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July 15, 2011 - Jimmy Dore Show
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It's the Jimmy Door show.
It's the show that makes Anderson Cooper say It's hard to talk in your T-Dagging So sit back or sit up or keep driving now Here's a guy who sounds a lot like me It's Jimmy Door Hey everybody welcome to today's show.
I am joined in studio as always from cinematictitanic.com and Mystery Science Theater 3000 It's Frank Conniff.
Hi Frank.
Hey Jimmy.
And from TBS's Dinner in a Movie and the Mental Illness Happy Hour Podcast.
It's Paul Gildmartin.
Big old boogie.
And from Team Yasamura, it's Robert Yasamura.
Hello, Robert.
How are you?
I am good.
Okay.
Wow.
Racist.
Okay, what's coming up on today?
First of all, I want to say thanks to everybody over at the Young Turks, to Jank and Anna and Tom Hank and Frank.
We guest hosted on the Young Turks yesterday and Tuesday, and it was some of the most fun I've had in a long time.
You did a great job yourself, Frank.
Thank you.
I was to you.
I was hoping you would compliment me back.
Thank you very much.
Did they have to call it the old Turks because you guys were there?
Yes, they did.
They called it the 45-year-old Irish Polak Turks.
It was the first time the Young Turks ever came with an AARP discount.
Wow.
Barack O. Oh, so what's coming up on today's show?
Well, on Monday, Barack Obama took a break from caving into Republicans to hold a press conference where he bragged about caving into Republicans.
And we're going to take a look at the debt ceiling crisis and how the press covers it by taking a look at the Christine Amamhor's roundtable discussion from last Sunday.
And you've got to hand it to the folks over at ABC News.
They go all out.
They go all out to get all different perspectives on their roundtables.
Like, for instance, last Sunday, they had four Republicans on who wanted to cut Medicare and Social Security.
And for balance, they brought on a Democrat that wanted to cut Medicare and Social Security.
So we're going to go in depth and take a look at that because I think it shows us everything that's wrong with the media, the discussion that's happening about this debt ceiling, and our country, basically.
So then we're going to talk about next Rupert Murdoch, the nicest megalomaniac to ever hack a dead girl's voicemail.
He withdrew his bid to buy British Sky Broadcasting, saying that the public opinion had turned hard against him, stating he was shocked and hurt to hear the horrible things people were saying about him on their private voicemails.
The scandal tarnishes the Murdoch brand and creates the impression that everything he does is sleazy, which he'll have to fight against by lying.
Plus, we have phone calls coming in today from John Boehner, Bill O'Reilly, and a new phone call from Texas Governor Rick Perry, commentary from Jim Hightower, and a lot more.
That's today on the Jimmy Dore Show.
We'll be right back.
Time for another installment of Oh My God.
Okay, so today we go to Congressional Representative Mo Brooks from Alabama, and he's tired of immigration.
What about Larry and Curly?
So Representative Mo Brooks from Alabama, he's tired of immigration.
He's tired of immigrants taking away our jobs, and he's going to do everything to stop illegal immigration.
But he's very responsible about it.
He's not going to fly off the handle and say something that's going to incite people.
Well, anyway, I'm just going to play.
This is what he's, this is how he plans.
This is his pledge to his constituents if they elect him what he's going to do to end immigration.
Ready?
Here is Mo.
As your congressman on the House floor, I'll do anything short of shooting them.
Anything that is lawful, it needs to be done because illegal aliens need to quit taking jobs for American citizens.
Oh my God.
Bullseye, Jimmy.
Well, wait a minute.
Why are you so racist?
He said anything short of shooting.
He said his defense, he said he's not going to shoot them.
He'll do everything.
He'll stab them.
He'll hang them together.
He'll stab them, beat them with sticks.
He'll hobble them.
Yeah, hobble them.
Sure.
He'll run them off the road with his car.
You know, first of all, let's give him kudos for sticking his neck out south of the Mason-Dixon line by taking an unpopular stand like that.
Yeah, I mean, especially in Mexican-friendly Alabama.
Yeah, has this guy ever met a Mexican in Alabama?
Not one.
He's been to Chi-Chi's, and it was a very, very abrupt experience.
I didn't know they had border problems in Alabama.
They think they do.
They don't know that that's just actually Mississippi.
They understand.
Those are just people from the unwashed from Mississippi coming over to Alabama.
I don't think anybody from either of those states listens to us.
And if they do, they know that the state they live in is horrible and that they want to get out.
Yeah.
Right?
I don't know.
Have you been?
That's the one state I have never been to.
I've been to Alabama.
What part of Alabama?
It was near Dothan, Alabama.
And it was a one-nighter.
And it was doing stand-up comedy.
And it was one of those deals where everybody's in their cowboy boots dancing on the parquet floor.
And they go, all right, everybody, clear the floor.
It's time for comedy.
And I'm just like, oh, no.
And so the guy in the DJ booth says, ladies and gentlemen, Paul Gilmartin.
And he hands me the microphone, and the microphone is wrapped 100 times around the DJ booth railing.
And the dance floor where I'm supposed to go stand is 100 yards away.
So I've got to start my show by going, hi, how's everybody doing?
Unwrap.
It went downhill from there.
And I'm guessing the audience did everything to heckle you short of shooting you.
That's right.
That's right.
Thank you for indulging me in that.
No, that was a great story.
We'll cut it out.
I would like to hear Representative Mo Brooks one more time.
Ready?
As your congressman on the House floor, I'll do anything short of shooting them.
Anything that is lawful, it needs to be done because illegal aliens need to quit taking jobs for American citizens.
Okay, there you have it.
But he mentions it on, he says specifically the House floor.
Does he know that illegal alien problems aren't on the house floor?
They're not showing up there.
I am not sure.
I understand he's so dedicated to stopping illegal aliens that he's going to get cheap labor from in front of the Home Depot to help him.
Yeah, fight them off.
Some day laborers.
Yes.
Yeah.
Sure.
Don't you think even a dime store psychologist would say what he really wants to do is shoot them, but he knows that he can't.
Paul, you sure you didn't have any training?
You haven't been to school?
Come on.
You've taken Psych 101 at least.
I hope you cut that part out more than the other part.
You think that he really wants to shoot him?
Wow, that's insightful, Paul.
I got to tell you, if I ever wanted to, I didn't see the big picture.
He sees right through it.
He's so embarrassed, right?
You know, Paul, do you think he doesn't like Mexicans?
Please stop.
Make this go away.
Okay, I make it go away.
This has been, oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
Oh, I wish I knew what that, oh, my God, was from that time.
I think it was that the witch that was running for Senate.
And she didn't know the First Amendment.
When is she coming back?
Christine O'Donnell, I hope she's.
Yeah, we miss her.
Or it might have been the Rush Limbaugh where he was talking about how hungry, homeless kids should go dumpster diving.
Oh, that was a might have been from that one.
I get Rupert Pupkin and Rupert Murdoch mixed up, which is the bigger jackass.
It's a tie.
Okay, and before we get into the Rupert Burdock chunk, I would like to remind people that the Jimmy Door show, if you missed any part of today's show, you can get a podcast of it for free at iTunes or go to JimmyDoorComedy.com and you can download it there in many different formats, many different ways.
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Right now, Rupert Murdoch is in the news.
One of my favorite things to do was when I watched Citizen Kane is every time they say the hero's name, I substitute Rupert Murdoch in my head, right?
And I love that the media is portraying this as a huge scandal, that Rupert Murdoch, the fact that he is illegally hacking into people's voicemails and that somehow he's going to be punished because he's not allowed to buy another multi-million dollar.
He can't buy the controlling interest in another multimedia organization.
I wish consequences work like that for me.
Hey, Jimmy, you just broke into someone's house and shot somebody.
Well, you're not going to get to buy that Ferrari next week, young man.
Yeah.
That's how it happens.
And I also love that Burdock's company is coming under scrutiny for its unethical methods of getting at the truth.
Shouldn't the bigger story been that Fox News method of just not telling the truth is the first?
I mean, so if it came out that Fox News was hacking into people's voicemails here in America, but they were doing factually accurate reports, I don't think people would be that business.
They go, wow, they're actually aggressively pursuing news instead of passively filtering it.
Or just making it up, which is what they do.
But I think what this really exemplifies is that no one is saying that this entire scandal exemplifies the problem of Western corporate structure, whose motto is do whatever you have to do to maximize profits and minimize costs and do it every quarter or you're fired.
And yes, you can totally breach ethics and break the law as long as you run the numbers and it's worth the risk.
Profits are moral.
Profits are moral.
Greed is good.
You don't believe me?
There are 29 people who would still be alive today in West Virginia if Massey Energy hadn't run the numbers and realized safety violations were totally worth the risk.
And what did Massey Energy get for its deadly malfeasance?
They got bought out for $7 billion.
There are 11 people dead who used to work at an office called the Deepwater Horizon.
And in that office, the Xerox machine was always out of toner.
And the blow-out preventer was not up to spec.
Still, I bet those employees would tell you that their stock options in Transocean were doing great right up until the moment they were blown off the planet.
It's not even the people who create this problem that are evil.
It's the shareholders.
It's everyone with a mutual fund.
It's you, it's me.
The news of the world was doing exactly what it was supposed to be doing according to this corporate business model.
Did they break the law?
Sure.
But until they got caught, everybody was happy.
And, you know, Rupert Murdoch, let me just say, why doesn't he just go ahead and get the Nehru jacket and his cat and just start stroking it all the time?
Just go ahead and commit all the way.
Now, do you think there's going to be any ramification?
He's taking bids on cats right now.
That's why.
Do you think that there's any, I'll ask you, Frank, do you think there's anything that's going to happen to Rupert Murdoch of any consequence?
Well, the consequence, today, the Emmys came out, and the Emmy nominated, and he's nominated for best phone hacking in a limited series.
So, you know, aside from what you said, you know, he can't buy B-Sky Network or whatever it's called.
There's not going to really be any consequences for him.
You know, they're going, Paul, you can say that.
I think you hit the nail on the head.
This is, you know, this is what Ayn Rand Ayn Rand gives you when you corporations are allowed to do what they want.
This is as bad as communism.
You know, someone said they did a study and a psychological study of corporations, and they act exactly like an amoral psychopath would act.
They're consciousless.
They have no concern about the future.
They act only in their immediate self-interest.
And in a lot of ways, they are their own worst enemy because they're worshiping of the quarterly bottom line to please investors in the short run.
They often, as you see, like with the big three auto, have no game plan for the long term and they paint themselves into these corners.
Right.
Robert, what do you think about the Rupert Murdoch?
I think absolutely nothing's going to happen to this guy.
I think this is, we might as well not even talk about the story because nothing's going to change.
Exactly nothing.
You don't think, really?
I don't even think the players are going to change.
I think like Rupert Murdoch is going to, this is a little blip in his life.
And he's going to go back to whatever.
He's going to go back to being a Doctor Who villain.
A couple of people will take the fall.
Everybody will forget about it.
And then he'll go back to doing what he does.
You know, people like him are no different really than drug addicts that break into people's houses.
They just do it on a huge scale, but because they have jets, for some reason, we don't.
You're right, Paul.
He's addicted to money and power.
To the point where he'll break laws internationally to do it and do really nefarious stuff.
Do you want to say something?
Yeah, I want to weigh in.
I think there is something that's going to come down.
I really think they are going to be held accountable.
I think his son is going to be tried for these crimes.
Really?
Yes.
I really think in the UK, it seems like they are really, for the last five years, they've been investigating this.
Okay.
You think in the UK that he'll be brought up on charges?
Yes, but I think it's also going to touch his licensing, Murdoch's licensing in the United States.
I'm weighing in now, fellas.
Yeah.
I'm letting you know right now.
I sure hope that's true, but I think everybody below his family members is at risk for taking the call.
I don't believe anybody in his family is going to spend a day in jail.
I just hope it doesn't lower the quality on the Fox News Network.
I think that what's going to happen is they're going to arrest him.
He's going to do hard time.
They're going to split up his company into smaller companies, encouraging competition and bring some health back to the media in America.
And I think they're going to write this course.
That's my prediction.
How sad is it that that's been the funniest thing on the show?
How sad is that?
I also think, you know, it just occurs to me, too, that, you know, if they can do this phone hacking, and, you know, they're a big corporation, everything.
I mean, and, you know, the world is so wired in now.
Like, I'm sure everything that's being done is being eavesdropped on and being scrutinized.
And, you know, anyone who's except the shows we produce that we want people to hear.
Yes, right.
Exactly.
Except for I'm trying to get my agent to get my stuff hacked, but he says, I don't have the marketability for that.
But, you know, so yeah, it just occurs to me that this kind of thing really happens a lot more than we let ourselves think about, you know, of phones being eavesdropped on and agencies looking at what we're looking at.
Well, I think I saw Eric Holder, the Defense Secretary, in his last testimony, for some reason, he mentioned he couldn't believe the weird kind of porn that I'm into online.
So that kind of worried me.
I wish we had a libertarian on the panel because I'd like to hear them defend this.
Because this is what, if libertarians had their dream, this is the stuff that would happen even more frequently.
Oh, really?
So there'll be no government regulation to stop something like this, you mean?
Right, because they're for absolutely basically almost no government, aren't they?
Libertarians?
I don't know if they're against having things that are crimes be prosecuted.
I don't know about that.
Libertarians make a lot of sense until you listen to them.
Right.
And you're like, oh, yeah, freedom, liberty.
And then they're like, yeah, get rid of the roads, schools, education.
Post-off.
Like, what?
It makes a lot of sense until there's a fire in your house.
Or you need something, or you want to drive somewhere.
Or any story about corporate malfeasance.
Right.
Literally any story.
I mean, because these are all consequences of capitalism completely unregulated.
Everything that's going on at Fox is that's because we've allowed for monopolies because we have these quarterly issues where it's like, of course they're going to hack.
They're going to do anything they can to get a story.
They're going to do anything they can to every quarter be upping their circulation.
The economy is a whore that has V D, and we keep fucking her.
Does that have to be edited?
I'm unclear.
That's the first F word of the show.
That's Paul Gilbert.
I mean, but don't you feel that so many decisions are made because we're afraid it's going to negatively affect the economy.
Yes, and maybe in the short run, by ignoring it, it doesn't hurt it.
But in the long run, we wind up with these problems because we're so afraid of not letting two corporations merge.
You know what?
Actually, Bill O'Reilly called me, and he's got something to say about this whole scandal.
Jimmy Dore.
How's it going, Bill O'Reilly?
So, true inform, you and your old Pinhead friends are going after Fox News and News Corp over this whole flap about Rupert Murdoch and everything.
And hey, look, I got to defend my boss here.
Technically, my boss's boss.
This is nonsense, all this stuff about this voicemail crap.
Let me explain something to you, idiots.
Your voicemail is not your private property, okay?
You got no reasonable expectation of privacy there.
Time was back in the day, your telephone used to belong to the phone company.
Now, that may not be the case anymore, but your voicemails don't belong to you because they're not inside your phone.
Stored at the phone company.
So they're not even yours to begin with, Pinhead.
So think about that for a second.
Yeah, I don't care.
You know, I don't care.
You want to hear my voicemails?
I don't give a fuck.
I don't care.
Go ahead and listen to them.
You'd be very bored.
I'll give you the Gary Hart treatment on that.
I got a couple of men there.
You hear, what do you see?
There's one from my accountant.
I dare you to listen to that.
It's one from Rob.
My boss, Roger Ailes, invited me upstairs to his office to work on a plate of pork shoulders with him.
Voicemails from Glenn Backs, just him calling and crying.
I guess.
And then it's just, you know, maybe a voicemail from the guy that I get my loofahs and falafels from.
I got a guy for that, Jimmy.
So whatever.
I mean, if these people have something to hide in their voicemails, maybe they shouldn't be hiding them in the first place.
We're allowed to listen to other people.
We're allowed to hack in.
That's how it goes.
Just because you're 13 and dead doesn't mean the news stops.
Oh, my God.
Wow.
Oh, Bill O'Reilly's out of line this week.
Hey, the news doesn't stop.
Oh, my God.
I don't know what's your problem.
Okay, right now, I want to remind everybody that guy saying, oh, my God, is going to be on a stand-up comedy show tonight in Burbank, California.
If you're in Los Angeles, we're doing the subversive comedy show tonight at Flappers Comedy Club in Burbank.
And who's on that show?
Paul Gilmartin's on that show.
Greg Proups is on that show.
Wow.
You know him from Whose Line Is It Anyway, among many, many other things.
His podcast is.
It's as good as it gets, basically, as a stand-up comedian.
Greg Proups.
Greg Proups.
And then Todd Glass is also on that show.
Todd Glass is also good.
One of the funniest human beings on the planet.
Todd Glass is as good or as it gets, right?
We have Jonah Ray's on that show, a hilarious young comic.
We have Robert Yasamur.
We have Paul Morrissey.
It's going to be a great show.
Some of the funniest guys around are on that show.
Are there any Republicans on the show tonight?
That's a couple.
There's a couple secret ones.
Oh, really?
Yeah, secret Republicans.
At Flappers in Burbank, Greg Proups, Todd Glass, Paul Gilmartin, Robert Yasamura, Jimmy Dore, Paul Morrissey, Jonah Ray.
It's going to be a great show.
What a show.
It is a great.
Seriously, what a show.
I'm excited about it.
Oh, yeah, medical marijuana.
If you show up tonight at Flappers in Burbank, and there's a link at my website, by the way, JimmyDoorComedy.com.
And if you show up tonight, you flash your medical marijuana card, you get in two for one.
You really think anybody's going to remember to bring theirs?
They've done it in the past.
Have they really?
Oh, sure.
They need to get better weed then.
One time I forgot to mention that, and someone emailed me, hey, is it still the two-for-one?
And I was like, yes, still the two-for-one.
My only experience with medical marijuana was one time years ago when I got high and watched Marcus Welby.
That is so funny, Frank, because I almost said Marcus Welby last night when I was on the Young Tokyo.
Oh, really?
And I switched it up and went Grey's Anatomy.
Well, that was, you made the smart book.
I don't tend to update things.
So people didn't think I was dead.
I was going to go with Ben Casey, but Marcus Welby.
Buddy Ebson's rolling his eyes.
Okay, we got a few minutes left before the bottom of the hour.
So I'm going to start.
Let's start talking about Christine.
You know what?
Let's play this clip.
We'll save that for the, we're going to push that back to the second half of the show.
Christine, I'm on.
And we'll go with, there's a lot of different ideas on how to fix the economy.
And right now, people are trying to scramble to cut the budgets everywhere.
Here's a representative who has an idea on how to his name is Kevin Brady.
He was on CNBC.
He's a Republican from Texas, right?
So you know he's got some good ideas on government.
And he thinks the problem with the with the budget is that the federal government isn't sacrificing enough.
Well, here it is.
I'll just let me just get you give you a little bit of background before I play this clip from him.
Over 500,000 government workers have lost their jobs since January 2009.
And 464,000 have found themselves jobless since September 2008.
Those are state employees.
State and local government employees have laid off 406,000.
So it's about a million people have lost their jobs in government since the start of this recession.
So just keep that in mind as we listen to this guy, right?
Representative Kevin Brady, aka Jack Assiman.
It's not like stopping sacrifice, sacrifice among energy companies, sacrifice among professionals and wealthy.
The truth is, when's the government going to sacrifice?
Everyone's been pitching pennies.
The government budgets have almost doubled the last couple years.
Most companies are laying off workers, especially small businesses.
Federal government's hiring federal workers.
So my question is, when's the government going to sacrifice in order to help us get our financial house in order?
So it's official that the litmus test for being a Republican representative is, can you say totally crazy with a straight face?
That's pretty much it.
You're going to shoot the immigrants.
We're going to fire.
You know what's going to help us get this unemployment number?
Don't start firing people.
Facts are very inconvenient, Jimmy.
I wish you knew that.
We need to start firing some more people, says Kevin Brady.
We need to fire more people, and that's what's going to get us out of this depression.
That's going to create jobs if we could fire people.
How about if they're into one...
You know, we have two senators for each state.
Why not cut it down to one senator for each state, you know, or cut down the number of congressmen from a state?
I never hear them talk.
Yeah, why don't we fire?
Why don't we start with him with his government job?
We can get rid of him.
That's face very well.
That'll save 100.
Let's go further.
Let's sell Texas.
I say the oh, let's go ahead and sell the.
Let's lay off Texas.
I don't, and it sounds like such a populist, stupid thing to say, but why don't we get rid of health care for congressmen so they know what it's like to not have health care?
Paul, I think it might have a hard time passing, but I'll submit it on the floor.
Yeah, would you?
We'll see what happens.
We'll see if John Boner picks it up or Eric Cantor.
By the way, by the way, you know how many congressmen could easily pick up a part-time job at Starbucks?
Because that's how little work they do.
Yes.
It used to be like a 60-hour week in Congress and in the Senate, and now it's like maybe a 25-hour week for those guys.
And all this stuff going on about the debt ceiling, it's like nothing else is important now.
Nothing in the past few weeks has been done to create jobs or anything.
It's just tough about this stupid debt debt.
Nothing's been done to create jobs since Barack Obama's lukewarm stimulus from 2009.
Yeah, that was the only thing ever done to stimulate jobs in America.
And we haven't done it again.
And we need to do another stimulus.
What about getting Bob Guccione to put a mirror on the debt ceiling?
What are they going to think about that?
It's pretty sexy.
It would be distracting and hot.
You know, let me just say this back up about Rupert Murdoch.
Bob Guccione reference makes me feel better about my market squad.
Anyway, go ahead.
Well, I'll make a reference right now is that that Rupert Murdoch is the Larry Flint of news media.
Yeah.
He he took.
I have to be honest.
Well, I was saying to Steph on the way down here today that actually Larry Flint isn't as bad or immoral as Rupert Murdoch.
Not even close.
No, Larry Flint didn't hack and he didn't do anything illegal.
No.
And some people would say it's immoral, but it's certainly not illegal.
And he certainly didn't break laws and he didn't hurt people.
Yeah, the worst thing Larry Flint ever did was be in bad taste.
Yes.
He never lied.
He never committed felonies.
Right.
And he helped bring down the speakers of the house in the clinic.
So he did do some good work, too.
And that was without hacking into someone's voice.
I was so just to show my appreciation for him, I went to the hustler store and bought a dildo.
You know, just to show that I'm behind you.
And we'll be right.
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All right, now back to this week's show.
Everybody, welcome back to the Jimmy Doer Show.
I am joined in studio by Frank Conniff from Mystery Science Theater 3000 and CinematicTitanic.com and with Paul Gilmartin from Dinner and a Movie on TBS and the Mental Illness Happy Hour Podcast and Robert Yasamura from Team Yasamura.
When what's coming up on the rest of today's show?
Well, Jim Hightower is going to stop by and leave us his commentary.
Then we come back from that.
We're going to go into the Christine Amenhor's roundtable from last week and everything that's wrong with our media economy and government.
And then we're going to go into Barack Obama's press conference last Monday.
And right now, here's Jim Hightower.
If you find it necessary to declare on national television that, quote, I am a serious person, you're probably not.
Neat Michelle Bachman.
She's currently running for president, but suffering a few credibility problems.
One is that she keeps creating her own fanciful version of history.
For example, she recently bewildered Iowa voters by asserting that the founding fathers had magnanimously included every American in the nation's new government.
Quote, it didn't matter the color of people's skin, she marveled.
It didn't matter whether they were of a higher class or a lower class.
It made no difference.
Seriously?
Indeed, Bachman plowed straight ahead into a fantasy about the founders' glorious work to free the slaves.
She insisted that these wealthy, white, slave-owning men, quote, worked tirelessly until slavery was no more in the United States.
Seriously.
No surprise Then that the Congresswoman also invents her own personal history.
While she unsparingly attacks Washington's spending addiction, she apparently doesn't own a mirror.
It turns out that her husband's counseling clinic has received thousands of dollars in state and federal grants.
Oh, she dodges.
Those tax dollars didn't come to us.
Seriously?
Yes, she explains.
The money went to train our clinic's employees, as though that's not a subsidy for their business.
Then there is the $260,000 in subsidies for her family's farm.
Oh, she dissembled.
That went to my father-in-law, adding that I have never gotten a penny from the farm.
Seriously?
But wait, she's listed as a partner in the farm, and her financial disclosure forms report that, in fact, she has received $105,000 in income from it.
This is Jim Hightower saying, Bachman says she wants to take government back.
And in all seriousness, it looks like she's already claiming back her piece of it.
Hi, that's Jim Hightower.
Thanks, Jim, for stopping by.
He's here every week on the Jimmy Door show, letting us know what's happening.
And right now, so I was watching This Week.
That's a funny name for its show, This Week.
Well, it used to be called This Week with David Brinkley.
Yeah.
When David Brinkley left there.
Now it's not called.
It's called This Week.
Just This Week.
For a while, they tried This Week Without David Brinkley, and I thought this is really unnecessary.
That's actually a better name, though.
I would like that, actually.
So I'm watching Christine Amanpour, and George Will.
You know, I have always assumed that at some point in the 60s, a hippie stole George Will's girlfriend.
And he vowed to become a columnist and a pundit and really stick it to those hippie liberal communists with their smoldering good looks and sexually exciting political views.
Well, true to his vow, George never misses an opportunity to really stick it to those no-nukes, flower children, and those crunchy homosexual environmentalists, even when he's being asked about a completely unrelated subject, like, say, the debt ceiling.
Here's what George had to say.
And part of the problem is that I think the American people are suffering a pocket lips fatigue.
They've been told over the last 40 years they're going to die from nuclear winter global cooling, global warming, and they just hear now that this is Armageddon.
I don't think they believe it.
Yeah, he doesn't think they believe it.
So because global warming hasn't yet wiped us out, people aren't going to, we shouldn't, according to George Will, we shouldn't heed economic warnings anymore because it hasn't totally, completely wiped us out.
You know, who need warnings, warnings?
Come on, I can't, sure.
Hey, the Al-Qaeda are learning to take off and not lay.
Global warming hasn't killed me yet.
Any dire warning should be met with.
I'm over that.
Yeah, George Will.
You know, warnings are for sissies, which is why you think George Will would like them.
But I really, you know, Frank, when you have a hard time sleeping, I know what you do.
Oh, yeah, I read one of George Will's baseball books.
Right?
There's nothing like a geeky guy writing about a sport he can never play adequately.
But I think he shows that he's a regular guy, that he likes baseball.
Regular guy who has several advanced degrees from Princeton.
Yes, just a regular guy who combs his hair like he has a toupee, but he doesn't.
And also coached Reagan in the debates way back in the day.
Oh, did he?
And then was a commentator on the debates.
And it was a sort of a scandal at the time, but it had no effect on his.
No, no.
Well, here we go.
Well, it's funny that you talk about having no effect because Christine Amanpour, which almost never happens on ABC, at any of the talk shows on Sunday or any news shows, is she actually corrects him.
Here's Christine American correcting him.
Ready?
Here we go.
But George, you're suggesting that there's not a big catastrophe looming if the U.S. government defaults.
And every economist, including the head of the IMF, not the liberal lending and spending organization, but real sort of serious organizations are really worried.
See, now what she doesn't say is to him, hey, George, she corrected him, but she didn't correct him in the way that she should correct him.
Like, hey, George, could you please not bring in that weak stuff into my show and insult our intelligence by saying something that's so ridiculous that no one agrees with in the world?
She didn't say that.
She's like, come on, George.
Come on.
Even other people think this.
Come on, George.
Come on.
Come on, George.
She has to like placate the mental.
I don't.
Okay.
It's enough to make me want to choke somebody.
I'm sorry, there's no money for that.
There is no money for that.
Are they hiring at the liberal lending and spending corporation?
No, they are not.
Okay, because I want a job there.
So here is Al Hunt from Bloomberg News.
He was on the show, and he also corrected George Will.
Here's what he said.
It may not be Armageddon, George, but a default would be cataclysmic.
It would be, I agree with Jonathan that there's no economist who doesn't believe that.
So now there's El Hunt saying, hey, George, what you just said, there's no economist in the entire world who believes what you said, but I'll continue to pretend that you're not a complete tool and not being totally wrong.
You're just a guy who likes to spend his time being useless.
Would it be funny if all of a sudden the ghost of a Mayan came in and said, no, seriously, 2012 is going to be pretty bad.
I mean, that's a big problem now because now, George Will, you made the point before, Frank, that the reason why nobody really does correct him in the way that you, if someone said that to you in your life, something that ridiculous, like, ah, we shouldn't worry about this financial calamity because, you know, we've been warned about global warming killing us, and it hasn't happened yet.
You'd go, what is wrong with you, you stupid judge?
You certainly wouldn't give him a microphone and put him on ABC.
But the reason why is because he's coming back next week.
That's why he'll be back.
They don't want it to be awkward.
That's what it is, right?
Okay, so we'll move on.
Hold on.
They don't go after him for the same reason most people haven't gone after Rupert Murdoch in the past because he has a column.
Because he is a power broker because he has access to the media.
That's why no one goes after George Will, even though he's completely full of it.
And he's an on-the-record liar.
On the record liar.
Yes.
He's been caught lying before the print.
Yeah.
Bullblown.
But that profession to TV pundit is the one profession where no matter what you do, nothing will end it.
Ever.
Nothing.
No matter how many times you're wrong about something.
And everyone, you know, 98% of the pundits on TV talking about the Iraq war and the lead up to it were all incredibly wrong about it.
Yes.
Incredibly uninformed.
And just like spouted whatever was at the top of their heads.
And none of them suffered any consequences from it.
They're all still there, like on TV as experts.
But weren't they vindicated when we found the weapons of mass destruction?
That's the thing.
They were vindicated.
And then there was those links between Saddam and Al-Qaeda that they discovered too.
And then, you know, as soon as we can get rid of those last few million al-Qaeda in Afghanistan.
Oh, I'm sorry, then 50 guys that are still there.
So here's what the, so she goes on to ask a question.
She goes on to compliment the Republicans on their horror.
Everybody agrees that what they're doing with the debt ceiling is kind of irresponsible to even do it.
So here's what, but she compliments them on it.
Here's Christine Alman Forest.
Everybody knows that entitlements have to be in play as well.
I just, first of all, it's like that.
Everybody knows.
Everybody knows.
Let me read you a stat.
They did a survey from last April, and they found out that 70% of people who identify as Tea Party Republicans are against cutting Medicare and Social Security.
70% to balance the budget.
70% of people who identify, 93% of Democrats disagree with doing that.
And overall, it's like 80% of people.
Most people are not everybody, though.
Yes.
Wait, wait, wait.
You said 93% of Democrats are against it.
Are against cutting Medicare and Social Security to balance the budget.
70% of people who consider themselves Teabag or Tea Party Republicans are against April.
And also, you know, it's just the way the media moves the conversation because, you know, a couple of years ago, this was unthinkable that you would touch Social Security or Medicare.
And George Bush tried to do it, and it was a big disaster.
But that's what I said.
You know, a Republican was never going to be allowed to cut Medicare or Social Security.
Just like it took Nixon to go to China, it's going to take a Democrat to cut Medicare and Social Security.
And Barack Obama cannot wait to do it.
It's like, ooh, finally, I get my chance.
So here's what Christine Umanpour has to say.
Everybody knows that entitlements have to be in play as well.
And if it hadn't been for the hardware negotiations that the Republicans were doing, the president may not have come to even talking about entitlement.
See, if it wasn't for the Republicans being completely irresponsible maniac, the president might not even be willing to do something horrible like cut Medicare and Social Security.
Shouldn't we thank them for that?
Well, that's been part of the narrative, too.
It's like, you know, when Paul Ryan first came out with his plan, it was like, well, okay, maybe it's not politically feasible, but it's very brave that he's doing this.
Oh, it's brave.
That's what David Brooks said.
That's what everybody said.
David Gregory said that.
Everybody said that.
That's right.
He's being very brave, courage, showing courage.
So here, and now here she is again complimenting this.
Floated the idea that he's willing to look at entitlements, which is what everybody says also has to be on the table.
I suggested to Bill Daley that the president was late to the actual hard negotiations, and he obviously pushed back on that.
But he has been sort of pushed into this debate by hardball Republican tactics.
They're on Republican terms right now.
Again, she has been pushed into this debate by hardball Republican tactics, and they've framed the debate right now.
Yeah, that's right.
But there was a ninja thing.
Now, let me just stop it right here.
According to a lot of people, what Barack Obama did was out-ninja the Republicans because he made a deal.
He offered to cut Social Security and Medicare.
This is according to a lot of people now, Lawrence O'Donnell being the loudest one, saying that what he did was he offered cuts in Medicare and Social Security that he knew he would never have to make because the Republicans would never agree to raising taxes.
So if they wouldn't agree, so then he got to present himself as the conciliator, the compromiser, the reasonable adult in the room, and he would out them for being ideologues who weren't willing to compromise to reach an agreement.
And so now he wins.
That's the theory right now that's happening, that Barack Obama is not giving.
He's calling him on their bluff.
That he's just, yeah, he's bluffing when he says I want to cut Medicare and Social Security.
I submit he is not bluffing.
He really is willing to cut Social Security and Medicare.
And if they come along fine, and if they don't, then he wins.
He wins the debate, in a sense.
But what makes what O'Donnell says plausible, I think, is that the Republican, because it's like you said, it's taking a Democrat to do this.
And so here we have in whatever the deal was a few days ago that Barack wanted to sign off on with Boehner would be something that the Republicans have wanted for decades.
Cutting, cutting, Medicare and Society.
Maybe not as much as they want, but to an extent that would be unprecedented.
And they're not going along with it.
They're literally not going along with something that is what they've always wanted.
Just because they won't raise taxes on millions.
On millionaires, yeah.
So it is, that makes the argument plausible to me because it's, you know.
Well, here's what I say.
Because if they had agreed to it, then it would be looked at as a huge victory, I think, by the media and by everybody as a huge victory for the Republicans.
Yes, it would be.
Yeah.
But here's what I say.
If Barack Obama is that deft of a negotiator, we'd have the public option.
We'd have another stimulus.
The first one would have been better than it was.
We would have a lot more things would have happened.
If he was that deft of a negotiator, so that's not what's happening.
He is willing to give up that stuff.
He can't wait to compromise.
He can't wait to give away the store.
I'm just telling you, that's just the way his brain works.
Well, here's what they had Donna Brazil on, and here's what she had to say about Christian Emanpur complimenting the Republicans.
There's no question.
By coming into the debate at the time the president showed up, the Republicans had already framed the narrative, and it's cut, cut, cut.
So she's admitting that, yeah, the Republicans won.
They framed the narrative, cut, cut, cut.
We're stuck in their narrative.
Why?
Why do you just concede the argument?
When Barack Obama says, I'm willing to compromise, what he should do is, here's the importance of framing the debate.
Right now, the debate is how much should we cut for Medicare and Social Security?
The debate shouldn't be that.
It should be.
The debate should be how much are we going to tax the millionaires and billionaires who have done amazingly well, the only people doing well in this economy.
Wages for middle class have been stagnant for 30 years.
Who has been making all the gains in this economy?
The upper 2%.
The debate should be, how much are we going to tax them?
Barack Obama should say, I want to raise it 5%, and the Republicans should say 1%.
That should be the debate.
Instead, the Republicans get to define the debate and frame it.
And now it's like, how much should we cut from Medicare?
How much should we cut from are we going to raise the Social Security age?
How much are we going to raise it?
Those are the debates we're having instead of the debate of how much are we going to raise taxes?
How much are we going to have the people who benefit the most from our society contribute back to our society?
Jimmy, why are you so prejudiced against dilettantes?
I'm interested on that this week broadcast.
What did the progressive pundit that was there have to say?
Oh, wait, there wasn't anything else.
There wasn't one.
No, there wasn't one.
The closest we got was Donna Brazil.
Donna Brazil.
And listen to what she says next.
She can't wait to admit that she's a Republican.
Here we go.
I'll let the record show, as Donna points out, that the president came out for a tax cut that is extending the tax cut on.
Well, he's come up with 17 tax cuts, and the Republicans oppose 16 of them.
So he's been walking your walk, but not talking your talk, clearly.
She just admitted.
Did she not just say, hey, he's been a Republican, and you guys won't agree with him?
You guys won't let him do what he says.
Let's do what you guys want to do.
He wants to cut taxes, 17 tax cut proposals he put in place.
And you guys walked away from him.
The truth to that is that it's true.
They're not letting Barack be the Republican he wants to be because of the Tea Party.
You know, they have to they can't be Republican.
They have.
So it's kind of a debate now between the Republicans, which include Obama and the Tea Party.
Is it is it also possible that they just want him to fail so that they can win the next election?
Oh no.
Because most people won't know what the real facts are.
just know that they still don't have a job and that black guy is the reason that's That's the thing that at the core of this has always been that the Democrats in general and Obama specifically have had a horrifically bad communication system and have never been able to defeat the Republicans on that front.
And the perfect example is: he says, I want to close the tax loopholes for corporate chats.
Every single person should have been on board with that.
He knew the Republicans wouldn't go along with it.
You know what?
You know what?
We're up against the clock.
Let me just say, you never hear someone say this about how we have to balance the budget.
Never say, hey, maybe if we cut the three wars, actually, two and a half.
It's two and a half wars starting Aston Kutcher.
And so nobody says, hey, maybe if we get rid of those, we can.
Nobody says, hey, why don't we try to figure out a way to rein in the costs of health care in America and stop paying twice as much as the rest of the world.
So if we could cut our Medicare costs in half and only pay as much for our health care as, say, Canada does, everybody wins.
Why can't we do that?
No one ever says that.
No one ever says, hey, why don't we break the health care monopoly?
Why don't we break up the health insurance?
Why don't we break pharma stranglehole on our Congress?
Nobody says any of those things, and that's where we're going to have to leave.
Kucinich says it, and nobody listens to it.
Does he, you know, even I don't hear him say that.
But guess, you know, I don't know if you know, but Rick John Boehner actually called me the other day.
Here's John Boehner.
Jimmy Dore, it's John Boehner.
Sorry, I don't have much time to chat, but I am a very, very, very busy and powerful man.
Not to brag, but I am Speaker of the friggin' house, third of line for the presidency.
With great power comes great responsibility.
So you can imagine how much I kidding.
I have no power at all.
The Kardashian sisters have more gravitas than I do.
The Tea Party has all the power, and all that tea is given to them an active bladder because they do nothing but piss all over everything I do.
It's making me cry, Jimmy.
And as you know, that is so unlike me.
I've tried to convince the Tea Party that I'm one of them.
But here's the problem: Obama likes me.
He really, really likes me.
He always invites me to play golf, and he's also so nice and half of all when he's around me.
So now there's all these pictures of me standing next to a smiling black man.
And now everyone of the Tea Party thinks Obama's like BFF.
I keep telling them, Mr. President, you may be the skipper, but I'm not your little buddy.
It's gotten to the point where some Republicans actually believe that I'm willing to reach across party lines to achieve a consensus that might make things better for everyday Americans.
I can't have people thinking such terrible things about me.
Look, we Republicans have one simple strategy: keep the economy in the crapper long enough for us to get one of our own elected president in 2012.
But no matter what I do, the Tea Party thinks that I'm behaving like a Democrat.
Well, it's hard for me to not seem like a Democrat when Obama seems so much like a Republican.
On top of everything else, I have to deal with Eric Canter, that backstabbing weasel.
What is my relationship with Canter like?
Well, imagine if Robin was always trying to manipulate his way into becoming Batman.
He desperately wants my job.
It's so obvious.
Eric Cantor is the Eve Harrington of Capitol Hill.
Oh my God.
I just made a reference to All About Eve.
Betty Davis movie.
That is the gayest thing I've ever said.
This is serious, Jimmy.
I better get going.
Going to call up Michelle Botwood's husband and see if he can squeeze me in for a quick de-gaying.
Don't get me wrong.
I've always been 100% hetero.
But when you've been as emasculated by the Tea Party as often as I've been lately, you can never be too sure.
Goodbye, Jimmy.
John Boehner seems really heartbroken by this Tea Party.
You know, I always thought his face was tan because he spent so much time golfing and he gets to, but it's not.
It turns out his face is just red from being bitch lapped by the Tea Party.
Wow.
Who knew?
Who knew?
Oh, it's a good joke, Frank.
I've told that joke three times in two days.
I forget about it.
Okay.
Well, we only have a few minutes left.
I wanted to talk about Barack Obama's press conference last Monday.
And I wanted to remind everybody, I'm in the studio with Frank Conner from CinematicTitanic.com, Paul Gilmartin from TBS's Dinner and a Movie and the Mental Illness Happy Hour podcast.
And from Team Yasamura, it's Robert Yasamura.
I'm Jimmy Dore, and we're sitting here talking about politics and everything that's happening.
And if you missed any part of this show, you can always get a free podcast at iTunes or at JimmyDoorComedy.com.
You go, oh, Paul?
I was just going to interject.
Are you done with the promotion stuff?
Because I just wanted to follow up on something.
No, sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off.
I thought you were done.
I was raising my fingers so that I could interject afterwards and it was misconstrued.
Luckily, the whole discussion about are you done or not are done doesn't take up much time either.
At all.
Okay, I'm done.
Robert, now it's all built up and it's going to suck.
But Robert was Robert was saying that the Democrats can't get their talking points across to the general public.
So maybe they start making YouTube videos where they say their talking point and then a kid hits them in the nuts with a wiffle ball bat.
Hey, Rick Perry is the governor of Texas, right?
And he wants to say, you've got a lot of baggage that people don't know about.
And anyway, he called me last week and he left me a message.
Yeah.
Hey, Jimmy Door, watch Silf.
This is Governor Rick Perry of Texas.
How you doing?
I would like to announce on your show that I'm officially submitting my application to be a new call-in character on the Jimmy Dore show.
What do you say, brother?
I looked at the lineup of yokels you already had calling in.
I thought, hell, I could beat those guys.
Just Josh.
Availed metaphor about me running for president.
So, yeah, I've been working behind the scenes with Carl Rove here in Tay House, strategizing about my campaign and getting all my ducks in a row so I can shoot him.
Look at, hell, I'm the guy who shot a coyote who accosted me while I was jogging one day.
You think Tim Paulani has got the cajon I used to go out of half with a hungry desert dog?
I don't think so.
He couldn't even stand up to that cardboard cutout Mitt Romney.
On the manliness scale, these two guys ain't exactly pango and cash.
To me, they look like a couple of ovaries scrambling for votes.
But all they end up doing is making a bitch baby omelet.
Let's just pretend those are Texas things.
Now, admittedly, I got some image problems I have to overcome.
First off, I made that comment a while back about how Texas should secede from the Union.
Everyone got all hot under the collar.
Now, look, that's just some tongue-in-cheek bracketocio we spew down here for fun.
Okay, now look, rest of the country, you got a choice.
You can either bitch about how horrible we Texans are in our state is, or you can bitch about when we threaten to leave the country.
Choose one.
That ain't even a joke, really.
Second of all, people are trying to compare me to another Texas governor who in recent years became president.
Is it?
I mean, Bush.
And that's crazy.
I don't even sound anything like the guy, first of all.
And I purposely tried to distance myself from his record.
Under Bush's watch as governor, dozens upon dozens of convicted murderers were executed.
But all of those men and women appeared to have actually done it.
And I found that cowardly.
That's why I purposely oversaw the execution of a man whom DNA evidence clearly exonerated, named Cameron Todd Willingham.
Oh, my God.
It takes an executive with true courage and vision to make so bold a decision.
Say what you want about Bush, but I don't think he has the nuts to kill a clearly innocent man.
Rick Perry, bitches.
As much as I will try to distance myself from the Bush comparisons with the general public, I will actively court such comparisons with the Columbia community.
I mean, come on, man.
How easier will your jobs be if you can simply dust off all those old W chestnuts from 2003 and recycle them with Rick Perry?
Hell, I'll even invade Iran to make it easier for y'all.
Come on, you guys love it.
Having a Rube in the White House again.
You'll be back to the glory days of comedy, man.
I won't lay you down, man.
I'm going to tear up Michelle Obama's little spice garden and convert it into a confined wild game pen for canned hunts.
Hope the French ambassador likes antelope steaks.
You guys know you want it so bad.
Making fun of a southerner on the campaign trail.
I'll even juice it up for you.
Oh, hell, I'm giving a speech in New York City.
Look at all these big old skyscrippers.
Where's that ding-dang ghostbuster building at?
You.
Oh, like shooting fish in a barrel.
Or as I call it, fishing.
Look, Shibador, you scratch my back.
I'll scratch yours.
Jon Stewart's on board.
Give me a call.
Okay, that is, of course, Governor Rick Perry from Texas, the voice of Mike McRae.
Mike McRae does all the voices on the show.
He's doing a great job, isn't he?
He's genius.
He's got a new baby, huh?
All right, so that is our show.
We're up against the clock.
I want to thank that show flew by today, didn't it, fellas?
Even if it didn't, just say it's.
It's just me or you guys get hard when you get up against the clock.
I want to thank my producer, Ali Lexa, Stephanie Zamorano, my guests, Robert Yasimura, Paul Gilmartin, Frank Conniff, the voice of Mike McRae, and all the people who helped write the show.
Steve Rosenfield, Robert Yasimura, Frank Conniff, Mike McRae, Steph Zamorano.
A lot of people put this show together.
We appreciate all of them.
And again, thanks, everybody, over at the Young Turks.
And thanks to Jay over at, I forgot to say this last week at his 500th episode of Best of the Left.
If you haven't heard that podcast, it's a great show.
Jay Tomlinson over at Best of the Left.
Congratulations.
And I'll see you tonight at Flappers in Burbank, right?
Flappers Comedy, 102 East Magnolia, 8 o'clock.
Everyone, Greg Proops, Todd Glass, you and I will be there.
You can go to JimmyDoorComedy.com for a link.
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