June 19, 2024 - The Truth Central - Dr. Jerome Corsi
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What Really Happened at the Hunter Biden Trial From Someone Who Was There - with Mike McCormick
While most people were only able to hear what the press told them about what happened at the Hunter Biden gun trial, Mike McCormick was there and tells Dr. Jerome Corsi what happened on today's The Truth CentralMcCormick, the former stenographer for then-Vice President Joe Biden, attended the Hunter Biden trial. He reveals what happened during the proceedings, witness testimony from Hallie Biden and others, the lawyers' conduct, an interesting bathroom run-in, another Biden relative's intriguing presence and more.Mike McCormick is the author of The Case to Impeach and Imprison Joe Biden. Get it here: https://www.amazon.com/Case-Impeach-Imprison-Joe-Biden/dp/B0CQRKXVFHIf you like what we are doing, please support our Sponsors:Get RX Meds Now: https://www.getrxmedsnow.comMyVitalC https://www.thetruthcentral.com/myvitalc-ess60-in-organic-olive-oil/Swiss America: https://www.swissamerica.com/offer/CorsiRMP.phpGet Dr. Corsi's new book, The Assassination of President John F. Kennedy: The Final Analysis: Forensic Analysis of the JFK Autopsy X-Rays Proves Two Headshots from the Right Front and One from the Rear, here: https://www.amazon.com/Assassination-President-John-Kennedy-Headshots/dp/B0CXLN1PX1/ref=sr_1_1?crid=20W8UDU55IGJJ&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.ymVX8y9V--_ztRoswluApKEN-WlqxoqrowcQP34CE3HdXRudvQJnTLmYKMMfv0gMYwaTTk_Ne3ssid8YroEAFg.e8i1TLonh9QRzDTIJSmDqJHrmMTVKBhCL7iTARroSzQ&dib_tag=se&keywords=jerome+r.+corsi+%2B+jfk&qid=1710126183&sprefix=%2Caps%2C275&sr=8-1Join Dr. Jerome Corsi on Substack: https://jeromecorsiphd.substack.com/Visit The Truth Central website: https://www.thetruthcentral.comGet your FREE copy of Dr. Corsi's new book with Swiss America CEO Dean Heskin, How the Coming Global Crash Will Create a Historic Gold Rush by calling: 800-519-6268Follow Dr. Jerome Corsi on X: @corsijerome1Our link to where to get the Marco Polo 650-Page Book on the Hunter Biden laptop & Biden family crimes free online:https://www.thetruthcentral.com/marco-polo-publishes-650-page-book-on-hunter-biden-laptop-biden-family-crimes-available-free-online/Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-truth-central-with-dr-jerome-corsi--5810661/support.
We've got a guest with us today, another very special guest.
He's been back with us before.
This is Dr. Jerome Corse, this is at the Deep Truth, DeepTruthCentral.com.
Thank you for joining us.
We're doing podcasts every weekday.
We have got a guest with us today, another very special guest.
He's been back with us before.
It's Mike McCormick.
Mike, welcome.
Thanks, Dr. Corsi.
How are you doing?
Good.
Mike is the author of The Case to Impeach and Imprison Joe Biden.
Chris, you'll show that on the screen, please.
It's a very good book.
We featured it before because what Mike has done in this book is to detail the Biden crime family bribery schemes.
And he's done an excellent job of tracing the material that comes out of the laptop and putting it together so that it's easy to understand and easy to follow.
And again, I think it's going to be a really solidly recommended to anyone because these are going to be issues that are not going to go away during a presidential campaign.
And it's extremely important to ask why the Department of Justice is not In doing anything to investigate or indict either Hunter Biden or Joe Biden for selling the United States, essentially taking money from foreign countries and influencing policy with the big guy in the background, always willing to come on a phone call, let everybody know he supports their cause.
So it's oligarchs of the world who want to buy U.S.
public policy apply here.
Is that about summarize it, Mike?
That's exactly right.
Yep.
And now the special point that we're going to do today, we've done one already podcast on the book itself, but Mike has just returned from attending the Hunter Biden trial.
And I want to focus today on the Hunter Biden trial and things that Mike learned from being at the trial.
Now, Mike, first of all, why don't you set the stage?
Let's make sure everybody knows what Hunter was indicted for.
What were the charges and what was the trial about?
Let's start there.
Well, the trial was about Hunter in October 2018, bought a gun while he was a drug addict.
He was addicted to crack cocaine.
And he signed a form in the purchase of that.
It was in a Wilmington gun shop.
He signed a form that's part of the process to buy a gun, and he checked off a box saying, no, he wasn't a drug addict.
And so that was the main charge, falsifying that form.
And then there was a couple other charges.
There was three charges in all.
And they had to all do with the fact that he falsified the form and owned and possessed this gun as a drug addict.
And the evidence that they used, that the prosecutors used, was all mostly derived from the laptop.
All of his texts and emails and videos that he took of him walking around with a gun, talking to people about his gun, just the day that the gun was found and disposed of by his lover, his brother's widow, Hallie Biden.
Um, she's the one that threw the gun in the trash and then told him he had a panic attack, said you have to go get that.
She couldn't find it.
She went back to the store and it was gone.
Somebody had retrieved it from the garbage can, some sort of scavenger guy.
And so then he said, you have to have a police report.
So the police were called in and police were witnesses about, yeah, we were called in.
There was a stolen gun report.
Hunter Biden reported his gun stolen.
So it was a slam dunk case with the evidence.
But the question was, was Hunter Biden going to actually pay the price of breaking the law in Wilmington, Delaware, where his father's basically run the town for 50 years?
Right.
So, I mean, the case was pretty much open and closed.
I mean, the evidence was earning it.
So at the trial, so these are the allegations.
What happens at the trial?
What's your experience of showing up at the trial?
So I went to the trial the day after they picked the jury, and I didn't actually go in the trial.
I was up just there sort of scoping out the lay of the land and talking to a lot of, there was a lot of White House media there.
There was a lot of media there early on, and it grew and grew.
By the end of the trial, It was a pretty full-blown media contingent up there with round-the-clock coverage.
So I talked to some old contacts I had in the Washington media.
Guys in Reuters, still photographers, guys at NBC, people at NBC.
Then the next time I went up, I went three times, I went up for Hallie Biden's testimony because I knew that was gonna be significant.
And I had traveled abroad as a stenographer when I worked for Joe Biden.
I traveled in Air Force Two with Hallie Biden and her two kids in 2016.
She went on a trip Biden took to Israel and the Middle East.
And that was about a year after her husband had died.
Well, by then she was already secretly having an affair with Hunter.
And so I wanted to hear her testament, and then I went up for the final day when the jury came back, and that was the big shock.
Well, make sure everybody remembers the context.
You were Joe Biden's White House stenographer.
You traveled with him to Ukraine and Honduras, many other countries.
And that your job was an official White House job, where you were recording what was said in various meetings, and you had an up-close opportunity to examine Biden and everybody he was associating with that you were in the meetings to record.
And that gave you an insider's view of what was going on, and the ability to observe and learn much more than I'm sure you were admitting you observed and learned.
Right.
When did you get the feeling that the Bidens were not on the up and up altogether in this White House duty that you did?
Yeah, in the White House duty I did, it was not just for Joe Biden.
I also worked for Vice President Cheney in the Bush years, and I worked for Vice President Pence in the Trump years.
So, you know, I had about 16, a span of 16 years in the White House.
So the Bidens fit in the middle of it.
I got the feeling very early on that what Joe Biden was doing was goofy and stupid, but I didn't get the sense.
I was at that point in time leaning on the press to be the investigators, and they let everything slide with him.
You know, I traveled with him I traveled with Joe to Ukraine in 2014 before the big announcement that Hunter was on the board of Burisma.
The news came out.
I was in the briefing room when the news came out, and there was a bit of a kerfluffle over it, and then it was over.
And I was like, well, if that's what the press thinks, then he must be okay.
You know, and Joe Biden used to talk about, well, there's a firewall between me and my son's business.
I never do it.
And everybody believed him.
They let it slide.
But once we got a hold of the laptop, and this is where the trial was so important, because the prosecutors use that laptop as their evidence to bring Hunter to justice.
Once that laptop was validated by that trial, then all the deniers had to face up and say, well, I guess what's in the laptop is real.
I knew the laptop was real the second I saw it, because I'm in the laptop.
If you type my name, and I don't mean by the photos, I told this the other day, they were laughing because I was in the photos, but the transcripts that I typed were passed around between the Biden family.
I would type a transcript and then email it to the Biden communication staff and then they would email it if it was important to the Biden family.
So I would recognize my typing and say, oh yeah, I remember that transcript, I remember that transcript.
And then there's two times when I forgot to send it out on the blind copy line and I put it on a line that has my name recognizable and all the names of the other people on it.
So it was exactly the way I would have sent it out.
And the transcripts that are there are exactly what I would have put.
So people were saying, oh, this is Russia's disinformation.
This is a Russian plant.
It couldn't possibly have been, because I recognize it as my work product.
How would anybody duplicate that?
So it was always validated to me.
But this trial is what validated it to the press that were standing around.
And they're still having a hard time swallowing it.
So what, um, talking to the press, let's get some of the impressions that you got from the press.
What, and what were the kinds of things you learned with talking with the press and interviewing them?
Well, one, uh, one, uh, one day I was standing in line in one of the, um, NBC correspondent, a woman, I don't remember her name.
She was a White House correspondent during the Trump years and NBC years.
She said that she really liked working the Trump years for NBC because it was so easy to get information because they were so disjointed.
They were so sort of, you know, They weren't really put together.
They didn't have a strong message.
She said now covering them is a lot harder because their message discipline is much stronger.
And she said Biden right now is impossible to get news out of because their message discipline is so strong.
So, you know, it was fun to be a journalist in the Trump, early Trump years.
We'll see what happens this time.
Okay.
In other words, the, in the Trump years, when she talked to the people in the Trump administration, they were just telling her the truth, what they thought.
It wasn't filtered by, here's your talking points, and these are the things you're permitted to say.
But in the Biden years, the talking points dominated.
Is that the difference?
Yeah, and the thing was, in the early Trump years, there was a lot of behind-the-back stabbing going on in the early Trump years.
And the press made hay with that.
I worked in that White House for a year.
I knew what was going on.
There were people saying stuff behind his back that was shocking to me.
So there was a lot of leaks.
That's when the whole...
In other words, they weren't loyal to Trump.
of that White House. So that's the kind of stuff the press loves. So another thing that I talked
with, I talked with... In other words, they weren't loyal to Trump. The people in the White House were
really not working for him, they were working against him.
Right.
Deep state people inserted into the administration to work against him.
And they were looking for opportunities that could produce embarrassing material or a story that would go counter to the administration's wishes, counter to what Trump wanted to accomplish, undermining Trump.
Is that?
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah.
Whereas in the Biden administration, it was all discipline.
The people who were on board were deep state and they were involved with Biden.
Is that the difference?
They never see him.
The press never sees Biden, like compared to Trump.
Trump was very approachable to the press.
And as someone who worked in three White Houses, he was massively approachable compared to previous presidents I worked for.
So, I mean, there's that.
So, I also took my book up there and I was showing it to people.
I showed it to David Nakamura.
He still covers the White House and the Washington Post.
He and I traveled together on a pretty significant trip that Joe Biden took to Beijing in 2013.
This is the trip that Hunter Biden was on.
And I said, David, this was a bad trip.
There was a lot of stuff that happened on that trip.
He goes, I know.
There was a lot of bad stuff that happened on that.
And he had read my book.
He said, I read your book.
I was talking about it the other day with somebody.
And so he's read my book.
He knows sort of where I'm coming from.
He personally is sitting on a story.
That he doesn't want to talk about in the story.
We you and I have talked about this story was the 2013 trip to Beijing is where this investment by the Bidens came out into this metabiotic corruption.
And that was the biotech that that was the pandemic predictor.
And so that's that's something that if David is talking about knowing but not reporting on is pretty significant to me.
Well, they don't want to report anything that is negative to Biden.
Exactly.
So they suppress that information.
Yeah.
And then I talked to a guy at NBC News, Mike Mimoli.
He's considered in the press corps, like he's a very close associate.
He's been closely associated with Biden's camp since the vice president years.
I've traveled with him a couple of times.
And actually he pointed out to something in my book that was a mistake.
He said, look, you have me sitting in the back of Air Force Two on this trip into Turkey.
He said, I never went into Turkey on Air Force Two.
And I was like, you sure?
And I looked at the way I wrote the book, and I was very clear in my memory of this topic, of this incident.
But he said, I think you mixed me up with another reporter there, a guy named Justin Sink from Bloomberg.
And I think that's what happened.
So I wrote, we're working on a correction for the book.
We'll have a correction out.
And I wrote him an apology in my sub stack and a correction.
I said, look, Mike wasn't there.
And I recognize why I made a mistake.
I just misread a poll report as being his work product, but it wasn't.
And that's why.
Well, that can happen.
I mean, pool reports are written by someone who's covering for the pool.
Right.
And, you know, they're reporting one person's allowed in and they report things that anybody can pick up and include in their reports.
Right.
So that's, you know, a more economical way to get certain things seen by... it would just involve too many reporters to come along if they all did.
Yeah.
But then I went further with Mike, and I said, look, Mike, here's my book.
This is me in the book.
And I showed him a picture that's in the book, a screenshot of a video, this White House video of Joe Biden walking down the exit ramp from Air Force Two in Ukraine in 2015, shaking hands with Talia Klitschko.
Well, I'm like Mike, this is two days after Hunter and Joe were on the phone in a conference call
during a Burisma board meeting.
Vitaly Klitschko was on the board of Burisma Geothermal with Hunter Biden.
Was he there?
Was he at this board meeting?
Was that why he was the Air Force Two greeter that day?
Did Joe tell him, I want you to be my greeter?
And Mike just is looking at me like dumbfounded.
Like I'm an NBC reporter, this is my beat.
I've been covering Joe Biden for years.
I'm not talking about this.
And that's what we're working with in the press right now.
There are hundreds of press that don't wanna report and they can't honestly accept what my book is.
is what my book is.
It's too powerful for them because it makes them look bad.
And the worst insult is they're getting written out, they're getting scooped by a stenographer.
In the White House, you know, if you're a press reporter, The insult is we're not press reporters, we're just stenographers.
They kind of demean people by calling them stenographers.
Well, I'm the stenographer and I've got more stuff on Joe Biden than they do.
Well, again, it has to do with the honesty and the ability to perceive what you're, you know, what the press do not want information that's detrimental to the deep state, period.
They will report it.
If they tried to report it, they wouldn't get it published or they'd be fired.
Yeah, that's right.
I mean, they're literally, they don't say it.
They won't tell me that, but that's been the message all along for 15, 16 years that I worked there.
Now, when you, at the trial, so the trial's going on, you're talking with the press, and it must be clear at some point that Biden's going to be found guilty.
Okay, and he's going to be, the evidence is overwhelming.
They don't really produce any defense.
How are the press reacting when this is the case?
Well, this is interesting because I didn't think he was going to be found guilty.
I was on the radio in Washington the day before saying, I have very low confidence that this jury is going to find him guilty.
And when I went and so what happened was a day I drove up I got there and I'll tell you one one day I got up there and it was a day that Hallie was there I had to go you know I drove up went into the men's room who walks in but Hunter Biden walks in the men's room and his buddy Kevin Morris was standing right next to me washing his hands.
So, and there were a lot of familiar faces that saw me.
There were people in their entourage that knew me.
There was a guy named Fran Person.
He's like, hey, Mike.
And I worked with him.
He was Biden's body man.
I said, hey, Fran.
But they did not want me around when they understood that I was there with this book and I was talking to the press.
So then they started getting freezy about me.
So the day of the The jury came back.
I got up there and I realized... I was up there around 11 30.
The jury was out.
I realized something was happening because I saw some press running towards the courthouse.
So I ran up and got in line and I was at the head of the line and all of a sudden the motorcade rolled up and they all went in without having to go through the magnometers.
And so the press, they made us go through magnometers just like you do at the airport.
Take off your belt and everything.
Finally, we get up to the courtroom, and just as I got there, the doors were closed.
There was another press guy there, and there was me, and I could sort of see through the window.
The jury was in, and they talked for about 10 minutes, and then Hunter's aunt came out.
Aunt Val, Valerie Biden Owens.
She came out, and she wanted to go in, and they wouldn't let her in.
You know, guys with earphones are standing in the door.
Nope, you're not coming in.
She's like, you have to let me in.
They're like, nope, she was spitting math.
So then...
All of a sudden, the jury leaves, and they let her in.
And then about five minutes later, everybody comes out.
I couldn't tell by the demeanor what was the verdict at that point.
I'm standing right there in the doorway.
They're all rushing out.
Press people are running out, and I'm like, huh, they have something to report.
And I went downstairs one floor to a press overflow room.
I said, what happened?
And they said, guilty on all three counts.
And I was shocked.
And I think the press were shocked.
And I'll tell you why I was so shocked.
So later, the reporting in the New York Post came out, which is really good.
What happened was, being in the back of the courthouse on the day Hallie Biden testified, I could see the jury.
The jury was a cross-section of Wilmington.
They were age 20 to age 60, all different walks of life, male, female, everything.
Well, The first night they went out they went out on a Monday and they were they deliberated for an hour and then came back and then they came back Tuesday and that's when the verdict was issued.
That's when I was there watching through the window.
So what happened was There were six versus six on Monday night.
Six said, because it was a slam dunk, I mean the evidence was overwhelming.
You know, Hallie Biden testified, yes, I threw the gun out.
It was Hunter's gun.
It had cocaine residue all around the console where I found it.
It, you know, the bag that it was in had cocaine residue on it that they tested.
She put it, him buying, him having the gun, Him being a crack addict, she testified that she was deeply ashamed of that point in her life.
She had just remarried.
Her husband was in the courtroom.
It was a very emotional thing for her to go through.
And she got up and left.
And that was probably the last she'll see of a lot of those Bidens.
Her daughters are still the granddaughters of the President of the United States.
So the family's still tied together.
But I think she's distancing herself as far as she can from Hunter Biden.
So back to the jury.
The jury goes out, and this is a slam-dunk case.
So six people, the night of, are like, yeah, he's guilty.
The other six are like, no, we're not sure.
And in the closing arguments, Abbey Lowell, the defense attorney, he had to go to the emotion.
His case, he had nothing really to take down the prosecution's facts.
So he went for emotion.
You've got the First Lady of the United States in the front row.
The whole Biden family is here.
You walk into this room and you're the most important people in this room.
Everybody stands for you.
You've got Hunter Biden's life in your hands.
So that was closing.
So they go out on that and half the jury is looking at the facts.
The other half is looking at the emotion.
They come back Tuesday morning and they're 11 for guilty.
The people that went home overnight didn't buy the Biden thing. They went back into their
houses, they went back in their community, and they said, we're not backing Joe Biden on this. We're
done with Joe Biden's nonsense.
There was one holdout guy, as reported in New York Post, who, he was a little confused over
the fact that Hunter Biden wasn't smoking crack when he bought the gun, and that's what he thought
had to be the case that made him guilty, and that wasn't the case.
So they just sort of told him, no, that's not the case, and he went along and went guilty.
So they came back 12 guilty votes.
That's what was shocking to me.
That half of Wilmington at first wanted to be emotionally bonded with the Bidens.
They went back and they looked at the facts.
They went back to their homes and their communities and they said, we're not backing the Bidens.
That's a significant fact for the future of the Biden, you know, the Biden brand, but also the Biden campaign.
Because Wilmington is his, his power base and they didn't go for him.
They should have, I thought they would have, but they didn't go for him.
Yeah, Wilmington's a very small community.
It's a very tight community, and it's dominated by a few banks, and it's a place where a lot of corporations register because of its laws in Delaware.
But the point is that if the Bidens lose it in Delaware, and especially in Wilmington, it's hard to imagine the Bidens are going to win anywhere.
It's right.
Yeah, this is their home base.
Yeah.
And the facts of this case, I mean, it's an extremely ugly case.
So you have, you know, crack cocaine use, you know, drug use all over the place.
Got sex with his dead brother's wife.
Right.
Grandchildren that are the Biden's grandchildren from the dead brother, through this woman.
And he's buying a gun, lying about it.
What did he need the gun for?
Who knows?
Maybe just to have a gun.
And so therefore he lies about it and is caught.
She throws the gun away.
Why did she throw the gun away?
She was worried that he was going to hurt himself or her kids would get it and hurt themselves with it.
It was just a dangerous thing.
She didn't like it.
Right.
She wanted to get rid of it.
Because he was dangerous and the whole situation was dangerous.
Right.
And she was into this and she was probably lost into this.
I mean, it's, you know, it's a bizarre story for a first family and yet we're all supposed to just accept it and, you know, not think anything about it.
But when the fact is that every aspect of this story is bizarre.
Yeah.
And the prosecution was very surgical in how they handled it.
They stayed away from the lurid stuff in the laptop.
Hunter took Hallie into the laptop and they did selfie porn.
He did stuff with her kids in the laptop.
the prosecution stayed away from all that.
So, but it was still for the Biden first family to be sitting in the courtroom
listening to some of the stuff she was talking about.
And they had a witness who was like her Twitter handle is weed slut 724 or something like all she does.
She was a paid prostitute, basically, to hang out with him and do drugs with him.
She testified that he was a heavy drug user in the time she was with him.
It was just sordid.
The press, I was sitting in the back of the room when Hallie was testifying next to a guy from the Financial Times.
He was shocked at the sordidness and it was like he had never heard about what really was going on.
in reporting out of the laptop.
Like they just looked at the laptop as something that they didn't have to pay attention to.
And all of a sudden, it's right there in their faces and they had to pay attention to it.
And it was really sordid.
So the press overall really had to do a wake up call.
And that's what I was up there doing was shoving this in their face.
And eventually, so I eventually got to the point where, and let me talk a little bit about my trying to get my,
as a witness in front of that grand jury that special counsel David Weiss did.
I mean, that's a part of my book.
That's the end of the book.
The chapter is called The Unexamined Witness.
So in 2023, a year ago, I came to the FBI and said, I was a witness to Joe Biden's crime in Air Force Two, and I gave him a witness tip.
Nothing happened.
And it was significant.
And I was there as a witness, and I was right on.
So I went to the media, and the media kind of blew up the story, and then I went into the Oversight Committee's investigation and talked to them about it.
Still nothing.
I haven't testified to them.
Well, along the way, I sent an information packet to David Weiss's office.
At the time, he was the Delaware U.S.
Attorney.
So they were looking at all these crimes that Hunter had, And they wouldn't talk to me.
They wouldn't take my information package.
I called in their office.
They would not acknowledge they got my information.
So that's when they came out with a sweetheart plea deal.
And the judge in this trial, Judge Noriega, she threw it out.
She said, I'm not going with this sweetheart deal.
And I called her chambers and said, Judge, I'm an interested witness.
Is there a way I can tell you about this?
Because one of the people that's in the laptop and is in my book is a guy named Alexander Mackler.
Mackler was a Biden operative during the startup of this Ukrainian kickback scheme.
Well, he, in 2018, when this investigation was begun into Hunter Biden, was working for He was working as a Biden operative in 2014.
He worked there for about six months.
He moved from the Biden, he was working as a Biden operative in 2014.
He worked there for about six months.
And then in middle of 2014, he started working for Joe Biden in his vice president's council office.
He worked there till the end of the Biden administration.
And then he moved into David Weiss's US administration.
Attorney's Office.
And that's where he was when the investigation started.
And he was part of the reason, I think, that they were pushing this investigation out the door and away from getting to the bottom of what was going on.
And so I told the judge this.
And this is all in my book, and lo and behold, David Weiss becomes a special counsel.
So when I went up there, my goal that day of the jury trial was to get to the press conference that I knew they were going to have, and my goal was to ask David Weiss, why won't you let me testify?
So they never had a press conference at the site.
They had Three hundred journalists sitting in a small courtyard right next to the courthouse.
And instead of just walking over there and talking to them, the Weiss team went back to their main office, the District Attorney of Delaware.
Office, sorry, U.S.
Attorney of Delaware's office about five blocks away.
And when I heard that talked about by some of the guards in front of the courthouse, I got right over to that office and I got up into the room where they were having their press conference.
And then all of a sudden they shut the door on most of the press.
So I was there as about one of 20 or 25 press in there.
There was only one camera guy, there was one video camera, and there was like four still cameras.
And there was a bunch of writers and me.
And when he, so David Weiss walks out to do a statement, it was about three in the afternoon, about three hours after the jury was released, and he did a three-minute statement.
I want to thank the jury.
I want to thank the process.
I want to thank Merrick Garland for being a great district attorney and let us bring your justice to America, blah, blah, blah.
And just as he was leaving the room, I yelled out to him.
I was a witness to Joe Biden's crime on Air Force One.
I made a mistake.
I said Air Force One.
I said Air Force Two.
I need to be a witness in your grand jury and you won't have any door closed.
And I ran away.
They were running away from me.
But if you go to the C-SPAN, you can hear that clip on C-SPAN.
So then I went down in the front of the building and I was working.
I started getting texts from reporters.
I got a text from Newsmax, James Rosen.
And he texted me and said, Mike, was that you?
And I was like, yeah.
He said, I'll see if I can get you on TV tonight.
So I did some emailing with him.
It turned out he didn't get on TV that night.
But as I was sitting there, one of the prosecutors, a guy named Leo Wise, walked out of the building.
Unattended.
He's just walking somewhere.
In the public.
And I grabbed up my stuff and I turned my phone on record and I ran up after him.
And I have a recording.
The video isn't very well done because I was actually videotaping the ground as I was running along.
But you can hear the audio very clearly.
And I was like, Leo, I sent you a copy of my book because I had done that back in in February this year.
I sent Leo Wise a copy of my book to his office in the special counsel.
And by the return receipt, I saw that they received the book.
So I don't know if he got it.
I said, Leo, I sent you a copy of my book.
I was a witness to Joe Biden committing a crime in Air Force Two in 2014.
How do I testify in front of the grand jury?
He goes, sorry, I can't talk about the grand jury.
And I go, What do you mean?
So if I'm a witness, how does anyone who's a witness against Joe Biden talk about the grand jury?
And again, he goes, I can't talk about the grand jury.
And he's walking as fast as he can away from me.
And so he's 10 steps away from another building.
He goes into that building.
I'm like, Leo, how do I get in touch with you?
Do you have a car or anything?
He goes, I don't have a car.
I'm sorry.
He just walks in the building.
And that was it.
But I have it on video.
So I put that in my substack.
People can see those two videos in my substack.
And they know that David Weiss's special counsel is a fraud.
They're not.
They're not prosecuting Joe.
This whole trial in Wilmington was a diversion away from Joe.
And I'm the proof of that.
And having me confront both David Weiss and Leo Wise is the proof of that.
And it's on my substack.
Now, what is your substack, by the way?
The substack is Midnight and the Laptop of Good and Evil.
That's right, Midnight in the Laptop of Good and Evil, which is a play on the novel.
That's right.
There we go.
Yep.
So now, what's going to happen with Hunter Biden?
What's the outcome of this trial?
I think they go to sentencing.
I'm not sure when, maybe later this summer.
He's got another trial on tax evasion charges in Los Angeles in September.
Joe has come out and said he's not going to pardon Hunter, but he didn't say anything about commuting his sentence.
It's clear that Hunter Biden is not in the same And none of this has anything to do with the bribery or taking money or... He's not charged with the drug use or any of those things.
He's not charged with any violations.
I mean, he just it was amazing to me that the jury came back and found him guilty.
To me, that was a real shot in the arm for American justice.
And none of this has anything to do with the bribery or taking money or
he's not charged with the drug use or any of those things.
He's not charged with any violations.
I mean, the stuff with the pornography is, you know, pretty abusive and it's bizarre.
are.
Right.
FARA violations.
You know, the stuff that I saw, I would get in front of a grand jury and tell them, that's why I wrote the book.
I realized last summer, after sending them this information, and they didn't want to put me in front of the grand jury, and going to the oversight committee and telling them what I knew, including what I told you about the metabiota, that They were never going to have any testifier of because there was too much evidence against specifically Joe, but also Barack Obama and the conspiracy that goes deep into the White House.
There's all kinds of people involved in that conspiracy.
So how about what about Obama?
What about the White House?
Be more specific.
Well, Jake Sullivan was the person I named.
I named Jake Sullivan and Joe Biden as co-conspirators in the FBI tip, and that's what I sent to David Weiss.
You know, Jake Sullivan was part of promoting Joe Biden's kickback scheme to the press as being, you know, it's totally legitimate, but it wasn't.
Behind the scenes, secretly, unbeknownst to the world, Hunter was getting money from the company that Joe Through Jake Sullivan was promoting both those guys working for Barack Obama and Barack Obama had a lot of meetings with Joe Biden and he sent US Attorney I'm sorry Attorney General Eric Holder.
Over to England a week after Joe Biden was in Ukraine on April 21, 2014, when he committed this crime.
Eric Holder went to England and did this kind of a Fake news cover story saying we're going to investigate these guys.
We're going to investigate these Ukrainians.
They're sending money and stealing money from the people of Ukraine.
Well, they investigate them and the investigation got thrown out.
There was 23 million dollars that Burisma had frozen in trying to transfer from London to Cyprus.
In 2014, well, by December 2014, that was unfrozen and went to Cyprus.
So they said, oh, we're going to investigate him.
They investigated him and it didn't matter.
So this is part of the conspiracy.
And then the conspiracy goes into the U.S.
Embassy.
Victoria Nuland, Assistant Secretary of State, was part of it.
The ambassador, Jeffrey Pyatt, was part of it.
You know, they were setting up this Maidan revolution, and Joe knew it, and he knew he could go in there and capitalize on this Burisma kickback scheme, plus the metabiotic kickback scheme, and then the whole, you know, the Obama White House has been covering for Joe ever since.
The metabiotic, by the way, got set up.
Where did it get set up?
MetaBiota got set up out of China.
After Joe went to China, Hunter's Rosemont Seneca Technology Partners started investing in MetaBiota.
MetaBiota then goes into the Republic of Georgia and starts working on one of these bio labs that's in Georgia, on the footstep of Russia.
And then they go into Ukraine, and they start setting up the bio labs in Ukraine.
And Hunter Biden And Devin Archer were partners in this investment program in 2014.
In September of 2014, Devin Archer went to the U.S.
Embassy in Kyiv, and they've never asked him about it in any of these interviews he's done with the Oversight Committee.
I think because he was over there talking about what happened with Metabiota, and also Burisma, to the U.S.
Embassy, and that's in my book, too.
I didn't talk about Metabiota in my book because the topic is very broad, and it's very... it's the topic for another book.
Well, it's fascinating.
What kind of a sentence do you think he's going to get?
Oh, he'll get, you know...
Maybe community service?
I don't know, you know?
And whatever he gets is probably going to be commuted by his father so he doesn't have to serve it.
Yeah, I mean, you know, we'll see.
Judge Nordjeika was very fair and I thought she did a very good job.
She was fair to both sides and, you know, she may come down hard on him and knowing that, you know, if she does, that's going to force Joe Biden to commute it.
And, you know, that'll be one more sort of things that everybody realizes who the real Joe Biden is.
He's just a lying guy.
He's going to protect himself and promote himself at all costs.
It's a disgusting story and so many different aspects of it.
You know, the cocaine, the drugs, the sex, sex within the family, abusive sex, sex with prostitutes.
You know, multiple partner sex.
I mean, it just goes on and on and on.
Guns.
All the texting they do.
The Marco Polo, which I see you have a copy of the Marco Polo book on your bookshelf.
That book really details the laptop in great detail.
There's a Marco Polo website and I've worked with the Marco Polo guys to get that publicized.
Yeah.
The story on Biden that this is the President of the United States and that this is the background of who the President of the United States is, is a deeply disgraceful story that I think shows how far we've come down as a nation.
Right.
Into the dirt and trenches and it's protected that in the law enforcement will not touch it because it's Joe Biden.
The deep state operatives here are at work and the whole system of protecting this, it just reveals the corruption that pervades our government at all levels.
You know, Trump has no crime and yet he's indicted and convicted and now faces jail time probably.
Biden family does all these massive crimes and there's no legal repercussions for them at all.
And no repercussions in the press.
Yeah.
That's what's shocking to me.
If this book was written 30 years ago by a Washington Post reporter, it would be a page one topic for about a month.
With nightly broadcast news about this crime or that crime, because the book has a lot of leads for people to follow.
I mean, I go into the book and sort of talk about this, but I get only so far as a witness.
And I'm like, you know, somebody should look at this.
Nobody, these reporters I'm talking to, they do not want to pick up this book and go where the leads would take them.
They don't.
No question about it.
Okay, why don't we, I think we'll wrap it up here.
Mike, why don't you give your websites again?
Where can people find you?
Well, I'm on Twitter and True Social, at Joe Unauthorized.
That's my social media.
The substack is Midnight in a Laptop of Good and Evil.
And the book is The Case to Impeach and Imprison Joe Biden.
It's on Amazon, or it's on Barnes & Noble.
You've done really good work here to get all this out, and the depth of reporting is impressive.
I encourage people to read it, I encourage people to learn the truth, because again, we're only going to turn back this evil if we understand how deeply it goes, And how covertly it operates.
It's a very dangerous development for the country.
And I commend you, Mike, for bringing it to light.
And I think you have one more story we want to cover as to do with the Catholic Church.
And we'll probably get into that for our next conversation.
Yeah, that's right.
Very sorry.
Thanks, Dr. Quigley.
Thank you very much, Mike.
This is Dr. Jerome Corsi.
In the end, God always wins.
God will win here, too.
I think after hearing this, we especially need to invoke 2 Chronicles 7-14 and get on our knees and repent for letting the country get to this point.
It's almost impossible to believe how low we've come.
With the Biden family, the Bidens and Obama, Hillary Clinton, the Clinton Foundation, been reporting on this for years, and it still astounds me that these people get a pass.
It will not be to our benefit that we allowed this to get to a pass, because when the end comes, when these people decide they're finally going to take over, We will have given up so much ground, we'll find we have abandoned our justice, we've abandoned our news, we've abandoned the country.
But in the end, God wins, and I have confidence that God's written the final chapter.
