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Barbara O'Neill

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Welcome to The Deling Pod with me, James Delingpole, and I know I always say I'm excited about this week's special guest, but this time I'm not excited because it's just me talking about how excited I am.
about this coming event June the 28th with Mike Yeadon.
It's my biggest live event yet and I'm pleased to say that ticket sales are going so well that I'm not even really trying to plug the event to sell more tickets.
There are some available but my assistant Ben tells me yeah we're covered.
So mainly I'm saying this for the benefit of those of you who are coming.
How much I'm looking forward to meeting some of you.
I don't know whether I'll be able to meet all of you.
And how I envy you the thrill of coming to see one of the greatest men of our recent times.
Mike Yeadon, I know, is the reason that quite a few of you didn't take the jab.
Which in itself, you know, the guy is a lifesaver.
Mike has also gone down the rabbit hole as rapidly as I have.
You remember a few years ago he was a big pharma executive and now he is their arch enemy.
We're going to talk about that.
We're going to talk about his journey to Christianity.
We're going to talk about what he really thinks now about the vaccines and what their purpose is and so on and so on.
It's going to be a great event.
There's an after show party which I don't know, it's going to be rammed isn't it?
You can still get tickets if you want to come, if you're not coming already, from Eventbrite.
I'll put the details below this.
And it's going to be in Tufnel Park-ish, so to give you an idea of where it's going to be in London.
I'm really looking forward to seeing you there.
If you want to buy tickets, yeah you can, but if not, I don't mind.
It's going to be a great crowd already.
See you there, or not.
Welcome to the DellingPod with me, James DellingPod.
I know I always say I'm excited about this week's special guest, but before we meet her, a quick word from one of our sponsors.
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To the Delling Pod, Barbara O'Neill.
I've been trying to get you for ages.
You are very, very in demand.
It appears so!
But you've been doing a tour, or a couple of nights anyway, talking to huge audiences.
I mean, 1,200 people came to your show, one of your shows you say.
Yes, that was the night before last.
That was quite phenomenal.
It's a lot of people.
Well, I first encountered you, and I think this probably applies to a lot of people, through that amazing talk you did about the power of water and salt, of sea salt.
Is that one of your most popular hits?
It appears so.
And I think that's why Celtic Salt has sold out worldwide.
And I think that's why the Baja Salt people met with me and say, you've changed our lives, our business has boomed.
I'm so happy to hear that.
Really?
Well, I don't know.
Tell me about Baja Salt.
Well, it was when I was in America last year, my daughter arranged for me to have lunch with these people from Baja Salt.
And They're a couple in their, I don't know, mid-60s and their two sons were there and they were very well-built young men and they were about 40 and they just couldn't stop smiling.
They said that They said, since this explosion, from that lecture, I think, the salt and the water, because people couldn't get Celtic salt, they found the Baja salt, B-A-J-A.
And so their business boomed, and so these two sons, who'd been in IT, they resigned and they're full-time in the business now.
And the Baja salt is a hand-harvested salt, very similar in the old methods, on the coast of Mexico.
As the Celtic salt is a hand harvested on the salt of France.
Well you've changed my habits because whenever I'm traveling I have this little pot with grey salt in it which I take little tastes of every now and again.
So before we go on to anything else, since we've mentioned the salt and water thing, just tell us briefly what it's all about.
Well, as briefly as I can, the body is a salty, you know, organism.
And Dr. Jacques Delangre, a French doctor who wrote a book called Sea Salt's Hidden Power, he calls the inside fluids our internal ocean.
And I present that because common sense tells us, you know, every time we We urinate, you know, perspire, bowel movements.
We are losing some of those minerals.
So we need to replace the minerals.
And the salt in the supermarket shelf has two minerals compared to seawater, which has 92.
So it's a big, big difference there.
And the doctor is right that refined salt will cause pressure in the cell, outside the cell, upping the blood pressure.
But the whole salt, as we call it, the Baja salt or the Celtic salt, they have approximately 82, 83 minerals.
So when that's taken, it restores the balance in and out of the cell.
But the habit of taking a little bit of salt before the glass of water, the three magnesiums in the salt pull that water inside the cell because magnesium is a water-hungry molecule.
And I think it was just a little thing that anyone could do.
And you give children a little bit of salt, which they love.
The next thing they want to do is drink water.
So I guess it makes water drinking, which everyone knows they should and not everyone's good at it.
It makes water drinking, I think, a little easier.
But of course, it's I mean, marine salt, grey salt or Baja salt or whatever, OK, it's slightly more expensive, but it's still a lot cheaper than most supplements.
Do you take any supplements at all?
No.
Where are you?
Where are you on Sapna?
Because I remember, we'll talk about dandelions in a minute, but you seem to be, you seem to be dependent or not, that's completely the wrong word.
You seem to favour all natural things that you can sort of grow or find in the wild or whatever.
Well, I do, and my son-in-law, he's from Tasmania, has a friend who works in sewerage.
He said, you would not believe the tablets that come through in the sewerage.
This is medical alternate.
And the fact is that a hydrochloric acid is required to break down a tablet.
And hydrochloric acid is basically in the background between meals.
It's only released when we smell, see, eat food.
And we need that hydrochloric acid to break down that outer hard coating on the tablets.
And that experience of this young man saying, all the tablets in the sewage, that tells me that some people are spending a fortune on these supplements and not accessing them.
Well, that's one point.
The other point is that I believe that everything in food is what we need.
But I do acknowledge that today, food is deficient in minerals.
It's because of agriculture, because of the way it's grown.
And I do acknowledge that some people with some conditions in some places, the supplements can certainly turn their health condition around.
Yeah, yeah.
So I met you briefly because you're so in demand at a restaurant full of kind of tinfoil hat lunatic dietary people and crazy Christians and things like that.
And you let slip that you are considered by members of your family like a crazy, like you've completely lost the plot.
So I was wondering about your journey.
Were you ever a kind of a normal person who suddenly got mugged by this new reality?
Absolutely, absolutely.
And by the way, James, I still am.
Yeah, yeah, of course.
But I know what you mean.
I grew up, you know, in Australia as a fifth generation Australian Scottish descent in the average Australian home.
And as Scottish descent, we had sausages or chops, mashed potato, frozen peas or beans every night of the week.
So what turned me around was in my teens.
You know, when you're teens, you're going to change the world.
I was going to change the world.
And I met a friend who was a vegetarian.
I've never heard of such a thing.
I've never heard of brown bread, never heard of lentils.
And so it was just totally new for me.
And I ran with it.
And it was probably not until my mid early 20s when I started having children.
They got sick, I went to the doctor, as we do, as we're taught to do, and I was getting into this alternate lifestyle and I wasn't really happy with the drugs and over six weeks my daughter had four courses of antibiotics and she's only 16 months old and I felt the frustration of not wanting to do that, but not knowing what to do.
And so I began a journey.
I started to talk to old people.
So, I'm 25, they're 85.
See, they're long gone.
What did your mother do when you had an earache?
Steam up and hang it on the stove.
Well, it was my first positive that I tried.
And instead of four courses of antibiotics and over six weeks of this drug that is totally devastating my poor little girl's gut, My next child, I just put an onion on the ear.
He slept for two hours.
I don't think he's ever had another earache again.
You see, that changed my life.
I became like a woman possessed.
There must be more.
There must be other ways that you can help the body to heal without taking drugs.
And my new book that's just been released, Sustained Me, I've put all the remedies that I've gathered over many years into that book because I want a handbook for the mother whose child has an earache and she didn't know what to do.
Well, here it is.
You feel totally free to plug your book as much as you like, because I'll tell you what, I so want to get that book.
I really do, actually.
I love all these folk remedies that come from times before Big Pharma took over everything.
Well, my reasoning is if you try this simple remedy and it doesn't work, you've lost nothing.
But if you try the drug and it didn't work, well, unfortunately, it's also caused this and this and this and slaughtered your gut flora.
So that's what I like about it.
I mean, I'm considered in Australia a threat to public safety.
I can tell you who I think is a threat to public safety, and that is these chemicals that are pushed on people.
That's the real threat.
Every which way, including from the skies.
That's right.
And that's what I also maintain, that it's our God-given right that we choose.
No, thank you.
It's my God-given right, too, as a parent.
I choose not to do the antibiotic for my child's earache.
I choose an onion pod.
It's our right.
And that, of course, is another big concern, is such things are being taken away from us.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Even our ability to grow our own food or raise our own chickens.
That's right, and even to get a seed that has not been genetically modified or hybridized, but in Australia there are about five, maybe six companies that all sell the native seeds, like the seeds that have not been tampered with.
Yeah, yeah.
It's very, very depressing.
No, go away dog.
Go away.
There's a dog trying to get in.
He shouldn't be upstairs.
Well, I have to tell you when Doc Malach interviewed me the other day, he said, excuse me, I have to go because the chook just laid an egg on the path and I'm scared that the other chooks will peck.
So we had to have a little break in his.
Tell me about your notorious status.
I mean, you're basically an outlaw, aren't you?
You are Ned Kelly now in Australia.
Oh yeah.
I want to warn you, James, apparently I'm very dangerous.
You look it.
I'll give a brief background.
It was in about 2016.
My husband was horrified with the government breaking our constitution and making laws that parents couldn't put their children into childcare unless they were vaccinated.
Marcus said, this is against the constitution.
Someone's got to do something.
So he started a political party.
Not knowing, of course, that COVID was around the corner and his political party mushroomed.
His party now is called HAARP, that's Health, Environment, Accountability, Rights and Transparency.
So I need to give you that background because we believe that they took me down to get at him.
In fact, when I went through the inquisition, I mean tribunal, where they questioned me for two hours, four different people, And our lawyer at the end of it, she said, I can't believe it, they've got nothing on you.
You see, this is because I never claim to heal anyone.
I never say, this will kill cancer, this will kill that, because I never say it because I don't believe it.
It's the body and the body alone that heals.
So they were very disappointed that they couldn't get me saying that anyway.
So the lawyer said, they've got nothing on you.
And Marcus said, does that mean Barbara will get off?
She said, no, she'll get a life ban, but she won't go to jail and be fined.
What are the terms of your life ban?
What does it stop you doing?
I am forbidden to give any health advice, paid or unpaid.
I'm forbidden to speak on health.
And so in 2020, that happened in late 2019.
2020 with the lockdown, I did Zooms to Africa, India, America, UK.
And early 2021, the Healthcare Complaints Commission contacted me and they said, we noticed you're doing Zooms.
Now, I'm up in a rain forest.
Zooming to people on the other side of the world.
So obviously they're monitoring me.
They said we notice you're doing zooms.
This is a violation of your prohibition order.
Final warning or three years in prison.
But for saying things like you should drink, you should take some Celtic salt, a pinch of Celtic salt with your water.
That's right, that's right.
So when people say to my husband, what's Barbara done?
He said, oh, just getting people to go to bed earlier, drink more water, exercise every day.
Real dangerous.
Are you in violation of this thing now, or does it not count if you're not in Australia?
No, no, it doesn't count if I'm in Australia.
And that's why I did Zooms all over the world in 2020, because I thought, well, I'm not talking to anyone in Australia.
But apparently if I'm in Australia, even if I'm not talking to people in Australia, if I'm in Australia and giving health advice or health talks to other countries, that's a violation apparently of the Prohibition Order.
Now it is so ludicrous that we've had many friends, concerned friends, say take them to court.
But do you know how much it would cost to start?
$500,000.
And six months later, another half a million.
We haven't got that sort of money to throw away, so I just go elsewhere.
And also, I think, like everything else, the courts are compromised now.
The whole system is broken.
Australia, particularly.
Okay, so we went pretty mad in the UK during the COVID nonsense.
But Australia completely lost the plot.
Oh, just crazy, just crazy.
In fact, you were forbidden to protest.
This is late 2020, early 2021 and so that's when my husband held a protest every two weeks and of course that's not on the news.
It's not on the news that there is a movement in Australia of Australians with that good old Aussie fighter spirit who are rising up.
But, yeah, it was pretty bad.
You couldn't go from state to state, so I have to tell you what I did.
We had a guest that said, hey, Barb, I've got a light plane and I'm flying to Tasmania next week.
Want to come?
And I said, sure do.
So we flew under the radar like criminals flying into Tasmania so I could see my two daughters and grandkids that I hadn't seen for a year.
How's that that you have to resort to that?
That's good.
So how did you get away with actually flying?
I mean, weren't they monitoring light planes?
We flew pretty low under the radar.
Literally under the radar.
And when we got to Tasmania, we landed in a paddock and it was real cloak and dagger stuff.
The pilot said, look, just stay in the plane for a minute.
And he got his workers to go into the shed and he came running back.
He said, jump out, get into that car.
We got into that car.
He drove us a few kilometres.
There was another car to meet us.
We jumped out of that car and into that car.
That is so cool and hilarious.
I mean, that's like SOE or something, flying in Lysander's into occupied France.
What the hell is that?
But the weird thing is, here we are talking about something that happened not just within our lifetimes, but within the lifetimes of every adult.
This was, what, three or four years ago.
The normies, for want of a better word, think it's all over.
They think it's just this weird thing that they'd rather forget.
Yes, well unfortunately it's not so.
It's not so because the... and of course that's the problem is the majority of people today are moulded by the media.
And in 2021 when people would say, Barbara what can I do to protect myself against COVID?
My classic answer was stop watching the news.
And so when I did get COVID apparently from a guest who came in, double vaxxed guest by the way, and gave it to half the people there, Yes, I had a headache for a day.
Yes, I had a high fever for 48 hours.
Yes, I was tired for a day, but then I was fine.
And people say, what did you do?
What did you take?
I said, nothing.
I took absolutely nothing because I know that I live in a body that can heal.
What did you do to the fever?
I said, let it run its course because it has a purpose.
I hardly ate anything.
I drank a lot of water and I slept a lot.
That's all you need to do.
You don't need to grab for this.
A lot of people stop the drug and grab for the supplement or the herb.
Well, I've got an incredible immune system and I know my immune system is strong because I drink all my water.
I run up and down hills every day.
I end with cold showers after my morning walk or if I'm at home, of course, I dive into the creek and Tomorrow I'll be at my friend's place up at Wicklow and we'll be diving into that Irish Sea.
And I eat as much organic food as I can.
I give my body the right conditions so when something like that happens, I just lie back and say, okay body, do what you're designed to do.
Actually, given that's one of my habits too, tell me about why cold showers and cold swims are good for you.
Well you can, and for the listeners, you can Google Dr Rhonda Patrick, and you know, there's a Wim Hof, there's quite a bit out there.
And when you have that quick cold shower, to understand why it has such an incredible effect on the body, we're warm-blooded creatures.
So when cold water touches us, there's a reaction.
Because if we stay in that cold water, like, you know, when the Titanic went down, a lot of people died being in that cold water.
Their body just actually stopped.
Because we're warm-blooded creatures.
But when we do the quick cold, we get that incredible tonic effect, that reaction effect.
And that tonic effect is basically the body saying, whoa, the cold's just hit us, move!
Our bone marrow makes more white blood cells, more red blood cells.
Our blood moves faster around the body.
Our blood that's carrying oxygen, water, nutrition, carrying away the waste, more white blood cells.
It's phenomenal.
I've got to ask you, because I mentioned on my telegram channel, which is full of tinfoil hat nutcases like you and me, and I mentioned that we'd met in a vegan restaurant.
And this prompted a reaction from some people saying, veganism isn't healthy, you know, blah, blah, blah.
You must have heard this before.
Oh yeah.
And I have to tell you, in a lot of cases, I agree.
I agree.
In fact, I don't call myself a vegan anymore because I've met some guest nutcase vegans and these are not nutcases like us who are really on to the truth.
I'll give you an example.
I'm at One Function.
There's a carrot cake and I love a bit of dessert.
And they had white fluff on top.
I said, what's that?
They said, oh, Barbara, it's vegan, it's vegan.
And I said, I know cow's cream, I know coconut cream, but what's that?
And they brought out this spray can.
And you press the button and it sprays out.
Do you know, it's at that point I realized chemicals are vegan.
Refined sugar is vegan.
Because it's not from animal.
In fact, I know That cow's cream would sit better in a person's body than that stuff.
And I understand when people say veganism is not healthy.
Well, I agree in many cases.
Because a lot of people who say they're vegan, yes they are, but they're not eating well.
And a lot of them are eating cereal and toast for breakfast, sandwiches for lunch, pasta for tea.
I mean, that's a dangerous diet.
That's a very unhealthy diet.
And I believe it's such a diet as that that has caused people to rush to the other, what I believe is also extreme, is just a carnivore diet.
We need to access whole foods.
So what I eat is I eat the plant-based keto diet.
Now that'll get most people's ears up because yes, the keto diet, I recognize it and it certainly can get results.
So how do I do a plant-based keto diet?
I eat beans.
I eat beans every day.
In fact, I eat beans every meal.
Lentils, chickpeas, lima beans, black-eyed beans.
I also eat some nuts and seeds every meal because the nuts and the seeds and the legumes They're high in the three essential food groups, which is fiber, proteins, and great fats.
And yes, I travel with my olive oil.
I put it on everything.
But a lot of vegans think fat's bad, salt's bad.
So there's all these misconceptions that have come in.
But it is true, and especially in the book Fibre Fuel, he gives a wonderful explanation and shows how the variety of plants are so important to feed a variety of microorganisms that live in our gastrointestinal tract, and they basically lay the foundation for our immune system.
So you see, it's all connected.
People can certainly get away with meat as long as it's organic, as long as they're cows that are out in the panic munching organic grass, meaning grass that has not been sprayed.
But it's not just that.
Then it has to be killed quickly.
Then it has to be processed so that it doesn't putrefy so quickly.
Personally, I'd just rather have veggies.
So a person can eat As long as it's a healthy meat, and as long as they pack it out with a lot of veggies, because the fact is, meat and dairy don't have any fibre, and our gut needs a nice amount of fibre, not only to feed our microorganisms, which establish our immune system, but also so that the colon's moving every day, because, you know, when a colon gets sluggish, then constipation, then brain fog, then
Hammerwise, you get a whole lot of other problems.
Yeah, but you've just made me think here.
As soon as one starts going down the diet rabbit hole and the alternative to Big Pharma rabbit hole, which we all do because we realize we're being poisoned and stuff, you quickly come upon this problem which is that you get Quite drastically conflicting advice from different experts.
So you get some people who say, our diet is so depleted of nutrients and minerals that we have to take supplements.
And then you get you saying, nah, you know, you don't do that.
And then you've got, I spoke to Natasha Campbell-McBride, you probably know.
Oh yeah, yeah, I love this stuff.
She's great.
I mean, she's very persuasive.
And she says, all our nutrition comes from animal fats, from animals.
And now here's you saying, well, you're living healthily on no animals.
So how does one negotiate this?
I love Natasha Campbell McBride.
And I've read Put Your Heart in Your Mouth.
I've read Gut and Psychology.
And I find it great.
I've learned a lot from it.
But I'm a Bible-believing Christian, and when God gave the original diet to Adam and Eve, it was a plant-based diet, and it was a balanced diet.
But unfortunately today, a lot of vegetarians have gone wheat, wheat, wheat, oats, wheat, wheat, wheat, wheat, wheat.
Now, the wheat was changed.
It was hybridized, so it's not a good food now.
But God didn't say, behold, I've given you wheat.
He said, behold, I've given you every herb-bearing seed, like this wonderful variety.
I do understand what Natasha is saying.
I do understand about the animal fats and there are some great animal fats and I use a lot of what she says on the gut and we've had people healing from gut problems.
But what we do is we use the miso, we use the olive oil, and that sort of comes in with some of more of the healing properties that she says is only found in the animal.
But we also use slippery elm.
And slippery elm is the powdered bark of the slippery elm tree.
And it contains growth stimulants which heal the gut and it coats, soothes and heals the lining of the gut.
So I acknowledge what she's saying, but I've got a little bit more of a slant in that we are getting healing, yes, doing her basic protocol, but doing it on a plant base and supplying those healing properties coming from the bones in the bone broth with
With the Celtic salt, with the miso, which brings in a little bit of your nice microbes, with the olive oil, which, you know, it's been used for centuries, but also with the healing from the Slicreon.
I was just thinking, you mentioned your Christian beliefs, and I'm sure you're right about Adam and Eve, and I'm guessing that when we go back to when heaven is restored, you know, after the Tribulation and stuff, I suspect we probably are not going to be Eating animals anymore?
I don't know.
Well, I have said this to people.
I said, well, especially, you know, Bible-believing Christians, they say, oh, heaven's going to be good.
I said, heaven's going to be wonderful, but did you know there's no death in heaven, which means we won't be eating meat.
It's a real, because this upsets me, because it means there's not going to be any fox hunting in heaven, which is, unless they just, we just chase them endlessly and they always get away, which is certainly fine.
You'll have to do it all here.
Yeah, but they're going to stop that.
But you know what, James?
I believe there'll be other delights.
But, okay, well, if, yeah, if the Bible is to be believed, yeah, it's going to be pretty good.
But I was thinking of Psalm 8.
I was thinking of, you know, all sheep and oxen, yea, and the beasts of the fields, the fowls of the air and the fish of the sea.
It's pretty clear from Psalm 8 that God is cool with us eating animals, that he's given us dominion over them.
And he made them of meat, for goodness sake.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I mean, after the flood, there were no plants growing.
And so what's interesting is the clean animals came in by the sevens, but the unclean animals came in by the twos.
So there was provision when the ark landed on the earth and all the water dried up, you know, they were eating meat because the plants hadn't grown yet.
So absolutely.
And if someone chooses to eat meat, it's certainly their prerogative.
But my look at it is from a nutritional point of view, and I have to tell you that the healthiest couple that came to our retreat were organic dairy farmers, and they ate a little meat.
It wasn't a large part of the diet, but they had huge amounts of vegetables and fruits and whole grains, and there was nothing wrong with them.
They were both in their late 60s, and I thought, You guys are in very good health.
In fact, the other guests are saying, what are you doing here at the health retreat?
They said, where else can we get such good food?
Where else can, for this price, is everything included?
Because most people come to the retreat to get better.
But these children, these people, there was nothing wrong with them.
I'll bet they hadn't been vaccinated ever though.
How can you tell?
That's the thing.
Do you know, I discovered this fascinating thing the other day.
I go riding every week and during COVID.
I made it my mission to persuade the mums not to vaccinate their little girls who often came out riding.
I said, don't do it.
It's a death jab.
I was like the mad crazy guy that did this.
Anyway, I then discovered that the woman who runs the riding school, unbeknownst to me, and she never admitted it during this time, had never vaccinated her children.
And she told me this only recently.
And what she said to me was, I mean, you look at them, they look really healthy.
So they've got they've got great teeth.
They've got they just look like people should.
And I realized there was a huge difference between unvaccinated.
Never.
And people have had the childhood like me.
Did you jab your children?
No.
So you woke up before, because so much pressure is put on us in those early years, isn't there?
Oh, there's a huge amount of pressure.
Huge amount of pressure.
Well, when I say no, my first daughter was preemie.
At five weeks she got whooping cough, so she was hospitalised with whooping cough.
I came out of that hospital and I believed that my daughter had whooping cough because people aren't vaccinated.
My next child came along only 18 months later and I went straight down to have him vaccinated and he reacted very badly.
So now I've got a child who got whooping cold and I've got a child who reacted badly and then I started to look and it was about that time I discovered the onion poultice.
So it all came about the same time.
So when I say no, I have six children, My first two got a little bit and that was back in the 70s but not not anymore.
My eyes started to be opened but I had 24 grandchildren and none of them are vaccinated.
That's that's a good track record.
Yes yes yes it is it is a good track record but you know what I knew I know that when my kids had kids, they weren't going to vaccinate because look how they were brought up.
Up in the rainforest, no television.
When you get sick, you put a poultice on.
We grew all our own food or a lot of our own food.
So they automatically are going to do that.
But they married people who didn't grow up like that.
I mean, who grows up like that?
Hardly anyone.
And I thought, they're going to get under pressure.
So you know what I did?
I just gave them Dr. Bruce Fife's book, Stop Autism Now.
And the first three chapters of his book, he's investigating where did autism come from?
And yes, the first three chapters are, do vaccines cause autism?
And he does an excellent exploration of what are vaccines?
What are in them?
Where'd they come from?
And he even found out that the guy who's over investigating vaccines is on the pharmaceutical payroll.
So once you read that info, so all my kids' partners saw that, and so they, you know, because you've got to be united.
You can't have one parent saying they've got to be vaccinated, the next parent saying no way.
You know, and I say to parents, I'm not going to tell you what to do.
You need to investigate.
And I know that every parent that vaccinates their child does it because they want the best.
There's no doubt about that.
So what they just need is information.
So this is what I say to people.
Go to the chemist, get a printout of what's in the vaccines and you'll be pretty shocked.
There are neurotoxins in there.
But also, if you're still not sure the doctor or the nurse that's going to vaccinate, ask them to sign this piece of paper that says they will be accountable if the child reacts.
Now, if every parent did that, what I have just advised, no child would be vaccinated.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Somebody asked you what your advice was for people who've been coerced or Yeah.
Brainwashed into taking the death jab.
I mean, the so-called COVID vaccine.
What would you say?
Well, it's most unfortunate because there's never been a vaccine like this.
There's never been a vaccine that has an mRNA.
Now, mRNA, that is a substance that keeps reproducing the spike protein.
So you've got a vaccine, you know, years ago, you could detox from it, but this one, this spike protein, the mRNA keeps reproducing it.
And it's the spike protein that's causing the nanoparticle clotting.
That's why we've got all these young men with myocarditis.
We've got these, you know, the sudden adult death syndrome, people just falling down, dying.
We've got 90 year old women who are starting to bleed vaginally, Stopped, you know, 30 years ago.
And I've spoken to several midwives who were saying you wouldn't believe the miscarriages.
And one midwife said to me, it appears that the placenta explodes when the pregnant woman has the vaccine.
So the COVID vaccine, it's all from this spike protein.
So the mRNA just keeps reproducing it, but the good news is there are three substances that I know of, there may be more, that inhibit the enzyme that the mRNA needs to produce the spike protein.
One is zinc, so taking zinc every day.
The other is dandelion.
So you can have dandelion coffee, dandelion tea, eat a few dandelion flowers a day, chop up the dandelion leaves into your salad or tablets or capsules.
And the third is white pine needle tea.
White pine needle tea has a plant chemical in it, like dandelion, like zinc, that inhibits The mRNA being able to produce the spike protein.
So if a person has been blackmailed, coerced, and many were into the COVID vaccine, they should take one of those for the rest of their lives.
Right, well that's sort of good news.
At least there is something that people can do.
There's something you can do to help, yeah.
Yes, where are you on the theory that even those of us who never took the The mRNA jabs.
That thing?
Yeah, that thing.
That we're still being got by shedding or these things called morgellons that are sprayed on us.
These kind of nanobot things.
Well, you know what I think?
I am not going to treat people the way I was treated.
Can't touch anyone.
Have to be a metre apart.
I'm not going to do that to the ones that have been vaccinated.
I have a body that was created to heal itself.
And I do all that I know to do to keep my immune system strong.
Shedding may be a thing.
It may not be a thing.
I don't know.
But you know, we've had guests ring up for our retreat Potential guests say, can you tell us how many of the guests have been vaccinated?
And we reply by saying it's none of our business.
And then we had another lady say, I want you to buy a brand new bathrobe for me because I don't want to wear your bathrobes in case a vaccinated person wore them.
Do you know what I mean?
We've got these extreme things really on both sides.
Yeah.
I, you know, it's a possibility.
It may, it may not be, but I don't worry about things that I have no control over.
But the things that I do have control over, I make sure that I give my body the right conditions for me to be able to do what I do.
And I'm sure that one day soon, maybe in a year or two, I don't know, I may not be able to travel.
I may not be able to do what I'm doing now, but while I can, I will.
I think you're right on travel.
They don't want us to travel.
That's part of the overall plan.
I've got to ask you some extreme things.
Say one of your kids got bitten by a taipan or a brown snake.
What would you do?
I'd slap the charcoal on straight away.
I'd give them charcoal by mouth.
I'd put the charcoal on.
And if I was concerned, I would take them to hospital to just, am I okay?
You know, it's like when my daughter got bitten by a funnel-web spider.
Oh, did she?
Yeah, I put charcoal on her.
I gave her charcoal.
I said, tell me if you start to feel a bit funny.
Well, after 10 minutes she did, so we took her in, but she actually never got worse than that.
And the antivenins, you know, they can be pretty nasty in themselves.
When my father was in hospital a few years ago, there was a lady in the next bed who was blown up like a balloon from an antivenin from a spider bite.
So it wasn't the spider bite that had done that to her, it was the antivenin.
You're the first person I think I've ever encountered who knows somebody who's been bitten by a funnel web.
So what happened?
We found a little ring-tailed possum on the road.
It was dead, but it had a baby in its pouch.
We took the baby home.
My daughter had the baby down her shirt all day long and in the cage overnight, and she had this little ring-tailed possum for about, I don't know, 18 months.
She's about 15.
She runs out one morning in her long flannelette nightie that we used to make on the treadle sewing machines, and we think that a funnel-web spider must have got onto the edge of her nightie.
Because she's getting dressed about half an hour later and she felt a sting on her arm and she whacked it because she saw it was a spider.
You see my kids are bush kids.
So we analysed the spider, which was a bit squashed, and then my son James, who was the botanist of the family, he said it's a funnel web, I can see the two spinnerets on the abdomen, and it was a female, and they're not as deadly as the male, and it was a small female, and we thought maybe we'll get away with it just with the charcoal.
So, that's actually how it happened.
She even got in the newspaper bitten by a funnel-web spider.
So, we took her in because, you know, you don't want your kid to die.
No, you don't.
And I always say to people, try the poultices, try this.
And that's why I said to Emma, if you feel a bit funny, we'll go in and have it further checked.
But She was okay.
In fact, the doctor said, no, she's going fine.
He was a little bit surprised at this black poultice that was on her arm, which was the charcoal.
Just charcoal?
Because you're a big fan of castor oil poultices as well, aren't you?
Yeah, that's the other one that I think got worldwide sold out was the castor oil.
But I have to tell you a very interesting story.
I'm in Ireland at the moment, and it was last year I flew into Dublin, and the people who were picking me up said, oh, you're finally here.
We're going to go to the bathroom.
So I'm standing there for, I don't know, five minutes, and a man came up and said, are you on the internet?
Yeah, yeah.
He's about 50.
He said, my hand was starting to shrink up like a claw because all the tensions in here were getting tighter and tighter.
Happened to my father.
He said, I watched your lecture online on castor oil.
And he said, every day I massage castor oil into that hand.
He said, look at my hand.
He said, it's totally, totally gone.
Oh!
So can I use that for my arthritis?
At the base of my thumb I've got this kind of arthritis that occasionally comes.
Would that work?
And me too, James.
I've got a little bit there in the base of my thumb.
So I wear a castor oil compress on it every night.
So easy.
A few layers of cloth, dampen it with castor oil, put it on, a bit of plastic, and you bandage it on.
And the beauty of it is, every night I take it off, fold it over, Next night, unwrap it, put it back on.
I've been using the same compress for about, I don't know, two months.
So you soak it with castor oil?
You don't put too much on because when the warmth of the body thins the oil, if you've got too much on it'll start dripping everywhere and that is no fun.
So you just dampen it.
You just pour it on.
And you don't pour it over the whole thing, just the middle third maybe.
Because that's what I've noticed when using the castor oil.
It's a real pain to use.
It's so sticky and it gets everywhere.
Yeah, well, they've just put too much on.
OK, OK.
So we've covered the poultices.
People, I mean, I don't anymore, but I used to because we're trained to do so.
People obsess about cancer.
Don't they?
Norm is, it's their big fear.
Well the word cancer strikes fear in people's hearts because the fact is people die from cancer and a lot of people think if they get cancer it's a death sentence, which is most unfortunate.
But my first book, Self-Heal by Design, I assess cancer.
I look at it, I look at the history of it, I look at the links that come together to to cause it and I have some simple guidelines in there on what you can do about it and of course it changes depending on the type of cancer.
Yeah yeah yeah maybe it's maybe rather than tell me on the on this podcast it's probably better that they get you your book but you wouldn't worry about it if you if you suddenly well not that you would get it but if you got it what would you do?
I would immediately think, now where did this come from?
That's like some people say, how come you've got a little bit of arthritis in your thumb?
Well, my mum died a cripple in a wheelchair with the arthritis at 51, and I'm way past 51 and I'm not a cripple in a wheelchair.
If that's all I've got, I say, thank God, that's it.
So I do give my body the right conditions, but we do live in an imperfect world.
And I had a lady ask me a question last night, a little six-year-old, you know, with a brain tumour.
That's really tough.
Really tough.
But you know, the track record of chemotherapy is not very good.
The fact is more seem to die from the chemo than the than the cancer itself.
So every single case is different.
And that's another thing I don't like about medicine.
Everything's a blanket.
You've got cancer.
Here's the protocol.
What about the person?
What about their history?
What about the different causes that might have come together to cause this?
And so I believe that everyone should be their own doctor because looking at our history gives us an indication why this might have happened.
Maybe you're living under huge electrical wires.
Maybe it all started when the smart meter got put on your home.
Maybe it's the moldy basement.
There's so many things that can come together.
But if I did have it, I would not do chemotherapy.
I would not do radiotherapy.
And I very much doubt if I do surgery.
I acknowledge surgery's come a long way.
I mean, if I had a tumor in my abdomen that was blocking off my colon, I might have to have surgery, because if your colon's blocked, you don't go anywhere.
But I also think that people have lost the art of listening to what their body says.
That I believe that your body will give you some indications if there's a problem brewing.
Yeah, yeah.
You said something which really rang true with me the other night.
You were asked about how you deal with anxiety about what's coming, you know, thinking about... because it's going to get a lot worse, isn't it?
I mean, if the Bible is correct, which it is, Yeah.
Well, do you know, there's a statement in there, it's in Daniel chapter 12 verse 1, it says, there's a time of trouble coming such as has never been on the planet.
And I look at that and I think, whoa, that's big.
But you know what I also think?
Worrying about it's not going to make it work, you know, what's that going to do?
But what I like to do is what else the Bible says is love today, love this moment.
And I know that God has got me through some pretty sticky situations.
He's actually got me through airports where you're not allowed to go unless you're vaccinated.
I don't presume... Tell us that story briefly because I think that's rather good.
Yeah, it's a pretty good one.
It's early 2022 and you're not allowed to get into the US unless you're vaccinated.
And I had an exemption from an Irish doctor, but I also know in America they can go, we don't accept the Irish doctor's exemption.
Michael tried to book me in online, Would not let you book in online unless you had a vaccine certificate.
So Michael said, I'm coming to the airport with you.
I think we're going to have trouble.
Now I had two months work all booked in the US and they were, they were having kittens wondering if I was going to get there.
And we said, we've done everything we can.
Let's just see.
So we walk into the airport.
It's a country airport.
They know me because I think I'm their most traveled local.
And I walked in and the guy looked up and he said, Hey Barb, they've changed your flight.
I said, really, John?
What have they done?
Anyway, it was just delayed two hours.
It just meant, you know, he had to change the next flight, the connecting flight.
Anyway, we're just standing there.
Michael's got all the papers under his arm, ready to, you know, show and do.
Anyway, the next thing, he gives me my boarding passes.
He said, well, your bags are booked straight through.
Have a good flight, Bob.
Here's your boarding passes.
So Michael and I looked at each other and went, We're in.
Then I had to fly to Sydney, and then I got an upgrade to business class.
And when you're in business class, it's almost as if, oh, come through, madam.
You know, so there was no issue there.
So I'm texting Michael, I'm on the plane, I'm on the plane.
So we're landing in Dallas, and the loudspeaker in the plane said, have your vaccine pass ready.
You will have to show it at immigration to be able to get into the United States of America.
Do you know, there's a little bit of a flipper inside of me going, ah, what am I going to do?
But you know, I thought, well, God's got me this part, I'm just going to trust.
And by the way, what's the worst?
They're not going to shoot me.
They're not going to put me in a back room and pull my fingernails out.
Do you know what I mean?
That's why I say to people, follow your fears.
What are you afraid of?
All they're going to do is put me on a plane back to Australia.
I thought, oh, I can handle that.
I love home.
Anyway, we land, I'm lining up and the immigration office, I can hear him saying to the guy, why are you coming to America?
Because that's what they do.
Where's your vaccine pass?
You know, drilling them.
And they're madly looking for their papers.
So there's a little flutter of possible fear.
No, I'm going to choose not to go there.
And then the guy next door, a new immigration office opened and he pulled me over or, you know, Waved me over.
Two guys behind me ran, but when they saw me they let me go first.
So, I give him my passport.
What's your reason for coming to the US?
I've got a daughter.
My daughter lives in Wisconsin.
My daughter's got seven children and her eldest son has his wife's also... And I'm smiling, looking straight at him.
He stamps the passport, gives it to me and says, have a good stay.
So that's the secret.
Bore on about your children and grandchildren.
No one wants to know apart from this.
I'm sure the last thing in his mind is, this woman's not a threat.
But isn't it interesting, I'm texting Michael, I'm in, I'm in!
I think these things do work, but back to your original point about what the Bible tells us to appreciate the moment.
I was recommending to you Psalm 118 when we met, and there's a line in it which goes, this is the day that the Lord hath made, we will rejoice and be glad in it.
That's right and that you know that's that's just the best advice and I think that is excellent advice for people who are worried about tomorrow.
Now of course we have a little thought to tomorrow we've got a plan we've got a bit of a plan we're going here we're doing that but it's not taking up all your thoughts.
In fact we should mostly be loving where we are and What's nice to do is to just sit and look at where you are.
You know, I'm in this beautiful little bed and breakfast.
We're on the second story.
It was a comfortable bed.
Can you see what you're doing?
I'm enjoying this chat with you, James.
You know, that's a nice picture you've got in the background.
I quite like your jumper that you've got on, James.
It's good.
It's Aurora.
Yeah, yeah, your right collar's tucked under there, you've got to pull that collar out.
I've got a scarf on at the moment that a lady gave me as a present, and actually I've got a New Zealand possum and merino and silk throw from my friend Jason.
I like that very much.
Can you see what you're doing?
You're just concentrating on the now.
And when you concentrate on the moment, on the now, past pain is not so worrisome and future problems aren't so worrying.
I know there's trouble ahead, but you know what?
Every day I'm putting my armor on.
What's my armor?
I'm well hydrated.
I'm well slept.
I'm so glad that Jenny and I went out before the rain came for our For our morning runs and walks, and can you see what I'm doing?
And I've also surrendered my life to God, and I've said, Father in heaven, I'm yours.
You want me here?
I'll go here.
You want me there?
I'll go there.
If it's time to go, thank you, Father, I'm nearly home.
If it's time not to go, I know that God will give me the ability and the courage to do what I've got to do.
That's so good.
That's going to make a lot of people happy.
Are you doing loads more interviews and stuff?
Today we've got to travel to Dublin.
We've got a very large event tonight.
Brilliant.
And we need to get out of our bed and breakfast probably within the next hour.
But I'm happy to give you an hour, James.
How long have we had?
I haven't been counting.
I think we've got another five minutes.
Okay, that's good.
I was reared on films like Gallipoli and Crocodile Dundee.
The image portrayed of Australians is, you know, no worries mate, put another shrimp on the barbie, that kind of thing.
That was not the impression of Australia I got from during the COVID lenacy.
What happened to Australia?
Also remember that the media will give you the very worst.
Know that my husband is a real Aussie bloke and he stands, he's fearless, but There are an element in Australia that are watching the news.
There are an element in Australia who believe that the government did a wonderful job, unfortunately.
So I guess it's like in every country, you've got different types.
But wherever I go, people say to me, what happened to Australia?
And I said, yeah, I think a lot of Australians in the Crocodile Dundee era, Now, as you see Paul Hogan in that movie, do you know that's him?
He didn't even have to act.
That's just the way he is.
And he's very typical of the average output Aussie.
Now we live in the country, and you know what we found?
The outback Aussies who aren't watching the news, who are out there fixing the fences and bringing the sheep in, do you know they didn't go along with this at all?
So that's another indication that the media is moulding the minds of the masses.
Unfortunately, 75% of Australians now live in the city.
So that's a large percentage.
It doesn't mean that 75% are with what the government's saying, because there's a movement.
There's a movement rising up.
I'll give you one example.
Michael met this lady the other day who wants to be one of his candidates.
She said, I was a policewoman.
And she said, in 2021, I was told to go and arrest these people.
She said, no.
She said, these are just average Aussies who are standing up for their rights.
I'm not going to arrest someone because they're not putting a mask on.
I didn't join the police to do this.
And she saw the writing on the wall.
And so she she got out before she was sacked.
So you see what I mean?
And there are people, and I'm sure everyone's heard of Woody, Graeme Wood, the Qantas airline pilot.
Oh yes, of course.
Yeah, yeah.
He's a real Aussie.
Every time he presents, he sings an Aussie song.
So understand that, that there's a movement that the news will not tell you about, who of the true blue Aussies are saying, no way, mate.
We're not doing this.
But unfortunately, in fact, I have to tell you, the majority have gone with the media, which is unfortunate.
So you're a Christian.
When, by the way, were you always a Christian?
I was brought up a Christian, but I really wanted to do my own way and I went a little bit wild for about eight years.
And then I came back because it made sense to me.
When I read the Bible, I thought this This is good.
And so it was probably about the age of 26 I became a Christian.
And so where do you think, how is this all going to end?
I mean obviously we know it ends happily.
Obviously.
But it's the bit before the happy ending I'm interested in.
That's right.
Jesus came the first time and the Bible says that he will come again.
And I say to people, do you know you've got a health problem?
The natural remedies will help you to manage it.
And when Jesus comes in the clouds of heaven, we'll all be cured.
But he's not here yet.
And there's a bit of mess to go through first.
And you're right, James.
The Bible says there will be a happy ending.
You know, there's a bit of muck between time.
It's almost as if God had to let human beings have a look at the result of what choosing wrong does and what choosing right does.
And that's what God gave each one of us is the right to choose.
And unfortunately, you know, there are people that choose wrong and innocent people suffer.
It's the nature of the beast.
Well, I can see that we're going to go through a learning process.
So what I'm curious about is that I think the sort of, for want of a better word, awake people, that they divide into two camps.
There are those who think, yeah, we will be able to get the message to enough people and we just need to do more and do this and do that.
And then there are Christians who say, well, that's all very well, but things are so bad now that really this is God's going to have to Yeah, we need to make things new and that is true because, you know, we human beings, we've done a pretty bad job of looking after the planet, you know, the resources are running out.
Do you know what Australia's done?
It's destroyed all of our power plants, closed them down, all the coal power plants and destroyed them because of this Myth.
Yes.
Climate change.
And you know what?
China's got thousands of boats just offshore taking all our coal.
Taking all our coal.
And Australia, that's the only thing that's keeping Australia afloat, is the mines.
So, yeah, it doesn't look good, and it would be nice if we could fix it up, but I think it's going to take superhuman effort to fix it up, and the Bible says there'll be a new heaven and a new earth, so it will get better.
It certainly will get better, but it's going to get worse first.
Yeah.
Just one final question.
Where are you on... there's going to be no sea?
Well, yeah, I guess it depends what you mean by sea.
In the whole of Revelation, there's sort of like, there's symbols and there's signs, you know, and it talks about locusts flying through the air.
We think it was probably helicopters.
Oh yeah, that would be it!
When the Bible was written, there were no helicopters.
So it's, you know, and I think a lot of these writers that were writing the prophecy bits like Revelation and Daniel, that they just wrote what they saw.
And some of the things that they wrote about, you know, haven't happened yet.
You know, it says in Revelation 13 that it'll come to a point where you will not be able to buy and sell whether you have the mark of the beast.
So, I mean, that's a whole nother subject.
I mean, things like that haven't happened yet.
No, that's going to be CBDCs or it's going to be vaccine passports or something, isn't it?
Yeah, well it's going to be interesting actually.
You know, there are a few theories because that's what I say.
It can't be a physical sign because otherwise someone could hold me down and physically tattoo.
That's not my choice, you know.
Unless, you know, it's on the forehead or the hand.
What's the forehead?
That's where we make our decisions.
What's the hand?
That's what we do things with.
So, you know, it could be that sort of meaning.
It's what we decide and what we do.
They're the things that will decide our destiny, really, and that's true.
It's going to be interesting anyway.
Barbara... We will!
It's been great talking to you.
I'm so glad I could finally get you on the pod.
Tell us about your new book and where we can find you and stuff like that.
Well my new book is called Sustain Me and the Sustain Me is an acronym of the Basic Laws of Health and my Bible verse is Psalm 55, 22.
Cast your burden upon the Lord and he shall sustain thee.
He will never suffer the righteous to be moved.
That's a beautiful verse.
But anyway, that's the Sustain Me.
It's a handbook on natural remedies.
I start with the head and I've got a chapter on the eyes, a chapter on the ears, a chapter on the respiratory, the nose.
So the mouth, I've got a whole chapter on the mouth, how we can look after our teeth and gums.
So I go through the whole body.
I can't say I've covered every single thing, but I've endeavoured to cover a lot of the ailments we humans get and the simple things you can do to bring about healing.
My book, Self-Heal by Design, my first book was really about the true role of microorganisms in disease and then this book is the handbook on natural remedies.
Because of my explosion on the internet and more funds coming in, we've been able to do a beautiful job of the Sustain Me.
It's full color and the beautiful shiny pages.
It's about twice as thick as the Yes, we are.
We have a guy in Scotland named Steve, and he's got a business and a big shop called The Good Food Project.
And we're printing Sustain Me and Self Heal by Design in Scotland now, so you can get it off him.
And there's another one called The Little Barn.
That's a business where they also sell my books.
So if you're in the United Kingdom, it's The Good Food Project or Little Barn.
They're the two places.
I can't read it.
So, tonight we'll have... I don't know.
I've got my friend here that'll write it down.
Do it in big letters.
But I don't know.
I think if you Google the Good Food Project or Little Barn... Yes, well we like the Good Food Project because they're sponsoring my show with Mike Yeadon.
Yeah, well look, that guy Steve, he's a, he's dynamo.
I talked, he was at the venue the night before last and he said, yeah, we've just ordered 12,000 more Sustain Me books.
He said they're going like hotcakes.
I bet they will.
It's absolutely fantastic.
I mean, you've actually made me want to go and eat the dandelions in my, in my garden now.
Sustain Me in Ireland, yeah.
Little Barn.
Littlebarnhealth.com.
Okay.
And have you got a website?
I mean, is there a collected place?
You can go, you can download my lectures on www.selfheelbydesign.com.
You can also have a look at where I'm going to be speaking.
So it's got my schedule.
I know about the next week or so, but I don't know where I'm going to be.
But the website shows you where.
Brilliant.
Well, good luck with your tour.
Don't get arrested.
Don't get chucked in prison for three years for talking about sea salt in water, because that's, you know... Well, I've got to tell you one last little story.
I was in Kuala Lumpur, I think two or three weeks ago, and this little church there got me to go, and they thought 50 people had come and 500 booked in, so they booked a huge hotel and 600 arrived.
And apparently it's illegal to evangelize there because it's a Muslim country and someone put up on Facebook that I'd quoted a Bible verse and so the next night the immigration head of police and three police came with the view apparently to close the meeting down and arrest me.
So they opened the doors and they saw all these people.
They saw a member of the royal family.
They saw some famous people.
They saw some celebrities.
So they went, ah, we might just leave this.
Oh, that is so funny.
Isn't it?
And of course I'm totally unaware.
I don't know who's in the audience and I'm unaware of all that.
So when I'd finished, the organisers said, the Immigration and the Police wanted to meet you.
So I go up to them smiling like a Cheshire cat.
I think it gets you through many, many experiences and shake their hands and they said, We've never seen Muslims, Hindus, Christians, Chinese, Japanese, Indians all together in one meeting.
They said we have never seen this.
Well done.
Isn't that incredible?
That's great.
What a nice story to end the show.
Well, again, good luck with your tour.
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I'm definitely going to get one.
I think it'd be fantastic.
It's what we need.
Dandelions.
That's good.
Great.
Thanks a lot, Barbara.
Okay.
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