Matt Landman is the producer of geoengineering agenda documentary ‘Frankenskies’, which highlights atmospheric aerosol injections, weather modification programs and worldwide chemtrails. Matt hosts conferences and events on the subject and relentlessly continues to speak out against the ongoing ‘lies in our skies’.https://frankenskies.com
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Welcome.
To the Deling Pod, Matt Landman.
It's been far too long, the time, not having you on the show.
But I was thinking about it, that maybe three years ago, I was one of those, I was sort of on the fence about Chemtrails.
It felt like I quite liked it as the conspiracy theory too far that annoyed all the normies.
But I thought, no, they can't really be spraying us from the skies.
But you've been down that particular rabbit hole since forever.
When did you first latch on to chemtrails?
Hey, James.
Thanks.
Thanks for having me on, and yeah, it's, it had always been one of those, um, the mum, you don't talk about that one, right?
It's easier to talk about the other stuff, but Kim Trails was, like, the one, and it's got the dirty word, and it's easy to, you know, dis, it's easy to dismiss, you know?
Um, for me, it's been now ten years.
I was just thinking about it recently.
Um, 2014, I, learned about it by firsthand experience.
And when I started to dig, well, I'll tell the story really quickly.
I've walked many walks of life.
I've had like 50 different jobs.
Never thought I'd be an activist.
I'd always consider myself a pretty normal person.
I grew up on the East Coast of the US and ended up on the West Coast trying to go to film school and all this.
I went to grad school and got a master's in business administration, graduated top of my class, and I was working in finance after that.
And it was all miserable.
You know, you're like, I mean, sorry to people that work nine to fives.
I know it's tough, but it's like slavery, honestly.
And so I was working in a cubicle and I got offered a job to basically make 10% of what I was making, but work on an organic farm.
And I took that job and there I witnessed weather engineering firsthand.
We are in the midst, it was in Northern California.
We're in the midst of a very tragic four year drought where we usually get this seasonal rain that lasts like four months.
And we hadn't been getting in our seasonal rain in the Pacific Northwest, where it's usually the seasonal deluge, you know, where the redwoods and it's really moist, you know, Seattle culture and all that and grunge music and all that sort of stuff from the rainy seasons.
So, I was out in the field harvesting pumpkins because we were due for a big storm, and some out there literally harvesting squash, harvesting pumpkins in mid-October, maybe a little early October, but we were harvesting early because this big storm was coming.
We were due 100% chance of rain for one week, and it was so dry that these amphibious creatures were coming out from underneath my house.
Frogs, salamanders, and The entire ecosystem was ready for this storm because we needed it and these big black storm clouds are coming off the ocean and I'm out there harvesting pumpkins and there's this radar that says that we're gonna get this big storm and so I'm out there with my co-workers and rain boots and raincoat and as this big storm approached and I can where I worked I could hear the waves crashing so I'm like Northern California very rural on the coast and farm community and
And as the storm came off the coast, these planes showed up.
And for me, I'm a statistics guy, I grew up a lot doing stock market stuff, and I'm really good at analyzing numbers, and it doesn't take a genius or a statistician to latch onto this, but it was a statistical anomaly, the irregular pattern of appearance of the air traffic.
All of a sudden, whereas we'd see one or two planes in a given day out on the farm, there was about 20 planes that showed up on the edge of the storm system, and they were zigzagging on the front of the storm front, leaving persistent linear cirrus cloud formations out the back of the jets.
I didn't know anything about it.
I'd never heard the word chemtrails.
I'd never heard of this theory or anything like that, and I watched it firsthand.
These lines, this grid pattern, the storm came, and nothing came out of the storm.
I was fine with that at the time.
I didn't get rained on, the food didn't rot out in the field, and I continued on with my life.
But then, about a week later, I was on the phone with a friend that lived back home in D.C., and I was venting to them about how people in my circle, a lot of younger kids, this is a college town, they didn't know about 9-11.
And he was like, yeah, cut him some slack, Matt.
There were like two when that happened.
But what about chemtrails?
It's right in their face.
And I didn't know the word, and he was like, you don't know that word, Matt, you woke me up to, you put me on the path to realizing 9-11 was an inside job, because of documentaries and this and that, and he goes, Matt, you gotta go look it up.
So I looked it up, and started really putting my eyes to the skies, and then I started digging and digging and watching all the documentaries available, and I got this, you know, passion, or my, you know, whatever, I think it's my destiny, honestly, but I started making flyers and trying to tell people about it.
And the thing was, James, that nobody cared.
Nobody cared.
And if anybody did care, they'd say, oh, that's really high up and it's not impacting us or oh, that's just a conspiracy theory.
And if people had heard the word chemtrails, they were ready to laugh at you and not be on your side, you know?
So I tried to share some documentaries with some of my friends, families and peers and whatnot.
And I grew up in the DC area, so I'm dealing with a tough crowd too.
And people would scoff at it because there'd be, you know, it wouldn't be super fact-based and there'd be these portions in these documentaries and whatnot where people could dismantle it and disregard it.
I can get back to this later, but it's called the turd in the punch bowl.
It's like you have a nice party and everything's perfect, but you got this punch and there's a turd in it and no one's going to talk about anything else except for there was poop in your punch bowl for years, right?
Well, that's what happens with some of these truth or documentaries.
Everything's perfect until you look like a nutter halfway through and then people can turn it off and be like, those people are just crazies.
So I realized that another documentary had to be made and I was going to be the one to make it.
I never thought I'd be like going on radio shows or hosting conferences.
I didn't really want to Can I just go back to the story of the pumpkin harvest?
I feel really sad for those frogs and those salamanders coming out thinking, it's gonna be rain at last!
I made the movie come out in 2017 and I've been trying to push out the truth ever since.
And that's my story.
I can I just go back to to the story of the the pumpkin harvest?
I feel really sad for those frogs and those salamanders coming out thinking it's going to be rain at last.
We've been waiting for this.
Indeed.
And being frustrated by pure evil.
Let's face it.
I mean, it's the sort of thing Mr. Burns does, isn't it, on The Simpsons?
And there's a reason for that.
Because Mr. Burns is written by people who are inside all this.
They know what's going on.
Indeed.
And I think that the Mr. Burns and the Mr. Bill Gates, these boogeymen, are created through the mainstream, through the evil boardroom that comes together and tries to enslave humanity, whatever.
These boogeymen are created so that we have, because we're very powerful spiritual beings and we don't need to be locked into fear, but it gives us this arch-nemesis to point the energy at and to give the fear energy, too.
You know, like, oh no, Bill Gates is doing this and Bill Gates is doing that and Elon Musk is doing this.
It's part of the game and I think that the Montgomery Burns scenario is to make this, like, trillionaire story of, like, this untouchable, you know, evildoer that's, you know, doing these horrible things to us so that we have something to pinpoint and target our aggression and fear and whatnot towards.
Kind of like the Trump scenario.
It's like getting all these emotions out and people are now voting out of hatred.
You know, it's not the right way to go about it.
And yeah, the poor, Frogs and the trees and the birds and all of it, they expect rain and they're waiting for it and instead they get aluminum oxide which dissipates the rain.
You can seed clouds by putting particles in the stratosphere that the water is attracted to and then comes down.
You can seed clouds but you can do the opposite as well with aluminum.
You can spread out the moisture and make it not rain and then the aluminum actually messes with the plants and messes with the bees because the animals and humans alzheimer's and dementia and prevents the trees from uptaking water and makes them drought stricken aluminum oxide that's being sprayed is actually a patented fire accelerant so it makes fires go it's really bad for the trees so yeah the poor plants and wildlife like they didn't sign up for this
i mean i get that humanity needs to be enslaved because we're powerful spiritual beings and they don't want us to realize who we truly are but these poor animals and bugs, they don't deserve any of this.
I mean, neither do we.
No, no, I was going to say, neither do we.
But OK, Matt, I'm so glad I've got you here, because even on social media, when I'm talking to fellow awake people, there is a significant, I mean, I would say they're not the majority, but there is a significant chunk of people Who, they know that the vaccines were in fact kill shots, you know, part of a depopulation program.
They know about 9-11.
They know about JFK.
They know about the moon landings.
They might even know about the Beatles, although that's pushing it maybe.
But some of them just won't go to chemtrails, even though all they've got to do is look up and see, like I do when I tell this story.
When I go walking the dog, I mean this doesn't happen anymore because now what happens is we get chemtrails all the time, day and night.
But say a year ago, I'd go and walk the dog in the morning, blue skies, and then you'd see the planes spraying.
And this wasn't a contrail because the contrail was persistent.
And it spread out.
And you knew that within an hour, two hours, that mist would have spread out into this cloud cover, and that was the end of your blue sky day.
Now, I can see it.
I'm not some sort of special sky observer with special sky observing skills that give me special privileges which enable me to understand what's going on where normal people can't.
Anyone can do this stuff.
So, why are people still in denial, would you say?
Well, that's a great question.
And yes, I do see what you're witnessing over in the UK, where the transition from the blue skies to the grid pattern to the haze, it's not as easy anymore.
It used to be a lot easier.
Where I live, it is easier.
And in a lot of places in the world, it's a little easier because what they'll do is they'll clear the sky, make it blue so that they have a fresh slate for their chemicals to mix together and what have you.
But in the UK, they'll pull in a cloud layer and do it all above the clouds and you can't see it all unraveling.
I think it was J. Edgar Hoover, back to the US politician.
Yeah, we know him.
Yeah, I think it was a quote from him that said, when the general population is faced with a conspiracy so vast, they just can't accept it and they have to turn back to disbelief.
And the chemtrails If you do the math, I mean, on a given day, they're spending millions of dollars just over your city, and it's just so big, and it's so vast, and it's like, all these questions pop into people's heads, and I get the exact same questions.
Verbatim, I can make a list of a dozen questions that are the ones that come to people's heads first.
Why would they do it to themselves?
You know, that's the first one.
And then people are like, well, they wouldn't do it to themselves.
And it's like people don't grasp the extremities at which they'll go to.
And the answer to that one is, well, they know what's being sprayed, where, when, how.
Then they obviously know the antidote.
And if they're trillionaires, they know how to do blood transfusions and to get these things out of them.
They know what's going on and they're not in the dark like us.
Like we're scrambling to figure out what it is and how to chelate it and all this sort of stuff.
When they decided to start doing this to themselves and their family, they know how to also prevent themselves from having the health effects as well.
So it's like there's answers to the questions.
When people don't know all the who, what, why, where, when, how, which is very hard to get all these answers to something like this.
It's very covert.
There's a lot of misinformation.
When you don't have all the answers, you can't go and pass it on to your friends, family, and peers because they're going to ask you those questions.
And if you don't have the answers, then you're just a conspiracy nutter.
And then they get to dismantle you for not having all the info.
Right.
So because people don't have all the answers and they can't get all the answers very clearly, it's easier for them just to, just to, just to, just to.
Just set it aside and dismantle it and think that it's mistruth.
But yeah, like you said, when you can see it right in front of your face, and I encourage people just to look up, if you just keep your eye to the sky, I don't care where you live, even if you're in the UK, keep your eye to the sky, you'll see planes side by side, one at the same altitude, one's not spraying, one is, and you'll have these aha moments where you can't look at the sky the same anymore.
But it's a great question, why are so many people still in the dark about it?
Maybe they haven't seen my movie Frankenskies.
Maybe they need to start with the basics and then slowly... I think one thing is, it's a deep, deep rabbit hole.
And a lot of people are drug into it too fast, too much, too extreme.
And so then they get to push it away, you know?
And a lot of it's in a fear frequency and whatnot.
And it's like you need to start with the absolute basics.
The weather is engineered.
It was common knowledge that they could see clouds in the 70s and 60s and 80s and that information, knowledge has been swept under the rug so it could be weaponized.
Why don't they make it rain over forest fires when they can?
Why don't they dismantle hurricanes when they know how to?
There's all these questions that should pique the interest of the observer and start to, but it's just like you brought up the moon landing.
How come so many people when faced with the facts will disregard it?
It's because they don't want to Tell the world or convince themselves or their ego that they've been fooled to such a degree really is the answer.
Yeah.
Yeah, you're right about that turd in the punchbowl factor that I've noticed this when I'm trying to to explain to a normie, let's say what the world the true nature of the world and say you're talking about Vaccines, for example.
I've just been reading this book on the history of vaccines.
And it's really, really good.
It's a damning indictment of the corruption and lies that were part of the vaccine industry right from the start, right from Louis Pasteur and right from Edward Jenner.
And there was one detail in this book that was slightly wrong.
The book mentions that Edward Jenner's first patient subsequently died.
And you think, well, okay, so he must have died of the injection.
But actually, he died in his sixties or something.
Now, that point is a hostage to fortune, because when you try and relay that information to a normie, they're going to discover this, and they're going to discover that This fact was wrong, and therefore they're going to write off the entire book.
And in the same way, a lot of normies think that, why would they do this to themselves?
They think it's such a killer argument that the entire Chemtrails conspiracy theory is debunked, because nobody would ever do it to themselves.
So I'm glad that you've explained that one.
Tell me another one.
There is much debate on whether this stuff is being done by commercial passenger aircraft, whether they've got a sort of special chemtrail release button, or whether it's being done by dedicated aircraft, or whether it's even being carried out by kind of sort of alien technology drone type things.
What is the truth?
It's a great question.
I don't have all the answers.
I'll tell you what I have for that.
Just to back up on the previous note, people don't grasp it that we're in a spiritual journey.
This is a spiritual experience that we're having and we're resonant beings of frequency.
So when you come across information, I like to tell people, take what resonates and leave the rest.
Not everyone's going to be perfect.
Maybe some people are planting misinformation on purpose because they know the way that people will react to it.
So that's one thing.
But also, these normies or whatever you want to call people, I hate to be so divisive and do this othering thing because we get othered so much or whatever, but we'll just use these categories for now.
Everybody's together on this, and I love everybody, but we're all on our own path and waking up on our own time, so let's not try to you know, push people away too much.
But what I don't grasp is the government, I mean, call it the New World Order, call it the US government, the queen, whatever, they'll show their turds in the punch bowl all day long, but people will still trust them, right?
So like, they're not 100%.
Not even close.
I mean, they'll retract things and literally you'll do a freedom of information request and 30 years later, oh, we were lying.
Whoops.
It's like, oh, but we trust you about this.
No problem.
Or even the, you know, the whole lockdowns, the vaccines and Fauci is now being disclosed that he was nonsense and people are just like, oh yeah, sure.
So that's just wild.
It's just wild that they'll dismantle the truth, but then the lies, as long as it's coming from a place of authority.
There's a quote that I like.
You can either take authority as your truth, or you can take truth as your authority.
The choice is yours.
Personally, I take truth as my authority.
It's a frequency.
As I resonate and elevate my consciousness to that vibration of truth, there's other truths on that frequency.
I'm just waiting there to become self-evident as I, you know, vibrate myself to that, if that makes sense.
So, regarding the... is it passenger jets?
This is kind of a rabbit hole, but first, everyone has to go and put themselves in the evil boardroom, these evil think tanks, where these... the...
Whatever, there's different groups that come together, but they're all trillionaires, whatever, it's the Bohemian Grove, Bilderberg, whatever you want to call it, Club of Rome, these trillionaires come together to plan how they can stay in power and how they can, what, push transhumanism on the world until Agenda 2050, whatever it is, it's very weird and dark.
So you have to take away your heart and your soul and put yourself in this evil think tank, firstly.
And they go even a century out.
It's like, oh, hey, we've got to get rid of the leaded gasoline, but we're going to blame... And the children were getting sick from leaded gasoline, leaded petroleum, all over the world, spewing it on neighborhoods.
We're going to blame that they were eating the lead paint.
This is like these little think tanks.
They have these little ideas, and then they bounce things around.
It's like, when are we going to go to Iran?
Oh, we'll wait until then.
You know, all these sort of things.
So, for instance, with the lead paint, they knew 5G was going to come out, and that lead paint would be protective, and that their infrastructure wouldn't work, and we could use it, and it would be everywhere and cheap.
So they blamed children for eating it, and then took it out of petroleum, made unleaded gasoline, didn't tell anybody that the gas companies were actually making people sick.
I mean, these are all very deep, diabolical, well-thought-out agendas, okay?
We're gonna put fluoride in the water going all the way back to like World War II and stuff.
This is very well thought.
We're gonna fluoridate the population for decades until their pineal gland disconnects them from the intuition.
This is very complex stuff, which makes you think, are they, you know, being consulted by evil aliens or what?
Right?
All of it's really weird and dark and I think the evil alien agenda starts to unravel and maybe these are demons that are being seanced and talked to and all this sort of stuff.
So, in the evil boardroom, in the think tank, you've got trillionaires, okay?
They own the flight apps that show who's brain or whatever.
People download the apps on their phone, you know, Flight Tracker or whatever.
If you were a trillionaire trying to pull the wool over everyone's eyes regarding this, and doing a really good job, mind you, I mean, like, the majority definitely does not even think or will ever grasp In the near future.
I mean, people are slowly waking up, but like the chemtrails thing is very, they're blinded by it.
But how?
Propaganda, propaganda, NASA, the, I mean, video games, commercials, children's cartoons, you name it, the propaganda is so deep.
So these, what I envision what's going on is when airplanes are getting older, They, instead of going to the airplane junkyard, which we never see photos of this or anything like that, they're bought up by the spraying companies.
Okay?
You've got NASA.
NASA has a budget of 90 million U.S.
dollars per day.
They have a chemtrail program.
Everyone wants to know who, what, why, where, when, how.
The who, it encompasses a lot.
It's the U.S.
military industrial complex.
It's the NASA, who has that budget I just said.
Also, The Department of Energy has a tropospheric aerosol program that they launched publicly, hidden in plain sight, in 2001, right before the biggest distraction we've ever seen, one of the biggest distractions of our generation.
So I believe that the Ryanair, the EasyJet, these planes, they are bought with their logos on them.
And then their outfit to be spraying planes.
Are the commercial jets outfit with spraying tanks and all that sort of stuff?
I'm coming to the conclusion that this is very doubtful.
You'd have so many people involved that there would be more accountability and transparency through whistleblowing and all that sort of stuff.
And I mean, the passenger jets can only fit so much.
Right?
I think that where I live, there's drones galore.
And I can attest for where I live, firstly, and then I can tell you about traveling around the world and speaking to other people.
Where I live, there's an international airport.
The planes going into the international airport never have anything coming out of the back.
No control, no nothing.
Ever.
The ones going the opposite direction to a secret base that looks to be only like 50 kilometers away or something.
They go over the farm valley that I live in, and they are very low to the ground.
They're very low, and they're smaller, and they're drones.
And they are spraying day and night and we have this Nexrad big golf ball thing on our mountainside here that's like a shrunk down heart facility and they'll spray and then they'll zap it and it becomes this rippled fish scale thing and you can see it all unraveling.
They've got barium release rockets that are patented by NASA in the late 70s and you'll see the trajectory of the rocket go up and then it'll find its guidance of where it wants to go and then it'll change its trajectory.
If you just keep your eye out of the sky, you can see the rockets interacting with the drones.
And if they miss a spot, these drones are doing U-turns to mix these chemicals together.
If you watch, they're short trails, medium trails, long trails.
Each one has different chemicals, different properties, and you'll see them side by side mixing in.
Or they'll fill in the gaps, like I said, by doing a twirly whatever process.
Primarily, I feel that it's drones.
Do they have bigger planes, outfit with sprayers?
Yes.
Do they have passenger jets filling in the gaps?
Likely not.
I don't think that that's happening.
I've gone full circle on that whole thing, and people are sending me flight radar tracking things, and it's like, this says that it's that, and I zoomed in with my camera, and it says Ryanair, EasyJet on it.
I think those are old planes that they left the logos on because they're smart.
Of course they're going to try to continue to trick us and deceive us and what have you.
So that's my answer to that.
I think that's the most logical one.
I've spoken to, um, and I'm working on a sequel, Franklin's Guys 2, and I'm trying to find airplane mechanics and people that have worked on planes.
And I've found people that are awake or, you know, not normies who have worked in airports for decades, you know, and they can tell me, I've been trying to figure out how much jet fuel really goes on in those planes because the wings don't seem to be full of jet fuel at all and there's little bladders throughout and there is some jet fuel and I think there's compressed air being used to spin these high bypass turbofan jet engines to create the lift over the wings while they're in the air.
Jet fuel is supplemented.
Is there hot air being blasted out of the engine?
I don't think it's as hot or as often as people think.
I think once it's at cruising altitude, they don't need the combustion so much, but this is all being investigated and I'm still trying to find the right person to interview for Franken-skies too.
But long story short, it's primarily drones.
They fly them lower to the ground so that you think, "Oh, that's a really high plane." It must be because it's so small.
Like that's just how we perceive it.
And then, um, they also have a whole fleet of planes that are retired that look like something for us to think, oh, that must be X, Y, Z. And then they own the flight apps things.
And then, you know, they deceive us all the time by making us think that it's a, You know, FedEx flight overhead.
We're not on that FedEx plane.
We don't know where it's really going or what it's really doing.
All we have is the little perspective of what's going on over our home or where we're at.
And generally speaking, I think we're being deceived every which way.
What you're saying intuitively... Oh, hang on.
You're hearing my voice echoing.
Are you... I can hear my voice.
I don't have an echo.
Okay.
I can hear it.
What you're saying makes a lot of sense to me.
And it's weird that there is so much kind of aggressive debate within the sceptical community about these points of detail.
Almost as if as if the fact that one cannot resolve this argument Automatically means that chemtrails are not a real thing because if they were blah blah blah it's again people people are really desperate not to believe that chemtrails exist I think probably because of all the conspiracies against us.
It's almost the most nakedly evil because spraying people constantly from the skies with poison is is like a It's like a sort of dystopian fantasy.
It's not something that people want to accept could possibly be.
It is a dystopian fantasy.
It's been plugged all throughout Hollywood.
There's a movie called Snowpiercer, and then I think it's a Netflix series now, where the movie starts off with a grid of chemtrail planes.
And then it says global warming got so bad that they had to try whatever they could to slow down the heating of the sun, and they accidentally threw the world into an ice age, and now the only remnants of humanity on a high-speed train going around the world and whatever.
One thing to note, and I'm glad you mentioned that, like, the people take one little piece.
It's like, well, if you can't agree on where it's coming from, then we're just gonna dismantle your whole argument.
Whenever there's infighting, okay, there's infighting In all sorts of groups.
Every single name and activist group, and I can tell you there's infighting based on certain topics, right?
Um, like, is, um, like the Boo Champ, um, the whole story of germ theory and all that stuff.
Sometimes, at the end of the day, it doesn't matter.
Like, let's back up and know that we're being lied to, we're being, um, targeted to be injected with a bioweapon to alter our DNA, and it's poisonous.
Does all that matter at the end of the day?
So in fighting regarding, like some will say, well, at different altitudes, there's different barometric pressures, and some planes can leave a contrail.
And people will get down to the nitty-gritty and say, well, that plane must be at a certain altitude with a certain barometric pressure.
Or, oh, if you can't answer, like you said, who exactly is spraying – There's a handful of intergovernmental organizations.
NASA with a budget of $90 million has a fleet of planes and drones and helicopters and ground-based stations and all this money.
And that $90 million a day primarily goes towards their chemtrail program.
So that's like one aspect of it.
But when you see like deep, deep infighting over petty issues, right?
When really this is a war on consciousness.
It's a spiritual battle.
Either you're on the light or you're on the dark, you know?
And like, we can easily get along.
Like, you and I could sit down for a cup of tea and be like, well, we don't really see eye to eye on that issue, but we're here representing truth, and we're buddies, and cheers to that!
Like, I can tell that we could get along very easy, and it's like, one little aspect of one little thing shouldn't make us Not friends.
Shouldn't make us enemies or anything like that.
So when there's infighting in something so delicate like chemtrails, I tend to question the motives of people.
Just want to make that clear.
Use your discernment.
Ask your gut.
Cultivate discernment within your gut.
Speak to your gut.
Talk to your heart.
Got brain connection and whatnot and the truth will become self-evident.
But if you find people in fighting in a movement, I tend to you know, Ask your gut where that's coming from.
Well it well indeed you say I mean, it's an interesting point you make there.
So so you talked about truth being a sort of Vibrational level that you're trying to attain whereas from my perspective as a Christian truth is is is a The essence of God or part of God.
And when you fly from truth, you're actually flying from the divine.
You're flying from our Creator.
Now, you've chosen a different way of understanding how the world works.
But on this issue, and probably quite a few others, we are totally on the same page.
And you've got to go With wherever the truth leads you and sometimes you're not going to get the whole truth all at once.
But you can you can agree on the basics like those bastards are spraying the fuck out of us.
I mean, that's it's it's a Durr thing.
Can you tell me what?
What are they spraying us with?
Because I as I as I as I We've gathered so far, it seems to me, partly they're spraying us with stuff to modify the weather, partly with stuff that poisons us, and partly, this is what I discovered from Ilana Friedland, I don't know where you are with her, but they're spraying us with these kind of nanobot things called Morgellons.
So, what are they doing?
What's the purpose of all this?
So the what is is deep as well, and to back up really quick about Christianity, I firmly believe that truth and Christ consciousness are synonyms.
So we could have a great conversation about that, and how Christ consciousness is truth, and how people are looking to elevate their consciousness to vibrate on that level.
What is being sprayed?
Definitely the weather is being engineered, like you said, and where I live they'll spray barium salt, aluminum oxide, these are patented fire accelerants, they'll spray them on the trees.
Then they'll use arsons on the ground or precipitate lightning through lasers and make fires in the forest.
And then engineer windstorms on top of those fires instead of engineering rain.
And then they'll continue to spray patented fire accelerants and move these fires around.
And then Agenda 2030 tells us we can't be on that land because it's fire-prone.
That's a big part of the agenda.
Engineering the weather is a whole big aspect of it.
So aluminum, barium, strontium, People have had to take science into their own hands because we're not being represented properly by our institutions.
And so, different groups have come together.
There's a group in Kingman, Arizona, the desert here in the U.S.
They came together, about 30 people, about 10 years ago now.
They were seeing the grid patterns in the sky in Arizona because it's very easy to see it in the desert when it's cobalt blue skies and all of a sudden the planes show up.
And they were testing their soil, their rainwater.
So you see the crazy grid patterns and then it rains the next day.
It's a perfect opportunity to get the good rainwater analysis.
They're testing their hair, their blood, the soil, and the rain.
And they're all coming up with very high spikes of aluminum, barium, strontium, cadmium as well.
So these certain things are sprayed to mess with the weather, create drought, steer systems.
People like to ask, well, where are they getting it from?
I think most of it comes from the process of burning coal.
So coal is burned and the smokestacks filter the coal.
And then those bladders, they're supposed to be rinsed out and put in a bladder and then buried underground.
It's like a toxic byproduct of the burning of coal.
It's called coal fly ash.
If the smokestacks didn't have these filters, it'd just be black soot going in the sky.
It'd be really gross.
So this coal fly ash gets put on trains, goes right to U.S. Air Force bases.
I've had people speak at my conferences, follow the money, and go straight there.
So what I believe is they have a filtering process at the Air Force bases where they can pull from the coal fly ash their nanoparticulate, aluminum, barium, cadmium, lithium.
lead, mercury, whatever it is, because it's a byproduct of the burning of the coal.
So where it's coming from is primarily that.
And then activists Anne Fillmore in Oregon was measuring these plumes of pink haze coming off the ocean and showed really high levels of lithium.
Dick Gregory, an American activist, was researching the manganese being sprayed on the ghettos in New York because they would spray and then everyone would start fighting each other.
Manganese is also attributed to and likely the only thing behind mad cow disease.
People also, when they work near or live near manganese mine, there's a very high percentage of violent crime and violence.
Manganese makes you violent and like mad cow crazy.
Wow!
So, there's manganese can be sprayed on a population to agitate them, create riots.
Lithium gets sprayed on populations to make them passive or whatever lithium does to you, you know, different strokes for different folks.
Well, it's an antidepressant, isn't it?
It's a chemical kosh, really, is what it is.
Yes, so people are sprayed with different things, and if they put the metals in the sky and then zap them with a certain frequency, now it's frequency control, and you're in kind of this soup of a metallic haze, and then the frequency is embedded through it, and it can dictate your or attempt to dictate your mood and your brain waves and whatnot.
I've also witnessed where there's a celestial event and all of a sudden they'll come out of the blue and spray and zap the sky.
So now we've got a frequency sky in between the celestial event because I think different celestial events give humans, us humans downloads and whatnot.
And so they're blocking different things.
So imagine the celestials of the full moon and the stars and all and all their progressions, Imagine that as like a beautiful symphony, right?
Well, we're supposed to get every bit of it, right?
And we get it resonating in our cells and it gives us these upgrades in our DNA or whatever.
But instead, the powers that be will lay a blanket of aluminum in between us and the music and then zap it with their own frequency.
And then the symphony is all messed up.
We get it jammed up when it's supposed to be Um, you know, the best part of the song and we don't get the perfect download.
It's like turning the radio on and off and flipping the channels while the song is on.
You don't get the full download.
Um, so there's that.
There's a lot of different things going on at once regarding the spraying of nanotech and more gallons.
I've yet to see that be actually proven.
And when things are in a very deep fear space where I've met people, so many people being at it for 10 years and having almost 90,000 followers on Facebook.
Which if I wasn't censored so bad, I'd think that'd be a much, much bigger number.
Yeah, I think you'd have a few more.
Yeah.
Once I got to like 20,000, I saw the grip turn on and different posts were just getting zero and whatnot.
It's very interesting to watch the algorithm play out.
And I've lost, you know, my TikTok and my YouTube and my Instagram and all this, but bless the powers that be that I'm still able to have a Facebook account.
So please find me over there, Matt Landman.
But I have a nice gauge of where people are at.
And so many people come to me completely spun out, James, because frequency of fear is very powerful.
It's dismantling.
It's not empowering.
It is so many things.
If you watch my movie, Franken-skies, which so many people don't even want to watch it because they're worried it's going to put them in a space of fear and make them feel like that there's nothing that they can do.
Right?
And nobody wants to be completely dismantled.
They'd rather just turn a blind eye to something.
But Franken-skies, the movie, available at frankenskies.com. is actually empowering and uplifting and makes you want to share it with other people.
Um, it's a historical chronological timeline starting in the 1920s.
It goes through the basics.
And so if a normie, I've had people co-workers that are making fun of me for years.
I finally sit them down.
They watched the first 15 minutes.
They look at me with wide eyes and they go, wow, they've been doing this for a long time, huh?
Because by the time the movie gets to the 1960s and it's in Vietnam and it's very, It's commonplace that they're flooding the Ho Chi Minh Trail in Vietnam and they're sharpening their tools to be where they're at today.
It's self-evident.
So anything that puts you in a space of fear, which let's just back up.
During the lockdowns, I started realizing and learning what was going on.
It was very clear to me, like people were messaging me over and over what's going on, what's going on, what's going on.
And it was very early and I hadn't even created an opinion.
And I went out back in my yard with my chickens and I meditated with these chickens.
And I literally asked my gut, is this total hogwash?
Is there anything really happening?
And I came to the conclusion that it was all bollocks.
I hope I said that word right.
So I'm here trying to share with the world, you know, like don't be completely dismantled.
I had a really close friend who's working in a grocery store juice bar in Northern California.
He had to wear the mask, hand sanitize every five seconds.
He knew the truth, but when I went to visit him right during the beginning of the lockdowns, He was hunched over and completely dismantled by the frequency of fear.
I went.
I took him out on his lunch break.
I gave him a big hug.
I go, take that stupid mask off.
What is wrong with you?
You know this is all big hoax.
He goes, I know man, but I just can't get over it.
I gave him this big hug.
I left and it's contagious.
Frequency is contagious.
I left and I went home and I was then stuck in this frequency of fear.
I was so afraid to even drive my car that I was going to get in a car accident.
I was going to get pulled over.
All these things and it took me a couple hours To do this full 180, to perceive myself, to see, wow, I'm locked in a frequency of fear, and how I got there, and how contagious and real it is, and how dismantling it is.
It is so real and dismantling to be stuck in fear.
And you can be stuck there for years.
I mean, it's very real.
I see people still wearing the masks, or two masks, out on a jog, you know, today.
To this day, where I live, there's people out there, about 15-20% of my town, still entrenched in fear.
They got very advanced MK-Ultra trauma-based mind control.
They were not deprogrammed, and they're still stuck in that frequency.
So to deeply analyze what the frequency of fear can do to people in the community, truth community, and imagine you're new to this, like you're my grandmother or something.
You come along and someone's like, yeah, Morgellons, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
You're not going to listen to that story ever again.
So there's a lot.
Morgellons are advanced level.
They're sort of PhD level rabbit hole.
I wouldn't introduce them right away.
No.
I've met people with Morgellons, and it's a deep, deep, weird rabbit hole.
If someone asked me professionally, like, where is it coming from, Matt, 100%, I would say, being a statistician and my background and whatnot, I would say most likely it's coming from GMO foods.
Also, probably a lot to do with the GMO foods connected to EMF radiation and all this radiation and whatnot.
Are we being sprayed with nanobots from the chemtrails?
I cannot find enough information to corroborate that.
And when I see that it's so dismantling and fear-based, I got down that rabbit hole.
I interviewed Clifford Carnicom.
Me and Alana Freeland have been really close in all these sort of things, and at one point, I was so afraid of spiderwebs that I wouldn't even go near them, and I thought all the spiderwebs were going to give me more Gallon's Disease, and it was all coming from alien technology from the planes and all this sort of stuff, okay?
If the powers that be wanted to line us up and enslave us and turn us into robots overnight, they would and could.
But I firmly believe that there's karmic processes here.
There's karmic disclosure.
There's a whole world that we live in where things have to go according to a certain set of rules.
I didn't get handed the rule book when I came out of my mom's womb.
I believe that these elite scumbags or whatever, they know the playbook, they know how to do it, and that's why they program people with these disclosure mechanisms.
It's like, no, we told them!
It's like, you told them in a very covert, brainwashing way.
You didn't really tell them the truth.
You know, but they do.
They do plant the information and the ways to get it to the people in a certain way.
But regarding the Morgellons, I think that unless you're very firm in your own spiritual continents and you can really resonate things and test your gut intuition, all these sort of things.
Like, I don't even think it's worth mentioning unless you're very firm in your spirituality and what have you.
I think that enslavement of humanity through transhumanism is going to come in a very different way.
People need to sign up for it.
Literally, get in line for the iPhone 35.
Oh, like the Swedes queuing up for their subcutaneal implants.
Allegedly.
Exactly.
Exactly.
I don't think that it's as... I think that we have to consent.
I think there's a rule of consent here.
Otherwise, they would have just lined up everyone overnight and made everyone... Okay, so let's back up to the lockdowns.
We were never lined up and forced these things.
We were programmed, and yeah, people were going to lose their jobs and all these sort of things.
It could have looked differently, but instead people were coerced, people were manipulated, people were mind-controlled, brainwashed, MKUltra, all these things, but still there was this form of consent, and I think it's part of the rules of the lay of the land.
As I said, I've just got to pop downstairs to put a chicken in the oven, but just one word on behalf of the spiders.
I didn't know that spiders' webs were alleged to be able to transmit more gallons.
All I would say, I'm very pro spider.
If there's a spider in my bath, I will rescue that spider.
And even if it was a deadly spider, like a Sydney funnel web, I think I would generally try and rescue the spider rather than kill it.
That's what I want to say.
So it strikes me.
This is a perfect opportunity to go through some of the other things that people say to persuade themselves that chemtrails aren't real.
So another one I hear, and this is stupid, but let me hear your answer to this question.
A lot of people say, yeah, but if chemtrails were real, There would be whistleblowers, and there would be chemical analysis of the water, and we haven't heard any of this stuff, so... Yeah, I get that one a lot.
And those are people that have nice big hearts, that think we live in a perfect little world where there's
Whistleblower actual whistleblower protection acts and that the and they think that the people that would be working in those industries would all of a sudden just have this heart and want to tell the world so I get this a lot and I've given this a lot of deep thought and I may butcher this because this is something that I analyzed about 10 years ago because everyone says the exact same thing
But what my conclusion and answer is are the people that are doing this brain, number one, they are compartmentalized, they're also on a need-to-know basis, and they also think that they're saving the world.
So they're told that they're doing a good thing and that it's top secret and that That it's a necessary evil to dim the sun because of global warming and the whole Al Gore thing.
We're all going to be underwater.
We're all going to die unless we do this.
They're compartmentalized so they don't know anything outside of it.
It's like being in the army, you know, and who's going to, who's going to protect the whistleblowers?
All right.
Last time I checked anybody, and this is part of, um, the karmic thing.
If you're involved in this karmically, and you've been spraying chemtrails for a decade, and then you all of a sudden want to have a good heart, you've already sold your soul.
It's just that easy for the powers that be to be like, okay, get rid of that guy.
He's gone now.
Because he's already sold his soul.
You've already signed your contract.
You're already part of the institution.
They might even have, like, you programmed to take the pill or whatever.
It's like, Whistleblowers nowadays.
Okay, if anybody's gone down the rabbit hole, really, you look at hydrogen cars or the autism thing and the Florida doctors and how GCMAF was cured, you know, there's these curative measures of macrophage curing of autism.
It was a macrophage overload and there's ways, like the doctors that were curing that stuff, They were able to be taken out because they were they were so public with this knowledge.
Like, if you make a car that doesn't run on gasoline, you're likely not going to make it.
You die.
You die.
Okay, it's very clear that you die.
Now, if those people can get killed overnight, then why are why is a whistleblower So in between where I live, I live in Southern Oregon in the United States in a state.
And then to get into California, we have to go through an agriculture inspection.
And one day I went through the agriculture inspection and this agent of, it basically works almost for the police or whatever.
They inspect each car to make sure you're not bringing in like fruit flies or something that's going to mess with the agriculture of California.
I handed him a chemtrail flyer and then he said, we have to meet.
We met for lunch.
We met, we kept meeting.
He said he has a friend.
Who works at these bases, who loads these compressed chemicals onto these drones.
They take off and go spraying, and he just keeps loading the chemicals.
He knows what he's doing.
He's starting to have a conscious, would like to blow a whistle.
And his friend is trying to convince him to talk to me.
Well, the friend, who does the helping at the Chemtrail plant, or the Air Force Base or whatever, He knows that if he talks, he's gonna get killed.
He knows that there's no protection for him.
Yeah.
So he's not gonna come and talk to me and blow the whistle and do it, but he's thinking about it, but he knows what will happen if he does.
And people have actually reached out to me before, and I don't even know if they're genuine, and they're like, can you offer me 100% protection?
Who am I?
I'm a normal I've started an EMF protection clothing line, so I just sell silver stuff, clothing.
Check me out at sperosperogear.com.
But I'm in no way able to protect anybody.
Guaranteed, if I sat you in a black room and tried to muffle your voice, if the CIA or whatever wanted to know who that person was, they would check my emails.
I'm not in a position to protect anybody, and everyone knows that.
So the answer to your question is, you know, when someone asks me that question is, oh you poor soul, you think that whistleblowers are a thing?
Because honestly, they're not.
And if they were, we would have such deep, like, I mean, the fraud of where the money really goes for Ukraine, or the reality behind the actual election fraud.
I mean, everything that's actually happened in the world is so corrupt, there'd be whistleblowers lining up for each topic, but we don't have that.
Right?
I think we have 99.999% controlled whistleblowers.
Where they come out, they control the narrative to a certain degree, and lead people down a certain way, and then they prevent other whistleblowers from stepping forward, and that's another thing.
So some whistleblowers that maybe want to do it, there's already someone designed to take their place, to relieve that bubble that was about to burst.
So maybe there's a whistleblower that really wants to step forward, and then they have someone hired, That still works for the Air Force, or whatever, to step forward, give the limited amount of information but just enough to quell that need.
But yeah, it's a naive, very sweet stance to think that there's people that just want to line up to risk their lives for the truth, whereas if you realize how deep censorship is, even if their interview was filmed and they were promised safety and then they went to Argentina and never came back, Facebook and whoever else would just delete the video wouldn't even be seen anyways.
You know, the video, things go viral because they want to make them viral.
Everything that I post, if I put it in a fierce slant, it goes crazy.
If I put it in a love empowering slant, it's very hard to get out there.
God bless BitChute and these other platforms for existing.
Please find my movie, Franklin Skies on BitChute.
Thanks.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, I can hear my echoing voice again.
You can't hear any echo at all?
No, can you speak?
OK, here's... OK.
Yeah, whistleblowers is definitely one.
And also, I've noticed deliberate misinformation.
So you'll get... Have you seen the video where, on YouTube, where A guy takes you a tour of his light aircraft and shows you the nozzles where the chemtrails come out.
And it's clearly a kind of design to be shared and then ridiculed and debunked.
Videos like that, because I have such a big social media followership, I can just wait and see how popular it gets, how many people are just sending it to me.
Not to burst everyone's bubble, a couple of states in the United States supposedly banned chemtrails, right?
That's another perfect example of like, it's a naivety test, basically.
And what it does is it's very deep and psychologically dismantling, but it prevents you from becoming an activist because, oh great, someone else is doing it, and oh, I can just write my politician and go back to those Normal ways of being, and I don't have to get my hands dirty and be shunned by my peers and all that sort of stuff.
So it prevents you from action, but also it completely dismantles your hope when it doesn't really happen.
So you get your hopes up and everyone's like, No, July 1st!
July 1st is the date, actually.
July 1st is when Tennessee bans chemtrails.
Not everyone lives in Tennessee.
Tennessee's actually in the South and not very many people are awake in Tennessee.
So come July, August, September, slowly it'll start leaking out on social media or whatever.
Look at my sky.
They're still spraying in Tennessee.
I thought they banned this in Tennessee.
People who think that they would actually ban it in Tennessee are naive too because they don't grasp that it's a new world order.
It's above state level.
It's above country level.
Like Mexico came out and said, we're banning solar geoengineering.
And everyone latched on, oh, I'm going to move to Mexico now.
Everyone, I'm moving to Mexico now.
So good luck with that.
Like it's, it's above Mexico.
This is above country governance, you know?
So, take that into consideration.
Also, anytime anything goes viral, you know, there are things that slip through the cracks, I would like to hope and pray, but generally speaking, if things are reaching, coming across your plate over and over, and they're going viral, and they're, you know, getting a lot of attention, especially on the major platforms, I tend to just question that and try to go with my discernment and be like, well, what does this say to the normies?
And how does this make you feel?
And eventually, you know, like the guy that's showing the sprayers on his little plane or whatever, eventually it'll come out that he's actually just a cloud seeder, that he makes clouds or whatever.
You can, a lot of this is public, very public.
You can, if you have enough money, you can call up a hotline and say, it's my wedding day.
I need you to clear the skies and make it blue skies.
You drop your $500,000 or whatever it is.
And the planes will show up.
They'll seed the clouds early.
They'll make sure you have a clear blue sky for your wedding day.
It's very much mainstream.
So those planes do exist.
They can seed clouds.
They do maneuver systems.
Different states in the United States, they come together and meet and they go, oh, we're going to seed the clouds for the Colorado snow mountains so that we can have a good ski season.
Or, oh, we've got to fill our reservoirs.
We're going to seed some clouds and all this stuff.
Cloud seeding is common knowledge in certain circles, and they do have planes that spray certain things to seed the clouds.
So when they do show up and be like, oh, I'm a Chemtrail pilot, they're just taking the piss, really, and they're making fun of activists, and then a lot of it goes viral, and then people with the normies, with the discernment, they look at it, and they're like, oh, and it does the job.
It gets them rolling their eyes, and then when you come to them with something later, they're like, I know what you people are like.
Yeah.
Have you been able to confirm the story about the video editor who was paid a large sum of money to edit Chemtrails into old movies?
That's a great question.
And that video, it was like in another language.
German, yeah.
And then it went viral.
The way that I see videos like that is, how much did that cost to make?
Like, 10 cents?
Well, it was a Q&A, wasn't it?
Supposedly.
Yeah.
Yeah, supposedly it was a Q&A.
Right.
People are so trusting.
Alright, we have such hearts, and we are very good Genuine beings deep down we have these beautiful spirits, and we want to trust in the world and trust that these people are genuine But how do we know how do we know that that was actually genuine like?
You know that came across my plate so many times.
I started to think That this is going really viral, and if this guy was actually his job Why wouldn't they hire somebody that would keep their mouth shut or or whatever or maybe?
They paid him to disclose it because there's a disclosure part of this all.
Like a lot of these truths are hidden in plain sight for a reason.
Karmic disclosure, whatever it is exactly.
I believe that the powers that be have to give us choice so that there is some sort of consent there.
And then if you decide to walk down the path that makes you get 10 boosters and then they have to put a chip in your brain to interact with the nanobots.
I mean, yeah, there's nanobots, but they're in the jets.
I don't think that they're in the aerosols.
I think that that just makes you not want to go outside.
When people started hearing that Elon Musk's satellites were beaming down 5G from the Starlink, they started researching, when's Starlink going to be over my house?
And then people would, like, order my silver line hoodies to protect themselves and then get the grounding stuff and plug that in and then not go outside and be completely dismantled because this thing is going over the house.
Well, I don't think that that was realistic.
I mean, the 5G carrier wave is measured in millimeters, and if you research it, it can only go a certain distance, and I don't believe that people were being completely cooked by, like, anything that I witness, I try to see, what does this do for humanity?
Is this a disclosure mechanism?
Does this put you in a place of fear?
Where does this put you?
And at the end of the day, my gut says that that's probably engineered for some reason.
This guy's claiming that he goes back in the old Disney films and puts in the lines and the sky and whatnot.
That's a great question, and I'd have to say that I'm like 80% that that was false and 20% that maybe he was genuine.
I can't answer, I don't have all the answers, but I don't know necessarily if that was legitimate.
It seemed a little bit like, like if you're a CIA agent and you're trying to make a viral video, put it in another language, make it seem like it came from the cracks of some foreign country and I'm not really buying it actually.
Well, it'd be nice to... I think it's a good story if true, and if not, well, it doesn't change much.
Let me run a theory by you.
I find that whenever you mention chemtrails on social media, on Twitter, say, Instantly, there are a few arm trail experts who will come forward and tell you that these are in fact contrails, and they're normally ex... they've got a knowledge of aviation, they're often ex-airline pilots or whatever, and they are there to poo-poo.
We have this organization called 77th Brigade, which is a branch of Army Intelligence.
And their job is to provide disinformation on social media and stuff.
And so clearly, there are a lot of 77th operatives all over the chemtrail story.
I mean, it gets deluged.
Any thread gets deluged with these negative comments after a while.
But another of the things that often comes up, and I'm skeptical about its authenticity, there's a famous picture from the Imperial War Museum, which is our kind of museum of World War II and stuff, which shows the skies.
It's a still photograph showing the skies after a dogfight between Spitfires and Messerschmitts, say.
And the sky is filled with these, you know, these lines which purport to show the rolling manoeuvres that the aircraft, the dogfighting aircraft have taken.
I know exactly what photo you're talking about, and my gut also tends to be aligned with your notion that it's fake.
these things you call chemtrails, but they're not.
They're just, just vapor trails or whatever.
I think that photograph is fake.
Have you looked into that one?
I know exactly what photo you're talking about.
And my gut also tends to be aligned with your notion that it's fake.
Sorry, I'm getting a phone call.
Geez.
Sorry about that.
One sec.
Yeah, you do it.
It's fine.
I'm going to let it ring.
I don't have a cell phone, so I forgot to unplug my landline this morning.
This is the podcast that does interruptions all the time, so don't worry about it.
Terrific.
So, my guide says that that's the perfect tool to give people to be like, oh, they've been around the whole time.
Have they been around the whole time?
Yes and no.
And I've got some amazing footage for my next movie that shows the research in 1960 where they're literally up there measuring the contrail coming out of the back of jets and they're testing their ability and perfecting their ability to make it so that contrails don't exist.
Like, we've learned how to make it so the contrails don't exist.
And we are outfitting the engines.
This is the 1960s.
They've learned how to make contrails not exist at all.
The engines of the past...
Yes.
were less efficient and they didn't have the high bypass turbofan jet engines.
And were they blasting out more heat?
Yes.
Were the atmospheric conditions on that day super cold and humid and able to leave those lines in the sky?
Possibly.
Is that photo photoshopped?
It feels like yes to me.
So I think that it's a perfect tool to be able to dismantle.
And people latch on to things like that.
It's like, oh, well, that proves this proves that it's like, actually, it's way more complicated than that.
You can't just look at a photo from World War Two, and be like, oh, if that's like that, then here we are, however many years later with all these technological advancements, and you've got I mean, The engines nowadays, I liken them to a propeller, okay?
These propellers spin.
They create lift over a wing.
There's no contrail there in that example.
So, in an instance where the high bypass turbofan jet engine, these big engines, if you look at them, they're spinning.
They're creating like a vortex in front of the wing.
They're creating lift over the wings.
They're very efficient.
There's not all this jet fuel in the wings, like we're told.
These wings are mechanical.
They open up and close.
There's not all that hot air blasting out like it did with those dogfighters, you know?
So, people are making the wrong conclusions anyways, right?
But at the end of the day... Dude, somebody's knocking on my freaking door.
I've got to check this.
I'm so sorry.
Yeah, go.
Can you do that?
It could be the CIA.
Yeah.
Hmm.
I.
Actually, I've got to go and...
No, I haven't got to turn the chicken over either.
Sorry about that.
That's alright.
Um, I see a lot of that sort of stuff, um, photoshopped.
Um, also people like to grasp onto the past and make it seem like that that's the definite for the future.
People are talking about now solar flares and the quarantine event of 1859 or whatever that was.
Um, and then that, that event, I wasn't around.
Okay.
I don't like, like when you start to really become a truther and dig into history, And the stories that are told.
I mean, the propaganda was so deep when Nikola Tesla tried to introduce free energy to the world that Edison's technology was paraded all over the United States and they literally went on stage and killed animals in front of the world.
They electrocuted elephants in front of people and said, this is what Tesla's technology would do.
And they feared them.
Into choosing Edison's technology, right?
Like history, and that's, you'll hardly hear that in the history books, but history has been so perverted and twisted and changed to push the narrative of today, which is like energy's not free and transhumanism and all this stuff.
I mean, I've learned so much about obelisks, free energy, the paramagnetism and the polarity of the earth and the sky and how there's energy everywhere.
And we don't get told the truth about our history.
I don't know about this Carrington event, if it was even real or not, but it'd be the perfect tool to tell everyone, oh, this happened because of X, Y, Z.
Okay, mind you, do we even have electronics back then?
People are like, oh, all the electronics are going to get fried again based on what happened back then.
It's like, how do you know that this will fry electronics if there wasn't even electronics back then?
But this whole story is being pushed about solar flares now.
And when I was in the UK last, there's this Epoch Times, which I believe is like a controlled truther kind of, they want to be more like alternative media.
But the way that the media was pushing that a solar flare is going to come and knock everything out and that we need a solution to this and that we're going to lose our electronics.
Temp trails are the best solution possible for the mainstream to convince the world that we need these things.
Like they knock out electricity, demonize the sun even further, which has been going on for quite some time.
And then say, oh, we've actually got a solution.
We can put aluminum in the sky and dismantle these solar flares.
I don't trust things from the past.
I think that the world fairs are worth questioning.
I mean, there's so many things worth questioning when you go down that truth rabbit hole that make you start to realize that a lot of the past is being fabricated and pitched to us to sell an official story, a narrative that's not even true.
So I'm glad that your discernment's on point with that one.
It even looks kind of fake, that dog fighting photo that you're talking about.
And yeah, if they stick it in a history museum, then all of a sudden it's fact, right?
And people just eat it up, and that's something that people need to grasp, that the lies are so big that most everything mainstream is just to create a... to formulate a consciousness around a certain thing that's not even true.
I think that, really quick, and then I'll pass the mic over to you.
I have a question.
Why, why, why, why, why?
Why the lies are so deep?
I believe that we are spiritual, resonant beings.
We're beings of resonance.
And we're created in God's image, kind of thing.
And as we start to evolve and come into our trueness, we as spiritual beings have a lot of potential spiritual power, even just seen right through lies, through our connection to spirit and whatnot.
And if we are on full resonance of truth, we're very powerful.
We can see right through everything and maybe even manifest or be in line with spirit or access Akashic records or whatever.
But if we're in resonance of lies, then why would our creator have us be able to manifest and create if we're resonating with falsehoods?
That wouldn't be right, right?
So the powers that be get us believing and resonating with lies to strip us of our potential powers, I believe.
Our powers is kind of an out there word.
to potential to strip us of our spirituality.
And then in doing so, we're easily coerced and convinced of other lies because we don't have that filter and that gut discernment that we should have when we're already latching on to all these lies and believe in those as lies, then we don't have that connection to our higher self, if that makes sense.
You mentioned something interesting, and I've heard you say this on other podcasts, that it's almost as though we've reached the new stage in the chemtrails saga, whereby they almost want people to be aware.
So So you'll get, for example, Noughts and crosses, grids, so obvious that they could not possibly be commercial aircraft.
Or you'll get X's in the skies.
It's like they're mocking us, they want us to notice.
And what you suggested before is that They're moving the narrative on.
So, before it was only crazies think that chemtrails exist.
Now they're moving on to, yeah, of course chemtrails exist, but they're a good thing.
We're trying to save the planet from global warming.
And that's very fascinating because you've got these different camps, and you've got AI, and the internet, and everything's listening and listening and gathering information, so it's a big numbers game, right?
So you've got one portion of the population completely convinced of the Greta-Algor story, that we're in dire straits, and that something needs to be done.
Those people don't necessarily know that anything's happening yet, but they will eat it up when it's presented to them that the solution is readily available for them.
It's this classic Hegelian dialectic problem reaction solution.
They're just waiting in fear.
Problem reaction, the reaction is fear.
Solution is going to be whatever they're spoon fed next, which is going to be probably normalization, legitimization of chemtrails.
But possibly through some sort of fear process, like, oh, the solar flares are getting so bad, or, oh, these storms got so bad that Miami got wiped off the map, and now we have to really act.
Or something to the degree of something extreme is happening, so we have no choice kind of thing.
But the different camps are very obvious.
And so the camp of the people waking up and actually coming into reality with it all, they're...
Dismantled through different means.
Yes, you mentioned the trolls and the 77th Brigade.
There are so many people hired to do this.
It's wild.
They're just sit-at-home misinformation campaigners.
They'll create a nice little profile, say that they've worked for the Air Force for 20 years but now they're retired and therefore they know everything.
And they're right there hopping on posts.
And I think they probably have algorithms queuing them up.
Like, oh, hey, Matt's talking about chemtrails again.
You better wake up and talk shit.
There's also bots.
The bots are just wild.
And a lot of people are like, oh, I can identify what a bot is and what isn't.
I believe that probably the bots are very smarter than you think.
And some of them are very clearly bots.
And some of them are not.
Some of them act like they're not bots.
But there are people that are completely...
Okay, so regarding the people that are waking up to chemtrails, back to that story.
What I witnessed in my hometown about a week ago or two weeks ago was Circle 8s.
Like, literally 8s going over.
And people were either completely upset and pointing at the sky and yelling at the normies, which doesn't get us anywhere, right?
Or people were looking at that completely mind-controlled, thinking, there's nothing to see here.
Like, this is just normal.
And so, I believe it's this slow and steady, very slow and steady, I mean, I think that after World War II, that the powers that be decided to take the slow game.
We're going to slowly convince people that NASA is real and slowly put money into the MK Ultra Hollywood programming thing and slowly get them to adopt to the iPad world where it dismantles the family unit and get the device in the child's lap while 5G is introduced and then slowly turn up these frequencies.
I have these A silver line foam bag that just stopped working.
I had to make double and triple layered foam bags for these blackout foam bags because the frequencies got so strong with the 5G rollout.
March 2020, all my products stopped working.
I had to increase the layers of this protective lining because what I believe is there's a slow and steady population fertility attack.
So children conceived, born and raised in a 5G environment by the time they're of age, A lot of them won't be able to conceive.
And then they'll be turning to, you know, what can I do for humanity or whatever?
What am I gonna do about this?
And the solution will be there for them.
Transhumanism.
Transfer your consciousness into a cyborg, half-clone version of yourself and live forever to save humanity, right?
This is a very slow game.
So, to slowly indoctrinate the population, you would spray the horizon and let the mist come in, and then slowly have a few lines in the sky, and then do the checkerboards while people are slowly seeing it, and they're like, wait, was that like that in my childhood?
I think I have a memory of that, because it's slowly happening.
Then do the eights over their head, and you would think, oh no, that's going to wake a lot of people up.
It's a numbers game.
Maybe it woke up a dozen people, but it pushed a million people further down the hole of cognitive dissonance, where anything in their face... It's like what happened during the lockdowns.
Like, I talked to my mom at the beginning.
She's like, no way would I ever get this shot.
But then the propaganda kept going and kept going and kept going to the point That at the very end, the numbers game really got to the people.
And I also think that there was an AI watching over everybody because at the very end of it all, right before it was let up, we were coming together, making little communities, starting schools, deciding how we're going to reject this entire thing.
People of all walks of life were waking up and coming together, and the powers that be saw that and realized, okay, we're gonna give them their freedoms back, make them think it's like back to normal, and then they won't have that drive and passion to be in power, to buck the system anymore when their so-called freedoms are being given back.
So to answer your question, I would basically divide society into like four different groups, and then Like, the smaller percentages are those waking up and the powers that be know how to... Like, it's one thing also to shove it in people's faces and then have the people waking up trying to convince the normies and getting irate about it and stuff like that.
It's kind of like going so down the rabbit hole where you come into normies with Morgellons when really you should not be even mentioning that word until they're at, like, There's like levels of waking up, and I think it's like a progression like school, like kindergarten, first grade, all the way to the doctorate degree.
Morgellons is like a doctorate degree.
And if you go to someone in kindergarten and you're trying to explain to them something that really there's not even a lot of factual basis for.
Like, yes, people are getting sick and having, you know, these, um, these symptoms, but, you know, to say that it's all in the air and that we're all doomed and that nothing can be done and all sorts of things.
And, you know, People are being programmed based on their level of awareness, and I think that that's what's happening in the skies right now, that it's just pulling different people in certain directions.
That is very astute, Matt, what you were saying about that period after After the sort of the covid madness and I really noticed this that we were we were starting to come together on the marches.
We were forming a resistance and there was a really strong sense of community and that has has vanished.
Um, since they started relaxing things.
Our groups have dissipated.
They've gone in different directions.
And partly that's been caused by infiltration, controlled opposition groups and so on.
That's a given.
But I think your point is well made, that by taking off the pressure slightly, that they made the stakes lower, so that it was easier for people to slip back into kind of normy land.
Exactly, and it seems like a lot of it was data collection, analyzing how we'd react to certain things, and I mean, I'm very thankful that I was able to have FrankenSkies available for people that were locked in their homes for two years.
A lot of people started questioning things and waking up and there's a mass awakening of consciousness that began during the lockdowns.
And I think it's just this, this duality of as the light and darkness have this like back and forth, the darkness is going to have to show itself.
And in doing so, the light, the people of the world that are the light, they're going to see the darkness and realize that they are the light and it's going to wake them up just through its existence.
So it's like a process, no matter what they can, no matter what they try, they're still going to be putting their own foot in their mouth and waking people up.
I had another notion that I wanted to mention about the whistleblowers.
So if you ran a company and you had some evil doings going on, you would literally figure out who the best people in your company would be to be the whistleblowers.
And you'd be like, look, this information's gonna come out eventually.
We need to control it.
We need to control the opposition.
So we're gonna pick the right person to come out.
We'll pretend like this person's getting in trouble.
No one else will come out and blow the whistle now because this person's come out.
That person's actually gonna get a big fat bonus.
You know, maybe the headline will say that they went to jail for a year, but they won't.
And if they do, we'll get them right out and give them an even bigger bonus.
But the action of controlling the opposition, it's very smart and strategic.
In the United States, the Black Panthers, who was a revolutionary group during the Civil Rights Movement, they were feared by the government.
And at that point, they hadn't really perfected their means of infiltration and control opposition.
But during the Black Panthers, who were very organized and revolutionary, and they had a whole community, a whole race of people.
I mean, like, the African American community were all on board and wanted their rights and everything was coming together.
And they had music on their side and culture and all this stuff.
They were feared.
And so they were infiltrated and dismantled from within.
And since then, every single group that tries to come together is infiltrated from within and dismantled to the best of their ability and it's very calculated and strategic and smart and people need to wrap their head around that.
If you're going to spray the world with a million dollars worth of aerosols each day and you're going to do this entire program and keep it all in the dark, you're going to cover your bases and it's very smart But also, like, people can't grasp how detailed and layered it would be, but just, you have to take a step back and look at how they were able to pull the wool over everyone's eyes.
It's by planning this out strategically.
There's a document, the T-A-P-D-O-E, Tropospheric Atmospheric, Tropospheric, T-A-P is the Tropospheric Atmospheric Program, through the Department of Energy, and the TAP Program, okay?
And it came out, like I said, in 2001 right before 9-11.
It's a very thick document.
It's about 100 pages.
And in the document, it talks about the ground-based stations and the spraying different chemicals and how they're going to do their research on this tropospheric aerosol spraying campaign.
And it's through the Department of Energy, which is like dirty oil and dirty coal.
They wanted to already have their chemtrail program in place because they knew that eventually dirty energy was going to be demonized and that there's going to have to be a solution for that because it was going to be to blame for global warming.
So they were going to be the ones behind it in the end, you know, controlling that.
But in that document, there's this pie chart in the back and it says risk assessment and exposure deterrent.
Like they don't want to be exposed and they want to make sure they cover all their bases.
And in their first year of rolling out this program, they allocated like six million dollars to just that.
So you've got millions of dollars going into these programs to assess their risks, analyze them, make sure they're not uncovered in the way that they want, and to be uncovered in the way that they choose, which is coming out at a certain time and saying, oh, we've got stratospheric aerosol injections.
like before they came out and started talking about geoengineering as a common name, which was when I first got into the chemtrails space, it was two words, chemtrails and geoengineering.
Chemtrails was the dirty word and geoengineering was the fancy word that people should use because it's not been demonized to such a degree.
Then right before I came out with Franken Skies, which it was actually a godsend.
I was really trying to come up with a movie in 2016.
All these things were getting in my way.
And then all of a sudden geoengineering was launched through the media as this solution.
Right before that mainstream narrative came out, there was a full on demonization campaign on chemtrails.
And then three weeks later, the word geoengineering was released.
Every major media publication on earth, every single one came out and said, sorry, folks, chemtrails is not real.
Chemtrails are not real.
This is a crazy conspiracy theory showing photos of chemtrails.
Those exact photos were used three weeks later by the same exact publications saying, we've got a solution to global warming.
Might mess with astronomy.
You might not be able to see the stars as well.
Some people might get sick and die a little bit because of this and that, but don't worry.
The sun is evil and we need to do this anyways.
And it's the best thing that we have and you're welcome.
And it's going to happen soon.
Identical imagery, conditioning people to seeing their skies differently, but also they react to this notion of geoengineering chemtrails a certain way now that the media got to them first.
Right?
So it's very, It's very diabolical and strategic the way that they program people to perceive information.
And when something gets to you first, it's so much more powerful.
Just imagine you're on the schoolyard playground and someone comes and whispers in your ear, Sally has a crush on you.
Right?
It doesn't matter if it's true or not.
Someone's gotten to you first and planted that seed.
Now you're going to look at Sally a certain way.
Right?
Someone can come up to you next week and be like, actually, that's not true.
Sally doesn't really have a crush on you.
You've already had someone come to you first planting that notion, right?
It's just like that with anything.
These cognitive pathways get dug and people start to look at things a certain way because it got to them first and they start to relay things.
One plus one equals two.
You know, um, whether it be, um, a non ionizing EMF radiation is actually harmless and your 5g phone is fine or fluoride is good for your teeth or whatever.
Whether, The truth has gotten to you first, or the powers that be has gotten to you first, is very poignant and important in the brainwashing conditioning process.
Because if someone gets to you first and says that those conspiracy nutters think that chemtrails are real, and then you come along the next week and say, hey, I got this thing, chemtrails, whatever, they already have their cognitive dissonance, they've already got that mental block, they've already got that notion that now you're up against the mainstream and it's a lot more difficult.
So it's a timing thing and it's important how things are first absorbed.
No, I get that.
I'm interested in your protective clothing line and stuff because I'm not really up to speed on just how damaging EMF is and stuff.
But I do know... So, I was in Hong Kong about 18 months ago.
And I felt really uncomfortable in quite a few places.
I remember there was one place where there was a coffee.
I went for a coffee and I had a cigarette outside because you can't smoke indoors in Hong Kong or anywhere else in the world now, apart from maybe Eastern Europe.
And I stood outside this coffee place.
And I felt like absolute shit.
I felt like I was really, really, really under assault.
Just like, just sick!
And I... I do get these moments of sensitivity sometimes.
And I'm wondering if I had one of your hoodies, say.
Would I not get this horrible effect?
I mean, do they work?
Yes, I have testimonials.
People contact me very often.
I just had one two days ago where someone told me that the coffee shop they go to makes them irritable and anxious and that they wore my hoodie to it and that it works.
It relieves that sensitivity.
Why coffee shops?
Oh, there's a lot of Wi-Fi.
There's a lot of Wi-Fi and there's a lot of people on the devices.
Um, so 5g, the way that it works is nothing like 4g.
So 4g, you get out your phone, you got your phone and you send a message and that signal goes out into the world and connects to the cell tower.
That's how 4g worked.
5g, you get on your phone, you send out a text message.
It goes to the next closest cell phone and then it relays it and shoots the next closest cell phone.
Then it relays it until it gets to a small cell tower or a large cell tower or whatever.
So, all of the phones are designed with the 5G infrastructure to create a network together.
And then they'll do this beam form technology where they create a network and make the signal stronger to send it to the To the device.
So when you're in a place where everyone's on the internet connecting to the Wi-Fi together, there's like a big network there and the EMF levels are really high.
If you get yourself an EMF meter, take it in, you can see how high it is.
And likely there was like a Wi-Fi router right over your head or really nearby and there's so much going on that you were feeling it.
A lot of people are starting to become more sensitive, whereas they weren't before.
My story is that I lived right next to a smart meter.
And I didn't know.
I was working on my movie Franken Skies, actually.
And it was like four feet from my desk and like four feet from my bedroom.
I mean, my bed.
And so after about four months, I was laying in bed.
And I could feel it and hear it.
And it was this all night long.
And I told a friend, I think I'm being electro harassed or something.
I think I'm under attack.
And I told my landlord.
And she jokingly was like, maybe it's that new smart meter on the other side of the wall.
Like she didn't think that.
And I didn't think.
But then I did the research, went down that rabbit hole, created the clothing line.
And I get heart palpitations when I'm around a lot of EMF.
I also get like edgy and anxious feeling.
I also sometimes feel like that there's like a weight on my chest when I'm around a lot of it.
To break it down.
This is really important.
There's carrier waves.
So there's frequency that carries the data that we have Wi-Fi and all that sort of stuff on.
So if we back up to like AM radio waves, those waves carry data.
And this is the way that they've created carrier waves to carry information.
It's light waves.
It's light that's been designed to carry information.
It's just light that's beyond our visual perspective, but it's still light and light that we cannot see.
So light has properties.
It travels at 186,000 miles per second.
It's certain, like if you've got red light versus blue light, it's measured in nanometers.
And a red light wave that we see the color red, it's a larger carrier wave, like if you measure the height of the wave.
It's larger carrier wave than the blue light.
The blue light is a smaller carrier wave.
And the larger carrier wave of red is actually beneficial.
It's called red light therapy.
And blue light is smaller and more impactful because it absorbs into our skin.
And ultraviolet light is right next to blue on the ROYGBIV color spectrum.
And our bodies are designed to absorb ultraviolet light, get our circadian rhythm, get vitamin D, and absorb light from the sun and all that sort of stuff.
So carrier waves that are really, really small and close to that of ultraviolet light are more absorptive in our bodies.
So AM carrier waves were actually 100 feet tall, and those can go very, very far, go through buildings, go through people, and they're not absorptive and impactful because of their height, because of the size of the carrier wave.
radio carrier waves are 10 feet tall.
And as long as you're not right next to that FM antenna, that carrier wave is gonna go right through you.
We're not 10 feet tall.
Our organs, our sperm are not 10 feet tall.
Our fetuses and reproductive, the eggs are developing ovaries and all that stuff, they're not 10 feet tall.
So these things are gonna go right through us.
4G, 3G technology is also large.
4G is measured in centimeters.
Wi-Fi, also measured in centimeters.
Wi-Fi modulates, so it's a little more toxic because of the way that it modulates.
But we're still dealing with something that's measured in centimeters.
You can go through bricks.
It's like 20 centimeters to 10 centimeters if you're going to wrap your head around the size of it all.
So these things are designed to carry information and designed to go through things, right?
The 5G technology was weaponized technology created during the Gulf War when we all started fighting over there for whatever reason to defend Kuwait or whatever we're told we're doing.
And what was created was an active denial system, ADS.
You can look this up on Wikipedia, what have you.
And the active denial system was a frequency fence, an invisible frequency fence, that tuned this millimeter-sized carrier wave to make a fence.
So a millimeter is the width of a penny, very small.
And at that size, you can tune it to the exact size that when it hits your skin, it hits your nerves and makes your skin burn and it hurts.
So this, and what's ironic is Hertz, H-E-R-T-Z, Heinrich Hertz, who studied all this and came up with the idea of Hertz is how many waves per second.
He studied so much of this radiation that he died in his mid-30s.
But Hertz does hurt, which is ironic.
And the active denial system, that millimeter carrier wave, it was owned by the military and weaponized.
And then when 5G came out, they used that millimeter sized carrier wave to carry information on, tuned it to the point where it's not just hitting your skin and burning you.
So then, you know, people wouldn't want that in their, in their pocket, right?
But these carrier waves are very small and 5G is a blanket term.
You've got high band, mid band, low band.
There's different, um, telecom providers that are doing it a little differently.
So if you want to measure the exact size of the carrier waves, it really depends on Which telecom provider you're dealing with.
Over here in the United States, Verizon has the iBand, which is the very smallest, and Verizon has the iPhones, pretty much monopoly.
And so the iPhones are all working together to create these signals.
And what it is, is you've got a carrier wave that's about a millimeter in size.
And so trees have to be cut down to be able to propagate the wave because it would hit the trees and absorb into it.
Okay?
This is weaponized technology that doesn't seem like it should be used for the carrying of information because it's not effective if it's absorbing into everything it hits, including people and buildings and all this sort of stuff.
I've done videos on these new cell towers with my EMF meter.
And if I just go around the corner of a brick building, there's no EMF radiation.
But if I get in line with the cell tower, it's through the roof.
Okay.
So this technology, what it does with this millimeter-sized carrier wave is it can't go very far.
The telecom providers are saying it goes 500 to 1,000 feet.
And so what it needs is an infrastructure of all these other nodes that are going to repeat the signals.
So you have these small cells that are put on light posts and put throughout the community, but also the 5G cell towers act as small nodes in that they repeat the signal of everyone's radiation all around you, everyone's signal all around you, and that's why it's so much more than the 4G.
So the new technology, as they introduce it, is much more absorptive.
So the 4G will be going right through you.
The 5G, it absorbs right into your body, and I think it's going to really impact fertility and whatnot, because when you're developing eggs in your body, and you're developing fetus in your womb and all that stuff, and you're a millimeter in size, these millimeter-sized waves that are very absorptive are going to really impact your development and your reproductive organs that are that small size.
So size really matters when it comes to the carrier waves, of this technology.
And now that it's been shrunk down to such a small carrier wave and absorbs into everything, including people, I firmly believe that during the lockdowns, a lot of people, especially with the hair loss and whatnot, these are all radiation sickness symptoms.
And what I witnessed when my phone bag stopped working and people were getting sick at the exact same time, and I had to double and triple layer up my phone bags because they were penetrating these blackout phone bags, which now work perfectly, is that people were experiencing the phone bags not working, getting sick at the exact same time, is that people were experiencing the phone bags not working, getting sick at the exact same But if the mainstream media wasn't there telling them it was something else, they likely would have come to the correct conclusion.
But instead, they're being spoon fed this dystopia, you know.
Narrative that the plandemic was all from what someone ate a bat or something.
I don't even know.
Yeah, they did.
It was a pangolin.
It was a pangolin from the wet markets as I recall and then it and then it became a evil Dr. Fauci's friend Peter Daszak was producing these bioengineered viruses and they were then exported.
Yeah, blah blah blah.
Anyway, I was going to change the battery on this.
So I hope I did a good job explaining that.
It's a little complex, and being an activist, you have to wear many hats, right?
I've become, like, slightly an electrical engineer, I've become slightly a meteorologist, and a historian, paleontologist, and all these other things as I start to dig into all these lies and have to dismantle them and find the truth.
A lot of people, when you get into activism, they say, stick in your line and don't do other things.
Truth is all-embracing.
You have to be able to grasp all of it to see the bigger picture.
So I think that it's important for everyone to, you know, get their feet wet, dabble in different topics to see the bigger picture, especially with health and, you know, growing food and understanding the food system and whatnot.
I was going to ask you to sort of condense down your expertise in this particular, because look, I mean, I don't understand everything, particularly stuff to do with technology.
So, okay.
I know I'm sensitive to certain things.
I mean, I just gave you the example of my experiences in Hong Kong.
I can definitely feel bad shit coming from the ether.
I know that wind turbine noise, for example, is just totally disruptive and evil.
You know, low frequency noise, it completely messes you up.
And I've noticed that they're ramping that up recently with the weather manipulation, the wind and stuff.
It's just the winds have been off the scale this year and that's not natural.
Um, but EMF, I'm sort of, so I've got Wi-Fi at home.
I don't put my phone in a, what are those bags called?
I don't put my phone in a Faraday bag.
I mean, I've started to hate my mobile phone.
But I still use it.
I still sort of carry it around in my back pocket.
So presumably it's poisoning my butt cheek and entering my genitalia and you know, but so.
What should I be doing?
You know, I mean, without taking it to extremes, what should we be doing to avoid this bad shit?
There's a thing called a SARS rating, S A R S.
And so you can actually look up your SARS rating on your phone and that tells you how much radiation it gives off.
There's some phones, and this is a big leap to tell people, get a different phone.
So I'm just going to say this and then we'll back up.
There's a SARS rating on your phone and some phones emit exponentially less radiation.
Well, can I look now?
Yeah.
It's not on your phone.
You have to look it up.
S-A-R-S rating.
Capital S-A-R.
And then S, that's a lowercase, but each phone has a SARS rating.
What, you mean different models of iPhone have different?
Yep, every single model phone has its own SARS rating and there's a Samsung phone that's designed to have a very, very low, let's say 0.1.
I did a blog about it on my Sparrow Gear website, which is something.
But yeah, each phone has a SARS rating, so you can figure out, oh, my phone has a really high SARS rating, maybe I don't want that.
But also, the first thing and the most important thing that you can do is get a good night's sleep.
And that means put your phone on airplane mode.
And some phones want to automatically turn on the Bluetooth, so maybe you have to go in and turn the Bluetooth off.
Put your phone on airplane mode, which means it's not connecting.
I turn it off.
Yeah, that's great.
Turn your phone and you do that, so that's great.
But to your audience, make your sleep environment non-toxic.
Some of you have a little alarm clock right there that has the weather on it.
It's connecting to Wi-Fi, right?
Some of you have your Xbox plugged in, or whatever it may be, your smart TV plugged in.
If you get yourself an EMF meter, you'll start to see, oh my gosh, my smart meter's plugged in.
It's not on, but it's plugged in.
It's emitting all this radiation that's impacting my sleep.
So, EMF radiation is light.
It's just light we cannot see.
If you could see it properly, your phone would be like a ball of light.
then it's like 15 feet kind of thing.
That light, your body does not know any different.
It's none the wiser.
It thinks you're out in the bright sun. - Oh, does it? - So it tells your body that you're in high noon sunlight and then your whole circadian clock gets tuned to that.
Like you're setting the clock, you're calibrating it or whatever.
Your body thinks it's noon.
And so say you get on your device, Blue light's similar to sunlight, so your devices emit the blue light.
Blue light and EMF radiation are almost identical as far as how your body absorbs it and thinks that it's sunlight.
So say it's 11pm, and you're like, I'm just gonna hop on my phone for a little bit and scroll through Facebook, that EMF radiation and that blue light is telling your body it's noon.
And then your calibration is set to noon, and then you go to sleep, and then six hours later, it's only 6 p.m., according to your body.
But your body wants to actually think that it's 5 a.m., because you went to bed at 11 p.m., right?
And then at 5 a.m., your body actually creates dopamine precursors, melatonin, serotonin, all these certain chemicals that keep your body on track.
Your entire endocrine system, which is your hormones, It's designed all throughout your skin.
So, it's dictated by your circadian clock and dictated by the sun.
People absorb a lot of sunlight, they get happy because the hormones are impacted and your vitamin levels are increased and all that sort of stuff.
So, it's really important to get a good night's sleep, not be on your device right before bed because then you can get that circadian clock in line and get those things that are supposed to happen in the middle of the night, like cortisol levels, all these sort of things.
Like your body is a very delicate machine and at 1am, 2am, 1pm, 2pm, every single hour of the day, every minute of the day really, it needs to be adjusted and know what time of day it is and certain things are built and designed to be released and processing different minerals and certain things.
It happens at certain increments of the day and your body's clock has to know what time of day it is.
Right okay so sleep hygiene as it's called.
Do I need to get a Faraday bag to carry around my phone in?
Well it's a great option.
I don't have a cell phone because I've just gone down that path to the point where I first got a pager.
I got laughed out of everywhere that I told page me so I just got rid of pages.
I have a landline.
I have an ethernet cord that connects.
I'm EMF free unless I'm like out at a coffee shop or something like that.
But generally speaking, I have a landline, I have an Ethernet cable, and I've gone that route because I do feel fatigued from high levels of EMF and I think it's very important to walk the walk and talk the talk and all that sort of stuff.
If you have a Faraday bag, you put your phone in, you're not going to get any service.
Some people always want to have service just in case their grandmother falls off of whatever.
Great!
I think it's important to put your phone in a Faraday bag and to not always have that going on.
Because the 5G infrastructure, like I said, even if you're not using your phone, it's using your phone as a relay point for all the other phones.
So say you're on a block with no phones, but you're near a cell tower, and then a block away there's 100 phones, all those phones are going to send it to you and then send it on to the cell tower because you're in between it and the cell tower.
So the amount of radiation, and it's a new form of radiation too.
The carrier wave is a totally different form.
So to say, oh, it's 100 times more radiation than 4G, That's kind of accurate, but also it's a completely new form of radiation that we've never been exposed to.
And it's incrementally being increased as they play this frog and hot water boiling thing where they don't want everyone to notice that they're getting sick from their phones.
So there's always updates and incremental changes.
I think the best way to go about it, you get an EMF meter.
I mean, you can get a Wi-Fi meter, a timer for your Wi-Fi router.
So you can actually plug it in.
If you can't get Ethernet and you want to have the accessibility to have wireless in your house, you can have it that your Wi-Fi router is automatically turned off at midnight or whatever, or turned back on at 6 a.m.
They have timers for that.
So that's really helpful as well.
Yeah, that's really sweet.
But also, if your Wi-Fi router is in the other room and it's not near your bedroom and you don't have any devices connecting to it and bringing that field of radiation into your bedroom, it's actually not...
Not as impactful as you think.
A lot of people look on their phone and are like, I can get all these Wi-Fi signals.
I'm getting blasted by all these people.
It's not really the case.
The Wi-Fi signal dissipates.
It's called the inverse square law.
It's applied to sound and light.
And I think of the Wi-Fi meter as a crying baby.
It can only cry so loud.
And if you go across the street and you connect your device to that crying baby, it amplifies the signal and then you're picking it up on your phone.
But if you're not picking it up on a device, that signal is weakened because distance is your friend.
It's the inverse square law because it's an inverse exponential relationship where it's inversely exponential, so it falls off exponentially as you get away from it.
So the further you get away from the light source or the sound source or the radiation source, distance is your friend and it exponentially falls off as you get further away from it.
So I think that getting a cheap little EMF meter, or a nicer one, ideally you get one that's XYZ coordinates because it measures the field and not just a linear one.
The cheap ones just do a little linear one.
You can't get a great reading.
But investing in an EMF meter, knowing what your environment is like, and then mitigating it through unplugging certain things, putting them in the other room, getting a little timer.
A Faraday bag is definitely your best friend if you can adopt that.
A lot of people Love it.
Your alarm will still work inside the bag.
And I think it's a great means of just protecting you.
And also, if you have the wireless... I'm glad you don't.
I see you don't have wireless headphones.
But when I was in London, it seemed like everyone had those wireless earbuds.
Yeah.
Those things communicate with each other through your brain.
They don't just connect with the device.
Blimey!
Do you know what?
I play this... Get this.
I play this healing music frequencies but unfortunately because my computer wasn't the thing wasn't working I ended up doing it with those with those the wireless things and I was thinking all the good that I was doing with the healing frequencies were being undone by the anyway Matt, I could talk to you for hours about this stuff, but I've actually got to go now, and you've probably got things to do.
It's been really great talking to you.
Tell us where we can find your stuff.
I would love to.
Can I really quick just say some empowering stuff about health?
So it's important for people to learn about, like, so yeah, they're spraying the skies.
Okay, firstly, why?
Why are they spraying the skies and trying to get us to take these jabs, messing with our food, messing with our light bulbs, messing with our water, you name it.
All these sort of things.
It's important for everyone to take a step back and realize we are under attack, yes, but it's because we are feared.
They fear the day we come to the realization of how powerful we really are, and the truth will bond us and all these sort of things, but we're very powerful spiritual beings, and they're terrified of us, of our potential, of our spiritual consciousness rising, all that sort of stuff.
So, at the end of the day, these daunting, terrifying, Disempowering things, they actually really empower us and make us look in the mirror and be like, wow, they fear the God presence within me, the Christ consciousness that's evolving within my soul and my heart and all that sort of stuff.
It's very important.
It's important to chelate and to learn about using your skin and detox through sweating and saunas and that sort of thing and find like silica.
I take horsetail supplements.
Horsetail is a plant that is made out of silica and silica will bond to aluminum, pull out of your body.
There's different means of chelation.
You can even consult a naturopath, get your blood sampled and get the aluminum out of your body, all that sort of things.
Also, I take supplements, plant-based bioavailable minerals.
I think it's important to take bioavailable minerals.
Some minerals are just rocks and we can't really ingest them very well.
So I take this blend of bladderwrack, burdock, and sea moss.
Sea moss is a seaweed.
It's got like 108 minerals.
All these minerals that the soil don't have anymore.
Einsteinium, gold, all these amazing things.
And then the burdock and the bladderwrack is a seaweed and a root and it's very common practice if you look it up online that these ground-up pills will have these three things in them.
Those three plants have 118 minerals in them and the human body needs 118 minerals each day to be up to speed and to be like as good as we can be.
If we're walking around mineral deficient, right, and we're like deficient in our minerals because we're not taking care of our body our bodies want to get up to speed on our minerals so we'll start absorbing toxins from our toxic environment so they spray radioactive cadmium in this the air and maybe that's right next to calcium on the periodic table and now we're not up to speed on our calcium because we're mineral deficient we'll start absorbing our toxins from our water our food our air so we're all of a sudden implanting radioactive cadmium in our bones
whereas if we were just being healthy and honoring our health the emf will strip the body of zinc so again we need we need readily available bioavailable minerals so when we have the sea moss and whatnot in our bodies and we're up to speed our minerals we're not going to be absorbing the toxins as much as everyone else around us so i think it's very important to take the health into your own hands try juicing wheatgrass there's all these sort of things read your labels if you can't read it don't eat it There's all sorts of things like that.
So thanks for letting me get that out.
I think it's important to end it on a positive note.
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ActualActivists.com.
That's my baby.
I wanted to make a one-stop shop for truth.
I've got a daily blog on there called Daily Truths.
And on there, we talk about everything.
Anybody can learn something from there.
It's categorized fluoride, GMOs, geoengineering, vaccines, because those are the main truth topics in health.
But I guarantee you, if you want to dig around on there, you'll find something.
It's a really amazing resource.
And also, my EMF protection clothing line, Sparrow, which is a Latin word for hope, because the goal is to bring hope to the next generation through truth and empowerment and protection.
And so the website is Sparrow, S-P-E-R-R-O, gear.
Sparrow gear is the Instagram handle.
Sparrowgear.com is the website.
There's a coupon code for everyone, actual activist, so that you can get a little discount if you're across the pond or whatever.
And thank you so much for having me on.
And I encourage everyone to use their voice because we're all playing a part in this.
And your voice is powerful and you do matter.
And we can all be activists in this weird world that we live in.
Well, thank you, Matt, so much.
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