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Sept. 18, 2010 - Jimmy Dore Show
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It's the Jimmy Dore show.
The show for...
...the kind of people that are...
It's the show that makes Anderson Cooper say.
It's hard to talk on your T-Vagon.
So sit back or sit up or keep driving.
Because it's the Jimmy Dore show.
And now, here's a guy who sounds a lot like me.
It's Jimmy Door.
Hi, everybody.
Welcome to the Jimmy Door Show.
We've got a jam-packed show coming up for you.
And before I let you know who's in the studio, let me let you know what's coming up on today's show.
And why do I do that?
Because people love to know what's coming up.
Well, Moron's going to call in today.
He's got a lot on his mind.
10 minutes of moron today.
Plus, we're going to talk about the Koran burning or the burning that didn't happen.
And we're going to talk about conjugating new words.
Of course, we care.
It would be tragical.
Yes, it would be tragical.
It would be tragical.
So we're going to talk about him.
And then, guess what?
There was an O'Donnell who won in the New Hampshire Delaware primary.
A teabagger won.
O'Donnell, Christine O'Donnell.
And I just want to know, Carl Rove gave his endorsement.
I've got to tell you, I wasn't frankly impressed as her abilities as a candidate.
And again, these serious questions about how does she make her living?
Why did she mislead voters about her college education?
How come it took her nearly two decades to pay her college bills so she could get her college degree?
How did she make a living?
Why did she sue a well-known and well-Carl, she's the Republican nominee for Senate.
Oh, let me finish.
So we're going to talk about that coming up.
We'll talk about that crazy rant for the guy running for treasurer in Kansas.
That's a fun thing.
But right now, Social Security was on my mind when I was watching MSNBC last week.
The Social Security So there's been an awful lot of misinformation going around right now.
There's a deficit commission that appointed by Barack Obama to study the deficit problem.
But it seems like the only thing they can come up with, the only thing the Deficit Commission can come up with, is ways to cut Social Security.
Social Security, that's right.
You know, the program that's the most popular and most successful social program in the history of the world.
In fact, Social Security has worked so well, not one person has ever missed a check from Social Security.
And it's solvent.
Did you hear me?
Solvent until 2037.
Completely solvent until 2037.
And then, if we don't do anything to fix it, in about 30 years, it will start paying out only 75% of the benefits.
But it will be able to do that for 80 years in a row.
So my point is there is no emergency for Social Security, but you would never know that when you listen to the news, especially when I turned on MSNBC the other day.
There was a woman named Ashley Carlson being interviewed.
She's the director of the Older Women's League, which, you know, they got to do something about that name.
Older Women's League.
Why don't you just go, hey, we're the Old Ladies Association.
It's just, you got to try something different.
Anyway, Ashley Carlson, director of the Older Women's League, she was sticking up for Social Security and debating it with Lawrence O'Donnell.
Now, who would have thought that Christine O'Donnell would be the second most dangerous O'Donnell in the news this week?
Sure, she's a right-wing nutjob who pays her rent with campaign contributions and thinks masturbation is adultery, but at least she's upfront about her agenda, as opposed to Lawrence O'Donnell, an MSNBC's newest progressive opinion show host.
How progressive is he?
Well, let's just take a listen at some of what he had to say about Social Security.
Workers your age who are contributing to Social Security every day, we concurrently tell you that when your time comes to collect, the money will not be there.
Whoops.
Did I just play a clip of Rand Paul by accident?
No.
No, I didn't.
That's Lawrence O'Donnell, a liberal who should know better.
It's bad enough he's lying about Social Security not being there.
Does he have to take so much joy in it, too?
It's like he's happy about it, condescending and wrong.
It's like a guy saying, hey, maybe you didn't get the memo, but two plus two is five.
Okay, you're welcome.
Now, there are probably people out there who are like that, but you wouldn't give them a TV show.
But Lawrence O'Donnell doesn't stop there.
Once you get a taste of the smugly delivered misinformation, it's hard to stop.
When you say that it will run out of money in 30 years, that's actually not factual.
It'll never run out of money.
It'll always collect money, but it'll only be able to pay you 75% of the benefits that they project for you to receive.
Now, that is some good old-fashioned backpedaling.
From the money won't be there to 75% of the money will be there, all in the space of one cable news segment.
But Lawrence isn't done yet.
It'll always be able to pay 75, 60 cents on the dollar because it's always going to be collecting something.
Well, hold on, Lawrence.
Is it 75 or is it 60?
I mean, that's kind of a big difference.
Am I right?
If someone offered you $75 or $60, which would you take?
He's so clearly pulling 60 cents out of thin air because it sounds scarier than 75 cents.
Oh, yeah, it'll always be able to pay you 75 cents on the dollar or 60 cents or 40 cents or 10 cents on the dollar or whatever's scarier.
Same difference.
You know what's really appalling is when people like Lawrence O'Donnell pretend that Social Security is in crisis.
This is not a crisis.
This is a situation where adjustments need to be made to a popular and functional program so that it doesn't run into trouble 27 years from now.
Now, a crisis, a crisis, is a dysfunctional financial sector that rewards ultra-rich Wall Street gangsters while putting regular people out of the homes they were led to believe they could afford.
Those families are homeless today.
A crisis is a busted rig gushing oil into the Gulf of Mexico for months before anyone figured out how to stop it.
That region is dying economically and ecologically today.
A crisis is a pointless and costly war in Afghanistan where the bodies are piling up today.
Not in 27 years, Lawrence, but today.
That would be a crisis.
But maybe the worst crisis of all, is that Our only hope to hear the truth about any of these real crises rests in the hands of a guy like Lawrence O'Donnell.
Snap.
Okay, okay, and that was another great piece done by me and written by Ben Zelavansky, who's not in here today.
I don't know where Ben is, but let me tell you who's here today.
We got Paul Gilmartin.
How are you, Ben?
Hello.
Jim Earl is here with us.
Yeah, how are you doing?
I like the fact that you have the Barney Miller theme underneath.
And we like to always start the show with a 70s reference.
And Robert Yasamura is here too.
Hi, Robert.
How are you?
I want to say that the Older Women's League is the best website ever.
If you like that.
You know what?
I did happen to get a group.
I don't want to say anything, but I did get caught when I was engaged to, I had there was a tape of over 40 porn.
It was women over 40, and she found it.
She's like, are you watching this?
I like the way you say there was a tape.
Well, I guess you don't take ownership of it.
I think maybe a friend lent it to me, and she's like, what is this?
Did you watch this?
I'm like, not twice.
Come on, honey.
I'm not attracted to women your age.
That's not mine.
Does anybody get their Social Security statement and breathe a sigh of relief?
Ah, I'm going to be taken care of.
You know, when I look at my Social Security statement, I look at it and I think if this is what I'm going to be living on, the question is, generic or premium cat food.
Yeah.
Well, that's that.
Well, that used to be the case before Medicare, actually.
So they had Social Security, and then there was old people still lived in poverty at a rate of 33%, and that was because they didn't have medical care.
They couldn't afford it when they got it.
And then when they passed that, we dropped the old people, the old people's organization.
We dropped their poverty rate, went from 33% down to 11% just with the passage of Medicare.
So I think Social Security, now nobody expects that to be their full retirement anymore, but certainly people without it would be screwed, right?
There's a lot of people who do need it.
What is the average benefit?
Does anybody even know?
Robert, you would know something like that.
It's not, I think it's in the range of like $1,000 a month or something.
It's not enough to live on per se if you're not.
I should know that because I've been cashing my dead grandmother.
That's the only way to keep it solvent.
That's the way to do it.
That's why I have QuickLime in my house just waiting for my dad to kick it.
And at the moment he does, man, I am committing fraud at the highest level.
Just keep practicing his signature.
Quick Lime.
Quicklime.
Oh, is that like from When You Buried a Dead Body?
Yeah, it keeps the smallest.
Oh, that's from like the good.
I'm not, I got the Lyme.
Okay, I didn't know that.
So Lawrence O'Donnell, look, let's get back to this.
The weird thing was that Lawrence O'Donnell is usually right about stuff.
Like, I like Lawrence O'Donnell normally, even though he predicted the health care bill wouldn't pass because he was part of the losing health care battle under Bill Clinton.
And so he was talking with Ezra Klein.
Ezra Klein, who's a lefty writer, and he's, I think he writes for The Nation.
I could be wrong.
And anyway, so he was talking to Ezra Klein, and there was even more misinformation.
You know, when they talk about retirement age, FDR picked 65 as the compromise number.
When he picked that number, the life expectancy for male workers in the United States was 58.
So, you know, this program was never intended to be paying people for decades and decades.
It does that now.
It does it pretty effectively.
But to do it long term, someone is going to have to do something serious about adjusting it.
You know, it's just his whole tone.
Am I the only one picking up on Lawrence O'Donnell's whole tone of his smug, like, hey, this thing is really screwed up, and I know you lefties don't want to admit it, but okay, sir, sure, it's working perfectly right now, and it has since it was conceived, and it's going to work perfectly for 30 more years.
But I'm going to tell you something, there's going to come a day when it's not going to work so perfect anymore, and you guys better worry about it now.
See, I disagree.
I don't think that's what he's reacting to.
I think what he's reacting to is that a lot of people don't want to deal with the issue of Social Security going bankrupt.
And 30 years from now is that's pretty fast, actually.
Yeah, but it's 25 cents on the dollar that is going to be.
Who gives a crap?
I mean, we went to the moon.
We have two illegal wars that we're spending going into debt over.
Why don't you just shift some of that money over to Social Security so my dead grandmother can keep funding my pornography?
Look, if the pharmaceutical company and big agriculture keep pumping chemicals and antibiotics into our food at the rate they are, some death spore is going to spawn and wipe out three-quarters of us, and Social Security will be fine.
That's exactly what I was thinking, Paul.
You got to stay positive in 2010.
That's what I say.
Stay positive in 2010.
And that is the way to look at it.
That is rose-colored glasses, some people would say, that you're putting on right there.
But I would say that's more of a realist view.
Thank you.
I like to bring a ray of sunshine wherever I can.
Death spore.
I like that.
That's actually a Dennis Miller.
Death Spore.
I channeled Dennis Miller there for a second.
No, he didn't invent that word, did he?
Yeah, he used to have a bit about the AIDS virus when the day they find a cure for AIDS.
If you can't get laid that day, hang it up.
I think his punchline was something like, I think I might even treat myself to a little sodomy that day and thumb my nose at the deposed death spore.
You know, it's against the rules to laugh at Dennis Miller on this show.
I know.
I don't know.
He used to be funny.
He's hilarious.
He still can be funny.
It's not funny when you're Goliath making fun of David.
That's just not funny when you go home and kick a puppy.
And that's what he's doing.
You're supposed to speak truth to power, not speak lies for power.
He's always been kind of an asshole.
I mean, personally.
He's always a disagreeable fuck.
I only met him a few times, and he was always pleasant to me.
I don't know him.
Maybe he considers you a peer.
He probably, you know, people he doesn't consider peers.
Oh, really?
That's the way it is with most people in show business, isn't it?
Is that why Feldman doesn't like him anyway?
No, I'm kidding.
So here's what Ezra, I don't know how we got.
Oh, because you were telling us the death score joke.
I was like, wow, we got really sidetracked from this Lawrence O'Donnell-Ezra.
So here's what he said about the...
But his tone, it's not like he's saying, hey, I agree.
This is a great program.
This thing works.
I like how you turn him into a Gambino family member.
I'm Lawrence O'Donnell.
Yeah, so.
Suck it.
Yeah.
I'm exaggerating to try to make a point.
But here's what Ezra Klein says to his point about 58 and 65.
Someone is going to have to do something serious about adjusting it.
But one thing on that is that of workers who did get to 65, they did live a fairly long time.
And most of the gains we've seen since most of the gains we've seen since then have come in the upper half, right?
So richer workers, affluent workers, Workers who don't work menial jobs in most cases, they do live a lot longer.
Workers in the bottom half of the income distribution, they've gained a couple years, many, many, many fewer, which is why I'm a little bit skeptical of the retirement age side of this.
I'd be much more inclined towards something like means testing, towards a payroll tax cap change, than I would be towards raising the retirement age across the board.
Folks who don't have sort of jobs like you and I are like a lot of the folks doing this, making these arguments, I'm a little bit more worried about them.
If I heard all these sort of affluent people saying, you know, you should raise the tax cap on my earnings, that's one thing.
When they're all saying you should make people who don't want to retire, who want to retire early retire later, I'm a little bit more skeptical about it.
It seems like it's offloading pain onto people who have less of a voice in this conversation.
That's a good point.
I would say a great point.
I mean, and that's the point that Lawrence O'Donnell is missing.
You know, it's like he, it's like he brings up the wrong side of every point.
You know what I mean?
It's like, hey, it's never, okay, again, I'm doing that voice.
I know.
Now I'm all self-care.
But that is how he sounds in my head when he's talking right now.
And so I think he debunked that.
It's like, you want to make people raise their retirement age?
Hey, why don't we just, you know, if they got rid of the Bush, if they let the Bush tax cuts expire, they would be able to make up the deficit that's projected to start in Social Security in 30 years.
That would take care of it for another 80 years.
All you had to do was let those tax cuts expire, take that money and put it into Social Security.
In 30 years, not even, not tomorrow, not next year.
We don't make anything really anymore in this country other than porn and meth and bad reality celebrities.
So why don't we actually institute a retirement age at which you have to stop buying Chinese products and buy American.
That would help our economy.
Yeah, I think we'd have to keep lowering that age, right?
I think right now we could start it at six and then start moving it down.
I take issue with what you just said.
I think we're very good at making cancer balls.
Just balls of cancer.
And we can export them to other countries and for some lab work and everything else.
You know what?
I had a little twinge of pride when you said cancer balls.
I got to be honest.
What?
Did you hear a little bit of Battlehammer of the Republic start to cue up?
I think of beautiful tar-laden Gulf Coast, and I think about, yeah, we're getting it done down there.
Did you see all the fish that showed up dead for no reason?
For no reason.
They go, oh, but nobody knows why.
I think I have an idea.
I think I have an idea.
All right, listen, we have to shift.
This has been a great, fascinating discussion about Social Security.
I hope you guys enjoyed it.
But we have to move on, and let's talk about the big Tea Party victories.
Now, Christine O'Donnell won in Delaware, and Karl Rove.
God bless.
I'm going to play some of Karl Rove's endorsing speech.
Why does the conservatives think tank?
It does conservatives little good to support candidates who, at the end of the day, while they may be conservative in their public statements, do not evince the characteristics of rectitude and truthfulness and sincerity and character that the voters are looking for.
First of all, that was Karl Rove.
He doesn't like her because she doesn't have the rectitude and sincerity and honesty that you need in a Republican candidate.
And a Republican candidate.
That's the guy.
Bush's brain just said that.
Oh, my God.
It gets better.
He keeps going.
When was the kettle put on before it actually or it turned black?
And we'll see how she can answer these questions.
She sure as heck didn't answer them thus far in the campaign.
And now in the general election, she will be asked about it.
I interviewed her, and I felt her explanations were far more plausible than what she was.
Did you ask her?
Did you ask her about the people who are following her home to her headquarters and how she's checked each night in the bushes?
Did you ask her?
I mean, there are just a lot of nutty things she's been saying that just simply don't add up to it.
Sounds like you don't support her, but I will tell you, I think.
I'm for the Republican, but I got to tell you, we were looking at eight to nine seats in the Senate.
We're now looking at seven to eight, in my opinion.
This is not a race we're going to be able to win.
She attacked him by saying that he'd had a homosexual relationship with a young age with not a bit of evidence to prove it.
And she made a lot of decisions.
She said in that interview that she was not making that accusation.
Well, I heard the very interview.
That was the second interview.
She'd already previously spread the rumor.
I mean, come on.
Was he your first Karl Rove?
Was he the first guy that you ever fantasized about punching their neck fat?
Or Roger Ailes?
No, it was Henry Hyde.
Henry Hyde, yeah, with the Hyde Amendment.
He was the first guy I ever thought about doing that, too.
Yeah.
That is Karl Rove, the chief Republican strategist, completely shatting all over the.
Go ahead.
I think there's some personal history.
Oh, yes.
What's going on between them?
Because he would never say that about anybody that he believed that he wanted to win.
Right.
You know, that he didn't have something against.
Well, you know, when she was giving her acceptance speech, Christine O'Donnell, some guy grabbed the microphone, and he told a little story about when Karl Rove came up to meet with the Tea Partiers in Delaware last year in 2009.
And so here's the little story about a year ago, Karl Rove came to Delaware for a Republican thing, and he asked for a private meeting with the Tea Party groups, the grassroot groups, and we went and sat down with him.
And he tried to convince us how we needed to get behind the party and how we needed to get behind a candidate that was electable.
He said, what I really want to do is tell you folks how to work with the candidate and how to get things done.
And I said, sir, with all due respect, no one is going to tell us how to take care of business.
Okay, so I think we figured out why Karl Rove is.
See, that's the whole thing.
See, this is a very rare occurrence.
We never get to see conservatives, people in the Republican Party for sure, fighting.
They always fall in line.
They always fall in lockstep.
And they get to see Democrats and liberals always fighting, constantly disagreeing publicly, can never get their act together.
And that's why they do so well.
They have the wrong message, but they still win a lot of elections because they all come at you with one message.
And that's why Karl Rove is shatting, as I like to say, all over Christine O'Donnell, because they gave him the finger.
They told him, hey, go scratch, buddy.
We're the real deal.
We don't need you.
And he's like, well, I'm going to, he wants them to eat it so hard.
You're telling me Karl Rove is vindictive?
I have never felt more conflicted in my life about something.
I know, right?
Like, because part of me is like, good for you for telling off Karl Rove.
Wait a second, you guys are all lunatics.
And the other thing is, by the way, how smart is it to go up to Karl Rove?
The most successful political strategist in the history of anything, the guy got someone who is mentally deficient elected twice to the presidency.
How much balls does it take to tell this guy, go screw yourself?
We don't want to win.
We want to be crazy on our own.
Yeah.
Well, I don't know how much ball, it certainly takes stupid.
And they're certainly stupid.
But you know what?
I wouldn't doubt if Christine O'Donnell wins because people are so, you know, Barack Obama has not gotten it done.
The Democrats have not gotten it done.
And so when you go, if you're going into the voting booth right now and you're an undecided, put it that way, you're not a hardcore Democrat or a hardcore Republican.
You go in there and you're an independent, you think in your head and you're like, you know what?
Screw these guys.
Screw them.
I'm voting for the new guy.
That's how it happens.
I mean, you know, I'm not.
You know, let me say that because I was just back in Massachusetts and there are a bunch of congressmen like running and they are running so far to the right.
Like they're talking about illegal immigration.
And by the way, in Massachusetts, they get three illegal Portuguese immigrants a year.
I don't know why they're talking about illegal immigrants.
But have you seen the damage they've done?
Oh my God, the kale soup is everywhere.
But let me, so they're running to the right, and all of them are saying, we got to tell these Washington guys what's what.
And they're all painting themselves as outsiders.
And I understand, but I just want to say, like, if your plumber screws up, if you get a bad plumber, is your next thought, next time I'm going to get an outsider, I'm going to get a banker.
Really?
I see.
You know, it's not a perfect analogy, but it's funny enough to include.
So let's listen.
And it's, I want to just so we can enjoy more of this because you don't get to see them disagree with each other.
Here's Rush Limbaugh when he comes.
Now he comes out after Karl Rove a little bit.
I've never heard Carl so animated against a Democrat as he was against Christine O'Donnell last night.
Talking about Christine O'Donnell's baggage?
Where is this criticism of Democrats?
Where has it been?
If 51 seats was really the objective, if getting that majority is really that important, then let's go balls to the wall for Christine O'Donnell.
Few eight rooms.
So that's Rush Limbaugh going a little nuts.
I always picture Rush Limbaugh on Judgment Day, standing in front of God, and there's just this awkward silence, and Rush Limbaugh is just smoking a cigar, and then just at one point realizes maybe I should put the cigar out.
This looks kind of arrogant.
Meanwhile, he's got a huge heart on.
That is pain-free.
Seven occupants here.
He has a pain-free boner.
Can I just ask a favor of America that we stop electing people with southern accents?
You know, everybody with a southern accent who's been elected has really done damage to this country.
Isn't that what Reconstruction was about?
That we just kind of cordoned off these people from running the country for a few years, and then we can get back to normal.
You know, I say, you know, if everybody talks about Lincoln being one of the great, I say he should have let it go.
They go, you don't think he should have ended slave.
No, no, you could end slavery in the North, and then all the slaves who wanted to come North could, but you just let go of the South.
Go, just go.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
That's what I just, and then you know what?
We get to have two experiments.
You get to have your backwards, backward, ridiculous country, and then we get to have a good country.
We get to have a country with health care and interstate highways.
And we get to have a country with schools and an education system.
And then you can have whatever the hell you guys have.
Isn't that basically what Mexico is?
What the South would look like if it had gotten its way?
It's an oligarchy.
There's no middle class.
It's slave labor, and it's run by 100 people that control all the wealth.
That's why, ultimately, to me, that's what Dick Cheney's wet dream was.
Well, that's what these, you know, a lot of people mistake the capital corporatism for capitalism.
And that's what's happening today.
They think, oh, if you're against corporatism, then somehow you're not a capitalist.
No, I'm a capitalist, but corporate, the way corporatism, you know, the country's owned by six industries.
Yeah.
And once an industry gets power, it doesn't want a free market anymore.
It wants leverage in the market.
Yes, exactly.
That's exactly.
That is not capitalism.
That's why we have antitrust laws.
Remember when we used to have antitrust laws?
Where have they been?
Right.
The conglomeration of the media in the last 20 years has done more damage to our country than al-Qaeda could ever hope to.
And that's why I say Christine O'Donnell has a real shot, just because of this.
I mean, look how you're upset about the status quo.
When you're upset at the status quo, you vote for the new guy.
And I'm telling you, she's the new guy, and she's going to do much better than people.
I don't care how much dirt they dig up on her.
A, she's cute.
And B, she sounds nice on television.
And she's a woman, so it's going to be hard for them to beat up on her.
People start to feel sorry for her.
I think they don't care anymore.
People of voters don't give a crap anymore about what somebody does.
They really don't.
They don't.
And she's got a possible lesbian past, which always adds a nice little mice.
You know, maybe she's going to break into a 69 on the floor.
They care about that.
You know what?
I mean, what the establishment is afraid of is that she will get elected, and she will single-handedly do immense damage to the Republicans in the next election cycle, like her and who's the chick from Nevada.
Oh, okay.
Sharon Angle.
You know, that there are a bunch of these lunatics running around that could sort of single-handedly sink the party in the next election cycle.
That's what they're afraid of.
They want, I mean, the best that they can hope for is to get a bunch of Republican stalwarts in there who do nothing except block Obama's legislation.
Well, well, I guess that'll be a real change.
That is their secret goal, is to just protect the hole in the ship and make sure it stays open.
Yes, and that word will be right back after a break.
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Thank you.
Hey, everybody, and welcome back to the Jimmy Door Show.
We're going to play a little bit more of Kyle Rove endorsing Christine Campbell for his Senate.
We're going to play a little bit more of that.
Also, I want to remind people, all of our listeners up in the San Francisco area, that the Jimmy Doerr show is coming to the Punchline Comedy Club October 7th, 8th, and 9th, October 7th, 8th, and 9th.
You can come see me at the Punchline Comedy Club in San Francisco.
Is it just you?
There are going to be other people on the show.
I'm not sure exactly.
My nose is already bent out of shape at this point.
Would you like to come up and tell us?
Yes.
He's all right.
Come up.
And so we'll be at the punchline in San Francisco, October 7th, 8th, and 9th.
And right now, let's get ready for our friend Jim Hightower.
He's back.
And today, Jim is pointing out a gross insult to unemployed Americans.
At last, Obama is getting serious about America's jobs crisis, proposing a $50 billion effort to put Americans to work repairing our national infrastructure.
Of course, congressional Republicans have responded, as they always do, petulantly shouting no and plopping their fat butts down in the middle of the legislative path to block progress.
But Obama could take one symbolic step on his own that would create jobs for about a dozen American workers.
It involves the construction of a memorial and statue of Martin Luther King Jr. on our National Mall.
After all, King's historic 1963 March on Washington was about jobs and poverty.
So why not have some of our highly skilled bricklayers and stonemasons who are now unemployed build this monument in honor of King's legacy?
Seems sensible, but guess what?
The quasi-governmental foundation overseeing the King Memorial Project doesn't seem to have much sense.
It is importing 8 to 12 workers from, believe it or not, China to do this job.
Why don't they just poke every out-of-work American in the eye with a sharp stick?
As the Bricklayers Union said in exasperation, this is wrong, wrong, wrong.
Well, sniffed a spokeswoman for the foundation.
Only the centerpiece of the memorial is outsourced to Chinese craft workers, so stop your griping.
Ironically, that centerpiece is named the Stone of Hope.
But apparently, no one at the foundation has any grasp of irony.
So they are proceeding to obtain work visas to bring the Chinese into our nation's capital and construct King's Monument.
Presumably, America's vast pool of jobless workers will be allowed to watch them.
This is Jim Hightower saying, to join the bricklayers' protest of this insult, call the Martin Luther King Memorial Foundation and tell them to put Americans back to work.
202-737-5420.
That was Jim Hightower.
Thanks, Jim.
I appreciate you always bringing us the most depressing news in a cheerful voice.
Well, you know, it is refreshing to hear a liberal voice in a southern accent.
I have to say.
Yes, it is.
Jim Hightower from Texas, right?
Progressive voice, I should say.
There you go, progressive.
No, you know what?
Because Jim Hightower's thing isn't left or right.
It's top-down.
It's us against them.
And we're all in this together.
You know what?
Carl Rove actually called me.
Ali has betrayed.
What?
Yeah, he's left me sad.
Hey, Jimmy, Carl Rove here.
Folks on my team are really, really letting me have it ever since I ripped into that teabagger Christine O'Donnell on Hannity the other night.
So I figured I'd reach out to some of you bidlogged lovers on the left and see how this stuff goes over with you.
I mean, look, all I'm trying to say is there are a lot of questions that this O'Donnell gal is going to have to answer at the general election.
She says people are following her home at night.
She accused her opponent of having a homosexual relationship without a bit of evidence to prove it.
She had a problem for five years with paying her income taxes.
Her house was foreclosed on.
It took her 16 years to settle her college debt and get her diploma while she went around claiming she was a college graduate.
I mean, the voters of Delaware are going to want these questions answered.
You know, I'm not asking for me.
I'm just thinking about those Delaware voters.
She's going to have to answer to them when it comes to those rumors about how she followed Van Halen on tour for a few years, the mid-80s, and was heard to refer to herself as Mrs. Hagar.
I mean, I think a lot of voters in Delaware are going to want more than she's offering to them right now.
So then we'll see how it goes.
All right, call me back if you get a chance.
Okay, that was, I still have a machine, by the way.
Yeah, I still use the answering machine.
He called me back.
Hey, you want to hear another one?
I don't want to play.
I don't want to spend all day doing this, but.
Hey, Jimmy, Carl Rove again.
You know, I was just thinking about Rand Paul, another one of those teabag people.
You know, I got to say, I think Kentucky voters are going to have a lot of questions about him, too, in the general election.
You know, they're going to want to know why he claimed to be a board-certified eye doctor when he wasn't one, and why he opposes abortion but supports the boarding after pill, and why he thinks campaign finance reform is dangerous, and how come he wants to revoke the 14th Amendment, and why he thinks it's okay for the states to decide for themselves about gay marriage, but not about gun control, and why he thinks the answer to illegal immigration is to electrify the fence along the Mexican border.
I mean, you know, the voters are going to have a lot of questions for him to answer.
That's all I'm saying.
And when it comes time for him to address the controversy over whether he did or did not kidnap a hitchhiker and force her to live in an underground bugger dressed up like the late Lucille Ball, I mean, you know, I just hope he's got an answer for the voters of Kentucky.
That's all I'm saying.
You know, all right, I'm headed out to lunch, but I'll be back in the office this afternoon.
You give me a jiggle if you feel like it.
Wow.
Wow.
Kyle Rove, I got to tell you, I think he's hurting the Republicans now more than helping.
I really do.
He's just got questions.
He's just, you know, he cares about the voters.
You know what?
He actually left me another message.
Jimmy, Carl, again.
Hey, you know, if I didn't mention it before, I'm a big fan of the show.
You know who else I was thinking about was that Sharon Angle, you know, another one of those Tea Party types who went and won the primary.
Now she's got to worry about that general election.
You know, it's one thing to win the primary, but in the general, voters in Nevada are going to be curious about why she wants to abolish the Department of Education and why she called the United Nations, quote, the umpire on fraudulent science such as global warming, end quote.
And how come she said single-income households are the best way to raise a family and why she pushed a phony story about abortion being linked to breast cancer and why she wants to get rid of Social Security and fluoride in the drinking water and what she was doing defending BP in the Gulf oil spill.
You know, I mean, Nevada voters are going to have some legitimate questions about whether she did in fact appear at any Martian pornography.
Not to mention a remark that NASCAR would always, in her mind, be a second-tier sport.
You know, these are just the kind of questions you'd have to answer in a general election.
All righty, I got to go pick up Andrew from Karate, but you want to hijack.
He's got a lot to get off his mind.
Wow.
Well, I've got to tell you, that Karl Rove, he does not seem...
You're missing all these phone calls.
You know, I'm out going out to the corner bakery trying to get some sun.
Yeah.
I think I have a nice outside cafe there.
Yeah.
I could sit there and yell at the skateboarder kids.
And it's fun for an old guy.
Carl Rove, thanks for calling in, Carl.
I mean, I have to call.
You know what?
I think he called me one more time.
Hey, Jimmy, it's the Rover again.
I tell you, that's Joe Miller up in Alaska.
I don't know.
I just think the voters are going to want to know whether or not he actually ate that baby.
That's all I said.
I got to go hit me up later on myself.
Okay, Carl.
Carl really has been losing his shiot over this Christine Campbell, don't you think?
Well, Christine Campbell actually, she responded to him on the Good Morning of America.
Good morning of America.
Everything that he's saying is unfactual.
First of all, I love that the cute, sassy, new Republican type chick.
They invent words.
You refudiate.
It's unfactual.
Who's that guy?
Norman Crosby.
Like, who's running for Senator?
Norm Crosby?
Last time I saw Storm Crosby, by the way, he got a standing ovulation.
Shame, because he's the same so-called political guru that predicted I wasn't going to win.
And we won, and we won big.
So I think, again, you know, he's eating some humble pie, and He's just trying to restore his reputation.
I'm just waiting for her to say, and the Iraq and such.
Iraq and such.
And she can, I want her to say she can see Iceland from her house.
That's what I'm waiting for.
Kyle Rove responded to her.
I think the questions about why she had a problem for five years with paying her federal income taxes, why her house was foreclosed on and put up for a share of sale while it took 16 years for her to settle her college debt and get her diploma after she went around for years claiming she was a college graduate.
These and other troubling sort of personal background things, she thinks that she has explained them.
I think she's got to, I think a lot of voters in Delaware are going to want more than she's offering to them right now.
And we'll see.
I mean, 59 days from now, we'll see if these issues matter or not.
And if she wins, more power to her.
She's right on the issues.
But I think the voters of Delaware are not going to just want to know, are you right on the issues?
But do you have the character and record and background that gives me confidence you're the right person for the job?
You think she's not electable?
Well, look, that's going to be proven.
And what I said last night was she's got to answer these troubling questions.
It's not enough.
She said, look, I'm puzzled as to why the IRS put a lien on me.
Well, you don't have an IRS lien put on for your taxes that you fail to pay in 2005, five years later, unless you haven't paid your taxes.
You know, she said it was a technical mistake by the bank why her house was the subject of a foreclosure lawsuit that she lost, and her house was put up for sale at a sheriff's sale.
And just before the sheriff's sale, she sold the house on which she owed $90 some odd thousand dollars.
She sold it to $135,000 to her boyfriend, who was also her campaign advisor.
I mean, people are going to want to know more about these.
What does she do?
Why did she have only $5,800 in living expenses?
Why did she claim to be a graduate of Farley Dickinson in the mid-90s since the mid-90s when it turns out she just got her degree because she had unpaid college bills that they'd had to sue her over?
His veins, there's no blood.
It's just vindictiveness.
That's just.
Can I just say this is what it feels like to own the pit bull and not be bitten by the pit bull?
You know what I mean?
Like, if we had had Karl Rove, this is what it would have felt like.
Oh, right.
Because that guy is a talking points machine.
Oh, he just, I mean, boom.
He's fantastic.
It makes me laugh.
I'm laughing.
It's so funny because he's talking in this very calm tone, but the length and number of facts is just cuckoo.
Cuckoo.
Yes.
Cuckoo.
And he's, it's not.
I'm just saying.
And he pulls out another one.
Like every two seconds, it's like, you got another one.
He sold his house to 130, and the sheriff had to come.
And how do you know all this stuff about her?
I just want to know why she leaves the reading light on for two hours after she leaves the living room.
She's always there between 10 and 12, but you know, why is she going to the kitchen every morning at 1.30 a day?
I want to know what those dirty thoughts are she's having on her way to work that we know about those.
Like, how does Kyle Rove know this stuff?
Anyway, so that's Karl Roe.
That is amazing.
It is one vindictive night.
If we had had that guy in the Democratic Party, George W. Bush would have gone to an offshore island and shot himself.
Yeah, well, we probably could have got Al Gore elected.
That's probably what happened.
And that's the sad thing about the liberals is when you stand for peace and progressiveness and all that stuff, you're not willing usually to fight the fight that the right wing is.
And that's why they often win is because their ends justify their means, where I think being a liberal, you're not willing to get in the trench.
Not only get in the trench, he clearly had like black ops bag men following this woman around, digging up everything.
I mean, this is impressive.
And then he points the finger at her that she's crazy because she thinks there's people following her in her bushes.
Go ahead.
He's just reading crooksandliars.com.
That's all he's doing.
He left out the fact that she says she went to ROTC training and never showed up and that kind of stuff.
Really?
She did that too?
No, I'm just thinking that's George Bush's.
That's true.
I know, yeah.
Well, you know why?
You're trying to figure out why the Republicans are able to win.
And it's because this is to them bipartisan.
You know what they think bipartisanship is.
To us, bipartisanship is them being forced to agree with us after we have politically cleaned their clocks and beaten them.
And that's exactly what's happening.
The Democrats can't even pass a middle-class tax cut because they've somehow...
The GOP members of Congress have managed to confuse the issue so much that middle-class Americans have been deceived into believing they get burned unless the upper classes get to hoard more of their treasure.
We have politically cleaned their clocks and beaten them.
That's exactly what's happened.
You know what I mean?
It's like they have a stronger communication hold with the Democratic's base than the Democrats.
Because they are geniuses at the dark art of marketing.
Marketing, there is no more powerful, dark art than marketing, and they have mastered it.
And it's like, well, and you're like, so Barack Obama and Rahm Emanuel, and all those, they allowed themselves to get out politicked constantly.
Constantly.
The right wing is based in dogma, and dogma is religion.
And they are super religious people who believe in one thing, and they follow their leaders religiously, and they don't question it.
They don't question anything they say.
And that's how they get their followers.
Our side, if you want to call it that, argue with each other.
We have some skepticism.
I think that's an excellent point.
The left is kind of founded on questioning authority and where is the truth, whereas the right is kind of founded on keeping tradition alive and not questioning authority and religion.
And religion.
But that's not entirely true.
How dare you, Paul Gilmartin?
I mean, the modern Republican Party is really an invention of the late 60s and just basically them getting in a room together and going, because they hadn't had the Senate in the Congress forever, and they basically got in a room and said, you know what, it's time to start winning.
It's not enough to be right.
We need to start winning at all costs.
And that's basically what has happened since.
Well, they have a position that is untenable for most Americans, right?
So what they want to do politically, the right wing, most Americans don't agree with.
Because when you ask Americans, when they've done polling and they ask them issue by issue by issue, and they always come up liberal, right?
Right.
And so they have convinced people that they're not liberal, because they've demonized liberalism.
And so now people think they're conservative, even though they're not, even though their thoughts are liberal.
They've made politics aesthetic.
They've made politics, like being a liberal is a weak position.
It is an unmanly position.
They've made politics aesthetic instead of issues.
But there's a lot of truth.
But the liberals are weak.
I mean, the Applejacks are healthy, and they have a lot of fiber.
I mean, have you seen that commercial?
Yes.
That is why the Republicans are in power.
Somebody has a shriveled raisin of a soul that is willing to say, yes, I'm going to put that message out there that Applejacks are healthy for your kids and they're full of fiber.
They don't have fi.
Is that why I love Applejacks and I've been spraying mud?
I can't believe they're not.
They don't have fiber.
That is something.
All of asbestos does.
You know, we.
By the way, isn't Christina O'Donnell's also very puritanical?
Like, she's anti-masturbation.
Yeah, she's anti-everything.
She said that she said I'm politically incorrect 10 years ago.
Right.
That you shouldn't lie ever.
And then somebody said to her, What if you were harboring Jews and the Nazis called?
Would you lie that you had Jews in your house?
And she said, God would instruct me how to be authentic.
She said, so you shouldn't even lie then.
So that's, they have her on tape saying that.
Like, I didn't get that for today's show because that would have made it more fun.
I'm just saying, like, I think, I think Karl Rove is foreseeing a very imminent future, which is the Puritans came to this country with pretty much the same ethos of like that strict an interpretation.
Well, what was the last time you met a Puritan, let alone a selectman?
Like, really?
Last time I met a Puritan front row on my show in Vegas, I'm thinking.
A lot of Mormons.
Oh, that's.
You know what I mean?
We have to shift topics because we're running out of time.
You know, what we're talking about right here is the Democrats' ineptitude.
It kind of dovetails with another thing.
Newt Gingrich said that he's quoting Dinesh D'Souza, who was saying that Newt Gingrich was quoted as saying that Barack Obama, his father's, our president is a ghost.
He's got, what did he call it?
He's an inebriated African Kenyan.
Anti-colonial Kenyan view.
And it just made people on the left going, Chris Matt.
Here's Chris Matthews.
Who isn't on the left?
Yes, but who can say, but that's all we have.
And so here's Chris Matthews.
And it's like, you know, it doesn't serve you to lose your sense of humor.
When Newt Gingrich did that, he didn't believe it.
He knows that's not true.
He's playing this politic game.
He's hoping people get ticked off.
So here's why, let's say he set it up.
So he has this guy on, and he's a political commentator.
I forget his name, Dave.
And so he's asking him his thoughts on what Newt Gingrich said.
Your thoughts, David?
No, it was strange.
Actually, Street said this to me.
Newt said this to me, and Robert Costa is a really great reporter for National Review.
And I could see a glint in his eye as he was saying this.
He knew he was going to get a news cycle or two of people analyzing what the heck he meant.
And what it reminds me of is just him getting the word Kenyon into the news reminds me of that old LBJ expression, make the SOB deny it.
It reminds me on your show two years ago when a Hillary advisor started using the word cocaine very deliberately to get us to talk about cocaine.
Okay, now this guy is explaining to Chris Matthews that, Chris, you're being played.
Do you understand how these guys do this?
This is a game and they're playing you, that they want you to get upset because that and you talk about it more, that they're winning.
And so, and guess who falls right into the freaking trap?
Our brilliant friend Chris Matthews.
That's to talk about.
I'm chuckling, David.
You think this is funny, David?
You think it's funny to de-Americanize somebody?
This is what they did to the caucus years ago.
You take an American whose parents are.
You want to see the Democrats do this to Arnold Schwarzenegger and talking about being an Austrian and what maybe somebody in his family might have done once.
You want to go after the Indian Americans who've done so well in American politics, Nikki Haley and the governor of Laisiana?
Are we going to go into this kind of tribal politics?
It's not funny, David.
So you're saying we shouldn't cover this?
No, you shouldn't cover it.
No, no, I'm saying that you should cover it, but when Chris Matthews allows himself to, that moral indignation.
Can you believe what they said again?
It's like, you got to stop getting upset at what they say.
But people, believers, do believe what Gingrich says.
Yes.
They do.
Yes, they do.
That's what Matthews should be getting upset over.
Yes.
Yes.
It's inciting racism.
It is inciting.
But I think to his commentators, Ray, you've given it way more airtime than it deserves.
What it deserves is Newt Gingrich is a horrible person.
Let's move on.
Next story.
Well, the Bernie of the Burning of the Kran story is the same thing.
I got to take this, you guys.
I'm sorry.
Hey, it's Jimmy.
Who's this?
Hey, Jimmy, how you doing?
It's moron.
Hey, moron.
How's it going, buddy?
What's on your mind?
Ah, Jimmy, you know me.
I'm a good American.
I'm easily manipulated to vote against my own economic interest.
I have a lot of legitimate anger, although it's often aimed at the wrong people.
But I do find comfort in the fact that my Lord Jesus the Christ hates exactly the same people as I do.
So, moron, I was wondering if I was going to hear from you.
What's going on today, buddy?
Hey, Jimmy, I've been seeing this all over the place.
There's a D-A-D-T.
D-A-D-T.
Everywhere I look, I see that D-A-D-T.
What does that mean?
D-A-D-T.
Don't ask, don't tell?
Huh?
Don't ask, don't tell.
Why not?
Why not what, buddy?
Why not don't ask?
No, don't ask, don't tell.
Why not?
No, I'm saying you said D-A-D.
D-A-D-T.
You said D-A-D-T.
Correct, D-A-D-T.
And I'm saying, don't ask, don't tell.
And I'm saying, why not don't ask, don't tell?
You can tell me, Jim.
I am telling you.
It's me, Moron.
I won't say nothing if that's what you're worried about.
No reason.
Are you burning with football?
I'm asking Jimmy about D-A-D-T.
Don't ask, don't tell.
How do you know that?
Moron, don't ask.
D-A-D-T stands for Don't Ask, Don't Tell, which is the common term for the policy restricting the United States military from efforts to discover or reveal closeted gay, lesbian, or bisexual service members or applicants while barring those who are openly gay, lesbian, or bisexual from military service.
Two questions.
Can you say that?
And two, I don't get it.
It was a policy of how the military tried to deal with gay people without being.
They tried not to be discriminatory, but it is.
It is.
I don't get so don't ask.
It was a really backwards, ignorant way that the military decided to deal with gay people in its ranks.
Queers in the military.
What they would do is they decided to say, hey, if you just don't be openly gay, we won't ask you if you're gay.
And then you can serve.
But if you come out and tell us, no, you're gay, then you can't serve.
So it's okay to be queer, but just shut up about it, right?
Yeah, basically, that's what they were saying.
Sounds reasonable.
That's not reasonable, moron.
That never made no sense to me.
Well, that's a good question, Moron.
But, you know, we actually have laws in place and a Constitution that's supposed to be protecting the rights of all Americans.
Even gays.
You know, just like you don't have laws that differentiate against religions.
Oh, yeah.
And look what they Got us, Jim.
We got one crazy guy wants to build that burnt decor in, and another crazy guy wants to build a musk.
A mosque?
Yeah, a musker.
What are you saying?
Saying Moss.
Just mosque.
Just no.
Moska!
Just Mosque, honey.
A mosque?
No, it's just Moss.
Why did that just make me hungry?
Why did that just make me half crazy?
Anyways, I know we talked about this before, Jimmy, but they got no business putting the mosque on ground zeros.
Oh, come on, Moron.
We went over this.
Refresh my memory.
Because we believe in liberty and freedom of religion.
Okay, just because you talk a lot doesn't mean you know for sure, right?
Right?
Moron, the very foundation of our country is freedom of religion.
Oh, are we going to have to agree to disagree?
I know plenty of people that agree with me, Jim.
Does Terese?
Oh, right.
Like, Therese is going to take your side.
Yeah.
I hear you.
Don't agree with me.
Are you hearing me?
Okay.
Yes, I agree with you, Laura.
See, Jimmy, Teresa agrees with me that we believe in religious freedom.
That doesn't.
Just not at the ground zero.
Everybody knows that the dumbest left England in 1609 to seek religious fear.
Yeah, religious freedom for us, not them.
Hey, oh my gosh, Jim.
What?
Hey, did you see that Karl Rove was going nuts?
Because Rosie O'Donnell won that several Senate seat up in Delaware's.
Oh, yeah.
I know.
I know what you're talking about.
It's not Rosie O'Donnell.
It's not Rose.
No.
I know.
No, it's Christine O'Donnell is her name, and she's a teabagger.
Which kind?
The fun kind?
The fun kind.
Oh, really?
No.
Oh.
I can't tell when you're being serious sometimes.
Anyway, I can't believe that Karl Rove wouldn't be nicer to that lady O'Donnell because Sarah Palins likes her, too.
Yeah, it's like there's a civil war going on in the Republican Party.
I know, right?
Yeah, who would have thought all that fear-mongering and race-baiting would have actually divided the conservatives?
Not I, Jim.
Not I. Me neither, buddy.
Hey, Jim, did you hear everyone's got their bushes in a knot over the fact that Newt Gingrich says that Obama has a Kenyan worldview?
Oh, yeah, I saw that.
What does that mean?
I think it means he stays married to his first wife.
Hey, Jim, why do the Democrats want to raise taxes?
They don't want to raise taxes.
They want to raise taxes right in the middle of a recession.
That's dumb.
No, they actually want to cut taxes for the middle class, buddy.
That's not what I heard.
Well, what did you hear?
I heard they want to raise taxes, as usual, that Democrats do when they get into power.
No, what they want to do is cut taxes for people like you, buddy.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
That's not what I heard.
No, they're not going to raise taxes at all.
What they're going to do is let the tax cuts that they gave George Bush gave to the wealthiest 2% of Americans.
He's going to let those tax cuts expire so that we go back to the previous tax rate like it was under Bill Clinton.
You know, when we had boom times.
Doesn't that sound like a good idea?
No, not really.
That's not what Sean Hannity says.
What does he say?
He says that that'll hurt us.
How will raising, resetting the tax rates where they were during the Clinton boom times on the top 2% of wage earners, how is that going to hurt the middle class?
I don't know.
I guess that the rich people will be mad that their taxes went up and then they won't hire people.
Is that really the best he can come up with?
That rich people will be angry and they won't hire people?
I never got a job from a poor guy.
Yeah, but what is that?
That doesn't even...
I don't know, but I like saying it.
Makes me sound smart, I think.
Doesn't make you sound smart.
See what I mean?
Uh-huh.
Hey, Jim, did you hear about Chattanooga, Tennessee?
You mean about the internet there?
Yeah, to get the fastest internet and the planet there.
Yeah, that's what I heard.
Them in Japan, I guess?
Yeah.
They're competing.
My cousin lives there.
Oh, you're kidding?
Oh, and what did he say about getting the world's fastest internet?
He said, what's the internet?
You're kidding?
Hey, Jim, did you get that gift I sent you?
Oh, yeah, buddy.
The thing to clean my grill?
Yeah, the Grill Daddy Pro?
Yeah, it cleans with the power of steam, Jim.
It cleans like a mother.
Yeah, I appreciate that, buddy.
I haven't really gotten a chance to give a good cleaning to my grill this summer.
Oh, all you do is you preheat the grill.
Yeah, I got it.
You filled the Grill Daddy Pro with water.
Okay.
And then you start to brush away caked on food, residue, and grease.
Uh-huh.
And then it releases the water as you brush, rinsing away all the burnt food and dirt.
Yeah, I got it, Maura.
I know how a grill brush works.
When the water hits the grill, it turns to steam.
Yeah, I got it, buddy.
No problem.
And that leaves the grill sparkling clean.
Uh-huh.
I got it.
Sanitized.
Sanitized?
Yeah, like sterile.
At a sterile barbecue grill?
I don't know.
That's what they say.
Stero.
Well, it certainly is nice of you, and it's a nice little item.
I appreciate it.
Yeah, it's got the stainless steel head there for cleaning the grill.
Yeah, I saw that.
And then the rest of it is made out of FDA-approved plastic.
I didn't know the FDA needed to approve plastic.
Again, I don't know.
That's what they say.
Okay, Jim.
Well, listen, I gotta go.
It was really nice talking to you.
I'm gonna go clean my grill right now.
It got me so excited.
Okay, have fun, buddy.
Something about steam.
I love cleaning with steam.
I love it.
Sometimes you gotta make your own fun.
Okay, Jim, take care.
Talk to you later, buddy.
Bye-bye.
Okay, that was Moron calling in.
Thanks, Moron.
I appreciate it.
And don't forget, we're on a new time now here in Los Angeles.
This Thursdays from 4 to 5 every Thursday.
The Jimmy Dorser.
I want to thank everybody who was in the studio with me today.
Paul Gilmartin from Asker Republican.com.
We got Jim Earl.
Jim, what's your website?
JimEarl.com.
JimEarl.com.
And Robert Yasamura from TeamYasamura.com.
How do you spell Yasamura?
Y-A-S-U-M-U-R-A.
There you go.
All right, and I want to thank my writers too.
Stan Stankos, Steph Samurano, Ben Zalavansky.
Thanks for all your help.
I want to thank my producer, Ali Lexa, for getting it done.
And thank you for listening.
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