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And it's a snapshot of a particular era.
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I can't be bothered to go through the thing that we just went through last time.
We've been trying to record this before and I can't summon up the excitement to be able to go through my excited spiel again.
So just tell me your interesting things you've got to tell me.
I think there's well there's two big interesting things is the Prevent programme.
That's the sort of UK sort of anti-terrorism program to monitor essentially young people.
And there's quite a big scandal there.
And also I've been doing some work on reform and some very interesting connections with Matt Goodwin and people who you wouldn't expect him to be connected with in any way.
So those are two kinds of things.
So I'm just thinking for a moment for non-English listeners, how am I going to make this sexy?
I mean, I think the reform in a way is more relatable for people who aren't in, because they've heard of Nigel Farage.
And they might even have been sold the line or even bought into the line that Nigel Farage is like the guy who's going to rescue Britain because he was the guy who sorta kinda gave us Brexit and he's a cheeky chappy and he's always pictured with a pint in his hands and a cigarette and that kind of cheeky chappy grin, which I'm getting.
Anti-establishment, black sheep, rebel.
How long did it take to cultivate that completely fake image?
Long time ago.
Probably, yeah, I mean, 20 years, I guess, isn't it?
They spend a long time on these people to get them in the right shape.
It's really interesting, isn't it, to see, to have gone through the stages where I remember doing an interview with Nigel Farage for, I think for the spectator, when I had a column, when I had a me column when I could write about what I wanted.
And I thought, shall I do it?
Let's try and do an interview with Nigel Farage.
And it felt slightly naughty doing it with him at the time because he was this...
Not a pariah, exactly, but he was considered...
And I think I'd written a piece saying, I think I might vote UKIP, which was a sort of shocking thing to say because obviously the Tories, the Conservative Party were there to represent people of a supposedly right-wing persuasion.
And UKIP were sort of batty and possibly borderline racist.
All these images had been placed in the public imagination, telling them where you can go, where you can't go, where it's kind of dangerous or edgy or exciting to go and where it's safe.
We're so manipulated, aren't we?
It's terrible.
It's terrible.
It really is.
It's exactly as you say.
You're given all the little options, like every little demographic is given their person from upstairs to believe in and buy into, but ultimately they're all controlled from upstairs.
Yes.
It's really weird.
Have you noticed, by the way, just a brief digression.
I just did a piece explaining that Clarkson's Farm is, it's called Clarkson's Farm is Building Your Gulag.
And I'm a massive fan of the series.
I find it very, very enjoyable to watch.
And I like Jeremy Clarkson, or rather, I like the idea of Jeremy Clarkson.
He seems to speak for us rebels, us petrol heads, us, etc.
And he seems to be an honest chap who speaks his mind.
But obviously I don't agree with that.
In the article, I sort of suggest that perhaps...
I think you're right.
Yeah, you have to pull out the subliminal messages.
They'd never give you a full frontal.
It's always somewhere between the lines is what they actually want you to get implanted into your mind.
And those are the most dangerous psyops I find.
The ones where they tell you stuff that you think you're enjoying hearing and your defenses are down.
And that makes you vulnerable to the subliminal brainwashing, which is going on under the radio.
Well, like they say, this is not their first rodeo, right?
They've been doing this a long, long time.
Anyway, the point, the connection I was going to make was with Farage and Clarkson.
They both have, they do this thing.
I think he used to smoke cigarettes.
I don't think he does anymore.
But they're both characters who are being implanted in your head as the kind of chaps you'd meet down the pub and you'd enjoy.
And they're standing up for the old values and they're sick and tired of what's happened to their country.
And they really had enough of it.
And they're your guy.
And you realise that they're peas out of a pod.
I doubt they've put on necessarily, but they are even down to the Tattersal Czech shirts that they wear and the tweeds.
They're there for a particular constituency.
Yeah.
And if you actually step back, I think the globalists realize that they have one force essentially, which is patriotism, which will actually be their undoing.
So they have to knock patriotism on the head.
And the only safe way of doing that is to put the Judas Goats up, who will capture the Patriots.
And that's the way they deal with it.
Right.
Yes, I suppose that is a good term to describe.
Because there are various terms of scepticism that one uses about various characters.
Controlled opposition, limited hangout, which I suppose they are as well.
But Judas Goats may be a better description because they're not really working for us, are they?
They're working against us.
No, they're working against us.
So I think for me, the big job for Farage is to deliver us over to compulsory ID.
And it was kind of notable that they put the red balloon up a couple of weeks ago about compulsory ID to fix illegal immigration and reform basically just let it go.
Let's talk about Burkers, let's talk about South Wales, let's talk about anything and everything, Doge.
But I haven't seen literally really a single Word from them about compulsory ID.
So they're just distracting the whole demographic that's like dead against that kind of thing.
They're just distracting them off into the weeds.
That's their job is to deliver us into digital ID.
So reform for non-English, non-British, British viewers are the new alternative party, allegedly, the new alternative to the two main parties, Labour and Conservative.
And they're the successor to UKIP, which was the party, the UK Independence Party, which supposedly helped engineer the move out of Brexit, out of Europe, which never happened, by the way.
That was another SIOP.
But we were told that, yeah, the pressure put by Nigel Farage and the UK Independence Party on the Conservatives meant that they were forced into having a referendum.
And amazingly, this constituency, the ones that felt alienated by the failure of the Conservatives to represent their interests and were patriotic and were concerned about immigration and et cetera, et cetera, these people are voting in droves, apparently, for reform.
And they're just another one.
It's just another.
It's a pen, isn't it?
So the sheep have run out of the conservative pen because they were betrayed so incredibly by the fake conservatives that the level of betrayal is literally jaw-dropping for me.
And they're talking about all this immigration, but we issued 1.4 million non-visitor visas in one of those years, like 2023 or 24.
And prior to that, been about 500,000, very level for a long time.
So they just like they pushed the, like, put the foot to the floor on the visa issuing machine.
And that is something that's completely within their control.
There's no arguments about French police or, you know, they did that deliberately.
They betrayed conservatives.
Yeah.
The betrayal is staggering, to be honest.
So of course there would be fallout.
So you need to capture those people who have run away from the last scam.
So you need to capture them into the next scam.
They are.
They're like sheep.
They're like panicked sheep.
Because I see a lot of sheep, Alex.
I'm surrounded by sheep.
And the other day was shearing day.
And we had like 350 sheep all in one fairly small field.
And they were all going, me, me, me, me, me, me.
And then the fence that was supposed to divide the sheep, the sheep from different fields collapsed under the weight of sheep.
And so they were all the sheep from all over the many, many acres surrounding me were mixed up.
But they normally find a way, they find their babies in the end.
Anyway.
But I did have sympathy because I always remind myself I was a sheep as well.
And, you know, it's only now I've started really questioning the whole Brexit psyop.
I think it is a psyop.
But at the time, I was like, no, the narrative is right.
And we're really finally getting a chance to take back control, which was now you look at it, it's a total joke.
We've totally lost control of the government.
If we ever had it, you know, we may have had a bit of influence here and there as the actual citizens, but now it's completely gone.
We are definitely the objects of government.
We have zero control over this machinery right now.
If it's any consolation, Alex, I don't think we ever had any control.
Yeah.
But I think there were boundaries to what they were prepared to do.
And of course, that boundary just collapsed in 2020 when they went just rogue, rogue, Nazi.
Then you realize actually these boundaries have just been, they decided, okay, let's do away with these boundaries.
I think you're right.
I think that the only thing that's been holding them back hitherto has been the question, what can we get away with?
And now they've reached the stage where we can get away with anything.
There is nothing they can do to stop us.
We must have a lot of things.
That's literally what Ferguson said.
I never thought we'd get away with it.
Professor Ferguson, the famous modeller in inverted commas.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think that's right.
I think they've always been not remotely interested in...
We're not the ones giving them their orders.
They take them orders from above.
Do you ever wonder what it is that goes through the heads of these people when, I mean, at cabinet level, say, or senior party level, where they realise that the party they joined because they believed in conservative values and stuff,
and that's presumably why they became an MP, is actually cooperating in this collergy plan to import loads and loads of people who are not interested in assimilating with the country.
They're possibly there as a sort of UN police force to do the enforcement that native British won't do when it all kicks off.
And they're there to...
They're not going to...
I think they're there to destroy Christianity as well.
What do you think goes through the heads of them, the MPs, when they realise this?
Do you think they get a dark night of the soul, a flicker of a sleepless night?
Or do you think they just go, well, I guess if that's what they're doing.
They just go with it, right?
They just roll with it.
But I also want to be fair because one of the messages I want to make is that we still need to interact with somebody in that system.
We can't, you know, now we understand how rotten it is and dangerous it is to us and how it's essentially our enemy.
We still need to deal with it.
And, like, for example, the DUP, I've been following what they've been doing, and they're like, they seem like rock solid.
So they're still like, I mean, they're tiny, of course, because, and so therefore, they're allowed to be solid, but there are a few, there must be a few MPs who are still, you know, okay.
But as you said, the more they get to the center of power, the more the more they're going to have to just give up that and just do as they're told on this insane destruction plan that we're in the middle of.
Name this OK MP.
I don't believe he exists or she.
I think, I can't remember his first name, but Shannon is the DUP guy.
And I've done some weird things that nobody normal would do as reading Hansard.
And he's very good on all things that we would...
Does he?
And there's a couple of people.
I bet he's a man of God as well.
I bet he is.
I mean, there's no way, you know, there's no, there's certainly none of the others are.
Shannon.
Okay.
I'm going to try and...
That'll be interesting.
So yeah, I don't think they have too much flicker of conscience, to be honest.
The allure of the money and the power is just too much.
And the underage children.
Yeah, and the athletic Rome.
Let's not forget those.
Or boys, girls, whatever.
So I was going to say I really, really hate reform, but actually, I don't hate reform.
I do despise them.
But I think when you get to our stage of understanding, it's not really hatred you feel for these.
They're all just fallen, corrupt, useless, terrible people who are going to pay a terrible price for what they do.
If not in this life, then certainly in the next one.
Yeah.
I mean, it's frustrating trying to explain to people because, you know, you always get two arguments.
It's like they're less bad than the others and give them a chance.
And it's like, you know, God.
You know, you don't know where to start.
You know, you say, look, give them a chance.
But they've, in the Milgram experiment of COVID, they completely fell into line and pushed compulsory vaccines and banged pots and wore masks.
Like, you know, that's it.
That is the end of your assessment of those people.
You know what they are.
They told you.
And yet you still insist on give them a chance and there's nobody else.
It's like this is if you think that way, there never will be anyone else.
And you, and you will, you know, you will give your money to the con artist and then complain when you get conned.
It's ludicrous.
Well, there is, there is, this is one of the few areas where I slightly disagree with Miri in that I don't think there is, I don't think we can vote our way out of this.
I mean, she says I think we need to find local candidates who are.
I think what I've come to is we will never, ever, ever vote in any number of MPs that will really have any chance ever of being anywhere near a majority.
But you might be able to get it.
You might be able to get two or three MPs.
And I think she gave that example of the sort of, let's say, pro-Palestine MPs.
They did organize themselves because whatever you think about the Muslims, that community is totally cohesive and they vote, you know, like along the party lines.
So they managed to get, I don't remember, it was four people in.
And, you know, we have none.
So I don't think your expectations should be much higher than maybe one or two people at the MP level.
But then you've got the council level.
And what I'm doing is the single issue lobbying against stuff that's completely crazy.
And I think that would work as well.
I think when you tell the other side, look, we know what you're doing.
We know you've destroyed the civil service.
We know you've destroyed government.
You've weaponized it into this kind of globalist thing.
And now you're using it as a stick.
But we know you're doing that.
And here's the documents.
And then this is kind of the line.
And please do not cross this line.
I think putting up that kind of resistance is definitely worth doing.
So you've got several things, but I agree, you'll never get serious power through voting, I don't think.
In terms of 650 seats, you'll never get anywhere.
And then if you do even get there, they'll never let you on the right committees and they'll never give you committee chairmanship and all that kind of thing.
No.
Can we talk briefly about...
Alison Pearson of the Daily Telegraph?
Absolutely.
Because I think that this is an interesting...
If this talk has a theme so far, it's about holding pens, about corralling people into pens where they feel that they're part...
And the faction represented by reform is a bit like that.
It's the kind of people who read Toby Young and Alison Pearson and they feel strongly about Israel.
They think Israel's fantastic.
Israel's a democracy.
surrounded by these evil terrorists.
Islam is a real threat and it's just really They make them wear things and they're terrible places.
They do.
The burqa is something that we should all feel really strongly about and much more strongly than we're doing.
I'm saying that's the talking point because every friend I'll call within a minute will start telling me about.
And I was like, why on earth are you all of a sudden out of 10,000 things we could discuss talking to me about burqas in Iran?
And you know it's been planted, right?
I'm okay with ID, with just giving all my details and having my life decided by my possession of this card, the spy monitoring thing that you can control me forever.
That's fine.
But a few women covering their faces.
There's no way.
No way.
So there was a spat on Twitter the other day when Miri, Miri AF, who is really one of my favourite spicy writers, called into question this PSYOP involving a woman called Lucy Connolly.
And Lucy Connolly, if we believe the official narrative, is a kind of freedom fighter like us who has been put in prison for, let's say, a careless tweet in which she, an inflammatory tweet concerning the another fake incident, the Southern Southport, isn't it?
Southport.
Southport.
So we have a situation where a probably non-existent killer probably didn't kill some girls at a Taylor Swift dance event.
That was the clue.
Anything with Taylor Swift invented, it was likely.
I can't prove this because, of course, it's very, very hard to get access to reliable information because by definition, the waters are muddied in these false flags and silos.
But I suspect it was probably fake.
And this woman, Lucy Connolly, whose husband was a counselor who was the first person in Northamptonshire to receive the COVID jab, is that right?
Yeah, yeah.
He's an asset.
So she's possibly likely an asset.
So she then tweets something inflammatory about this thing that didn't happen, probably.
Yeah.
But it was inflammatory and probably caused riots that also didn't happen.
They were just, they were faked.
And now she's gone supposedly to prison for this thing.
And the people that Alison Pearson speaks for, and the people that Toby Young speaks for, who are also the kind of people who watch Jeremy Clarkson, who also quite like the idea of what Nigel Farage is doing and considering voting reform.
This constituency are being encouraged to get very up in arms about Lucy Connolly, who's one of them.
She's one of them.
And all she did was tweet, and then she regretted it afterwards.
And now she's in prison.
And I'm looking at this stuff going, is any of this stuff real?
I think anyone who understands how false flags and stuff works and how deceived we are at every level will be looking at this string of events and going, how can I trust this?
Because it's being written up in the media, which is a lie machine.
And then you look at Alison Pearson and you think, Alison, I used to be a massive fan of yours because you write like a dream.
But you've been remarkably quiet on vaccine injuries.
You were big on how wrong it was to lock us up.
But that was the halfway house position that endeared you to the kind of the semi-resistance movement.
Yeah.
No, I think you're right.
I mean, I haven't looked at those things because, I mean, I know exactly the people you're talking about, but I've been quite focused on like interacting with the system because I think you guys cover a lot more, especially Miri, on is any of this real?
And I looked at Alison Pearson's story about her non-crime hate incident.
And I have to say, I found a few things there that didn't add up.
Oh, really?
So I interacted with her a bit on Twitter on that, and there was no response.
So there was something that didn't add up about it.
You know, she claimed, you know, I'd been arrested, but you can't be arrested under non-crime hate.
There was some, that could be wrong.
There was just a bunch of details that didn't quite work out.
She didn't call you a mad cow then.
She didn't call you a mad cow.
Because she made a tactical error.
She waded in.
When I tweeted that I wasn't sure that Lucy Connolly even existed.
I think she probably does give this, but not as sold.
Alison Pearson waded in and was angry and sort of wanted to reveal me to the world as one of those terrible, crazy...
Which is what they always do.
Think of the imaginary dead children.
Imaginary children died, don't you?
40 of them died during the invasion on October the 7th.
40 imaginary children, and you don't care about them.
Anyway, so she wades in.
And I say, well, Alison, I think you should discuss this with Miri because she's going to love talking to you about this.
And you can help clear up matters for her.
And you can also talk to her about vaccines.
Miri's good on that.
And Alison, satisfyingly, rose to the bait and called Miri a mad cow conspiracy theorist, which you never do.
Because Miri's now, she's now coolly written a letter to the editors of the Telegraph saying, Are you really sure that you want your correspondents who are old enough to be my mum accusing me of being a mad cow?
Anyway, where am I going with this?
Sorry, I just get excited about these things because I used to be one of these people.
And when you come to the other side and you realize how fake the whole thing is, so you've got your doubts about Allison's high-profile non-hate.
I mean, you know, you're right.
The media is a lie machine and I hadn't realized until recently.
And again, Reform gave me an insight into that, not so much from their coverage, but it's what's not said.
And for me, it was in The Guardian.
I just watched a bit of Guardian coverage about Farage's kind of, who knows what that guy really is.
He may well be the handler.
He's a roster.
This pretty boy George.
Oh, what do you mean the MK Ultra type, the monarch programming handler?
That would be funny.
I think he, well, I mean, he, because you read The Guardian and it gave him a kind of a rosy write-up, you know, a little bit of a Diamond Geezer look at his hot girlfriend.
And it's like, why aren't you talking about this guy being in fistbite with his girlfriend and being arrested, being arrested and detained in the police station in Montenegro?
Who are we talking about?
Why is that?
Who are we talking about here?
George Cottrell.
I think you didn't mention it.
Yeah, George Cottrell is Farage's...
Isn't it pronounced Cottrell?
Yeah, it could be.
So, but, but the, you know, the thing is like, why is there's, The Guardian should be on the lookout for any kind of scandal and thing that they can attack their political opponents with, but there's just nothing.
Okay, so you better take a step back.
So there's a guy called George Cottrell.
Yeah, who's Nigel Farage is, I don't know what he is.
He's a sort of associate.
They're always together all the time.
And it's sort of known that he was previously arrested and he went to jail in the US for a short space of time.
For what?
And he's released and they're back now.
But he's now based in Montenegro.
And it was his mother, it was his mother that's just given £750,000 to Reform UK.
And that's not £100.
That is quite a lot.
And her CV is a girlfriend of Charles III now and Prince back then and being in one of the glossy magazines in Penthouse or one of those things.
That's her CV.
So to suddenly come up with 750.
If she's a Cottrell, though, I know about the Cottrills because they are my kinsmen.
I have Cotrell in my bloodline.
That's Barton, then, is it?
The Barton line.
I don't know.
All I know is that when I was...
And I know that when my dad was driving me through this village of half-timbered houses between Worcester on the way to Hereford, I think.
I can't remember what it's called.
Pembridge or something.
I don't know.
Anyway.
And said, your relative used to own all this.
And I'm obviously, if I am a Cottrell, I'm a very, very junior diluted branch of it.
And I suppose we all have connections somewhere in our history.
I suppose, what's it called?
Miles Mathis would make a great deal of this.
Yeah, and James Daniel Pole is related to the Cottrells, who are semister by our bloodline, probably.
All I know is that they've got money.
So this woman who used to be a girlfriend of the man we must learn to call the king, is she a cultural by birth or by marriage?
So she's the daughter of the third Baron.
I think it's Barton.
And that's its own line with a lot of money in it.
Okay.
Okay.
So these rich bloodlinish families which are putting money into this fake party reform.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then the Guardian, which supposedly represents the left, which should be pointing out these, but having a go at them, is keeping stum.
Yeah, they're keeping shtum about this arrest of George Cottrell in Montenegro for fighting with his girlfriend, which should be explosive in a way.
Can you imagine if we actually had a press, you know, Farage, right-hand man and fundraiser arrested for fistfight with his wife?
So she's like super hot, of course.
So it'd be like the story would be great.
And there's just like nothing.
He does sound a bit dodgy, this character.
What was he arrested in America for?
It was to do with he was in theory on the dark web offering money laundering services.
He was or his associate was one of them altogether.
And they stung him for like, yeah, okay, we'll buy your money laundering services.
And that was that.
He then was arrested.
I have to say, My sympathy is slightly increased for him because I think money laundering and any attempt to stop evil governments getting their hands on you and to spend on ramping up war with Iran or whatever, whatever they do with our money.
Yeah, but I see.
so he's a bit dodgy and Farage is close with him.
I think the whole reform They're joined at the hip.
Right.
You think they're lovers?
I wouldn't say that, but they're always, you know, I sort of know from various angles that he's always there.
You know, Farage is very rarely away from this guy.
I wonder if all senior politicians swing both ways.
I think that...
I'm not suggesting that Farage is gay.
Although, I mean...
Yeah, they're implementing this completely anti-Christian hellscape.
So anything that we would consider good, they would be prepared to destroy.
So yeah, they'll be into anything that's deviant and weird.
The demons, particularly one of them, they really love anal sex.
Do you know that?
Who looks into the demons?
Yeah, I mean, you're not supposed to, but there's one particular demon that specializes in anal sex.
And do you remember that thing he did?
There was a trick they did.
All these sort of these God-fearing Christian kids in America a few years back, they persuaded them that they could keep their virginity before marriage by doing anal only.
Which I thought was, I mean, I shouldn't smirk at it.
When you realize just how utterly corrupted, depraved our world is, and it's demons, as Catherine Austin Fitz says, in cahoots with their human agents.
They're just evil.
And I look at the form and I'm thinking, you're not an alternative to evil.
You're just more evil.
You're just like an evil, evil Swiss role or something.
Well, it's just a creation.
It's like thin air with great spin, a lot of media coverage and nice visuals.
And it's like, because, you know, and that, but that's the problem for the people.
You need to judge a person by their actions and they simply refuse to do that.
They judge a person by their sound bites and the amount of media coverage they get.
That's why, you know, Farage now has wiped out any sort of patriotic, honest opposition with integrity.
They're done.
They won't get anywhere.
He's such a spiv, that Farage.
I think so.
I think he is.
I mean, I definitely wouldn't buy a year's car off him.
Yeah.
And the other guy is even worse, probably Tice.
He went out there and said, I insisted on choice for vaccination.
Whereas, I mean, it's literally everybody knows he said compulsory vaccination for care home workers.
How can you just like, it's not a subtle like benefit of the doubt gray area, just like a flat out lie when he said, I insisted on personal choice.
Well, I mean, no, you didn't.
You insisted on compulsory.
So it's like, you know, it's like just a total lie.
And it was on GB News, and they didn't challenge him, of course.
He said, hmm, well, that's right.
Yeah, I remember that.
And then they just carried on the interview.
Whereas if GB News was a real news outlet, they'd say, well, actually, we know that's not true.
They are so not a real news outlet.
They are so very much part of the, like you said, the sheep herding.
Also, that's the propaganda arm for those people to get them into that pen led by Judas Goat Farage, essentially.
So obviously it's all hopeless in the sense that this has been so embedded in our system for so long and so many people are still asleep that I don't see how this ends without divine intervention.
But in the meantime, that doesn't mean that people like you and me, I think one of our key roles, and you particularly, is showing the enemy's workings.
It's like when you're doing at school, you had to do a complicated maths sum, and you were encouraged to show your workings, how you reached this conclusion.
And I think this is really, really important.
I think that it's all very well saying, yeah, they're working for the devil.
Fatnage is as dodgy as the rest of them.
And my gut tells me.
But it is nice to have occasional evidence to back it up.
And you're quite good at that.
You're quite good at rumbling people.
Amazing Collie as well is good at that.
Because you've got kind of metrics that you can use to check who's fake and who's real, haven't you?
Yeah, I mean, on the social media, it's easy.
I mean, it's now, I've done it so much, you can look in a second.
But the teller's always huge, huge profile with no content.
It's like, well, why is that?
And it's always because they're on message.
So they're, you know, they're like whatever they need today.
So, you know, today they need to, everyone to hate Iran and have sympathy for innocent Israel.
So that's the message today.
So all these like huge profile, massive accounts on social media and mainstream media, that's all just, you know, shouting that.
And then you understand why these people with no content got a million followers.
And you go, oh, because when the time comes, they just push the message.
Oh, can you, can you give me any examples?
Yeah, Insurrection Barbie, I think the account is.
It's over a million followers.
I just scanned it, there's no content, and then it's like rabid, you know, warmongering this week.
So yeah, it all sounds so great.
You know, we're going to storm the capital, we the people, liberty, pursuit of happiness.
Yeah, it's all nonsense.
It's all inversion.
Everything's an inversion.
So it is.
But you were saying on methods, what I'm doing, I'm doing it this week.
I'm going to do like a six-step method for how they ram through all this legislation that none of us want.
It's all top-down.
I'm going to say this is the method and this is how we're going to fight against it.
Yeah, it's stuff you'd know.
It's like it's Bolshevism 101 without the bare nets, essentially.
It's the same methods.
Yes.
I can well believe that.
Somebody did a, did you see that?
Somebody did it.
I think it was Legal Man did a chat on ChatGPT asking ChatGPT to explain whether there were any difference between the Democrats and the Bolsheviks.
Yeah.
And ChatGPT reluctantly, because it's been programmed otherwise, had to concede in the end that yes, there is really no difference at all.
They use exactly the same methods.
Same.
But then, you know, Blair and Starmer are both into very weird, far, far left thinking.
And Peter Hitchens has exposed that.
I don't remember the name of the sort of, it's almost a sect that Starmer's in.
It was some Greek revolutionary.
So Starmer's way into this.
So they will have studied every Bolshevik method that there is and they use them.
That's what this is.
They're just taking over everything, you know, through the civil service, education, the Grampsy March.
It's happened.
And now they can use the tools.
So every day they give themselves a new tool.
And that was, you know, the prevent defining reasonable thought as potential terrorism.
That's just another tool.
And as you said, they've got now this Online Safety Act.
That's another tool.
We can put someone in prison.
And they're building these tools every day to oppress anyone that doesn't agree with them.
Ah, yes, you were going to mention prevent.
So this is the move where people like us, or anyone sceptical of anything reasonable, are being branded cultural nationalists.
Is that what we're called?
Cultural nationalists.
That's what we're called.
So if a teacher or anybody sees a cultural nationalist, they're supposed to be referred to Prevent.
But that story surfaced, which I found a bit strange.
And then I looked at that story.
But the real story of Prevent is a bunch of that money, which is supposed to sort of nip potential terrorists in the bud and stop them being radicalized.
A bunch of that money is going to an ultra-radical Islam associated NGO.
And the head of that NGO is on record as saying we should give the Taliban a chance.
And he's like, you know, Afghanistan isn't that bad.
And it's like, so he is literally, I mean, he's, the whole thing is crazy.
We're giving money to this NGO.
The head of the NGO is saying Taliban are not so bad.
He runs a Sharia core operation inside the UK.
And I've read his stuff and it basically says we're not taking on any value, you know, we're not taking on any values or culture from the West.
We will actually put Islamic values into Britain.
That's what he, I mean, I haven't said verbatim, but that's what he said at the end of the day.
And our anti-terrorism training money is going to him, and he also has an OBE.
And it's an inversion.
The only way you can understand this is inversion.
So people will sort of say, oh, it's all incompetence, these stupid people.
How couldn't they figure this out?
Like, no, if they tell you this, yeah, this is pure inversion.
It's like, and someone back in the red team is just sitting there having just the, you know, just having such a good laugh that we've taken these guys' prevent money and given it to a guy who's sympathetic to the Taliban.
And we gave him an OBE as well.
For a guy who says, we will not have British values here.
We will put our Islamic values into Britain.
You're right.
And let's not forget, we just gave a knighthood.
I say we.
A knighthood was given by this alleged king character, Charles III, to Sadiq Khan, the mayor of London, who is another Islamist.
That's the nicest thing you can say about it.
I mean, the services to destruction of Britain, and they're both doing it.
So there's high fives between the fifth columnists that they're destroying the country together.
Alex, I know some people accuse me of being a deep cover enemy agent.
Although I didn't think your researchers, you've looked into this and you haven't found anything yet.
No, no, I think, you know, what I'm trying to do is I'm trying to like people cover different bases.
So I know you cover a lot more of the spiritual level of like, what's the connection and this and that.
And my message is like, I think we need more people on this kind of paper shuffling front of actually trying to stop this legislation.
So I wrote to Yvette Cooper yesterday along with Matt Letizier, David Curtin, Tech Kong, and we've actually now filed in a proper letter saying, look, this Prevent program is a complete mess.
It's been politicized as a stick to beat normal people up, and it's handing out money to NGOs sympathetic to the Taliban.
And there's a couple of other things there as well.
But those were the two messages.
So it's, you know, my message is that there needs to be more of this getting engaged with that corrupt system, getting the document trails in place.
And we want to go and see them.
We don't want to be fobbed off, which we will be with, like we've looked at it and everything's fine.
You know, we it's like now it's like the stage.
Are we going to really stand up on that sort of like legalistic formal level and try and put a stop to some of this?
Because I think that's, that's a, that's a bit of a missing piece right now.
When I suppose I was being slightly flippant when I said, slightly, when I said that there's nothing we can do, that, that, at this point, only God can intervene.
Actually, what you're doing seems to me to be a very good thing and part of something that is, I'm sometimes in my more pessimistic moment inclined to say the Renault White Hats, but actually there are people in history who've taken a stand.
And I'll give you two examples.
Smedley Butler, who you must know about, Smedley Butler, the highly decorated US Marine who wrote a piece in a book in 1935, I think, called something like War is a Racket.
And he pointed out that all wars are generated by elites in order to profit.
That's all they're about.
They're not about patriotism.
They're not about.
Yeah.
I'm just going to look at it.
Dumbing down of American Education.
Probably can't find it in a Google search.
She wrote this book from the position of somebody in government who'd found her way into a cabinet in her room that was not in her office that she was not supposed to look at because she was expected to go to tea parties and go to the tennis club and stuff.
But instead, she smuggled this information out and wrote a book about it.
So you do, probably Catherine Austin Fitz is another example of a whistleblower.
So you're right.
It is really important that people like you hold them to account using, even if their system is corrupt, you're still having a go.
But where are you going to get this letter publicized?
It'll be later this week.
I didn't do it now because everyone's busy with Iran and stuff.
But it won't, we'll release that we've sent it with the actual letter in a couple of days, but it won't be picked up by any mainstream paper, of course, because they ignored the story in the first place.
So they wrote the piece about the normal people being defined as cultural nationalists, but they completely blanked the bit about the money going to these completely mad NGOs.
So that, again, that's an editorial decision that that's outside the Oberton window.
So I'll send them the letter.
I don't think anyone will pick it up.
But across us, we've got 1.1 million followers on Twitter.
So we can definitely get some traction on that if we cleverly sort of tweet this message out.
Sorry, I've just been distracted.
Charlotte Isabit.
Her name was.
Okay, yeah.
Senior policy advisor to the U.S. Department of Education.
Died amazingly age 91, so they didn't bump her off, which is kind of surprising.
I think there are some rules that we don't know about, and I think it's, you know, I think there's a certain limit for non-combatants are kind of allowed to stay.
Yeah, in her case, anyway.
What do you mean?
Well, there's some unwritten rules.
You know, potentially these guys can bump anyone off, but we're still here and they don't, you know.
You're just talking about it's like La Anne.
The guy jumping out of a 100-story building, you know, 50 stories down.
He's like, yeah, it's fine so far.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, but it's fine.
We get a good deal in the afterlife.
We might even get martyrdom.
Whoa.
That would be good.
I think you get a special table.
Not quite at the right hand of God, but probably in one of them.
Nice seats.
Good seats.
I would like to think so.
But then, I mean, the more I look into this stuff, Alex, the more I become convinced of the spiritual nature of this war.
You talk about inversion, and inversion is absolutely how the devil operates.
It's beautiful when you figure it out because everything they say is a total inversion of the truth.
And I mean, there's that Musk tweet, isn't there?
I've almost forgotten about it.
The auto, what's the auto ab power?
Yeah, so you wanted to talk about that, didn't you?
Well, I mean, yeah, just in the sense that even Musk actually literally said Musk literally had that tweet, didn't he?
The auto I keep getting it wrong.
So auto secular.
Yeah.
Nobody.
New World Order, essentially.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And of course, what I realized and I hadn't figured out was, well, to get to the new world order, you need auto ab cow or chow, however you pronounce it.
So you need order from chaos.
That's the 33rd degree Masonic motto.
So they needed to get the order, they need the chaos.
And we're in the chaos now.
That's what they're doing.
They're setting the chaos going.
And then on the political level, they keep saying all this build back better and great reset and all the rest of it.
But the next level up is, you know, the new world order, which actually Musk tweeted.
And I think he may have got a slap on the wrist for doing that because he was, that's in your face at that point.
You know, that's, you know, but I need to translate that into.
I don't think anything is accidental.
I think that when he goes too far and then gets slapped on the wrist, you know, it's all part of the revelation of the method.
By the way, it's novus ordo seclorum.
That's it.
And I didn't know what seclorum means, but it means of the ages.
Yeah.
Obviously novus order.
So a new order of the ages.
Yeah.
But then I suddenly thought, not long ago, I thought, well, actually, to get the new order, the 33 degree Masons had already worked out that you need Ordo Ab Cow or Chow, however you pronounce it.
So, you know, if they've already said we want this order, the new one, that means you've already decided there's got to be the chaos before the order.
So that's what they're doing.
They're creating the chaos.
And then, you know, they have these fellow travelers, you know, the Marxists, the Islamists, all the other guys just piling in.
Because it's all about destroying our order, about Christianity, you know, life, you know, pursuit of happiness.
That, of course, is the true answer when normies ask, why are they doing it?
I don't understand the motivation.
Why would they try and break the capitalist system?
Surely they're capitalists.
they want prosperity to be, they don't want to.
And you try and explain to them and you get bogged down.
But actually, that is...
That they want chaos.
They want to engineer chaos.
They need it for the new world order.
They need it.
Yeah.
Yeah, they don't want...
Hmm.
What was the other thing that you were going to talk about?
Well, the other thing fits in nicely with what you were saying about UKIP being far-right crazies because that fits into reform again.
Because what I found, I mean, you know, in a way, it's a detail because Farage, you know, wore the mask, got the jab, Tice pushed the jab, Tice pushed the proxy war.
So it's kind of blindingly obvious it's an establishment agenda pusher.
But there's another really juicy piece, I thought, for me, was that their sort of Mr. Brains, Matt Goodwin, was actually not that long ago, a rabid pro-immigration guy.
And he was working with Hope Not Hate.
So Hope Not Hate, another inversion, is the sort of thought police, you know, way back in the day, trying to outlaw anybody that's questioning immigration.
So this thing that came in Prevent a week or so ago, this guy, Nick Loles, his name, Hope Not Hate guy, he was already working with Matt Goodwin in 2012 on this process.
And I actually have a quote.
This is the quote coming out of the work.
So Matt Goodwin, when he was doing that work with Lolas, he did a survey and he classified the right as middle-aged or elderly working class men who lack qualifications and are pessimistic about their lives.
And then Nick Lolas, a bit later on, goes, you know, his job was to say the more we understand about the extreme right, so he's taking the data from Matt Goodwin, be it BNP, be it UKIP, be it EDL, the easier it is for groups like ourselves to campaign against them.
So it was like a double act.
Matt Goodwin generates the data and all those surveys.
Nick Lowell's from Hope, Not Hate, then uses that to basically lawfare out of existence people who question immigration.
And Matt Goodwin back then was smearing UKIP of all places run by Farage in The Guardian saying, oh, these guys are far more right-wing than they acknowledge.
And so again, it's an inversion.
So he's gone from that to being the brains behind reform and standing up at the podium in reform going, we've had enough, these bloody foreigners, get them out of here.
He's really smearing foreigners, you know, like rapists.
And he's using this NLP to sort of associate words like rapist, foreigner, child rape, you know, all the hot button stuff.
And he's radicalizing the reform crowd.
So it's like the transition is literally beyond belief.
I know you like things like this, but there's all kinds of finger-handed signals going on when he's doing it as well.
Is there really?
Yeah, I can tell you I'm kind of so far into this now, there's no way back.
But there's a proper...
Hang on, where are they?
Let me get that.
Yeah, it wouldn't.
Yeah, when he, in one debate where he said, vote for Raj, he does that.
Vote for Raj, and then he puts his hands back down again.
Really?
Yeah.
That's the devil, isn't it?
That's the.
Well, it's a sign.
I don't know what it is, but it's clearly conscious sign, and it's deliberate.
You don't do that with both hands and tongs.
You don't want to make that sound by accident.
You don't do it by accident on both hands at the same time.
So, you know, again, what are your conclusions?
Like, either this guy's had an epiphany and he's realized he was totally wrong, like 10 years ago, not just slightly wrong, but totally wrong, and he's done a complete, or the whole thing is part of reform just being a psyop, which is what we said at the beginning.
And he's still the guy he always was.
And he's just essentially fifth columning, you know, as now the radical, you know, we hate these immigrants.
And in reality, he's still the globalist no-border leftist that he was.
you know I've and I've About sort of three or four years ago, well, do you remember the beginning of the during during the whole COVID nonsense, a broad resistance movement developed,
which was expressed in particularly in the London marches, which were very well attended and they were great fun.
And I went to quite a few of them and all sorts.
I found myself with Loza Fox and various characters.
And I remember the mood of the time.
Did you go on those marches?
Yeah.
It's amazing.
It was tangible.
You could feel the, you know, the positivity was off the scale.
I will never forget those marches.
It was extraordinary.
So many of us were waking up for the first time and it felt like we'd finally found our people, our community.
That all our old friends who didn't get it, they weren't as special as these strangers that were best friends would never.
Totally.
And that was the period where the enemy infiltrated our ranks.
They knew there was going to be a resistance.
Of course they did.
They wargamed it at event 201.
They knew there was going to be a rump, which is not going to happen.
I think they think it was much more than it was in reality.
I think they were kind of pleasantly surprised at virtually nothing in the grand scheme of things.
What do you mean?
Well, it wasn't much, was it?
I mean, there was us, but there was no radical fight back at all against lockdown or anything.
Even the vaccine mandate.
So it's just, again, it's the thin blue line trying to hold away this tyranny.
It's not much.
23% have had no jabs, something like that.
Yeah, yeah.
That's quite a given thing.
given that we were subjected to a military grade.
So, yeah.
So, yeah.
I'm thinking.
England is not the England it was, right?
And Hitchens said that.
You know, people just gave up their liberty like it was a used cigarette, basically.
But Hitchens, of course, is a change agent himself.
Yeah.
He will go only so far, you know, but he's brilliant with the logic.
You know, his logic is flawless.
And I love listening to him and reading his stuff.
But he won't cross the line of like, oh, okay, now let's do something.
That's like, no, no, no, no, no.
Because imagine what he could do.
Imagine the, you know, our thing now, trying to get these, some action against this, prevent insanity.
He could really add all the value.
And that's actually another tell of reform is that they never, as far as I know, ever cooperate with any grassroots operation trying to stop things.
They just, nobody I know has ever really dealt with any of them.
So, you know, if you've got a massive platform and other people have been campaigning on the same issues, you reach out.
Never happens with reform.
Yes, no.
They've never lifted a finger to help anyone as far as they're on sign.
They're fake.
But I remember the various, we all thought we were in the same team for a period.
And I'd occasionally ask people who I should have on my podcast.
And one of the names that kept being put forward was Matt Goodwin.
Yeah, and Matt Goodwin's really interesting.
I think he's one of those, whatever you want to call him.
He's been inserted into our system.
He's a bad actor.
Totally.
And it's good to have it confirmed from you.
Yeah, you don't make occult symbols.
You don't do this massive switcheroo where you suddenly go from massively pro-immigration to kick them all out.
And also, his positioning within the media, I mean, I think he's often, he's the kind of go-to cephalogical commentator, isn't he?
He explains what's going on.
Well, if you've got the person who's explaining what's going on is part of the lie machine, then that wouldn't.
I'm not your friend.
I'm outside politics and I can assess what's really happening.
No, you're not, mate.
Again, you know, you'd think this is where I come back to The Guardian, because if The Guardian was ever going to take a proper swipe at reform, they would point out this guy's complete dishonesty in, you know, being a sort of leftist academic attacking UKIP and doing all these crazy surveys and smearing anyone vaguely right-wing.
In fact, I mean, some of it's so incredible.
I mean, one thing he complained about was they did a survey question was like, would you be prepared to take up arms in order to protect your way of life?
And some people said yes.
And that was like, look at these crazies.
They're potential terrorists.
And it was like, well, everybody should be prepared to take up arms to protect their way of life.
It's like, I'm disappointed there's people that said no to that question.
But they were complaining that, oh, the percentage In the BNP is slightly higher than in UKIP or something.
That was their analysis.
And the fact that anyone said yes was their problem.
That was his beef.
And again, it's like it goes back to the big play: these globalists know that patriotism is potentially the only force that can actually get organized and stand together and say, that's it, boys, you're going no further.
And so they have to destroy it.
And then we get to the next provocateur, which is Tommy Robinson, another guy from off the shelf to also misdirect people.
I wonder whether he was ever good.
I think he was, to be honest.
But you never know, right?
You never know.
I've always liked him.
I did about, in the early days, I did about four, five podcasts with him.
I had lunch and I thought he was an honest geezer.
But I think he's been co-opted.
You think he's been co-opted?
I mean, they oppressed him.
I'm sure they really oppressed him badly.
And then, you know, I'm sure that the conversation is, okay, look, mate, this is it.
You know, you do this, like, Israel's great.
We need a regime change in Iran and, you know, and whatever, whatever.
You're the guy.
And we'll leave you alone, basically.
And we'll look after you, by the way.
You can do these fancy holidays and fly around and all this stuff.
But every now and again, you go to a kind of prison thing or whatever.
I think that's the deal.
Or else we're going to keep like they were if it was genuinely oppression that he describes, they would have oppressed him to death for sure.
Yeah.
So yeah.
Are you going to tell me the story about how you met Putin?
I can do, yeah, because that in a way makes me think he's certainly based in the way that Western politicians are.
So I was in Moscow and I got into this government round table.
When?
This would have been probably 15 years ago or something.
Right.
So it was a Russian-Finnish government round table.
So it was invites only.
So it was kind of, it wasn't like a big public hearing.
And there was no questions.
And we had an issue to deal with in one of our investments that we couldn't get to the power system because we were being racketeered.
Access to the power grid is a big racket.
You pay huge amounts of cash to get access to the power grid.
And Putin was talking about investment.
And the guy next to me said, you've got to say something to him because this is our only chance ever in our history, in our lives.
We're going to be so close.
And there's at least a chance.
So I actually pointed to him, you know, and I pointed.
I said, I did this.
I said, you know, and can you imagine like a Western politician would just like, just blank you and, you know, get rid of that guy.
Putin said, and Putin just went, I said, yeah, yeah, I want to talk to you.
And he's, he cool, he just said, give that guy a mic.
So I took the mic and I, you know, I said, President Putin, you know, Yada, it's great and everything you're doing is great.
But, you know, this is the issue.
I said, the electricity in Russia is where I'm sitting is people on the left of me are getting electricity and people on the right of me are getting electricity and I'm sitting without electricity.
And it's a Russian joke.
When you say something goes off to the left, it's stolen.
And he said, oh, going off to the left, you know, that happens in Russia.
But going off to the right, that's a real, that's, that's too much already.
So Alex, you know, this will be fixed.
And guess what?
It was fixed.
Like probably three weeks after that, we, we didn't, no bribes, nothing.
We just got connected to the power grid.
So.
Whoa.
You're connected, Alex.
I'm impressed.
Well, yeah, well, to electricity.
Yeah, quite.
But I mean, I think the thing with, you know, the thing with him is he was spaced enough to say, just give that guy a mic.
No Western politicians ever, it's all scripted, it's all PR'd, it's all, you know, planted questions, all choreographed, all theater.
You know, Putin will take, he will handle real people and do real things.
I'd really love to be I'd really love to believe that Putin was going to be the guy who rescued us from all this.
And secretly, President Xi of China also had this plan to free us from this tyrannical, satanic Western dynamic.
Yeah, but the things they want tyranny, but they want to be at the top of their tyranny.
They don't want to be a middleman at the bottom of a sort of Rochard Kissinger deep state Washington tyranny.
That's all they're fighting about, I think.
I don't know.
I think I could be on the next level.
I could be the exploding head man in the meme, whereas you're the one below.
Yeah, yeah.
Where do you stop, though?
Because let's say they're all dark forces, of course.
That's the starting point.
So if you go from dark forces, they're all connected.
So that's just a question of how many levels do you go down and say, okay, this level is definitely separate.
They're all in it together and they're all working for the devil.
Yeah.
Well, I think to some extent they all have to be.
Yeah.
But whether they're all in it together.
I think they're clans.
My theory is they're clans and that's a different clan.
Well, it'd be nice to think there was a goodie clan.
Well, again, it's not, I don't say they're goodies.
I'm saying they're nationalists, so they don't want to be part of one global clan.
They want their own kind of clan.
That's all this is.
It's turf war.
I would definitely rather have Tolstoy as my national novelist than Dickens.
So on that front at least, I'm really go Ruskies.
Go Ruskies.
You've got Tolstoy and Dostoevsky.
Dickens.
Simon Callow and Stephen Fry love Dickens, don't they?
No, but I read it at a certain age and I was very impressionable and it really just hit really hard.
I can't, I'll never go back I think that's I feel like something.
Not a pervert exactly, but I do worry there's something missing in me.
Whereas I really like Hardy.
I really like Hardy.
Hardy's the best.
Oh, man.
I cry less than one of those books.
Isn't that your favourite book?
I think the Stonemason one, Jude the Obscure, I think it completely wiped me out.
That's what I mean.
That's my favourite Hardy scene, Done Because We Are Too Many.
Yeah, yeah.
Where the child kills all the other children.
Actually, they all kill themselves.
Yeah, I don't remember what it is, but I just completely flawed.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Right.
Well, I haven't had any breakfast yet.
I've been trying to cure my ongoing health problems.
And I was having sort of brief intermittent fast.
But I think I'm sort of ready for something to eat now.
Okay, good.
Alex, is there anything else you want to tell me?
Joe, what terms were you going to do?
No, I mean, I think, you know, for people listening, it's really, you know, the coalface is where we need a lot of help.
So all these organic grassroots organizations that no one's ever heard of that get no coverage, that get no money, and they don't get money because they put all these fifth columnists in to make sure they're all destroyed and all the oxygen goes away.
You know, those organizations and ours, we need like help essentially, like, you know, donations or volunteering time or even just like writing in and saying, keep doing what you're doing.
Because it's a very thin line of like actually fighting that system.
There's quite a lot of like complaints how bad it is.
Okay, we all get that, but it's like we have to actually engage and enter into this paper-bushing, legalistic stuff, because otherwise it's game over.
Well, your organization hasn't been infiltrated?
I mean, I don't think so because I took volunteers in when you actually announced it on your first program and we're still together.
And yeah, there was one person who started going on about 5G when it was like completely not what we wanted to do.
But I think she was a genuine 5G person.
She was right.
But otherwise, we're all the same people.
Yeah.
She was right about 5G.
I'm sure she was, but it was like, this is not, you know, if you get a small organization that goes off topic, it's dead.
So it's like, and she just kept going on about it.
It's like, look, we're not doing 5G.
So just you have to go somewhere else.
You should say we're not doing 5G yet is what you should.
That would have been, if I'd been using my tact and people skills.
So Alex, where can people find your organization?
How can they support you?
How can they support you, etc?
Yeah, so we're thinkingcoalition.org.
And if anyone's out there who's kind of interested in getting involved, and we have all kinds of people from all kinds of different backgrounds, it's info at thinkingcoalition.org.
And a lot of what we talk about is in substacks.
That's thinkingcoalition.substack.com.
And I'm going to put up today, I'm going to do expose the method this week.
So I'm going to do this is how a Bolshevik Takeover Works in very simple terms, bullet points.
And I'm going to show you that's what's going on.
And I'm going to say we need to oppose that through this interacting with the system through grassroots, you know, single issue, whatever you call them, single issue groups.
And then also I've got telegram t.me thinking slow.
But the main ones are read the substack articles because I think they're pretty decent.
And it's exposing the method and making positive suggestions about how we stop this because we have to fight this.
Otherwise, we're in big trouble.
Because I also get annoyed a little bit with the sort of fatalistic God's will kind of idea that this is it.
We just have to sit it out.
It's like, no, no, I mean, if you sit it out, it's just going to get a whole lot worse.
So you can't sit this out.
There's no sitting it out.
I agree.
No, I don't really think we should sit it out.
I think we do what we can.
So thank you for the work you're doing.
And please, everybody, support Alex.
Sounds good.
I like your letters and things too.
Deal with these people.
Use their system against them.
Thank you, Alex Creel, of Thinking Slow.
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