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July 16, 2025 - Jim Bakker Show
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The Jim Bakker Show with Robert Henderson Part 2
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Breaking Generational Curses 00:15:14
Welcome to the Jim Baker Family Show.
Today, our special guest is the founder and leader of multiple apostolic networks, Robert Henderson.
Our co-host today is Reverend Mondo de la Vega.
And now, here is your host, Pastor Ricky Baker.
Welcome to the PTL Television Network.
You are watching the Jim Baker Family Show.
Mondo, Mondo was just telling me he has a word for you guys today.
I have a word.
Oh, boy.
The word is God loves you.
He really does.
You know, the broadcast.
Yeah, you know, we're not ending the broadcast, by the way.
You know, I think about the goodness of the Lord that he calls you even if you don't feel prepared.
Even if you don't feel qualified, even if your insecurities are all there and you have to deal with them, especially, you know, I'll give you a little secret about me since you mentioned something.
You know, growing up and then being on television, you realize that you have to talk properly.
Yes.
And not realizing that I have an accent.
So there are certain words that don't come out right in English because I'm thinking about them in Spanish.
Yeah.
But, you know, God still uses that.
And I want to tell you something.
Whatever is discouraging you with whatever insecurity you're dealing with, just know that he made you perfect just the way you are.
And he loves you and he's going to use you.
Don't give up because you don't feel qualified.
Well, Moses had a tremendous stutter to the point where he says, I'm not even going to go and ask for it or let my people go.
You know, so praise God that he uses us.
The most encouraging thing I ever heard was, I think it was from Bishop Ron Webb.
I was in Poplar Bluff when I listened to this.
It's a little brash, so you have to excuse me.
He goes, God has called you despite your stupidity.
He knew you were going to make mistakes.
He knew that you weren't going to be perfect.
He knew that temptations would come and you may succumb.
He knew that you'd have overcoming.
He knew that you'd be great some days and you wouldn't be great some days.
Yet he says, I've called you.
I've put an anointing on your life.
I've given you a gift that is without reproach that I'm not going to take back from you.
And he allows us to walk this life.
And the Bible says a righteous man falls, but what does he do?
You're not a righteous man if you lay down there, wallow in, and never get back up.
You're a righteous man because you get back up.
A man after God's own heart, David.
If you looked at that man's track record, I guarantee you there's not a church in America who would let that man come preach.
They wouldn't.
They wouldn't say, hey, come be on our staff.
Come, you know, come be with us on a Sunday.
Host a conference for us.
We wouldn't do it because we look at it and say, ah, the boy, you know, you've got a good testimony.
That boy is definitely not going to be on staff here.
But the Lord said, it's a man after my own heart.
Why was it?
Because he's a man who loved Christ.
He loved God in the Christ form.
And he also, he was a man of repentance, Mondo.
Wow.
So, Mondo, God knew what we were going to be like, and yet he still calls us.
He still uses us.
You know, the word repentance is a word that very few people are willing to preach about, let alone write about.
That's right.
And chapter seven of this book, I'm so glad you talked about it, Ricky, because our special guest deals with repentance.
And I want to tell you something.
Here it is.
A bloodline that doesn't deal with repentance is going to carry on with pride.
And pride will bring you down so fast, yet repenting daily, carrying your cross daily, dying daily is going to be the key to finding what God has for you today.
We want to welcome back to the program, Pastor Robert Henderson, as we dive into biblical strategies and powerful steps to ensure your descendants carry forward a legacy of blessing and not a legacy of generational curses.
So that leads me to my question for you, Pastor Henderson.
How can I ensure that my family lives with generational blessings and no longer generational curses?
Yeah, that's a really, really good question.
You know, Hebrews 11, 13, it's always been a challenge to me because the Bible says these all died in faith.
Talking about Abraham, Isaac, Jacob.
These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen it afar off.
And years ago, I felt like the Lord challenged me and he said these words.
He said, If your vision is not bigger than your lifetime, then it's not God.
Because Abraham had a vision that was bigger than his own natural lifetime.
And it was going to take generation after generation after generation to see the fulfillment of that.
Well, the enemy understands that.
So here's what he does: he uses generational curses as a means to prohibit us from seeing legacy being created and vision being established and people being able from generation to generation to fulfill the purposes of God.
You see, Daniel chapter 4, Daniel said this.
He said, the kingdom of God is everlasting, but his dominion is from generation to generation.
In other words, each generation has a job to do, but the next generation builds off of what the previous generation has done.
Again, the enemy wants to interrupt that God-ordained process by bringing generational curses to stop every generation from increasing and seeing that legacy come to pass.
And so I believe that one of the greatest strategies of the devil is to get generational issues working in a bloodline.
And of course, in my book that we're talking about, I actually talk about two main things the enemy uses to prohibit legally, to stop legally God's purposes from progressing from generation to generation.
One is iniquity.
And Exodus 20, verse 5 says that God would, that there would be a visiting, a visiting of the iniquity to the third and fourth generation.
Okay, and then, but then there's also covenants with demons.
They're separate things.
They're different things.
And whereas iniquity can only be used to the fourth generation.
In other words, if we know how to call in what I call God's statute of limitation, that we say you cannot use anything past four generations.
That's the standard of God's word.
But then in Psalms 105, God says covenant is forever.
Covenant is everlasting.
So the enemy, here's what he does.
He takes advantage of the standard of God's word.
And he says, okay, if someone made a covenant with demon powers through whatever means in our bloodline, well, that can be used perpetually against us until we stop it.
Both issues require for us to go into the court of heaven and undo that so we can break off the generational curses that's wanting to stop the generational legacy from coming to pass.
You know, it makes me think about this.
Everyone needs practical ways of understanding.
That's the key, understanding what this means.
Because if you don't understand what this means, listen, you're going to be stuck in the same place you were 5, 10, 20, 30 years ago.
And the older we get, the more stuck we get.
And we don't want to be that way.
We want to be able to help our generations below us understand that there's ways to be freed.
And if you can find that freedom through understanding, then that's going to be a key for you.
This is what we want to do.
We want you to get this book operating in the courts of heaven to cleanse your bloodline, cancel the enemy's case against you and your family and your future.
Call us today, 1-888-988-1588.
Or better yet, visit us at the website, ptl.tv, and you're going to get this information in your hands.
Make sure you order as well.
They're operating in the courts of heaven.
This edition right here is the one that we started with, and it's the foundation to help us understand what does it mean to be in the courts of heaven.
How do we plea our case?
What's against us?
And if you don't understand that, then you may be battling something that you don't understand and is going to hold you back from the destiny that God has for you.
Then he has this little booklet called Receiving Deliverance from the Courts of Heaven.
Reclaim what the Enemy Has Stolen from Your Life from Pastor Robert Henderson.
Pastor, I have to ask you this question and welcome back to the program.
We love you.
We appreciate you.
We miss seeing you here.
Your hair is getting longer.
It's looking good.
I'm a little jealous, but one day I'll get there.
But I have to ask you this question, sir.
What is the key?
That's the point.
What is the key to protecting the bloodline after cleansing?
Is there more maintenance after that?
Yeah, I think that once we get our bloodline clean, which, by the way, I feel like that I have dealt with, because I've been doing this for so many years, that I have dealt with pretty much anything in my history, my ancestral history, that could hinder me and could hinder my future, but also the future of my children.
Because people ask me all the time, they say, okay, how can we know what's in our bloodline?
And I say, well, I'm going to be really, really spiritual here.
Here's the way you can know what's in your bloodline, at least to begin with.
Number one, look at your own life.
Look at your siblings' life.
Look then at your parents.
Look at your grandparents if you know them or knew them.
Look at your children.
Look at your grandchildren if you should have.
I promise you, when you look both ways, up and down your generations, you're going to see iniquitous patterns.
See, in my bloodline, I see addictions.
Addictions are a major issue in my bloodline.
I see sexual perversions, which, by the way, is most common in almost every bloodline.
I see issues of anger, anger, anger issues, and all these kind of things.
I look and I see those.
So I began repenting concerning those things.
And this is what I found.
If I'll be faithful to know what I'm, to deal with what I know, God will reveal anything I don't know.
Because then I started having dreams about issues in my bloodline that I was able then to take into the courts of heaven and deal with.
But it all started with me dealing with what I knew that was there by what I just described.
Now, once you do that, once we do that, I believe that we can then begin to pray prayers like saying, okay, God, set, if you will, set a bloodline, not the bloodline, but set a blood boundary, if you will, that keeps the adversary from being able to claim any rights to visit previous iniquities, our covenants with demons against my generations.
And we can begin to set things in place just through prayer in regards to setting things in order for our children, our grandchildren, our great-grandchildren, and so forth to have the destiny God ordained.
Because there is a destiny that God has ordained for all of us.
And friends, it is our responsibility to take hold of our generation, the next generation.
Mondo, we can't control what our grandparents did.
No, can't even control what our parents have done.
But Mondo, we can take control of the day we're living in right now and say, you know what?
It stops with me.
It's not going to go to my children or my children's children.
You know, we invest a lot of money and information and time on going to, for example, ancestry.com to try to find our family tree or DNA.
And you start learning stories about your family members.
But I'm amazed how many people don't go back and really realize the importance of their spiritual aspect of the DNA.
And when I went and I saw my DNA, I saw how many of my ancestors failed at certain aspects of their lives, meaning that I was failing in the same aspects that they were challenged with.
And I began to take something different, which was understanding the courts of heaven on how to stop the curse.
I realized that a lot of the men in my legacy and my family tree were being cursed by dying by a certain age.
The way they died, they were trying to do business and that business failed.
And they, I mean, it went on and on and on.
And I want to tell you something.
Most of the men that were part of my legacy, they left home.
They never stayed home.
They married other people.
I mean, it went on and on.
Pastor, I got to ask you this again because when we come to Christ and we give our lives to the Lord, we have the power to break that curse.
Now, how do we enter into the courts of heaven where we can succeed at one marriage, where we can succeed at staying at home and being able to be a father and be able to also be successful where the areas where our ancestors failed, could that bloodline follow through and be stopped?
Absolutely.
And you know, what you're saying right there, just recognizing what's in our bloodline, it shows us what to set a guard against.
I mean, stop and think about this.
What you just described of marriages or issues in the bloodline, whether marriages were destroyed, or multiple women were, or whatever, spouses were had, or dying prematurely.
All of a sudden, because we are aware of the curses that have operated in the bloodline, okay, now I know not only what I need to deal with spiritually, I also know how to set a guard.
I heard a man years ago make this statement because he was a minister and he said he thought if there was any area in his life where he was beyond temptation, where he it couldn't happen, it was in his relationship with his wife and being faithful to her.
Well, guess what happened?
He failed in that area.
And this is what he said.
Determined to Change 00:04:44
I'll never forget this.
This is what he said.
He said, I discovered that an unguarded strength is a double weakness.
In other words, let him that thinks he stands take heed lest he falls.
So I think, first of all, from our bloodline, we can say, okay, this is what tried or was successful in detouring and interrupting success in my bloodline.
Okay, I'm going to be aware of that.
I'm going to set a guard against that in my own heart and in my own life.
But then, in addition to that, we know how to go into the courts of heaven and say, okay, this will not determine the future and the destiny.
I repent.
This is what I do.
I repent for that which is in my bloodline.
I take ownership of it.
Ask for the blood of Jesus to speak, and I ask that any legal claim the enemy is claiming to use that against me, it is revoked and it is removed.
You know, in the book, I actually, because you find this quite often, I actually deal with this whole issue of premature death.
In the last few chapters of the book, I talk about how so many people die before their time.
And I go in and I examine all the different sins in the Bible that led to premature death and say, okay, we need to repent for these issues that led to the premature death of Eli's or of Aaron's sons, of Eli's sons, of this one, of that one.
Because you have scriptures throughout the Bible that talks about this one did this, therefore that happened.
And if we discover any of that in our own life or in our bloodline, we take that into the court of heaven and we say, no, this will not determine my destiny.
It will not determine how long I live.
It will not determine how long my children live.
We will live long and satisfying lives for the purposes of the kingdom.
Amen.
You know, Mondo, a lot of the times we realize we don't realize, excuse me, that we are even accidentally speaking word curses over ourselves or even over our families.
When we sit there and we wallow in self-pity or we allow negative thoughts to come and we start just saying them and saying, you know, this is who I am.
This is where we are.
We're stuck here forever.
We don't even realize that we're putting a curse on ourselves and potentially on our families as well.
Wow.
I can't believe you're bringing that up because yesterday I had this situation happen with someone very close to me and they live under this curse that everything is supposed to be sad and all their conversation is always about the past.
And anytime they get into the now moment, they don't know how to react to it.
It's like they seclude themselves into a corner and they don't know how to interact with freedom.
And they are trying to pull me down to their level.
And I finally said, no, I'm going to stop you right there.
That's not how my life is right now.
That's not how my life is going to be.
In my family right now that God has given me with my two kids and my wife, we will learn communication.
We are going to learn what we feel.
We are going to learn to move away from the past and not make it a conversation where it becomes a centerpiece of our identity.
And this person kind of got offended, but yet I realize if I don't break this pattern now, it's going to continue every time they see me, every time we talk to me, every time we get together, all they want to do is go back to the past.
What you're saying right now is what many people are going to.
The same conversations you had with the people that you loved 20 years ago, if you're still having them today, you got to break that curse.
Don't have it now.
God has set us free when he sent his only begotten son, Jesus Christ, to die for our sins, forgive us of our sins, and he has made us what the Bible calls new creatures.
Amen.
And praise God that we are.
Oh, man, I don't want to live in the past.
Yeah, that's right.
It's strange to go back to our old bondage that we do.
It's human nature.
But praise God, we have a good advocate who helps us, directs us, and we have the Holy Spirit who can give us guidance.
Friends, we'll be right back.
Return with Pastor Henderson on operating in the courts of heaven to cleanse your bloodline.
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Pastor, I want to ask you this question about this apostolic teaching that you have done.
How does the seven mountain mandate relate to the bloodline cleansing?
Well, one of the things that I teach, we can go into the courts of heaven for ourselves and for our families, but we can also go in to the courts of heaven in behalf of the culture we're a part of.
And that's where the seven mountains come in, because it's the seven mountains that actually become the shaper and the former, if you will, that which formed and fashions the society that we are a part of.
Stepping Into Spiritual Dimension 00:06:00
And of course, Lance Wall now is a very, very good friend of mine.
And we have had discussions about how to go into the court of heaven and take down the principality and power that are ruling each one of those seven mountains.
So we go into the court and we as God's people make a case against that power of darkness and ask for a judgment out of the court of heaven of that which is controlling the business mountain or controlling the religion mountain or controlling the government mountain or the arts of entertainment mountain that we're asking for God to judge it so that it loses its influence so that that mountain can be reformed and that mountain can be taken.
And so you have to undo that power of darkness or we'll never take it.
I believe the court of heaven is a strategic piece to knowing how to go before the courts, make the case and ask for God the judge to render a verdict against that power of darkness so that that mountain becomes free to have the influence it's supposed to have in the economy of God.
You know, Mondo, this is an economic system we follow here in the world.
We've seen it fail a couple of times in the United States as well as globally, but there's also God's economy, and that's the economy that I think we should be living by.
And this is why this ministry depends on God's economy for support.
There's nothing more greater than to see faith in action when things don't look good.
And you have been a part of that moment with this ministry because every time you really sit down, either you write a check or you make the decision to get one of the products or you send your monthly check and your donations to keep us on the air.
That's called faith in action.
And we live by that economy knowing that God is going to touch your heart.
Because if you love this ministry, you love the mission and the vision that this ministry has had over the years.
That's what we rely on.
When it doesn't look good, when all the roads are closed, God makes a way when there is no way.
There's been a lot of business people that have told us, I don't know how you guys are still afloat, meaning I don't know how you guys keep going because everything has come against you guys.
And look at where you are today.
And that's because God works differently.
I want to tell you something.
If God is touching your heart today, and if you've been praying and watching and telling us that you love this ministry, would you make a decision today and stand with us?
The number to call is 1-888-988-1588.
We could use your support.
Amen.
Listen, we don't believe on what's happening out there in the world.
We stand on what God has called us to do and the faith that we're in right now, knowing that God will supply all the needs.
I love that word all.
And it means all of it.
Pastor, if somebody wants to get any one of these books that we have here, we have Operating the Courts of Heavens to Cleanse Your Bloodline, Receiving Deliverance from the Courts of Heaven, and Operating in the Courts of Heaven.
Would you give us a quick synopsis on what these books are about and how the Lord downloaded this to you?
Well, the books are about stepping into the spiritual dimension.
I tell people that the court of heaven is not a method of praying, it's a dimension of the spirit.
That we literally, by faith, you don't have to be some supernatural, you know, level prophet or something.
You just got to be a person that loves God and that you desire to do what God wants you to do.
Well, here's what you do: you, by faith, this is the way I do it.
You step into that dimension in the courts.
And then these books actually teach you how to make a case in the courts for several different things, for deliverance, for issues with family and future, for bloodline issues, whatever it may be, that we can step into the court of heaven and make a case before the Lord and ask as a result, just like we would at a natural judge, ask for the judge to render verdicts in our behalf and for us.
And of course, the way that I got the revelation was out of desperation.
I've been a man of prayer since 1980.
Well, here's the deal: all of a sudden, after all those years of praying, it seemed like my prayers weren't working and I couldn't figure out why.
And that's when the Lord started showing me the reason the prayers weren't working was because the enemy had a legal case against me to deny me the right to come and request of God.
And whenever I dealt with the legal issue, the legal case the enemy had against me in the court of heaven, all of a sudden, unbelievable breakthroughs started breaking out and breaking loose.
And that's what I've tried to help people to understand.
It's not that God's not hearing you.
It's not that God doesn't love you.
It's not that God doesn't care.
It's that there's a legal case.
I teach you in these books how to undo that legal case so that your prayers start having the effect that God intended.
The effect that God intended.
Friends, we are to live by faith, and I believe you're about to start walking into a faith walk in your life.
Make sure that you are rooted in the Word of God during this season.
Pastor Henderson, I want to say thank you for being on the broadcast with us today.
And, friends, call that number: it's 1-888-988-1588.
Consider standing with the ministry, but we want to pray with you, for your family, your loved ones.
We want to stand in the gap for you.
Go check out our new website, it's ptl.tv.
We'll be adding new things to it as well.
We wanted to shorten the name just a little bit, less letters, Mondo.
PTL.tv.
We'll put it up on the screen so you can go and check out that website.
God bless you.
You remember this.
God loves you.
He really does.
Bye-bye for today.
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