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This past week, a scandal erupted involving 11 of President Obama's Secret Service agents in Columbia.
The agents reportedly got into a fight with bouncers at a strip club for not paying their prostitution bill.
Now that those agents have been suspended, I'm sure any other Secret Service agents who've been soliciting prostitutes have made a mental note to pay their hooker bill promptly and without an argument.
The thing I don't get is, why would Secret Service agents waste their time boasting to the prostitutes that they worked for Obama?
Those prostitutes are paid to have sex with anyone, even a cashier at Vaughn's.
In retrospect, it might have been best if they hadn't even brought it up.
I mean, that's why they're called Secret Service agents, not Blab to a Columbian hooker service agent.
And why do guys always try to get the prostitute to like them?
That's never happened once.
The bottom line is, President Obama was not in any danger while in South America because all the psychos with guns are in this country.
Most Republicans won't get too riled up about this because they still think our biggest security breach is the president's a Muslim.
I just hope there are enough reliable Secret Service agents on duty to keep an eye on Ted Nugent.
Thank you.
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I am joined in studio from CinematicTitanic.com and Mystery Science Theater 3000.
It's Frank Connoff.
Hey, Frank, how are you?
Hello there.
Frank, you got your baseball hat on, not usual.
Yeah, it's a...
It's a North Hollywood hat.
Oh, I thought you didn't like prostitutes.
It says no hope.
I thought it was like...
He likes prostitutes.
Yeah, I thought it was a secret service kind of a thing.
Next to him, former writer for the Daily Show, hilarious comedian Steve Rosenfield.
Hey, Steve.
Hey, Jimmy, how you doing?
I'm doing good.
I'm doing very good.
Good to see you.
Excuse me.
Next to him, the host of the Mental Illness Happy Hour podcast, chosen the best podcast in the world by The Onion.
It's Paul Gilmartin.
Hey, Paul.
I'm not even going to.
What?
What did I say?
Just to dignify that?
Dignify that.
Well, it started out.
I used to like that you would point out that they picked it as one of the top 10 of 2011, but now it's starting to sound almost backhanded and sarcastic.
A little bit.
It did sound a little bit.
But I didn't mean it that way.
saying that, but what he means is they didn't pick mine as the top ten.
They weren't even...
It's okay.
I know the person in charge of that award.
It doesn't matter.
Anyway, hey, did you hear about Newark, New Jersey Mayor Corey Booker?
He's being hailed as a hero after saving his neighbor from a burning building.
And not to be outdone, Chris Christie just ran into a bakery and saved a tray of cinnamon rolls.
LAUGHTER LAUGHTER He's a large man.
He's a large man.
The Secret Service in a lot of trouble.
We've heard about that, right?
And some of the stories are starting to come out about their kinky three ways.
For instance, one agent, while one agent was ejaculating, another one would dive in front of the hooker's vagina.
When one of those guys is about to come, does he say the eagle is about to land?
Yes, I think so.
Hey, what happens when you get a room full of well-armed meatheads together?
Well, Ted Nugent shows up.
If you don't know that our government is wiping its with the Constitution, you're living under a rock someplace.
That is Ted Nugent, who lives in the Michigan woods under a rock somewhere.
Okay, so we're going to play that coming up on the show.
We're also going to break down the phony outrage over the Hillary Rosen's innocuous comments about Ann Romney.
And we're going to take a hard look at the media's predictable failure in debunking it and reporting on it.
Plus, we show how Ann Romney is just another run-of-the-mill BSer, just like her husband, Mitt.
Plus, we're going to hear phone calls from Mitt Romney.
He calls in to defend himself.
Rick Perry welcomes me to the Austin.
I'm going to Austin next week.
He's sending me a good welcome.
And we're also going to hear who's the...
That's right.
Ted's going to call in to defend himself.
Plus a lot more.
That's today on the Jimmy Dore Show.
Time for another installment of Oh My God.
Okay, in the Oh My God segment, we're all fine.
Are we all familiar with Dana Lausch?
Now, Frank, who is she?
Can you explain to me?
I believe she is a conservative blogger who is also a CNN contributor.
She is now a paid contributor to CNN along.
She's made crazy statements on her blogs, and so they hired her at CNN.
Yes, yes.
And to them, that's balance.
That's balance.
Yes.
Yeah, so you have to have some regular people and some crazy crackpot right-wingers and no progressive people.
And zero progressive people.
Right.
So you'll bring on Harold Ford.
That's their progressive, the guy who's a shield for Wall Street.
So, yeah, that's really, that really is how CNN works now.
They got rid of Elliot Spitzer, or maybe he couldn't help.
But anyway, here is Dana Loesh.
She was given a speech at an Occupy Wall Street.
No, no.
She was speaking about Occupy Wall Street at some kind of a tea party rally for the tax day, right?
And I think this was in Chicago.
And so here she is.
It's not the easiest to hear, but here's what she says about what happens to women who are lefties and join Occupy Wall Street.
What have women received for supporting the left?
You've seen it here with your Occupy movement.
Bothered you, take it wait.
How are we doing?
Okay, there we go.
What do women receive for being a part of the left?
That's the question, right?
What have women received for supporting the left?
You've seen it here with your Occupy movement.
Bothered you, take it wait!
Okay, so there you go.
So Dana, I just want to say this to her.
I know she listens to the show.
Dana, I don't know if you've ever heard about the story of the boy who cried wolf or that even applies to this, but I'm pretty sure you have rabies.
That's the point.
Because you sound like a crazy person.
That's what my aunt sounded like when she had rabies 30 years ago.
She was talking about that.
Did you take my car?
Are you going to rape me?
That's what it's like.
Did your aunt really have rabies?
No, that's a joke, Paul.
It's another joke.
Do people even get rabies anymore?
Do people get rabies?
Every once in a while.
There was a kid, actually, that died of rabies like three years ago.
No kidding.
Yeah.
Okay, wow.
So that is a real thing.
Very, very rare, but yeah.
Right.
I went to the theater once and got David rabies.
I'm just laughing out of instinct now, Frank.
I don't know what you're talking about.
Can you explain that joke?
David Rabe is a playwright.
What has he written?
A few big plays.
A few big plays, which I can't.
Oh, I saw that a few big plays.
That was good.
What was the one that they made into a movie?
House of Blue Leaves.
House of Blue Leaves?
No, that was John Guerr.
Like, there's a difference.
I don't know either one of them.
Oh, he wrote Fast Time at Richmond High?
That's right.
The play.
Okay.
Here's one more.
Oh, my God.
We were talking about streamers.
Streamers.
So I'm watching Pat Robertson.
And if you're not watching him, you don't know what you're missing.
Honest to God.
Can I just guess that this is going to be something creepy and off base that he says in a kind of very, very calm, whispery voice?
It's close.
It's not creepy.
It's just out there.
So here we were, because they do news segments on his show.
I don't know if you've ever seen that.
They actually have what?
CBN News, right?
And so they did this whole news segment about how Europe is crazy because they all accept the scientific fact of global warming, right?
And they were talking about how you can't even get on the news there if you are a climate change denier.
And I'm like, you shouldn't be able to get on the news.
So go ahead.
I was watching their news segment one time and the stone tablet teleprompter broke down.
So here is so they play this whole thing about how the Europeans really embrace global warming and they're all accepting of it and how the science deniers in Europe are shunned.
And so they come back and this is what they have to say.
Europeans, they just seem to be intent on destroying themselves.
There's a fairly large faction of people here in the United States also who follow that whole creed.
Yeah, yeah, that whole creed of science, that whole creed.
Okay, so he has some, and then he says to her, he says this, you know, just keep your mind on Mars and say, how many SUVs, how many oil refineries are there in Mars?
And it's my relationship to the sun that is affecting the climate.
Oh, Mars.
And he whispered it just like you said he would.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
Keep your mind.
If there is karma, he will die shortly and come back as a polar bear.
I love that he goes, keep your mind.
You know, there's no SUVs on Mars.
There's no oil wells on Mars.
Yet they have.
It's so much fun.
I love this guy.
Thank God for Pat Robertson.
Yeah.
I mean, I agree, though, that like if on European TV, they never have people who believe that the earth is flat on ever.
Anymore.
They're very prejudiced against that.
This has been, oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
Okay, you know, it turns out that the total amount of outstanding student debt could reach a trillion dollars this year.
A trillion dollars.
You know, for that amount of money, American students could have waged a pointless 10-year war.
You know what I mean?
And, you know, something useful instead of all this egghead book learning.
You know what I'm talking about?
Fortunately, the Republican Party is on this one.
So enter chairperson of the Congressional Subcommittee on Higher Education, Representative Virginia Fox.
She chairs the subcommittee on higher education when presented with those facts about student loans and student debt.
And, well, she had this to say, problem solver that she is.
I have very little tolerance for people who tell me that they graduate with $200,000 of debt or even $80,000 of debt because there's no reason for that.
No.
Are you shitting me?
That's the chairman of the subcommittee on higher education.
Oh, my God.
I'm going to bet she has very little tolerance for anything.
I'm going to bet.
I'm going to bet the only college is too expensive.
It's that these students are too poor.
I mean, look at everything that Representative Fox has accomplished while remaining completely stupid.
I mean, the higher education is overrated.
Okay.
So is her solution that we just keep the population ignorant, so ignorant that they don't know what a trillion dollars looks like?
She goes on to say that she...
That she paid for her own education.
In her interview, Congressman Fox, she goes on to explain that she and her husband both worked their ways through college, and it took her over seven years to do so.
What she does not say is that she went to college.
She went to a state college back in the 60s in California when the tuition was zero and the rest of the country was less than $1,000.
And even then, she had to struggle to get it done.
Right.
What the chairman of the committee on education seems to not understand is that the average college tuition has increased at a rate that far outpaces inflation.
Even on a seven-year plan like she had, to pay her way through college at a reasonably good university, she would have to already have a job which requires a college degree.
Unless, of course, you sell drugs.
Do you think that's what she meant?
Do you think she means I have no compassion for people who graduate with debt because they always could have sold drugs to pay for their tuition and living expenses?
If that's what she means, well, she's a terrible lawmaker, but suddenly she seems a little cooler.
And also what she doesn't say is that the school that she graduated from was the Tiggerts Driving School.
With honors.
I love that she has no compassion for students graduating with debt.
I hear you.
You know, because those students with their loans that they spend on college tuition and books, when they could have been spending it on jacuzzis in their dorm rooms and weekend trips to Bermuda.
You know what I mean?
And also, what about all those deadbeat soldiers who fought to preserve freedom and then sponged off us on the GI Bill?
I have no sympathy for them.
No sympathy for them.
You know, I can understand her dilemma.
You let a kid go to college and then they're going to be too smart to vote for you is what's going to happen.
Right.
Paul, how do you feel about this lady?
Well, you know, to be fair, I do know a little bit about her story, and she did have a tough time way back when she went to college.
All the other kids' parents gave them horses.
She didn't have one.
Here's Mitt Romney going after the education vote.
Here's what he's his plan for kids swimming in college debt is a little, his plan is even a little bit better than Virginia Fox's, ready?
I know that it would be popular for me to stand up and say, I'm going to give you government money to make sure to pay for your college, but I'm not going to promise that.
What I'm going to tell you is shop around, get a good price.
Yeah, that's what he's going to tell you.
Shop around and get a good deal.
Just do what he did.
You can get into a really good college with a Ralph's Club card.
Just do what he did.
You have your dad be president of a huge card company and then shop around for colleges while working hard every day cashing in stock that your father bought for you.
You know, hey, it's in America, you just don't put your hand out and get money, right?
We have to inherit it.
Am I correct?
That's only fair.
You are.
The last time I was at Costco, I could not find the aisle the colleges were in there.
I love, too, in that clip how Mitt Romney tries to make himself out as, look, I could say the popular Thing.
I could be a human being.
I could be a popular.
You know, as if every speech he's ever made hasn't been to, you know, parse whatever.
Well, as if he's the only time he, you know, I'll.
I have too much integrity to tell you.
I could be the fountain of compassion you know me to be, but this one's about money.
Yeah, I mean, I could pander to you, but I don't, I have a strict rule.
I don't pander if it could help someone, especially education.
That's Governor Romney shrewdly nailing down the high school dropout vote.
Zeroing in on it.
And he's not, you know, Frank, you bring up a good point.
You know, Romney's not going to say the popular thing because if Romney's anything, he's unpopular.
He's unpopular.
That's right.
And Republicans are passionate about eliminating the debt, unless it belongs to an actual person.
And they're a little bit, they're a little slow on the pickup on that one.
You know, you get the feeling that Romney, like if he saved a baby that was stuck in a well, he could still manage to fuck up the speech afterwards.
Hey, listen, I get that education is a complex national issue.
And honestly, I have no idea what the solution might be, but I'm pretty sure.
Shop around, get a good price.
That is not.
That is not the answer.
Shop around, get a good price.
No, I don't see how.
Harvard is now a Groupon deal.
That's like good advice if you're shopping for a washer and dryer.
You know, a bachelor's degree nowadays can easily cost around the six figures.
And it's worth less than it's ever been before, too, a college degree.
So now you've got more people trying to get a competitive edge in the marketplace by getting graduate degrees, which costed ungodly amounts of money.
There's no way this can keep going on without there being dire consequences for the whole country, both in terms of domestic economy and America's ability to compete with other economies.
So, Mitt, when you say shop around, get a good price.
I think every person in this country with a student loan should get a turn shitting in your mouth.
I get so many emails from college graduates who are severely depressed because they are in deep debt and they can't find jobs that are even remotely close to what they're qualified to do now.
And they're having to worry about even getting fired from their job if they're severely overqualified to be working at.
You know, they say that they say that college graduates, their unemployment rate is at 4%.
And I'm like, yeah, but they don't say what kind of jobs those guys are taking.
Right.
Yeah.
You know, college, yeah, people will hire a college graduate under his, what he should be getting.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, I'll hire a college graduate to sell burgers before I hire a high school grant.
You know what I mean?
And they're having trouble even nibbling away at the student loan because they're having to take two jobs just to pay their rent and cover their bills.
And they can't even afford the health insurance to pay for the mental problems that they're going through because of this.
Oh, boy.
So what do you think?
What is the reason why college tuitions have skyrocketed so far ahead of inflation?
But this week I hear Princeton is having a sale on tuition.
Sure, they can get in a shop around, get in on that.
An early bird kind of.
Sure, sure.
You got to shop around.
I mean, is it because some people say because the government got involved and started giving away Pell Grants, and that's when colleges jacked up their, because they knew that the government would give students money, so they jacked up the that's that's what the right wing says.
I say it's because somehow Wall Street got involved with giving out student loans.
And so they just they encouraged the, I don't know, I really don't know what it is, but I know Wall Street certainly screwed something up.
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Now, Mitt Romney has a bad habit of projection.
Whatever his negative traits is, he seems to be able to project them on whoever his opponent is.
And do you remember a couple weeks ago when President Barack Obama was speaking with the Russian diplomat and he thought his microphone was off, but it was open.
And he said, you know, after the election, I'll have more flexibility to negotiate.
And I think every politician understands that, right?
Well, Mitt Romney, he jumped on it, right?
He gave him a, well, what is this?
How can Romney not be offended?
It's insinuating that there's no way Romney is going to beat him.
Right.
So that happened, right?
So Barack Obama has the open mic problem.
And then Mitt Romney.
I've had many open mic problems myself.
We all have.
I'm just not thinking about the right thing.
And then Mitt Romney, about a week and a half after that, just this last weekend, was giving a speech in a room in Palm Beach.
And he didn't know, but he could be heard because he was in a tent in a backyard.
And there was a reporter on the other side of that tent with a microphone open.
And so he didn't know he could be heard.
So he thought he was speaking.
And this is the stuff he said, as read by Ed Schultz.
I'm going to take a lot of departments in Washington and agencies and combine them.
Some eliminate, but I'm probably not going to lay out just exactly which ones are going to go.
See, he's talking about what he's going to do after he gets elected, but he's talking about it in hushed tones because he doesn't want to tell people what departments of the government he's going to re like this department he's going to get rid of.
Things like housing and urban development, which my dad was head of, that might not be around later, but I'm not going to actually go through these one by one.
Okay, so there you go.
So he wants to get rid of HUD, even though he's trying.
Mitt is trying to reassure the American public with vagueness.
Yes.
But then, so what's weird is that he got caught making the same gaff the president did, you know, telling that I'm going to do things different after the and then he said this.
We'll give him the truth and make sure that he understands that he can't just blow things by people.
And he does that.
It's a strange thing.
The truth came out the other day as he spoke with President Medvedev of Russia.
He said, you know, wait till after the election.
I can be more flexible then.
He's clearly trying to hide from us what he intends to do.
You don't say that to the head of Russia without making it very clear to anyone listening that you have plans after your reelection that are different than those that you're willing to tell the American people.
So he's going to hide.
And it's my job to seek and our job to seek.
It's going to be a hide and seek campaign.
And we're going to find out what he's going to do.
He literally makes my skin crawl.
It's creepy that he doesn't.
Come on, that hide-in-seek thing was pretty brilliant.
I mean, isn't that, we're going to get in the second half of the show.
We're going to get into the phony outrage over the Hillary Rosen comments and how badly the press.
But you know what?
What he's saying about Obama is not going to tell you what he's going to do in the second term is they're basing a lot of their whole strategy on that because, for instance, he talks a lot about Obama Wants to destroy the NRA, even though Obama's policies have been as pro-NRA as he's done nothing to stop to promote gun control in his administration.
Absolutely nothing, but their whole thing is, hey, wait until the second term.
He's doing everything that a conservative would do now.
But when that second term, that's when his secret plan, and this is something they're seriously putting forward.
Even though, you know, that's a good point.
But you know what, Frank?
The righties are saying he's going to be much more liberal in his second term, and the liberals are crossing their fingers that he's going to be much more liberal in his second term because he's been a conservative.
Right, but it's like, how can you criticize someone who hasn't done the things you're saying and saying they're secretly he's not hurting the NRA as a way to cover up the fact that he's going to hurt it, you know?
Well, it's, and well, and even then, in context of this segment, is that Mitt Romney was caught doing the exact same thing.
Right.
And then he comes out and gets all indignant about it.
Robotically dignitative.
That's my favorite type of indignant.
You know, the thing about if you study the presidents with two terms, at least it's going back as far as Reagan, their second terms, actually, they actually went the other way.
So they were so like, if you go Ronald Reagan, he was more conservative in his first term, more liberal in his second term.
Same thing with Bill Clinton.
He was more liberal in his first term, more conservative in his second term.
In his first term, he tried to get rid of the, he tried to repeal gays in the military.
He tried to pass universal health insurance.
And in the second part, he repealed Glast Eagle, Telecommunications Act.
He did all this right-wing stuff, right?
Same thing with George Bush.
George Bush was much more conservative in the first term.
And then in his second term, he couldn't.
He couldn't get Social Security privatized.
He couldn't.
He tried to be conservative in the second term.
Right, but he doesn't have the strength of your party behind you anymore because they see you as a lame duck president in your second year of your second term.
So that's what happened.
So it's interesting to see.
I think people are like, well, how will it be different?
How will he be different?
And I think Barack Obama will be at least four years older than he was the first time.
And like, I think he's going to be different because he surrounded himself with all those Wall Street insiders and sucked up to Wall Street just so he could do a total juke move in his second, just totally trying to freak everybody out.
Well, it's part of, they all say, you know, he has this radical.
They say this, seriously, Obama has a radical agenda.
He's a radical single thing has he done that is radical for pro-liberal.
Be black.
That's it.
That's where his radicalness comes from, is just the fact that he's black.
A guy that gets ignores habeas corpus as a constitutional professor.
It's shocking.
Shocking.
You know, Mitt Romney actually called in.
So, yeah, I asked him a couple of these questions because this is bothering me.
I'm sure it's bothering you.
I'm interested to hear what he has.
Hey, I was talking with presidential hopeful Mitt Romney.
Hi, Mitt.
How are you, buddy?
Hi, Jimmy.
I'm doing well.
How are you doing?
Fantastic.
What's on your mind, buddy?
Well, I got to be honest with you, Jimmy.
This Obama fella is really frosting my ass.
How so, Mitt?
Well, he just thinks he can just blow things by, people.
You know, that's actually a criticism of you.
You know, he just says anything.
He thinks he can say one thing to one group of people and then say another thing to another group of people.
And it's just fine.
Well, you know what?
It's not.
Mitt, you know that people think you have that problem.
Does he not think people will notice?
Just the arrogance.
Mitt, this is really weird.
Oh, so you've heard him.
Yes.
Strange thing.
No, no, Mitt.
What I'm saying is that you're being weird.
I'm going to give him the truth.
Did you hear him when he was talking to the Russian diplomat?
And he thought his microphone was turned off.
Yeah, like what happened to you in Palm Beach the other night, right?
He said, wait till after the election.
I can be more flexible then.
You mean how you did in Palm Beach the other night?
He's clearly trying to hide from us what he intends to do.
Yeah, yeah, Mitt.
You mean like what you did in Palm Beach with the closing of the government.
You don't say that to the president of Russia without making it very clear to anyone listening that you have plans after the election that are different than you are willing to tell the American people.
You mean like what you did in Palm Beach?
Yes, like what I did in Palm Beach.
There are some things you only talk about in quiet rooms, Jimmy.
Oh, so you understand you have to play your cards close to your vest sometimes when running for office.
Oh, oh, oh, definitely.
That's called politics, Jimmy.
That's just how the game is played.
So you're not outraged at I mean, why would I?
Mitt, you are totally outraged at Obama for saying one thing and then saying another.
Oh, yeah, no, I am totally outraged at the president and his duplicitous ways.
Mitt, you just said the opposite.
And I'm tired of his weird religion, too.
Okay, Mitt.
Good to talk to you.
He's cruel to doggies.
I don't care for that.
Mitt, I'm going to have to let you go now.
He's a creepy Mormon who straps himself to the top of his car and zooms down the road.
Okay, bye, Mitt.
Bye, Mitt.
Take care, Jimmy.
Have a great summer.
Okay, that was Mitt Rodney doing a little bit of what they call in psychology, I think, projection.
You know, Mitt seems like a much nicer guy when he talks to you.
He's never more likable than when he's talking to you.
He's trying to get me to like him.
Yeah.
He really is.
He seems down-earthed.
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Hi, welcome back to the Jimmy Door Show.
I'm joining studio from Mystery Science Theater 3000 and cinematictitanic.com.
It's Frank Conniff next to him, former writer for The Daily Show and hilarious comedian Steve Rosenfield.
And next to him, my good buddy and host of the Mental Illness Happy Hour podcast.
It's Paul Gilmartin.
What we're going to talk about on the second half of today's show, we're going to break down the media's coverage of the phony outrage over Ann Romney and Hillary Rosen's comment about Ann Romney not working a day in her life outside of her home.
And we're going to look at it through how ABC covered it, Jake Tapper and a couple of other people.
Plus, for sure, we have going to have a little acting exercise with Lawrence O'Donnell later on in the show, which I think you're going to really see the growth in his acting.
You're going to understand what happens.
Plus, Ted Nugent had something to say.
We're going to play those clips.
And actually, Ted's going to call in along with Rick Perry is going to call in.
That's coming up on the second half of today's show.
But right now, let's go ahead and play the clip.
You know what happened with Hillary Rosen, right?
She said this.
What you have is Mitt Romney running around the country saying, well, you know, my wife tells me that what women really care about are economic issues.
And when I listen to my wife, that's what I'm hearing.
Guess what?
His wife has actually never worked a day in her life.
She's never really dealt with the kinds of economic issues that a majority of the women in this country are facing.
Okay, so now, first of all, everyone gets that Hillary Rosen was actually correct in what she was saying.
If you listen to the whole quote.
The very next thing she says after that is, you know, is about she doesn't understand the economic struggle.
That Ann Romney doesn't understand the economic struggle.
She says that immediately after that.
So you know that the context of what she's saying is that she hasn't worked in terms of going out and having to make a living.
Right.
But then they only play that one.
That one selected quote from.
It was a bad choice of words to say she's never worked a day in her life.
But a woman that raises five kids is working.
Right, but it's in the marketplace.
It is.
She means in the marketplace.
Right.
It's semantics.
Right, because they, because what Ann Romney was, what Mitt Romney was saying is that my wife talks to women about the economy, and this is what the women are saying about the economy.
And what Hillary Rosen was saying was like, she doesn't know a damn thing about the economy.
She's never worked outside the home.
She's never had to make those.
She didn't say outside the home, but everyone listening to her knew exactly that's what she meant.
And what people did was intentionally misinterpret it so they could have phony outrage over it, you know.
And by the way, even as a mother, Ann Romney has always been the wife of a multi-millionaire.
Pretty sure those kids had a nanny or 12.
And I'm guessing Ann Romney has never had to check the price of milk at Costco either.
With a kid strapped to her chest and another one doing wheelies with the shopping cart.
By Mitt Romney's own admission, the woman drives a couple of Cadillacs, not a 2004 minivan, a couple of frigging Cadillacs.
Is motherhood one of the toughest jobs in the world?
Yes, unless you can afford for it not to be.
So it's obvious what she was saying, but some people intentionally misinterpreted it to make it look like an attack on moms.
And instead of the news media just debunking it and moving on, they repeated the false claim of outrage and validated it.
A Democratic strategist took aim at Mitt Romney's wife, Ann, the mother of five, and the criticism was this, that she had, quote, never worked a day in her life.
That's the only quote.
That's the only part of the quote that they quote.
That's the only part.
All day long, a furious debate and a brigade of first ladies rushing to Ann Romney's defense.
Because we in the news media wouldn't debunk this for you and tell you that it was phony outrage.
ABC's Jake Tapper has that story.
There's Jake.
In an interview with ABC Cedar Rapids Iowa affiliate today, President Obama distanced himself from remarks by a prominent Democrat, seemingly belittling the work of stay-at-home moms.
Seemingly.
Did you hear how he said?
Seemingly.
Well, which was it?
Jake, was she belittling the stay-at-home moms or wasn't she?
Seemingly?
It's like it's such a mystery that we would know her intention.
Like, there's no way to know it.
There's no way we could ever figure out what she was trying to say.
If I could just play devil's advocate for a second, I do take exception to the idea that it's easy to be a mom if you have money.
It is.
I would just look at it this way.
It's way, way, way easier.
There are certain things that are easier.
You don't know what kind of emotional issues your kids have.
You don't know what kind of social pressures.
Right.
But being able to deal with those things is a luxury because for a lot of mothers, you know, their kids are going through all kinds of things, but they have to work.
A lot of mothers would rather be home with their kids, but because of economic circumstances, they can't.
They have to.
So to be able to deal, oh, little Billy is having emotional problems, to be able to deal with that and give it your full attention.
I see.
That's a luxury.
You're talking about the difference between a woman who has to work and a woman who gets to stay at home and not have to work.
Right, and not have to work.
I would agree, but I thought you were saying the difference between a woman who has money and is raising her kids and a woman who doesn't have money and is raising her kids.
I would say that that.
I am talking about that.
I'm saying that what we're talking about is moms who have to work outside the home, as opposed to Ann Romney, who doesn't even have to work inside her home.
She's not a stay-at-home mom.
She's a stay-at-home mom.
She's.
She has several men.
I agree.
I agree.
And she's never had to make that decision.
My kid's sick, but I have to go to work.
What do I do?
She's never had to make that decision.
Hey, you know, I can't afford to pay for daycare, but I have to go to work.
So this is what Hillary Rosen was talking about.
And they pretended like Hillary Rosen, who's a mother herself, a single mom, by the way.
They pretended.
And was disparaged by the head of the RNC for being a lesbian.
And then they immediately came out and made fun of her being a lesbian, which that didn't get any play.
That didn't get any play in the...
And here's the one quote that I, I won't give you the rest of the quote.
I'll just give you.
So it sounds like this woman came out.
Moms don't work.
It's what Diane Sawyer made it sound like she was saying.
And that, and so after Diane Sawyer and Jake Tapper and the rest of the media covered it that way, that left Ann Romney to say this.
This is obviously an awesome responsibility to raise children.
Mitt said to me more times than you would imagine.
And your job is more important than mine.
Okay, so I would imagine him saying it zero times.
So if it was more than zero, so zero times zero is still zero.
Mitt never said that.
I'll go to my grave.
Mitt never told his wife that your job as mother with all our nannies is more important than mine.
It never happened.
So if you take, and by the way, because if you took two seconds to Google Mitt Romney and working moms, you would find out that he himself does not consider motherhood to be actual work.
And how do I know that?
Because I did that.
Even if you have a child two years of age, you need to go to work.
And people said, well, that's heartless.
And I said, no, no, I'm willing to spend more giving daycare to allow those parents to go back to work.
It'll cost the state more providing that daycare.
But I want the individuals to have the dignity of work.
So he's saying his wife doesn't have the dignity of work unless you work outside of the house.
That's Mitt Romney's own words.
So did Jake Tapper bother to work?
That got very little play.
It was Chris Hayes is the one who found it, and it didn't get nearly as much play as Hillary Rose.
But is he saying if their choices, if they have an urge in them to work and have a career?
That's not what he's saying.
Or is he saying you should work with me?
He's saying if you want welfare money, you should go to work.
He's saying if you want welfare, you have to go to work.
Meaning being a mother isn't work.
You don't know dignity until you work outside the house.
That's what he said.
That's not us misinterpreting what he said.
That's not what, like what they're doing with Hillary Rosen.
And also, yeah, this whole Hillary Rosen thing was, I mean, it's hard for the media to reach new lows, but this was the meeting at its absolute worst.
Because for one thing, she's not, she's just a strategist.
She's not associated.
Although a lot of outlets said, you know, Obama advisor Hillary, she's not.
Just like they said, George Zimmerman is a neighborhood watch captain.
He wasn't a neighborhood watcher.
And it's like it's just one pundit saying something, and they act.
And even I watched part of George Stephanopoulos on Sunday morning, and Koki Roberts was saying, oh, you know, this just feeds into the image that the Democrats are elitist, whereas every poll shows that the public thinks that Romney is the elitist.
It's unbelievable.
They just ignore the world.
They ignore facts and just say whatever.
So when Mitt Romney says that you have to go, if you are poor, you don't have dignity until you work outside your house.
If you're poor, you don't have dignity until you work outside your house.
But then, so he said that, and then he gets to say this because the media won't hold his feet to the fire.
I happen to believe that all moms are working moms.
But that doesn't, because then you don't think that because you said this when you wanted to demonize welfare queens.
Even if you have a child two years of age, you need to go to work.
I want the individuals to have the dignity of work.
So in this clip, Mitt is saying exactly the kind of stuff they are claiming to be outraged about.
So it would be super easy for America's best journalists to quickly debunk the phony mommy outrage and dismiss it as pure politics.
But of course, that's not what happened.
What happened was the best journalists in the country continued to repeat the phony outrage instead of debunking it.
You know, what a press corps this good, is it any wonder we're laying off teachers, foreclosing on returning veterans and bonusing bankers?
Here they are.
Here's the news.
Here is Jake Tapper doubling down on adding validity to this BS charge.
Regardless of who they plan to vote for, women were talking today across this country about motherhood.
So regardless of who they're going to talk to, women across the country were talking about motherhood.
Working never off.
From Los Angeles to Chicago to Indiana, and Abby Murphy, now at home with her new baby, telling us it's far more difficult than the job she left behind.
Okay, continuing this phony meme.
Was that an RNC film that was?
This is unbelievable.
This is the hardest and longest job I've ever had.
By far.
Today, Mrs. Romney was asked, can she relate to mothers who did not have the choice she had?
They can't afford to stay home, forced to balance motherhood and a job to make ends meet.
Look, I know what it's like to struggle.
And if maybe I haven't struggled as much financially as some people have, I can tell you and promise you that I've had struggles in my life.
I was so, so frightened.
Ann Romney is a breast cancer survivor.
She also has multiple sclerosis.
And now, why don't you try to have both of those things while raising kids as a single mom and having to also work?
Right.
Also, having to worry about and not have health care.
So those are your struggles.
Think about the struggles poor women have that don't even have health care.
And by the way, I think you're minimizing the fact that she's had to struggle.
Those are serious struggles.
I'm not saying that they aren't struggles, but it's different to struggle with that when you don't have the mountain of worry that comes with that for most people.
Right.
And, you know, right now, Ann Romney...
I think struggles are struggles.
She couldn't get health care now.
Right.
You know, but her husband has $200 million, so that's not an issue for her.
But it is bad, breast cancer, and MS, and those are struggles.
Those are struggles, and I'm sure they were really hard.
And I'm not denying that, but I'm just saying that it is a different thing when you have those struggles, which are emotional and personal and not to be minimalized.
But it's different.
It's even worse when you don't have any resources, and that happens.
And that's the part that she's overlooking.
It's much worse because a person who gets diagnosed with that, whoever, whatever their economic status, it's going to be a horrible, painful, unbelievable struggle to deal with it.
But a poor person having that happen has a whole other gigantic mountain of burdens on top of them of like, oh my God, how am I going to pay for this?
And for a lot of people, a lot of people, they don't have the money to pay for it and they die.
But what's the reality in our country?
What about somebody who's not in the middle of the day?
She doesn't ill.
Ann Romney didn't have to die.
I agree.
I understand what you're saying.
When you're comparing two people that have the same physical illnesses and one has money and one doesn't, I don't disagree with you about that.
But saying that somebody who is healthy and has financial problems has it worse than somebody who has money and has breast cancer.
But that's not what I was saying, though.
But that's what Ann Romney was saying.
Here's what Ann Romney is saying.
She's just saying, I've had struggles.
Please respect the fact that I know what it's like to struggle, and I agree with her.
Here's what Ann Romney is saying.
She's saying, don't pay attention to that.
Pay attention to this.
Don't pay attention to the actual issue that Hillary Rosen was raising, which is that I don't have a damn clue what working women are going through in this country.
I don't have a clue what the economic problems facing working women are in this economy.
So what I want you to do is I want you to pay attention to the fact that I had breast cancer.
That's what she's doing.
She's again confusing the issue.
A struggle is not a struggle, especially when we're talking about a different struggle.
And by the way, her struggle with breast cancer, her husband's policies would make it harder for working women to get treated.
Okay, so here we go.
And if you needed any more proof that this was phony, purely political outrage, here is Ann Romney's reaction to the comment by Hillary Rosen when she thought the microphone was off.
It was my early birthday present.
Oh, by the way, it says read By Lawrence O'Donnell.
Okay.
It was my early birthday present for someone to be critical of me as a mother.
And that was really a defining moment.
And I loved it.
Wow.
Well, I'm glad she's gotten over her struggles.
She seems to be getting over her struggles.
It's bouncing right back.
It was a birthday present that she was insulted about her motherhood.
She loved it.
I don't have any problem with what she was supposedly caught saying.
Who, Ann Romney?
Yeah.
There's nothing wrong with that.
No, I don't think there's anything that she has an opinion on that she feels connected to, a topic, and she relished the opportunity to speak her mind instead of just being the woman standing behind the guy.
Oh, okay.
So, all right.
I would interpret it a different way.
My interpretation would be like, of course, this is all political football.
She's not really offended.
She knows that they're misinterpreting what she said.
If she said I wasn't really offended and it was nice to pretend I was, then I would say, yeah, that's, you know, she should be ashamed of that.
I would say that in terms of it being a birthday present for her, it's a case of, what do you get the woman who has everything?
So here is Ann Romney.
So about a week after all this started, of the phony outrage being repeated and validated by the American press, here is Ann Romney admitting that she doesn't believe any of the BS her husband has been saying about the Obama Obama administration's war on women.
She was overheard last night at a fundraiser saying it was a kind of birthday gift.
The attack on her as a mom.
That wasn't how I meant it.
Oh, you mean they're misinterpreting your words, Anne?
To make political points.
How could you believe that they would do that?
How cynical?
It was a birthday gift to me because I love the fact that we're talking about this.
I love the fact that women are talking about deficit spending.
Yeah, because before that, women were only talking about makeup and getting their hair.
Right?
What the hell do you think?
What?
All of a sudden, this made women start to.
Oh, yeah, you know, the women who are hurting economically, they weren't talking about it.
They weren't talking about it before.
I love that.
Do you think?
So here comes the big question.
Do you think President and Mrs. Obama are biased against mothers who work at home?
You know, I don't.
I think there was a comment that was made.
No, she doesn't think that they are.
So all that stuff is BS.
All that stuff that Mitt Romney's been saying for the last week and a half about there's a war on women by Barack Obama and Rohan Women and all that stuff.
And Hillary Rosen and all.
She just said she doesn't believe it.
She just said that.
She just said, no, I don't think so.
I don't think.
I like her.
I do.
I'm sure she'll say something that I dislike in a week.
Because I like that she would admit that.
Well, if she doesn't feel the same as her.
Well, Paul, as the Mormons say, if you like her so much, why don't you marry her?
Oh, by the way, I don't know if you know Rick Perry called me because I'm going to, we're going to Austin.
Hey, little brothers, Governor Rick Perry of Texas coming at you.
Look out.
A little bird told me that you are heading down here to Austin to be a part of the Moon Tower Comedy Festival this April 25th through 28th.
Man, I haven't heard news that exciting since Taco Cabana started serving breakfast all day.
Just giving you some, you know, some local reference jokes for your comedy shticks.
We're going to have so much fun, you and me.
Margarita's girlfriend.
This will be great, man.
I'm going to give you the red carpet treatment when you get down here.
I'll show you where Texas keeps its secret nukes.
I'll let you throw the switch on an execution.
I'll let you cut the rivet at a groundbreaking ceremony for a new Whataburger.
Hell, we could even make a visit to the best little whorehouse in Texas, the governor's mansion.
Seriously, though, whatever you desire.
So you're going to be doing left, right, and ridiculous here live, huh?
Or as it will be called in Texas, ridiculous, right, and ridiculous, sir.
Can't wait, Coach East.
Seeing you up there on stage playing clips and making jokes out of sight, man.
Get a panel of other funny dudes and dudettes up there.
Hey, maybe you can get Austin's own Mike McRae.
Then he can do one of his impressions of some retired character actor that no one gives a shit about.
Wow, that does sound like John Vernon.
Yawn.
I'll tell you what, though.
Governor of Texas and Austin resident.
I have been getting into the comedy myself.
In fact, I will be performing as well with my improv troupe, Suddenly Susan Sontag.
Just me and some Republican state senators, you know, having fun.
We take a suggestion from the audience, and then we pop painkillers and talk about Jesus.
You know, we've got wigs and fake hillbilly teeth and stuff.
To be honest with you, Jim Dam, I've had a lot of time on my hands since I dropped out of the presidential race.
Being governor isn't really that demanding.
Texas pretty much runs itself.
Just a giant Swiss watch of institutionalized violence and obesity that all just sort of works itself out.
Mainly what I've been doing is getting together with buddies in my private screening room, cracking open some lone stars and watching old tapes of me from the debates and the campaign trail.
Man, I am dumb.
I mean, mice and men dumb.
Did you ever see that movie, Mice and Men, or of Mice and Men or something?
You know, just, you know what I'm talking about.
But I locked over.
There's a bunch of versions.
I like the one with Gary Sinise and John Malkovich.
That one's my favorite.
Because, you know, Gary Sinise is cool because he is in CSI New York and that's badass.
And I've always liked John Malkovich because in real life, he's a very effeminate effect gentleman.
But he knows how to play a tough guy in a movie.
And I respect that a lot.
If you know what I'm saying.
All right.
Well, hey, buddy.
I can't wait to have you down here in Austin.
We're going to get some barbecued textbooks and flapjacks.
Whatever we do down here.
I don't even know, man.
I'm drunk.
I'll see you all guys at the Moon Tower Comedy Festival here in Austin, Texas.
See you here, Jimmy.
Okay, that was Governor Rick Perry calling in, letting us know.
You know, whenever I'm confused about the complexities of public policy, I think, hmm, I wonder what a mediocre 70s rock star would think.
Some people would say he's not so mediocre.
Great guitarist.
He's a great guitarist.
Okay, I'll give it to him.
And thankfully, there's always one willing to share.
Ted Nugent, the patriot who pooped his pants to get out of going to Vietnam, literally.
That's right.
Nugent thought everyone should own guns until he heard the Viet Cong also had them too.
If you don't know that our government is wiping its with the Constitution, you're living under a rock someplace.
Four Supreme Court justices sign their name to a declaration that Americans have no fundamental right to self-defense.
That sounds like a stoned hippie.
And if you want.
Sounds like a stone hippie, even though he has no idea what he's talking about.
He's pretty sure that four Supreme Court justices could have signed.
I'm pretty sure they could have signed the lunch order, and Captain Rational here would see it as a threat to his right to own a machine gun.
Okay.
And as far as I know, in the last four years, the Supreme Court has overturned two major municipal gun bans.
They had municipal gun bans in the old West.
Let's just remember that.
Okay.
And what did, wait, did Ted Nugent just call some of the greatest legal minds in history in the history of the country stoned hippies?
I hung out with a few stone hippies in my day, and I got to tell you, none of them has ever said anything like Americans have no fundamental right to self-defense or really anything that interesting at all.
And if you want more of those kinds of evil anti-American people in the Supreme Court, then don't get involved and let Obama take office again.
Because I tell you this right now: if Barack Obama becomes the president in November, again, I will either be dead or in jail by this time next year.
Four more years.
Four more years.
I vote for dead.
It's nice to see that Romney's glad to have Ted Nugent helping him sew up the terrorist militia vote.
It is going to help him with that vote.
Because Ted Nugent just wants to restore American values like random violence.
Galvanize and promote and recruit people to vote for Mitt Romney.
We're done.
We'll be a suburb of Indonesia next year.
Our president and attorney general, our vice president Hillary Clinton, they're criminals.
We are patriots.
We are braveheart.
We need to ride into that battlefield and chop their heads off in November.
Am I any questions?
Yes.
Should you see a psychiatrist?
And can I answer that question for you?
I just say good job.
That's at the NRA convention.
And I say, good job, NRA, making sure average Americans don't think you're a bunch of paranoid gun-toting lunatic militants.
Chop their heads off.
I mean, that sentence ends in a preposition.
How crazy are you?
Did he actually shit his pants to get out of Vietnam?
Yes, yes.
Yes.
There's a long story he tells about it when he got his draft notice.
So a month before, he stopped going to the bathroom except in his pants.
So he would only go to the bathroom in his pants.
He stopped bathing.
And he stopped bathing.
And he stopped eating braveheart.
And he stopped eating healthy food.
So he would only eat crappy food, like just garbage.
So his physical would be so repulsive.
So he was passing out while he was there.
And so they gave him a 4F.
And the reason why he said he did that, because he had already learned how to play guitar and he had something to do.
Hey, Jimmy Door, it's Ted Nugent, the nudge, the Motor City madman, the game-hunting, meat-eating, handity-licking, rock and roll guitar god.
But more than that, I'm a patriot.
The only thing I love more than America is making thinly veiled threats of violence against its democratically elected leaders.
And I like to do it while I'm eating the raw meat that I kill with my own hands, by which I mean the rare steak that I order with my own hands at Sizzler.
Ted Nastity.
Jimmy, as you know, I'm in a bit of trouble with these Secret Service weasels who are okay with living the Wang Dang sweet Poontang lifestyle while they're in Columbia, cokehead nation of the world.
But back here in the U.S. Survey, all they want to do is hassle the hell out of little old me.
I don't know what's happening in this country.
Since when did threatening the life of the president of the United States become a federal crime?
I know you're not supposed to yell fire in a crowded theater, but I wouldn't know about that.
Hell, I'm too busy firing arrows that are on fire into my audience during my concerts to yell about it while I'm doing it.
Ted Nastity.
Neutral power.
Rock and roll fire hazard.
Look, Jimmy, I don't want to go to jail, so I'll come clean.
I could never kill another human being because, like a lot of conservatives, I talk a tough game, but I'm really a big fucking coward.
Hell, I avoided service in Vietnam by crapping my pants.
It's true.
I didn't bathe for a month when I showed up at the draft board.
My trousers were soaked with urine and caked with feces.
I had no problem defecating on myself.
All I had to do was think about how frightened I would be to be in actual combat and my anus pumped out poop like a chocolate syrup fountain at Dairy Queen.
It wasn't pretty, but I managed to avoid serving my country, which is the way we Republicans live the American dream.
The truth is, I am incapable of harming anyone else.
Hell, one time in the offices of Cree Magazine, I got the crap beat out of me by Iggy Pop.
Down south, they call him Iggy Soda.
And another time, the drummer from Bloyster Colt held me down while Deborah Harry fired on my face.
And, Jimmy, if you would see me crying my eyes out after Mark Farmer of Grand Funk Railroad gave me a wedging, you would never mistake me for a presidential assassin.
Dead Nugent Power.
Well, Jimmy, I gotta go.
My soy tofurki is cooking in the oven.
It's almost, I mean, the deer that I just shot with a bow and arrow is ready to be skinned alive.
So long, you big homo.
All the voices were performed by Mike McRae at, and you can reach Mike McRae at mikemcray.com.
Come into a sitting near you, but he's going to be in Austin with the Jimmy Dore show doing left, right, and ridiculous on the 27th and 28th of April at the Boon Tower Comedy Festival in Austin.
We'll see you there.
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