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Nov. 26, 2025 - The Truth Central - Dr. Jerome Corsi
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Dark Rituals & the Tech Elite — Exposed

Most Americans see Silicon Valley as a shining hub of innovation, wealth, and futuristic technology. But behind the polished corporate campuses and billionaire success stories lies a hidden world of rituals, secrecy, corruption, and dark spiritual influence.In this shocking Corsi Nation episode, Dr. Jerome Corsi speaks with Cregg Lund, author of the explosive new book Silicon Satan — a fictionalized account based on the very real, very disturbing underbelly of the Silicon Valley elite.Lund reveals:🔥 The Hidden Culture Behind Big Tech• The Luciferian subculture operating inside Silicon Valley’s elite circles• Secret rituals, power games, and coercive communities• Psychological control, manipulation, and spiritual corruption• How young professionals are targeted, seduced, and pulled into the darkness• The role of billionaires, executives, and “innovation leaders” in perpetuating the system🔥 Inside Silicon Satan• The true-to-life characters inspired by Lund’s own experiences• His ex-girlfriend’s escape from the cult-like environment• Why Lund turned the truth into a fictional narrative — and what he couldn’t say directly• How this underground culture influences decisions at the highest levels of Big Tech🔥 What’s Next• Lund’s upcoming sequel• His investigative columns now appearing on CorsiNation.com• Why Dr. Corsi believes this story exposes far more than the public realizesThis episode pulls back the curtain on a side of Silicon Valley no one in mainstream media will touch.🌐 Corsi Nation Official LinksCorsi Nation Website👉 https://www.corsination.comThe Truth Central👉 https://www.thetruthcentral.comDr. Corsi on Substack👉 https://jeromecorsiphd.substack.com/💰 Corsi Nation SponsorsMyVitalC — ESS60 in Organic Olive OilBoost energy, immunity, and longevity:👉 https://www.thetruthcentral.com/myvitalc-ess60-in-organic-olive-oil/Swiss America — Protect Your Wealth with Gold & SilverGet your FREE copy of How the Coming Global Crash Will Create a Historic Gold Rush📞 800-519-6268👉 https://www.swissamerica.com/offer/CorsiRMP.phpBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/corsi-nation--5810661/support.

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I just can't wait to get off the road again.
Off the road again, on the road again.
On the road again.
On the road again, this is Jerome Coursey.
Today we've got a special guest.
I'm really pleased to bring on the show, Craig Lund, who has written this novel we published, which is Silicon Satan.
And this novel, I've been working with Craig on this for several years.
Craig Chris came to me and talked about his experience in Silicon Valley.
And we started in on writing a novel about his experience.
And Craig has actually completed the novel.
The first one is published.
And we've now created a column on CourseyNation.com.
We're going to show you that in a minute.
And Craig is writing a second novel and it's being serialized on our website.
So here Chris is showing you the website.
And if you scroll down, you'll see here, in fact, we have a Silicon Satan column right there.
And a chapter of the next novel is displayed there.
You can read it.
And that's in that window, we will be having the next serialization.
It'll be a serialized novel.
And when you go to the homepage, the homepage for Craig on our website, you'll have additional information.
So when you click, I believe you click the white bar.
Can you navigate there, Chris, to his page?
I think it's the red bar beneath the story right there.
See that red bar?
You click that.
I think you there you go.
This is this is Craig's page on our website.
Okay, and you're going to see who he is, various aspects of previous chapters.
Craig has his own website, silicon satan.com.
We're going to talk about all this.
He's a brilliant programmer.
He does a lot of animations.
I think it's going to be to me, this is a very important part of the program because I want people to understand that the satanic nature of life exists.
It's real.
It's not fantasy.
The demonic is part of our spiritual existence and we have to fight it.
And with Craig's experience, we're going to be able to understand what he went through.
He experienced it.
He escaped.
He's now living off-grid and is still recovering from the experience.
But these novels are part of the therapy of him sharing his experience and working it out internally.
So, Craig, thank you for joining us.
And I admire your courage in confronting these demons and writing this book.
Well, thank you for having me, Jerry.
Well, let's start out with: You were a programmer in Silicon Valley.
Yes.
And tell us how you started in Silicon Valley, how you got there and what you were doing, because you really were on a fast track to be making huge amounts of money and to be very prominent in Silicon Valley.
Yeah, I'd like to say I force gumped my way there.
I never really intended on getting a degree in computer science.
I was always interested in math and physics.
And I was in Monterey.
I was at Monterey Peninsula College taking physics courses.
And my physics teacher is the one who talked me into applying at Cal Poly in computer science.
So I did.
And I got accepted.
Even though I was a high school dropout, I got accepted.
And next thing I knew, I was in Silicon Valley.
Well, you must have been kind of having that best.
Must have been done pretty well in computer science.
I did very well because I had a very strong affinity for math and physics.
So if you know math, then you know computer science.
And back then, you have to remember, this is a long time ago.
It was 30 or 40 years ago.
Silicon Valley was a much different place.
And programming was a lot different.
I mean, when you were programming back there, you were down at pretty close to the hardware level.
Whereas today, you're three or four, maybe six or seven layers up.
Yeah, you're almost a machine code level down at that level.
Yeah, I did write a lot of assembly code in my past.
And I have code all over the place now.
It's kind of odd.
In fact, I have code in the Unix kernel, which means I'm certain there's Unix systems on SpaceX rockets.
So that means I have code up in space.
Yeah, I mean, this is very advanced stuff.
Computers operate in one and zero.
And assembly language is the structure of the ones and zeros that tells the computer what to do.
Yeah, yeah, so to speak.
I look at it as on and off.
Any real computer scientist will look at it as on and off.
I mean, these are on and off states.
You have two binary states.
And that's the confusing part about quantum computing.
Maybe we'll get there, but I'm very interested in how this works that I cannot figure it out.
And every time I get to the that particular, I forget the name of it that they say is making quantum computing possible, I hit a wall.
So there's something else going on.
And I'm pretty certain I haven't figured out at this point.
Well, we'll get to that.
Now, in Silicon Valley, you had a career and you started getting employed.
And why don't you tell us about how your career track progressed?
Well, let's see.
It really started while I was still at Cal Poly.
I had a strong background in construction, living on a horse ranch.
And so I was taking construction jobs to pay my way through college.
And I hooked up with this one guy who happened to be working at Diablo Canyon.
He was one of the managers out there at Dabble Canyon.
And his wife would make us lunch.
And so I went to his office one day and he had a bunch of stuff on the whiteboard.
And he was explaining it to me.
I don't really remember what it was, but I figured it out for him.
I can't recall what exactly it was, but I figured something out for him.
And he was impressed.
And so he hired me as a part-timer, as a part-time programmer, even though I hadn't graduated yet at Diablo Canyon.
And then so I worked there for a couple of years, but I had to keep it real quiet because in San Luis Obispo, it's a liberal, very liberal city town.
You really didn't want people knowing that you worked out there because they were protesting all the time.
What was his name?
I can't remember the guy's name, Jackson, something.
A musician was out there protesting.
So I had to be very careful about Jackson Brown, I think it was.
Jackson Brown, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jackson Brown.
Yeah, so I got to meet him going into the date.
And then I just every time I, everywhere I went, I was meeting people and getting new opportunities.
And it happened very fast, very, very fast.
I went, I graduated with a lot of people who ended up working for me.
Not directly, but I was four or five levels ahead of them within three or four years.
In three or four years, I was already at executive level management.
And a lot of it had to do with going to these parties and meeting the right people and not backing away.
That's how you make it there.
A lot of people have this idea that you can go to Hollywood or Silicon Valley now and say, hey, I'm here to sell my soul for fame.
And it doesn't work that way.
You got to have skill.
And you got to have that X factor.
You got to have that charisma.
And you got to be willing.
You got to show that you're willing.
And it took me a long time to get over the fact that I did that.
I did these things.
I did a lot of these things.
You know, at the time, you don't think about it.
It's just happening so fast.
And then one day you look back and you go, man, what am I doing?
And then by then, it's too late.
And you're saying you wrote code and it's in the Unix machines and it's probably in space and SpaceX, et cetera.
Now, I want people to understand that you, in terms of creating Unix systems, Unix code, you were writing routines for the computer.
You're writing basic operating routines.
In that particular example, as I recall, it was a long time ago.
But we had to modify the IO control system call for something we were doing.
I believe we were doing it.
It was on a TFS project.
But anyway, so you submit your change, and then if it gets accepted, it becomes part of the kernel.
And it got accepted.
And so, yeah, so that's one of my claims to fame.
That becomes a permanent part of the Unix system.
Right.
That code is code becomes fundamental architecture.
I don't know if my original lines of code are still there, but because it may have been upgraded or enhanced or overwritten, rewritten, whatever.
I've never looked.
Right, but it's possible it's still there.
It's probable.
It's probably.
Same thing with, you know, I wrote the PeopleSoft Tree utility, the Tree Manager, which is a tool.
It's a graphical interface to a hierarchical database.
That's what it started out as, but it became a navigation tool.
And Oracle owns it now.
Larry Ellison, my friend Larry Ellison, owns it now.
But that's probably in every corporate 2000 or global 2000 company across the planet.
So yeah, I got code everywhere.
Yeah, code everywhere.
Now, the book Silicon Satan tells a story.
And where did you grow up?
I grew up in California on a horse ranch on a large Tennessee Walker horse ranch and my grandfather and my grandfather and his son and my dad at the time.
I've had a few dads, but it was in Central California.
It was, if you go to Fresno and turn left, go east until you hit the mountains, that's where we were.
And the story takes place in the same locale.
Yeah.
What I was trying to do was give some background after why I made the kinds of decisions that I was making.
Våre modeller tilbys med firulstrekk, sånn at du trygt kan ferdes.
Det er meldt glatte veier og vanskelige kjøreforhold fremover, og for de uten firulstrekk fra Volkswagen, så passer det vel greit å spille en låte her.
Off the road again, der altså.
Ja, det kan være lurt å skaffe seg en Volkswagen med firulstrekk, sånn at man holder seg.
On the road again.
On the road again, ja.
Because when I first started writing, I hadn't, you know, you know, Corinne, I hadn't told Corine a whole lot when I was writing.
Corrine's your wife.
Corrine's your wife.
Correct.
I hadn't told Corine everything, of course.
Told her enough to try to scare her away, but she wouldn't go.
Sorry, I just lost something buzzed over there.
I lost my what were we talking about?
We're talking about how you grew up in this ranch and you fictionalized it.
Oh, yeah, right.
So I was trying to give background into why I made the decisions that I made because even when Crean was reading it, she was asking, Well, why didn't you just walk away?
Why didn't you just turn around and walk away?
And it wasn't that easy.
It's really not that easy to do that.
I mean, when you were there and there's all this glamour and people are, you know, rich people and money and girls and drugs and stuff going on, it's really hard to just walk away.
I mean, eventually I did, and that was really hard.
I mean, it was really, it took three attempts to do it.
And, you know, God's the one that got me out of there.
Well, the book starts out on this ranch.
And tell who's the main character in the book?
The main character is a guy named Raj.
He's he's sort of modeled after me.
My grandfather on my dad's side was nicknamed Raj because our last name is Rogers.
He was worked for Howard Hughes on the Spruce Goose.
He was a aviation engineer.
Right.
And in the story, it starts out.
I mean, these first scenes in the story, which captivated me, Raj is out riding, and there's a girl involved in it.
Let's tell that story.
Yeah, that seems to be the most controversial part of the book, even though there's a lot of devil stuff going on.
People seem to be most offended by those first few scenes.
So, what I was trying to do there was show that where I grew up, the way I grew up, the adults were not very responsible people at all.
It was the 60s and 70s.
And they had the whole sexual revolution going on.
And my family was right there on the front lines of it.
And we were a party barn.
We Tennessee Walkers.
So it was a lot of parties.
So I was already into the party scene.
And then so what I was trying to do was kind of relate a lot of events that took place out there.
I tried to kind of bundle them up into one sort of scene with the little girl Sloan.
I mean, I kind of think what's happening pretty readily out there.
I mean, we had a lot of people out there, a lot of, you know, I've seen people having sex when I was, you know, seven years old kind of thing.
So you're a young guy riding a horse and Sloane comes out and she wants to ride the horse and she shows herself naked to you.
Pretty much, yeah.
It happened a little bit differently in real life with my real ex-wife.
I actually was up at a cave.
The horse we parked already.
We went up to this cave, this family cave, but I did want to bring that into the story.
Well, and the whole scene is very sexual, even though you're children.
Well, we grew up that way, though.
I mean, to us, it wasn't, it didn't seem like we were didn't even get into that much trouble for that kind of stuff.
We weren't really that worried about it.
And part of it also has to do with the sexualization of children, which is part of the whole satanic cult ritual.
Right.
So that's what I was trying to do was make, was, was hook that in to show, okay, well, where does this, where does this kind of behavior, you know, lead 20 years later?
And you can kind of see, you know, in the 60s and 70s, everything was supposedly innocent, but it evolves and it evolves very quickly.
It evolves so quickly it can't keep up.
By the time I reached Silicon Valley, you know, getting naked and having sex in front of people wasn't a big deal anymore.
I mean, it is now.
I mean, I'm different now.
Yeah.
But back then, it was just routine.
It was just part of the day.
It's part of the whole and this normalization of sex, even as young children, you know, which is the pedophilia aspect.
Yeah.
And it is now, I think, a worldwide major issue of corruption in terms of the ruling elites, the wealthy elites, the World Economic Forum elites, the Silicon Valley elites, Hollywood elites, government elites.
I mean, it's a it's for the average person, it's almost hard to get your mind around that the sexualization of children or the pedophilia is central to this whole satanic orientation towards life.
Yes.
And, you know, once I broke out and I started looking back, I felt very guilty because it seemed like it all started with us, but it didn't.
It started a long time ago.
You know, this has been going on for thousands of years.
It felt like it started with my generation.
I've carried around a certain guilt for a long time.
Started doing the research and realized there is something big in the world, something very big that I ran into, and I'm going to figure out what it is.
Well, I mean, you've even got parts of the book.
It's a fascinating book.
When people start reading this, first of all, I guarantee you that your first reaction is going to be, this is not easy to read because some of it's just shocking.
And it's not pornography because it's not written for the point of view to titillate.
It's the sex is really almost in some ways not repulsive, but it's so twisted that it is, you're realizing you're realizing a spiritual dimension to what a spiritual perversion.
And the darkness of it is what hits you.
So when people start reading this book, sometimes they can't get very far because it's dark.
And then once you get over that, then they get captivated by the book and people get to a point where they can't stop reading it.
Yeah, and the fact that it's borderline pornographic should be a warning.
It should be a big red flag.
I didn't write pornography.
I wrote true experiences.
I fictionalized.
I've changed the names in the places.
But the events were common.
So if people today still think that's borderline pornography, then they have a lot of catching up to do.
A lot.
Yeah.
And For instance, when you talk about what you just mentioned, the fact that this has been ancient, part of the book goes on, discusses getting into Hawaii.
Yeah.
And you go into the ancient rituals in Hawaii, which involved sacrifice and eating and cooking of babies.
Right.
So when I got when I, when I'd done a project in Hawaii on the Keck telescope, I wrote the process control system for the dome and shutters of the Mighty Keck telescope.
And I learned a lot about Hawaii being there.
My friends were Hawaiians.
And then when I came back and went to and ended up in Silicon Valley, this was just before I had gone to Silicon Valley and then I got that project, that job.
So I spent two years in Hawaii and then I came back to Silicon Valley.
And I started noticing there's a lot of Hawaii.
There's a lot of Hawaii in Silicon Valley.
Why is everybody so infatuated with Hawaii?
And then I kind of put the pieces together.
It's because they're cannibals and Hawaii is one of the most successful, if not the most successful cannibalistic society in history.
And the reason why they were so successful is because they were isolated, first of all, and because they had two classes of people.
They had the Ali, the royal class, and then the commoners, the Kamainas.
And they were very specific about, very careful about what they ate.
They wanted young, healthy, and pretty much nothing else.
But a lot of it was punishment as well.
But that's why you see a lot of these guys, they're building these big mansions in Hawaii.
When I was there one day, I got lost and we ran out of gas.
And when you run out of gas in Hawaii, you're kind of lost.
I saw these lights and I crawled over there and it turned out it was Harrison Ford's new place.
Nobody even knew he was building this place.
And it's just a big mansion right there.
So everybody's building these mansions and they like Hawaii because they like the spirit of the successful cannibalism, I suppose.
You know, they're drawn to that.
The demons that hang out with them are drawn to it.
And they're all there.
It's like a big club over there.
And the demons become, the demons are real.
I mean, you're talking about.
Yeah, they're real.
They're very real.
Yeah.
The spiritual entities that are present.
Yeah.
And people begin to perceive them.
You learn to recognize them.
You learn to see them.
And they are actual existing beings.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And what I've learned is if you don't want to see them, it's really hard for them to be seen.
There are a lot of limitations that these demons are under.
And that's why it's, I mean, they have a lot of knowledge.
They have a lot of, in fact, that's what I'm writing now is about how do we get, how are we getting this knowledge from these watchers?
You know, how are we getting this quantum computer technology that we don't even understand?
It's very difficult to get.
It's not like they just hand you a set of specs.
You know, it takes a lot of ritual, a lot of ritual to get to that point.
It takes a lot of ritual to do a lot.
That's why the rituals are sold with the body.
I'm on the road again.
With I'm on the road again from Volkswagen, you'll be completely different.
Volkslogen comes to the jacket.
It's so prevalent in Silicon Valley and Hollywood.
It's all about the rituals.
People don't realize it, but they're running us all through rituals all the time.
Every time you watch a Super Bowl halftime, you're part of a ritual.
Every time you watch the Olympics shows, you're part of a ritual.
You know, there's a lot of spellcasting going on, especially these days.
I see a lot of it now.
A lot of spellcasting going on.
That's why you got these people walking around like zombies.
They're under a spell.
Yeah, and the demonic nature of it.
I mean, the events that occur, first of all, the rituals to get initiated into this, which involve sex and fairly bizarre sex, very, very abusive sex.
And, you know, if you're going to be initiated into it, the experience of the ritual almost collapses you into not being able to get away from it.
In other words, you're, it captures part of your soul and captures part of your being.
Right.
So it does a couple of things.
It punches a hole in your soul, makes you a lot weaker.
And it gives you the guys something to hold over you.
Right.
Blackmail.
Right.
So, you know, they talk a lot about loyalty, loyalty, loyalty.
You got to be loyal.
You want to be in this club.
You got to be loyal.
We want to test your loyalty.
It's just you hear about the loyalty.
And that way, you know, when it comes time to prove your loyalty, it's real easy for them to get you to do a lot of stuff you wouldn't do normally.
I've done a lot of things.
I, you know, I'm not affected by it anymore.
Well, I guess I am, but I'm, I'm still, it's still, you know, I'm still ashamed of it.
You know, I wish, you know, there's no, there's no getting away from it, you know, my past, but uh, I except to try to warn people, you know, don't don't do that.
Don't don't walk into this.
Just don't do it.
Don't walk into it.
You know, I know a lot of people who've had great careers in Silicon Valley and they don't know any of this.
They don't know.
I mean, people I graduated, one guy contacted me not too long.
He goes, he's like, Craig, you've gone crazy.
This was going on.
It's like, yeah, not for you.
That's why you're not a gazillion there.
That's why you made a good living and you retired, but that's all you got.
You know, you weren't part of it.
You were never part of it.
You don't have to.
If you get into the demonic part of it, you go, I'll go through the rituals and you become part of the whole scene.
And the scene is sex parties with drugs, orgies, with the extravagant exhibition.
Someone might get killed on stage to heighten everybody's excitement and the sexual acts performed.
I mean, these things are.
It's that.
And it's also to get the other entities that are in the room excited as well.
You have to kind of prove to them, you know, what we got going on.
You know, this is what we're doing here.
We're not going to, you know, we're not here.
We're not messing around.
We're not amateurs here.
We called you in for a reason.
You know, well, evil is not just doing evil things, it's doing evil things because they're evil.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You want to call these powers forward.
The whole thing is the whole goal is power and prestige.
And you wonder, well, okay, so like the guy I just mentioned, he had a pretty good living.
Why do you need, why do you need so much power and prestige?
And I don't know if we want to talk about this today.
We can talk about it eventually, but it's to me, it's these Lucy wars that I see.
It's all about the Lucy wars.
And talk about the Lucy Wars.
What are the Lucy wars?
The best way to describe it is it's kind of like the Game of Thrones, where you have all these houses and they're all competing to be the number one.
And in the Lucy Wars, you have all these, I call them Cobins or circles, Lucy circles, they're all fighting for battling for power or battling for recognition from Lucifer.
They want to be Lucifer's number one.
And Lucifer doesn't care.
Lucifer wants full control.
He doesn't care.
He doesn't care how he gets it.
He doesn't care who gives it to him.
He doesn't care.
And a lot of these guys think that he does, but he doesn't.
I say he just because it's easier.
So you and I are part of a house.
You know, these peasants are part of these houses and Game of Thrones.
And they think that, oh, this, these royal people are, you know, they're looking out for us.
And really, they're not.
They're looking out for themselves.
But at the same time, it might benefit them to look after all their people because the people are the ones that feed them, etc.
And these wars are, if you look, well, I'm not really ready to talk about it yet, I guess.
You'll get there.
You'll get there.
It's hard to explain.
It's hard to explain.
I mean, if I use the Game of Thrones analogy, it starts to fall apart a little bit.
But if you watch, I can see these guys, like I can see the Silicon Valley Luciferians battling with the DC Luciferians, battling with the Hollywood Luciferians against the Russian Luciferians.
You know, there's all these battles going on, and we think it's politics.
We think that it's for us.
We think that they're battling for us.
They're not.
They're battling for themselves.
And if they can bring us along, great, because we do a lot.
I see right now that everything is changing, though.
Everything is suddenly changing.
I've been watching these people for 30 years.
Something big is going on.
It looks like a big reset, some sort of, I mean, the great reset.
But when I say reset, I mean, it's like they're resetting their baseline.
Why did they get everybody off the streets in 2020?
Because they want to reset their baseline for surveillance.
Why did they censor so many people?
Again, they're resetting their baseline for acceptable speech.
So they're going to all these great lengths.
Something is coming.
Something big is coming.
Well, it's almost like it's like they at a point where they're going to lose it if they don't win.
So they're racing to the finish line.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yes.
When you talk to these people, they don't believe in losing.
They don't think they're going to lose at all.
They really do believe that they are going to battle God and take over God's kingdom and win.
They really do believe that.
I mean, these people are crazy.
But they're truly devoted to Lucifer.
Yes, and they're truly devoted because they believe, they truly believe that that's the right thing.
They think that we're the bad guys.
That they get power, that Lucifer really rules here.
And so therefore, they have to seek the favor of Lucifer, even if it means committing heinous acts, killing, eating babies, torturing.
But if you are brought up to a superhuman level, then when you devour a human infant, you don't look at it as a human infant anymore.
It's not, it's, it's, you're not, to you, to that person, he's not really committing a sin anymore.
Because you're consuming the power of the entity.
Yeah, that.
And yeah.
Yeah.
You're feeding on something that is evil, but it's building your power.
But again, they don't, it's hard to say, but they don't see themselves as evil.
They're not, to them, they're not doing evil things.
They're not doing anything wrong.
They're doing what they are supposed to do.
They're doing what they should be done as far as they are all concerned.
You know, a lot of these people are very, very, you know, these are the richest and wealthiest people in the world.
And they have these secret lives where they think that they're going to live forever.
And Lucifer is going to be their God and they're going to live for it.
You know.
Yeah.
Well, the book has a lot of dramatic scenes in it in which this is all played out.
And as you get into the book and you start getting seduced into reading the logic of what's going on, the logic of the sex, the logic of the relationships, the logic of the drugs, the black magic, all this stuff begins to create a world that is so foreign to most people that would be hard to believe it even exists.
But it is, but it is not fantasy.
It actually exists.
It does exist.
A lot of times they'll make a look fantastical on purpose just to throw everybody off.
That's where the Satanists come in.
They like to use the Satanists.
So there's a difference between the Luciferians and the Satanists.
The Satanists are amateurs.
They don't really know what they're doing.
But the Luciferians will use them as cover.
If something goes wrong, you know, every time I went to one of these big parties, there's always the Satanists that are always there.
But that way, if something goes wrong, they'll just blame it on them.
They'll say these stupid Satanists did another botched, you know, sacrifice.
They don't know what they're doing.
So when you see that, then you know, oh, they bought something got botched.
Something, somebody screwed up, something went wrong.
They're never going to get caught.
The people that were there are never going to get caught.
It's going to be these poor fools in these, you know, these gothic outfits that will take the blame.
I'm just going to read a couple of paragraphs here.
This is on a paragraph that's dealing with Easy, a character you create called Easy.
Easy.
Yeah, yeah.
And say, my favorite.
Yeah, who is Easy?
This is wait till you meet him if you ever do.
He's really ugly and big, like he could eat a bear raw.
He's also like the nicest guy I've ever met.
It's really strange.
You saw him on the streets, you'd be like, oh my God, he's going to kill everybody.
Then you have dinner with him, find out he's very articulate, intelligent.
It's a very different way of looking at things.
Anyway, he and Dana are getting married at the ranch in a couple of months.
Easy said he was going to invite up about 3,000 outlaw bikers, including a couple dozen real hell's agents.
You should come if you can.
Talking to Raj.
Yeah, hell's angels.
Hell's angels.
Now, scenes like this remind me of saying, you know, that the nature of the sophistication of Lucifer, this is a sophisticated and elegant, represented as a life that's higher, above, you know, that a man of class and distinction, or whatever the Rolling Stone said.
Remember the Rolling Stone song about Satan?
Yeah.
Which is, you know, a man of class and distinction.
Sympathy for the devil.
Sympathy for the devil.
Right.
And so, but, but at the heart, there's an element to it, which is frightening, but at the same time, attracting, as if this is powerful, interesting, strange, but alluring.
Yeah.
Very alluring.
Very alluring.
You know, and There are many scenes in the book like this.
And as you begin to get into it, you see the seductive power of it all.
And yet, and these people advance, these are the people who are blessed.
So they get to head corporations.
They get all kinds of money.
Everything is working powerfully.
But you can't opt out, can you?
You can.
That's what makes me unique.
I don't care if people believe me or not.
I was on that track.
I mean, I was definitely on that track.
I was going.
I was going far.
And, you know, God got me out of there.
That's just no other way to say it.
How did that happen?
Well, first, the first thing that happened, the first weird thing, I started having urges, first of all, that, you know, this isn't, I got to get out of here.
This is, this is weird.
I don't like doing this anymore.
I don't care where I'm going.
And when I started having urges, I know, you know, all of a sudden I noticed that people, the people I was working with seemed to have picked up on that because suddenly I was sort of a bad guy.
And then ultimately, and this sounds, this is going to sound strange, but I got thrown into a Vascular Security Mental Institution.
I mean, these guys got me thrown in there.
This is the J Ward of Marathon Middle Hospital.
That's the mental hospital in the Bay Area.
And J Ward is the belly of the beast.
And I got thrown in there.
And it wasn't looking good for me.
And this voice that I put in the book got me out.
I escaped.
I was able to escape by listening to this voice.
It sounds crazy, but I mean, who has ever managed to escape from Maximum Security Mental Institution?
You escape from jail and you're a murderer.
People think, okay, you can go out murder.
You escape from jail and you're a drug guy.
You go, you escape from a mental institution.
They don't know what you're going to do.
So suddenly I was a fugitive in three counties and 22 police agencies.
And it took me about a month to get out of that.
But I finally got out of it.
And then, of course, I went right back into Silicon Valley because I kept doing what I was doing.
And the next thing that happened was I got really sick, really sick to where I was in the hospital.
And I had to have a heart valve transplant.
And that's when I thought, well, okay, this is the perfect time to get out of here because I'm going to be laid up for a long time.
And I can kind of fade away.
And it took a year.
It took a year for me to get through all that.
But again, you know, I started going back.
You know, I started going back.
So then the third thing that happened was we got ran off.
I was a passenger in the car.
I got ran off the road.
We went down the cliff and I broke my neck.
And I was next thing I knew, I'm in Stanford, back at Stanford Medical Center with a broken neck and paralyzed.
They said, you're going to be paralyzed.
You're going to be in a wheelchair the rest of your life.
My sisters are already making plans to shoot me in the head because they knew there's no way this guy can live in a wheelchair.
And then after about four or five days, I could start moving again.
And pretty soon I'm moving.
And then I found out that I'm getting a whole bunch of money out of this.
These guys, when I was backing out, when I was trying to get out, they start chopping, they start cutting things off.
They took away my car.
They took away my credit cards.
And now suddenly I had like half a million dollars of my own money from this car accident because I still had really good insurance and stuff.
So that's what I, that's when I took off.
I went up north, Northern California, hit out, hooked up with a couple horseback riding outfits up there, hung out for a while up there, did a lot of traveling, kept a real low profile.
Then my mother bought some property in Squaw Valley, California to build a horse ranch.
So I went over there, spent a year, about a year there helping her build that place up.
And then found some property to buy of my own.
So I bought that and was remodeling.
And that's when I met Corrine.
And Cream stuck around, you know.
I was doing a lot of serial dating, you know, 15 years prior to that.
And I made a point of scaring women off because I didn't want to, I didn't really want anybody.
But Crean wouldn't leave, and she's still here all these years later.
Thank God for that.
Well, I mean, you did pull yourself out of it.
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And that's rare.
Yeah.
I don't take the credit.
I can't take all the credit, though, because those three things got me out of there.
And in the book, a large part of the book is getting out of it and what you went through to get out of it and how you found yourself with nothing.
Yes.
And all that you had had could be stripped from you, including your identity.
And it about drove you insane.
Yeah.
So when I came back after the heart surgery, and everybody was like, okay, great, you're back.
You're back.
Yeah, we got this going.
We got this going.
And I was, and they could tell I wasn't interested.
That's when they started cutting stuff off.
They could tell that, okay, something happened to this guy.
Maybe it was being on a hard line machine for eight hours because that does change your personality.
Well, I don't care what they thought.
But I was heading out and they knew it.
And they started cutting stuff off.
Well, one of the go ahead.
What they do is they start taking you out of all the opportunities and those and opportunities to get to the places that a lot of these guys are at now that you see every day.
You have to stick with it.
You got to, you have to go to, you have to keep going.
You have to keep being there.
You have to keep doing it.
You know, you can't take days off.
You can't say, oh, I'm sick.
I have to take a year off.
Even though I was allowed to, when I came back, it was like, ah, you know, we've lost interest.
Go to Stockton and we got a job for you out there.
Well, the whole process of getting out, and you're good on this, too, and we'll do much of this discussion to interpret things that we're seeing in the world from a Luciferian perspective.
In other words, okay, so a famous actor dies.
You know, Robin Williams' suicide comes to mind immediately.
Well, Robin Williams was red scarfed.
Talk about red scarfing.
Red scarfing is, I don't know that they do it so much anymore because it's too obvious now.
A red scarfing is when, and I found out about it way back then because I was very close to it, very close to what was going on.
When you get red-scarfed, you commit suicide by hanging yourself with a red scarf on a doorknob.
How does that happen?
But I think I have a list of a whole bunch on my website, maybe a dozen or so of people that you would recognize, but there's a lot of people that that happens to.
That just means that either, well, Robin Williams had his contract was up and he wasn't willing to renew it, or he was about to do something.
He was about to whistleblow or tell on them.
It's either one or you get red scarred for one or the other.
You become they kill you because you're no longer can be, you're no longer loyal.
It's more than killing you.
It's a ritual.
They take your blood.
They take your last breath blood.
They do all this weird shit.
You know, they, they, you know, they, they, all these guys have these handkerchiefs, you know, with blood on them, and that's their trophies.
You know, a lot of these guys are wearing uh swatches.
It's it's human skin, you know, from victims that they had contracts out on.
And to, you know, these guys are, like I said, they're crazy.
They act normal.
You go to dinner with them and you don't even know.
You don't even know that they have human skin.
That, you know, their little swatch right here is actually human skin.
It's so bizarre.
It is.
That's why, you know, I was quiet for a long time because who's going to believe me?
Who's going to believe us?
And then, and then all of a sudden, you know, I put this picture out on 4chan, that one with all those guys, all the tech guys and Obama.
And then someone mentioned Patriot Soapbox.
I went out there.
That's when I saw you and those guys doing all the queuing and talking about all this stuff.
And it's like, they're talking about stuff that I'm hiding.
They're talking about the stuff that I refuse to talk about.
Maybe now I can start talking about it.
And that's when I contacted you.
Well, there was a picture.
I don't know whether you can find it, Chris, but there's a picture, a famous picture of Obama in Silicon Valley.
And he's at the table having dinner and drinks.
And he's surrounded by all the luminaries at the table from Silicon Valley.
And it, you know, looks like it was one, it was around the time, I think, when Obama was rerunning, running for re-election around 2011 or 2012.
Well, here's the thing: you know, that picture, they do this a lot.
When something like that leaks, they'll come up with a backstory.
That's the picture right there.
Yeah, that's that's it.
So the backstory that I've been hearing about that is not the true backstory.
They've made that up.
That's not the right backstory.
You know, this 2012 and this was a marketing meeting or something.
No, no, that's just their cover story now.
Same thing with the pictures of the babies, you know, the gold-dusted babies.
They have a new backstory for that one.
Some guy at Hong Kong, you know, was buying them.
Now, that's just, that's, that's just their cover stories.
What's the real story here?
This is the day that technology and DC banded together.
Like, you know, I was talking about Game of Thrones and they create alliances and these alliances will fall apart.
Even within each circle, you know, there's people are always trying to be the number one.
It's all, you know, if you watch horses, horses hang out in groups of threes, and then the groups of threes hang out in groups of threes.
So you have nine and on and on and on.
It's always threes and the threes are always changing.
These guys do the same thing.
It's odd.
They're always hanging out in groups of threes.
And these three, these groups of threes or multiples of threes, they're constantly changing a lot.
So anyway, this is the day that that, and can you imagine the ritual that went on after this dinner?
I mean, how many people, how many anyway?
Yeah.
What kind of ritual went on after this?
The highest, the blood rituals.
I mean, they, they, you know, I can't, it's hard for me to see, but I've never really looked real close to see what's on the table, but I bet you there's some weird stuff on the table.
Wouldn't surprise me.
It would surprise me if it wasn't.
I mean, I know for a fact that these guys did, there was, there was some, a lot of bloodshed that night.
I know that for a fact.
Well, I shouldn't say for a fact, it wasn't there, but I'm 99% sure that there was some lost souls that night.
So this picture I was talking about because again, we were looking at the alliances here.
This was a time when Obama was very, very deeply into the technology and the voting technology and the power of this technology for surveillance and other purposes.
And they were all combining in forces, which was not for the advancement of freedom or God.
This was the exact opposite.
The celebratory nature of it, all toasting and Obama at the center position of it.
is again, you know, the recognition of the dark side of, you know, what I was writing about in Obama Nation.
I was writing that Obama really did not have any faith, that he did, that he was raised as a Muslim, that he ridiculed Christianity, etc.
Yeah.
And what I found interesting about Craig was Craig was willing to write about it.
So we have this novel out now.
Now, the reason we're going to make this.
No, wait a minute.
Wait a minute, Jerry.
I wasn't all that willing.
I mean, it took you six years to get me to write this.
Yeah, it took me six years to get you to write this book.
It was not easy to get you to do it.
I even threw it out.
I threw it out throughout the first one.
Yeah, well, you quit on it any number of times and it would attack me on the internet one way or another.
And I decided to ignore all that.
And I just kept coming back to you to keep saying, okay, well, he's had a period of time.
Now he's recovered and he's back.
And so we started it again.
It was very difficult to go through that.
I mean, I apologize for the things that I did, but I was just, you know, it was really hard.
It was really hard.
Well, I understood what you were doing because I understood how hard it was.
And I understood how hard this was going to be to bring to fruition.
This was not necessarily this book.
This book has a power to it, which is designed to expose the evil so that it can be eradicated.
When I was done with that book, I didn't care if it sold a single copy.
To me, I needed to write that book.
That book cured me.
Well, I'm not cured yet, but it was a spiritual exercise.
And it did more than just cure you.
It was a moral, mortal first blow to the evil itself.
Yes.
Because what this evil can't stand is the light of day.
And what will ultimately destroy it is the light of day.
And that's the nature of the truth that had to be told.
Now, I knew that this was not going to be easy for you to do.
And we were going to go through a lot of anguish to get it done.
And quite frankly, I didn't know from time to time whether you would ever return or whether you were able to master, get control of yourself so you could advance on it or whether it would be overwhelming and you'd have to quit.
Well, I'm sure you didn't either.
You kept coming back, though.
And when you did, I figured, okay, here's an historic opportunity to record what this evil is really all about.
The first book took me like six years to kind of write when you and I were working and I didn't know how to write.
I didn't know what I was doing.
And then I got to a point.
I knew my mother died.
I couldn't go see her and I couldn't go to the funeral.
I was so livid that I saw that and I tore it up and I deleted it.
And Crean had saved a bunch of it.
And then a couple of years later, she pulled it out and said, maybe you should look at this again.
And at the same time, you and I were back in contact.
So I let you know that, yeah.
And then you said, yeah, go ahead and write it again.
And I sat down and I wrote and wrote and wrote and wrote.
I wrote a thousand pages.
And we had to go through and pick out, you know, 450.
Yeah, it, and your writing improved as you went along.
You, you taught yourself how to write.
Yeah, we write that much.
You kind of have to.
I mean, you learned how to develop characters.
You learned how to develop scenes and dialogue.
And the writing definitely improved.
And I think now your second novel is going to be even better because you've mastered some of the craft of putting the story together.
Plus, I've learned how to be organized, how to organize all this.
My biggest problem was keeping track of everything the first time.
This time, this time it's a lot more organized.
Doing it the way you've suggested is really good because it helps keep me organized.
Yes.
Well, I think the second novel, I think what's going to happen, and Chris, you can take that picture down now.
We've had enough of that picture.
By the way, I was wanting to point out that, okay, so if you look, that's Larry Ellison's table.
Yeah.
And Larry Ellison has two children.
I don't know if you're aware of this, so both are top-shelf Hollywood producers.
Any big movie you can think of, you can name right now, they're involved in.
So that's where the Hollywood connect.
So you got the Hollywood connection at that table as well.
Right.
And a lot of those people are involved with companies like Google and other companies.
And these were the top people in Silicon Valley that were creating today's social media, today's advanced computing.
What I'm suggesting is that it was more than just, we're going to do all that.
It was also, and we are going to take down the DC Lucy's or and we're going to take down the Texas Lucy's.
You know, they were forming an alliance at that table.
That's what that was.
I'm surprised that somebody, they let somebody take a picture of it.
I'm surprised that picture got out.
I would like to know who took the picture.
I have no idea.
I've never been able to find out either.
It just appeared.
And when it did appear, it caught my attention right away.
And then you helped explain it to us.
And, you know, we began to be aware of this dimension that was actively involved in our society.
And I think one of the things right now going on, even today, and I look at Europe and see Macron wanting to go to war.
And of course, Macron is married to an older man dressed as a woman.
Yeah.
And isn't that also his father?
It could well be.
That's that's Kenneth Owens is bringing this out that his father left, came back as a woman, and he's a pedophile and married his own son.
So Macron's weird-looking wife is actually his father, his biological father.
And you've got equal bizarre natures throughout the EU.
And these demons now seem to be wanting to go to war with Putin, putting armies, European armies in Ukraine, which is insanity, in order to have their evil not exposed.
And the heart of the evil that could be exposed is probably what's in the Epstein files and other files, which will come out.
I mean, these are, you know, Epstein was, I think, probably a triple agent working for the CIA, the KGB, and the Mossad.
And his job was to entice people into bizarre sexual behavior, including pedophilia and other human sacrifice, who knows, and record it all.
Even if the Epstein files come out, Jerry, it's going to be a nothing burger.
There are so many Epsteins.
Andrew Tate is an Epstein.
P. Diddy is an Epstein.
There are Epsteins everywhere.
Oprah Winfrey is an Epstein.
His file doesn't really matter.
I look at it as just a distraction to keep us our eyes off the rest of them.
Okay, so now we know that this is going on.
Here's the guy.
Here's the focus on this guy over here.
That's that's the source of it all.
That's once we got that taken care of, and it's going to go away.
Have you seen how many of these Luciferian elites have these crazy children over here in America just as well?
I mean, it's this is crazy over here.
You know, I'm gonna hold off on deciding what I believe about Trump for now because Trump seems to be a savior, and that makes me very suspicious.
But maybe he is.
Well, I've known Trump for a long time, and um, on the road again.
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But having known him, uh, I don't certainly now today, I don't see signs of I think for whatever reason, Trump never did go over into the dark side.
Trump, the thing about Trump that people have to remember is he was raised Christian.
His father was up in the um, I think the Bronx, and they would every Sunday go into Norman Vincent Peale's church in lower Manhattan.
Lower Vince, Norman Vincent Peale was a very, very prominent preacher in the 1950s who wrote The Power of Positive Thinking.
And uh, I think the formative aspect of Donald Trump's life did begin in Christianity and did begin with that positive attitude, which has persisted in Donald Trump.
So, I mean, I do not see signs of the Luciferian in Trump at all.
And, you know, you could say I might be being fooled and it's there, but I just don't see it.
And there's others for whom I have no doubt about it.
I do see it, but I can what I'm saying, for example, the Gaza vision video.
First of all, it's 33 seconds long.
33.
I mean, you can call that a coincidence.
No, it's not.
It's not.
33 is never a coincidence anymore.
If the number really is 33, they'll change it to 32 or 34 or 35.
33 is a marker.
There's bearded belly dancers in that video.
What's up with that?
What's the bearded belly dancers all about?
There's the golden statue.
Remember the golden calf?
35,000.
Anyway, like I said, I'm going to hold on.
Right now, he looks like a savior who's being tarnished, but I don't trust anybody.
I really don't.
Well, that video seemed to me to be first of all, I'm not sure who produced it.
He put it up on his social media.
I'm not sure who produced it.
But I'm hoping that he just, I'm hoping that he saw it, liked it, and put it up too fast.
That's, I think, likely to be what happened.
Is that I, you know, and it's, for instance, in the Disney movies, when they go back and they show all the Satanism of Disney movies going back to almost the very beginning, yeah.
Someone put that there.
Right.
Now knows Walt Disney is Satanist.
I'm not, I haven't crossed that path yet.
That to me is not what I saw in Walt Disney.
Okay.
And it's the, you were showing your imagery here.
So I think that that was that that particular video was bizarre.
Okay.
And it could have easily been a mockery of Trump that he did not fully perceive as such.
And he liked the idea that it showed the vision of a resort Gaza as opposed to a terrorist Gaza.
Right.
It looked like the kind of thing a Trumped developer would do.
Yes.
Until you look close.
Well, as I say, I don't know who produced that.
Yeah.
Well, what I've heard is it's an AI-produced video from some hack group.
I mean, that's as close as I can get to where did this thing come from?
Yeah, I don't think it was Trump produced.
No, because otherwise they would have said so.
Yeah.
And again, I think he just didn't vet it.
He put it out, didn't vet it.
I'm hoping.
I'm hoping that.
Well, I think he didn't think about it very hard and certainly didn't look at it.
But you've just illustrated one of the things I want to point out, and that is, given the experience you've been through, you get to see the satanic signs and things that the normal person would pass by and not recognize.
Can't unsee them.
Yeah.
And what we're showing here, Chris is showing your art from the website.
And, you know, you're a talented illustrator, too.
You produce remarkable images and you could produce a whole video feature film of all this, which maybe someday you will do.
I'll encourage you to do.
Well, some of those I did still, but most of it, yeah, is mine.
And I figured this out just like this year, you know, how to do this, just to do this, actually.
Well, again, that's part of your genius.
You know, you can do things with computers that the normal person wouldn't even comprehend could be done.
I have a real affinity for this kind of stuff.
And then I also have this very peculiar drive where once I focus on something, you can't get me out of it.
I'll stick to it for 36 hours straight.
Yeah, you tend to obsess.
You obsess on things.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, yeah.
Yeah.
And so, but I'm going to encourage you to do more videos.
I'm going to encourage you to do a whole feature film someday.
Okay.
That'd be fun.
That'd be really fun.
And, you know, the thing is, people are watching videos more than reading books now.
So it's might be a better way to get the messages out.
Well, that's going to be the next thing I'm going to do is I'm going to encourage you to take these serializations and make them into videos.
Okay.
That'd be fun.
That'd be fun.
And you could show the read it and you could watch it.
I like writing this way, by the way, because it allows me to be able to just come up with a part of the story, put it down, and then put it someplace.
Yes.
I thought it would appeal to you.
Yeah.
Now I want you to do, now I want you to take these segments and make them into videos.
Okay.
Okay.
Now, you realize that we're going to, through all this, you're going to develop a cult following.
Okay.
Okay.
And I'm not very personable either.
I mean, I may not follow up.
Well, you're completely, you know, you have no, your social skills are lacking.
And you don't care.
Well, I've done that on purpose.
I don't, you know, I hate going to town.
I was last time I went to town, I went to everybody.
I got my teeth knocked out of them.
I know that.
And I think that was an attack.
Yes, it happens a lot.
It's the third time I've had my teeth knocked out.
Well, they don't want you talking.
They don't want you talking.
These are all new.
But see, the point is that.
So the cult following.
Well, it's necessary in order to get the word out.
In other words, for people to really see this.
It's not for people to be attracted into it.
That's not the goal.
God, I hope not.
Yeah.
If that happens, then the goal is I'm held down for sure then.
No, the goal is for people to see the seductive dark side of it, to see the true evil of it, to see what the, you know, we've got a choice as human beings.
You know, we're at a point now where we could destroy everything with thermonuclear war.
It could do it in 15 minutes.
Could wipe out all the population of the world in probably half an hour.
I believe we're at a point now where everybody sees this and everybody needs to make a choice at this point.
You can't play dumb.
You can't claim an ignorance anymore.
It's out there.
I mean, if you watch any show, I grew up with all these shows.
You did, you know, all these shows.
And now you look at it.
Now I try to watch them and it's just satanic.
It's just Luciferian all over it.
I can't watch it.
I can't watch any more football games.
I can't watch the Grammys or the Oscars because that's all I see.
And it's just, to me, it's terrifying because people are loving it.
They're loving it.
Once they see through it, once people perceive it and understand the evil nature of it, which is essential to do, we're not going to defeat this by hiding it.
We're going to defeat this by exposing it.
For instance, the Democrats in the State of the Union sitting there and looking like they were all about as evil as you could get.
And they appeared evil.
I mean, the evil began to exude from them, their hatred as they sat there and watched these people being celebrated who were celebrating God and who a child who had brain cancer and wanted to be a cop and gets a badge to be a, you know, an honorary secret service agent.
That kid, his joy at that moment was almost, you bring tears to your eyes.
And these people are sitting there with hate in their heart.
Okay, now that's again, once we demonstrate this to people, once they see the facade, once they see the evil disguised as attractive and alluring, you know, because that's the whole Satan is fundamentally a liar.
And so therefore, the attractive facade is to seduce you into horrors beyond imagination.
And once you see that, then you are armed to not be seduced by it and to reject it.
You know, the fundamental prayer is to renounce Satan.
Yeah, what I'm hoping with this book is that when people read it is that A, they can recognize what's going on and B, that they will realize how horrible people really can be.
I mean, I didn't, a lot of, as you know, I toned down a lot of this because I had to.
Otherwise, it wouldn't have even gotten published.
It would have gotten banned.
But people need to realize how it's not just a little bit here, a little bit there.
It's deep, it's big, and it's everywhere.
So someone goes against the loyalty.
So they'll kill you and kill your children in front of you, torture the children, and then kill you.
It kind of depends on what level you're at.
If you're at a high level, they'll take that chance.
If you're at a low level, they'll just oust you.
I mean, I wasn't at a high enough level yet to chase me down.
I was at a high enough level that when I left, when I really got out and a couple of people were trying to get in contact with me, I let them know that I had the goods on them and they stopped.
So they were trying to lure me back.
I knew what they were up to.
And subtle threats.
And I let them know, well, here's what I have.
Do you remember that project I was on?
Yeah.
I took some Polaroids, okay?
And Polaroids cannot be photoshopped.
So, so, but anyway, yeah.
Okay, so this is a first of many conversations, and we're going to, I want people to educate themselves because we've got to eradicate this evil.
We've got to contain this evil.
It's never going to be, Satan was created by God to give us a choice.
And as more people understand the choice and understand the nature of evil, we have a greater opportunity to come to God.
And it's not going to come to God without a full appreciation of Satan.
In the New Testament, Jesus Christ is tempted by Satan in the desert.
And he has to come to the perception that Satan says, all this can be yours.
You can rule over all of this.
And Jesus says, what is it to rule over all this?
It's nothing.
This will serve me no good.
And you know, he didn't stop with Jesus.
He kept doing that same line over and over.
He's still doing it.
And people are buying it.
Yeah, they get seduced by the fact that they, you know, in fact, once you begin to see the world as you see it, those who have just all this enormous wealth and all this enormous success and all this enormous, everything goes right for them in their life.
You know, they win the most basketball games ever and they play the greatest events ever.
They have the biggest corporations.
They have billions of dollars.
You say, this is not normal.
This is the seductive power of buying into evil.
You can own everything here, but you also sell your soul for it.
And the price is you will do in the process of gaining and holding on to all of this, you will do horrific things.
And someone who would ruin a child's life, an innocent child born, trusting parents sold into sex slavery.
That child's life, the crime of destroying that child's life is horrendous.
It is abhorrent.
And it's done every day.
So then, you know, now you understand why nobody clapped, nobody on that left side clapped or that right side clapped with that little boy.
They don't see a little boy.
They see something that they've been desensitized.
Everybody on that side has been through those rituals.
I guarantee you.
Okay, sorry.
Not everybody.
A lot of them.
A lot of them.
And so when they see a little boy like that, they're not naturally choked up like you and I are over the goodness of the whole thing because they're so decent.
They're so ruined at that point that they can't recover.
There's no recovery from that stage.
No, that's they're already sold their soul to the devil.
So, you know, it's taken us six years and it's taken time, but and, you know, this venture to get this exposed is a risk, but it's a risk that has to be taken because we are here not to hide from the evil or to we're here to defeat the evil.
And you're not going to defeat something you don't understand.
True.
Very true.
Well, this is the first time I've ever come out.
I appreciate you giving me this opportunity.
I'll do better as I go.
You've done just fine.
I'm tremendously nervous about not just being here, but what might happen after this.
Well, neither one of us know.
No.
But the point is power of prayer.
And I've gone through many things in life where I should have been killed or imprisoned and they've tried.
And my marriage broke off 32 years.
My wife decided to have an affair.
She wanted me to quit politics.
God put me back to work.
So I'm not going to shy from the risks taken to do God's work.
Well, once you start doing it, it gets easy.
I've noticed.
I found that my life got easier.
I ran around scared for a long time.
I kept God over here and I kept my other life over here.
And I was kind of just floating around in the middle until I finally decided I need to make a move.
That's about the time I met Corine.
Well, you made some choices.
And life is a series of choices, decisions.
All right.
So the book is Silicon Satan.
We've now introduced it.
It will be a permanent feature in CourseyNation.com.
Craig has a column.
He's going to be doing serials and he's now going to be doing animations of the serials.
And I think it's going to be a fascinating trip.
I don't promise it's going to be a comforting trip or an easy trip, but I can promise you that entered into with the spirit to do God's work will send Satan back to hell for a long time.
God willing.
Craig, thanks for joining us.
God bless all.
In the end, God always wins.
God will win here too.
This is Jerome Coursey with CourseyNation.com.
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Thank you for joining us.
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