Andreas Kalcker is a biophysical researcher. He talks about the remarkable success of Chlorine Dioxide in treating conditions from vaccine injury to cancer. His website is Andreaskalcker.com
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Welcome to the Deling Pod with me James Delingpoll and I know I always say I'm excited about this week's special guest but I really am looking forward to talking to Dr. Andreas Kalka about chlorine dioxide.
It's that simple, isn't it?
You know all about chlorine dioxide.
Well, I can tell you I don't.
I'm 17 years with the substance and the more I learn, the more I learn that I do not know.
Right.
OK.
It's like in the beginning, it sounds simple in the beginning, but the more the research on one subject, the more you realize that there's much more to it.
Right, but we can start with the very basics.
I mean, I've got lots of people in my various internet chat groups who swear by chlorine dioxide and isn't it also known as MMS or is that something else?
That's a grandfather, let's say.
So, the grand-grandfather is known as MMS, but we have developed in the years, it's now 17 years ago, the CDS that does not contain chloride and that's pH neutral.
So, it does not cause side effects like, for example, diarrhea.
Oh, okay.
So, MMS was the original one and then it kind of got modified and improved?
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
OK, so people swear by it, and I haven't tried it myself yet, but I'm sure that if I did... I mean, I've only heard one person who doesn't rate it.
I mean, are there cases where it doesn't work?
Yes, there are cases.
The illness is where it does not work, obviously.
We have to understand it as a substance, and this substance, what it does is a change of electrons.
Electron, proton, protonic compensation.
It's really working on an electromolecular level.
It's not a simple substance.
Right.
So is it like it makes your body function better and your immune system function better?
I mean, what's the deal?
Well, I can make it simple here.
We'll make it simple.
So the academics, I can do it academic too, but I try to make it as simple as possible.
If we understand that we can have one month without food or even three days without water, the main question we have to do ourselves is, how long can we be without oxygen?
Three minutes?
Four minutes?
And so we can establish that oxygen is the most important substance for life.
There's no other substance.
Who needs the oxygen?
Well, our cells and inside our cells is a mitochondria that are burning glucose to make energy.
And for to burn something, same like in a barbecue, you need oxygen.
If it doesn't, you do it.
And this is basically one of the problems nowadays in the human society.
Our oxygen levels are really low because we intake a lot of substances that are acidic and everything that is acidic or create acidity, metabolic acidity, then we can say this is basically 90% of all illnesses.
Not all, but most of them.
So, our body is too acidic and this is the problem.
Name it fibromyalgia, name it diabetes, name it whatever you want.
And what is creating this acidity?
Well, it can be your lactic acid when you make sport.
It can be histamine, which means inflammations.
It can be a virus, any kind of virus.
It can be and this is the spike protein.
It is a bacteria.
It is a fungus.
So anything that harms us is mostly acidic.
And when we go to, on this minimum denominator, say, on the electromolecular level, we say, OK, what can we do?
Well, we have a substance.
This substance is ClO2.
What is ClO2?
Chlorine dioxide.
So people will say, oh, my God, it's chlorine.
No, it's not.
There's not one single chlorine molecule inside chlorine dioxide.
On an atomic basis, it's a different thing, because we have chloride.
That's chlorine, too.
So, as an atomic.
So, we don't have to mix these two things.
This is one of the many mistakes done.
Well, obviously, there are the bleach idiots, sorry to say, because all they are diatonic or they're idiots, because bleach is transparent and chlorine dioxide is yellow.
So, if you don't see the difference, it's up to you.
On a scientific basis, you say, okay, we go down and we really have chlorine dioxide.
What does it do to the body?
So when it comes to an acidic point like a virus or like a fungus or inflammation, it gets dissociated.
So the ClO2 It's separated, it's intermediate steps, but basically what's left over is chloride, not chlorine, chloride, that's salt, table salt, what we eat every day.
And on the other hand, we have oxygen, O2.
So where do we have the problem?
Well, yes, we have oxygen depletion in the cells, and this is a problem because of bacteria, virus, fungus, or whatever, metabolic acidosis.
And then we have to understand, hey, wait a minute, there's a common denominator for most of the things.
And this common denominator makes it possible that you say, OK, what do I have to do?
Well, basically, you have a bottle of water.
In the bottle of water, you make 10 milliliters of CDS.
It's called protocol C. And this you take during the day, each hour a little bit, let's say 100 milliliters, and it increases two things.
First, your oxygen levels.
Then you will say, OK, how much?
Well, one protocol C during the day has, if you make the calculations, you can calculate that, 1,700,000 molecules for each red blood cell.
We have millions and billions of red blood cells.
1,700,000 molecules for each red blood cell.
And we have millions and billions of red blood cells.
So we have to understand it gives you oxygen.
This is really one of the most important parts.
But in the same process, it releases charge.
And this is more important to you.
So, the charges are increased in the body.
And this is the key factor.
Because with more charge, you have a higher energy level.
Because in my job as a biophysicist, I can say, My discovery is to say, illness is a lack of energy, whatever name you give it.
And it can be caused by this, by this, by this.
But in the end, it's a lack of energy.
So if you increase the energy that the cell on a cellular level has, so we will recover because the body is designed to function by itself once it has enough energy and to recover itself and to clean up and whatever he has to do. so we will recover because the body is designed to There's lots of bodily functions we know already in medicine, of course.
Is it a new thing?
I mean, were the kind of things in the past that did the same effect, had the same effect, or was it only recently discovered?
Let's say it is not new.
The first patent was 1949.
Philippe Laszlo, who found out it works perfectly against burns, because in the burns you have lactic acid and if you put it sprayed on the wounds, the wounds heal fantastically.
He was, let's say, the first.
Later was Howard Allinger.
Howard Allinger, he made the research for the EPA, the papers together.
That is now, for example, in drinking water, for drinking water supply.
And later he made a company called Alcide.
And in the 90s he made another patent, let's say, for blood transfusions.
So it cleans up the blood.
It doesn't destroy it.
And it increases energy, by the way.
So, and later we have Jim Humble.
Jim Humble found out it works on malaria.
And he makes the MMS, let's say, he makes it by mixing chloride with another.
That's a great thing.
It works, yes.
But there were inconveniences, like, for example, chloride.
This is a leftover product in the substance in the secondary reaction to the stomach, which CVS does not have anymore.
So, the CVS is, let's say, the pure gas dissolved in water.
And this is fantastic because the only thing it is, is in the end a chloride, table salt, less than a grump or a crystal, and we have oxygen in the same moment and charge.
This is the three things that makes it a universal antidote, actually.
And is there any naturally occurring substance that has similar effects?
Or does it have to be manufactured in a lab?
It can't.
It can't.
There's no way.
Because if the body could do it, it would.
Because actually, how is this made?
It's based from salt.
From the salt you make sodium hypochlorite.
From the hypochlorite you make chlorate.
And from the chlorate you have to go one step back.
to go to chloride.
And this chloride actually has to be acidified.
So there's no way to make it on a human way, on a biological way.
What you're saying makes a lot of sense to me.
I mean, apart from vaguely knowing that people have had great success with it, I haven't really looked into it yet, which is why I'm getting you to be my expert.
But it does remind me of... Have you ever heard of something called the Botteco Method?
No.
No, Buteyko was a, I think he was Ukrainian, but he was one of those sort of elite sports doctors in the Soviet Union.
And he theorised that one of the main problems with With our health, the cause of what he called diseases of civilization, you know, things like fibromyalgia, a lot of these things, was down to the inability of our bodies to absorb enough oxygen.
Yeah, and he theorized, you know, we live in an oxygen-rich environment.
The problem is not the lack of oxygen in the air.
He theorized that if one could somehow boost the body's CO2 levels, it would enable, according to is it Bohr's law, enable the body to better to absorb the oxygen that already had in it.
That's totally wrong.
Sorry, that's absolutely wrong.
Well, it works.
I've tried it.
I mean, it's amazing.
For example, if you have an intubated patient, you can increase the oxygen, but the CO2 levels rise to 80 and that's why they die.
So, CO2 is compensating.
It's a waste product of your body, actually.
Well, we're not going to argue on this one because we're here to talk about I was just floating that one past you.
You're not going to buy it.
I think we probably agree to disagree.
I agree.
I agree to the oxygen levels.
Yes, but the way I don't agree to the way.
Yeah.
Well, maybe, you know, check it out sometime.
It is more interesting than I think, you know, than you're suggesting so far.
We have to understand that this theory is on a still higher level.
It's at the biochemical level.
I'm going more down.
I'm going down because the question is, why do you have oxygen?
You have blood cells.
If you take red blood cells and you put them in the laboratory, I can put it here, we're downstairs in the laboratory, I can put all the oxygen in one, they do not get more oxygen.
So the question is, why do you get oxygen in your lung?
It's an electrical process, it's an electrical charge process.
So the blood comes to the heart, the heart gives the discharge, and this discharge creates that there is a gradient, and this gradient uh forces the red blood cell in the lung to uptake to level the oxygen level so oxygen is the not it's not a cause it's an effect it's an effect of charges so we go much further down than just simple chemistry it's electromolecular medicine
I'll completely buy this electrical effect.
I don't really understand it, but I'll take your word for it.
What are the raw ingredients for it, for chlorhexidine?
Well, it's quite simple.
It's sodium chloride with a T. Salt.
So NaClO2.
And an acid, basically.
Or you can make it the electrolytic way, too.
We now don't use the acid anymore.
We make it electrolytically.
And it works perfect.
So it creates a gas.
The gas is bubbled through water.
And the water absorbs, like a sponge, this gas.
Then the water is turned yellow.
And you have your concentrate.
This concentrate you use a little bit for your drinking water on a daily basis.
It's called protocol C.
And I can't imagine it's difficult or expensive to manufacture.
No, if you can make a marmalade, you can make it.
You have many, many grandfathers.
I had right now in the foundation somebody, he said, well, I'm 88 years old.
He came the four steps up and he was very happy to see me here and say, I made my one and I want you please to check if it's the right concentration.
Yes, and he made it perfect himself, just looking at the videos that you can find online.
And obviously it can't be patented, so I imagine that the pharmaceutical industry is not very interested in this, doesn't like this product very much.
It's a yes and no.
Let's say, for example, you cannot patent chlorine dioxide, but I have, for example, four patents on it, and that I gave free to the world.
It's for inflammation, it's for hypoxia, it's for intoxication, sepsis, and other ones are coming now too.
So the patent actually is another scan of our society.
A patent, for example, if I have something and for example a big company like Pfizer copy it and make just one little change, They can do it.
So I have to sue the company and it's totally impossible for a single person to sue somebody like Pfizer with 4,000 lawyers and all the money of the world.
So what I did, what is to make the patent and later to give it free.
So it's now free to the world and big companies cannot prohibit it because there is a big company that 2012 Yeah, yeah.
is for Alzheimer's disease or for dementia.
And they never put the product out because they have other products they sell and it's not interesting for them.
It's a question of money.
We have to understand industry is not there to heal, the industry is there to make money.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So how do you make your money?
I have a book.
My book is in 11 languages.
I have enough from this and it's sold many, many hundred thousand times.
Oh, that's good.
And why are you based in Mexico?
Well, actually, we have here a building.
Chlorine dioxide is much more advanced than the Latin American states, for example.
We managed in Bolivia to get it by law, so it's used and applied by law, legally.
In Mexico, we have here all the military tools that are using it.
We have many, many things, too, in the Latin American.
So the English community is far back behind and because they are, let's say, they were not interested at the moment in coronavirus and I got blocked everywhere.
And so here we have a community now of more than 5,000 doctors in the ComoSaf organization that's part of the foundation.
And there were people, for example, that make donations.
Actually, this building here where I am, four-story building, is a donation from somebody who saved his life.
Really?
Yes.
Somebody... What did you run?
A cartel or something?
He must have been quite rich.
No, it's not a cartel, no.
It's a building, you know.
It's not quite rich.
No, no, no.
I mean the guy, the donor.
He must have had a lot of money.
We have not one.
We have two buildings, Scott.
We have another one.
It is Soriana, for example.
And this is the kind of Walmart in Mexico.
We have to understand Mexico is 180 million people.
It's a lot of people.
And there are very rich people here, obviously, yes.
Well, that's great.
And I noticed that on your website you mention Bolivia.
Is that because they used chlorine dioxide to treat this thing that people call coronavirus?
Yes, of course.
It was very successful.
Actually, this was the first country where we get it because the Senate was ill, the politicians.
We got it through the military because I had contacts in the different militaries like Mexico and other countries too.
We got it there.
We would heal the Senate and the Senate says, yes, well, let's make a law to make it fast to everybody.
And they did it and it's still there.
And so in Bolivia, there's not a problem to use it at all.
Actually, our foundation here has now signed an agreement together with the military on the highest levels.
And they will imply for every soldier that it will be able to give it to people in the villages that are extremely poor.
We have to understand these are people that are really, really poor and there's very bad medical coverage over because you're from the Amazonas to the high mountains.
Yeah, I don't know much about Bolivia.
I can't remember, you know, reading, because one read reports about different countries' performance during the so-called pandemic.
And I know that some in South America did really badly and had Outrageously high death rates and some fared better.
So was Bolivia the best for outcomes?
From the moment it was implemented, the death rate from over 104 persons in the next months went down to four.
Right, so at what stage of the, I hate calling it pandemic because it wasn't, that's just a lie.
Actually, it's a plandemic.
Plandemic, yeah.
At what stage of the plandemic did this happen?
It was, I think, it's in my website, I think it was in September, something like that, 21.
Well, I suppose I'm not so interested in the month, I'm more interested in exactly, was there a point before that where Bolivia was in serious trouble and they suddenly thought we must do something?
Yes, before in August it was 104 deaths a day.
I have no metric to compare that with.
Let's say Bolivia has the same amount of people like Austria.
It's not more.
So it's a small country with 12 million people.
There's a book, it's called Bye Bye Covid, where everything is explained by the doctors, all the story.
Because we know, I mean, the fact that you use the term pandemic suggests to me that we're on the same page here.
That enormous pressure was put on countries all around the world.
They had no autonomy really.
I mean, and you had the World Health Organization and its bully boys in Big Pharma.
Essentially, forcing countries to take their dodgy vaccines, to impose these vaccines on the unwitting populace, it would have been... How come Bolivia got away with taking a measure which I'm sure would not have met with the approval of the WHO?
Because the WHO has no power in Bolivia.
It has power in other countries, like Brazil.
How does a small 12 million nation like Bolivia get away with it?
There was a different political situation.
Wow, that's interesting.
And was it the same in Mexico?
In Mexico, it's not the same, but similar.
It's in Honduras too, for example.
In Honduras, the Minister of Health at the time, or the cabinet, got ill and that we managed to get through the police and other military too.
The contacts and they get healed, everybody.
And the First Lady of the country, she was 36 days with Corona, very bad.
She recovered too.
And they said, well, in the meetings, I said, can't we make another law like in Bolivia?
And they said, no.
I said, why?
Washington don't let us.
Aha.
So can we do something else?
Yes, we can make a law about that.
No doctor can be pursued or persecuted by using the substance with this substance and other substance too.
Like, for example, Indian, Native Indian And so they made a law that nobody can be pursued by this, and it's still up to date.
Do you want the card?
It's probably upstairs in the bedroom somewhere.
Oh, in my blue zip-up thing.
Sorry.
Important.
Daughter needs credit card.
I don't know whether you've got daughters.
They really like credit cards.
It's quite interesting talking about this stuff again.
It feels like a sort of trip down memory lane because It's almost as though the world has contrived to forget that there was this period of about two or three years in which... It will not, because we have now 17 million dead people and it's going on.
We have more than 5,000 doctors that are saying we don't understand what's going on.
We have turbo cancer, we have all kinds of follow-ups due to this so-called vaccine that is basically a genetic modification.
And they found out that works because I published a document on spikes specifically in Scientific Publics.
It's in Enthiricum where we can see that the cysteine 145 and tyrosine 489 is oxidized no matter what.
So it means it will work and it has to work as well on the vaccine like on the virus.
And it does actually because when you test Before and after the ferritin and the demerod levels, then you can see we have absolutely improved.
In the beginning, the VEX persons are very bad, so you have all kinds of different illness.
And so, after three months intake, you get rid of this, let's say, this spike protein.
Do you?
I'm interested in this because I think most people watching this podcast are going to be on the same page as you.
You're preaching to the choir here, but I think lots of us have Loved ones, friends, who they dearly wish had not taken this experimental drug treatment that was forced on them to a degree, and they're anxious to know what can be done to reverse the effects.
Are you saying that Chlorine dioxide can do that.
We are now recollecting.
We have hundreds of reports from doctors.
We have hundreds of reports back calling here to the Foundation.
So, yes, I remember, for example, a case from Dr. Aparicio, a vaccine Guillain-Barré illness.
He, the only thing, he was totally paralyzed.
The only thing he can move was the eyes.
You know, he can climber with the eyes, nothing else, eyelashes.
And he was dying at this moment.
And after a few intravenous treatments, well, he got completely OK.
And three days later, he was running around until today.
So it is just one case, but we have thousands of cases actually now.
But these cases need to be sorted out because science is not just saying something.
You have to really document everything very, very well.
But we can say that based on the real clinical reports we have, definitely it works.
Yes.
I can't imagine it's very easy to get IV treatment of chlorine dioxide except in certain places like your clinic.
Or can you get them around the world?
We don't make it in the clinic.
The doctors do it in their clinics.
You can do it.
We have to understand there is a law.
It's a Helsinki protocol.
Number 37 says that every doctor can use any substance as long as there is signed an agreement with the client.
It was out of the same base like the vaccines were done.
So, when the client signed that, the doctor can give the substance, no matter what.
Because it's the patient who comes to the doctor and says, I want to be treated with this substance.
Okay, so what, you mean if, I mean, not that I'm in need of this right now, but if I were in dire need, say I had Guillain-Barre Syndrome and I was about to die, I could go to, the places I could go to in London, say, and get intravenous chlorhexidine?
Well, let's say England is a thing apart, you know, it's an island.
And as long as you have the BBC, nobody will dare.
They're not as brave as Latin American doctors.
Latin American doctors don't get the same money.
Latin American doctors are in a village or wherever the people are dying and they want to help these people no matter what.
It's a fear-driven country like Germany.
It's the same crap.
I'm German, by the way.
We live in a society where you can be controlled because you let yourself be controlled.
If you see in London the Oulettes, well, now they start to be against it.
But who let them put all that crap?
Because you let it.
In a way it's your fault, you Germans, for invading us when the Saxons came over and infecting us with your law-abiding spirit.
Maybe.
Yeah.
So, in other words, what you're saying is I'd have to fly to somewhere like Mexico or Bolivia to get my treatment.
Yeah.
Well, you can get your treatment at any doctor who agrees to give it with you.
It's not like to say if you have doctors in England that do that and you have to say, okay, I want to have a treatment and here is a clinical documents because they are published.
We have thousands of people, clinical published documents.
And the doctor can say, I will do it under the rules of the Helsinki Protocol.
And then you sign the discharge as a patient and say, I want to do it.
And when the doctor wants to do it, it's okay because it's your decision.
Every person has the freedom to use whatever the person wants.
So there's no government who can disagree with it.
It would be illegal to sell it or to make a business out of it.
It's a different story.
I see.
Okay.
Yeah.
Have you, I mean, because you're a sort of a global advocate of this stuff, have you had a lot of flack?
In the beginning.
Now I have only people that are hugging me and wherever I go.
So you haven't, but I saw your website, you've got a section called Controversies, and there's a bit where you talk about, you explain that you're not a Nazi even though you're German.
So presumably these are smears that have been levelled at you in the past?
I don't care what people think about me, actually.
No, I know.
But I'm just asking you, what has your experience been?
My experience is that any big discovery always has a big wind against it, any of them, in the world.
So that's history.
So, if you make a big discovery, you have to know that you will get a lot of wind in the beginning.
I remember, for example, the discoverers of the Helicobacter pylori bacteria in the stomach.
It was written from the Australian government that it was the worst publication of the year, and in 2004 they get the Nobel Prize for it.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm familiar with that example.
Yeah, you're right.
The medical establishment does not like paradigm shifts.
This is basically the problem.
The people that fall for the person, they're always wrong.
I'm not relevant at all.
It's a discovery that is relevant.
Maybe I could fool one or ten people, but not 5,000 doctors.
That's not possible.
Yeah, sure.
I get what you're saying.
You're pushing it an open door here.
You don't need to persuade me this stuff works.
My line of inquiry really is more, look, you've got this product which is essentially unpatentable, that the big pharma cannot make lots of money out of, which is nevertheless much more effective than any big pharma product.
Therefore, It would be a logical inference for me, given what we've seen about the behavior of Big Pharma, WHO, during the alleged pandemic.
It would make sense to me that you would have had been given a hard time and that efforts would have been made to sort of blacken your name, to blacken your research and to make it hard for you to do what you do.
Yes, of course.
Yeah, which is why you're in Latin America rather than Europe.
No, I'm living in Switzerland.
But we are in many countries all over the world.
We have people from over 60 countries now.
So just tell me some of the things that it can cure.
I mean, where is it with cancer, for example?
We have, I can tell you about reports, you know, we have here in the foundation, we are making the research and the last years there were 16 documented cases of terminal ill cancer and including pancreas cancer.
He is the professor here of the university and he came to us and said, okay, I want to be here, one of the people that we visited.
He's fine now.
For example, and many others, it is an ongoing research.
I cannot say I will cure all cancer, but it's possible.
But the data is that while standard medicine has a 3% success rate or 97% death rate, in our case we have a 60% success rate and a 40% not.
Okay.
What about other conditions?
Are there any it's particularly good for or is it just a kind of broad range?
Basically, what I say is illness is a lack of energy.
So if some substance can give you energy, it's not food, because food is one, but let's say the most important is the oxygen and the charge for the mitochondria, then you're on the winner's side.
Yes or yes.
So it's not other.
So basically, all illnesses, what do they have in common?
Metabolic acidosis, and this is a fact here.
I don't care what's the name of the illness, because I've been lately with lots of high-end university professors and so on, and when I brought down to this place and said metabolic acidosis, everybody agreed.
Everybody said there's only one illness called metabolic acidosis.
Okay, you know, exceptions like everywhere, but let's say 90%.
And so if we can cure metabolic acidosis, that's 90% of the illnesses we have, Yes, because actually the substance does not cure anything.
It's the body that cures.
The substance just gives you the energy necessary on a molecular or electromolecular level to each cell.
And it has functionality.
The more I learn about it, and it's now 17 years, the less I know.
As I have to say, I have no idea because Usually we have the typical curve of Dunham-Kruger that means in the beginning you think you know everything and you're just plain stupid.
And that's not the case.
Actually, it's a substance that even no doctor ever learned about.
So if you ask a doctor, he will say, What Google says, the first three lines, and okay, if you want to believe censorship, it's up to you.
I haven't looked at what Google says.
I don't know.
Whatever, Wikipedia, Google, and all these now, and Big Tech.
Big Tech is part of the system, so we have to understand the system is telling us we are too many people in the world, and maybe they are right.
We are too many idiots, actually.
Don't concede that!
Believe me, there are many idiots in the world, but it's up to everybody to do what he wants.
So if you want to learn something and say, okay, I take my health in my hand, that's up to you.
And if you say, okay, I will follow like a sheep, Whatever they tell me.
And I will wax myself 9, 10, 12 times.
And now later wonder why I'm ill.
So maybe they cheated you.
But there's a rule.
And this is an old one.
It is much more easy to cheat somebody than to convince somebody that he has been cheated.
And this is actually what's going on.
So there are people that are waking up and people that don't.
It's up to everybody.
It's a karma.
I'm not against anything.
I'm not even against nothing.
You know, let's say I'm not against war.
I'm for peace.
I want to have a solution.
I'm only giving a solution that everybody decides if you want it or not.
It's not a question of opinions.
It's not a question of persons.
It's irrelevant.
It's about facts.
So if you experience in your body yourself that it makes exactly what it's said to be so you will experience it.
I'm not so I don't want to convince nobody.
It's not my business.
Yeah, sure.
I think I'm slightly more forgiving than you are on the people.
I think a lot of people were misled into taking these vaccines or they were blackmailed or they were When I say a lot of stupid people, well, maybe the people in Davos should back themselves.
Well, yeah.
I'll bet none of them did.
I'll bet Klaus Schwab never took the jibby jab.
I don't know.
It's a kind of humour, you know.
Take their life by humour, because if you take life too serious, it's not a nice life.
I'll bet Albert Bourla never took his own product.
Of course.
I have many friends in the pharmaceutical industry, actually, and I have inside knowledge, so I know what's going on.
What do they say?
Even they were misled.
I know, for example, in the production plant, nobody takes the vaccine, but the managers took it, because they believed their own lies from above.
There's everything in the world.
So it's not just black and white.
This is what we have to understand.
The world is not black and white.
They're not the good and the bad ones.
No, it's a big, big, big grayscale where tons and tons of different interests and everybody has its own interests.
We have to simply understand that we don't have to follow opinions.
We have to follow facts.
Yeah, so which company are we talking about here, where your insiders operate?
Moderna, Pfizer?
Yeah, it's for Moderna.
Moderna.
And so what level of management were taking it then?
I don't want to go into this.
Yeah, but I'm interested in that.
Yes, it's okay.
It's up to you, but I'm not interested to release data from people that give me information.
Yeah, sure, sure.
So, okay, so we've dealt with cancer.
I'm trying to think of the other big ones.
I mean, We have cancer, we have arthritis, we have high blood pressure, we have asthma, we have tons of that, all of that, because all of them are basically based on the same.
What's the difference?
You have to understand we have different protocols.
For example, one is a drinking protocol, but the other one is an animal protocol.
For example, if you have a prostate problem or prostate cancer even, so you can make an enema and then the substance is more close to the problem.
And the closer it is to the problem, the better it works.
So it's a knowledge, you know, it's a knowledge how it works.
There's a book from outside for me, it's called Forbidden Health.
And it's in English, but you cannot buy it in England.
You have to go on the internet.
In Germany, I think you'll find it in Narayana.
And on other places, too.
And so actually, this is something we have to understand.
The knowledge that is brought to us, you have to look for, like the people that are looking at your program.
They are looking for knowledge.
If not, they would go on with the BBC or any other big television.
Actually, it was very funny.
I remember, for example, the BBC made a very harsh or very negative campaign, I don't know how many years, ten years ago.
And later, one of the The camera of the news came into my lab in Switzerland.
I said, oh, I'm here privately.
I said, what?
Yeah, my best friend got healed, and I want to record something, and he recorded it then by himself, for himself, and uploaded it somewhere, an interview with me, speaking about the truth, facts.
Also, we have to understand that this It is not the good and the bad.
Inside the pharmaceutical companies, you have many, many people that know it and are in favor.
I remember in the airport, I went to the airport.
I went to the airport and there was a big guy hugging me and saying, wow, great what you're doing.
It's amazing.
Thank you.
Thank you.
You helped to save a lot of lives.
And then he said, I shouldn't tell you I'm working on Pfizer, but go on with what you're doing.
You know, you have to understand this.
It's not a world of black and white.
And each time somebody tells you the world is black and white, he wants to manipulate you.
You have to understand it's everywhere.
It's in the politics because politicians You are the politician.
You want to go in and be a good guy?
They don't let you.
You are in Pfizer and want to do something?
They don't let you.
There are a few people, Washington especially, Deep State, that are controlling everything.
And this is basically coming from up.
And these few people are working based on fear.
They don't want to lose control.
So we are living in a fear-controlled world.
And a fear-controlled world can never be a world of love, what should be.
Because for me as a physicist or biophysicist, love is the same like residence.
So if we are everybody in residence, for example, you could be in love with your dog, with your daughter, with your country, with whatever you want to love, you're in residence with something.
And these people that are fear-driven in Washington or above, these people are not in resonance with nothing.
And they don't care.
And this is basically the problem.
As they are not in resonance, they listen to whatever.
People like, for example, professors of a university that says, hey, we are too many.
OK, we have to get rid of people.
And so because they get wrong information, too, and they act on wrong information and they don't act on truth, they act on an opinion.
This is basically was us.
The worst thing in our world is belief, because belief means not to know.
So if somebody believes that we are too many, Somebody made a decision to reduce population.
I don't care who, but it's just a mechanism.
We have to go deeper.
Most people are not smart enough.
They get on the surface and say, oh, the good ones, the bad ones, it's ugly.
Well, that's an old film, but it's not related to the truth.
We have to find out the truth.
And belief means not to know.
So in the moment that you want to become a knower, then you will be much more free and can see everything in the correct light.
Yeah, well, I agree with most of that.
We mentioned at the beginning, so I must bring this up because otherwise people will castigate me for having forgotten it.
You said that there were some things that it wouldn't treat or some people it wouldn't work on.
Who were they?
How does that work?
It doesn't treat stupidity.
You know, stupidity is an illness that cannot be cured in the world.
That's a flippant remark.
Does it work for everybody or not?
Well, stupidity is cured by the vaccine in a determinate way, you know, so if you want to wax yourself ten times, it's up to you.
What I mean is, what would you say to the person that I mentioned who's sceptical of chlorine dioxide, who's had sort of No, no result.
Is that because he wasn't using it properly or what?
I think it's very correct to be sceptical.
We should be sceptical with everything.
We have far too much fake news everywhere.
So read about it.
So if you read about the substance and you go to this, whatever, Odyssey, Bitchute and whatever channels that are not censored, And then you find the people that used it.
So, you will find 100,000 people that say, wow, great stuff.
Why don't you find 100,000 people that say it didn't work?
No, I should have asked him before I did this, before we had this chat.
But this is somebody who's very much where we are in terms of our understanding of the world.
He just didn't find it good for his conditions.
And I'm just wondering whether it ever has a failure rate.
Depends, because conditions are various.
You know, you have many, many different conditions in the body, and to say that something will work for everything is bogus.
It can't.
It's not possible, because there are conditions, for example genetic conditions, that you cannot change so easily.
In some cases you can, actually.
But if it's a real genetic condition from birth, you know, I can, for example, if you're Down syndrome, I cannot undo the Down syndrome, for example.
This is not possible.
But you can improve the condition of the people with Down.
We have many of these cases, too, because they have a lot of underlying conditions.
Or if you're in a wheelchair because you have a broken spine, it will not undo this, for example.
This is exactly what it is.
But most of the illnesses, let's say 90%, are based on metabolic acidosis.
Excess protons, to be correct.
We are off because we have two worlds.
Sometimes it lasts a bit longer, but it works, because it's simple logic.
We have to go in the logic way.
For example, if something is logic and say, "Oh, that's very logic," then we understand how life works.
We understand how life works.
We are off because we have two worlds.
We have the understanding brain and we have the emotional brain.
The emotional brain is great to be in love, or to make funny things, or to dance, or whatever you want.
But the emotional brain is not the right one to take decisions.
In the moment we use our emotional brain to take decisions, we normally fail.
Because emotions create war, and rationality makes peace.
I don't think it's emotions that make war.
I think it's the rulers of this world that make the war.
I don't believe that any of the wars have been organic.
They've all been controlled by elites.
Sorry, but you're wrong.
A simple divorce is a war.
Ah, well now you're redefining war so you can win the argument.
Conflict.
Obviously.
Duh.
I'm not stupid.
Now tell me, Alzheimer's.
What can you do for Alzheimer's?
Maybe I'm wrong in this case.
Sorry?
What can it do for Alzheimer's?
In 2012, I don't remember, I think it was Johnson & Johnson, they made a patent on it.
And this was the company, especially on dementia, Alzheimer, where they made the patent and never brought out the pharmaceutical product.
So they're not interested.
Right.
I mean, where are you on that?
On things like heavy metal toxicity causing Alzheimer's?
All heavy metals are basically cationic.
It means inside the body they are highly cationic, so they have a positive charge.
It means they're acidic, create acidity, and they're oxidizable.
So what means that, for example, if you have, whatever, mercury.
Mercury has an ORP of 0.84.
and chlorine dioxide of 094.
So it will not so fast, but it will slowly, three months, four months, it will degrade and oxidize this mercury that can be metabolized and eliminated in the body.
If we have another metal, whatever, sink as a metal, Any metal.
Any metal is acidic, so it can get out.
But we have some metals it can't.
For example, it can't get rid of platinum and can't get rid of gold, obviously, because they are precious metals that are not able to be oxidized.
And platinum is used in the cancer industry, cisplatin or carboplatin.
This is supposedly to heal cancer, but if you look up cisplatin correctly, you will see that cisplatin causes cancer.
For 50 years now, it's the same bogus they're doing over and over again.
Right.
Yeah, I can see that.
So, the... Sorry, what was I going to say?
Is it safe in any dose or is there a kind of maximum dose you can safely take?
I can tell you to intoxicate myself, I'm a tall person, let's say a person of 100 kilo okay, to intoxicate myself I would need in the LD50 it's called 50% of the rats die in the laboratory, I would need to take 20,400 milligrams.
It means I would have to drink more than 20 liters of pure concentrate.
This is technically not possible because you cannot drink 20 liters of water.
It's a gas.
A gas has a very, very low weight.
It means like the bubbles in the water with gas, you know, how much weight is the weight of the bubble.
And so how much is a toxicity to be exact?
It's 292 milligrams per kilo.
So it's like caffeine.
It's like you can get poisoned by coffee.
Theoretical, yes.
Practical, no.
And it's a self-warning substance.
It means if you take it in a too concentrated way, you cannot even get one slug down the throat.
There's no way.
Yeah, the reason I was asking that it wasn't so much a is it safe question.
It was more say you had a really acute problem say say you had somebody with really bad dementia would having a massive dose work more quickly than having a gradual dose.
You have to understand it works different.
This is what I mean.
It's not the substance that many doctors do it actually wrong because they don't understand.
I will answer with a question.
Can you take in the mornings one big breath for all the day?
I've not tried that.
You cannot take in the morning one breath for the whole day.
It's not technically possible.
Even if you fill your lungs.
So we have to understand it works on the same level.
It's like oxygen.
You have to breathe all the day.
So you take it in small steps.
More is not better.
More continuous.
That's the right way.
Because we speak about charges.
It's not too high or too low.
It's like charging your telephone.
You have to charge it with the right voltage.
If you have too high a voltage, it gets burned.
If it's too low, it doesn't charge.
Okay, and this is the question that I've been dying to ask you, because it's the thing that's always put me off taking this stuff.
And it's the hassle of it.
Because I've read, and you can correct me here, I've read that ideally, you should be making up every treatment per hour.
It's not so good putting it in one bottle and then glugging it at intervals through the day.
I do it, and millions of people.
So it works.
Protocol C is you put it in the bottle.
In the morning, you have a little bit more.
In the evening, maybe a little bit less.
But as the body still has some residues over the takeover, we have measurements, and it works perfect.
Okay, so just take me through it then.
At the start of each day, what do you do to make your mix up?
You have a bottle of water, one litre, with 10 millilitres of CDS 3000, or 0.3%, 3000 ppm, parts per million, to put it in.
And each hour you drink a little bit and that's it.
Is that your particular product, the CDS one?
Well, I invented it at this stage, yes.
Yeah, okay.
And so what's the difference between your product and say, I mean, I got this stuff before I'd even heard of you.
I got two, a bottle of something and a bottle of something else and you mix them up.
This is how you make it.
For example, if you want to make the CDS, you have a glass, a jar of water and you put 250 water, you mix these two, put them in, close the tap and the next day you take the chemical out and you just Use the water that is now yellow as described in my book.
In my book you have it and on my website you have links to how to make it and it's all there for free.
What I'm asking is, apart from the lack of inconvenience, what other things has your particular product got going for it?
Well, it's not a product.
It's a substance, actually.
So, once you make it, you put it in a brown glass from pharmacy, well-tight, closed, because it's a gas.
It's like mineral water gas.
If you leave it open, it goes out.
And it's brown because it's sensitive to sunlight.
You should not put it in the sunlight.
Ultraviolet light makes a reaction.
So, it converts into water.
So, this is basically what it is.
Is that your daughter wanting your credit card?
No, no.
I have to sign books.
That's fine.
I like the real life intruding.
It's good.
It creates a relaxed vibe.
So, you can reassure me that if and when I start taking this stuff, By using the litre bottle method and drinking at intervals through the day, I'm not kind of selling myself short and undermining the treatment.
I can tell you that in the clinical trials with over 3,000 people that are published, we had no negative adverse effects at all.
We had little side effects in some people that feel a little bit more tired or somebody had a headache, especially the people that take a lot of drugs.
Everybody's different.
And this was in more than 3,000 people, only a 6%.
Right.
Okay.
Now, I mean, I'm not, so I'm reassured that there are no side effects.
What I mean is the difference between mixing each dose every hour and mixing it for the whole day.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
This is the old MMS, the mixing stuff.
This can create your dogs, it creates your quite, the stomach quite upset.
It's, it's this discontinue.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
And how soon do you feel the benefits?
The gas is absorbed in around 7 to 15 minutes, and you feel it quite fast, depending on what you want to treat.
Great.
No, you feel just fine.
You have more energy.
It's an increase of oxygen in the body.
Similar to oxygenative treatment.
If, for example, a hyperbaric chamber increases your oxygen, too, and you feel much better, too.
In me, relatively fast.
So, depending on what you have, it would be not correct if I say, no, you will, but it's not.
I'm a scientist, so I try to be very exact on the spot, as much as I can, at least.
Yeah, I mean I've suffered from what may or may not be Lyme disease.
I'm not sure about the terms anymore, but occasionally I get bouts of sort of where I've bone-tired exhaustion and I get brain fog and I'm always yearning in those periods for something that could kind of lift me out of that more quickly.
The first thing you will notice is that the brain fog will be gone.
And Borrelia burgdorferi, that's the underlying bacteria that is from the same family like syphilis, in that case, is trying to invade your body.
Or they've invaded it already, I don't know.
So we have many, many cases where it's written off recovery of Lyme disease.
We combine it together with a plasmatron.
This is a kind of rife machine that I programmed and it works perfectly.
Yeah, I've heard that rice machines are very effective as well.
Yeah.
So, is there anything else I need to know about it?
We seem to have sort of covered the ground fairly thoroughly.
Yes, I would say read about it.
You know, many people say, no, I don't want to read, I've no time.
Well, then I don't have time for you either.
You know, so it is not the way.
We are here in the world and the sense of life You have to say, why are we here?
Basically, we are here to learn.
If you don't want to learn, you can go.
It's learn life.
I'm not speaking about school.
I'm speaking about life, the real deepness of life, what are we doing and why.
So basically, for me, I'm now 63 years old.
It's not about money.
It's about leaving a legacy for our children or grandchildren.
This is basically what motivates me and this is why Basically, I'm 17 years against wind or whatever people want to say, and I'm just telling the truth all the time, you know?
Yeah, it does sound almost too good to be true.
Why do you think it's... why isn't everyone taking it right now?
We have to understand our world.
Our world is dominated by fear.
And by this fear, people are coming from Going through Washington and that goes much deeper and so on.
And these people are selling their fear because they are fear-driven too.
As long as the world is not back to resonance, that you resonate and say, I care for somebody else.
I don't know him, but I care.
The world will not be better.
What's now going on in our world from the health, from Ukraine, from Israel, from whatever place we look at.
It's not nice.
It's not nice.
It's not the way we should live.
But it's not about speaking.
It's about doing something.
And I like to give solutions.
So I give the solution to the people to learn it.
It's a question of time.
Where can people find you?
Well, do you want to tell me about your books and your website?
Yeah, AndreasKalkar.com.
We will soon have a new website.
We are now preparing because it has much more data, even more scientific data, because we have more and more doctors who are interested in the subject.
Because what they see, even in Germany and so on, people are coming to their clinics and say, hey, doctor, I'm fine.
What?
It's not possible.
Yes, I am.
And the doctor checked and said, what did you take?
Well, this stuff.
And the doctors in the beginning say, not possible, not possible.
But if you have 10 patients coming, you get all curious.
Most of the time.
And then you start to learn about that.
And so my job is to show to all the doctors and medical professionals how this substance works and give the responses, the clinically correct and academically correct responses to how it works.
While I understand very well that if you hear from it for the first time, you wouldn't say, it's not possible, I can't believe that.
But back to this, it's a belief system.
And once you know about the substance, well, I don't know nobody who has knowing about the substance, deep knowledge, and has used it extensively that is speaking bad.
No one.
Well, that's great.
I do like a miracle cure and I like something that's going to shortcut my recovery without sort of having to do anything too grueling, let's say.
You know, I mean, it's a lot easier than fasting or any of that stuff.
Well, you have to understand that every illness basically has a healing crisis.
So, for example, it might the first four or five days feel tired or have some headaches because there are lots of dead bacteria.
Like a Herx reaction?
A Herx reaction.
This is possible.
Yes, we have it in 6% of people.
Yeah, well, I can live with that.
I'm going to try it.
I'm definitely going to try it.
Well, thank you, Dr. Kalka.
I hope I didn't give you too easy a ride.
You're probably used to people giving you a hard time.
But we're on the same page, as I say.
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Thank you again, Dr. Kalka.
It's great to have people like you who are bringing it to the people, you know, it's it's people like you who make the change to the world.
I just I'm the first step but this people like you James that are bringing it out to the public that are listening to it because it's if the world will be better.
It's thanks to individuals that are putting their effort like you and making a change.
Thank you.
Oh, well, thank you.
Yeah, I'm sure I'm sure lots of people are gonna be taking this stuff having listened to this podcast.
