Pastor Jim Bakker welcomes Michael Snyder, who links Minnesota’s $6B+ fraud schemes—like fake Somali daycare centers—to leftist Democrats and ICE opposition, calling Minneapolis a "Somalia-like war zone." Snyder cites 12K–20K deaths in Iran’s protests as biblical prophecy unfolding, comparing Dearborn to the Middle East. With Bakker urging donations for Christian TV during the telethon (1-888-988-1588), they declare the "last days" are accelerating, blending civil unrest with apocalyptic warnings while framing Trump’s threats as part of a global spiritual battle. Faithfulness and financial support become central amid perceived societal collapse. [Automatically generated summary]
And now, please welcome your host, Pastor Jim Baker.
Hello, everybody, and welcome back to PTL.
We have a great guest today, Michael Snyder.
He's one of the foremost, I call him a prophet in this day.
Absolutely, a former attorney in Washington, D.C.
This man, he deals with where we are currently in not only in America, but globally, has an amazing blog, the Economics Collapse blog, and others that you can get your information, but he gives you the synopsis to the point of what's happening today.
I believe that Michael Snyder is one of the great voices of prophecy in the world today.
Do you believe that?
Yes, sir.
Absolutely.
Someone that can take the current headline of the day and bring it back into context with biblical worldview and aligns it to where we are prophetically, where we are scripturally, gives us a clear view of really what the Bible says in the current days that we're in.
And he lives on top of a mountain.
Yeah, we don't know where he lives.
He doesn't share where he lives.
Well, we don't want anybody to kill.
They're killing people today.
Yeah, yeah.
The violence.
Can I say something?
I shouldn't say, but they want to kill Donald Trump very seriously.
And I believe we need to pray for our president every day.
Absolutely.
Just a few days ago, the Ayatollah in Iran declared war on the president, saying that this time the bulletin.
He's going to kill the president.
Absolutely.
He's getting in the way of liberating Iran.
Now, I want to tell you something.
While we're underway, we're at war.
Absolutely.
It's almost a world war.
And it's a good against evil, evil against good.
Absolutely.
Are you right?
100%.
And we have to understand the type of war that we're looking at in this situation, for example, in Iran.
There's a great revival of Christians that are arising in Iran.
Then you got the other side that is suppressing the people of Iran.
We got to pray for Iran because they're killing him in the street.
And it's time to do something about to help him.
Is Michael here?
He's here.
He's via Skype.
Michael or via Zoom.
How are you doing, Michael Snyder?
I haven't seen you in a while.
I'm back.
And I'm back in my chair.
And I am thrilled to have you on the show today.
Pastor Jim, it's so great to see you back in the chair doing what you were always meant to do.
And it is such a blessing to be with you and Mondo today.
And of course, there's so much going on in the world.
We're going to have a lot to talk about on this show.
The courts have been meeting.
And even a medical doctor said he was asked, can men have babies?
And that doctor couldn't answer it.
What's wrong with humanity?
Men do not have babies unless they're altered somehow.
Yeah, you're right, Pastor Jim.
Our society has literally gone insane, but we knew this was going to happen because we really are living in the end times.
And so no matter who's in the White House, no matter what's going on in Washington, we're seeing the moral condition of the United States go downhill, whether it's the trans agenda, whether it's abortion, the number of abortions we just learned went up again.
It's been going up every single year since Roe versus Wade was overturned.
The United States is falling morally, spiritually, running away from God.
We see this on television.
We see it in the movies.
We see it everywhere, Pastor Jim.
And it's very, very sad.
But people can't describe a woman and a man.
That's what God made.
Do you understand that, right?
Yeah, yeah, I do.
When I was growing up, nobody questioned what a man was.
Nobody questioned what a woman was.
But now we've got the state of confusion where we don't even know our top experts right in front of Congress.
They can't even tell us what a man is.
Can a man get pregnant?
The expert that was testifying in Congress didn't even know how to answer, didn't even want to answer the question because it's so politically charged.
But this is the reality of where America is at in 2026, Pastor Jim.
Well, we're going to talk about Iran today, but I want to hit just a little bit because tomorrow you're coming back, okay?
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On the show, I really want you.
I want you more on the show.
I believe you're a very important voice, and I want you.
And I'm excited whenever you're on the show.
I love being done with you, Pastor Jim.
And anytime you want me on, just let me know.
It's such a privilege to be with you.
Well, Lori and I both are back on Lori today.
She had to go to a doctor appointment.
And I hate her not being able to be here, but she's going to be here from now on.
Good.
And Monda's going to be here.
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And I want to thank Ricky for holding down the fort.
Why I have had strokes, but the doctors really gave me a good report this last week.
I think the hope that we were waiting for was to see what the doctors were going to give the report if you were able to keep going on or, you know, call it a day, meaning retire.
But four years ago, the doctor said I would be on dialysis in weeks.
Yeah, yeah.
And then, you know, on top of that, you were dealing with many strokes that were setting you back.
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Is there anybody in the audience over 70?
Anybody?
Are you over 60?
Yes.
Over 60.
We don't throw out old people.
Do you know what the Bible is about?
Come on, Mondo.
How many old people?
Maybe I would ask Michael Snyder.
How many old people are in the Bible, Michael?
Well, just look at Moses.
Moses did not even begin his ministry of taking the people out of Egypt till he was 80 years old.
You know, so Moses didn't really get his big start in life till what most people consider the end of his life.
So all throughout the scriptures, we see God using people in their final chapters, and it ends up being their greatest chapter.
So I'm starting to get a little older myself.
I'm about to turn 56.
And so I'm starting to eat better.
I'm making changes for my health because I want to be around for the long haul.
You know, I want to be here through the end times ministering to people, winning souls.
So taking care of your health is so vitally important for these end times.
Michael, you got to stay alive and you got to stay healthy because I need you and church needs you because there's not many voices left.
And we got to stand by the ship and keep this ministry on the air, Mondo.
Yes, sir.
Very important.
And I'm going to be preaching end times, whether you like it or not.
And because we're living in the last days, Jesus is coming very soon and you can't give up.
You can't stop.
Amen.
And if you're old, we need you.
Yes.
It's time for the old people to take over.
The Bible does say that the older generation are going to have dreams.
The younger ones are going to have visions.
And it's so important, especially right now, that you hear from God, that you stay close to the word of God.
There's a lot of things that God wants to give you in this season.
And Michael Snyder and you.
Yeah, I want to get back to Michael.
We got to know what Iran is doing.
Well, before I go to Iran, I want to ask one more question, Michael, okay?
Sure.
I want to ask you about Minnesota.
I went to Bible school in Minnesota.
It was a great city, Minneapolis was.
I wish I could have taken you there.
I was not alive then, but I wish you weren't alive.
Because it was in the 1950s, yeah.
The 50s.
So what's going on in Minnesota?
Michael, can you dare talk about it?
Yeah, Pastor Jim.
I have a connection to Minnesota too, because both my mother and my father are from Minnesota.
And when I was young, I would go, we would go to St. Paul.
You've got Minneapolis, St. Paul, the Twin Cities.
We'd go to St. Paul and visit my grandmother, and we would walk the streets to go get some ice cream.
We would walk for blocks and blocks, never feared for our safety at all.
But now Minneapolis has become a war zone.
In fact, another illegal immigrant was just shot by a federal law enforcement officer just within the past 24 hours, as we're recording the show.
But someone else was just shot.
There's rioting in Minnesota.
There's protests.
People are going nuts.
We're seeing civil unrest.
Trump is threatening to invoke the Insurrection Act.
He's threatening to send federal troops to Minneapolis.
But, Pastor Jim, people need to understand why is this happening?
What's going on?
Civil unrest is a major thing that's going to happen in the end times, before the fall of America.
Dimitri Dudeman saw this back in the 1980s.
So many others have seen the civil unrest that I've documented in my books.
This is a major element of the perfect storm.
This is a major element of the scenario that's going to unfold in the United States as we come up to the very end, just before the days of the Antichrist.
Civil unrest, major civil unrest, rioting, looting, and it's breaking out right now.
It's breaking loose right now as so many of the other pieces are falling into place, such as war.
We'll talk about the Middle East, all these things.
But meanwhile, civil unrest in the United States, and it's going to get worse, Pastor Jim.
It is going to get worse.
America is at war, whether we know it or not.
Mondo, we are at war.
Yeah, this makes me think of what the vision or the dream that Rick Joyner had about a civil war taking place in America.
I talked to him on the phone this week for about an hour, and he believes we have maybe two years before all hell breaks loose in the world.
Well, that makes sense because while Donald Trump is in office, you see some pockets of America that are stabilizing, but some are going out of control.
100%.
He's in the way of their agenda.
And Minnesota has been a very liberal state for a very long time.
The corruption, over $9 billion being stolen from America's taxpayers and $10 billion.
And I believe this distraction with ICE is a distraction because they don't want the truth to come out.
But Michael, let me ask you this.
The problem in Minnesota of the corruption when it comes to fraud, where do you think this thing is going?
Are we going to see justice take place and people go to prison?
I hope we see justice.
Now, the U.S. Justice Department has already prosecuted dozens of individuals that were involved in the Somali fraud scheme with the daycare centers and so on in Minnesota.
So people are being prosecuted and apparently somewhere around 60 have already been convicted, but it's a lot more widespread than the people they've already convicted because as you said, it runs into the billions of dollars.
It was systematic fraud because the Somali community there in Minnesota, they figured out, hey, you could set up a fake daycare center and rake in millions of dollars.
And the people that were bringing in this money, it's been documented.
They were buying extremely expensive sports cars.
They were buying homes.
They were buying all kinds of things with this money, also sending tremendous amounts of money back to Somalia.
But it's not just happening in Minnesota, as I've documented in my articles, also in Ohio, where what people have been doing is buying houses and then setting up fake home care schemes, getting money from the federal government.
A similar thing has been happening in Pennsylvania.
It's come out.
A similar thing in Washington state.
That's a big controversy.
So literally, it looks like we're kind of scraping back the peels of the onion, discovering that it's a nationwide scheme by leftists being covered up by leftist Democrat politicians of a nationwide scheme involving billions and billions and billions of dollars, setting up fake home care, fake health care, fake childcare institutions, bringing in tremendous amounts of money from the federal government.
And it's been going on for years.
People have documented has been going on at least as early as 2015 in Minnesota.
But finally, the Trump administration is starting to crack down on it.
But the scope of what we're looking at, it appears to be a massive nationwide fraud scheme.
That's right.
Why is ICE being treated as the enemy?
Well, because, you know, we've got, you know, somewhere, it's been estimated around 30 million illegal immigrants in this country.
They've been protected by the Democrats.
And of course, what the Democrats wanted to do is bring all these people in and then have them eventually, many of them become citizens and have them have children who are automatically citizens.
And the people that are coming in are overwhelmingly more liberal than the population as a whole, eventually, you know, raising up a whole new constituency for the Democratic Party.
And so, and then, of course, coming in with these fraud schemes and whatever, and then they donate money back to the Democratic Party.
And, you know, so it's a real power base and important constituency for the Democratic Party.
And so the Democratic Party doesn't want this to go away.
And so people are freaking out.
And then, of course, at times, without a doubt, ICE has been heavy-handed in going in in some of their tactics they've been using.
And I think that's unfortunate.
But it's creating this massive uproar where people are trying to block ICE vehicles from leaving their facilities.
They're setting up roadblocks so they can't go around the cities and deport people.
And we are seeing a very large number of people being deported, but we're seeing the streets literally become war zones in Chicago and Minneapolis and Los Angeles and other areas.
And so I think this has really become a flashpoint for Antifa, for the radical left, for leftist activists that were probably inclined to cause chaos anyway.
But being able to fight back against these ICE officials as they're just trying to do ultimately their job and do what the president's instructing them to do, I think it gives them an excuse for confrontation in the streets and chaos in the streets.
But I think that we've already seen a lot of violence.
We've seen people die.
We've seen people get hurt.
But Pastor Jim, I think this is the year when things are going to go to an even higher level, unfortunately.
I believe you're absolutely right.
I believe this is not the year of chaos.
This is the year of acceleration of what we're watching take place.
It's almost a civil war starting.
Absolutely.
When you have two different communities going at it, it's not going right.
And Minneapolis was a great city.
We have allowed great churches, a different cultural point of view, overtake America's culture of right.
When you look at Michigan, Dearborn, Michigan, it doesn't look like Dearborn, Michigan.
It looks like you're in the Middle East.
When you look at Minneapolis, it's looking like Somalia.
Just to give you an example.
$9 billion renewal.
Yeah.
And we have allowed to have politicians to be voted in that they don't have America first in mind.
They have whatever the people are going to pay for is what they're getting.
And they're slipping through the cracks and making an impact.
But this is the year, write this down.
This is the year of God exposing the lies of a nation.
My time is almost gone, and I wanted to talk about Iran today, but we'll talk more tomorrow.
And Michael Slender will be back on the show tomorrow.
Michael, just hit on Iran a little bit.
What's going on in Iran?
Yeah, we've seen these massive protests, which have been going on for weeks in Iran because people in Iran are so frustrated with the regime, you know, because it's been decades of oppression since 1979.
And now recently, Trump has placed economic sanctions, very strict economic sanctions in Iran, which is causing an economic collapse in Iran.
Inflation is out of control.
People cannot afford to, many cannot even afford to eat.
They cannot afford to live like they did before.
So a lot of people feel like they have nothing left to lose.
They want freedom.
And there are millions of Christians in Iran that want the Islamic regime to go.
There are millions of others that are secularists that just hate Islam and want to live a more Western type of lifestyle.
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So they've rebelled.
And then the Iranian regime has cracked down.
The Iranian regime cut off internet access for the population in Iran.
And when they did that, I said, hey, they're doing this because there's going to be a violent crackdown.
And that's exactly what they did.
They sent their security officials into the streets.
They were gunning down people with automatic weapons.
There were snipers on the rooftops that were firing at will at the protesters.
And so Iranian officials have admitted that thousands are dead.
Iran International has reported that at least probably 12,000 are dead.
That's what they're estimating.
CBS News is reporting that up to 20,000 people in Iran are dead.
And Iranian state TV has even broadcasted images of body bags on top of body bags.
It's a bloodbath in Iran.
And that's the reason why Trump was looking at intervening.
The whole world has been shocked by the massive slaughter that's been taking place there.
And I know we don't have time to get into all the military implications.
We can do that on the next show.
But Pastor Jim, it's the worst slaughter of protesters in Iran that we've ever seen since the revolution in 1979.
In your estimate, has the last days begun?
Yes, we are here.
These are the times that the Bible told us about, that we read about in Matthew 24, that we read about in the book of Revelation.
We are living in the last days, Pastor Jim.
In fact, it is later than most people in the Christian world think.
Wow.
So to make it, you need to stay faithful to God.
Amen.
Don't turn your back on God.
Don't give up.
Don't get discouraged.
He's coming.
We're just in the last days.
It's the Bible.
And I'm going to teach more in the days to come.
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