tell some jokes and then we're going to get right into it, okay?
Am I about to be a part of the oh my gosh segment?
Yes, you are about to be part of the Obama.
Okay.
Okay.
Well, before we get to Mitt Romney, Sally Ride, the first woman in space, sadly has passed away at the age of 61 from pancreatic cancer.
And her lifelong partner won't get federal benefits because her committed relationship that lasted 27 years was a danger to society.
Yes, indeed.
Not so funny, but still.
Hey, it was on Twitter.
It was.
I probably didn't say it right.
We can cut all this out.
Hey.
No, it's poignant.
You can have one in in your show as well.
In the wake of the Colorado shooting, there is another call for sensible gun regulation.
But before we give into the knee-jerk liberal idiots, let's first remember who really gets hurt by gun control.
It's the everyday sportsman who wants to hunt animals with assault weapons and booby trap their apartments.
Very big on Twitter.
The Dem, but guess what?
The Dems and the Republicans are working together at being too afraid of the NRA to do a damn thing about gun control.
Ah, this is what bipartisanship looks like.
That's right.
Again, welcome to Poignant Week.
What is this, PBS?
You know, I don't know if you guys are film buffs.
I smell Peabody.
I don't know if you guys are film buffs like myself, but I love the movies.
And now we've had five X-Men movies, four Spider-Man movies, and eight Batman movies.
I am so looking forward to a change of pace that will be brought on by the third Iron Man and the sixth Superman.
What's coming up today?
We got Mitt Romney on the phone.
We're going to talk to him about his flip-flopping on abortion and a few other issues.
Plus, it's kind of a loosey-goosey show again this week because guess who's got to leave town and go to Montreal to tell jokes?
It's me.
So we're taking...
So if something big happens and we don't talk about it, it's because we're taping the show on Tuesday, right?
Today's Tuesday.
Am I correct?
Okay.
I got to get another.
So can we assume that you're going to go to another country and apologize for America?
Yeah, you know what?
You're right.
You're right.
A lot of people at the Montreal Festival have to apologize for comedy.
Frank, but I don't know.
Now, Mitt, I was watching the MSNBC and they did.
I thought they got snobbed at the Hyatt.
Now, Mitt, they did a takedown of you on MSNBC the other day, and I was watching it, and I just want to play a couple of clips because it's just about the way you've flip-flopped on abortion.
Oh, boy.
So now you originally, when you...
This is how you viewed it.
I had a dear, close family relative that was very close to me who passed away from an illegal abortion.
It is since that time that my mother and my family have been committed to the belief that we can believe as we want, but we will not force our beliefs on others on that matter.
And you will not see me wavering on that.
Ouch.
So, Mitt, laugh it up.
Now, you said that we won't see you wavering on that.
You're the wizard of wavering place.
Now, Mitt, now it.
Oh, I can't be laughing at that.
No, you should not.
He wavered on that.
Now, Mitt, now.
First of all, let me make it clear that that story about a family member, completely made up.
So I think once that that is made clear, I think it's a little bit better.
That's my original position on this position.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
All right.
Well, at least it makes sense then.
Okay.
So that really didn't happen, and you made that story up.
But then, I mean, even during the debates, you were very – Now, this is when you were running for governor.
So this is, again, a couple years later, you're running for governor.
You said this.
And I'm convinced I will be.
I will preserve and protect a woman's right to choose if I do not take the position of a pro-life candidate.
I'm in favor of preserving and protecting a woman's right to choose.
Okay, so you said right there you're in favor of protecting a woman's right to choose, but then you said this.
I never called myself pro-choice.
I never allowed myself to use the word pro-choice because I didn't feel I was pro-choice.
Well, I didn't say it.
I didn't say I was pro-choice in that first clip.
I didn't say it.
I said I wasn't pro-life.
No.
And we're crying out loud.
How the dickens you think I'm going to get elected governor of Massachusetts?
Yeah, but Mitt, that's what I'm talking about.
I mean, what do you expect out of me, Bub?
Okay, let's move on then, okay?
Because then you then went on to say...
To say that.
So you then went on to say this about when you were running for president.
You said this.
On every decision I could make as governor, I came down to the side of life.
On the issue of abortion, for instance, I came down on the side of life consistently as governor in every way I knew how I could do that.
So this is what you're saying now when you're running for president.
But when you actually were governor, this is what you said, right?
You said this.
I am absolutely committed to my promise to maintain the status quo with regards to laws relating to abortion and choice.
And so far I've been able to successfully do that.
So when you were governor, you were saying that you were able to not the choice for a woman, but now you on every decision I could make as governor.
I came down to the side of life.
See, but then you said that.
So you see how people don't know exactly what you mean.
Well, I'm confused myself.
I really blame them.
My position is that it's pretty clear, in all honesty.
I support a woman's right to choose, but I support life as well.
Yeah.
That doesn't make any sense.
Mitt, that seems some people would say that's a contradictory position.
It makes plenty of sense.
How does it make sense?
Just that because you said so?
Well, let me ask you, let me, okay, let me ask first.
The people I'm talking to right now, where do you stand on abortion?
Well, I'll tell you how I stand.
I believe in it's a decision to be made between a woman and her doctor.
Yes, so I support a woman's right to choose.
That's what I say to you now.
I don't understand how this works.
Why is everyone baffled by this?
See, the problem is because, you know, you're supposed to be...
This is what you said in 2011 on Fox News.
You said this.
I see if you know what I'm talking about.
There's kind of a little Freudian slip here.
I'm pro-life and would prefer to have the courts decide that individuals rather than states have the ability to make their own decisions with regards to Republican conservative is for individuals making their own right.
But here you are arguing that the government, right?
Did you see the slip you did?
Decide.
Well, it was just a slip of the tongue, Jimmy.
I mean, you're reading too much into a slip of the tongue.
I just want to play it again right with your face.
prefer to have the courts decide that individuals, rather that states, have the ability to make their own decisions with regards to abortion.
I just wanted to play that again for you, because I think that's...
It's when you say something that you don't mean at all.
Okay.
And well, okay, maybe that wasn't a Freudian slip.
Well, but sounded like one, though.
So you're saying that it's up to...
Okay, Governor.
I appreciate it.
And so where do you stand?
So now, let me just, I just don't know where you stand because so are you for that?
You were for defending a woman's choice, but you're not anymore.
Oh, no, I've always strongly supported a woman's choice.
But on the other hand, I support human life.
Both are vague concepts, yes, and apply clearly.
But I prefer to navigate in the areas where they don't collide.
Like a woman's right to choose to eat a Chick-fil-A if she wants to.
Okay, I got more than just normal people walking around.
They should be able to live.
I'm wondering, because I've heard you've shown some flexibility.
I understand that you were about to come out in favor of people putting their money in the Cayman Islands only in cases of rape and insects.
Very nice.
Very nice.
Okay, now, Governor, if we can, so you can't say unequivocally how you feel about abortion?
Oh, I think it's a nasty bit of business, to be sure.
Okay.
But it is the law of the land as it stands now.
And as commander-in-chief, I will recognize that.
Okay.
So you won't try to overturn Roe v.
Wade?
Well, as president, I can't overturn the purview of the office of President.
Okay, so that's a yes, no?
Oh, I aced that one bit.
Okay, let's move on.
Subjects.
Come at me with softballs.
Don't even try it.
Okay.
Okay, well, let's move on to something more recent.
Now, you've been slamming the president because he said he said this.
Somebody invested in roads and bridges.
If you've got a business, you didn't build that.
Somebody else made that happen.
Wow.
So now you've been- You just found that on the internet.
So now you've been running around.
There's always time for fun, I say.
Well, you do have a reputation as a big kidder.
Now, Mitt, tell me what, what do you have a problem?
Do you have a problem with that, with the governor's, I mean, that President Obama said that?
Well, it's all part of the president's obvious disrespect for entrepreneurs and small business owners that he doesn't care about them.
He doesn't respect what they've done.
thinks that government is responsible for all good things about the United States.
You don't think that he recognizes...
It's private enterprise that built this country.
But you don't think that he recognizes.
You don't think that I've heard that you're even against building a city on rock and roll.
Well, if it's that city, I certainly do.
So you're saying that you don't think that President Obama respects So, Mitt, you're saying you don't think President Obama respects the individual achievement or the achievements of the individual, and he's more of a collectivist.
He doesn't respect that.
He's a European-style socialist, and that sort of those sorts of people don't respect the American way.
Quite frankly, they don't understand it.
Okay, but so a lot of people would say that you actually said the same thing when you gave a speech about the Olympics to the Olympians.
Remember?
Here we go.
Remember, you said this?
You Olympians, however, know that you didn't get here solely on your own power.
For most of you, loving parents, sisters, or brothers encouraged your hopes.
Coaches guided communities built venues and organized competitions.
All Olympians stand on the shoulders of those who lifted them.
Okay.
Oh, wow, huh?
You're listening to it out of context.
It's very clear if you listen to the entire time.
I'm talking about the ski lift that actually brought them up as a problem.
In all fairness, those Olympians didn't build that ski lift.
What I want to know, Governor.
I know a thing or two about ski lists.
Okay.
I want to know if there's anything that you say now that you didn't say the exact opposite of at another point in your life.
Because it seems like everything you ever say, there's a clip of you saying the exact opposite.
Well, Frank, I mean, listen, I have a nervous personality.
I'm constantly talking.
Not really flatter as much as I do.
They're certainly hunting.
It's like that Bible code.
Sure, you're going to find patterns and whatever you want to find in there.
But, you know, if you go and if you just talk nervously and constantly like I do, you're always going to find some sort of thing that seems to contradict the other one.
That's just part of a person who talks a lot.
Okay, well, Governor, are you familiar?
Okay, well, I will appreciate you spending time with us, Governor.
Do you have anything you'd like to say today?
What's on the agenda?
Today, in fact, I'm sorry, today you were seen, as of today, you were seen criticizing the president for the leaks over the Osama bin Laden raid and national security leaks, and you want an investigation over it.
And also, one of your spokesmen on this was a former Bush administration guy who was heavily involved with the Scooter Libby scandal.
Is that true?
That's absolute true.
Oh, my God.
So go ahead, Governor.
You have anything to say to that?
Well, first of all, I'd like to say how much of a joy it is to get my news over the phone.
Very convenient.
And do you have anything executive all to?
Scooter Libby.
You're just digging up old names.
You're just trying to deflect from the issues.
Scooter Libby, who cares about Scooter Libby?
I mean, you're going back in time.
And Blair, the previous administration.
That's what this president consistently has done that.
You're going back in time in the sense that all of your...
No, you are.
No, you are.
Oh, you.
I'll win this.
No, my point is that.
It's a pretty little fight.
I'm going to win this.
All of your foreign policy advisors are the people who got us into the Iraq war.
And you're saying we should go back to that kind of thinking?
Well, what else are they going to do?
I mean, these people need jobs.
Mitt, can I ask you about the Colorado shooting?
Yeah.
Now, how did that?
I didn't say anything.
I don't remember my quotes about that from 10 years ago.
He's safe on this one.
I will be going into this one block.
Well, you did at one time sign an assault weapons ban into law when you were governor of Massachusetts.
So do you think that we should have any more of that?
No, see, this is a time for reflection.
We shouldn't be talking about these sorts of things now.
This is too soon after the tragedy.
It's not a time to be talking politics or trying to figure out ways to prevent this in the future.
Okay, well, isn't that why we should be talking about it?
We do have tough gun laws in Massachusetts.
I support them.
I won't chip away at them.
I believe they help protect us and provide for our safety.
So that's what you said back then.
Okay.
I really need to get going, I'm afraid.
Unfortunately, I have to let you go.
Okay.
All right, Mitt Romney.
It's always a pleasure.
Well, Governor, we appreciate you taking time.
I really do.
Oh, yeah, no problem.
I'm going to go fix myself a glass of milk and search Google for the Minka Kelly sex tape.
And I'm not kidding.
I'll see you guys later.
Okay, thanks, Governor.
All right, Mike, I appreciate it.
You got to go?
You got to go?
Yeah, he's gone.
Okay, we lost Mike.
Okay, good.
Oh, that was great.
All right, so that was fun.
So, wasn't that Romney?
Nice clip at the same time.
At one point, when I was kind of arguing, I kind of like was, he was so Romney-like I was kind of arguing with him as if he was Romney.
I'm going to give you some facts right now.
I need to defend it.
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You know what?
Let's go ahead and just do a little bit about that because, you know, they've been taking over.
So this is, here's the full quote.
Here's how Barack Obama anti-what they've been saying is his anti-business quote.
Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we had that allowed you to thrive.
Somebody invested in roads and bridges.
If you've got a business, you didn't build that.
Somebody else made that happen.
Wow.
So they were only playing the last part of that.
He's completely distorted it as he's done with other Obama, like when Obama was quoting John McCain.
Yes.
And Romney presented it in an ad as if it was something that Obama said.
Yes.
So this is a complete distortion.
But it's not just Romney that's distorting it.
And the press won't call him on it.
You know what I mean?
Like, this isn't going to hurt him.
This isn't going to stick to him.
There's nobody in the press who's going to say to Mitt Romney, hey, look at this, this, this, this, and this distortion.
Right.
Well, for one thing, Mitt Romney, most of the time, doesn't talk to anyone except Fox.
Right.
How long is that going to be able to last?
It'll last all the way to the...
And, you know, she talked to Charlie Gibson and Katie Kirk, who are not hard-hitting interviewers and completely made a fool of herself.
Romney, if he gets in front of any kind of interviewer that's any good, he's going to have a really hard time.
Jay Leno took him apart.
Yeah, yeah.
Jay Leno took him apart.
But the press is not going to, they're not going to come out and say that Romney is lying about all these things, which he is, because they want to keep the narrative of the election going.
They want it to be close.
Maybe they'll send Ann Romney out more often.
So she can get the message out that we've already given all you people need to know.
Yeah, and you know, the thing about that, when Ann Romney said that, too, is.
She was serious.
She was serious.
And also, the idea that we've given you all the information you don't need to see anymore.
But you know what?
We're the ones who are interviewing him for a job.
We want him to come work for us.
And we want to see his resume and his tax records.
We want to see all the paperwork he has.
But they have this imperial idea that we won't give it to you people, which is what she says.
Yes, because she doesn't want to give anybody more fodder for them to be able to, you know, examine their lives more.
Also, you know, the media doesn't talk about that Romney's not talking to them.
Right.
They never talk about him not talking, and they only talk about the tax returns and Bain in terms of this is a good strategy for Obama.
Exactly.
Will it backfire?
Is it a good, like everything's in terms of strategy, but just the flat-out fact that he's not talking to the press?
Yeah, I feel like the press is moved on from the tax return thing.
It's not going to be a big issue.
I mean, if Michelle Obama came out and ever said, we've given you people all you need to know, I don't think that would ever go away.
It certainly would make the New Yorker cover.
You know what?
I just noticed that they really kind of have moved on from the tax thing.
Yeah.
Isn't that weird?
Well, I think the, you know, the Colorado shooting did some Colorado shooting.
But that's kind of going to kind of give them the space because I think they probably want to move on from that agenda.
Did it come out today that he earned something like $25 million on overseas accounts since 2005?
Did that come out today?
I thought I was reading something.
Well, I didn't see that, but I believe you, though.
I'm going to give up some other facts.
I do think stories will keep coming out about his earnings and about his tax situation or, you know, speculation about what he might be hiding.
So the story will probably stay alive that way.
Well, they were also talking about how when he was on the campaign trail last year, that he was telling some woman, you know, since 2011, I've been unemployed just like yourself.
Oh, yeah, I remember that.
Yeah.
We're a lot more alive except for the 200 million.
So here is Brian Kilmead.
He is going to go ahead and distort what we were just talking about, the President Obama saying that if you didn't start your own business.
Because if you've got a business, you didn't build that.
Somebody else made that happen.
Okay, so that's the distorted quote without the front part.
And then so Brian Kilmead brings on these two little girls, one, seven, one, four, this morning to try and get to use them in a political distortion.
I'm not kidding.
I heard of it.
I didn't watch the clip yet, but I heard of it.
There's a lemonade system.
So here it goes.
Wow.
Well, these two girls baked a different.
They built their lemonade business, not only without government help, but without any help.
Meet the founders of Cool Blast Lemonade, sisters, seven-year-old Clara and four-year-old Eliza Sutton.
Welcome to both of you.
Thanks for waking up this morning for us.
Okay, huh?
Nice.
He's being nice, setting them up, using it.
Hey, they built their own thing.
I'm going to use you in a political distortion.
Clara, how do you feel about the president saying that you needed help to start this business?
I would say that's rude because we worked very hard to build this business, but we did have help.
And your help came from?
Our help came from our investors, our dad and stepmom, along with other friends and family.
Right.
Right, okay, right.
So everything I just said, everything I just said, this whole bullshit lie that I tried to bring you in on, a seven-year-old and a four-year-old kid, you just kind of, even you debunked me.
Even for screwing it up, kids.
A seven-year-old kid just debunked me.
That's how bad it is on Fox and Fred.
They just had a seven-year-old kid, like, all they had to do was speak from in what was.
And you know what?
The guy from the Romney ad who started his own business and they used him as they interviewed him on a show and he even said, yeah, I got help from the government.
Romney said, well, what happened was the Romney campaign puts out this commercial.
President Obama says, if you started a small business, you didn't do it on your own.
And then they showed this guy, and this guy says, I worked 12-hour days.
My dad built his business.
I built this business.
We worked hard.
We built our business.
You know, that kind of a thing.
So that's like, so it's again a distortion.
And then they interview that guy who's in the commercial.
And he goes, no, I guess I have to agree with his sentiment, though, that, yeah, there's a lot of teachers who helped me that I really look at and that really helped me.
And he said, yeah, making Obama's point.
Making Obama's point.
And here comes this girl.
They built this not only without government help, but without any help.
How do you feel about the president saying that you needed help to start this business?
I would say that's rude because we worked very hard to build this business, but we did have help.
And I'm going to vote for Obama.
I feel like Brian Kilmead is going to go, I'm going to give you a timeout right now, young lady.
How do you go from saying, not only did I have government help, they didn't have any help to go and who helped you?
Came from?
Our help came from our investors, our dad and stepmom, along with other friends of the family.
And the government.
And we got a tarp loan.
Too small to fail, is what that's called.
You know, and then the lemon, by the way, that is grown by all.
Does they have a lemonade stand or is it a business?
Because then if there's, they're by, if most lemonade is by kids is sold by a road, which was built by the government, which is Obama's street.
The corner has to be built by the city.
Yes.
Where did they put their lemonade stand?
They put it in the middle of the park.
That's also built by they put it in their backyard.
How do people exactly the whole point?
I'll tell you who's really mad.
It's her mother.
Because the little girl doesn't even mention her mother.
Yeah.
Because my stepmom and her mom.
My stepmom.
Why didn't your mother help?
Well, daddy says that real mom is a whore.
So she couldn't be.
Daddy says.
All right.
So he was kind of, he had a gotcha moment with that little seven-year-old.
Yeah.
Yeah.
She got him, though.
Yeah.
She got him.
Wait, that producer is really going to hear it.
Didn't you set her up?
Didn't you tell her not to say but?
Well, also the parents are to blame for they shouldn't let those kids go on TV like that.
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Okay, let's get back to the second half of the Jimmy Dore Show.
Hey, welcome back to the Jimmy Door Show.
I am joined in studio by the former writer for the Daily Show and hilarious comedian Steve Rosenfield from Mystery Science Theater 3000.
It's TV's Frank Frank Connop is here, along with the host of Comedy and Everything Else, the popular podcast.
It's our resident Latina, Steph Zamorano.
Coming up on the second half of the show, we're going to hear from Bill O'Reilly, a classic Bill O'Reilly talks about the factual errors in his historical book about Abraham Lincoln.
Plus, we discussed the Aurora, Colorado shootings.
But right now, we said goodbye to a TV icon this week.
All right.
All right.
I still don't know who died.
Sherman Hemsley.
Oh, George Jefferson.
How old is he?
74.
That's not that old.
We thought he was old in the 70s.
Yeah.
Wait a minute.
I feel like he was 74.
I thought he was 50 in the 70s.
You know, somebody did a remake of that song.
We're moving on up to the east side.
Yeah, some white guys decided to take all the soul out of it.
Like they always do.
That's unbelievable how bad that was.
Those Norman Lear shows had good theme songs.
That was back when they had the theme song Explain the Concept Every Week.
Yeah.
Trapped on an Island.
Where monsters now they don't even have credit sequences now.
They don't want to waste any time.
They get right into it.
They just show you the title, Whitney, and then they start.
It's true.
So now the Colorado shooting has renewed nobody calling for gun control.
Actually, Mayor Bloomberg has called for it.
He's a mayor.
Mayors seem to like gun control.
Mayors, people, governors who actually seem to have to people who have to govern over cities of people like gun control.
Yes.
Yeah.
It's the people who live nowhere in the middle of nowhere.
Or senators who don't care.
Yeah.
Did you know, first of all, did you know that Wyoming, there are more people who live in the District of Columbia that live in Wyoming?
And the people in District of Columbia don't get representation, but Wyoming gets two senators.
Right, right.
Yeah, that's the way our system works.
They don't even deserve one.
South Dakota.
South Dakota and one other state or one or two other states.
South Dakota has two senators and one congressman.
So in other words, the whole state is only big enough for one House district.
Yes, but they have two senators.
Yes.
That should be, that's a big part of what's wrong with, I think, America.
Yeah.
That it's not one man, one vote.
Do you know what I mean?
When you get two senators, you're getting more for your vote in Wyoming than much more.
Yes.
Somebody in California gets.
Yes, much more.
Did you know that North Carolina has more people in it than New Jersey?
That I did not know.
I did not know because Andy Griffith.
Well, it seems like there's more people in New Jersey because of Chris Christie.
It's crowded because he's lost.
He's like 100 people.
That's what it is.
That's what it is.
But, you know, because Andy Griffith died and everybody was making a big deal out of, you know, how he's from, it was set in North Carolina, Mayberry, and how it was a simpler time, you know, when you didn't have to deal with the blacks moving into your neighborhood.
You know, I would love to have seen how he took care of that.
That would have been nice.
There wasn't a black guy on that whole show, was there?
No, never.
And then there was Drew Friedman, the cartoonist, and his brother, Josh, did a great cartoon years ago about a black guy coming through, driving through Mayberry, and they lynch him.
Andy Griffith.
Andy Taylor lynches him.
It's really hilarious.
And I love Andy Griffin.
I love the Andy Griffith show, but it's really hilarious.
But he must have done it in a really reasonable way.
Andy Griffith.
No, no, he's like without a gun.
He's like a typical redneck sheriff.
He goes, what you doing in here?
I'm just driving through town.
That's a piss-poor answer, ball.
I remember that.
Okay.
So let's not forget that the shooter, James Holmes, in Colorado, was able to legally amass an arsenal that included, are you ready for this?
A gas-powered assault rifle with a hundred-round clip.
Haven't they got electric yet?
That's unbelievable.
Yeah, I mean, who?
I mean, if someone is ordering all this ammunition and all this weaponry and they're not in the military and they're not part of a law enforcement thing and they're even if they were a hunter, you would have to be suspicious of, you know, they would be absolutely some kind of some kind of vetting process where you say, you know what?
What are you going to do with all this?
You can't have, you know, you have to give us a reason of why you need all this ammunition and all that stuff.
Why don't you finish the PhD, sir?
You have to take a written test to drive a car.
And the guy sending it his email is, you know, a lonely, quiet guy who mainly keeps to himself.com.
You know, they should know not to send it to him.
And so here's the governor of Colorado.
He was on with George Snuffalopagus on Sunday.
And here's what he had to say about it.
Bloomberg of New York, who made headlines on Fridays with his calls for tougher gun laws.
Other people met several in your state saying that, you know, perhaps if someone else in that theater had a gun, the killer could have been stopped.
Okay, first of all, can I just address that?
People are saying that, you know what, if more people had, this guy not only had high-powered weapons, he was body armor.
He also had body armor.
And there were military people in that he killed.
Yeah, he killed military people.
He killed military people.
Yes, there were people there.
So they just want everybody always walking around armed.
Right.
The military people who've served our country, they can't just go out and relax and go see a movie.
Right.
They're supposed to be armed and on alert for other citizens.
When they come home, they have to arm themselves against their own citizens.
And I can't, you know, they go, well, if everybody, literally, I saw people say this on TV.
If everybody In that theater had a gun.
First of all, that guy, no, he had Kevlar, just like those guys who knocked off the North Hollywood bank.
The cops' bullets didn't do anything to him.
So he had that on.
Second of all, I bet if, yeah, so there was a couple of hundred people who always have guns at every movie theater.
I can't see anything bad ever happened.
No, and of course, with him throwing the tear gas and all the chaos that ensued, I mean, it would be impossible that one of the persons with a gun would have shot the wrong person.
How could that possibly have happened?
How could that possibly?
Yeah, exactly.
That wouldn't have, there wouldn't be any kind of, and then you don't know who's with who.
Does he have another?
I thought he was with that guy shooting, so I shot him.
It just seems so reasonable.
More guns.
Yes.
It just seems like the solution.
So here's, so here's their solution.
So here's the governor of, so he asked that question.
Here's the question he poses to the governor of Colorado.
Does it make by the way?
This guy's a Democrat.
Do you think at this point that you need to take another look at Colorado's gun laws?
You know, I'm sure that's going to happen.
But I look at this, but this wasn't a Colorado problem.
This is a human problem, right?
And how we can have such a warped individual and no one around them be aware.
You know, I you know, not the question of how there could be such a warped individual who has access to such high-profile.
But people, yeah, but people around him, maybe some people could have been aware if there was some system where there's an alert where some guy who lives in an apartment in Colorado orders all this ammunition and all this weaponry, then maybe that could be set someone off.
I think it is a Colorado problem.
It happened in Colorado.
Yes.
I worry that if we got rid of all the guns, and certainly we have so many guns in this country, we do have a lot more gun violence in many other countries.
See, that's how he sounds reasonable.
Yeah, we certainly do have a lot more violence.
So sure.
Sure.
Like that's okay.
Instead of going, and that's unacceptable.
Instead of saying, sure, we have a lot more gun violence in other countries.
And that's unacceptable.
He just goes, sure, okay, I'll admit it.
And I'm cool with it.
I'm not going to do anything about it.
That's really what he's saying.
Yeah, exactly.
Okay.
And did George?
I'm sorry, go ahead.
Did George Stepanopoulos ask a follow-up question that might hold the guy accountable in any way?
Okay, well, let's keep playing.
We'll see.
We'll see.
This guy was diabolical, right?
He would have found explosives.
He would have found something else, some sort of poisonous gas.
No way to stop him to create this horror.
No way to stop him.
Yeah, he would.
You can never stop anybody from doing anything.
You know, guess what?
You can't just go out and make a bomb.
It's illegal to get bomb-making materials.
It's illegal to put together a bomb.
They stop terrorists.
It's illegal to get poison gas.
Just like you said, he would have done something else.
Yeah, guess what?
It's illegal to do all that other stuff.
So it's harder.
There's a higher threshold for getting it.
You can't just walk into a store and buy explosives.
You can't just walk into a store and buy poison gas.
Like you can walk into a store and buy an assault weapon with a hundred-round clip that is gas-powered.
Yes.
They stop foreign terrorists.
Why can't they stop American terrorists?
Yeah, I mean, this guy, you know, he might as well be a terrorist.
Well, it's terrorists.
He's creating a terrorist kind of crime, absolutely.
Well, yeah.
I mean, it's terrorism, essentially.
But that word never came up in the news coverage because he's not Muslim.
Right.
Right.
Well, I just, you know, still going back to the whole idea about everybody in that theater would have a gun.
Yeah.
I'd be upset.
I get upset when people are fiddling with their phone beside me in a movie theater.
Like, that's not going to accelerate.
Actually, you know, now that you mentioned that, I would maybe be in favor of you can bring in a gun, but you can't bring in a cell phone.
That I would maybe be in favor of.
A gun is less annoying.
And here's our favorite reporter, Chris Matthews, asking some horrible questions about the Aurora shooting.
He has an expert on to talk about Colorado.
And here's what he says.
Make of the picture we saw today in the courtroom of James Holm.
Did he give you any indication that he had a problem?
The orange hair, did he?
The orange-haired weirdo who shot up a bunch of people in a theater?
Did he seem a little off to you?
Police suspect foul play.
He looks like Carrot Top on a bender.
Isn't what James Holm did suggested he had a problem?
That doesn't really matter what he says.
The fact that he shot up a theater and we don't need an expert to tell us that he's I mean, I know that.
I didn't take psych.
The guy comes in wearing he's got red hair and then half the time he's bug-eyed and the other half he's fallen asleep.
Yeah, he looks like a crazy person.
Yeah, yeah, of course.
Thanks.
Did he look dangerous to you?
He looked dangerous when he was shooting those people.
He looked pretty dangerous, though.
Unbelievable.
So here he is.
Yeah, so here he is interviewing a guy who was actually in the shooting.
Did he look dangerous to you?
Did he remind you of what you saw in the theater?
Did he remind you of what you saw in the theater?
When he was covered with armor.
He totally covered.
The only thing you could see was his eyes.
was all dressed in black.
And so the guy says...
Anywhere coming.
You would not put two and two together if you saw that person and if you were there that night.
You would never know.
Okay, compare him to what you saw, the gentleman you saw, the two gentlemen, whatever you saw, compare him to what you saw in the theater the night that everything went horribly.
I don't even know what he just said.
I have no idea.
Okay, compare him to the gentleman that you saw at the same time.
Just go ahead and get him.
I would compare.
My comparison would be that they're the same person.
That's how I would compare them.
Okay, now just compare them.
He didn't kill anybody in the courtroom.
So he was better that time.
So the guy just compared them.
Okay, so here we go again.
The night in the theater, as soon as the door swung open and the person dressed all in black walked into the theater, this person had a stroll like he knew what was going on.
He knew what was supposed to happen.
He was supposed to be walking the park and that he was going to have a good time.
That's what it looked like.
Is there any way you can connect the two?
Could you identify him as that guy, the one who killed all the 12 people and injured or wounded so many others, dozens of others?
I couldn't have identified him because the person knew the gunman was dressed all in black.
These are the questions.
Could you identify him?
They caught the guy.
They got him.
They got him, Chris.
What do you think?
The one thing I observed, my little observation from seeing him in court is that the way he was, he looked like a guy who was coming down from drugs or something.
Yeah.
So my guess is that he was all drugged up on who knows what when he did it.
And then when he got arrested and put in jail, he's been coming down from it.
But it might just be just that he's crazy that he was like.
He also had access.
Let's see what else he has to say.
You cannot see anything.
The only thing that was available to see was only his eyes.
Lemiko, how did you survive, by the way?
I'm glad you did, sir.
Just meeting you now, but I'm glad anybody survived that horror scene.
The assailant was moving with an automatic weapon.
Tell me about the weaponry that you heard then.
What kind of a gun was he shooting?
But don't you know this stuff?
Yeah, we know it already.
We know what kind of guns the guy had.
He's just asking him like it's like, do you know basic math?
Can you share some of that information that we already have?
It's unbelievable.
Can you could you identify?
Go ahead.
Did any of the trailers that went on before the movie?
Did you want to see any of those movies?
How is the movie otherwise?
By the way, Mrs. Lincoln.
Was he using the projection of the movie on the screen?
In other words, the movie itself, the Batman movie itself, has his lighting as he shot, identified people and shot and killed many of them.
Who?
Who cares?
Chris.
What is he trying to figure out?
What do you know what this person is?
What's his argument he's trying to frame?
Chris Matthews fails lost.
Prove it was two different guys.
Would Christia have killed more people if Chris Nolan wasn't into such a dark noir mood in his movies?
This guy did say, though, this guy did give an interesting.
So this guy was in the second row that he's talking to.
And he said that there was a guy sitting in the front row, took a phone call, gets up, walks out, opens the back door, leaves it open a little bit, and he could see like him trying to flag someone down.
And then the guy comes in.
So that's why they're thinking it's two people who were working together.
Because he even described the one guy, I think, having a goatee or something.
Yeah, yeah.
He said the one guy who went towards the door had a goatee and opened.
So he got a phone call, goes over, opens the door, and then, because that guy, yeah, I mean, that's the first time I've ever heard that.
That's the first time I had heard something.
So that's the big news coming out of Chris Matthews' interview, except Kristen, he couldn't detect it.
He didn't like follow up on that because that's the one interesting thing.
It was, but no, he's asking, he's asking him about.
Do you want to know what he wants to know about?
He wants to know about it.
An automatic weapon.
Tell me about the weaponry that you heard that.
What kind of a gun was he shooting?
Loud.
A loud one.
Repeated or shot a lot of bullets.
Was he using the projection of the movie on the screen?
In other words, the movie itself, the Batman movie itself, has his lighting because he shot, identified people and shot and killed many of them.
I'm sorry.
I can understand that question.
Yeah, he waited for the bat signal to come in the movie, and that's when he started shooting.
Chris Hardball.
Wow.
Yeah, Chris Hardball.
Unbelievable.
And he has a job, and he gets paid a lot of money.
It was the only light in ninth theater in the movie being projected on the screen.
Have you ever been to a movie, Chris?
Have you ever been in a movie theater?
Do you know how it works?
But you have to ask me about what it's like in there.
So I was reading the story about a three-year-old boy in Tacoma, Washington, who fatally shot himself with a gun he found in a car while his family stopped for gas early Wednesday in Tacoma, police said.
Oh, that's horrible.
It was the third recent shooting by a child in Washington.
It's incredible in light of the other ones.
You would think people would take more care, not less.
So that's a three-year-old who shot himself in the head with a gun.
Now, I was just thinking if everybody else in that gas station also had a gun, they could have shot that kid when they saw him and stopped him.
Could have stopped him by shooting him.
Or if the kid had had a gun in the first place, he wouldn't have gone looking for that other guy.
Yeah, he would have just already had his gun.
Or if that kid had been at the Batman movie, he might have been able to.
Okay, I was also reading.
This is from May 29th.
So this is pretty recent.
I was reading this from police are trying to find out how a four-year-old boy nearly shot himself in the face Tuesday morning.
They said he, quote-unquote, came across a.38-caliber weapon in his Ellen Wood home.
The police said the boy suffered a light gray wound to his forehead while handling the gun.
The bullet did not get below the skin far enough to touch any bone, but he was taken to the hospital by his mother as a precautionary measure anyway.
It all happened at Cedar Trace Lane near Panthersville and River Roads around 10.30 a.m.
Now, I say if everybody who lived on Cedar Trace Lane near Panthersville and River Roads had a gun, this would never have happened.
Okay, so I see your point.
Yeah, there's one more.
This is one of my with his father.
So there was with his father and a firearms instructor standing by, an eight-year-old Connecticut boy shot himself in the head with a submachine gun yesterday, killing himself in an accident.
Some say should never have happened.
Christopher Bidgets was testing a nine millimeter micro-Uzi at the Westfield Sportsman's Club in Westfield, Massachusetts, as part of the machine gun shoot and firearms expo when he shot himself Sunday.
The firearm instructor prepped the weapon for him, and once it was ready, he handed it to the child.
Christopher then pulled the trigger and the gun's recoil pulled the barrel upward, causing the round to hit him in the right side of the head.
He was pronounced dead a short time later.
Oh my God.
Massachusetts law allows for a child to fire a gun with parental consent.
So long as there is an active permit for the gun and the licensed firearm instructor is supervising, it's unclear whether the gun had a whether the gun had a permit or whether the instructor was licensed.
His father was nearby.
His father is a doctor of emergency medicine at Johnson Memorial Hospital in Stafford.
So my thing is if everybody at the machine gun shoot and firearms expo would have also had a gun, then this kid maybe wouldn't be dead.
That's what I'm saying.
They did have guns, though.
So that's if they're more, if you just have more guns.
Or how about if you take the kid to a Chuck E. Cheese and not to a gun range or whatever?
Yeah, also.
Oh, by the way, did I tell you that last Friday, I told you guys this last Friday when I was taking phone calls for ticket giveaway for Sunday show?
Somebody called in and was complaining that we were doing comedy on Friday because they had that shooting on Friday.
Oh, you didn't tell us that.
Oh, oh, yeah.
So he answers the phone.
So I answered the phone, and there's this guy, and he says, hi, is this KB?
He goes, yes, it's KV.
I can't believe you're doing a comedy program on a day like today.
It's a day of mourning.
And I was like, yeah, I know what these guys are thinking.
And he's like, this is really, I would just crass.
It's very crass of them, isn't it?
Just crass.
I don't know what you're saying.
They think that you could be laughing at a day.
And he goes, he catches himself and he goes, you know, no, I would think the word is obtuse, isn't it?
Isn't it obtuse?
And I go, well, you know, the problem is that the show was pre-recorded.
So it was recorded two days ago, and this is the time slot for the show.
And what I should have said to him was, are you going to call it tonight show and make sure they cancel their show tonight and Conan and anybody else who has a job in comedy?
Whenever there's a shooting, everybody has to shut down their job who has anything to do with comedy.
And every movie theater has to close.
Every movie theater has to close because there's comedies being played in other movies.
Did you cancel all the Seinfeld reruns this weekend?
Did you call up Warner?
Stop laughing.
Call Warner Brothers, tell him to cancel all the Seinfeld reruns.
Right.
And also.
So 12,000 people a year are killed intentionally with a firearm in the United States.
And this guy didn't want me to do comedy on Friday because 12 people got shot that particular day.
I found one statistic.
I don't know.
It's not too recent, but it's from 1997.
There were 89 firearm deaths per day or a firearm death every 16 minutes.
Wow.
Every 16 minutes.
And this guy doesn't want me to do comedy.
I can't let that go.
This guy doesn't want me to do comedy.
I know.
Because 12 people got shot in Colorado.
But since this is a public radio station, I think his point is that we should be catering to a humorless listenership, which is he, I'm sure, considers himself a part of the.
I got an Email yesterday.
I'm listening to your podcast today and just got the commentary you had in the middle about liberals having problems with comedy show being played on the day of a shooting in Colorado.
Frankly, I think these complaints come from the place of ignorance and stupidity.
On Christmas Eve, 2005, my three-year-old drowned in our bathtub at our house.
My then four-year-old was put in a foster home that night while social services began making their case to take him from my wife and I. So, needless to say, it wasn't a happy Christmas.
My wife and I spent it sitting together in stunned morning, watching nothing but Comedy Central stand-up because we were desperate for anything to lighten our mood.
Jimmy, if there is ever a chat tragedy on the morning you're going to record a show, I beg you to ignore it as best you can and continue on with your show.
It's a true service to those who are depressed, for nothing helps dispel misery better than a good laugh.
Even if it's only temporary, it's better than wallowing in uninterrupted sadness.
Amen.
Very true.
Very true.
So there you go.
And to that guy who called last week.
Suck it.
Let's go back into the archive and we'll listen to one phone call we got from Bill O'Reilly.
And then we'll outski.
Jimmy Dore.
This is Bill O'Reilly.
Hey, Jim O. I got good news and I got bad news.
The good news is I wrote a book.
How about that?
But the bad news is the liberal mainstream media, bloodthirsty baby killers that they are, have decided to attack the veracity of my tone.
You see, I chose to wrote a book about the Lincoln assassination because I felt that we only see that period of history through the eyes of historians and not through the eyes of shameless fact-denying cable T people.
Historians for too long have monopolized history, Jimmy.
The tyranny of elitism.
And I'm freeing Lincoln's story from you lefty fact-mongers.
Did you know, for example, that Abraham Lincoln, despite what many of the Democrat Party say, actually survived his assassination, attempted Forge Cedar?
Yes.
In fact, my research shows that he lived for many years after that and went on to have a successful career as the basis for Fog Hat.
The boys in the band called him Bearded Lightning.
Didn't know that.
During his face solos, he would simultaneously extol the virtues of conservative thought to the crowd, like how slaves should be returned to their masters with interest, i.e., diligent midgets.
And that God made the moon, god damn it.
However, the exhaustion brought on by Foghat Schooling touring schedule, as well as bearing the brunt of writing and arranging their albums, Rock and Roll Outlaws, Fool for the City, and Stone Blue, left Abraham Lincoln with a debilitating toy loot habit.
He was already on the verge of death when he was shot through his glasses while on a massage table in Las Vegas by one of the Corio family.
Now, these are all facts, Jimmy Dore.
You can't dispute these facts.
I researched them.
And if you and anyone in so-called academia call them into question, you are retards.
I'm tired of politically motivated smears on my important work.
Now, if you excuse me, I have to get back to work on my study of play tectonics.
It turns out that the continents move around on the backs of trillions of angry turtles who have Marshall Tucker band songs stuck in their head.
I'm on drugs.
What is Mike?
I'm not.
I won't.
I'm not.
We'll see you next time.
I told you I'd tell you about it.
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