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May 30, 2025 - Jim Bakker Show
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The Jim Bakker Show with Joseph Z Part 4
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We Come Back As Bishop 00:09:25
Welcome to the Jim Baker Family Show.
Today, we discuss legacy and restoration, turning hearts back to God with Joseph Z. Our co-host today is Reverend Mondo de la Vega.
And now, here's your host, Pastor Ricky Baker.
Hello, friends.
You're watching the PTL Television Network.
We're excited to have with us day four, Pastor Joseph Zamon.
Come on.
Yeah, good to be with you, Ricky.
Thanks.
You've been here four days.
I think we have to upgrade you to a bishop.
Okay.
Bishop, Joseph.
Thank you.
You know, we have Pastor Jim Baker.
He is funny with titles.
You know, we'll have our bishop.
He's one of the bishops overseers for the ministry.
He's a really good man, but he calls him rabbi, which is really funny.
You know, he's like, brother, I'm not a rabbi.
He calls Rabbi Jonathan Kahn bishop.
Brother, you got every title here.
Man of God.
We love having you back here.
You know, we were talking just between broadcasts, and the show topic today is legacy and restoration.
Yeah.
The Bible says it very clearly that those who are spiritual restore one another in the spirit of meekness.
And it says a little warning right after that, lest the same thing that overtook them overtake you.
It is important that we are who are spiritual.
Now, everyone loves to call themselves spiritual, but the true test of are you actually spiritual is the restoration test.
Oh, that's so true.
You know, there's an understanding that so many people think that it's just kind of K Sarah Sarah.
Whatever God's going to do, he's in control.
We're all just kind of along for the ride.
And I believe it's somewhere in the middle.
There's things where God begins to speak and he's going to do that.
And other things, he's looking for our cooperation.
And I really, if I could, I want to get into something on the whiteboard.
Please do it.
Is that something we can do?
Yeah, I'm going to run over there.
I'm going to.
Take it away, Johnny.
Come on, Johnny.
I want to talk about this because I believe so many times we believe in an extreme sovereignty of God.
And I believe in the sovereignty of God.
I believe that God is in control of what he says he's in control of.
But the other times the church begins to say, God's in control.
You never know what God's going to do.
That's really not true.
He's looking for a cooperation with his body.
We are the body of Christ becoming the bride of Christ in Revelation chapter 21.
But right now we're the hands and feet of Jesus in this world.
And so this is something we've got to understand.
So I'm going to draw a timeline for you, and I'm going to talk about what I believe our role is if we're going to really see the spirit of Elijah manifest in a culture.
So we don't have to do a big repeat of what other generations have done.
I believe through revelation, the power of the word of God, and our knowledge, our understanding of what the Lord has for us, that we can push back some of these nefarious things and maybe suspend some of the issues the devil wants to bring on this culture.
So let me show you.
So first of all, we realize, let's say that this line, and I'm going to draw this very quickly, this line represents eternity past and eternity future.
Okay.
When we're looking at this, this can represent creation.
Okay.
I'm just going to give you the whole enchilada real quick here.
Creation, Old Testament, law, prophets, all that in the Old Testament.
Then we come up to this point in time that is here.
And this is where Jesus came on the scene.
This is the most powerful moment in all of the universe and in all history when Jesus came, died, and was resurrected for us during this time.
Right after this, we know that we went into what is called the 2,000 years we've been in, known as the church age, the church age, okay?
Or the age of grace.
At the end of this time, it's going to stop.
And what happens here?
Well, it depends on your theology or your eschatology.
And for our purposes today, since I have the microphone, we'll go with mine.
And we recognize this, that I believe the rapture is going to happen.
Okay.
The rapture of the church.
Now, whether you believe in that in one, two, or three timeframes, I'll leave that between you and Jesus.
But here's what I want to say.
I believe during this time, we go into these two three and a half year segments of time.
And this is what is known as the Great Tribulation, right?
We begin to recognize the tribulation begins to happen.
There's all kinds of stuff.
Wormwood comes.
All these things take place.
This is where we have the Bema or marriage supper of the Lamb, the judgment seat of Christ.
After this, Armageddon breaks out, right?
We see this happening, and I believe we come back with him.
When I come back with the Lord, I want a lightsaber, Mondo.
I'm going to come back and be like, you believe what you want to believe?
I believe what I want to believe.
But you recognize you come back, and then Jesus is going to declare war on all this that's going on with the word of his mouth, and he's going to take the beast and the false prophet, and he's going to throw them in the lake of fire.
That's awesome.
Do not pass, go or collect $200.
They go straight here.
Then the devil is going to be locked up in the pit.
Just very quickly, we know this.
Then the thousand-year reign of Jesus, the millennium, begins to take place.
And then the devil's released after this time.
And when he's released, he gathers all the people of the world one more time into deception.
And then God sends fire down from heaven and consumes all these enemies himself.
God does this.
Then we go into the great right throne judgment.
And this is where everybody who's never served the Lord stands before him.
All these things begin to take place.
And then at this point, sadly, they're cast here.
And after this, even hell itself is picked up and thrown into the lake of fire.
Then we go to eternity future with the new heaven, the new earth.
Okay?
Now, this is something to be excited about because the greatest existence we're ever going to have, we know very little about.
We're going beyond this.
But here's what I want to talk about right now.
So you look at all this drama that's going to take place, but you have to ask the question.
So where are we now?
I believe we're about here.
Amen?
That's close.
We're right here.
We're right at the end of the age.
So what does this mean?
Let's expand this very quickly.
And I'm going somewhere with this, and I think it's going to help us today.
We understand that our lifespan is, you know, somewhere between here, here, here.
Some of us are either here, here, or here in 100 years, 120 years.
You look at this picture.
But here's what I believe is going on in the culture today.
So let's take this and say this isn't just our life.
This is what's going on in the time of our lifespan.
I saw something where the Spirit of the Lord showed me the nation of the United States.
I began to see this.
I saw it going like this and like that.
And you say, well, what is that about?
It was this scenario of the USA and nations like it.
We're talking about sheep nations, goat nations, all those things.
I believe that we're going to see this decline and we've seen it at 30, 60 to 100 fold time of difficulty, right?
And then during this time, I saw and I had a dream about this, a big storm that would come over the land.
This big storm that would come over the land, I saw things taking place with it.
And in this storm, one of the big things was going to not only be nuclear activity and difficulty around that.
I began to see a financial battle, a financial battle that would take place in this storm.
Now, I'm getting somewhere with this, and it's very important.
I saw in the middle of the storm the word revival.
Revival would break out in the storm, and revival is going to happen in the middle of these days, okay?
On the other side of this, according to what Ricky and, of course, Mondo and I've been talking about, I believe on the other side of revival will come reformation.
And I believe we're going to go into reformation after this.
Okay, and I'm going to really land this for a second.
And you're going to see this 30, 60, and 100 fold.
I believe we're going to see after this storm that we're not supposed to run from it.
We're supposed to run to it.
And when we do, the name of the Lord is that strong tower.
The righteous run to it and are safe.
We're going to go through this storm of society.
Then we're going to get to the other side.
And I believe things are going to come back at 30, 60, and 100 fold.
And I saw the words, the new America.
Okay.
And I believe this is for many nations.
I believe Canada is in the balance right now.
I believe many nations are in the balance right now.
So here's where I'm going with this.
I had this word that the Lord showed me about the next four years that I would see redemptive instability during this time.
And that includes 25, the year of fire.
26, I believe this is the pickup sticks year, and it can turn into Psalm 126 if the church will rise to it.
27, that's coming, of course.
But 2028, I believe, is the new beginning year.
This is something we're going to begin to see unfolding, 2028.
Now, the question I have is when you look at all this that's going on, do we have to give in to a spirit of Antichrist during this time?
Do we have to really see darkness pervade and take over the culture?
What do we do here?
Is this absolutely something that we cannot stop?
Is this something we can suspend?
Is this something we can change?
Well, I want to talk about that because we're here now.
We're right here.
And we're about to go into this whole narrative of eternity.
And right now, we have an opportunity to make a difference on society and in the culture.
And I want to present to you the thought process that God wants the cooperation of his church to stop an imminent destruction before the time really comes.
God's Unalterable Word 00:15:35
We know, number one, we cannot alter prophecy in the Bible.
Number two, you certainly cannot alter scripture.
Scripture is ironclad.
It is finished.
The canon is closed.
You can't alter that.
But I want to talk to you about something that I see in the word of God that I believe will give you hope to stand for the future.
So you see all this narrative.
We're right here.
We're in the middle of all this.
What comes next?
Let me talk to you about it.
Here's what we realize.
When we're looking at the word of God, I want to share something with us right now.
The word of God says this.
In Joshua chapter 10, verses 12 through 14.
Joshua, Ricky, was in battle.
Mondo, he was in battle.
And when he was in battle, he realized these guys are going to get away from me if I lose daylight.
If I lose daylight, these guys are going to get away from me.
Joshua, under the inspiration of his own heart, looks up at the sun and the moon and says, Hey, you stand still, stop.
And in that moment, I think the Lord is up there.
He looked at Gabriel, he looked at Michael, and he's like, Do you see what he just did?
And he was thinking about it.
He thought, not bad, not bad.
Okay, granted.
And I believe the sun and the moon stopped.
And you can clock this stuff in history that the calendars got reset at that time.
Joshua, under the unction and need of winning the battle, told the sun and moon to stand still.
I want to give you another example.
In Isaiah 38, verse 8, you see that there was a shadow that was going down on the sundial of Ahaz.
This sundial is going down and it's going down the stairs.
And through this king's cries and the things that were needed to happen, Isaiah the prophet stands up and cries out to the Lord, let the shadow no longer go forward down the stairs, move it backwards up the steps.
When Isaiah cries out, it happened.
The shadow went back up the steps.
In the year 689 BC, they clocked it to that timeframe.
There was a solar eclipse that happened.
So when Isaiah cries out to the Lord, he suspended or rolled the clock backwards for a moment and adjusted the plan of the natural.
Okay, that's second.
Let me give you a third one.
Exodus chapter 33, this is really important, and I'm just setting a precedent for where I'm going to land.
So please listen to me very carefully.
In Exodus 33, we see that Moses is there meeting with God, and he says, Show me your glory.
Show me your glory.
And God Almighty says to Moses, No man can see my face and live, but I'm going to pass before you, and I'm going to show you my back.
And he puts his hand over Moses.
Moses is in the cleft of the rock.
And as he's passing over, he's holding Moses at bay and says, I'm going to show you my back.
Now that word for back in the Hebrew is the Hebrew word akor, akor.
And a core doesn't just mean I'm going to show you how massive my back is.
It means I'm going to show you my past.
In other words, when Moses had God's hand put over him, I believe the next thing Moses saw was the water covering the earth, the face of the deep, and the spirit of the Lord hovering over it, and there was darkness.
And then Moses heard the words, Light be, or let there be light.
And Moses wrote the first five books of the Torah, the books of Moses.
He wrote that because I believe God took him back in time.
But that's not all that a core means.
It also means to go forward momentarily and go to a certain direction in the north.
And when this happened, Moses, I believe, saw the beginning.
He saw creation, and suddenly he was snapped back from that and then found himself standing in light that was brighter than any launderer could make it.
White light.
He's standing there, looks to his side, and there's Elijah, and then looks in front of him, and there is Jesus Christ.
And I believe Moses was taken to the future, and he was also shown the past, and suddenly he came back, and that is how Moses had all the revelatory things he had from God.
I'm saying this to say God can alter time and he's outside of time.
Now let me bring you to one more scripture.
In Matthew chapter 24 and verse 20, Jesus had just gotten done laying out the whole thing that was going to happen with the destruction of Jerusalem.
He said, when these things happen, get out of the rooftop, run for your life, get out of Dodge, don't go back inside.
This happened in 70 AD, right?
We know the destruction happened.
Titus came and circled the city.
They pounded it.
They raised it to the ground.
Jesus' prophecies had come to pass.
But very few Christians were a part of that, if any, because they knew the prophetic word of the Lord for the future.
Now here's my point.
Jesus comes to verse 20 and he says, you know what I've prophesied to you.
Now pray that these things do not happen in the wintertime or on a Sabbath.
Think about that statement.
Pray.
Here's what's going to happen, but pray.
Pray it doesn't happen in the wintertime or on a Sabbath.
I got to run over the board.
When we look at this, so when we're saying pray that these things don't happen, I believe when we pray, we're going to alter this narrative.
When we pray, we can alter what's going to happen in a season or on a day.
And that doesn't mean that we can alter scripture or alter prophecy, but the Lord is looking for the cooperation of his ecclesia to drive darkness back.
And if we will unite, not fight, and begin to pray and push these things back, I believe we can alter the outcome of what the Antichrist spirit is lying to the church about saying, oh, God's sovereign.
He's in control.
You might as well just phone it in.
After all, we're just waiting for the rapture.
Well, the Bible says we ought to occupy until he comes.
And that means we need to be very proactive in what God is saying today.
And that comes through our spiritual lives.
So the people I'm talking to the most are the praying grandmothers.
You need to start praying that these wicked events do not come on the earth and that ministries like this begin to rise up and begin to train the next generation for an absolute breakthrough so we don't see wickedness pervade in the land.
So what I'm saying to you is this.
We can alter the time we live in.
We can alter the time we live in.
Come on.
We alter it by our faith.
It brings the world to its knees.
We just saw a glimpse of it in the November election, and now it's time for us to not anymore shrink back.
We need to lean in right now.
And here's what that looks like, just very quickly.
You need to hear this right now.
When Elisha the prophet was old, he was 90 years old on his bed, many commentators say.
And as he's on his bed, King Joash comes to meet with him and says, how do I defeat my enemies?
How do I do this?
And he leads by saying, my father, my father, and the horsemen thereof.
He led with nostalgia.
That's number one.
There's a lot of nostalgia in the church right now saying, the former days were better.
I want it to be like that.
My father, my father, and the horseman thereof.
So he comes in.
Elijah, the old man, gets off of his bed and says to him, take your bow and arrow and aim it out the eastern window and fire an arrow.
And then the prophet comes and puts his hands on the bow and arrow with the king and says, let's do this together.
Gives him a prophetic word, a prophetic act.
They fire the arrow out the window.
But then something peculiar happens in 2 Kings 13.
Elisha steps back and says, take arrows in your hand and strike the ground.
And when the king goes to strike the ground, he strikes the ground three times and then gets up.
And Elisha the prophet becomes angry with the king and said, you should have done it five or six times because then you would have vanquished your enemies completely.
Now you will only have three victories.
Here's the word of the Lord.
The word of the Lord is this.
It's time to get past our nostalgia, my father, my father, and the horsemen thereof.
It's time to get past just simply the prophetic word.
Now I know what to do because the prophet's helping me.
It's time for us individually to take responsibility and start striking the ground with fervency so we can storm Babylon and see victory continue until we drive our enemies completely back.
And I believe that is how we're going to alter time by our faith, by our holiness, by being in prayer, by doing what we can in society.
And I believe God will meet us in that.
Come on.
Don't move.
Pray for those watching right now.
Okay.
I think the word you just deliver powerful.
Listen, I cannot tell you how many people in the church are still stuck in what happened in the 80s.
The nostalgic moment with, oh, I was going to say the names.
We have to get over that.
This is the reason why you're not allowing the new lions to step in.
Now, whether you stand with us or not, it doesn't matter.
We're going forward.
But that spirit that you're talking about right now, it's all over the church.
It is.
People love, I mean, there's websites.
I love the 80s.
I love the 90s.
I love the 50s.
Radio stations dedicated to the 50s music.
Listen, nostalgic is so dangerous.
Yes.
Pray.
I hear this word right now.
My servant Moses is dead.
And I am calling you higher.
For the Spirit of the Lord says unto you, I have marked you for a generation and I've anointed you to take territory.
Do not fear their faces.
Do not be afraid.
I've given you the face of the lion and a forehead like flint.
By your righteousness and your holiness, by you who would watch and eagerly desire his appearing, you will hasten the return of the Lord.
And the Lord is saying unto you, I am after your children.
I am after your sons and daughters.
I am after this dying generation, but I need your cooperation so we can fulfill the goodness of the Lord in the land of the living.
Though your father and mother forsake you, the Lord will take you up and he'll never leave you.
He will never forsake you.
For I am the God who sees all and I am the God who sees these leaders of nations.
I who sit in heaven laugh at them.
And I'm bringing a new move, says the Lord.
I'm going to bring it through media.
I'm going to seize networks.
I'm going to bring it through social media.
I'm going to begin to do online crusades and I will bring my word, says the Lord, and miracles will break out even digitally.
For I'm going to invade borders.
They say they will hold me back.
I will not be contained.
Through my ecclesia, I will bring truth into a dying culture.
And yes, the wealth transfer will come, but the wealth transfer will not be as some have said it would be.
It will be unconventional.
It will be for those that have eyes to see, ears to hear, and are positioned by obedience.
For I am bringing a now word, says the Lord.
I bring it to your children, and I will break the bonds of those that would try to collapse the society.
I'm raising up new voices, and a united front is coming.
For surely the Antichrist spirit will not have the final word in the ecclesia.
For I have called you, I have marked you, and this is the hour of your visitation.
Hear my words, says the Lord.
Know your hour.
Know your day.
For I'm raising up young lions and one more round has been granted unto you.
They will not succeed in evil.
For I have raised you up for this time.
And many will see, and many will fear, and many will put their trust in the name of the Lord their God.
In this hour and at this time, I'm providing for you.
I'm reaching your children.
And that depression is leaving you.
Confusion will be scraped away from my body.
And once again, you will have an apocalypsis, a clear-eyed, clear-minded understanding when you look through the veil of revelation and truth will come to you.
For I've called you.
I will strike down some leaders and I will raise up new ones in their place.
For the change agents are coming and I will shake the very institutions.
But I tell you, there's another media revival coming.
There's another form of network coming.
There's another form of my voice going through all the earth.
They cannot stop it.
For watch the satellites, says the Lord.
I will bring them into order and I'm going to find alternative means to get the gospel around the world and it will cost people nothing.
For I am the Lord your God and I do not fail.
Hallelujah to the Lamb of God.
Thank you, Jesus.
It is well.
And no more will ministries squeeze the people of God wrongly.
Come on.
For I will bring about holiness and truth and then you'll see a clear, pure stream of wealth transfer.
Because the people of God will offer themselves willingly and ministries will offer themselves willingly.
And I will finance it all, says the Spirit of God.
Amen.
Thank you, Lord.
Thank you, Jesus.
Amen.
Hallelujah.
Amen.
You know, we're talking about the spirit of Elijah right now.
And how can parents embody the spirit of Elijah?
We were just talking about going after their children, their children's children.
How can a parent embody the spirit of Elijah to make sure they pass the mantle to the next generation?
Well, it's what you gentlemen are doing right now.
And I'm looking at you, Ricky, and the Spirit of God is on your life.
And you're wearing shoulders that the Lord's putting another mantle on.
He's going to begin to strengthen that torch in the right hand and the left hand.
I see the anointing coming upon you to wield the sword in the right hand and the left hand.
And the Lord is saying there was other evangelists.
There was other people.
There was those that I would have brought to this table.
But the Spirit of the Lord says you simply showed up.
And because of that, when you answer the call, you become chosen.
And so because chosen is written across your chest right now, God's going to raise you up and there's going to be a retrofit and a new wineskin come through this platform.
And the Lord says, I will use your life to do it.
I've called you and it's mighty, says the Lord God Almighty.
And I put armor upon you to sustain it and continue going forward.
And the resources will come.
The favor will come.
The networks will come and truth will come.
But make no mistake, it will be a shaking and a retrofit will come.
And it will be mighty, says the Lord.
But don't fear in the transition because there's another day coming.
The transition is my doing, says the Lord.
And it'll bring you to the other side and might will be upon you.
And Mondo, the Spirit of God Almighty has put upon you a warrior spirit, a collective warrior spirit.
I see three major changes coming in your life and God will begin to open up his good treasure to you.
He's going to open up a voice that cannot be stopped, cannot be held back.
And the Lord says, I am establishing a platform made of stone.
I'm building a platform made of stone that cannot be shaken by the natural elements, by the will of man, or by people's design for what a model looks like.
For I have broken you out and God is bringing you forward.
And I see his voice roaring through you, for I've given you the face of the lion.
I've given you the backbone of steel.
I've given you these things.
And I will roar through you, says the Lord, to call young lions to allegiance, to call them into order, and there will be great prosperity that comes upon your life.
And you'll become a distribution center of my resources, says the Lord, because you've been tested, you've been challenged, and you've not been found lacking.
And I'm going to multiply your voice and your anointing to a global scale.
I've called you.
Hallelujah, Jesus.
That's true.
Father, I lift up everybody watching right now.
And if you're a partner in this ministry and you're a partner in what God's called you to do, there is a turn of the tide coming.
And the Lord is saying to you who have been here a long time, who've listened, and maybe you're brand new, but God is making a way for you and your family.
He's making a way for you even in media.
God is after your children.
He's after your sons and daughters.
And I want to say to you in Jesus' name, that religious old thing that's tried to hold you back, I see it falling off your eyes.
Blessing And Invitation 00:03:45
I see it falling off your life.
The new day has come.
And thank God for the fathers who built these platforms.
We stand with them and we celebrate that and we move forward in honor and to the future.
I honor Jim Baker.
Amen.
I honor Jim Baker and the legacy and the continuation of his ministry.
I thank you, Lord, for Lori.
I thank you, God, for the wonderful people on this network.
And I bless this network.
And we, Jesus, in great honor, receive the future that you have for this place.
Amen.
Wow.
Come on, Rick.
Thank you for that.
You're welcome, sir.
Amen.
You're welcome.
The Lord is faithful to speak when we are listening.
Yes.
You know, we've been receiving letters and emails.
And as we get them, I feel like the common theme without people knowing from East Coast to West Coast, from Maine all the way down to Texas, the theme has been, I've been praying that the spiritual calluses leave my eyes.
That's powerful.
And that the spiritual cotton swab get removed from my ear.
So if there are partners watching right now, they're taking their time to write in letters saying, so pray for me right now that the spirit of religiousness that has been scales on my eyes falls off.
Let's pray for them right now.
Okay.
Lord Jesus, I come into agreement that any scales of religion would just fall off.
It's a new day.
Come on.
It doesn't mean we remove the old.
It just means we receive the new.
It's a retrofit.
You take the good of the old, what has been developed, and we honor it.
Lord, we thank you and we honor what has been before us, what we're walking on.
We're standing on the shoulders of giants and leaders who paid such a high price.
They gave their whole life.
And now we honor the future.
And Jesus, we just invite you into this right now.
We invite you into the future.
We invite you to the future legacy of not only this network, but Christian media.
I thank you, Jesus, that your hand is upon it.
And I literally bless, I speak blessing over you who are watching.
Whether you're a partner or a viewer or a prayer partner, I begin to speak the peace of God that passes all understanding.
The Lord is saying, oh, you're going to like what I do next.
You're going to like what I do next.
You're going to like this next part.
It's about to change.
It's about to change, but the winds of change are going to hit those sails.
And no more will it be the mechanism of man.
It's going to be the wind of the spirit taking networks like this anointed place to its divine destination.
God is calling you and I bless you in Jesus' name.
Fear not.
Continue and watch what the Lord does.
The goodness of the Lord in the land of the living.
Come on.
Amen.
Amen.
That's a word for you.
Accept that word today as you're sitting in your living room.
You're sitting in your vehicle.
You're sitting in your workplace.
Don't be afraid to lift up your hands and say, Lord, I accept the word of the Lord that has been brought forth to me.
Pastor, I want to say thank you for being on the broader days.
Honor, Rick.
What a blessing it is.
My honor.
Turn your heart back to him.
Give your life back to the Lord today.
You may have had a prodigal season in your life, but that is not your permanent season.
Your test is now becoming your testimony.
You'll be able to share this with people.
It is by the blood of the Lamb and the word of our testimony.
And we love our lives, not even unto death.
Pastor, again, I want to say thank you for being on the broadcast.
What an honor.
The spirit of Elijah, this book, I want you guys to go and receive this book.
You can go on our website or order it online at jimbakershow.com.
Scan that QR code or call our number on the screen.
The spirit of Elijah.
Expose the truth.
Embrace God's power and break the Antichrist spirit.
This book is going to bless you and your household.
Like Mondo said, get a Baker's Dozen and do your Wednesday night Bible study chapter by chapter out of this book by Pastor Man of God.
I just made him a bishop here on this show.
She has to forgive me.
Pastor Justice, you want to say thank you.
God bless you.
Thank you.
Remember, folks, God loves you.
He really does.
Don't ever let anybody convince you otherwise.
Amen.
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