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Welcome back to The Delling Pod, Sasha Latipova.
We had a very exciting moment before we started, didn't we?
I think we should share it, because...
Sasha said to me, is there something wrong with my...
Why am I looking so ghosty?
She looked like a ghost.
She looked actually like in that, I said, that TV series about Chernobyl.
She looked like one of the scenes inside the reactor and it was all kind of...
And then I said, maybe, maybe you're...
Have you thought about wiping your screen?
And we thought, no, that's never going to...
It's never going to be that simple.
So, Sasha, then wipe the screen.
And then...
Well, it was extraordinary, wasn't it?
Yeah.
It solved the technical issue.
But, Sasha, look, you're supposed to be...
I mean, the reason...
One of the reasons I have you back many times in this podcast is because you're supposed to be a top scientific brain.
I'm not a scientist.
I don't even have a science degree, a single one.
Alright, okay.
So you're like me.
You're just bloody useless, basically.
Yeah, I know.
People come at me, you're a scientist, you must say this and this.
Oh, yeah, recently I had a wonderful discussion with one of the people.
Do you have these assholes that Assault you on the internet and...
No, everyone loves me, Sasha.
I never get criticized.
So I get this variety and they comment, you're the scientist, you must say this and that and that and then you must stop having opinions.
That was my favorite.
Oh yeah, I do get that occasion.
There are certain...
Certain people who appear on my Substack articles to explain to me that all I'm offering is just an opinion and it's just an opinion.
And I'm thinking, well, thank you for telling me that my opinion piece is just an opinion.
Isn't that the nature of opinion pieces?
Thanks for confirming.
I, certainly if anyone were to describe me as a scientist, not that they would, but I'd kind of take it as an insult.
I mean, I think that science, although it was sold to us probably when we were growing up as the thing, As this kind of special area of learning which elevated you above mere artists and whatever.
I reckon that was just another part of the science.
I think science has been captured since at least the 17th century.
Yes.
It's all fake, isn't it?
I mean, Newton?
What I know about Newton is that even at the time when Principia Mathematica came out, we're supposed to go, oh, Principia Mathematica.
It's in Latin.
Written by Isaac Newton with the wig from the Royal Society.
You know, like this guy was just a genius.
He was just amazing.
He's like Newton's first law and second law and third law.
And you're supposed to go, yeah, yeah, yeah, right.
But apparently, even when that book came out, no one understood it.
And no one dared challenge it because everyone was saying, this book is just so clever.
It's just amazing.
It's just like, just don't question.
Don't show anybody you don't understand it.
Just go along with it.
And that's what everyone's done ever since.
Yeah, exactly.
I was, you know, I was thinking about that.
And at this point, I am almost considering science a dirty word.
I am sick and tired of people pushing this nonsense of follow the science, trust the science.
And on both sides, actually, like both sides are guilty for, as I said, and I frequently tell people, you know, since we've, you know, came on to the space in the context of COVID, You know, the problem is that they're trying to debate scientific merits of a crime, of genocide.
And, you know, on both sides, they're trying to pretend it's science and medicine when it's not.
It's just, it's genocide.
It's, you know, recently I came across this Dutch author, Miss, I'm probably mispronouncing his name, Pajan.
Pajan, I'm not...
I'm not sure how to pronounce his name.
He writes on Substack also, and he published a book and he very correctly described COVID as a protection racket.
It's a global protection racket.
Many, many things are basically, many crimes boiled down to some sort of a protection racket.
Yeah, so that's my concern.
But every time we have some sort of a hearing, or I get invited often to go testify somewhere, To lawmakers or to even like county officials and things like that.
And everybody, you know, they pile on scientists and doctors to go and they start with the science says blah, blah, blah.
And we spent hours talking about science in the crime scene.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
There's an analogy I want to draw there in a moment, but tell me more about this.
When you say both sides, what do you mean by both sides?
Well, so the criminal side, obviously, used as a deception.
So the protection racket of COVID is...
It boils down to, or you can say that it's a double protection racket.
So first you go scare somebody, like, you know, the classical protection racket, you know, the wise guys show up in your shop, you're a shop owner, they show up in your shop and they say, well, you know, you need to pay us protection money.
Otherwise, you know, your shop will be broken into and burglarized, you know, weekly or daily or something.
And so they scare you, and that hasn't happened before, but they come in, they look threatening, they scare you, and you're like, well...
I have no choice.
And you start paying them protection money.
So that's the protection racket.
Sometimes they actually might protect you from something, but in practical reality, oftentimes if your shop is burglarized by somebody else or by them, there's no real protection.
The same is about NATO. NATO is a protection racket.
You know, they come in and they say, oh, you know, if you join our side, our military will protect you and you need to demilitarize.
But our military will step in should anything happen.
Does it?
Not very often.
Yeah, no, I don't agree with everything RFK Jr. says, but...
I did see something very interesting he said describing the situation in Ukraine and Russia and NATO and stuff.
And he said, I hadn't heard this before and I should have done.
The reason that NATO wants to bring countries like Ukraine into the NATO fold is because with it comes the obligation of standardizing their weaponry Using the same, you know, so they've got interchangeable weaponry, what weapon systems are they called?
So that once Ukraine gets dragged into NATO, they'll suddenly have to adopt all these, I don't know, all the defense companies are going to be making like bandits.
So it's not that you're going to get protected in case of war, it's just you have to buy their weapons.
That's what it is.
Yes, that's what it is about.
So it's all about making the defense contractors rich.
And now in this COVID scenario, now we've extended it.
So those were classical weapons, which are weapons.
And now we've extended it into bioweapons, which are these mRNA shots.
So that's also a double protection record.
So they simulated illness.
In some areas, most of it was the measures that they were using, the public health measures such as killing people in the hospital with remdesivir ventilators, masking to make sure that they all get pneumonia, all these other tyrannical measures that they've implemented to drive illness.
In my opinion, which is not shared by many people, in my opinion, they also used some chemical weapons to simulate Some unusual illness symptoms, which were not deadly, but were weird enough so that people were scared.
And so with all these like fear, propaganda, scaremongering, some use of chemical weapons in some locations, And mostly these, you know, killing protocols.
They've simulated a pandemic to scare everyone.
This is the first part of the racket.
You scare everyone into, we've developed gain-of-function virus.
Oh no, not we.
It's the China.
China.
Developed again a functional virus and released it in the world.
And so now we need to protect everyone with these mRNA shots.
And so then they pushed all this mRNA garbage onto all the countries.
And remember, with also very tyrannical, very abusive and...
You know, plainly illegal contracts that everybody had to sign without any negotiation, right?
And so those contracts also waived all the rules, all the pharmaceutical regulations, all safety regulations, so that they could push all this garbage throughout the world.
And that's your, again, you have to buy our bioweapons now.
Yes.
It's all the same playbook, isn't it?
What?
They use the same playbook for everything, whether it's bioweapons or military weapons or...
Yeah, yeah.
And they also, you know, in terms of to like scare all the governments into it, they also created this huge panic, both pull and push.
So the lawmakers that were having any questions or objections were screamed at and saying, your constituents are clamoring for these life-saving vaccines.
So now that Trump walks around and says, we saved millions of lives with these vaccines.
Because that was their propaganda message.
If you start questioning Ursula's negotiations on these contracts, you're not going to get elected next time because your constituents are just going to crucify you.
For being such a bad representative and not giving them the life-saving vaccines.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, you're making me feel almost sorry for the politicians, which can't be a good thing.
Well, I feel sorry for some of them.
I mean, they're not all evil people.
What?
I've met...
What are you saying?
A lot of them are.
But a lot of them are, you know, just people who got into politics for whatever reason, you know, were doing fine.
And then this comes along.
What can they do?
And it was, you know, a handful of people who even thought of asking any questions.
Yeah, I suppose.
Although, to be honest, if somebody were to say to me, James, your podcast can only continue if you do a special episode where you talk about how you've got it all wrong, and vaccines are great, and get jabbed up this Christmas.
I think I'd just cancel the podcast.
I wouldn't say, you know, the politicians...
They did bad things.
I mean, maybe it was to save their careers, but no.
Yeah, no, they did bad things.
It's time to, you know, and frankly, anyone who honestly would come out and say, you know, I was wrong, I was mistaken.
Some doctors have, I know.
But, you know, somebody needs to come out and say, hey, this is what happened.
We got had, okay?
Yeah.
But they won't.
And so this charade continues.
And so that's why I'm so upset now at people who are still pushing it as if it's a scientific exercise.
It's some sort of matter of science.
So if we only get the science right, then all of this will go away.
No, you're just perpetuating this problem.
You're perpetuating this crime.
Yeah, I think you're right.
Tell me about this thing that I saw.
I read, you know, you were talking about it a few weeks ago and I was thinking, well, Sasha's on the case, therefore I won't need to research it myself.
She'll do a fantastic job and then explain it all to me.
So some stuff's come out from Germany, hasn't it?
A sort of smoking gun.
Oh, yeah.
The Robert Koch Institute leaked files, yes.
Yes, tell me about it.
Is it good?
Actually, it's great.
Well, depending on which side you're on.
Actually, Mike Eden sent me the link to the YouTube video by Stefan Homburg, who's a professor in Germany, and he...
So this leak came out, I believe, actually in the middle of the year, so it's not very recent, several months old, but it was mostly in German and it was discussed in Germany, so it wasn't really known here.
So Mike sent it to me, and so there is a, I published on my Substack, there is a video on YouTube, it still is on YouTube, and where Stefan Holmberg did this presentation in German, I believe, Parliament, and He discussed very well this leak.
The leak contains, I believe, over 4,000 pages of documents like meeting minutes from Robert Koch Institute, which is their German CDC. And so throughout 2021-23,
I believe, so all these years, they have meeting minutes and Protocols and whatever they discussed and very detailed of how they were designing these plans for keep everyone in lockdown, the masking, what was known about the PCR tests at the time.
Essentially every day or every week, I don't remember the frequency, they meet and you have these meeting discussions.
It's just obvious that it's a total nonsense.
So he's done a great job.
I also published his article.
He contributed to my Substack, where he discusses, you know, here are the main findings, here are the screenshots, both in German and in English.
It's hilarious.
Surely, had the Germans had any sense, they'd have covered all this up, like all the other scientific institutions did in the UK and America.
I mean, I'm sure they were all redacted elsewhere.
Yes, they redacted them when, I guess, people submitted freedom of information requests, whatever.
So whatever they received was redacted, but these are unreducted.
So these are completely the leak.
Somebody inside probably got pissed off sufficiently to leak it, and these are all unreducted.
And you can see that all of these pandemic measures were completely nonsensical.
Actually, one of my readers did a great summary of it.
It's hysterical.
It's in the comments.
And it says, you know, so he summarized it all in like, oh, you know, it's a deadly virus.
Unless you need to go shopping, then it's not.
You have to go to the hospital.
Unless you're ill, then don't go to the hospital because it's dangerous.
All this masking is great.
Well, maybe if you don't need to, then don't.
But really, you should.
It's just this...
Because, as I said, it's not a real pandemic.
It was never a real pandemic.
And they pushed it all in the countries under conditions of panic, lots of money, lots of power struggles and so forth.
And you see how in this artificially created situation, people who were previously quite reasonable, you know, normal public health professionals, especially in Germany, We're just caught in this BS back and forth.
You know, today it's masking.
Tomorrow it's not masking.
The day after, it's masking everywhere, including babies.
I mean, so they just were coming up with this nonsense for years.
And now, you know, we can see that the emperor has no clothes.
Yeah.
But so...
It's all out in the open, except the caravan trundles on.
I mean, it's like this scandalous revelation has made no difference at all.
I suppose because it's not being reported.
It's not being reported.
The problem is with a lot of people, you know, like...
I often discuss this with my friends.
What happens actually with people?
So the problem with all of this also, on both sides, we talk in generalities and we talk in humanity, people in general.
I also don't really like the word humanity.
Yeah, I don't.
Because it's a communitarian thing and all of this is going in one direction.
And, you know, so they look about generalities, the system, the corruption, big pharma, government.
So all of these are general terms.
But we need to understand specific people.
So specific people did specific things.
And these specific people now, you know, they've done these bad things and they said lies for so long that they got into the space of lying and So far, it's like you lost in the forest.
Literally.
So actually, you can observe it from LLMs, from large language models.
They're helpful in understanding how people get where they get.
So once you've been lying for decades or years, maybe, and you got into the space of lies so far, you literally, these people are unable now to come back.
I mean, it probably would take a bunch of reprogramming to lead them back into the space of the truth.
But they're so far lying, including to themselves, and you can see it on Twitter, you can see it like in other places, they literally cannot come back.
And it's just, it's a tragedy.
And there's so many of them.
Yes.
Nobody reads Walter Scott anymore because he's incredibly long and boring.
They were very popular in the 19th century.
And the only quote that he's remembered for is, oh, what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive.
Yes.
It sounds like it's Shakespeare, but it's not.
It's actually from a Walter Scott poem called Marmion.
I don't know.
Anyway, but I think that captures what you've described there, that you get in two deeps of the lies.
How do you get out?
Yeah, and they are unable to because, well, so one interesting thing about large language models, and they kind of bring to the surface the fact that when we speak, most of the time, we don't think about what we're saying.
And it's not just the LLMs.
I mean, there are other authors who pointed to this.
You know, we have two modes of thinking, fast and slow.
It's a Kahneman model.
The fast we use most of the time where we don't think about what we're saying or thinking.
And that is easy to hijack if you don't pay attention.
So they hijack that fast mode by giving you slogans to repeat, like follow the science, trust the science, you know, life-saving vaccines, like these words that you just repeat mindlessly.
And Also, you get rewards for repeating these words mindlessly, such as social acceptance, promotion on social media, likes, retweets.
You know, everybody thinks that you're a nice person because you're not rocking the boat.
You're going along with it.
So you get lots of rewards and lots of encouragement to do that.
And you keep doing that.
And eventually, when you keep doing that without thinking long enough, you can't do anything else.
But that.
So it's like your next token, your next word prediction is your next token.
You are limited to these pathways that are now hard-coded in your head or wherever you are.
Not necessarily in your head.
But...
So that's how they get into, and then they lead them into transgender, you know, women are women, love is love, you know, so eventually they push them into that direction where they want them.
And as I said, there's a huge crowd of people.
And that's why I also have these discussions with friends of mine who are scientists, good scientists, okay?
And they have colleagues who have seen all the data that we've compiled, who have seen the contamination data, have seen the data that these things integrate in genomes.
They've seen the miscarriages, the deaths of children, all the horrid stuff.
And they still can't say that this thing is bad.
So they will acknowledge all the data.
They will acknowledge that you're right.
But still, there is no change of mind.
And that's because of that.
What they've been turned into kind of NPC automatons.
Yes.
Can you just tell me what a large language model is?
Well, these are all these AI models, which I'm also not an expert of.
I just, you know, I read and, well, my husband really likes that area of research, so we talk a lot about it.
And, um, yeah, so I, first when they came out, so there are multiple different large language models that were built, and it was like Google and, you know, all the usual, all the usual tech companies, big tech companies are spending huge amounts of money on them.
They don't make money, they consume tremendous amount of money to train.
So they scraped all the content They typically scrape the content from the internet, everything that is written.
And then they try to build a model to explain how this language happens.
So most of the time, they figure it out.
And I wrote a couple of articles about it.
What's underlying this is they are trying to make something that speaks like a human.
And it's pretty successful.
They're pretty successful at this.
And it turns out that the most effective way to do it is to predict which wards reside next to which other wards in this vector space.
So they create the vector space of all the wards, and then they calculate there's a math that tells you, you know, the FOLO and science are next to each other.
Okay?
Yeah.
So if you prompt somebody with follow, they'll respond with science.
And so that's how you...
And so that the fast mode of us, when you're fluent in some language, so because I'm dual language, I can speak Russian, I can speak English, so I can appreciate this.
When you become fluent in some language, this is what happens.
You've built your vector space such that you can quickly...
Say the word that you need without thinking about it.
Yes.
And the way you do it is by jumping through these tokens, through this next word that most commonly resides with this previous word.
Right, yes.
That's why when I'm typing things now, it tells me what my next word's going to be.
And I kind of resent it, because I think, well, fuck off, you know, I'm going to decide, not you.
Exactly.
So that's something to watch for also.
So they now have all these methods that make it convenient for you.
So they're trying to push everyone into convergence of the same language.
By doing these kinds of things.
Your word processor now predicts your next word.
Your email is going to write your standard email responses for you.
And that's why I think we discussed it previously, and I always advise people, don't repeat the words of others.
Just don't repeat the words of whatever you hear, whether you agree or disagree.
Don't repeat it.
Try to find your own language.
Or at least be aware of this.
That's how they program people into NPCs.
And they're trying to now figure out what made us suspicious of this and resentful and resisting and how to bring us into the fold now with the same mechanism.
Because what they're trying to do is enslave the population.
Obviously, I mean, we know that.
But enslaving is kind of like, and they also compare humans to cattle often or agriculture.
And, you know, in industrial agriculture, all your, you know, I frequently go to wine country, and you should see the vineyards in Napa Valley.
And I've joked with the farmers here that, you know, they use calipers to measure, you know, How the wine and where to cut it.
And they're pristine.
They're beautiful.
Very, very consistent, very pristine, the same height.
They train them in different configurations depending on what type they're growing.
But they're all uniform.
Why?
Because that's how you make consistent quality on large industrial scale.
So your cows need to be all brown with white faces.
The vines need to be trained exactly this way.
You can't let them go whichever way.
So you need uniform culture.
And that's what they're trying to do.
Uniform people thinking the same things, saying the same things, marching to the same order.
That's what it is about.
Well, I mean, they might need that.
Isn't that what Bismarck did?
Bismarck created the modern education system where everyone was going to be a cog in the machine.
But we, we real people, we actually need outsiders and weirdos to save us from this machine status.
As you've noticed, who spoke up?
Outsiders and weirdos, right?
Yeah.
So, who said, wait, you can't lock me down, and this vaccine passport is total BS? No, yeah?
So, yeah, those are the people that arise, usually, seemingly out of nowhere, because they're never, you know, super popular or super powerful to begin with.
But they do arise because we do exist, and they can't eliminate this.
That's the funny part.
They can't eliminate this part of these kinds of people.
They can, because they've got death rays now.
Even if you're on a yacht, they can sink your yacht, where they can conjure up a squall and destroy you.
Yes.
Of course you can kill anybody, but...
For some reason, they have not succeeded in identifying beforehand where those people are.
So, as I said, they're usually not very prominent, and so it's hard to predict who is going to...
Isn't that the purpose of, sorry, of Palantir?
Isn't...
I think so.
There's software, isn't it, supposed to design...
I mean, isn't this the problem?
I'm just sort of very badly paraphrasing stuff I've heard on Whitney Webb's podcast.
And she's gone into the relationship of J.D. Vance and Peter Thiel and Palantir.
As I understand it, this software is designed to search out people like us and, you know, well, eventually destroy us, I suppose.
Yes, probably.
Yeah, I agree with that.
I agree that they want to, that's why this pervasive desire to monitor every conversation, every thought, every saying, get into people's heads, because they're deathly afraid of this phenomenon that happened during COVID because that tanked their protection racket, essentially.
And they have very few options left.
So, as I said, they come into the environment where they think everybody is marching to their drumbeat.
It turns out that the minute they try to implement their strategy, there is a counter strategy.
And that happens all the time.
That actually happens throughout history.
I point people to, I don't know if you know Toynbee, the historian, Arnold Toynbee, who wrote The History of Civilizations.
It's a huge, huge work.
Yeah, well, I think he's the grandfather or somebody of the distinguished Guardian columnist Polly Toynbee, who writes these sort of woke polemics.
Yeah, unfortunately, it's not always like, you know, and I mean, I'm not saying that, like, he is...
I don't know much about him or his politics.
I just read the work.
The work is useful to understand that what's happening, what we're describing, happened over and over and over and over again.
And typically happens.
Not always.
Not in all societies.
There are some differences.
And it's also interesting to appreciate the differences.
But it's very, very consistent, especially in the Western, so-called white people.
I'm especially prone to this, and maybe that's why they want to go after white and Christianity.
Yeah.
Because it turns out the Hellenic, so in his model it's a Hellenic civilization, the white, because it originated in Greece, and this happens all the time.
So when the civilization comes to an end, like it's now, A lot of people start marching to the same drum beat.
He calls it mimesis or mimetic drilling, right?
And repeating the same mindless slogans and performing like a performative rituals that mean nothing, but they just perform them thinking that that is something, right?
And so they collapse in some form of a war.
But during this time is where he calls it creative minority arises.
And this is the creative minority that undermines the minority in power.
Because they call their bullshit.
And that happened over and over again.
Are you saying that I should read Toynbee?
Oh, yes.
Is it readable?
There is a version which I don't know if you should be able to find it on eBay or It's out of print.
So he has a 12-volume work, which is very...
I'm going to skip that one.
I want the TLDR. But there is an illustrated, very cool book, which I got off of Amazon used.
And it's like a large volume with a lot of art in it, which is very cool.
And then Kind of the summary of all his stuff.
It's a pretty large volume, but it's very interesting.
It's also like a nice coffee book.
So that one I would definitely recommend to read.
There's also versions.
I found some of this stuff online, like chapters for free online.
You can just read that.
But yeah, it's very useful to go through this Cycle and to say, oh, I think I know where we are.
Right, yeah.
So this sort of mimetic phase of...
This is one of the signals of a culture which is sort of...
Peak decline, as it were.
And so everyone starts copying everyone else for social acceptance and because they've been turned into automatons by the ruling system.
Because I've noticed a while back how disturbing it was, some of the things that girls were doing to themselves, the way that they all had hair straighteners, and they were all, I mean, this is a while back, and they were all doing sort of terrible things to their faces, their lips and stuff, and it was really upsetting because they didn't look like girls anymore.
They looked like, well, not girls.
When I was growing up, Girls often didn't even wear makeup, and you kind of, you know, it wasn't a weird thing.
It wasn't a weird thing to look natural, look like a girl.
Uh-huh.
That doesn't happen anymore, does it?
No, yeah, they all start looking like Jeff Bezos' wife.
Yeah.
Right?
And it's just terrifying.
It is.
It's sad.
It's very sad.
There are these reality TV programs called, you know, Love Island or whatever, or I forget now, but where young people are put in this environment, a sort of hotel with a pool and stuff, and they're expected to pair off for our delectation and amusement.
And I look at these creatures, and okay, I mean, maybe I'm the wrong age group anyway, I shouldn't be fancying these girls.
You know, make me a dirty old man.
But I look at these women and I think, I'm sorry, darling, but I wouldn't like you as my daughter-in-law.
I'd be horrified if my son married you and bred with you, because you're just like...
It's terrible.
I mean, well, I've heard of these programs.
I don't watch TV, so I'm not interested in that.
But yeah, I've seen enough here and there on social media, and I know exactly what you're talking about.
Well, I mean, in fairness, these are scripted shows, so okay.
But the reason they're scripting them this way also is because they want girls out there to behave this way and to think that this is something to admire and this is how beauty looks like.
It's another part of programming people to a particular outcome which the programmers want.
And they succeed with a sufficient number of population that, you know, we see this.
We see Taylor Swift And everybody's Going to her concerts And I'm like I've mentioned this before I get very, very upset.
Seeing Taylor Swift's arse and her...
I mean, assuming generously that it is a woman, I'm still not convinced by that.
Yeah, I have doubts.
I have doubts.
But if it is a woman, it behaves in a very unladylike way, let's say.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, given that the backstory on Taylor Swift is...
Because, you know, I'm the father of a Swifty or a former Swifty, so I've had to live through all this.
And I even got so good for a while that I could compete in Taylor Swift quizzes.
You know, there was that quiz game that was briefly popular where, you know, and I could go on to Taylor Swift and I could equip myself reasonably well that you know like apparently when she was a child she worked on a Christmas tree farm and stuff like this and Part of the thing about Taylor Swift,
you know, she was this country artist, you know, kind of quite innocent and stuff and wrote songs about, you know, doom romances and stuff.
And the selling point was always, this is the kind of role model you can leave safely with your daughter because she's honest and wholesome and stuff.
And now she's become it.
He has become this thing where it goes on stage and shoves his bottom and his crotch, unconvincing crotch, frankly, probably strapped in, in your face and these thighs and stuff.
To girls of about 9 or 10 or 11, and tells them to F the patriarchy, except using the F word which I used earlier on, but that was me naughty.
And you're thinking, this is all being scripted, and it is part of the corruption of the youth.
It's part of the corruption of the youth.
I mean, again, I never followed Taylor Swift.
When thinking back, Years when she, it looked like she, was initially, you know, doing the country songs and stuff like that.
I thought it was fine.
I thought, yeah, it's cute.
Yeah, it's okay.
And, you know, it wasn't anything controversial.
It was just, you know, yeah...
We broke up with my boyfriend.
Okay, you know, it's normal.
But, yeah, now it's a totally different creature.
And I'm not even sure, you know, if anybody...
Again, I don't have a particular interest, but I'm not even sure it's the same person anymore.
It may have replaced...
Might not be.
Might not be, because I've seen her recent...
Like a clip recently with, like, a staff...
Backstage doing something.
I mean, they're checking makeup and whatever.
And I don't know really what her height is supposed to be.
It looked to me like 6'5", you know?
Like man height.
Huge man height.
In fact, giant.
Yeah, basketball player man.
What do you think about giants?
Yeah.
The giants.
The giant.
And as far as I remember, when she first came out, she wasn't a giant.
So I don't know...
Yeah, I don't know what happened.
No, you're right.
Before we go on, Sasha, can you just look, if I look directly at the camera, are my eyes straight?
Because I fell off a horse today.
I'm just wondering...
You fell off a horse?
No, they're not very straight.
They don't feel like straight.
Nope.
One seems to be going out, the other...
That's not normal, is it?
No.
Did you check yourself out?
Do you feel you have a headache or anything?
You might have a slight concussion.
I'm supposed to be going hunting tomorrow.
And I'm trying to decide whether to cancel or not.
But...
I've been feeling a bit weird, but I'm looking at my eyes now and I'm thinking that one is going that way.
Yeah, one eye is...
Is that a sign?
Yeah, you might have a slight concussion if you fell off a horse, so don't go hunting and I would go check yourself for concussion.
I mean, it's...
Probably okay if you're functioning normally, but you probably need to rest about a week or so.
Yeah, that is really annoying.
Does that happen?
Can your eye, does it...
And will it come back?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, it will.
So, you just...
I mean, yeah, as I said, we just need to check for any other potential issues, but...
Yeah, you see, the annoying thing is I was kind of relying on God to save me because I've got a good...
I like to think I've got a good relationship with him.
And I was thinking about this earlier on.
Sorry, I'm jumping all over the place.
But I love talking to you because you're quite well-read.
And it's not often I can talk to well-read people who are kind of...
I mean, it was weird.
I've had the education of the elites, of the dark overlords of this world, and they made a mistake.
Yeah, they sometimes do.
They let me into their world, and I glimpsed it.
And now I'm sort of...
Do you know what I'm like?
Do you know about the Battle of the Teutoburg Forest, where the three Roman legions, I think, or regiments anyway, were wiped out by the Germans?
What happened was that the Romans, in their policy of sort of controlling the natives, they would take the chieftains of the Germans, of the conquered tribes, and Romanize them.
And these Romanized chieftains would appear to show loyalty, and often did show loyalty to Rome, because, you know, civis romans, or whatever, that they became part of, they became Romans.
But these, in this particular instance, the supposedly Romanized chieftains, German chieftains just used their insider knowledge to pretend that they were on the Roman side.
And when their opportunity came, they lured them into the forest and killed them all.
And I think that's kind of the mistake they made with me.
I mean, I haven't killed them, but, you know...
Yeah, you know, that's what I said.
They can't screen out in any selection process, like, you know, Ivy League education, big corporations, you know, big companies.
They can't screen out people who won't lose the moral compass enough to go along.
And that's their perennial problem.
And we'll continue because humans are like that.
Humans are not, you know, so that's why I'm trying to have people to realize and to start consciously striving toward is restore the value of individual, restore the value of the person.
That's what they're trying to, the enemy is trying to eliminate.
They're trying to herd you all into monoculture.
And in monoculture of NPCs that can be programmed by these simple slogans.
But we need to restore the value of the individual.
We need the renaissance of the, you know, there's a human, there's an individual, and we're all sovereign, and we're all masters of ourselves.
We don't have any other masters, and we only, you know, we respond to God and our own consciousness.
And there's nothing above that.
You know, that's what they've been trying to eliminate with all these methods that, you know, we've been discussing, and they can't.
Well, isn't that what Steiner warned about, that vaccines were a way of cutting people off from God?
They do something to you.
How do they do that?
Well, I don't necessarily know other than poisoning, you know, so, you know, I generally call all of it poisoning, the vaccines, because, and if you poison somebody enough, well, you will destroy their higher levels of thinking, because those are very energy intensive, and, you know, those will go first.
So, you kind of like, You know, it's basically dumbing everybody down so that then they can be programmed by these variety of different methods, distractions, conveniences, you know, things of that nature.
But that's why I'm so vocal about vaccination as poisoning, because it is poisoning.
And so we need to restore the human body, the human spirit, and then elevate the individual Elevate the individual and the virtuous individual.
Just, you know, basically the standards of beauty, the logic, you know, all those things that they've existed throughout and we have a rich, very rich basis from which to start.
But people need to improve themselves.
Elevate individual, elevate virtue, and strive to be better every day.
Strive to do something better, think better, read better, make better music, write poetry.
You know, all those things, all those arts that are, you know, the rich people cultivate.
Why do they cultivate them?
Well, because of that, because they want to be above you, you know?
Yes.
Yeah.
I'm sure that's the case.
Although they don't seem to...
At the highest levels, they don't seem to really actually appreciate it that much.
No.
I don't think the psychopaths have got a genuine sort of aesthetic sensibility.
I mean, they can sort of...
They know what the good things are, but they can't respond to it emotionally.
Or maybe I'm just generalising, but that seems to...
Some do, some don't.
Yeah, it's hard to generalize for all of them.
But oftentimes it's because they also, you know, because they're evil, or they've committed evil, they can, you know, appreciate, they've been trained to detect something truly valuable and beautiful.
But yeah, they're separated from it now because the virtue is gone.
Yes.
That's what I was getting at.
Yeah, so that's what links you to the ultimate beauty, to the real, the true beauty of anything, of thought, of object, nature.
But that link is broken, and so oftentimes they will see and they will know this is a beautiful, valuable object, but all they have is rage and jealousy at it, and so they try to destroy it.
Yeah.
I was quite taken by what you said earlier on, and it's quite a contentious point which could get us into trouble, but you were talking about how the war on white people is...
They, whoever they are, particularly dislike white people because we seem to be the least prone to this brainwashing.
I mean, it's obvious you look at oriental cultures.
They are about collectivism.
They naturally lend themselves to, they seem to quite like it.
I mean, I think it's observable.
I don't think I'm making a particularly contentious, racist point there.
You look at the Chinese, look at the conformities.
We don't...
We white people.
We don't...
I mean, this goes back, as you say, quite a long way.
The tradition...
I don't know whether you could talk about the Iliad and the sort of, you know, the sort of the age of heroes and stuff, but...
Or the heroes in Anglo-Saxon literature.
Individualism has been prized culturally.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yes, exactly.
Individualism is prized culturally amongst white culture.
Again, it's just an observation from history.
And if you read Toynbee, he doesn't make an also explicit point that this is white people.
He just describes different civilizations.
I think he describes about 20 different civilizations and some And so he tries to come up with generalized models of thinking about them, but they don't always apply.
It's just a model.
You have to understand, models are models.
They don't describe 100% reality.
It's just a framework, a helpful framework to simplify things and be able to move large blocks around.
But that's what he found, that starting from the Hellenic world, Continuously, you know, goes through Roman and subsequent the European civilizations and so forth.
That's what he found, is this model of where there is an empire.
So there also, the white civilization is the one that builds empires.
So you have an empire arising and then it grows and then You know, that this collapse happens, as I said, but you always have this minority of people who call BS, rise up, and build the next civilization.
And I know that the people who want to enslave the world, they want to enslave the entire world.
They figured out that, you know, you can't build communism in one place.
It doesn't last very long, like they did in the Soviet Union or You know, you can either have a relatively small territory, like North Korea, or, you know, establish an overlaid territory, but it doesn't last very long.
And with the information exchange and so forth, people understand, oh, we're living in a prison, and this is just wrong.
So, what they do, they want to establish this slavery system, communism as a new world order, But they figured out through this historical knowledge that white people are a problem.
Yeah.
That's why they're going after us.
Do you think this is really contentious?
I mean, do you read the Bible at all?
Not very recently, but I do sometimes, yeah.
I read the Russian version a long time ago.
What's the Russian version?
Is that different?
Well, I mean, it's not really different.
It's just, it's the Orthodox Russian Bible.
Yeah, well, do you author, I mean, I have Catholic friends who boast to me that they, darling, we never read the Bible.
I mean, maybe they're half-joking, but I was just wondering, what's the Orthodox position?
Are you encouraged to read the Bible or not?
Yes, yes.
I read it every night for entertainment.
You know what?
I quite like acquiring a new field of expertise.
You're reading this book, it's got some good stories in it, but also you become more knowledgeable about this key area of One of the foundations of Western culture.
So it's quite a good thing to read for the academic side of it as well as the spiritual side of it.
And what comes across very clearly Is that God, if you believe in the God of the Bible, he has favourites.
There are some people he likes, some groups of people he likes, and others he doesn't like.
He doesn't particularly like the Egyptians.
He can't stand the Moab.
He doesn't like the Canaanites.
He doesn't like...
God is kind of...
God is actually quite racist.
He loves the children of Israel.
He really likes them, and they get away with murder.
I mean, you know, they're always misbehaving.
He gives them so many chances, and they're always...
And he's just saying, why?
I just got...
I've had enough this time.
And there's normally one of the children of Israel, you know, one of the leaders who says, please God, just, I know they're terrible, but give them another chance.
And God's heart is softened.
I suppose the point I'm coming to is that it seems to me, going down the kind of the rabbit hole, that when the children, when the 12 tribes of Israel were dispersed, They didn't just hang around the Middle East.
They moved.
They went through...
Some of them would have ended up in Russia.
Some of them would have ended up in Hungary.
Some of them would have ended up...
Some of them ended up in Wales.
These are the white people you're talking about.
This is what...
It's possible.
I mean, I don't...
I have no opinion one way or the other.
I am mostly, when I talk about white people, I'm talking about You know, more, you know, contemporary understanding of it.
Sure.
Where do you think the white people came from?
I mean, what do you think they were doing 3,000 years ago?
3,000 years ago.
Well, earlier than 3,000.
Actually, 4,000 years ago.
Yeah, I actually don't even have an opinion where people came from.
Not from Africa, that's for sure.
But...
You know, it's hard to say.
I mean, same also, you know, again, I'm not a Bible scholar or anything, but there's explanations that, let's say, Noah's Ark landed on Mount Ararat, which is in Armenia, and it does seem like Armenia is a source of white people, and civilizations such as agriculture exploded from there, and, you know, it wasn't Wasn't anywhere before and things like that.
So I don't know.
And by the way, you know, for...
For the record, I'm half Asian.
I'm not holding against you, but I can see that part of you is subject to the collectivist impulse, and you can't help it.
You feel like a bee in a hive because of your Asian side.
Well, maybe, yeah.
Well, I'm half Asian.
I'm from the Central Asian, so not the...
You're a Tatar.
Tatar, yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
So, When I say white is this culture that what I know the current woke culture is going after, that's what I'm talking about.
I don't have an opinion whether it's tribes of Israel or Armenians or what happened.
Also, there's been a lot of migration back and forth, Asia to Europe, Europe to Asia, you know, all kinds of places.
So, by now...
I have no idea who is who.
No.
I don't, frankly, think Genghis Khan contributed much to global culture, frankly.
Was that yours?
Well, do you?
Yeah, it is.
It is.
Horses.
No, actually, I take it back.
Horses.
Horses.
What's not to like, apart from when you fall?
Archery.
Archery.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
Vag weapons.
It definitely is.
That eye is looking in the...
Mm-hmm.
A little bit.
Oh, sweet.
Yeah, you should go, like, check yourself out for any injury, but you probably just need a week of rest or something.
Oh, yeah, like you can't drink, you can't watch TV. It's really shit.
Yeah, no, don't watch TV. Yeah, but I have to keep the wife happy and also to...
Well, you need to recover.
Even doing this podcast, I'm looking at a screen and, you know, I'm sure doctors would be saying to me, Sasha is killing you.
You're looking at Sasha and she's...
Is there anything else?
Because people are going to be saying, why did you get Sasha on your show and you just talk bollocks about your eyes?
Are there any other interesting things you discovered that we should know about that you want to tell me about?
The interesting thing that I've discovered.
So, yeah, I wanted people to understand, to, like, yet again, understand the pandemic racket.
I know people have a lot of questions about US elections and, you know, what Trump is doing and so forth.
And I want people to be aware.
So I am really disappointed with his picks for Surgeon General, especially, and FDA. Yes, the Surgeon General, she was a jab pusher, wasn't she?
Oh, yeah.
I mean, they all were.
His FDA pick also pushed jabs on pregnant women.
And now he's being advertised as anti-vaxxer.
I'm like, excuse me?
Here are the tweets from the guy pushing it on pregnant women.
And, you know, so...
In my opinion, Trump has refilled his cabinet with swamp creatures again, and is going to continue the same racket, you know, Operation Warp Speed again.
The key date...
So, you know, I'm happy that he picked RFK Jr., but still needs to be confirmed, right, for the HHS. But unfortunately, I think the strategy is to neutralize RFK Jr. with all these other appointments.
And protect the pharma lobby.
And then the key date to watch is December 31st, the PREP Act declaration for COVID in the US is supposed to expire.
Once it expires, The farmers can't use PrEP Act as a liability shield for COVID jabs, so it's interesting to see what's going to happen after that.
Now, they can still say that the COVID jabs are now fully approved, but they were using PrEP Act quite extensively in their legal defense up to now, and there are 20,000 legal cases pending, so it's interesting to me to see what happens with that declaration.
Is it going to be extended, or is it going to be terminated?
You know, which other prep-act declarations, again, to see what other scams they're trying to push on you.
So that would be my message.
Oh, right.
Yeah.
Well, that is interesting.
I mean...
I've been trying to push...
Well, you saw my substack about everything is a conspiracy, including Donald Trump.
I tend to get pushback, even from people on our side of the argument, whatever side that is, people who want to believe that Trump is going to save us, that he's the white hat that somehow manoeuvred his way through the deep state and got elected a second time.
Yeah.
Yeah, well, that's rather my view.
And I suppose, you know, you shall know them by their fruits.
I mean, it's all very well saying he's great.
But then, if he were that great, surely he wouldn't be making these picks.
Yeah, no, he's definitely part of this.
Of the same cabal.
That's my opinion.
People can say whatever, that he's going to save them.
No, he's not going to save anyone.
He is continuing the same strategy.
He's continuing pushing the same BS about operational speed.
Well, now my favorite on Twitter before we go is, you know, there's this whole propaganda part and a lot of operatives, I think, and bots pushing this propaganda that, oh, but he saved us all from FEMA camps.
We would have been locked down forever if there was no vaccine, but he stopped the pandemic.
It is total nonsense, okay?
Especially given that we have an extremely armed population here.
So, yeah, we were all going to be herded to FEMA camps, right?
Door to door?
Try it in my neighborhood and see what happens.
Of course, it's nonsense.
Nobody was going to hurt anyone into FEMA camps.
They can still imprison anyone in FEMA camps if they wish to.
The law is unchanged.
So nothing changed.
And this is just a propaganda to say that, you know, Trump saved you.
Also, you remember what was Trump's biggest achievement, allegedly, on the military front?
He created the first new branch of the military.
Do you remember what it was?
Oh, yeah, the Space Force.
Space Force.
And have you looked...
Space Force seems to be the branch of the military which has been given control of weather manipulation.
Oh, really?
Ah, yeah, yeah, okay.
And sort of spraying and things like that.
So again, I don't know how that's going to square with RFK Jr.'s plan to put a stop to chemtrails spraying.
He makes all these noises, but...
No, because, you know, if it's a Space Force and RFK Jr. is head of HHS, well, they have nothing to do with each other.
So, like, how is he going to do that?
You know?
So, and yeah, they are doing horrible things to the weather manipulation.
We've had now on the West Coast about 10 days of no sunlight whatsoever.
We've had rain, continuous rain, And this is unusual, even for the winter in California, it's unusual.
So continuous rain, horrible, horrible weather, no sunlight.
And I know, and they've been spraying, I even took pictures, they've been spraying right before this system came in from the ocean.
And I have, I took pictures of bizarre rainbows, like rainbow shaped like a, almost like this, you know, not your usual But kind of like flat rainbow because they've sprayed a whole bunch of garbage in the atmosphere.
And then right after we have this incredible system that we haven't seen the sun in 10 days now.
You know, so...
You know, it's funny.
People around the world are thinking, I thought it was just me.
I thought it was just in England or in Wales or they were doing this stuff.
It's in California as well.
Uh-huh.
Do you think that...
Oh, it's like you see them going off the Pacific Coast, you know, because the air moves from Pacific Coast to the land.
When they have a system coming, they will start spraying like crazy to make it, you know, huge.
That's what they're doing.
I'm thinking, you know, that Mamas and the Papas song, California Dreaming?
I think it was predictive programming.
All the leaves are brown and the sky is grey.
And the sky is grey.
Uh-huh.
Yep.
So that's in your consciousness.
And now it's coming back and you're thinking, yeah, well, it was always like that, even in 1967. Uh-huh.
I mean, they were not spraying then.
Like, you know, you can see the pictures from then.
The skies were not like this.
So, yeah.
But again, you know, this whole Space Force, I mean, that's probably a discussion for another show.
You should rest.
But, yeah, like...
I should, shouldn't I? Huh?
I should.
Mm-hmm.
You're right.
Yeah.
I'm not liking that.
I think I won't go hunting tomorrow.
I think I better cancel.
No, no, don't go hunting.
Go check it out just to make sure you don't have anything serious going on.
But I think you just have a mild concussion.
Did you hit your head when you fell?
Well, yeah, you sort of whack.
When you fall, you sort of...
Yeah, like a whiplash.
Yeah, okay.
So, yeah, I just lie down, drink lots of fluids...
Don't do anything.
Don't read.
Don't watch TV. I know it's boring, but, you know, play some music.
I have to read or something.
I may not read a book, surely.
Or maybe, like, listen to a book.
Yeah.
I could do that.
I could do that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Good.
Sasha, remind us where we can read your stuff and find you.
Yeah, so my main content is on Substack.
It's called due diligence and art.
You can search for my name on Substack.
And I'm also on Twitter X. But I don't, you know, I sometimes put posts, larger posts there, but mostly I'm just reading stuff there.
So, and retweeting and finding funny memes also.
Yeah, Sasha's great, everyone.
Read her stuff.
And yeah, and support me.
You know where to find me and stuff.
And if I'm still alive, just keep supporting me.
Thank you.
Take care of yourself!
I know, but you know, Sasha, I honestly can't live with myself not doing the things I love.
I'd rather kind of die doing what makes me happy.
But at the same time, obviously, I don't want to take risks so great that, you know, stupid, stupid, stupid things.
Like, I think probably with my eye going the other way, that's probably a sign.
Yeah, no, don't go hunting tomorrow.
No.
No.
That would be a bad idea.
Okay.
Alright.
Thank you, Sasha, for your good advice.
Alright.
See you.
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