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July 14, 2025 - Jim Bakker Show
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The Jim Bakker Show with Brigitte Gabriel Part 2
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Why We Saw Demonstrations Against Israel 00:15:37
Welcome to the Jim Baker Family Show.
Today, our special guest is author of Rise, Brigitte Gabriel.
Our co-host today is Reverend Mondo de la Vega.
And now, here is your host, Pastor Ricky Baker.
Hello, friends.
You're watching the PTL Television Network.
Today, we want to welcome back Brigitte Gabriel to our program.
She is a national security analyst, New York Times best-selling author, and chairman of Act for America.
Brigitte, I want to say thank you for being back on the broadcast with us today.
Thank you.
Delighted to be back with you.
So, from the last time, not yesterday's interview, but from the last time you were on with us, tell us some of the things that has been happening with you, some of the things that you're championing forward, and how can our partners go and support you?
Oh, thank you.
Well, right now, we are working full force into codifying all President Trump's executive orders.
You know, he signed all these executive orders to repair the damage that the Biden administration had done to the country.
And so, right now, we are working all hands on deck to make sure we introduce into and pass into law all these executive orders to make sure that whether we keep the House in the midterm election or not next year, we have 12 months to pass all these laws because we know Congress, especially the House, we're standing on a cliff.
You know, it can go either way.
We're not guaranteed we're going to keep the House.
So, we want to make sure in the next 12 months we pass all these bills.
So, for those who are concerned about the direction of the country, who want to stand with President Trump to making America great again, to keeping America safe, to preserving our Judeo-Christian values, we want to make sure you go sign up to our emails,
actforamerica.org, to make sure you are notified when we start introducing these bills, when they are introduced in Congress, when they are coming down for a vote, you can take action and you can make your voice heard so we can help the president cement his agenda and cement all the changes that we have already now experienced just in the six months he took office.
We want to make sure that agenda continues and all this action will remain regardless of the outcome of the maternal election.
You know, we last episode, we wanted to talk about this sleeper cells in America.
You've warned about sleeper cell threats and how the high is or the risk is very high domestically here.
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I want to ask you this question.
How high is the domestic risk right now in the United States of America?
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You can order it there as well.
So, Brigitte, this is the question is how high is the domestic risk right now for sleeper cell terrorism?
We see a church struck, but people are saying, well, that's not, you know, terrorism because it was done by someone here that wasn't radicalized.
But, you know, we can justify things all day long.
But is there a risk for domestic terrorism within our border walls?
There is a major threat of domestic terrorism.
And look, somebody walking into a church and trying to kill people is a terrorist.
You cannot sugarcoat it.
You cannot put a lipstick on a pig.
It's still a pig.
When you are talking about people who are willing to kill others in the name of their ideology, that's terrorism.
And that's exactly what we are concerned about.
Now, we know because of the open border policy under the Biden administration, where we allowed millions of people to enter our country unvetted.
I mean, Ricky, they were coming through the border.
Literally, the agents would ask them, what's your name?
And somebody would say, my name is whatever, you know, Roberto Gonzalez.
They would literally write it on a yellow pad, on a sticky note, put it on a tape on their arm, and that became their ID.
And they were able to fly them on that ID, transport them across states on that ID.
We didn't know anything about them.
We have no idea who came into the country.
And according to my friend Tom Holman, we know that 1,273 Iranians crossed the border in the last four years, and they are right here in our country.
So the threat is here.
And not just from the Iranians, by the way, from all bad actors who came from all over the world who crossed our borders.
So I don't believe we're going to see an attack against America on the scale of 9-11, 2001, because the command center in Iran is destroyed after the bombardment of Israel.
The bulls are not going to be able to connect and communicate with their proxies across the world, and definitely not in the United States the way they were able to before the Israeli attack.
So while we're not going to see an attack on a massive scale, like a coordinated attack on the scale of 9-11, we are going to see lone wolf attacks, which could be just as dangerous.
I mean, can you imagine somebody strapping a suicide belt on their body and walking in Times Square on a Saturday night?
Just imagine the hundreds of people that they will injure and kill.
So the threat is a threat and it is very dangerous, whether it's committed by a long wolf or whether it's committed by an organized cell with multiple people involved in the operation.
We live in dangerous times and that's exactly why I tell people, if you see something, say something.
If you see something, do something.
Call the police.
Call the officials.
You may say your tip may save the lives of hundreds of people and make a difference for our country.
Don't be shy.
Don't be politically correct.
If your instinct, if somewhere inside you where you feel something is out of place, make sure you notify the authority.
Brigitte, as you're talking, I'm thinking about the last few months.
We have seen a lot of major voices.
I'm not going to name the names, but I think you know who I'm talking about that are now going against President Trump.
They're going against what Israel is doing.
And when you listen to them, they bring up some great points.
But at the same time, we're witnessing a division within the United States.
What do you make of all the talks that a lot of influential voices are coming against President Trump and the decision that he has made to bomb Iran, especially their facilities?
Look, President Iran did the whole world a favor, not just the United States.
And this has nothing to do with the Israel Mundo.
This is about America.
Remember, Iran funded and has been funding terrorism on four continents, four continents across the globe through its proxies.
Look, Hezbollah Holon committed terrorist attacks on four continents across the globe.
Look how Iran funded Hezbollah in Lebanon.
They funded the Shiite militias in Iraq.
They funded Hamas in Gaza.
They are funding the Houthis in Yemen.
Iran is responsible.
Iran is the master funder of terror attacks across the globe.
So what we did with Iran needed to be done for the peace and security of the world.
And look, we are, the world is safer today and better today than it was 12 days ago because of what Israel did.
Now, I know a lot of people were very concerned in America because, oh, we do not want to get involved into another war.
We do not want another Iraq or Afghanistan.
This is very different.
This is not Iraq and Afghanistan.
When we attacked Iran, we did not attack Iran to bring about regime change.
President Trump was very clear about that.
He's not there to do a regime change.
We committed a precise and strategic attack against a terror infrastructure, against a terror project.
That's what we attacked, a terrorist infrastructure, not the country.
But we wanted to make sure we take out the nuclear reactor.
If we wanted to attack a country, we would have taken out the mullahs like that, and we would not have even needed to take care of the nuclear reactor.
Because if you replace a new regime, if you put your own government in there by taking away the government, toppling the government of the country, then you wouldn't have to worry so much about the nuclear reactor because you could go in there and just take it over.
This is not what we wanted to do.
What we did in Iraq is we did go in, topple the regime, and put ourselves in the country and try to write a new constitution.
I mean, my gosh, America wrote the new constitution for Iraq.
We're not trying to do that in Iran.
And I think President Trump has proved to those who doubted him, those who went against him, who did not understand or have confidence in him and his true intentions of really, really not wanting to go to war or change the regime in Iran.
I think today when they look back at the attack, they're going to realize he is a man of peace.
He went in and took a strategic operation where he took out the nuclear reactor and we came back.
We're not going to change the regime.
As a matter of fact, we put the Kabash on Israel and Iran and said, look, you're going to have a ceasefire.
You're going to enforce a ceasefire.
No more bloodshed.
We want to see the two countries get along.
The major threat already is removed from Iran.
There is no more threat with their nuclear reactor.
Now you two make it work.
And that's where President Iran stands right now.
Wow.
You know, I asked you this question because we've been seeing the internet being weaponized right now.
So how exactly is social media being used to reshape people's minds, their opinions?
And what can families do to block it?
Because we're seeing parents write letters and email us and saying, we don't know what we do.
You know, we raised our children a certain way, but now they've gone off to high school and college.
And now they have full access to the internet anytime.
They're coming back with ideologies that we didn't teach them and we don't know where they're coming from.
Exactly.
And that's exactly why in my book, Rise in Defense of Judeo-Christian Values and Freedom, I have a whole chapter about the internet and I call it the new theater of war.
The internet truly has become the new theater of war because this is where the battle is fought.
The battle is fought not with bullets, but with stealing and brainwashing the minds of our future generations.
This is how the West is deteriorating from the inside.
And this is how the Islamic world is growing and unifying and coming together.
And that's exactly, for example, why Hamas named the attack against Israel, the Al-Aqsa flood.
Remember the October 7th attack.
And why did they provoke the name of Al-Aqsa?
Because they know that on the internet, this is going to trend worldwide.
And all Muslims worldwide, once the name of Al-Aqsa is invoked, they're going to come together against Israel.
And it worked.
I mean, look how the whole world turned against Israel.
From Australia to Canada to England to France to every corner in the world.
We have seen demonstrations against Israel.
We have seen demonstrations that are so organized and so coordinated, even though, you know, different countries, you have seen the same running theme.
And it was all coordinated on the internet.
Because whether you are living in London or in New York, you both can be a part of the same chat room, following the same TikTok accounts, following the same Instagram accounts, receiving the same talking points and implementing whatever strategy you are trying to do.
This is where the internet becomes so effective in a bad way.
You know, the internet, I always call it, it's a blessing and a curse.
It's a blessing because we get to expose to what's happening around the world.
We can use it in a way that is amazing to change our businesses, to promote our businesses.
You have seen a lot of businesses, lots on the internet without even a storefront.
You're seeing young people in their 30s become millionaires by businesses they built on the internet.
Yet on the other side, you have seen the internet being hijacked by certain radical Islamic element that is using it to recruit worldwide, to recruit killers, to grow hate, to grow resentment, to vilify a whole race of people, the Jewish people.
And so this is why it is important to monitor what your kids read on the internet.
It's important to monitor the access your children have to the internet.
Why We Left Google 00:04:15
You know, when the cell phones came out, every parent said, oh, I need to give my child a cell phone because we need to be able to communicate.
Okay, fine.
Back then, we didn't have computers on our phone.
I mean, look, we sit and we have our phones.
We are hooked to them.
This is a computer I'm holding in my hand, not just a cell phone where I can check email.
I can go to websites.
That technology was not available 20 years ago.
So today, when you give your child a cell phone, make sure that cell phone is only a cell phone where your child can communicate with you as to where they're about.
They can only make phone calls and receive phone calls.
They're not sitting in their classroom texting and playing, talking with their friends or playing games, not paying attention to the class, or even worse, being recruited to the bad side.
Whether, you know, whatever the danger may be, human trafficking, drugs, terrorism, Islamic radicalism, all that can change by the parents being very careful and vigilant and how much access they give their children to the internet.
Wow.
You know, Mario, your children are about to be 15 years of age.
How much access do they have to the internet?
Very little.
Why is that though?
Because I noticed the difference in how you raise kids today compared to with kids with internet versus without internet.
My kids can engage in information with myself and my wife and other people.
They can carry conversations.
They're not swayed to go either way.
I think the ability to, you know, introduce your kids into the internet world depends on you as a parent.
Because once you allow them to serve the internet by themselves, it's no holds bar.
Now, understand there's a lot of information out there that needs to be understood.
And if you don't understand a lot of the information that is out there, now you are reshaping the thought process and the values and the core values of what you stand for.
My kids today are still kids and they can enjoy their childhood without feeling the pressure that they have to grow up.
Now, does that mean that I'm keeping my kids from information?
Absolutely not.
My wife and I are very transparent on everything that our kids are going to go through and allow them to give them importance to understand how to develop their mind and their own opinion and thought process.
But then we come back and have a discussion.
I want to tell you something.
Very few people, very few parents are willing to understand what that looks like because it takes a lot of work.
If you want change in America, you have to put in the work.
You have to be consistent every day.
But I want to tell you something.
Parents today are disengaging from the conversation.
No wonder we have kids going out and they're building their own theological view about the Bible, their own ideas about America and what America should be.
I mean, I grew up understanding that there is no way you come close to be radical to socialism.
Now I'm around young men and women that they think that socialism is the way to go.
All I have to say is this: go to Cuba and tell me how it goes.
Go to Venezuela for one hour and tell me if you have the same ideology.
And they're going to come back and say, oh my God, you were right.
Not because I was right.
No, it's because socialism is wrong.
Everything about it.
So I sit down and talk to my son and my daughter about what does socialism look like.
Firsthand's experience.
And I want to tell you something.
I always tell people this: if you don't have the information, don't get into a conversation.
You're going to introduce confusion.
You're going to introduce ideologies that don't even exist in the Bible.
And I want to tell you something.
We are leading and giving away our kids to an internet process that is not even ready to be put out there.
The Immigration Dilemma 00:04:18
Now, it's available for us to use, but artificial intelligence has been introduced into our platforms without being tested first.
Yet, we don't even look at that as a big problem.
Again, I think the responsibility at the end of the day is at home.
Amen.
You know, Brigitte, as we talked about this, you were talking about the border issue, how there's obviously been sleeper cells coming into our border.
It brings up the issue of immigration.
You know, you call for rethinking immigration.
And, you know, what policy changes would you protect?
What policy changes would you implement to protect our civic values?
Well, look, I'm a legal immigrant to this country.
I am all for legal immigration.
But legal immigration, the way it used to be done.
Look, when I came to America, I went to the embassy.
You knock on the door.
You say, hey, may I come visit your country?
Can you please give me a visa and permission allowing me to visit your country?
The American embassy gives you a visa.
You pay for your visa.
I paid 50 bucks for my visa in Jerusalem.
And I bought my own airline ticket.
I came to the United States.
I started filing my paper, doing it the right way.
I had to take all the medical testing.
I was tested for leprosy.
I was tested for tuberculosis.
And I hated Beatles.
But I gladly went and took the test because that was part of the process for me to get the green card to start the process to become an American citizen.
When I got the green card, I had to study for, I had to wait for four years and study a four-inch, two-inch thick book written by the daughters of the American Revolution about America's history, our constitution, our judicial process.
And then I had to take an exam, an oral exam, as well as a written exam in English, by the way, about our constitution, our history, our judicial process, our branches of government, etc., and pass in order for me to become an American.
By the time I became an American, I knew more about America and its history than my own American-born husband did.
That's the right way to become an American.
Because when you earn something, when you work so hard to earn something, you value it, you cherish it.
You work so hard to prove to your host country that I was worth the gamble when you took a gamble on me and allowed me to become a citizen into your country.
And I want to prove myself that I was worthy of your trust.
And we work hard and we save money and we pay our taxes and we contribute to this country and we build businesses because we want to become a part of the American fabric.
We want to contribute to the greatness of America.
We want to contribute to what make this country the greatest country on the face of the planet.
America is a country of immigrants, legal immigrants, not criminal aliens who are breaking the law to come into our country to steal your taxes, my taxes, steal from our children's mouth all the benefits, all our children's benefits that we worked so hard that they should be entitled to.
We're squandering that away on criminals, putting them in five-star hotels, giving them cell phones, all of that stuff.
I am against all that.
So you can tell this is a very sensitive issue with somebody who immigrated to this country legally.
This is exactly why legal immigrants in this country are on the side of President Trump.
This is what's shocking, CNN, shock, shock, but it's reality because we worked so hard to be an American to become Americans.
Why are they squandering it on people who don't even deserve it, who hate our country, who are just coming to our country to siphon off the system, not to contribute to the system?
So we, Act for America, my organization, again, I encourage people to go to our website, act4america.org, right now.
We are working very closely with Tom Homan, with President Trump, with the whole presidential team.
Continue to Fight 00:04:52
We're working with members of Congress to make sure the border is secure and will remain secure, whether President Trump is in office or not.
That's why we're trying to codify all the executive orders he signed and turn them into bills to make sure that no matter who comes after President Trump, whether we win the midterm election or not, or whether whoever comes after President Trump in three years, we want to make sure our border will remain secure and safe.
Our immigration policy is cemented in the ground, unchangeable, regardless of who comes into office.
Listen, understand that God has used Christian television to bring a great awakening and a revival many years ago.
And I believe that God is about to do it again.
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Amen.
We want to say thank you for standing with us.
It means the world to us.
It allows us to continue to tell everyone around the world that tunes in that God loves them, He has a plan for their life and that Jesus Christ is the only way to heaven.
We'll never back down from that position.
Why?
Because that is the word of God.
And we choose to, by faith, believe every word of the word of God.
Brigitte, I want to say thank you for being such a strong advocate for the United States of America and for what is right.
You know, we have a set of rules that is a constitution.
We abide by those rules.
And anyone who says, you know what, it's time to destroy those rules or break them without consequence.
Well, friends, that's lawbreaking and there's a price to be paid for that.
But Brigitte, you have made sure that you have championed forward the right way of doing things.
If somebody wants to get behind what you're doing or see all the different things that you're doing, again, tell them what they can go, how they can support, and the best way to find you.
I thank you.
Yes, please go to actforamerica.org.
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Amen.
We need believers to act for America as well.
I still stand by this statement that the Christian force is the strongest force that has ever existed and that will ever exist here on this earth.
Why?
Because we have the one true living God on our side propelling us in the direction of holiness, righteousness, purity.
Now, friends, I understand that we all humans, we're all imperfect, we fall down, but the Bible says it very clear.
A righteous man falls down, but he gets back up.
Continue to get back up.
Continue to fight the good fight.
Put your armor on every day and realize we're fighting a spiritual war more than the physical flesh that you wear.
There is a spiritual battle ensuing in the heavenlies right now.
And you can be a part of it to ensure that we push and we push and we push and we fight back against the enemy that wants to see our families destroyed, our nation destroyed, our communities destroyed.
But we say not one more inch.
Call that number, it's 1-888-988-1588.
Or you can go to our affiliate program and get and receive this book, Rise by Brigitte Gabriel.
Brigitte, I want to say thank you for being on the broadcast with us today.
What a blessing.
And until next time, we'll see you, friends.
Remember this: God loves you.
He really does.
Bye-bye for today.
God bless you.
Glory in my mission is to fulfill the great commission of Jesus Christ to go into all the world and preach the gospel to every person.
I want to thank you for standing with us and for your support.
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