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Oct. 10, 2025 - Jim Bakker Show
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The Jim Bakker Show with Micah Van Huss
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Heartbeat Bill Revealed 00:15:23
Welcome to the Jim Baker Family Show.
Our special guest today is Micah Van Hus.
Our co-host today is Reverend Mondo de la Vega.
And now, here's your host, Pastor Ricky Baker.
Hello, friends.
You're watching the Jim Baker Family Show on the PTL Television Network.
It's an exciting day that you've tuned in with us.
You are not going to want to miss this broadcast.
We have Micah Van Hus with us.
He is a former sniper in the United States Marine Corps, as well as a former House of Representatives for the state of Tennessee.
It's going to be an exciting conversation.
I know you've been watching the news.
I know you have seen what's happened.
We've seen the death of a man of God named Charlie Kirk, but we have seen that death not just fall void into the wilderness.
We have seen it rise up thousands and thousands of other people who are going to pick up that mantle.
In the same capacity, I said there will never be another single Billy Graham, but there will be many Billy Grahams who rise up in that place and carry on that mantle.
We know we'll never see another Charlie Kirk, but what I do believe is that there will be thousands of people who pick up that mantle and run with it to say, yes, we want to see a strong America that can have a conversation on both ends.
And yes, we want to see Jesus preached every single opportunity.
If you're watching this today and you feel like, why has the death of a man that I do not know affected me so greatly?
Well, friends, it's because he was a brother in Christ.
And whenever we lose family, we should be grieved, but we shouldn't just let that grief fall to the wayside.
We should focus our attention.
We should focus our efforts.
I've said this many times.
Make sure that you focus your passion in the right direction.
Make sure you focus it back to Jesus first, and then everything else will follow.
Seek first the kingdom of God, and everything else will be added unto you.
We have with us today a guest who I believe can carry on a legacy like that through conversation, but also through boldness.
And Jesus Christ, we have with us today Micah Van Hus.
Thank you, Micah, for being on the broadcast with us today.
Ricky, thanks so much for having me.
Mondo, to see you.
Good to be here, man.
Pleasure.
You were a former Marine sniper, as well as served in the House of Representatives for the state of Tennessee for eight years, excuse me, for eight years.
So tell me, a death like this, where you see the nation rattle, not just our country, but also worldwide, what does that, how does it make you feel for young patriots who are saying, you know what, we're going to stand up and make an even more bold stand?
Well, it makes me feel great that patriots are standing up.
What we do see in the hearts of our fellow man in America is the evil that's there.
And in light of that, what Jesus says, when a man hates his brother, he is a murderer in his heart.
That makes so much more sense after the Charlie Kirk event.
And so the folks who have that evil in their heart have exposed themselves.
We're seeing that in the media through them losing their jobs and other things.
So, you know, we're living in a time where the hearts of men are increasingly evil and the princes of the powers of the air are touching the hearts of men in a bad way.
Yeah, you know, there's a point where it says that they'll call good evil and evil good.
We have people who are online right now raving about how they're losing their jobs over mocking a man who died, but they're not equally as concerned about the man who died.
I don't care if you're Republican, Democrat, moderate, whatever you call yourself, we should never be in support of political violence.
The United States is a great country because we can both stand on a platform, have a civil disagreement, and both walk away home to our families.
That is what makes the United States so great.
Friends, we should continue to support our First Amendment fully.
The First Amendment doesn't just protect what you want to believe.
It protects what everybody wants to believe, whether it is right or wrong.
But friends, we have the truth of Jesus Christ in us.
If we go up there and boldly proclaim Christ and boldly proclaim the truth and we want a strong America, well, friends, let it be whoever wants to hate us, hate us.
But I want to say this right now.
There should never be political violence because of it.
There should never come to blows, never come to knives being wielded or guns being drawn.
We should be able to have a civil conversation.
I know you were in the House of Representatives.
Not everybody agreed with you on your political stance, did they?
No, they didn't.
You know what I'm saying?
You probably had a few counterparts.
Whenever you proposed a bill or you brought something forth or you made mention of a pro-life law or you made mention of maybe Jesus being more involved in our politics, you probably got a little bit of kickback for that, not just from the world, but from other people who are in the House of Representatives.
And so when scripture says to be bold as a lion, the righteous are as bold as a lion, that means something.
When you know you're standing on what is right, it is easy to be bold.
Wow.
And there's a lot of wishy-washing that's going on in politics.
But if you approach it with the foundation of God's word, and that's my urge for everyone, every Christian, every person on this planet, is to know what your foundation is.
The word of God, the Bible is absolute truth.
Now, I went to Pensacola Christian College, attended there for a while, and I had a lot of pastors, a lot of chapel sermons.
And not every time did someone say exactly what the Bible said.
For instance, one man said, if you can't tell me the date that you are saved, then you're not saved.
That is not what scripture teaches.
And so it was at Pensacola Christian College that I learned that just because a preacher says something, that doesn't mean that's what God says in his word.
Now, I like to talk about the weird stuff, the Nephilim and the angels and stuff.
So even what I say, I talk about the weird stuff.
Filter what I say, what we say up here, through your knowledge of the word of God.
I mean, it's like the Bereans in the book of Acts.
It says they took what they heard with gladness, but then they went back to search the scriptures to make sure it lined up.
Anytime you're sitting and listening to a pastor, you're listening to a conference speaker, listening to someone who is pouring into your life, take what they say with gladness, but then go back and make sure it lines up with the word of God.
I tell our church here in Blue Air, Missouri, hey, just because I'm preaching it doesn't mean it's 100% accurate.
Go make sure it lines up with the Word of God.
Now, granted, I try to be as accurate as I possibly can, but I never want to be the reason that an opinion slips in and they say, well, that must be Bible.
Friends, make sure it lines up with the Word of God.
You went from United States Marine, four tours in Iraq, two as a Marine, two as a contractor.
You've seen warfare, but then you transfer to a totally different type of warfare.
You join the Tennessee House of Representatives, and you really open up a can of worms there because you support something called the Heartbeat Bill.
So we are good friends with Janet Porter.
We've had her on this broadcast many times.
If you don't know who she is, look her up.
She's doing something incredible in our nation with the Heartbeat Bill.
Why did you support this and even sponsor a bill like the Heartbeat Bill in the state of Tennessee?
Because I believe that abortion is a great evil of our nation.
We are products of our culture, and it's very easy for us as Christians.
It's a caution.
It's very easy for us to compare ourselves to other people in our culture.
Well, I'm not as bad as what they're doing over here.
No, we need to compare ourselves to Jesus Christ.
We will never achieve anything near what he, the good man and the good God that he was.
But we fall into the problem of comparing ourselves to other people in our culture.
So stand for what's right.
Now, when we talk about the heartbeat bill and what happened in the legislature, you know, you would not believe the people that came against the heartbeat bill.
As a conservative, caring, caring for the life of the unborn, I had enemies in every corner, not just from the other side of the aisle.
But there was one of the takeaways I took out from the legislature was something at the end of Ephesians.
We all know in Ephesians when God says to put on the whole armor of God.
That makes sense.
We all know that.
But there's something that God says at the end of that.
Not just putting on the armor, but after having done that, stand.
And that was so true in the legislature to after you've had your fight that you stand.
Because it's so easy just to say, okay, we'll not do this bill this year.
That's right.
Stand.
You know what's incredible?
We talked about this.
I'm not going to say the denomination because it's not important right now.
But you had not just lawmakers on the other side of the aisle opposing you doing the heartbeat bill.
Actually, had Christians, people who called themselves believers in Jesus Christ, opposing you in the fact that you wanted to implement the heartbeat bill in the state of Tennessee.
Walk me through that.
How did you feel in that moment?
You're saying, okay, I understand the other side of the aisle not wanting to do this.
I understand that.
But whenever you start getting notices that there are people proclaiming to love Jesus Christ, saying, We don't want to reduce the amount of abortions in our state.
What do you say to that?
How did I feel?
Tired.
Tired is the word, but there is hope in that.
So I'm not going to name names, as you said, about the people that opposed it, but let me name one name of someone who supported it.
So I was a Republican for eight years in the Tennessee House of Representatives.
I didn't join the legislature.
The people of Washington County elected me to go speak on their behalf.
But when we passed the Heartbeat Bill, there was a Democrat.
His name is John DeBerry.
He's a current advisor to Governor Bill Lee.
After 26 years of being in the legislature, he came up to me, and this is one of the highest moments of my time in the legislature.
After we passed the heartbeat bill in the House of Representatives, the Democrat, John DeBerry, came up to me and said, Micah, I've been waiting 26 years to vote for this bill.
And that right there was worth it.
And so no matter how who fights you, even from your side of the aisle, you got to do what God has put in your heart.
Amen.
You've seen war.
You've seen politics.
How does that shape what's going on right now?
And kind of, what's your opinion on the global condition?
We're definitely living in prophetic times.
When you read Matthew chapter 24, Revelation, as it talks about how it would be towards the end, we're seeing so many things that are falling into place.
And there's a couple that I never really noticed until a year or so ago.
Matthew chapter 24 says, many will be offended.
I mean, think about that.
What kind of world are we living in?
Children disrespectful to parents.
But I think what one of the major takeaways we need to remember is that the United States stands with Israel.
And Israel is a very small nation, surrounded by enemies.
We have nuclear warfare these days.
It would only take a couple of nukes to take out all of Israel.
It's not very big, but the United States of America has stood behind Israel and it has been a deterrent from Russia, from Iran.
We got Hezbollah to the north in Lebanon, Hamas in the south.
Israel is surrounded by enemies, but we as Americans need to stand.
And it's not just towards our government.
It's for the voters.
It's for the young people.
There is a movement to push Israel to the side or make Israel seem evil.
Stand with Israel.
And not only that, vote for politicians who will stand with Israel.
Because as Christians, we know Israel is God's chosen people.
Can I say something that the conversation about Israel right now is developing in ways that I don't think much people are still understanding about the influence of APAC?
And people are calling that a lot of the administration from Israel has manipulated America into believing into deception.
What do you say to the viewer that is probably conflicted on the mixed messaging?
The Bible tells us one thing for us to stand with Israel.
Then you got the geopolitical side of things.
People are getting confused.
What will your message be for Christians right now on what God said about Israel?
Not necessarily about the politicians that are running Israel, but again, biblically, what does this mean for us Christians?
Is it a non-negotiable?
So I would say to those folks, I am not confused myself because I know what God says in his word.
And I would urge them to look into their scriptures and see what God says.
We've got Deuteronomy chapter 32, verse 9.
This is the point in history after the Tower of Babel that God prophesies his choosing of Israel as his chosen nation.
God chooses Israel as his nation, and he divorces the other 69, between 69 and 71 nations, and hands them over to the fallen angels.
But God chooses Israel.
So Israel is God's chosen nation.
Now, while we as Christians are followers of Jesus Christ the Savior, God has also set aside a special folks, and that is Israel.
And for him to choose Israel as his nation, we see it throughout scripture, throughout history, that at times he allows Israel to be conquered for his purposes, and he also puts his hedge of protection around Israel.
So I would say to those folks, I am not confused because scripture is clear about God's chosen people.
Absolutely.
We're going to be talking about some of the books that you've written.
I'm going to go through them quickly, if that's okay with you.
This is the first book called Ancient Times and the Gods Who Built Them.
I want to kind of, after this, let you have some time to give a quick synopsis on them.
The Earth as it was, Dinosaurs, Giants, and Firmament.
And also, Secret Societies, Blood Never Sleeps.
And then this is your latest books, which we're going to be talking about in depth on our second show, Angels Eternal, War of the Princess.
If somebody has ever read any of these books, kind of give us a synopsis of what they are.
Are they a series?
And kind of, you know, what each one is about.
They're not a series because my mind rambles too much.
Let me see that ancient cities.
So Ancient Cities and the Gods Who Built Them was my first book.
And we're talking about the gods who built the cities.
This is kind of the idea that the ancient megaliths, the pyramids, their alignment with the stars, the mathematics involved are way too advanced for humans to have been able to build these megaliths on their own.
There was some help from something in the past.
And so we're talking about the fallen angels, the knowledge of the watchers in this book, and all kinds of fascinating stories involved with humans having help to build the ancient megaliths.
Ready to go on to the next?
Please.
So the earth as it was, this is my biblically based study and some speculation about how I believe the earth was before the flood of Noah.
We're talking about creation.
We're talking about mythological creation theories.
We're talking about dinosaurs, the giants, the watchers, the technology that humankind possessed, and all the evidence that the global flood was true and that evolution is a lie.
My third book is Secret Societies, Blood Never Sleeps.
The title is kind of explanatory of what this is.
But behind the scenes, from a Christian perspective, what we do in this book is we go through from before the flood that the knowledge that the secret societies are trying to pass through the ages is actually the knowledge of the watchers, the forbidden knowledge that the watchers taught to mankind.
And so there are two themes.
We come to the end.
What are the secret societies working toward?
They're working towards two things.
The knowledge of the watchers teaches that you don't need God.
You can become a God yourself.
That is what the ancient wisdom is trying to teach through all the Hermetic religions, philosophies all the way into the New Age movement.
And this message is not new.
It's ancient because it was the serpent in the garden who told Eve that if she ate the fruit, she would be like God through knowledge.
So that is the knowledge that the secret societies are trying to teach.
And the secret societies are trying to usher in a final battle against what they call the oppressive God of the Bible.
And they'll get their battle.
It's called the Battle of Armageddon, but they're not going to win it.
And so that is the Secret Societies theme.
Now, what are the societies?
Can you name a few of them?
You got me going now.
What are the societies that are playing out right now?
I don't want to get in trouble, but you get what I'm saying.
Oh, yeah.
So we start with before the flood, the Serpent Brotherhood, all the way to the Solar Brotherhood of Egypt after the flood, the origin of those secret societies.
Three Names for God 00:02:56
Going into the Knights Templar, the Knights Templar are a whole lot more involved in the foundation of our world's secret societies than people realize.
The Knights Templar have the Red Cross emblazoned on their tabards.
What do we see when the Portuguese explorers go across the world on Christopher Columbus' three ships?
We see the Templar Cross.
And so they are much more involved.
And I think I speculate a little bit that they're kind of the genesis of Freemasonry.
So then we get into the more modern times, not just the secret societies, but the 13 powerful families behind the world.
So we're talking about conspiracy theories.
We're talking about the powerful families.
And I personally don't believe that the families have yet succeeded in having full control.
They're trying.
They want to be.
But I think we as America have been a beacon.
It was Sir Francis Bacon that wanted desperately for America to be the new Atlantis.
Atlantis, the place to bring back the old gods into America.
And so we see a schism at the founding of the United States in Freemasonry.
You have George Washington and his generals who follow the God of the Bible, kind of a Christian version of Freemasonry.
But at the same year that our country was founded, 1776, the Illuminati was born in Europe to foment revolution.
And that's what Benjamin Franklin adhered to.
And you see the struggle at the founding of our country, where even in the Declaration of Independence, there are three names for God in the Declaration of Independence, nature is God, Almighty, etc.
So there is that schism.
And so we go into that.
But yes, there are families that desperately want to have control.
They have not yet fully succeeded in controlling.
And I got to be honest with you, from my political side and my Marine Corps side, America is what's standing as the beacon on the hill.
And our Second Amendment is what is keeping our freedoms and standing in the way.
But do you believe that America's politics, because it's being attacked so heavily, that God has protected the policies and the politics of America?
I do believe.
And we're talking about the hedge of protection.
We see throughout scripture the hedge of protection around the nation of Israel.
I do believe it's obvious to me that God has placed a hedge around America and he will lift that hedge.
He has whenever he needs us to.
It gets into another idea.
We have been prosperous for so long in this country that our generations are forgetting what is important.
And that's why it's imperative that you raise your children with the values of Christianity and conservatism, Christianity to love God.
When people are prosperous for so long, they tend to forget what's important.
We lose our work ethic.
It's the other countries that come over and are successful in businesses, people from other countries.
Divine Counsel and Heaven's Response 00:09:40
So America is the shining city on a hill, and we are what's standing in that gap.
Amen.
Angels, eternal friends, I want you to watch this book trailer so you can see what this is all about.
And when we come back from that, I'm going to ask Micah a few questions.
In an age long past, 200 angels, led by Shemyaza, defied the Most High and transcended the veil.
Their offspring were the Nephilim, giants, tyrants.
But when men could no longer sustain them, the giants began to eat men and drink their blood.
The cries of man found their way up to the gates of heaven.
This is what he commands.
Gabriel, the giants make them war among themselves.
Commander.
Raphael, find Azazel.
Cast him into the pit in Dudayel.
Chain him there until the judgment.
Uriel, give this to the son of Lamech.
Warn him of the coming flood.
Understood.
And you, Commander, Shem Yazza and the fallen are to be bound.
In fire and flood, the judgment would come.
But the enemy is patient, and the war for the hearts of men had only just begun.
The opening for this book is called the Divine Counsel.
That's the first chapter of this book.
Explain to people who may not be familiar, what is the divine counsel, and why did you start with that?
So the divine counsel is foundational is why I started with it.
The divine counsel is God's heavenly courtroom, and it is where spiritual beings gather, and God allows these spiritual beings to make decisions about the earth and any other creation God has.
And so why do I say that?
We have perfect evidence in scripture of the divine counsel in action.
So 1 Kings chapter 22, verse 19 through 22 is the perfect picture.
And he said, Hear therefore the word of the Lord.
I saw the Lord sitting on his throne and all the host of heaven standing beside him on his right hand and on his left.
The Lord said, who will persuade Ahab so that he will go up and die at Ramoth Gilead?
Ahab is a human king.
And one said this, we're talking about spiritual beings, and the other said that.
Then a spirit came and stood before the Lord and said, I will persuade him.
The Lord said to him, how?
And he said, I will go and be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets.
And he said, you will be successful and persuade him.
Go forth and do so.
This is the primary example of the divine counsel in action in scripture.
Now, the question arises, does God need a divine counsel?
No.
But just because God doesn't need a divine counsel is not evidence that he doesn't have it.
God doesn't need a church, yet that's how he has chosen to operate.
God doesn't need the divine counsel, but he chooses to allow other spiritual beings to make decisions.
We see other examples of this in Job chapter 1 and 2, where the sons of God are meeting with God in heaven, talking about Job and other people.
And so there's evidence throughout scripture of a divine counsel.
So why is it important?
It shows that not only is Christ supreme over what our brains have comprehended of humanity, but Christ is also supreme over these spiritual beings and it amplifies Christ's power.
Has this been a mystery that has been unlocked that now we can understand Genesis 6 and the foundation of our faith and the warfare that the Bible has always experienced through what we're watching play out today?
And so, yes, this has been a mystery.
We'll call it a mystery, but there are those folks who have understood the Genesis 6 worldview, the giant worldview, and the B'na Ha Elohim angels worldview.
But this is foundational.
And I think a little bit later, we're going to get into the three reasons that Jesus came to the earth.
We as Christians, we know that Jesus came to save us from our sins, but there's actually two other reasons Jesus came to the earth primarily.
This is Dr. Michael Heiser's reversing hormone theory and study.
And Jesus came to reverse the curse of these watchers that descended before the flood and the curse after the Tower of Babel, which we'll get into in a little bit.
So yes, this is something Daniel, the book of Daniel says that towards the end, knowledge will be increased.
Now, that's, in my opinion, obviously a picture of the internet, but I do think mysteries are being revealed.
And we're seeing people talking about this giant worldview more than they used to.
And of course, all of my books are themed around this worldview.
And it's once you understand the giant worldview in scripture, there's passages in here that don't make a lot of sense until you understand that's what's going on.
First of all, one of the non-canonical books says that when man could no longer satiate the giants, the giants began to eat mankind.
Guess what?
We find that in scripture.
It's in Numbers when the spies are going through, they talk about the land that eateth the inhabitants and is filled with the giants, the Rephaim.
Also, after Joshua conquers one people, he lines them up and he uses a rope to measure.
And every third person he kills, every two he kills, every third he lets live.
That doesn't make a lot of sense.
But once you understand the giant worldview, he's actually measuring the men with a rope.
And if they measure two rope links, they're giants and he's killing them.
So once you understand the giant worldview that this is really what's going on, so much makes sense.
That's incredible.
And a lot of people read the Old Testament and they'll just kind of lightly go over the thing because they don't understand.
What you've done is you've provided a way for people to understand in this book, Angels Eternal.
Somebody wants to order this, be a part of this, support you and your ministry.
Where would they go and what do they need to do?
Folks can go to marginalmysteries.com.
That's where we have my books and all the social media links.
And we are an affiliate of Southwest Radio Ministries.
So SWRC.com or marginalmysteries.com.
Amen.
Friends, I want you to go get this book.
Go support this ministry.
What's happening with Micah Van Huss.
Now, this is the newest book in your installment.
You have, you said the Ford, not a series, but it's important that they, you know, I think get them all, Mondo, because secret societies, it's important to know what we're up against.
The creation, it's important to have your foundation set correctly because then the rest of the book makes a lot more sense.
And then also your very first book that you ever wrote, which is called Ancient Cities.
Ancient Gods Who Built Them.
Friends, they may be able to take whatever they want away from you, but when you have education, have it stored in your mind, have the word of God burnt into your heart, that'll never be taken away.
And when you have the word of God in your heart, it is like a light on top of a hill where other people are drawn to you, not because of how great you are and everything that you've done, but because you have the hope that can save their life.
That is Jesus Christ.
It's the only way to heaven.
We'll never back down from that position on the Jim Baker Family Show, the whole PTL television network.
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He is strong in his mind.
You know, he's had 12 strokes, right?
It's 12 strokes now.
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We love you guys.
Mike, I want to say thank you for being on the broadcast.
We'll have you again tomorrow.
God bless you guys.
Remember, God loves you.
He really does.
Thank you for supporting the network.
God bless you.
Amen.
Amen.
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