Jan. 8, 2026 - The Truth Central - Dr. Jerome Corsi
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The Symbols That Shape Power
In Part 7 of the Corsi Nation series on Silicon Valley’s hidden power culture, Cregg Lund joins Dr. Jerome Corsi to examine a lesser-known ideological influence explored in Lund’s novel Silicon Satan: the tech elite’s fascination with ancient Hawaiian tribal mysticism.Lund explains how his fictionalized narrative draws on historical sources and cultural themes to explore secret belief systems, ritual symbolism, and identity movements he argues are repackaged for modern power networks. The discussion focuses on how selective academic framing and modern “rebranding” can obscure controversial elements of history—including ritual practices that are rarely discussed in contemporary cultural analysis.🔎 What This Episode CoversWhy certain ancient belief systems attract modern power elitesHow ritual symbolism is adapted for contemporary influence cultureThe role of academia and media in reframing uncomfortable historyHow ideology, myth, and power intersect inside tech cultureWhy Silicon Satan uses fiction to surface difficult questionsThis episode continues Corsi Nation’s examination of how belief systems shape institutions, and why understanding cultural mythology matters when analyzing modern centers of power.👉 Learn more about Silicon Satan and where to purchase:https://www.siliconsatan.comBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/corsi-nation--5810661/support.
This is Jerome Coursey, and we have with us again today Craig Lund.
I'm very pleased about it.
We're going through his book, Silicon Satan.
It's a novel.
Craig, how are you?
Good.
Good.
Thank you.
And this book is, I think, extremely important.
We are also featuring Craig on the homepage of Coursination.com.
So if you'll scroll down, you'll see Craig will show you here.
Scroll down on the page.
Chris will show you here.
And you scroll down, you'll see a section devoted to Craig Lund.
And that's where, in fact, if you go into that section, you can see sections from his new novel that's in progress, as well as videos he's put together of illustrating various of the scenes in the books.
The videos are really good.
I'm very pleased with how they've come out.
And they give you a whole new dimension of appreciating how Craig is visualizing the novel as he's writing it.
So I'm very pleased with how this is developing.
And I think, Craig, it may take a little bit of time, but I think you'll be developing a following.
And I think it's already started to happen.
You know, if you put your email address on here, if we get that put in here, you can get it to Chris.
I'll add it.
People can start corresponding with you.
Yeah, the best way is just info at silicon satan.com.
Okay, well, we'll add that here.
If you want to correspond with Craig Lund, you can do it at info at silicon satan.com.
I didn't realize how much time I would.
Oh, sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you.
No, that's right.
I didn't realize how much time I'd be spending answering these emails.
I get a lot of these emails coming through.
Well, that's good.
That's how you build a fan base.
And of course, you know how to database them and to get a list and do all of that.
Those are your fans.
And they will be, if they read one of your books, they're going to read all of them.
So you're building a career here.
Silicon Satan, I think, is a very important book.
It details Craig's experience.
Craig was a very accomplished programmer, a technical guy out in Silicon Valley and had a good career going.
He was initiated into the satanic sects that really rule Silicon Valley.
They also rule Hollywood.
They rule the elite political circles in New York and around the world, Washington, D.C.
And what Craig's book is doing, his novels and his writing are doing, is bringing to light the really, you know, the demonic nature of a lot of these worlds that are just simply unaccessible.
Most people think, how could this be?
I mean, the first reaction is this is too outlandish.
This couldn't be happening, but it is happening, right, Craig?
It is happening.
It's interesting because we started working on this book years ago.
And it's very interesting how the rest of the world is finally caught up to what we were talking about all those years ago and finally put out.
I was kind of wondering if people would be interested, but the timing is just, you know, I'm amazed at how much has happened in the last five years.
Well, especially right now, I mean, you've got the P. Diddy trial going on.
We're finding out new revelations about the Epstein tapes and the Epstein materials.
And I think virtually everything that we're finding out is exactly what you predicted would be the case.
Yeah, pretty much, unfortunately.
I mean, the whole world knows what adrenochrome is now.
I've known about it for a long time, and I didn't think anybody would ever know.
I didn't think the world would know about it, but, you know, it's all over the place.
Well, this is the kind of...
You can see the effects on certain people as well.
You know when they, when they get hooked on it and then they get pulled off of it like uh, Justin Bieber, for example, is just he's going through withdrawals you can, you can see it.
You can see him aging.
Yeah, I mean it's.
It's a hormone that's produced when babies or infants are caused to feel excessive fear and it's mined out of their systems.
Yeah, they kill them first and then get the adrenal chrome.
But how is it done?
Uh well, you know it's it's, they have it down to a science.
It's very, it's all biology.
They know how to raise certain levels of certain hormones in, in children especially and uh, how to harvest the, the drug they want you, you can, you can drink it directly, I guess.
Um, you know drinking the blood directly.
Uh, I think you know a lot of people do that.
But um, I think uh, most of the people and you see in Hollywood that are just never aging, they're you know it's, they're getting a refined version of it.
You know the, the rituals is fun, but they need that to keep going as well, and they keep, they get it.
Do they kill the children to mine it.
Um, I suppose yeah yeah, i've never been involved in that process, but yeah, I suppose that if they, you know they do yeah ultimately, you know, i'm not really sure how it works this it's coming out more and more, more and more people are doing a lot of research on.
You know the exact science and um, you know there's everything from from kids in cages.
You know they've never seen the light.
Uh, I don't have any proof of that, but it wouldn't surprise me.
I mean to just um synthet uh, trying to synthesize it um, but I don't think that's possible.
Well the, the nature, the Silicon Valley, nature the, I mean, the whole thing is so dark and and demonic uh, that you can almost imagine anything happening.
But you, what you experienced was that um you if, if you're going to get to the higher levels in Silicon Valley, to the, where you know the god levels, where you're making on huge amounts of money and have all kinds of power, you're only going to do that through joining the Satanic rituals and then there's no escape.
It's even beyond that.
The people that go that level they're they're, they want more than just money and power.
They think they're gonna, once they get there, they're gonna live forever and and be gods and that's their ultimate goal is.
Their ultimate goal isn't to just get rich.
There's a lot of different ways to do that.
Their ultimate goal is to get rich and then use that money to um, live forever.
You know, outdo god, they truly do think they become transhuman.
They do, they really do they really, they really believe this?
This is, this is.
You know it.
You have to get, like you were just saying.
You know, you have to have an imagination to even understand what what they do daily.
You know it's, it's uh, it's a whole different world.
It's a whole different.
It's a whole different world, a whole different species almost yeah, and you managed to escape from it, of course, at great cost.
I mean, they just about ruined you and you know the psychological damage is probably permanent.
Yeah, being there There is what ruined me.
Getting out is what saved me.
You know, getting out of that was what saved me.
And, you know, talking to some of these people that have been contacting me, I've never really come out and said it, but I really didn't have to go through a lot of the rituals.
And the reason why I've never said it is because I don't want people to think that I'm just in denial.
But my path was a little bit different just because I wasn't really trying to get to that point.
I had, you know, I was an engineer and I wanted to build things.
I was a really good software engineer.
I did a lot of really good systems, really good designs.
I was a visionary in technology, like technology.
So there's a lot of the rituals I part, you know, I was an observer to a lot of them, but I've never participated in all that many, which is why I kind of stayed at the engineering level.
I never really got into the management.
And then when they started trying to push me into that and trying to get me to do these rituals, that's when I started panicking and needed to get out because there was no other way.
Up until that point, I was pretty naive.
I thought, okay, this stuff is going on, but it's just a group of weirdos.
And then I realized, no, this is their life.
This is what they really believe.
Not only do they believe it, but they live it.
And they've been living it for a long, long time, you know, this group of people.
And I'm about to get stuck in it.
I got to get out of here.
So I did.
Right.
I'm sure you've felt panicked over the idea that you had to get out.
Yeah.
Okay.
I want to focus.
There's part of the novel that really starts focusing on Hawaii.
And it has some really unusual significance.
And so where in the book does it come up?
You begin to discuss it and then you focus a whole section on Hawaii.
Tell me in the novel how it fits together.
Well, I start with a story about some ancient, an ancient couple.
And it's sort of a typical story.
I learned about a lot of this when I was, I lived in Hawaii for a couple of years when I was working on the Keck Telescope.
And then I went back a lot.
You know, we were going back and forth a lot.
But I start off with a story.
It's a typical story of a couple.
And I kind of tried to explain that in ancient Hawaiian culture, there were two completely different classes, the Aliis and then the commoners, the call now.
Anyway, and the Ali, I mean, okay, so this island is out in the middle of nowhere.
And these weren't fishermen and they weren't farmers.
There was no pigs or lobsters or quail on the island at that time.
That came later after Cook discovered, and Europeans brought all that stuff in.
So what were they eating?
And these guys were, you know, the Li'is were someone called Hawaii time, which is basically means laziness, you know, laid back, sit on the beach, you know, and be fat and lazy.
And I don't mean to disrespect the Hawaiian people, but this is part of their culture, as far as I learned.
Maybe I'm wrong, but it's hard to deny.
I mean, you know, Captain Cook was eaten on the beach at Abe.
Anyway, so the Aliis would use the commoners for slave labor and for food.
And they were very successful.
They were a very successful cannibalistic society.
Most cannibalistic societies, sorry, but there's a big storm here.
I'm getting a lot of status.
Are you guys getting it?
No, it's okay.
We're hearing you fine.
Okay.
So the Hawaiians were very, very successful cannibalistic society, mostly by necessity.
They had to make it work out there because they were out there in the middle of nowhere alone.
And if you look through history, if you do a little bit of study, you'll find that most cannibalistic societies sort of implode.
They start going crazy.
And part of the problem is that it gets too, they don't regulate well enough.
And the Hawaiians did a really good job of regulating their cannibalism, you know, their ways and means of cannibalism, their rituals.
And I think that the reason, there's a couple of reasons why I think the elites are very interested in Hawaii.
One is because they like the seclusion.
But two, I think they're drawn to all the evil and leftover unclean spirits that are still there.
It gives them power.
So there was a ritual that I got invited to out there.
And looking back, I understand now why they like having those blood rituals out there.
It's because there's a long history of them.
out there.
They have everything they, spiritually speaking, they have everything they need right there.
I mean, it's hard to do that same kind of thing in, say, Flagstaff, Arizona, or even Las Vegas.
There's no history there.
There's no depth there just to what they're doing.
So that's where Hawaii plays.
And you look at these Maui fires and all that.
And it appears to me that they're cleansing the islands.
A lot of them, I know like Larry Ellison, the guy you've been seeing talking about the surveillance state, he owns the entire island of Lanai.
Actually, he owns the company that owns it.
It's a company called CTS or something like that.
The only thing they don't own are the municipal, the little spot where all the municipal buildings are.
But who gets to own a whole, everybody wants to own an island, but who gets to own a whole Hawaiian island, right?
And you hear about Zuckerberg and everybody else are building bunkers out there.
It's a perfect spot because most of the bunkers are already built.
There's lava tubes, lava tubes everywhere.
We did a lot of lava tube exploration when I was there.
A lot of lava tubes are used as temples and places of refuge.
And there's a lot of history in those as well.
So when you go down in there, you can just feel, you can feel the thickness of the evil over the years that took place in there.
Not everybody can, but a lot of people, except myself, when you walk in, you know there's something bad happened here.
go ahead sorry you you start writing about a you you go back in history and part of the novel and reimagine you know the an earlier period of time when before going back i guess hundreds of years But you have a scene with this woman who has a baby.
You're talking about the two ancient Hawaiians?
Yes.
Yeah.
And the baby gets used in a ritual.
And they, you know, her name is Hunani, I guess.
Is that how you say it?
Hunani.
And this woman clearly loves her baby.
And then they gather in a beach area and they're going to have a ritual.
And suddenly, the mother, Nikali, begins to freeze in fear.
They've not heard this particular call on the side of the island in a long time.
It's a dreaded all-hands call.
It means the subjects of the house of Kiokua, including especially young mothers and infants, are to assemble at the temple.
And why are they calling us?
Kali asks with such trepidation.
So why are they calling her?
So a lot of these stories I got from, I used to, when I lived in Hawaii, I would hang out with the older folks, the older Hawaiians.
I mean, they were very old when I was there.
They're long gone now, of course.
I went back not too long ago.
The whole culture is different over there now.
It's become a lot different.
But anyway, I got a lot of these stories from those people.
And that kind of ritual that I'm writing about was pretty common.
So, and again, I don't want to disrespect the Hawaiians.
This is the stories that were passed to me from their elders.
But it was the reason why they have these things called the baby luau.
It's a one-year celebration, and that's when you actually name your baby.
And the reason why they will tell you it's because babies had a high death rate.
And you didn't want to name your baby until you were sure it's going to survive.
And that's true, but the death rate was because these babies were being eaten, not because they were dying of disease or anything like that.
I mean, they would, of course, but you didn't want to name your baby.
You weren't even allowed to, actually, because they may get chosen.
And if the baby's got a name and the village loves it and it gets chosen, you're supposed to be proud of that fact.
So you don't name your baby.
You take care of it and everything, but you don't really attach bond with it until you pass that one year when it's out of danger.
Of course, it's not always out of danger, but at least it's not going to be in one of the dreaded baby rituals.
So the baby ritual begins, and the baby is ultimately taken, right?
And she's taken from her and killed in this blood ritual in which the baby is sacrificed and they eat the baby, correct?
Correct.
They cook the baby and eat the baby.
And that's what these elites are doing today.
They've taken that ritual and ran with it.
That's why, you know, it's not anything new.
People think this is new.
It's not.
This has been going on for a long time.
What's the fascination with eating babies?
Well, I think because, first of all, it's innocence.
It's evil.
It's evil.
It's God's most precious being.
Right.
So you're gumming God.
And there's that adrenochrome aspect.
Even though they probably didn't, well, I'm sure they didn't understand the biology back then.
They knew that when you do these things to this creature, you can get these certain effects out of it.
And the effects are narcotic, sort of.
Right.
And they use that to talk to their demons.
And they're just being manipulated by the demonic world, by the unclean spirits.
Same ones that Jesus was fighting in the cemeteries are still here.
Yes, I mean, it's a very tough part of the book to read because, again, to talk about too.
I'm sure it is.
Well, you know, you've got some of the white sailors who are here, and they kill them, but they don't eat them.
They bury them.
Why is that?
That particular story is an interesting story.
It was father-son captains.
The father had the big ship, and the son had the small companion ship.
And they got, they were, this was back in the 1700s, and they were going back and forth to Hawaii from the mainland.
And they got separated.
And the father's ship went over to Maui, and the son's ship ended up on the coast of the big island on the west coast of the big island where King Kamehameha lived.
And it was a big fight.
There was a lot of in-wars going on between the islands at that time.
And Kamehameha was king of the big island.
And so he commandeered that boat.
And he kept the said, he killed the sailors, but he ritualized them because he wanted that boat and the power, you know, the power that came with it.
He kept two of the sailors.
I can't remember those names.
One of the sailors ended up being a governor later on out there.
But he kept two of them to run the ship.
And he basically won the arms race.
So he took over all the islands just using just that one ship.
I mean, he had because he had cannon, so he could just pull into a village and start blasting away, and they would surrender.
But they didn't rip.
I actually was in that cave.
I found that.
Some friends of mine, we went searching for that.
We found it.
It's pretty interesting.
It's very interesting to see it.
But there was a someone had put a baby in.
There was a baby bones in there.
Not too far away is another cave that's just full of bones, full of human bones.
And we got caught trying to get into that one.
Well, and also the mother eventually is raped and killed.
Her head, they bash in her head.
So you've got a blood ritual in which King Cam, that's the king, devours a piglet, which looks like a human infant instead of the actual human baby.
But so in other words, this is, I guess, where some of the piglet roasting occurs.
I guess it's very similar to baby roasting.
Yeah, so the story, the story I heard from these elders was that the missionaries brought in the kalua, you know, the piglets to replace the human babies to get them to stop doing that.
Right.
A human piglet looks kind of like a baby.
You know, they kind of look kind of similar, pink and you know, cute.
So yeah, they got them to do that's where Kalua pig comes from.
You know, again, I really like the Hawaiian culture.
I like the Hawaiian people.
Well, it's a dark aspect of the Hawaiian culture, but again, it is the it is an evil that is now carried over into the current Satanism that dominates the, you know, the P. Diddy class and the this whole group of people.
I guess the two common themes to all of this are certainly you know rampant sex, but a lot of pedophilia and a fascination with death and killing babies and eating babies.
And life has no particular meaning to these people.
I mean, it's it's a very um well their lives do.
Their lives do, but they but everybody else is expendable and they feel like they have complete license to cause them fear and then to kill them and eat them.
It's almost like they want to gain their energy by eating them.
Yeah.
And something that's always kind of perplexed me is these Hawaiians.
Well, first of all, how did they get there?
There's all kinds of theories how they got there, but how did they bring these rituals over?
Because these are not, these are not, these rituals didn't originate with the Hawaiians.
The Hawaiians adopted them from somewhere else.
Because they've been, like I said, they've been doing this, you know, since Nimrod's day.
So how do they get these rituals?
How did they figure this out?
Well, I think they were taught it.
And so who taught the question is who taught them when?
And do you have an answer for that?
No, I've never been able to.
There's a lot of people that do that kind of research.
And there's a lot of, there's, there's different theories.
I'll let them figure that one out.
But it is interesting.
Right.
The Hawaiians didn't start using baby pigs in their luaus until after the Europeans introduced swine to the islands in the late 1800s.
Right.
And so the luaus go back thousands of years.
So you say the luaus go back to ancient times in Hawaiian history.
They were important rituals, but they didn't use pigs.
The Christian missionaries did two things when they arrived in the 1800s.
They planted 30 mesquite trees all over the island to force the Hawaiians to wear shoes.
And they established maritime laws, which among other things outlawed cannibalism.
Okay, so the Kahlua pig wasn't a pig.
It was really a human baby to start with.
Right.
Right.
Okay.
So again, that's another just dark aspect of this that is a backdrop of the story.
There's a lot of evil always looming in the background of the story.
You know, you can see the way the characters are acting has a deeper context that is just dark and evil.
So I mean, if you knew that all this stuff was taking place on a certain piece of property, would you actually want to buy that property?
Would you want to even be anywhere near it?
Every time these elites find something like this, they gobble it up.
They want it.
That's why they like Hawaii.
Like I said, there's two reasons.
One is they like the unclean spirits and they like the isolation.
Well, and they kind of both go together.
You know, it's isolated.
Of course, until recently, it was hard to reach.
It takes a lot of time to get there.
And it's not easy to reach Hawaii out in the middle of the Pacific.
And the distances in the Pacific are twice the distances in the Atlantic.
And the Pacific is twice as big as the Atlantic.
It's a huge ocean.
And people don't realize it who haven't crossed it.
Of course, in an airplane, you can do it in a matter of 17 hours from New York.
You could be in Alaska.
I mean, in Seattle, you can get there.
Australia.
Yeah.
Or Hawaii.
Yeah, from Seattle, you can get there in five hours.
Five hours, yeah.
It takes about, I think it was 13 or 14 hours from New York.
Because it depends, but I think it's a long flight.
I've taken it many times.
It's a long flight.
It is a long flight, yeah.
Yeah.
Okay, so, you know, the nature of all of this is intertwined with the sex, which goes, you know, there's constantly kind of casual sex among all the people.
But the characters just seem to relate to each other.
You know, right after you do the Hawaiian scene, you've got a scene with Raj and I guess it's Sloan.
And, you know, they're just basically having sex.
But the point is, graphic aspects of it.
So he's having sex with someone else, another woman.
He's thinking about Sloan at the same time, which is his girlfriend.
And Raj becomes obsessed with Sloan throughout this from the time that their children have their very first sexual experience when they're both quite young.
So this is, you know, again, the sex theme runs through it as just normal.
I mean, it's just every day.
Right.
So all the taboos, all the things you're not supposed to do are broken.
So you start with, you know, breaking sex taboos and then you get into, you know, maybe homicide or, you know, it's just, it's a, it's a progression.
You know, it's meant to break down all of your moral, you know, get rid of your moral compass.
That's the whole design.
So, you know, that's why it's easy to start with sex, start doing crazy sex stuff.
And, you know, it's fun.
It feels good.
It's conquering.
You know, there's a lot of drugs, a lot of sex and drugs.
These three guys that were on the train recently with cocaine doesn't surprise me at all.
It was, I didn't write too much about the cocaine, but cocaine was everywhere.
We used a lot of cocaine.
You talk about the Macron and the incident in the train with the cocaine.
That clearly, surely, looked like cocaine.
The way he snatched it up looked like he was trying to, you know, make sure nobody saw it.
Of course, it was a plain sight.
Yeah, that's fine.
I don't know if it's cocaine or not.
I mean, they look really good spoon, but I can't imagine those guys carrying it in a baggie, but why not?
Yeah, why not?
Nonetheless, it's you know, it was cocaine.
Cocaine was pretty, pretty common.
It was, you know, a lot of these orgies start with ecstasy, Molly.
And then to keep the ecstasy going, you do cocaine.
And then when you're done, you want to go home, you take ballium, go to bed.
Okay.
So I guess he Raj is having sex, I think, in this scene with this is right after with Meryl's there.
And I guess it's what Clara is this one.
And we say, you know, the mother with a camera, he has a camera, pushes, you know, puts her camera down and lays him back on top on his back Raj and crawls on top of him.
And then the part of it that seemed to me, you know, she sounds horny right now, Raj, the qualudes are finally kicking in.
Oh, you're talking about the scene on top of the barn roof when they're yes, the top of the roof.
Yeah, then she pulls a vial of cocaine from her front pocket, takes a small Coke spoon that is hung on a chain around her neck, and digs a few snots, sorts, snorts of Coke for them.
When Stephanie holds the spoon to the nose, it makes her breast look even smaller.
And he's comparing her breast to Sloan's breast.
I mean, the whole thing is you just get lost in this.
And it's not, you know, it's not written to be pornographic.
It's written to be like the drugs and the whole experience, the evil, all mixed together in this bizarre combination and formulation, which has a world in which there's just no good at all.
I mean, it's all just power, enjoyment, bizarre.
That's kind of why I had to throw in when I was writing the book.
I was like, well, where do I begin?
Where does this story begin?
And I kept going further and further back because it really did start, you know, with the horse ranch.
You know, everything was if I go back, if things had gone different at the horse ranch, then I never would have got that far.
So I had to start there.
And then I had to bring in the outlaw bikers because that was a big influence.
And it kind of just shows the pattern that's that is really easy to fall into.
It's not like I was trying to make it happen.
And I'm not the only one.
There's a lot of guys, a lot of men and women like me that were going through this.
And, you know, a lot of them belled early, you know, before they, you know, one thing when you know, for an orgy will scare a lot of people away.
Just one org, and that's, you know, they're gone.
You get through your first orgy.
It's kind of weird talking like this, but you get your first orgy and you kind of feel better about yourself.
And then you move to the second one.
And then you do the next thing and the next thing and the next thing.
Well, you get desensitized.
Yeah.
So what made it easy for me is because all this kind of was started, you know, way real early in my life, real, you know, real early in the California at a horse ranch in the 60s and 70s.
And there was drugs and a lot of girls around, a lot of women around, a lot of you know, it was actually fun.
You know, the horse days and the Harley days were fun and Silicon Valley was fun.
But at the same time, there was this constant, you know, I don't know, hook.
Well, you're right.
You write here, this on page 285, say, growing up on a ranch meant learning how to pound a nail in straight before learning how to ride a bicycle.
Good, but hard work was easy to come by for Raj.
And life in a small California coastal college town had potential for a bright future.
Raj kept looking forward.
Horses and Harleys were behind him.
And you landed your first good job and then you moved, you know, you were mending fences, et cetera.
And you're getting into this new setting in Silicon Valley and realizing that it's a different world and that you're putting behind the ranch, but the ranch environment and all the casual sex and all the easiness of the life.
I mean, California is a beautiful place.
It's very warm and comfortable.
It's certainly not like living in New Jersey or Wisconsin or Minnesota.
You know, it's an easy life.
But, you know, you had carpentry skills.
You learned how to run, to work on a ranch.
You were around horses.
So you knew that life very well.
And Tennessee Walkers are beautiful to horses and probably one of the more elegant horses in terms of how to ride them.
They don't bounce up and down as much.
They're very gentlemanly horses.
So, you know, the switch from that life into Silicon Valley had to be jarring.
But the commonalities between the two, especially the sex, the easy life, the kind of going with it that happens, one thing leads to another.
Pretty soon, I mean, it's like Raj seemed to have sex with all the women on the ranch, and that never quit.
But none of the relationships were ever developed very deep.
They're all very superficial in many ways, except for maybe the relationship with Sloan, which had a very kind of almost like a pathological, psychological addiction to one another.
Yeah, it was a twisted, you know, somebody should have intervened.
Some adults should have intervened real early and split them up, set them straight.
Yeah, well, they were encouraged, actually.
And also the transition from horses to Silicon Valley.
Remember, Silicon Valley back then was a bunch of good old boy engineers.
So the transition wasn't those type of engineers.
If you think way back, you know, the Heathkit kind of guys, you know, with slide rolls in their pocket, they weren't sophisticated at all.
They, you know, they wore short sleeves and bow ties.
And it was when the business people came in and took over when everything changed.
Yeah, that's it.
It became the power group that took over.
Yeah.
I mean, it's like, okay, so we're reading about Jeffrey Epstein and, you know, now more is coming out about Epstein.
Clear that he was really intelligence operative and he was bringing all these people into a compromising situation with sex with underaged minors and videoed and they were then used for blackmail, powerful people.
And I'm sure P. Diddy was somewhat of the same thing, but it created a whole culture.
And Jimmy Seville over in the UK, and I forget there was another guy, same thing in Australia.
I can't remember that guy's name.
The guy that did all the Save the Children ads and turned out to be a sex trafficker.
Pedophile.
Yeah.
Children's Porn and all the rest of it.
I mean, this fascination with children is bizarre, but it is one of the common themes, that.
And then the drugs and the use of drugs uh, and the absolutely no value of god at all.
I mean, Satan is real, it's a real entity to these people and it, and a conscious kind of presence, I mean they almost think that they can, you know, build a structure somehow or other, get up, invade Heaven and kill god is one of the great.
I mean, and that's serious, I mean that's just not nonsense.
They do that build a Tower Of Babel.
Eventually we'll reach Heaven and we'll invade Heaven and we'll kill god.
They believe it too.
They don't believe it.
They believe it, but they're working on it.
Yeah, they're working on it.
They're still working on it right yeah, yeah.
And then you know, the result of all this is that um, so you see background with drugs and you see uh Zelinsky, who was, you know, known to do a lot of cocaine, and uh, and then these people cause wars, they cause um whole horrible destruction, they cause economic, uh disarray, they destroy the middle class and and the godless nature of the whole thing is dark.
I mean, the whole thing is just dark.
It's dark to us, to them, it's, what is it exciting?
What is it what draws it?
Is it just a sense of it's?
To them it's, it's uh, it's escape, it's an escape plan.
They got to get off this prison planet.
You know, they gotta, they have to break, they have to, they have to um bring uh, get the right guy back in the throne room.
You know their guy, Hasitan.
They don't.
They don't call him Satan, they don't call him, they call him Hasiton.
Why do they do that?
I don't know.
I think it's.
I don't know, I think it's a Hebrew.
It's like ha, something like ha ha, Mashiach Haceton, I don't know Asetan.
Yeah, it's like ha apostrophe.
Yeah, you do that.
That's in the book.
You do that.
We see.
I see that it took me a while to kind of catch on to that, but I think it's their way.
I think it's their way of just sort of um distancing themselves or separating themselves from the satanists and the and the.
You know the, the Luciferians, and I mean, even though they use a lot of that magic, they really despise people like Oleister Crowley because he made it look bad as far as they're concerned.
You know he, you know we, we joke around about these guys, but we're talking about the most powerful, rich people on the planet and a lot of them.
You don't even know who they are.
You've never even heard of them.
Yeah, the people you hear about are usually puppets or they are trying to be heroes.
You know they're either.
They're either being used or they're they're trying to infiltrate.
You know I I tend to put Trump kind of in that infiltrate um, because he's surrounded by these people and I know he knows who they are.
I know he knows about it.
I don't think he's one of them.
He could be, I mean, they are clever, but I get the feeling that him and a couple others are.
They're they're really making an effort to infiltrate, but they're not gonna.
They're not gonna succeed.
I mean, I hate to say it, but they're not going to.
It's too much, there's too much for them to get up against.
You know no, they're not going to succeed.
I mean it's not, you know it's an.
In the end, God always wins.
I mean this.
They're just so deep into this.
Um, so the first book really, I think uh, you know it's subtitled, software engineers, narrow escape from the Luciferians elite, Satanic control over Silicon Valley, and that could easily be written over Hollywood or over Washington or any of the capitals of the world where these power circles are, and um the globalists, and um they, the.
The novel uh, it takes you through.
It's really a novel of awakening, in that raj, through it all begins to see not so much the evil, both the, how banal it is, I mean how vacuous it really is, you know, because it's just repeat sex, repeat drugs, repeat rituals, blood rituals.
I mean it's just a entrapment in evil that languishes about in all this evil and doesn't really escape.
It mires in it, and so the the first book ends with the escape, with you getting out of all this and the difficulties of getting out of it.
How you know alone isolated, without any money, without any power, without any connections abandoned, and have to yet figure out a way to survive and to pull yourself back together and get together again.
Life that was really destroyed, not to admission.
You know the extremely low self-esteem you walk out with after all that right, suddenly you were powerful successful, you had everything you wanted, and the next day your credit cards don't work.
You have nothing, you know, no money, no place to go, no friends.
You're just abandoned and and not in particularly good shape no, because you've gone through all this sex and drugs and rock and roll and you're now, you know, withdrawing from all that.
And it's, it's a horror show to get to survive at all.
It's a miracle you did survive.
Now, what's the second book going to do?
How are you going to go?
How are you going to follow this with the second novel?
Well, the second book uh, believe it or not, I want to go deeper into some of the.
You know, I know the first one.
Some people complain that it was too graphic, but I, like I, you know, I held back on on quite a bit.
I want to.
I mean, if I would kind of like to go deeper with with what they, what they really are doing on on their side, like when I talk to you, I realize that I mean you.
You, when you, when i'm talking to people like you, you think that they're, they consider, they know that they're evil.
I'm having a hard time explaining but.
But I want to try to explain how they don't think of themselves as the evil ones.
They think of themselves as the smart ones who are going to save humanity, or their version of it.
Um, and we're the dumb ones, we're the bad ones, we're the ones that got to get.
They got to get rid of you know.
So i'd like to, i'd like to try to get get into that a little bit more.
I also want to um maybe maybe, save a couple of the characters, even though it wasn't part of the original story.
But I got a couple different ways.
I can go with it.
I'm i've got a lot of material, I just have to organize it now.
Well, it's going to be fascinating to see what you do with it, because the the first book, um gets the relationships in the first book and you know, many of the characters go, the Raj and Sloan go all the way through the book, and there's other characters that come in and out of the book and are still, you know, but.
But it's a cast of characters, you know, that are all kind of lost in the same world and are dependent on each other, but yet don't have any real deep relationships to each other.
I mean, the relationships are all based on the drugs and the sex and the, you know, the feeling of somehow superiority and power.
It's a very seductive world.
It would be real interesting to rewrite this story from the Lee Nelson's perspective, because from his story is success in Silicon Valley.
He didn't escape.
He liked it.
He stayed with it.
He succeeded.
He's thriving, you know.
Until it comes to an end.
Right.
Until it comes to an end.
And that could be a very interesting end.
Yeah, I mean, it could be if he tries to escape or if he just dies still immersed in it, you know, he can.
Maybe you have him.
Maybe the last scene is him in a chirogenics.
Yeah, right.
Well, they do think they do want to extend life and they do think they can live forever.
And so they are seriously pursuing this type of perpetual life extension.
And they think somehow they've graduated into a class where they are now worthy of or self-appointed into or have achieved the status of.
It's hard to say, put it in words, but they're entitled.
They suddenly become entitled.
And they use their own success as proof.
They like to say, well, if our God was the bad God, why are we so successful?
Why are we doing so well when you're not?
Right.
And that's always been the seduction of Satan from the beginning.
God can't make this place work.
You're going to die.
I can make this place work.
God doesn't want you to have that tree of knowledge because if you ate that tree of knowledge, you know how bad God screwed up and didn't succeed.
Well, I'm here to fix it.
I'm here to make it perfect.
All you have to do is follow what I tell you to do.
That's pretty much sums up what they believe.
Yeah, it's the Garden of Eden story all over again and in a modern technological state where they've got all kinds of tools of technological wonder to achieve their goals.
They can think about instantaneous communications across the planet.
They can think about intercontinental, interstellar travel.
They can think about all kinds of things which are unimaginable for previous generations.
The computers, merging human beings with computers to produce a transhuman intelligence, all these things which they then contemplate and become kind of tantalizing to them.
They're so near to success to achieving them, they think, that they can become gods themselves and are entitled to become gods themselves.
I mean, it's a fascinating study in psychology.
And, you know, this is certainly not, these are not things that Freud ever kind of imagined.
There's a world that is created today and it does revert back to pagan orgies and pagan gods and all the rest of it.
But it's in a modern world with the technological advances we have, it adds a new dimension to it.
And these people do feel truly capable of doing things which in previous generations would have made them look like gods.
They show up in the 1500s with a cell phone and able to use it and communicate, you're going to be considered to be a God.
Yeah, show up with a big lighter.
Yeah, show up with a big lighter.
Right.
So it's the same thing.
And so we have achieved a lot as a species, but the fundamental nature of the human condition has not changed at all.
And we all are mortal.
We're all going to die.
You know, we all have to suffer through life and learn and grow.
And either you do or you don't, but it's not measured in terms of material success.
Here, everything's measured in terms of material success.
And it's just startling to me.
And it gets me over and over again in reading your work that these people really do envision and see and experience Satan as real.
So it's not conjuring mysteries or, you know, this is something they experience daily.
They see it and they live it.
Well, one thing that I've learned going through this exercise with you, I mean, I was, I was scared for a long time.
I hid for a lot.
Like I said, you can't really hide from them.
You just have to stay off the radar.
So I kept a really low profile for a long time, which is kind of hard to do because I want to do things.
I want to build stuff.
You know, I wanted to, you know, build an ex-killer app, that kind of thing.
But I had, but anyway, one thing I learned is that there really is truth in the power of Jesus Christ, because if I had not gone that direction, if I had not confessed and gone through all those rituals, those counter rituals, then they would have, I wouldn't be able to do this.
I'm proof that they can't touch people like me who confess and turn their lives over to Jesus Christ.
They can't get to me anymore.
And I'm quite certain of that, just because I protected now.
Before, I kind of thought I was kind of a Christian, but not really.
I mean, I believe something, but that's not very powerful.
You have to really, you have to really believe hard, you know.
We hadn't gotten to the depths of it.
It was superficial.
Yeah.
As I read it, most of the things you believe were superficial.
Yeah, I was a Christmas Christian.
Yeah.
Easter person.
You show up at Christmas and Easter and go to church.
Right.
Yeah.
And, but, but the depth of what it meant or the experiencing of it, you hadn't done.
So you had to go through this darkness to get there, which is so interesting.
The recent, the recent, Where's Wally part two?
I kind of, he goes through an exorcism and I kind of went through that.
That's why I put that out there is because that's kind of started me on my on my road to recovery was running into these these guys and they they dragged me in there one day when I was playing volleyball and they called me up and wanted me to come in and they did an exorcism.
And they didn't call it an exorcism.
They called it demon casting.
But it worked.
Yeah, it did.
All right.
Well, we're going to wrap it up.
Thanks for joining us again.
And we're going to do more of this.
We're going to do more of it.
I want people to read the book and communicate.
You can do info at silicon satan.com and communicate directly with Craig.
Read the book, ask him questions about it.
It's a, again, I say it's a good idea to have a copy of the Bible by you when you read the book.
But it's the whole point here is that we, as long as this remains hidden in the darkness, we can't defeat it.
Right.
Light of day shining on it, we have an opportunity to expose people to what this evil is all about.
So conscious decisions can be made not to go there.
And we begin to see why moral rules are put into place.
Because once these barriers are broken and you cross over into the dark side, this is what it begins to look like.
And so, therefore, it's a warning.
And it's well written.
Your writing has improved dramatically.
I mean, we began working together almost, what, six or seven years ago.
So it's taken time.
And it's not been an easy decision on your part.
You've had many starts and stops.
But it's now happening.
And we'll continue to do this.
And we'll continue to talk about current developments and things that we see in the world, real politics.
You know, we've now got a Catholic Church that is struggling as to whether it's going to continue with the LGBT and its agenda.
We've got a Pope Leo XIII, who saw Satan coming into the Catholic Church, and now Leo XIV.
Now we've got to see whether he's a continuation of the same or where we're going from here.
But, you know, again, I think the church realizes like the Democratic Party does, that it may have gone so deeply over to the dark side, there's no coming back.
And they become suicidal.
Well, there's always, you can always get back.
You can always get back.
But you have to decide to come back.
You have to seek redemption.
You have to make a decision.
You have to confess.
The only way I could get through it was to sit down and start confessing it.
Yeah.
Well, Craig, I commend you for going on this journey and sharing what you have.
And I want to continue these broadcasts so we illuminate different parts of the book and encourage people to take a serious read of it.
And thank you for joining us.
And this is Dr. Jerome Coursey, CourseyNation.com.
And ending a program like this, I'd like to remind everybody that in the end, God always wins and God will win here too.
So thank you for joining us at CourseyNation.com with Craig Lund and Silicon Satan.
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