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You were very popular.
I'm sure you expected me to tell you this, but you were a very popular guest.
Not as popular as the...
Do you know, I think my biggest, my most successful podcast was with that guy who looks like a kind of a bank robber who's retired to the Costa.
The one who talks about Nassara Jassara.
I mean, that was huge.
It got, like, loads of...
I forget his name.
But I'd say you're probably more of a credible witness.
Yeah.
What do I say to that?
What sort of introduction is that?
Oh, I don't know.
Did you expect anything else from me, Brian?
No, not really, no.
No, exactly.
No.
Well, it was a compliment.
It was actually a genuine compliment.
You were very popular.
There was various unfinished business that I didn't, all sorts of questions that I didn't ask you last episode.
I don't think I even asked you, so I'm going to ask you now, What do you think of, forgive my German pronunciation, but of Das Boot?
Is it one of your favourite films?
I've watched it a couple of times and I think it is a good film because I think from...
I suppose what I know from my historical military reading and documentaries and things I've watched on YouTube and elsewhere, coupled with some practical knowledge inside the military itself,
In that I did a couple of short trips on board submarines, nothing very long, but yeah, I've been on board a submarine and been submerged and I know how the principle of the thing works.
And yeah, I think Das Boat is a pretty accurate and certainly very emotional film.
Yeah, I think it's up there with my favourite war movies.
I think it's really good.
See, the submarine you went on, was it one of those submarines with a Polaris missile on it?
I mean, with a nuclear missile?
No, I've only been on board one of what they call the bombers, the long-range ballistic missile boats, when it was alongside.
And that was actually HMS Vanguard, which had moved on to the Trident missiles.
Yeah, but same idea.
So, yes, I've been on one of those boats in harbour.
I've never done any...
The trouble with them is if you go on board, you're likely to end up on a patrol, which is going to be months.
And they don't take...
If you like, unclassified visitors.
So I did one very short trip in a conventional submarine and I did one very short trip in a nuclear submarine.
But I've got to say I enjoyed both of them.
I found it fascinating.
Do you share my suspicions?
And I don't even know whether you'd be allowed to say this.
I mean, presumably, are you subject to the Official Secrets Act or anything like that?
I'm afraid I'm not allowed to confirm or deny that.
Are you serious?
I am being serious, yeah.
That is extraordinary.
Well, I'm giving you an honest answer.
No, no, no.
I'm not dissing you, Brian.
It's interesting that that is the state of affairs.
And it renders my next question slightly redundant, which I was going to ask you.
Can you see this all coming?
Maybe not.
I would say, let's have a bit of fun.
This is absolutely true.
I should be...
Out of the signed period of the Official Secrets Act from my time in the military.
But when I tried to, when I'd been outside the military for a while, well, why not?
When I'd been outside of the military for a while and I was challenging the state at what I regarded as subversion going on, In order to try and discuss matters, I ended up being ensnared by the Official Secrets Act again.
Really?
You mean you've got a kind of a phone call kind of thing?
Well, no.
I was sat down with an individual.
Let's say...
I wanted to report a crime and the crime involved, as far as I was concerned, the military.
And in order to be discussing that sort of thing, I had to be back under the Act.
Right.
Sorry to interrupt.
This is where the thing is such a disgraceful thing, because, of course, what it was principally being used for, in my case, was not to protect national secrets.
It was to give the state power to try and silence me on speaking out on various things.
Yes.
Were I to have that information, were I to have asked the same questions, they couldn't try that trick on me, could they?
So they're just using your past military experience as a kind of gagging thing.
Well, it all came down to the fact that I was absolutely challenging some of the stuff going on around the military, which I knew was not correct.
You've hit me with this, and I'm thinking, yeah, maybe there's a time coming up to actually talk about some of this in more detail.
But I've given you the honest answer.
I honestly didn't want to spring anything on you.
I don't like wrong footing, my guests.
I want them to feel comfortable and happy, because I think comfortable, happy people...
Are much more interesting than people who have to be guarded.
So please don't fear you have to be on your guard with me.
The thing I'm really keen to talk about is your excellent series that you did with Debbie Evans on the Green King.
Because it's quite interesting that After your last appearance, you know, there are lots of people who are saying, yeah, UK column.
Brian Gerrish, he's great.
And there was a sort of, I don't know, maybe 5% who came up with the thing about, oh yeah, I don't trust UK column, I don't trust Brian Gerrish, ex-military, you know.
I mean, I get that, a version of that with me, although my version is, you know, he went to an establishment university and he was mates with all the...
You know, with Johnson and Cameron and how can he be trusted because he's kind of...
I've mistaken him for being a toff even though I'm not, you know, that kind of thing.
But I thought that you went pretty far down the rabbit hole and made up, may I say, for your lamentable failure to deal with chemtrails, which I still wish you would.
Come on, come on.
There's lots of heat, isn't it?
Let's take a little digression.
There's a lot of heat at the moment about subjects.
And the thing which I would gently ask a lot of, let's say, of your audience to think about is that informed people...
So that's people, we use the expression, who have woken up and they've probably done quite a lot of research and they've started to watch a lot of other people who've done a lot of research.
And therefore they know a lot.
And they make an assumption that because they know a lot, the important thing is to tell the wider public audience about everything.
But the reality is that the wider public audience at the moment are absolutely struggling.
They are desperately struggling to try and understand what's going on around them at a very simplistic level.
And throwing every theory and every possibility and every maybe at them does not help at all.
It doesn't help them wake up.
It doesn't help them have the courage to stand up and research themselves.
So our response on the subject to chemtrails is clearly something's going on.
But if you look in the sky and see a trail, What is it?
Because we know there are such a thing as condensation trails.
We know there's such a thing as geoengineering.
We know it's been taken place that aircraft are spraying.
We know that there are special effects that we're seeing due to the composition of aircraft aviation fuels.
But if you see an aircraft and there's a trail, what is that aircraft doing?
You can't make a generalized statement and say, oh my goodness, it's part of geoengineering, unless you can actually prove what that aircraft has on board and what it's doing in the sky.
And the problem is that people want to launch onto this subject about chemtrails But is that actually the most important thing for us to be talking about?
We don't.
And we think, why do we need to talk about it when there's lots of other people talking about it?
Yeah, me for example.
Well, whoever.
But then if we start talking about chemtrails, we'll get somebody who comes up and says, oh, well, the trouble is that you're not talking about viruses.
You've got to be telling the world there's no such thing as a virus.
But if we, as a measured calculating, and I mean that in a nice way, we're thinking about what we're doing.
We want to engage professionals in the medical field, for example.
It's best to start off on things that you can get them to react to and talk about.
And it doesn't automatically work that you launch in and tell them that everything they've been trained in for their whole life is wrong.
This does not win friends and it doesn't necessarily bring people closer to you.
Well, I'm going to, because I love you, Brian, I'm going to forgive you for essentially dissing my brand.
Because, of course, that's exactly what I did.
No, no, no, come on, come on.
I know you didn't mean that.
You didn't mean that at all.
No, no, but this is my point, you see.
I'm not saying nobody else can talk about it.
I'm saying the exact opposite of Because other people talk about these things, we think, no, we're going to concentrate on the areas we think are important.
And I don't want to go into all the grisly details, but there's a lot of people and a few leprechauns who are not very happy with me at the moment.
Right?
Because I don't want to discuss certain subjects.
And I say, you go away and discuss those subjects.
You talk about it.
I've got enough on my plate trying to wake the population up to the fact that their children can be lifted from them and taken never to be seen again.
That's more important to me than talking about chemtrails.
That doesn't mean to say I disrespect anybody who wants to talk about chemtrails.
Yes.
Yes.
No, that was what really impressed me about our last conversation.
It's that you're clearly very, very awake on the subject of maybe the worst of all the conspiracies against us.
The abduction and torture and murder and adrenochrome extraction and ritual satanic abuse.
All the things that actually happen are happening now as people are listening to this podcast or watching this podcast.
And quite a lot of people, even people, awake people, Want to sort of compartmentalize it, almost to the point of denying that it actually exists, because it's so unpleasant.
Yeah, so they'd rather go down the fun stuff.
They'd rather get excited about chemtrails.
They'd rather be talking about false flag incidents.
They'd rather be talking about all these things.
And I say, fine, go away and talk about those things.
But actually, for me, they're not the most important.
Yeah, yeah.
Which brings us neatly on to the subject of King Charles.
Now, how many parts are there in your series on the Green King?
Is it six so far?
Yeah, but there's a lot more to come and there's also going to be some written material.
Coming on this subject.
You've come up with this.
I commend to my viewers and listeners this series on the UK Column site.
By the way, I should have mentioned, those who don't know, Brian is the host, one of the hosts at UK Column, which is...
I think you must be the leading...
How would you describe yourself?
Alternative, alternative.
We'd never say leading, but we have been around for a long time.
How about that?
How many people watch you, would you say?
We have no idea.
And of course, we've been kicked off YouTube again, so statistics on YouTube viewings have disappeared.
The...
The times that you say, well, it's interesting is web statistics will say that the bulk of our audience is UK, but we get a lot from the States and the Commonwealth.
But then you get all sorts of other places like Turkey and Indonesia and places that you wouldn't expect to be watching us.
So somebody might email us.
And a little story which still amuses me is that I'll say a relation of mine who lives in Cornwall was intrigued that their local vicar was paying attention to the UK column.
So that's all in Cornwall, but where did the local vicar hear about the UK column from relatives in America?
When you have a few of those sorts of little strange coincidences, you think, well, maybe there's quite a few people watching us, but the reality is I have no idea.
No.
And think how much bigger the audience would be if it wasn't suppressed.
I'm sure you're heavily...
Well, I mean, you know, we went through, when Debbie and I were doing The Green King, we started off doing those episodes on No Smoke Without Fire.
We started off doing those episodes on YouTube, just very informally.
And I think we were up to sort of 70,000 views without any sort of problem.
um on that but at the same time when we were still have the uk column going out on youtube we mike and i usually would be in the morning when we just come into the studio we would see the viewing count go down i've watched that many times yeah yeah so yeah um you dropped the on the first the first of the episodes You dropped in a few truth bombs.
I mean, this is all in the public domain.
Absolutely.
But I was astonished to hear, to learn, that King Charles, as we must learn to call him, was circumcised by a Jewish, by a rabbi.
Which is...
What?!
Yeah.
Well, interesting, isn't it?
And I must say, you're interviewing me, and I'm happy to talk on this subject, but credit has to go to Debbie Evans, because Debbie Evans did the overwhelming lion's share of the research.
So if you really want to get into some of this...
I'm going to get her on to talk about this.
So you can cover some of it, and then I'll do Debbie for the deeper Debbie dive and the mopping up.
But just to give the girl credit, she's done some really superb work.
But yes, that's the case.
When you start to discover a lot of little things about the royal family, it starts to change the whole picture.
And for me, the coronation I just found incredible because I watched it and I watched all the pomp and ceremony from a very detached and Interested way.
And I'm thinking just what is going on here?
And then later when I was in contact with Debbie, well, we were discussing various things and she reeled off a load of stuff.
And then you say, yeah, what's all this about?
Did you?
I bet you did.
I certainly did.
Did you go through a phase where you were a royalist, a monarchist and all that?
I still am a monarchist.
I just believe that we've got the wrong beings, the wrong human beings in post.
I think there's a lot of good can come out of a monarchy where the monarch is there for the benefit of a nation state and they're going to be there as looking after the nation and the inhabitants and communities and also keeping a check on the power base of parliament.
Well, yes, but that's, I mean, if I may say so, that's quite a kind of a normie perspective.
I mean, that's how I was brought up.
But it's the people, isn't it, James?
It's the people is the issue.
If we had a person who was king, who was good, let's say intelligent, we hope it's intelligent, intelligent, good, moral, upstanding, law-abiding, told the truth.
Would this country be in the mess it is?
I totally get the theory, but I'm currently reading I, Claudius, about the kind of...
Augustus' dynasty.
And Augustus was rated as one of the better Rome...
I mean, you know, the Augustan age, the golden age of Rome.
So peak civilisation was under this guy, and look who followed him.
Nero, Caligula, Tiberius.
Exactly.
So it's all very well saying, yeah, what we need is a really enlightened Caesar, somebody who can rule us like Augustus.
They don't turn up.
It's a pipe dream, what you're talking about.
Turn up is the wrong expression.
You see, the real problem is that we, because it's the fault of all of us, we have allowed society to absolutely run amok with what people are taught, what they learn, what they think the right standard of behaviour is.
So we are getting the people...
In control of us running the country that we deserve, because we've allowed this stuff to happen.
I sort of don't buy that, that it's our fault, argument, because I think it's a bit like...
I can't join.
There's a certain kind of rather vindictive, if I may say, awake person who gloats about all the idiots who took the death jab and how they've got it all coming to them.
You know, they took it.
They deserve it.
And I always say, no, these people took those death jabs under a false prospectus.
They weren't informed.
They weren't giving their informed consent.
And in the same way, I think that applies to the realm of politics.
We are not giving our informed consent because most people don't understand how corrupted our political system is.
most people don't understand how corrupted our royal institution is and we're not talking just prince charles i mean are you are you you going to tell me that the queen the queenie was all right you think she was a she was she was a goodie no i i i i think the queen was um Do I think about the Queen?
She was a druid?
Well, was she a druid when she was a young woman?
I find it very interesting when you look at the faces of people as they were and then later what they became.
And when you look at Elizabeth's face when she was a young teenage girl or a young woman, I'm not talking about her attractiveness.
I'm talking about, did she have a face with warmth and kindness in it?
And I think she did.
But then as time goes on, that changes.
And of course, she was in a horrific environment.
And who knows what pressures were put on her.
But when you say it's just down to being informed, some of it isn't because some of it's to do with what's inside us.
The difference between right and wrong.
We have inside ourselves an inherent measure of what's right and wrong.
And many people have been encouraged, they've been led astray to get involved and to support things which are clearly wrong.
And that's not the same as being ill-informed.
That's a lack of morality.
And we're all guilty of it because we've all been in situations where we should have spoken out and we didn't or we've allowed ourselves to do something which actually we know we shouldn't do.
Yeah.
Again, I would contend that It's often out of people's hands.
I mean, at the moment, I'm writing my Christian book, musing on the growth of my sort of Christian worldview.
And I look back to the 1970s, or even actually the late 60s, when I would have been very, very small, and Everyone who went to school in those days, you had a school assembly and you sang all things bright and beautiful and Christian songs like that.
And you were instilled with a Christian morality and you recognized that you were living within a Christian culture.
And look, I'm not arguing that we should have Christian assemblies now brought back to schools because it's too late, I think.
People wouldn't understand them.
People haven't got the equipment to...
Come on, James, you can't get away with that.
What?
This is a key part, isn't it?
That if we believe that fundamental teachings, let's do some love you, God, love one another.
Yeah.
Tell the truth.
Just take those three.
We'd be in a much better place if we'd stuck with those principles.
We'd still be in a better place.
Now, who's not teaching those principles?
Church of England's not teaching those principles.
Right?
So the Christian community goes into churches Previously run by an Archbishop of Canterbury that hadn't been very truthful about the abuse of children.
And they're not interested.
They don't react to it.
They walk through those doors and sing the songs and then they come out.
They have no idea about what the Church of England's really been involved in.
They have no idea on the need to be astute spiritually into a battle between good and evil.
They just exist.
We're not going to disagree about that.
I suppose what I'm...
What am I saying?
I'm saying that...
Actually, do you know what I was going to say to you?
I'm not sure...
Whether you're quite as far down the rabbit hole as me, you obviously grasp the things like ritual satanic abuse, but are you...
Do you acknowledge the scale of it?
I mean, particularly, not just in kind of corrupt sort of local politicians, but are you aware of the extent to which it permeates Hollywood and the nobility, the royal houses of Europe?
The music industry.
That it is the currency.
Children are the currency.
That children are sacrificed regularly.
That adrenochrome is the drug of choice.
I think we've got to be a little bit careful here because, well, I have said for a very long time that child abuse is important because There are only two things that are now not permitted.
One is murder.
That's a bit difficult to cover up.
And the other one is abuse of children.
So abuse of children is the absolute tool for blackmail wherever, in government, in the royalty, wherever you want pressure to be brought on people.
I mean, you look at what people can do now, and it's apparently acceptable.
They can, well, drink doesn't even figure.
They can be on drugs.
They can commit adultery.
They can have multiple sexual partners.
They can have multiple partners by the sex.
MPs can use rent boys.
It's all acceptable, but child abuse isn't.
So child abuse Is the logical weapon of control.
But on the subject of ritualistic stuff, do I know it goes on?
Absolutely.
Do I think it's much more widespread than the average member of the population would believe?
Yeah.
But when you talk about, correct me, that we know that all these people are involved with it, one of the key problems is at the moment, we don't know.
We get indications, we have evidence which leads us to believe that it's on such and such a scale.
And I'm happy to go down that and I'm happy to explore what's at the end of it.
But something that's absolutely key with what we do is we've got to stick with evidence.
Well, you have.
I mean, if I may say so.
Look, you and I represent different...
We're not quite poles.
We're not polar opposites.
But what you are doing is what I call...
You didn't provide an affidavit signed in triplicate by lawyers' argument, which is because there is insufficient evidence that would stand up in a court of law, Therefore, I won't go there.
Whereas I'm thinking, actually, no, there's enough, there have been enough whistleblowers from people who've acted as bag men to the Illuminati, you know, the kind of fixers, to people who've escaped the Rich or satanic abuse,
a guy that I haven't yet had on my podcast, but a guy called Nathan Reynolds from the Reynolds tobacco family, who used to be a kind of Illuminati hitman and do things like, oh, what is it?
Not astral projection, where you can remote viewing and stuff.
Now, I can see that this stuff would be slightly off-brand for UK column because you've got a kind of A reputation of gravitas.
You want people to come away from UK Column and go, yeah, that was a very solid investigation.
Even a normie could have watched this and come away thinking these people have got evidence.
But I'm kind of more interested in what you personally think.
I mean, do you have suspicions that go beyond what you would say on UK Column?
Do I believe that ritualistic abuse exists?
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Do I believe that it's happening across the spectrum of society, from political to pop stars?
Absolutely.
Without question.
And we're getting some strong evidence coming forward suggesting that the scale of it is way beyond what many people would consider.
Yeah, I do believe that.
I mean, where are you on Ted Heath, for example?
Well...
What can I give you?
I had the opportunity to sit down with, I can't remember how many there were, two or three officers from the team who were investigating Ted.
And they said to me, the moment I say that, that's hearsay, but was I in the room?
Was I speaking directly to some of those officers?
Yeah.
They said, well, basically, you know, the evidence we had against Ted Heath meant that were he to be around, he'd be in front of the court.
And they were talking about some very, very strange stuff.
What?
Up to and including having sex with rent boys and then tossing them over the bodies?
Well, let's just say ritualistic.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then look at what happened to the...
What was his name?
The chief constable he was investigating, Mike Veal, has had his career and his life ripped apart ever since.
Yeah.
And that, of course, is also a tactic of the sorts of things that people involved in the darker arts get involved in.
Yes, exactly.
So I... I totally respect...
We need people like Brian Gerrish and UK Column because I recognise that I'm on one of the...
I'm sort of towards the outer fringes of...
I really don't care if people think I'm batshit crazy.
I absolutely do not mind one bit.
And it's not because...
I am batshit crazy.
It's because I feel no need to be cautious about anything.
I just say what I think and wherever the truth leads me, however bizarre, I'll go there.
This is why I'd say we're in a big world and there's room for all sorts of approaches.
But But just because from time to time there's flack on the UK column, the UK column won't talk about this and we won't talk about that.
Our policy has been if we're talking about stuff, we want to be accurate.
We want to be measured.
We want to be staying accurate.
We want to be giving out enough information that people who aren't awake, who come and take some information from us, don't go away and then find out, well, actually, it wasn't quite right because there's no point in us being there if we do that.
I agree with that.
You're flying a bit more by the seat of your pants and you're probably a bit more entertaining than we are, but that's fine.
Can I say, I really agree with you on the subject of Sort of semi-normies and normies spotting a mistake you've made and therefore throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
It's one of the worst things that our side can do is relay false information.
And of course you know and I know that our enemies plant false information.
In order for us to relay it and then to expose this information as fault and make us look stupid and to kind of tarnish all our acrobat.
There's probably some kind of intelligence name for this term, isn't there?
Well, misinformation and disinformation is really what we're talking about here.
And of course, you know, we've got that awful organisation, full fact, which we prefer to call faux facts because they are so appalling.
And then we've got Marianna Spring and the BBC's fact checking.
They're doing no such thing.
So yeah, the state is now running a huge apparatus to get onto social media and stir up, I'm not allowed to use any bad words, stir up, you know, trouble.
Yes.
And therefore, if people...
Go too far off what is factual and evidence-based.
The state simply picks it up and stirs the pot.
And the 98% of the population who are still asleep just don't want to go near the information that good alternative media is putting out.
Yes.
I think I'm for people who've been prepared by UK Column.
I'm kind of the next step.
Once you've been exposed to UK Column for a while, you come to the Delling pod...
Yeah, this is true.
This goes on.
It's the next level stuff.
Right.
I had a gritty communication from some man in Australia, and there was the midst of a cesspit of stuff going on.
And he said, yeah, well, the thing was, Brian, you woke me up with what the whole nudge thing was about during lockdown.
But I've moved on from there, and now you're superfluous, right?
Well, he was sending that, and so he called himself something retardia.
I can't remember what the first word was, so I communicated back and just called him retardia, which seemed to be more appropriate.
But basically, he was unknowingly telling it like it was.
He was giving me a compliment that you guys woke me up.
And then once he'd woken up, because we are still pumping out in this middle of the road stuff where we're off to the bulk of the population who are not awake, he's all cocky because he thinks he knows more than we do.
I think what you are, Brian, is you're Mrs. Brian's Riding Academy.
And what you do is you take them through the walk, rising trot, canter, and then you take them over a few jumps.
And then when they've done that, when they've learned the basics, then they move on to Dellingpole's Circus of Insanity, where we do the advanced stuff like jumping over...
But you do something else, which I think is an important thing.
And there are several other people who are effectively doing this, that you're putting factual information across, but you're doing a lot of it in a very light-hearted way.
So you have an entertainment experience.
You have quite a large entertainment tag to what you do.
So we're laughing and we're joking.
You've taken me from submarines to satanic abuse.
That's not bad in about 20 minutes, right?
It's because I'm a very naughty boy.
But we're still laughing.
And so what we've got going on here is we're educating people, we're informing them, I hope, but we're still doing it in a very light-hearted way.
And people need light-hearted stuff at the moment because some of them are in a very bad mental place.
All this stuff is coming at them and they need something to take the heat off.
So a mix of serious...
And going down a few rabbit holes, I don't think is a bad thing.
Yes.
I'm very touched when I... Some people come up to me and say, you've got no idea, I felt so alone.
And you've made me feel like I'm not weird and somebody else shares my understanding of things.
And I imagine you get that a lot as well.
Well, we do.
And the best example of it was when we attended the two camping festival events.
That was the light up in Cumbria and then the music one in, where was that?
Dorset.
People would come up to us and they would say, can I give you a hug?
Because you kept me sane.
And this was a lot of people.
And they often ask, can I have a selfie as well?
But there were a couple of people who said, can I give you a hug?
Because I think I'm still here because of what you did.
And what they were implying was that they considered suicide.
Yes.
Yes, which is not a good...
No, it is nice to be able to...
Put people off taking that permanent decision.
Can I just take you back to, because I feel we haven't quite exhausted this point, that inevitably, by nature, there are some subjects so extreme and so secret that the only way you're going to be able to ever Understand a glimmer of the truth is by inference.
For example, the chemtrails one.
If As a lot of us suspect, they're spraying the skies to alter the weather, and they're probably using barium and aluminium and other poisons, and probably they've had this technology available since the 1950s at the very least.
Well, documented from the 1950s, rainmaking, so yeah, absolutely.
And the flooding in Devon, in Linmouth, was it the village that got, you know, 32 people got killed, I think it was.
That was in 952. And then you've got HARP, the HARP facilities, and you've got NEXRAD. If they have the power to do that, It's not going to be in the public domain or it's going to be hidden behind layers which are all but impenetrable.
And the same applies to elite, rich or satanic abuse involving very famous actors and very famous politicians and very famous royals.
Your approach means you're never going to get more than the basic stuff, not the really juicy stuff.
Hang on a minute.
You started off by saying that you were really fascinated by how much information we pushed out on the Green King.
Yes, but I'm pushing you to see how far you're prepared to go.
For example, the Queen.
I think of Kamloops when I think of the Queen.
Okay.
Sorry, just explain that to me.
Do you not know about...
K-A-M-L-O-O-P-S in Canada, the infamous Canada tour, where the children at a special school...
Oh, this was all the Kevin Annette stuff.
Was it?
Possibly.
I... But I mean, do you think there's anything in that one?
Would you countenance it?
Well, I've mentioned a name and a lot of people...
I think it's very sad.
A lot of people have attacked the Canadian man who stepped forward many, many years ago to take up the case of the indigenous Indian population in Canada who said their children disappeared into schools and were abused.
Sorry, their children were in schools, compulsorily put in schools, and then many of those children were abused and many disappeared.
And Kevin Annette spoke out about this, and I met him on more than one occasion.
And I have to say that everything that man told me about his work and his research, I was convinced he was seeing something.
And of course, that was the base for then the more juicy, to use your terminology, stories about children disappearing at schools during the time there was a visit by the Wall family.
Yeah.
Well, I agree that we don't have much to go on with that story.
Inevitably, again, it's going to be well hidden.
But if it is possible that the Queen...
Queen Elizabeth, that is, rather than Camilla, who we now have to get used to calling Queen.
If the Queen was involved in that, it does kind of suggest that this stuff is not limited to King Charles, that it goes back quite some time.
Yeah, but hang on a minute.
The Queen was involved.
The Queen was there.
Who did the dirty deeds?
What were the dirty deeds and who did them?
Did the Queen do them?
Or were they done by other persons around her?
Well...
I mean, she's dead, so I suppose I can't libel her.
Look, 10 years ago, I was like, God bless you, ma'am.
You know, you're a credit to...
But I'm not anymore.
I suspect a lot of them.
Okay.
I've spoken to people who've been involved in this stuff, participated in these rituals, and And if they're to be believed, then they're all in it up to the neck.
Yeah, but if they are to be believed, this is just a little bit where it steps over the line.
Okay.
Actually, I'm teasing you a bit here because I know absolutely what you're talking about, but if we all, across the Let's be really positive.
I think that alternative media has made huge progress over the last five years, even.
I think it's matured.
I think you can see really good interviews and documentaries and reports coming out from all sorts of people.
And it's of an extremely high quality.
To the fact that in many cases it surpasses on the quality terms of the established multi-billion pound media system.
So I think that the alternative media is doing some really good work across the board.
But what the alternative media can't do across the board Is keep making guesses about stuff and then saying this is what's happening.
You have to anchor it.
Somebody has to start anchoring it to fact and evidence, because otherwise we are giving the state exactly what it wants, which is a population who doesn't know or understand what truth is, and they drift around with what they find the most titivating.
I don't know.
You're a Christian.
I'm a Christian.
Not a normal one, though.
You read your Bible.
To a point.
Why do the heathens so furiously rage together?
And why do the people imagine a vain thing?
The kings of the earth stand up and the rulers take counsel against the Lord and against his anointed.
Let us break their bonds asunder.
Let us cast their cords away from us.
He that dwelleth in heaven shall laugh them to scorn.
The Lord shall have them in derision.
That's Psalm 2, which it seems to me lays out the terms.
Now, I'm one of those old-fashioned sorts who actually takes the Bible literally.
I don't think that that psalm is metaphorical.
I think it describes exactly the situation that we're living in now.
I think that the rulers of this world are also the rulers of the darkness of this world, that they're controlled by evil forces.
Therefore, my new understanding of the world is I would put nothing past The people who's from bloodlines, which have, I mean, they've controlled us over generations.
Yeah, it's a spiritual battle.
I completely agree with you.
But I'd also suggest that if you recognise it's a spiritual battle, one of the key things we're told is that truth is amazingly important.
Truth is a weapon, a sword of truth.
Yeah, I get that.
That's truth.
That's not my guess is.
But Brian, your case is slightly being undermined.
The illustration behind you.
Why?
Because an excellent cartoonist, Bob Moran, has given us this wonderful picture.
Are you not familiar with the phrase, it's funny because it's true?
Yeah.
Devised by 33rd degree Mason Matt Groening.
Let me give you this little thing which came to me in the early days.
When you deal with policemen, they're paranoid that you've got to have the evidence.
And in their minds, the evidence is, yeah, I want to be able to prove that he stole the money.
But it's also, I want to have the evidence so I can prove that he stole the money in court.
And so they want everything and they want it tied up and then they put it in a bundle and they put a pink ribbon around it because they've got all the evidence.
In the military, if you're going to fight a battle, you spend a lot of time collecting evidence as to what the enemy is doing so that you can plan what you're going to do on the battlefield and you can also preempt what the enemy is about to do.
But when the military deals with evidence, you build evidence as to what the picture is and what the picture is until you get the point where you say, actually, I think I've got enough to understand and I can't get any more information because if I wait any longer, the enemy is going to attack first and I'm going to lose the battle.
So evidence in the military intelligence sense is always taking you to the maximum you can get where your gut instinct says, yeah, I've got enough.
And that's got a very different nuance on it to the way that police would try and do the evidence.
And I'm going to say that Maybe it's partly because of my background and I played around with that sort of stuff.
But I see the world that we're in at the moment more in that sense that we're collecting evidence.
We've got to collect as much as we can because the evidence represents truth.
But yes, we will be in a situation where we're actually using gut instinct to say, this is what's really happening.
So what I'm gently saying to you there is that you might not appreciate quite how we think, but we are less regimented than you think we are.
I certainly didn't say that I don't appreciate how you think.
I think the opposite of that, actually.
I'm really glad you're there.
Because I need people like you to do that.
To do the heft and bottom thing where I can flit around.
I mean, I suppose, you know what I am?
I'm one of those sort of fancy cavalry squadrons who, you know, got really fancy kit and do dashing things, which are ultimately quite pointless.
And you are, you're the line infantry and you're there fighting.
Have you ever read Defeat into Victory?
No.
By General Slim.
No.
He was probably our best general of the...
A lot of people have some questions around that, gentlemen.
Oh, do they?
So, you see, there I am, sort of relaying a kind of normie talking point.
I thought...
You can correct me if I'm wrong.
My theory on Bill Slim was that he was given the bum job of going out...
Well, this is true.
Yeah, I've probably been unkind, actually.
Maybe people who were close to him at one point.
Oh, okay.
I suppose they all have feet of clay.
I just thought that Bill Slim was...
I'll correct that.
I was thinking slightly in the wrong direction.
I'll say fine, yeah.
Are you retracting?
You think he might have been there, okay, general after all?
No, no.
It's just strange things went on in the East.
Oh, I'm sure.
I'm sure.
Anyway, whether he grew up with strange things or not in his spare time, I don't know.
But Bill Slim...
In his book, Defeat into Victory, at the end there's this postscript and he rails against special forces and against kind of specialised units.
And I think he has this flight of fancy where he talks about having a special unit dedicated to tree climbing or something.
And his argument is, no, what you need to do is train a large body of men to form an efficient fighting force and you win through...
Through sort of weight and momentum.
You don't want sort of fancy specialist units doing...
So you are Bill Slim's ideal army, whereas I'm one of Churchill's ludicrous creations that just, you know...
Right, okay.
I'll accept that compliment.
Even though I hate the idea of being one of Churchill's creations.
So, yes, this is why it was so great when I watched that thing, talking about...
I mean, I know the Jerusalem Post or some similar paper published it, but discovering that the king was circumcised by a rabbi, that somehow, that was just a killer detail that, well, it fuelled all...
Added weight to all number of conspiracy theories, ranging from the one that's very obviously true, which is that, as Charles has repeatedly said when he was Prince of Wales, he wants to be defender of faith rather than defender of the faith.
He wants to be this kind of...
Global religion, one religion, Chinese person, which you and I know, this single religion is one of the goals of the New Age movement, isn't it?
I don't know whether I mentioned it last time with you, but there's a really excellent book.
It's extremely fat, with a lot of footnotes, called One World Religion by a man called Lee Penn.
It's about an inch and a half thick.
And in it, he does a fantastic job of chronically analyzing and putting together a timeline of the creation of the One World Religious System.
And I think that author is spot on in what he's talking about, because the aim is that there won't be different religions, there's only going to be one.
Yes.
I saw Charles quoted as saying that, or it being said of Charles, that he sees great similarities between the world's religions, that therefore, you know, why not bring them all together?
Whereas I think you and I might beg to differ on that.
I don't think they are.
The idea that there's any similarity between, for example, Christianity and the Eastern religions...
They're quite the opposite to one another.
Well, I would say so.
And this is why I watch with fascination the decay of the Christian system in this country, aided and abetted by Prince Charles.
But can you subsume Christianity into other religions?
No, you can't.
Because?
Because it has a completely unique basis and value system.
Inasmuch as that Christianity tells us that we're created in God's image, number one, I suppose.
Well, it also suggests that you need to pay attention to the teachings of Christ.
Yes.
Actually, it's true.
I don't hear that being said in Buddhism or definitely not in Talmudic Judaism.
No.
Which is...
Now, that's a...
I don't even know whether we dare go there, but one of my great eye-openers since going down the rabbit hole is I used to imagine...
I think as most Christians do, that Judaism is like Christianity minus the New Testament.
But it really ain't, is it?
I mean, the state religion of Israel is Talmudic Judaism, which is a very different kettle of fish.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
And I, in recent times, I have also been learning a lot about this.
I've recently done an interview with a man talking about Christian Zionism because I've been fascinated.
Horrified is the correct expression.
I was horrified at some of the communications the UK column had following the events out in the Middle East in October last year.
When people said at the top of an email what a big Christian they were, and then effectively they said, well, it doesn't matter that thousands of men, women and children are being killed because Israel's doing it.
And I thought this is astonishing.
And so I've been on a journey to understand what Christian Zionism is.
And that journey leads me to understand that the whole question, the whole idea of Zionism was created within the Christian movements.
And it was only later that the Jews actually got on board.
So when people are saying, well, Israel must have the state because that's what the Bible says, and you must not criticize Israel or you will go to hell.
That's what Christian told me in an email.
This is all perverse teaching based on what was effectively cult Christian teaching a bit before, but through the 1800s.
It's a phenomenal story.
Now, this has really started to make me feel a lot more comfortable because when I had Christians telling me it was okay to slaughter Palestinians because they were Palestinians and it was Israel doing it, I felt deeply uncomfortable.
And yet I was being told I didn't know my Bible.
But now I'm beginning to learn actually, well, hang on a minute, because you Christians don't understand what Christian Zionism is and where it came from.
You don't understand the difference between Israel, the state of Israel, and what religions are actually part of Israel.
So...
Talmudic systems is in there, but we've also got the Orthodox Jews and a lot of the Jews that don't have any religion at all.
And we need to be very clear what we're talking about.
But most Christians are not in this country because vicars and members of the Church of England are not teaching them about this.
Because they don't know themselves.
Correct.
Yes, which is one of the points you made earlier.
Yeah.
I'll give you that one.
Well, okay, so how, what percentage would you say of the Christian churches believe, what percentage of Christians believe in the kind of the Zionist narrative?
They conflate the Israel and the Bible with...
Out of the dedicated church attending Christians, I'd say 95% of them.
That's a big number.
That's a really big number.
That's just my guesstimate.
That's my personal guesstimate.
But that's how strong I see it is.
Because I've experienced this with people I know, friends.
Absolutely cold and callous and say, oh yes, but it's Israel.
This is God's people.
They can do what they like.
I've come across this as well, this kind of nudge-nudge, this kind of, well, you know, they're not really, you know, almost like they're not really human, you know, because they're all terrorists, basically.
You know, they buy into the...
Did you...
Did you come across that very sinister bit where Netanyahu quotes the Bible and he talks about Amalek?
Well, I know the quotes that he was making at that time, yeah.
And, I mean, you presumably looked in...
Do you know what he's doing there, though?
What do you think he was doing?
I think he's name-stealing.
I think he is misrepresenting who Amalek is.
I think that Netanyahu is probably Amalek.
Okay.
Well, I was going to be quite serious.
I was going to simply say that Netanyahu was being extremely clever because what he was actually doing was using applied psychology on the Christian Zionists.
He was echoing back to them what they want to believe the Bible tells them.
He was playing with the minds of Christians.
And if there's one thing Netanyahu isn't, it's Christian.
Yeah, it's true.
I'm on my second round reading the New Testament.
I mean, the second recent round, anyway.
And every time I get to the end of the four Gospels...
You're reminded that it wasn't really the Romans that crucified.
Okay, so technically they executed the process, but it was really what the Bible calls the Jews, although I think that term is in itself suspect.
But I think we forget that Judaism, as it's represented in Israel, for example, actually postdates Christianity.
It was invented in the centuries after Christ, and it incorporated the teachings of rabbis who were inimical to Christ.
I mean, you've got the sections where The Talmud claims that Christ is boiling in a bucket of shit or something else in hell.
These stories were not written by people who have a love of Jesus or his message.
Correct.
But there are simpler things to look at, because I haven't got the quotes with me, so again, the audience will have to believe me, but I have written down, I found them over the years, some quotes made by rabbis.
One of those quotes was, there is no such thing as a Judeo-Christian religion, because one automatically excludes the other.
Now that's a very black and white little statement, but really think about it.
I have another which says that Judaism is the means by which this society will become Jewish.
And they're talking about America.
This was a statement made by a rabbi in America.
And he's talking about the whole of America becoming Jewish through the machinery of Christianity.
You've got to give them points for honesty, because it clearly is a contradiction in terms.
If you understand that Judaism is the religion of those who rejected Christ, And his teachings, which it very explicitly is, then how can you use that phrase with any scriptural accuracy or intellectual integrity?
You can't.
It's a contradiction in terms.
Well, you've got to that point, I've got to that point, but apparently the Archbishop of Canterbury, as an example, hasn't got to that point.
But it's a very interesting question.
And the other bit that goes with it, and I think it's important we do that, is, of course, within Israel, there is great consternation at what's going on for many Israelis, Jewish people.
Because they absolutely disagree with what their government is doing.
So we see signs of Orthodox Jews protesting and they're saying, what you're doing is wrong because we've been taught not to kill.
Now, that's a very, very important statement by people that we may disagree with in the way we've just had our little discussion, you and I. But nevertheless, these people have got a religious doctrine where their religious doctrine doesn't tie in with what Netanyahu's doing.
And many of these Orthodox Jews are absolutely persecuted in Israel.
Yes.
I've seen that.
I've seen videos of them being spat at.
And it always goes without saying.
It ought to go without saying.
But of course, it never does because we've been trained to be so hypersensitive and anyone who says anything critical about Jews or Israel or anything.
But when I talk about these things, I... I feel as much affection to my old Jewish fans as ever I did.
I bear absolutely no ill will to your average Israeli.
I think they've been sold as big a pup as many of us have on many issues.
And most of the Jews I know are secular.
They haven't a bloody clue.
They know less about their notional religion that they don't practice than I do.
They simply haven't a clue.
So you can hardly...
I don't blame them.
Well, I don't blame them either.
I think it's unbelievably sad that we've got the nation Israel at the moment caught up in what to them is horrible and they're suffering.
There's no question of it.
But...
There's a lot of them got to wake up to the fact that the Israeli government is not looking after its people in just the same way that we live in UK. And the idea that Keir Starmer is looking after our best interests is absolutely laughable.
I tell you what really, really upset me.
I was thinking, you remember the October 7th thing?
Yeah.
It's my belief that Fairly strong evidence for this.
Circumstantial evidence in any way.
The Israeli intelligence knew this alleged surprise attack was going to come.
And that there was a story I read in the papers about this outpost which was held by some female soldiers of the Israeli, of the IDF. And the girls were basically wiped out.
And I was thinking what it would be like, what it must be like to be a dad of one of those girls, knowing that your daughter was basically offed on the say-so of Netanyahu, who let that thing happen.
I feel as sorry for them as I do for all the Palestinian children being massacred every day and stuff.
It's just...
What this is about really is a story about ordinary people like you and me and kids in Gaza and stuff being shat on.
By this incredibly, incredibly tiny minority who are satanic in their affiliations.
And we know this and they rule by deception.
Yeah.
I'm afraid I think Charles is one of them.
Well, if we talk about, if we just use the expression, the power of evil, the thing about evil is somebody can be evil, but we can also have people doing evil things because essentially it's possessed them.
And I don't mean that in terms of the films.
I mean that...
Their thought processes are being corrupted and they are doing things which are evil because they've been under the influence of effectively evil spirits, evil powers.
I believe this is true.
But I also want to agree with you that from...
Okay, there's a little bit of way I think of what I've seen military and what I understand, although that was a long time ago.
But the idea that Israel...
And the US intelligence services and the British intelligence services and MI5, MI6, GCHQ did not know that there was an attack coming.
This is a laughable idea.
Yeah, it's insulting.
It's utterly laughable.
Of course they knew the attack was coming.
This attack was created and allowed to happen in order for the following events to unfold.
Is your theory on Prince Channel, I mean, from what I've seen, The guy is thick as pig shit.
That he's vain, he's shallow.
Would your line be that he is essentially unraid or unrad, ill-advised, that he's surrounded by corrupting counsellors and maybe his bully dad?
Without question.
Without question.
Look at the father.
And I would regard his father as an utterly evil man, but also look at the clues you get about the upbringing of Charles and what he hints at in Gordonstown, the school.
And the fact that, I've forgotten the man who takes him off into the outback in Kenya.
Oh, Laurence van der Post.
Yes, right.
A fantasist, a proven fantasist in lots of ways.
He is allowed to disappear into the outback with Charles for, was it eight days or a week or something like that?
Now, what did that guy do to Charles' mind in that period?
We have no...
Well, I don't know.
So, this is one of the things where, I mean, you know, there's some good advice in the Bible, isn't it?
You know, by their deeds, ye shall know them.
Yeah.
We get a clue from what they do and what they say, but we've got to be really...
I mean, take child abusers.
Um...
Many years ago, a man who I respect hugely called Bill Maloney, who was abused along with all of his siblings, and he produced some very good documentary films about child abuse.
But when I got to know Bill and he told me more details than I wanted to know about what went on with child abuse, He surprised me one day by saying the only way to deal with it is an amnesty.
And I was really surprised and I said, blimey, you know, why do you say that?
And he said, well, the thing you've got to understand is overwhelmingly most of the people who abuse children will abuse themselves.
And that really made me think.
So do I believe there are people who are absolutely evil?
They're psychopaths.
Absolute psychopaths.
And they've got to the top in global corporations or the government and they help each other.
Yeah, I do believe there's people who are utterly evil.
But I think there's a lot of other people who are in track.
They're led astray.
I mean, the Dutch banker, whose name drops out of my head, but the Dutch banker that started to talk about his experiences in banking and being invited to really nice parties and lots of good looking women.
And then it got a bit more risky.
And then eventually he's at a party and he's surprised to find there's children there.
And so he is recounting the fact that these maligned influences were entrapping people.
But do we point a finger at everybody and say, you are evil through your very being because of what you've done?
Or do we, particularly as Christians, have to show some compassion and say, we can understand that you've been led astray, but you've got to recognise it?
Well...
I want it both ways.
As a Christian, yes, I recognise that there's always room for redemption for these people, but it's up to God to make that decision, and we can understand that they are made of human clay.
At the same time, I'm looking at my Bible and thinking, well, these people are the seed of the serpent.
And that I think that this goes back a very long time, that these bloodlines are tainted, that the heirs to these families,
be they a Rockefeller or a Windsor or whatever, are kept in line by Ritual abuse processes which kind of turn them into the kind of malleable servants of evil that they end up becoming.
So yeah, you can feel sorry for them to have been...
Look, I'm really glad that I wasn't born a royal.
I'm really happy that I was just an ordinary from the West Midlands, you know, with my humble background.
I feel so much happier and I'm eternally grateful to God for giving me that.
But at the same time, you know, these people, they're calling the shots.
I mean, I think you pointed out in one of your...
Yeah, they're only calling the shots because we allow them to call the shots.
Yeah, but we didn't...
Look...
I look at green policy, for example.
I mean, you talk about Charles being the green king.
Yeah.
Having looked at this issue for a long time, I see how green nonsense gets embedded in the system at every level.
And the notionally conservative government we had before they got...
They handed over the baton to another lot.
They were introducing all these green policies which nobody had voted for.
Nobody was interested.
Apart from a handful of sort of St. Paul's educated girlies who then go and deface Van Gogh's exhibitions, you know, have been brainwashed.
Most people don't believe any of this nonsense.
Most people just want to be able to drive their car, get down to Tesco or for a nice weekend in Cornwall or whatever.
They don't want...
They don't want to be forced to buy an electric car that they can't have charger points for.
They only go for 50 miles.
This stuff is all coming top down.
It's all being imposed on them.
Okay, they should have read my book.
They really should have done.
They should be wiser to it.
But can you really blame them for it when we don't really live in democracies?
We don't have any control over this stuff.
It's all imposed by Marks and Spencers, say, deciding that randomly that their milk is going to be fed this anti-farting stuff for...
Well, yeah, I can blame them because there's so many people who know something is wrong, but when you suggest that they should stand up and do something, they give you all the reasons why they can't, right?
And then you get cynical about this because if you've been one of the people battling, and I'm only one of many people...
Battling over the years, it's a hard life because you put your head above the parapet to fight the bad guys and all the little leprechauns and the trolls come out and grab you from within your own ranks almost.
But ultimately, we have to recognise the biggest problem is that human beings at the moment will not stand up and be counted and follow their instincts.
They know it's wrong in here, not in their heads.
They know it's wrong that children are being sexualised.
They know it's absolutely wrong to suggest there's no such thing as a woman.
They know it's wrong, but they will not stand up.
And I smile sometimes because, of course, the wider population in the Bible are called sheep.
And in my younger days, I never really understood why they were called sheep.
But they're called sheep because they are like sheep.
They're frightened of everything and they herd together when life gets a bit tough and they don't go out and defend themselves.
So, you know, we have to really kick people in the nicest possible way to get them to actually have some courage and stand up and say, no, this green policy is not just bad, it's actually satanic, because what it says is that the world is more important than God's creation, man.
Well, obviously, I totally agree with you on that one.
What are we, by the way?
Are we sheep as well?
Well, I don't regard myself as a sheep.
Ah, but do you know about weird sheep?
Okay, come on, what are you doing on that?
So, I got this, you'll never guess where I got this from.
I got this from James Lovelock's 100th birthday party at Blenheim Palace.
This is so weird.
I met the sheep farmer James Rebanks and he told me about weird sheep.
And every flock of sheep has a weird sheep in it.
And the job of the weird sheep is when the shit hits the fan, when, for example, you know, the sheep, most of the time they're fine.
They're just in the field going, you know, in the field, eating there.
But occasionally something unexpected happens that they're not really prepared for.
Like they're...
Their field gets snowed in, and they're all going to die.
Or, you know, something like that, or flooding or something.
And at this point, the weird sheep...
We'll do things like, it'll be the one that climbs up the snowbank onto the wall and leaps over to the other side where the snow hasn't piled up and they've still got access to grass.
The weird sheep is rejected by the flock for most of the time.
I'm probably misrepresenting it, but that's pretty much what the weird sheep does.
Well, you could say in a way that the weird sheep is like an alpha sheep that does show some characteristics of leadership.
So, yeah, okay, maybe it's a bit cocky to say that I'm not part of the sheep, but I'd like to think that I was a weird sheep then, because I've definitely put my head above the parapet.
I think you are definitely a weird sheep.
And I say that as one...
That's going to be all over the internet in no time at all now.
That will be my label.
Well, only if you're ashamed to be a weird sheep with me, Brian.
I'm a weird sheep and I'm very proud to be a weird sheep.
But just a couple of things I was thinking.
See, the things that I can say that you can't and you wouldn't say.
When you were talking to me about how you recognised that The Duke of Edinburgh, Prince Philip, was really genuinely evil.
Did you know that he is allegedly the model for Voldemort in the Harry Potter series?
No, I didn't know that.
So the deep conspiracy, as opposed to UK column line, which you could never say, is that JK Rowling was just a front for these stories which had been prepared long before.
And you know, I'm sure, I think we've talked about this last time, the real purpose was to corrupt the mind of children, turn them over to witchcraft and wizardry, and turn them away from God.
Yeah, Voldemort was based on Prince Philip.
He was just so next level evil, which wouldn't surprise me.
You mentioned Lawrence van der Post, Away With the Fairies.
Yes.
Prince Philip.
And of course, who was the other big influence on Charles's life?
Mountbatten.
Mountbatten.
Who was a raging, raging pedo.
In fact, have you ever come across the...
Have you ever come across the...
I mean, I think Jimmy Savile provided him with boys.
Have you ever come across the story that the real reason that...
That Mountbatten was allegedly killed by the INLA. That it wasn't really the Irish Republicans at all.
It was an intelligence services officer.
That he was becoming too much of an embarrassment.
Well, I mean, these are the sort of interesting stories that go around and I can only nod to my head and say, okay, because I don't have any additional insight into what actually took place then.
But do I believe that our security services are up to no good?
Absolutely, I do.
Yeah.
I can't look at the James Bond movie anymore and think, isn't it great that this guy has got a license to kill?
Give it to him by the British state.
Well, probably, you know, the population, the sheep were being mocked by telling us that in a film.
And of course, Mike Robinson has put out a lot of reports on the UK Column News talking about the law which calmly said that intelligence services and military and local authorities and government were going to be able to break the law in order to carry out whatever intelligence...
Well, operations like the poisoning of the Skripal poisoning.
I don't worry about that because I've always got a pack of wet wipes in my back pocket because, you know, that's fine.
If ever you want to avoid being poisoned by Novichok...
Yes.
Wet wipes.
Wet wipes.
That'll save you.
Well...
I think what we've come away from this chat, Brian, is that we've got to do another chat sometime because...
It's been fun, I have to say.
I was just fascinated at the start of Das Boat.
I think we should say to the audience, if you get a chance to watch it, do watch it because it's a very emotive story.
Oh, it's fantastic.
Yeah.
The scene where there were so many good scenes where they come back from this gruelling tour and they go back to the U-boat pens in, where would they be?
San Nazareth?
Or Brest or somewhere.
Yes, exactly.
Something like that.
And they're being welcomed home and they think, finally, some R&R. And then they get strafed by this An American torpedo bomber.
And you're put in the position of, you know, having been brought up to think of the Allies as good as.
And then suddenly you're totally with the Germans.
You're thinking, they didn't deserve this.
It's a great one.
Well, you know, there's lots of interesting, you know, conversations about that.
Over recent years, I've watched a lot of very good documentaries about the fighting on the Russian front and Eastern front.
And there are some very poignant little clips where people are narrating principally the diaries of German soldiers and officers, but sometimes they're Russians.
So people who were fighting, but they kept a diary.
Really poignant because...
For people who survived a reasonable time, the diary goes through the sort of excitement of the invasion of Russia and going with the troops and then moving east and moving east and they're winning and they're winning and then suddenly things start to go downhill and the cold comes in and then they're talking about terms of their suffering on the Eastern Front.
And they are very poignant stories, but of course what you quickly start to get in the stories is the Germans recognising that the people they're fighting are also human beings and they have huge respect for them.
Yes.
It's interesting.
This has been one of my great...
I used to be a massive World War II junkie.
No longer.
I just think it was a massive blood sacrifice.
And that point we made earlier about feeling sorry for kind of ordinary Israelis, ordinary Jews as much as we do about Any other body of ordinary people in the world.
I feel the same way about the Germans.
I mean, what happened to them in the last year of the war?
Horrific.
Horrific.
I mean, millions of them were killed.
Look at what is going on in Ukraine.
What's going on?
We don't know what the death toll is.
Half a million, 600,000 combined Ukrainian-Russian death toll.
It's a blood sacrifice.
And what is our government doing?
All they want to do is pump in money and weapons.
None of them mention the word peace.
They're not interested because these people are something unique.
They're psychopaths or they're defectives.
But I've just completed the third interview with people involved in the CIA. And it's been fascinating to hear their particular stories and concerns about what's been happening in their own organisation.
So these whistleblowers at that level saying they're out of control.
And we got Biden pardoning his son for the exact period.
I mean, you know, how much more obvious do you want it?
So, briefly, I don't want to detain you for too long, but...
Do you not think that the CIA, I mean, given that the CIA was formed out of the OSS, which amalgamated with the Italian and the Jewish Mafia to form Crime Inc., the CIA hasn't always been a criminal organisation.
So what are these characters doing waking up now?
Well, this is where it's interesting, isn't it?
Because they went into it like I went into the military, believing in your country and the state.
So this is why I'm interested in these people.
It's not only if they've woken up.
But they've been in the belly of the beast and they have had the courage to speak out publicly.
And this is to be encouraged.
We need these people to break ranks because they are the ones that bring us a huge amount of factual information.
It's testimony from people who've been there and seen it and heard it.
So I find this a very encouraged thing.
I sense...
That the cracks are really beginning to come in the deep state, the global deep state.
And I think that when we see these panicky videos where, for example, the World Economic Forum is clearly worried that they're running behind schedule.
We should take part from this because I think the combined work of all the good people speaking out, even ones that I don't particularly like as individuals, but I respect when they are all speaking out, I think worldwide we're all having an effect and we need to keep going.
It's good to have a glimmer of optimism, Brian, because I'm just thinking now things are so completely gone that only Jesus riding on a white horse is going to, with his heavenly hosts, It's going to come and save us now.
We are foot soldiers and we are expected to fight.
This is a huge mistake from Christians who think they can sit there and do nothing.
No, we don't not just do nothing.
Pray.
Hello.
Yes.
Yeah, you think about...
Well, you think about how God wins wars with Gideon.
What, 30 men was it?
Well, of course, anything's possible.
But that's why they want to ban prayer, isn't it?
Because they're ultimately frightened of it.
There was a weird thing.
I did this event recently, and we had 220 people turn up.
And I forgot to do it at the beginning, but I did it at the end of my chat.
I said, by the way, I like to say the Lord's Prayer at these things, because I know this stuff works.
It's really powerful.
And so we did the Lord's Prayer, everyone, some people a bit, ooh, that's a bit embarrassing, but most people.
And it was quite extraordinary.
It was, it was, eerie is the wrong word, because that implies it was something disturbing and slightly unpleasant.
The effect, it just lifted the The vibration, maybe?
I don't know.
You felt like something strong.
I can't recommend prayer highly enough.
I mean, not to you, obviously, you know, but it really works.
Absolutely.
And I'll say again, this is why we have a state.
We have states worldwide that are trying to ban prayer.
Why?
Why?
Because it works.
Brian, tell people where they can find you if they don't know already.
Well, ukcolumn.org.
And then we're also on Substack.
And, well, we're sort of on Facebook, but we keep being semi-banned.
We used to be on YouTube, but we're sort of banned at the moment.
Rumble and a few others.
If you go to the website, you can see all the links through, ukcolumn.org.
Right.
Everyone, take everything Brown's taken with a pinch of salt because he is ex-military.
Well, and MI5, and one day I'm Jewish and then I'm not Jewish.
Garish.
I've got to say, I was really disappointed to discover the other day that there were no such things as leprechauns.
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