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The Deep State and the Deep Church: Behind Archbishop Vigano’s Stand Against Pope Francis
Pope Francis is the darling of mainstream Leftist media. Since his appointment, the current Pope has instilled several new woke directives for the Roman Catholic Church to follow and to the joy of the Globalists who wish to see the weakening of the institution. Have you ever wondered how Francis became Pope and why his predecessor, Pope Benedict, "stepped down" from the post?It goes a lot deeper than you think as the Deep State and the Deep Church through dark elements within worked together to arrange for the installation of Pope Francis and his Woke Agenda for the RCC, against which Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò is standing up -- a stance for which he is facing excommunication. Dr. Jerome Corsi and Mike McCormick (Biden's former stenographer) dive deeply into the allegations from Cardinal Vigano, Pope Francis' woke agenda, how the Pope was installed, the roles of Joe Biden, Barack Obama, laicized ex-Cardinal Theodore McCarrick and others within the Deep State and Deep Church with Pope Francis' appointment and the current siege of power designed to weaken the Roman Catholic Church from within on today's The Truth CentralThis is an encore presentationGet Mike McCormick's book, The Case to Impeach and Imprison Joe Biden, here: https://www.amazon.com/Case-Impeach-Imprison-Joe-Biden/dp/B0CQRKXVFHIf you like what we are doing, please support our Sponsors:Get RX Meds Now: https://www.getrxmedsnow.comMyVitalC https://www.thetruthcentral.com/myvitalc-ess60-in-organic-olive-oil/Swiss America: https://www.swissamerica.com/offer/CorsiRMP.phpGet Dr. Corsi's new book, The Assassination of President John F. Kennedy: The Final Analysis: Forensic Analysis of the JFK Autopsy X-Rays Proves Two Headshots from the Right Front and One from the Rear, here: https://www.amazon.com/Assassination-President-John-Kennedy-Headshots/dp/B0CXLN1PX1/ref=sr_1_1?crid=20W8UDU55IGJJ&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.ymVX8y9V--_ztRoswluApKEN-WlqxoqrowcQP34CE3HdXRudvQJnTLmYKMMfv0gMYwaTTk_Ne3ssid8YroEAFg.e8i1TLonh9QRzDTIJSmDqJHrmMTVKBhCL7iTARroSzQ&dib_tag=se&keywords=jerome+r.+corsi+%2B+jfk&qid=1710126183&sprefix=%2Caps%2C275&sr=8-1Join Dr. Jerome Corsi on Substack: https://jeromecorsiphd.substack.com/Visit The Truth Central website: https://www.thetruthcentral.comGet your FREE copy of Dr. Corsi's new book with Swiss America CEO Dean Heskin, How the Coming Global Crash Will Create a Historic Gold Rush by calling: 800-519-6268Follow Dr. Jerome Corsi on X: @corsijerome1Our link to where to get the Marco Polo 650-Page Book on the Hunter Biden laptop & Biden family crimes free online:https://www.thetruthcentral.com/marco-polo-publishes-650-page-book-on-hunter-biden-laptop-biden-family-crimes-available-free-online/Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-truth-central-with-dr-jerome-corsi--5810661/support.
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I'm Corsi and today we have got a very special guest on the program.
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The guest today is Mike McCormick.
Mike has been with us before.
Mike, welcome back!
Thanks, Dr. Corsi!
And Mike's book, which he has behind him, is The Case to Impeach and Imprison Joe Biden.
And we've covered this book on an interview previously, and we're going to get deeper into what Mike knows from his experience in the White House.
There's the cover of the book.
Now, Mike, let's just quickly review your background.
You were a stenographer at the White House, is that correct?
Right.
I was a stenographer for the press office from 2002 to 2018.
And so for most of that time we were contractors.
It wasn't until 2014 that we were put into federal, federalized and turned into employees of the Executive Office of the President.
So most of the time I worked for a court reporting company and we had a contract there.
Um, there was a short span of time from 2007 through 2010 where I was doing something else down in Richmond.
It wasn't sort of a job I tried, didn't work out, came back to the White House.
And I, that's when I started working for Joe Biden.
So I worked as Joe Biden's primary stenographer from 2011 through the end, 2017, January when he left.
And that's when I traveled around the world with him, Ukraine.
We went to Honduras once.
That's what we're going to be talking about.
And so we can dive into, you know, what Joe Biden did on these trips.
That's what I do in the book.
And what I saw, and then afterwards, I came, I left the White House and started writing books.
And it wasn't until I got a hold of the Hunter Biden laptop through Marco Polo.
Garrett Ziegler of Marco Polo gave me a copy of the Hunter Biden laptop in 2021 in the fall.
Then I was able to cross reference What I knew happened on these trips, the timelines, and what was happening in the emails, and the evidence that I put in my book for Joe Biden's impeachment is significant, out of Ukraine.
But also what he did in Honduras, to me, is treason.
That's why he should be imprisoned.
He committed treason down there.
Let's get into the story and the whole way we can Deal with this, because it's going to be a complicated story.
It involves the Vatican, it involves Pope Francis, it involves just the entire Archbishop of Gano and everything going on with Archbishop of Gano.
Now, to start with, let me just start with this following.
Following around the story with Biden in Honduras, and this is going to focus a lot on Honduras, you got into the whole border and immigration issues and all of that, and the Vatican connection which comes out of this, how did you become aware that there was a Vatican connection?
What we're going to be talking about today is Archbishop Vigano, the background has been Now called before by Pope Francis, called before a tribunal of the Vatican to be excommunicated.
He's being excommunicated because he's not faithful, he doesn't accept the authority of President Francis.
He rejects the woke agenda coming into the church.
He does not want to see the church embrace same-sex marriage, the LGBT agenda, and he's accused, I think with good reason, of the Catholic Church, since Vatican II, which goes back to 1962, has been moving in a progressive agenda, embracing this whole woke gender insanity.
And the Juck Hughes was his statement where he accused the Pope of being the heretic and having the schism, not himself.
He says he's representing the true church and Pope Francis is trying to move the church into a woke church.
That's his statement that Archbishop Vigano issued last week in response to the Pope's effort to excommunicate him.
Now the backstory on this and what is emerging Is that a story that Mike has been developing that involves the pedophile priests in the United States.
With.
With.
With Obama.
It's going to be kind of a story.
A lot of people, a lot of documentation, a lot of documentation.
So, Mike, let's start, first of all, explaining who Archbishop McCarrick is.
Chris, get a picture of Archbishop McCarrick, that would be good.
Mike, why don't you give the background?
So, I started writing in my Substack about six weeks ago.
I did a deep dive into Archbishop McCarrick.
I heard someone talking about this, Alex Jones, talking about this oppressive evil that he sensed being directed towards our world right now.
And I thought back of my time in the White House, and I thought, what's the most evil thing that happened?
And I realized it was having Joe Biden's close association with Cardinal Theodore McCarrick.
Theodore McCarrick would always be at Joe Biden's receptions, and he did a lot of work in Washington.
He was popular, too, with the Bush administration when I was there.
So I did a deep dive into what Theodore McCarrick did in the White House by looking into their visitor logs.
And what I came up with was a box of snakes.
Let's stop right there for a minute, because I want to make sure everybody knows who McCarrick is.
Okay, now McCarrick was an archbishop in the United States, and he was an archbishop for a considerable period of time.
And just to pick up his background, he was born in 1930.
Okay, so now he's going to be in his, what, his 90s?
Right.
Okay, and he was a bishop and an archbishop and then a cardinal of the Catholic Church.
He was ordained a priest in 1958, he was in the Archdiocese of New York, became the bishop of a city in New Jersey, then he was the archbishop of Newark, And starting in, he was created Cardinal in February 2001, and he served as the Archbishop of Washington 2001 to 2006.
Now he became accused of, and repeatedly accused, of sexual misconduct towards boys, older boys and seminarians.
He was having sex with adult seminarians.
Now there was a period of time Which may still be going on, where the seminaries of the Catholic Church in the United States were largely breeding grounds of homosexuality.
And if you weren't homosexual, you didn't fit in.
And a cardinal like this, armed with a high position in the Catholic Church, would have his run of the boys in the seminary, as well as the altar boys in the Catholic Church.
A pedophilia scandal Which has been massive, it's gone through now the course of decades, could easily bankrupt the Catholic Church in the United States with all the lawsuits.
But the charges against McCarran got him ultimately removed from being an archbishop and ultimately got him to be stripped of his priesthood, which he is now.
Yet at the same time, In this period of time, 2013, for instance, to 2017, when Biden was vice president and involved with Honduras and the border, McCarrick was a frequent visitor to the White House.
And that's what, Mike, that's what you found by searching the White House visitor logs.
Is that correct?
Yeah, that's correct.
And I would hear Joe Biden talking about McCarrick all the time.
When Joe Biden's son Beau died, Cardinal McCarrick said the Mass up in Wilmington.
So he was very close with the family.
And going back a little bit more in his background, McCarrick came out of the seminary in the early 60s and went to Catholic University and worked there.
And they taught him how to be a fundraiser.
So he came out of that and then he was posted down in Puerto Rico for a couple years.
Then he came back and worked in the diocese in New York.
And through then he became the bishop.
And when he was the He became the Archbishop of Washington in early 2000, and then the Cardinal in Washington in 2001.
He was a big voice comforting the area during the 9-11 era.
Bush leaned on him a lot, and he did a lot of public service.
He was also very skillful at fundraising, and after he was outed as this pedophile Cardinal in 2018, They started doing deep dives into him and he realized that
what he did was he did a lot of fundraising and he would Spend his funds around to other bishops other diocese. So
he was Getting money from donors. You're not sure who and
Spreading it around through, you know gifting other bishops and that gave him a lot of power and
influence and he also had a lot of power and influence with the
media in Washington and with With government officials, especially liberal Democrats. He
was really well liked and he was He was pro-gay marriage.
He was pro-giving communion to politicians who were pro-abortion, which was Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, most of the Democrats, Senator Leahy.
They all were close with McCarrick.
And so his ties into the political establishment, especially the liberal political establishment, were deep and strong.
Well, and again, the Catholics who are progressive, this has been an issue for the Church for some time, because they are embracing LGBTQ.
They don't want to see these, you know, they have sympathy for the alternative lifestyles, because they've gone along with, well, these are just two people who love each other, what's the problem here?
Well, if they love each other, why can't we leave them alone?
And of course, as it progressed into the very aggressive gender transitioning, gender transitioning operations, gender confusion, transvestites doing story hour for children who are even preschool, all of these things now are the advancement of a very aggressive sexual agenda.
And underlying it is a lot of atheism.
Now the Catholics who remain Catholics want the church to move in this direction that they're moving in.
In other words, to support abortion and to support the LGBT lifestyle.
And that clearly Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden, et cetera, they're all in that group.
Okay, now this is a big conflict for the Catholic Church.
This book by Archbishop Vigano, Which is a collection of his essays, and this was published just a few years ago.
Let me see exactly when.
It's called A Voice in the Wilderness.
Archbishop Vigano was also papal nuncio of the United States, the Pope's top representative through many of these years.
This was published in 2021.
All of this book is devoted to McCarrick, and it's a voice decrying sexual deviance, the McCarrick testimony.
And he's talking about the McCarrick report, which came out, which was a report that the Holy See issued on the McCarrick case, making it public, the charges against him, etc.
Now, what Archbishop Vigano says is that McCarrick's report here was a complete revelation of the degree to which the pedophilia had been infiltrated into the Church.
He said, I cannot fail to note the surreal operation of mystification regarding those who are the ones responsible for covering up the scandals of the deposed American Cardinal.
At the same time, I cannot help expressing my indignation at the same accusations of cover-up being made against me, when in fact I repeatedly denounced the inaction of the Holy See in the face of the gravity of the accusations concerning McCarrick's conduct.
An unprejudiced commentator would note, "...the more the suspicious timing of the report's publication, as well as the attempt to throw discredit upon me, accused of disobedience and negligence by those who have every interest in delegitimizing the one who brought to light an unparalleled network of corruption and immorality."
So, Vegano was trying to expose this.
Right.
And he was, in fact, denounced by the Church for doing so, because they did not want it exposed.
The Catholic Church, for a long time, tried to deny that pedophilia and homosexuality was going on.
Okay, now, let's get into the next level of this story, and let's talk about McDonough.
Who is McDonough?
So, Dennis McDonough was named White House Chief of Staff in 2013.
He's a Catholic.
His older brother is a Catholic priest in the St.
Paul Diocese in Minnesota.
His brother was, at the time he was, at the time McDonough was named White House Chief of Staff, his older brother was sort of under a cloud of He was demoted from a high-level assignment to a lower-level assignment because it seemed like there was indications from local police departments that he was not sharing information about pedophile priests in that diocese.
And so because of those complaints, they demoted him out of that position.
So this is the brother of the White House Chief of Staff.
The White House Chief of Staff comes in in 2013.
There he is, Dennis McDonough.
And within months, and he has a meeting shortly after with McCarrick in January 2013.
And then a couple months later is when Pope Benedict retired and there was the election for the new Pope, and that's when McCarrick, there's a video of him working behind the scenes, helped elect Bergoglio as the Pope Francis.
But there's a lot of questions about the election and that's where Bishop Bigano can answer some of that.
I don't know that side of it, but what McCarrick and McDonough did after that was,
after Francis was elected in March, 2013, one of his first acts was to send a letter to Xi Jinping,
a secret letter.
Basically he offered to commit to a better relationship with the Chinese Communist Party headed by Xi Jinping then.
And Xi Jinping sent him a letter back.
That wasn't disclosed for a while.
In June 2013, McCarrick went to China.
This is reported in the Vatican Report.
On the way there, he stopped in and saw Pope Francis, and then he went to China.
McCarrick was no stranger to China.
He'd been traveling back and forth to China.
and to Iran for years.
In the 1990s, as he was a bishop in New Jersey, the State Department put him on some boards and he began traveling internationally.
So he went to China, he went to Iran, and then he would come back to Washington.
That's partly what made him popular with these Washington power brokers when he became the Archbishop there.
Okay, now, there was Monsignor Negri, who in 2017, and there was a lot of WikiLeaks on this.
WikiLeaks was releasing information suggesting that Clinton, specifically Hillary Clinton, Obama and Soros conspired to overthrow Pope Benedict XVI in a Vatican coup.
Okay, because they were, this was when the, this 2013, this is a period of time when these, call it the, you know, the All these orange revolutions and all of these, you know, the Arab Springs, these were the types of things that were begun under the second term of Obama, starting about 2013, going to really about 2018, 2019.
And so they're calling this the Catholic Spring, where they decided they were going to take over, get Pope Benedict XVI, who was conservative, He was very traditional in his views of the liturgy and Catholic faith and Christian faith to get rid of him and put in a pope who was a progressive neo-Marxist woke who would essentially begin destroying the church.
Right now, again, WikiLeaks has quite a lot on this, and it was considered to be a regime change in the Vatican, and recently in the GQs and other things that they...
The new preface that Archbishop Vigano has written for my book on the JFK assassination with David Mantic, he makes it clear that there's a deep church that wants to destroy the church and has been taken over by Satan.
And I will read some of that as we go along.
Archbishop Vigano has picked up on this.
And in fact, is following what Mike has been doing and saying, and it is going to support the Archbishop's claim that the heresy, this gism, is really within Pope Francis, and charging that this coup d'etat, as it were, within the church that occurred, was a deliberate attempt to get Vatican II, the woke agenda, All of the LGBT agenda, transgenderism included, to be accepted by the Catholic faithful and to be promoted by the Pope.
For the very early on, Pope Francis would signal out that he did not really object to same-sex marriage.
Let's continue with the story.
So now, McDonough's brother, who is a priest, is also Was there anything that you know in terms of, was he involved in the pedophilia, or was he just simply his brother?
Is there any indication of that?
I just understand that he was demoted because he was part of a cover-up there, and the Diocese demoted him.
Okay.
Now, McCarrick begins to communicate with China, and Pope Francis begins to communicate with Xi Jinping, just as he's taking over.
And they're saying they want to have a closer relationship with China.
China has been known to have been suppressing Christians for decades, killing Christians.
There have been Christian groups that have been smuggling Bibles into China.
And of course, the people could risk their lives professing to be Christians.
Now, what was the specific agenda that McCarrick wanted to advance with Xi Jinping?
Well, so McCarrick went there in June.
McCarrick, and at this point in time in the White House, there was a big shift coming behind the scenes.
Biden's, one of Biden's primary operatives from deep, from way back in his career was a guy named Tom Donilon.
Tom Donilon was then the The National Security Advisor.
He was very close to China, and he was the reason Joe Biden got named as the special... He was named to have a special relationship with Xi Jinping, who was vice president.
So Joe Biden and Xi Jinping started a special relationship together in 2011, when they were both vice presidents.
Well, in 2013, in June, after Pope Francis has come in in March.
The same time in March of 2013, Xi Jinping is elevated from being the Vice President of China to being the President.
So they're both at the top of their respective organizations.
In June, July, Donalyn leaves.
Donalyn was did his college studies at Catholic University. He's a deep
state guy, very deep state. He's in the Aspen Institute, all these deep state things. He's now
Black Rocks man in China. He basically went from being the national security advisor to being
Black Rocks man in China. He's a deep state globalist. And a Catholic. And a Catholic.
So that's... I believe he went to LaSalle.
I think he attended LaSalle Academy Catholic School in Providence, Rhode Island.
He got a BA degree, summa cum laude, 1977.
And so he's a Catholic.
Yeah.
And then he had something to do with Catholic University, too.
And then, uh, so he goes over to China.
So he leaves the White House and, um, Susan Rice come, comes in as national security, Susan Rice, national security advisor.
Yes.
Yeah.
Susan Rice.
Yeah.
So, um, at this point that's June.
So Joe Biden goes over for a big meeting with Xi Jinping in December, 2013.
And it goes long.
There's a lot of very strange things that come out of that meeting.
Hunter Biden is basically bought and sold by the Chinese Communist Party during that meeting with a big deal.
Joe Biden starts a deal and there's also a kickback scheme with this metabiotic organization that was a part of the virus research going on in China then with EcoHealth Alliance and with The Wuhan Institute of Virology.
So this all comes out of this meeting.
And then as Joe Biden returns from that meeting, McCarrick goes over to his Naval Observatory residence for a holiday party.
So I think there was a big meeting between McCarrick and Biden in 2013 at that residence.
In 2014, McCarrick starts another meeting with McDonough in January and this is when things start picking up with their next agenda.
So there's two things that are going on in the Obama-Biden White House agenda in 2014 that involve the Vatican very closely and involve McCarrick.
One is they're trying to put together behind the scenes the Iran nuclear deal.
And the other thing is they're starting to look at migration, a liberalization of migration.
When Pope Francis came in, he was the liberalization of migration pope.
He was praying for migrants who were coming up from Africa and having problems coming across the water in rickety boats.
So he became the sort of voice for the impoverished people of the world coming to the, you know, the Western economies and being welcomed in.
It's, you know, the empathy, the empathy, the empathy aspect of that.
And so that's what became this outreach to Honduras in the spring of 2014.
So we can talk about Iran, what they did with Iran, or we can talk about, you know, Honduras.
First we're going to talk a little bit more about China.
I want to get this really out there about China.
The whole issue with China is that the deal Pope Francis made was not a deal that benefited the Christians, the true Catholics or Christians, in China.
I mean, essentially, Xi Jinping allowed essentially a woke group of priests to be able to operate in China as long as they were woke.
But they did not open China in a way to really advance Christianity according to traditional Christianity.
And so therefore, again, this woke agenda is part of the McCarrick And Biden missioned to China, and it again is advancing the extreme left's agenda.
And Evagano writes about that.
I'm going to try to find it here in his Jacuzzi document, because he's very concerned about China in this document.
And I want to cover just a little bit more about what he said.
In here, as I can find it, hold on, just I'm looking through the document right now, quickly get it, but as I recall what he said was that, again, that Bergoglio, which was Pope Francis, agenda was not to advance the faith, but it was to advance a liberal agenda, this woke agenda, and to read Christianity into the woke agenda.
Okay, so again, that's been part of Vatican II.
Vatican II wanted to bring the church into communication with the faithful, and to have it be gay-friendly, eco-sustainable.
For instance, what Pregano writes in this Jacuzzi document is a defense of the church trying to excommunicate them.
He said the adepts of the counselor church will reply that this is due to the unnecessary renewal that's going on in the church, but the fact is that the Catholic Magisterium, which is the infallible teachings of the Catholic Church, is that truth is immutable, and the doctrine of evolution of dogmas is heretical.
Two churches, each with its own doctrines, liturgies, and saints, but whereas For the Catholic believer, the Church is really Catholic and apostolic.
For Bergoglio, the Church is councillor, ecumenical, synodal, inclusive, immigrationist, eco-sustainable, and gay-friendly.
He's objecting that the Church cannot teach error, and if it does so, it is a heresy on the part of the Pope himself.
Okay, so I wanted to get that straight, because again, that's the theological issue that is at stake here.
And the objection for Archbishop Vigano to this whole McCarrick-Biden effort with China is that they're trying to make the church in China a woke church, and they're trying to persecute the traditional Christians whose faith comes directly from the Bible.
Okay, and so this is again a major sub-theme here of the entire issue.
In other words, what we're saying is that once we fully establish what we're talking about here with McCarrick, the pedophilia, pedophilia in the church, and Joe Biden, and Biden's questionable relationship with young girls, including having showers with his daughter, All these issues, putting pedophilia and sexual abuse of children as to be one of the underlying themes here that Vigano is saying has corrupted the church, has corrupted the government of the United States, and had led to a decision to have a deep church
Well, and so that was 2013.
against Benjamin VI to replace him with Pope Francis.
And that church, that coup was led by Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama and Soros,
and Joe Biden was an operative in getting it done.
That's the story.
Mike, comment?
Well, and so that was 2013.
My sense of what the Obama-Biden people were doing with Xi Jinping and McCarrick
and the Vatican.
For Obama and Biden, they were appeasing Xi Jinping, especially Biden.
Biden had this special relationship with him as a vice president and brags about it to this day.
And yet he was the Manchurian candidate.
And we know that because Hunter was getting money from him and Joe Biden, I've covered that in my sub stack.
Joe Biden had all these meetings with China as Hunter was filling his pockets with their money.
So China knew they had Joe Biden bought.
But what they wanted was they wanted to get the church and the religious people in China were the freedom fighters.
They were the underground people who were proponents of democracy.
They were the biggest threat that Xi faced to his total domination power.
And so they wanted to find out who they were.
And so they wanted to do a deal with the Vatican and they wanted to do this, you know, put these woke bishops in charge In the church in China and the traditional Catholics they were like no we don't want this and so the from 2013 through 2015 I believe it kind of went quiet what the Vatican was doing with China went quiet and they were focusing on other things they were focusing on the immigration and they were focusing on the Iran nuclear deal and that's what so briefly in March 2014
Obama went to the Vatican, and he met with Francis, and they talked for a while, just one-on-one, and Obama's comment on it was, we had wide-ranging talks.
Within a month, so in early May of 2014, McCarrick goes to Iran.
He goes straight to Iran and starts talking the Ayatollahs.
And McCarrick had a bit of a history with Iran.
He had gone to Iran Back in the early 2000s, there were some hikers that wandered over the border and they were arrested.
They were thought to be CIA spies and they were imprisoned.
There was a lot of back and forth in the media about what's going to happen with these poor innocent hikers.
It was McCarrick who eventually went over there and got them back.
he was part of a delegation that did that. So he had contacts in Iran, he had gone back and forth
sort of liberalizing the contact between the Muslim world and the western, you know, religious
world, Judeo-Christian world, and that's what, you know, they sort of was a cover story for this
outreach to Iran. But behind the scenes they were promoting the Iran nuclear deal. And so
shortly after he comes back from that trip to Iran with the Ayatollahs, he and Pope Francis
together go to the Holy Land, which is Israel, the West Bank, and they went to Bethlehem,
and they went to Jordan, and they met with the proponents of the people who were in sort of
opposition to any Iran nuclear deal.
In Israel, they talked to the liberal Israelis, not Benjamin Netanyahu.
Netanyahu wasn't crazy about this trip.
So, it was very significant.
They come back in late May, and on June 6, 2014, there's a meeting with McCarrick and Dennis McDonough, once again, in the White House.
And this is the beginning, then, of, they go from, you know, also working on the Iran nuclear deal, to working on this immigration policy along the southern border with Honduras.
Okay, let's get a little bit more into Honduras and who is the head of Honduras at this time?
So, a guy named Juan Orlando Hernandez was elected the president of Honduras in December 2013.
He took office in January 2014.
In February of 2014, the Drug Enforcement Administration in Honduras had his brother on tape, on electronic surveillance, Talking about how they were smuggling cocaine into the United States and they would be doing it through the government.
His brother was part of it.
So the DEA has this official, I mean they've got electronic surveillance.
The brother was then a congressman in Honduras.
So this is the DEA with physical evidence of a high-level drug cartel being run out of the government.
And it later, so they know this.
I believe that The Obama-Biden White House would have been told about this as they're moving forward into what happened was in June 2014.
All of a sudden, all these minors, these young kids start showing up at the southern border, Texas and Arizona, with no parents.
And they say, we got to come across.
And they enter illegally.
And because they're minors, They didn't know what to do with them.
So this is when they built the cages for the kids.
This is the Obama administration's answer.
So there's an unaccompanied minor crisis.
They're coming to the border.
Over the course of the summer, 50,000 kids, unaccompanied minors, show up at the southern border.
And they get brought in illegally and sort of run through the system.
In June, late June 2014, Joe Biden gets a phone call Hey, we're going to come down and I'm going to Guatemala.
Why don't you meet me in Guatemala?
We're going to have a meeting there about how to solve this unaccompanied minor crisis.
Okay, so they have a meeting down there with the leaders of El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras.
These are called the Northern Triangle countries.
Joe Biden comes back from that and invites and has them invited to come to see Obama in the White House in late July, July 27th.
I think no, July 25th, 2014.
There's a big meeting with Obama and there's a very significant photo taken at that time with Joe Biden and Juan Orlando Hernandez having a warm handshake in the Roosevelt Room.
Days after that, a week after that, McCarrick starts coming into the White House and meeting with McDonough in his office three times in August.
I don't remember the exact dates off the top of my head, but they're a week apart.
He has a meeting a week apart, like August 8th, August 17th, and August 26th or something.
And so they have these meetings, and to me, this tells me that they are planning Using the Catholic Church as part of this Alliance for Prosperity outreach.
They want to liberalize immigration, they want to resolve this thing, and they're going to use the Catholic Church as part of it.
Does the Pope know about this?
McCarrick is the Pope's envoy into Iran at the time.
Was he also his envoy into the White House to talk about liberalizing immigration along the southern border with what becomes the Alliance for Prosperity?
That gets announced by Joe Biden in November of 2014.
After the 2014 midterm elections, shift power away from the Democrats and fully into the Republicans in the Congress.
They now have taken over the Senate and they have the House.
So at that point in time, the Democrats are only in power in the White House.
Obama is a lame duck president, and the power shift goes into Congress.
That's good for Joe Biden, because that's Orlando Hernandez and Joe Biden talking to each other.
And that looks like probably 2014-2015.
So they announced this thing.
$500 million is what the Alliance for Prosperity paid specifically to Juan Orlando Hernandez and his government.
And where did they get that money?
That money comes from the taxpayers.
It was run through Congress.
It was laundered through Congress.
So, that's Juan Orlando Hernandez.
It looks like he's... That's Pence.
He's talking to Mike Pence, it looks like.
So, Orlando Hernandez is, at the time, also working very closely with the American General of South... Southern Command, who is John F. Kelly.
General John F. Kelly of the Marine Corps is the General of Southern Command.
He is very close with this guy, Orlando Hernandez.
The White House and the government knows, the intelligence knows, that these guys are smuggling drugs into America by the ton.
They know they're in line with the Sinaloa cartel.
The Sinaloa cartel gave Juan Orlando Hernandez a million-dollar campaign contribution in 2013 to become president.
They know this, and yet they're giving him $500 million.
And McCarrick is part of that process.
McCarrick is basically putting the Catholic Church into the process Of aligning itself with cartels to set up a liberalized immigration process.
They're going to use the cartels to bring drugs across the border and human trafficking.
That's what they've been doing on the southern border since Joe Biden took over as president.
Yeah, now McCarrick was really not dismissed from the clerical state until 2019.
until 2019.
2018 was the New York Times really broke the story with the pattern of sexual abuse
of male seminarians and minors.
So, in this period of time, Archbishop McCarrick was not yet outed for what he had been doing.
Now, it was not just running drugs, but in your book, and I'll hold it up here behind you, this is the book that you wrote on the case to impeach and imprison Joe Biden.
Right.
You cite on page 308 and 309 that there was a Cecilia Vega of ABC News who posed a question Specifically about a young boy from Honduras that she had interviewed at the border in Texas.
Vega was a political reporter during Biden's Alliance for Prosperity time and would have known about it.
Right.
And this was during his very first presidential press conference in March 2021.
So Cecilia Vega is asking him because all of a sudden, as soon as Joe Biden comes over, he welcomes all these people over the border and they start showing up and the press has to ask about him.
And that's her question.
And we also know about the arrest, conviction, and impending sentencing of Hernandez.
Now, what was the specific crime that Hernandez committed?
So that arrest and conviction and sentencing was for Tony Hernandez.
That is the brother who was caught on tape in 2014.
The congressman.
Not the president, but the congressman.
And what was he doing?
He was part of the conspiracy to smuggle drugs.
He was part of the gang and he was arrested in 2018 after he was arrested by Trump after the 2018 midterm elections.
The Hondurans, there was these cartels, these migrant caravans came up from Honduras and disrupted things along the border as the election was underway, as the campaigning was underway.
So that became a big campaign process.
That's when Ocasio-Cortez went down to the border and started crying at the fence.
Well, it was all made up stuff by the Democrats, and it was made up to make Donald Trump look bad,
and was made up with the help of this Orlando Hernandez presidency.
Well, his brother, as soon as the power shifted back to the Democrats in the House in 2018,
Trump went in, he arrested Tony Hernandez, the Congressman, and he fired John Kelly,
White House Chief of Staff John Kelly.
And so John Kelly is kind of a bad guy in the background of the Trump administration
for having been so closely aligned with this guy, Hernandez.
So Hernandez gets arrested.
In 2019, he's sentenced.
He's convicted in October 2019.
And in March of 2019, March 2021 he's sentenced.
So Joe Biden has his first press conference just a few days before he's sentenced.
He's been sentenced to decades in prison and he has to pay like a hundred million dollars in fines.
So it was a pretty serious sentence and the the outcome of the trial is basically they said Juan Orlando Hernandez Was also in this gang.
And this is when, and one of the witnesses in that Tony Hernandez trial was El Chapo, the head of the Sinaloa cartel.
And so this all took place because President Trump had them arrested.
He went around the Biden control of these Hondurans.
And so what happened was as soon as Biden came in, Orlando Hernandez was still the president of Honduras.
He was still smuggling drugs in the country by the ton.
But his term ended in February 2022.
As soon as his term ended, Biden had him arrested.
So he's been arrested by Biden.
He's been convicted by Biden.
He was convicted in March of this year, 2014.
I'm sorry, 2024.
And he was just sentenced last week.
So just before this disastrous debate that Joe Biden had, Juan Orlando Hernandez was sentenced to 45 years in jail.
And he came out through the process, through the sentencing, he smuggled over his career from 2004 to 2022, 400 tons of cocaine into the United States.
400 tons of cocaine in the United States.
Okay, now there's also another aspect to this I want to cover, because here was Vega's question.
She was talking about this boy that she had interviewed at the border, And she said, his mother says that he sent, she sent her son to this country because she believes that you are, Biden, you are not deporting unaccompanied minors like her son.
That's why she sent him alone from Honduras.
So sir, you're blamed the last administration, but is your messaging in saying that these children are and will be allowed to stay in the country and work their way through this process, urging states like yourselves to come and stay?
I'm going to say my child ends up in the brewery.
We're just going to let him starve to death and stay in the other stocks.
No previous administration did that either except Trump.
I'm not going to do I'm not going to do it.
I asked the Vice President yesterday to be the lead on dealing with focusing on the fundamentals of why people come here, why they leave Honduras, Guadalajara, El Salvador in the first place.
Okay, so now what we're saying is that he's going to come into the country unaccompanied.
Yeah.
And he's going to walk them through the process.
The unaccompanied children coming across in the border have been a phenomenon that have not been dealt with by the Biden administration.
In terms of what happens to these children is that they're ready targets for sex slavery.
They may already be in sex slavery.
They have to report to someone, whatever they have to do.
But the unaccompanied minors and the pedophilia that is potential coming out of that is another one of the Big reasons that you've got a situation and structure here of pedophilia being an underlying theme of all this activity.
Okay, and whether it's with whether it's Xi Jinping in China, you know, the whole idea of sex trade, whether it's the McCarrick and his involvement with homosexuality, with Pope Francis and his attempt to communicate Archbishop Vigano, because Archbishop Vigano does not approve of the synods accepting of LGBT and letting that become doctrine of the Catholic Church.
So this battle has drugs and pedophilia at the center of it and opening the border at the center of it in a strategy that Biden was putting into place and wanting to put into place, I think basically that when Trump came in, it disrupted the plans that were going forward since 2013-2014 to work with Honduras, work with the drug cartels, open the border, get free passage for drugs, free passage for pedophilia, and Obama at the center of it, coordinating it.
And Soros, I'm sure, in the background.
So, what I'm saying is that this corruption is deep, and it involves the Catholic Church deeply, and it's one of the reasons why Vigano is utilizing and saying that this whole, what Mike knows, what Mike has revealed about McCarrick, is further evidence of the corruption of Pope Francis.
So, Mike, you want to pick up and comment from there?
Yeah, so I started writing this in Substack back in... And what is your Substack?
Substack is Midnight in the Laptop of Good and Evil.
And the Substacks I wrote on this are in the archive.
You can get to the archive with $8.
It's an $8 monthly fee.
It's a good deal.
You can read all through the archives.
And there's a lot in there about So I started writing about this in early April and the first one I wrote I literally did not understand what I was looking at.
I was working my way through it.
I knew once I saw these visits by McCarrick into McDonough's office in August of 2014 that they were working on the Alliance for Prosperity.
And I knew that's what this was.
I didn't understand what was happening with China or with the Iran nuclear deal until I wrote those sub stacks.
But this clearly says McDonough has the answers to what was going on.
So I wrote, I sent him an email.
He's the Secretary of Veterans Affairs.
Through their Veterans Affairs office I sent him an email.
Have not heard back.
But I emailed him and said, did you know at the time that you had McCarrick coming into your office, Did you know that the Honduran government was led by Juan Orlando Hernandez, was aligned with cartels, was smuggling drugs into the United States by the ton?
Did you guys know that?
And that's the big question.
Did they know it?
Because their DEA certainly did.
So I believe their Southern Command leader, General John Kelly, knew it.
And I believe the Obama White House knew it, and they would have been told that by the DEA and by their intelligence people.
State Department people would have told them that.
So that's all what I've written in my book, is sort of the deep dive into that Honduras crime and cartel association.
And then pops, you know, Cardinal McCarrick is part of this.
He's been working the church into it.
This is evil.
This is the Catholic Church led by Cardinal McCarrick.
Is he working specifically on behalf of Pope Francis at the time?
Did Pope Francis know the Catholic Church was putting itself in a side-by-side deal with the cartels, drug dealing, and child abuse?
You know, human trafficking, cartels.
Did he know that?
And if he did, then he's not doing God's work.
And Bishop Pagano is 100% correct to call him out for being the anti-Pope.
Well, and also Pagano is calling out McCarrick and continues to call out McCarrick.
And in his numerous writings, he is making it clear the disgrace to the church.
that was involved with the homosexuality and the pedophilia.
And he writes in the book on an essay, as I said, there's considerable writing in Bishop Vigano's collection of essays on McCarrick.
And he writes, to restore the beauty of the holiness of the faith of the bride of Christ, which is terribly disfigured by so many abominable crimes, And if we truly want to free the Church from the fetid swamp into which she has fallen, we must have the courage to tear down the culture of secrecy and publicly confess the truths we have kept hidden.
Let's tear down the conspiracy of silence which the bishops and priests have protected themselves at the expense of their faithful.
The conspiracy of silence in the eyes of the world risks making the Church look like a sect Conspiracy of silence not so dissimilar from the one that prevails in the mafia.
And he said, I've always believed and hope that the hierarchy of the church could find within
itself the spiritual resources and strength to tell the whole truth, to amend it and to renew
itself. That is why, even though I've been repeatedly asked to do so, I have always avoided
making statements to the media, even when it had been my right to do so, in order to defend myself
against the calumnies published about me, even by high-ranking prelates of the Roman Curia.
But now that the corruption has reached the very top of the Church's hierarchy, My conscience dictates that I reveal those truths regarding the heartbreaking case of the Archbishop Emeritus of Washington, D.C., Theodore McCarrick, whom I came to know in the course of duties entrusted to me by St.
John Paul II as Delegate for Pontifical Representations from 1998 to 2009, by Pope Benedict XVI as Apostolic Nuncio to the United States of America from October 19th, 2011 until the end of May 2016.
So the case is very strong here of the corruption of the woke in Deep State and Deep Church.
And what we're trying to point out here is that Deep State and Deep Church have been working together.
And the usual crimes of opening borders with abandonment I'm sure the CIA participating in drugs, intelligence agencies, along with the cartels, along with the banks, drugs and pedophilia, these are horrendous crimes.
And that they occur not only in the Vatican at the highest office of the Pope Francis office and the offices of President Obama and President Biden, is a massive disgrace, and it needs to be revealed.
Mike, we thank you for bringing this forward, and I know you're in touch with the Archbishop, and the Archbishop is following what you're doing, and I'm following it, and we'll continue to follow the story and see where it goes.
So, any concluding comments here, Mike, before we wrap up?
Well, I appreciate you having me back on, and I appreciate very deeply Archbishop Pagano getting in touch with me.
We email.
We'll continue to do that.
He follows me on Twitter.
So if you want to follow me on Twitter, I'm at at Joe Unauthorized.
At Joe Unauthorized.
Or you can do my sub stack, Midnight in the Laptop of Good and Evil.
I'll have a lot more reporting on this.
Also, my book is a good way to get the real deep background dive into this treason.
This is treason.
Joe Biden was giving aid and comfort to our enemies, the cartels, and he just arrested the guy he was giving money to, and no one in the media talks about it.
You're not hearing a peep out of this.
You know, this huge meltdown he had at the debate he had with former President Trump the other night,
that came the day after this Juan Orlando Hernandez was sentenced.
There was no reporting on the sentencing that really hit the big waves.
There were some news reports on it, and that was it.
Came and went.
And I'm not sure if they weren't connected.
You know, it might have been they set up that debate and timed it so that he could overwhelm
the story about this guy who he had to arrest because he was smuggling so much drugs and
other things into this country.
Bye.
Well, this is going to be much of a continuing story.
You can follow Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano at Carlo M. Vigano, C-A-R-L-O, the middle initial M-V-I-G-A-N-O, Carlo M. Vigano, at Carlo M. Vigano.
And we encourage you to do so.
I think the Archbishop Vigano is one of the strongest moral voices right now out there.
And you can see if you follow him that Mike is posting on things and his posts will show up in the threads with the Archbishop.
And the Archbishop is very aware of what reporting that Mike is doing.
It's extremely interesting, Mike, because you started out all of this without a strong political orientation.
I mean, you were a stenographer, and you were there to record what was said, but you did not enter this with a liking or an inclination towards politics.
Is that correct?
Yeah.
You know, I was a fly on the wall in the White House for a span of 16 years.
I always thought the best of them and it wasn't until after the election steal of 2020 and then I got my hands on the Hunter Biden laptop that I really started to understand the terrible things that were being done to our country by our politicians and now by our Bishops and cardinals, and the revelations are astonishing.
We just have to bring sunlight to it.
And you know, I write this back and forth to Archbishop Pagano.
He's telling the truth, and the truth is the Word of God.
And that's all we're doing, is we're sharing the Word of God by sharing the truth about these terrible crimes.
So God's on our side.
Thank you very much, Mike.
I really appreciate it.
Dr. Jerome Corsi, TheTruthCentral.com.
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