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April 15, 2025 - Jim Bakker Show
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The Jim Bakker Show with Daniel Brigman Part 2
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Founding Fathers' Legacy 00:14:38
Hello and welcome to the Jim Baker Family Show coming to you from the village of Morningside, USA, nestled in the beautiful Ozark Mountains.
Today our special guest is author, founder, and co-owner of New Man of Foods, Daniel Brittman.
Our co-host today is Reverend Mondo De La Veca.
And now, live from Gray Street at Morningside, USA, here's your host, Pastor Ricky Baker.
Hello, friends.
Thank you for watching the PTL Television Network.
This is the Jim Baker Family Show.
And I want to say thank you for tuning in to this broadcast.
This is day two with Daniel Brighman.
Daniel, I want to say thank you for being on the broadcast with us today.
God bless you, brother.
You can't see me.
I was going to say, Mondo's hiding over there somewhere behind the water.
There he is.
You're small compared to Daniel.
How tall are you?
Let's just ask right away.
Come on.
I'm 6'6.
6'6.
My goodness.
Not all of us were blessed, handsome and tall.
I think I can get a handy.
Somebody once told me I can get a handicap sticker for being a giant.
Really?
For being so tall?
I don't know if that's true, but somebody told me.
Trust me, our partners, they'll fact-check that.
Somebody's going to come out here and tell you.
Let me know.
This guy is a Nephilim.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's how you know.
Oh, my God.
That's how you know we're living in the last days.
Yeah, 10 fingers, 10 toes.
How do you know we're living in the last days?
He's got 11 toes and 5 fingers.
Oh, my goodness.
Hey, speaking of living in the last days, we have a video from Pastor Jim Baker, your friend.
He's talking about living in the last days, friends.
I want you to watch this.
We're going to come back.
I'm laughing about it, but he's being serious in the video.
So we'll be serious for a second.
Watch this video because I really do believe we're living in the last days.
We're in the final days.
We really are.
They have begun.
The days of sorrow have begun.
This is it.
They're there.
It's happening.
My Lord.
How could we have a president even like this?
The warfare between good and evil, what we're seeing, what's happening in the Vatican, what's happening all over.
These things are happening, and you know it.
If you have any brain left, you know we're in the last days.
Amen.
And it's going to happen quickly.
It is quickly.
It's going to be a quick work.
It's going to happen, and people will be overwhelmed with what's happening.
I believe the fires in California are part of the judgment of God on the state of California.
And I'm sorry because my best friends live there.
And I mean that.
That's not a joke.
But I'm telling you, the fires are the worst in history.
And they keep being the worst of history.
Million dollars homes near Hollywood.
They're burned to the ground in seconds.
America's not repenting.
America's not.
I'm sorry.
I wish I could say, oh, everybody's getting saved.
Hallelujah.
They're not.
It's the opposite.
They mock God more.
The good things, they're destroying good people.
There is a war between good and evil.
And I know people have mocked what I do because I felt God spoke to me through the revelation in the prison days to warn people to be ready because you do not want to take the mark of the beast.
You do not want to take the mark from the Antichrist.
You do not want to do that because that dooms you eternally to hell according to the scriptures.
And I presume you all agree with that.
Yes.
But the Bible said.
You're worshiping the beast, right?
That's it.
Door closes.
Wow.
And so God wants the church to be ready to win souls, to help people in the last days.
You know, Dane, I want to ask you a few questions.
The first one being: is do you believe that we're living in the final days, last couple seasons of, you know, maybe the book of Revelation?
Well, if you follow scripture, it's hard not to help come to that conclusion, right?
And you're seeing this play out.
If this was a book, it seems like we're getting to the end, the end of it, doesn't it?
That's right.
We're about to hit the climax.
You know, Revelation 13, verse 17, talks about a mark which everyone will be able to, or everyone will be forced to have.
It'll be, you know, whether you're rich or poor, whether you're great or small, it says that you won't be able to buy or sell without this mark.
We call it the mark of the beast because the scriptures call it the mark of the beast.
And we're saying that the beast system is truly being set up to be implemented in the United States right now.
But what are your thoughts on that?
The mark of the beast.
Well, it's concerning.
I mean, I grew up in the South.
And if you grew up in the South and you were any religious at all, which most people were, at least back then, you heard something about this.
And this was seared into your brain.
Hey, don't ever do this.
Don't ever do this because it was important.
Yes.
We're seeing infrastructure being built.
And the last episode I was on, I mentioned Revelation 18:4 about come out of her, my people.
We're called to be different.
We're called to come out.
Isaiah 26:20 talks about to hide what's precious, what's valuable, the important parts of us, what God has given us.
We need to buoy it up and be prepared that we don't get sucked into these systems, that we aren't dependent and be pulled in unawares to these systems.
We can't be involved with the mark of the beast.
It's obvious that this kind of system is being built, and I don't want any part of it.
Mondo, do you think we're living in the last days, Mondo?
I've never heard your opinion on this before.
What do you think, brother?
Absolutely.
Yeah.
There's no denying.
I mean, you can go about it all which way you want, but at the end of the day, we are getting closer.
Let me say that.
We are getting closer each and every single day to seeing Bible prophecy being fulfilled right now.
What scares me the most is not the events that are going to take place, it's the hearts of people failing out of fear because their trust has not been placed in the word.
And for me, when I see people not believing that some of these events are happening because of Bible prophecy, what are you going to tell the people that have lost it all?
One of the most profound reasons or for me personally of being involved with this ministry is just what you just said: that we're not supposed to put our trust in man.
And we're out there, you know, I'm super excited Trump got elected, but our trust isn't in Trump.
Yes.
Trump helps us to be able to exercise our independence under God, but our trust is in God.
And if we're in a situation where we're dependent upon man, we trust in man, then this B system, this fleshly system, is going to pull us in.
And I don't want it.
And everybody should be alert, I think, should be alert to that.
You know, you wrote a book called Forever 1776.
So why is it, and you have it right there?
We can show it on the screen as well.
Why is it important as believers?
And why is 1776 important as a Christian?
Look at that cover.
Isn't that pretty?
That's George Washington.
This is actually painted by a German, Lusk.
He painted two paintings.
One of them went to, it was in Germany, was destroyed during the war.
There's only one left in New York.
Anyway, side note, a little side note.
But Washington crossed in Delaware.
Let me take a couple of quotes from our founding fathers.
And I think for our country to continue, this idea must be sustained.
And what happened in 1776 must be sustained?
And I'll read for you a couple quotes.
This is not me speaking.
Yes.
This is 250 years ago.
Let me, let's see what the founding fathers, a couple things the founding fathers said.
This is Patrick Henry.
Give me liberty or give me death, guy, Patrick Henry.
It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded not by religionists, but by Christians, not on religions, but on the gospel of Jesus Christ.
Patrick Henry, John Quincy Adams, John Adams' son, one of the absolute architects of America.
The highest glory, please, whatever you're doing, put it down and listen to this.
The highest glory of the American Revolution was this, that it connected in one indissoluble bond the principles of civil government with the principles of Christianity.
Wow.
So when we think about 1776 and we're a Christian and the Bible is important to us and God is important to us, then therefore the Declaration of Independence must be, our government must be important to us because it's connected to, like I've said this on the broadcast before.
If we were talking, you mentioned God, how many times in this broadcast already?
You've mentioned God many times.
I can't even count.
If we were in China, what would happen?
I would be arrested, beaten, killed.
I mean, that's just the reality of it.
Somebody would come through that door right now, right?
CCP, yeah.
They come right now.
You'd be gone, mustache and all.
Come on.
You'd be gone.
You'd be gone.
Why doesn't that happen here?
Well, because of what you were just reading.
Because our founding fathers.
Sure, because these men, these are the Holy Spirit-inspired men.
They signed a document.
We hold these truths to be self-evident.
All men are created equal, endowed by the Creator with certain unalienable rights.
Among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
And one of these that we can talk about God if we want to.
And that document is the foundation of our country.
And I cannot emphasize enough how important that is to protect your belief.
Just imagine if you were in China.
I'm going to give you a parallel so you understand.
And nobody argues.
That's the Charter of America.
Thomas Jefferson signed the 56 signers of the Declaration of Independence.
That's America.
We hold these truths.
What?
That we're endowed by creator, unalienable rights.
My grandpa put it this way.
What makes America great, Danny, when I'm a little boy?
I don't know, Grandpa, what?
Because in America, our rights come from God, not man, and they can't take them away.
And he also said they taught me that in school, which was, that's another very interesting thing.
Okay, let me read to you the UN Charter on Human Rights.
I'm going to read a passage from this, and you're going to see the difference.
And people think they're similar, the Declaration of Independence and the UN Charter.
They're completely opposite.
Thomas Jefferson sums it up like this.
Can the liberties of a nation be secure when we have removed the conviction that these liberties are the gift of God?
Remember that, Thomas Jefferson.
Here's what it says in the UN Charter on Human Rights, 29th section, subsection 3.
It says, these rights, which it mentioned earlier and freedoms, may in no case be exercised contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations.
What did they just say?
In the United Nations, who is God?
Under a United Nations Declaration, the government is God.
What does it say in America?
What did our founding fathers say?
Saying that our Christian belief, our Christian ethics is the basis of our government.
That man, I cannot emphasize this enough.
Our rights, our freedom, our endowment, our gift, our dominion does not come from government.
It comes from our creator.
And the whole world has wondered after this moment.
And a thousand years from now, they will wonder after that moment of what happened in 1776.
Because there is nothing like it in the history of the world, save you could argue Moses and the Ten Commandments and the law of Moses.
People think about the Ten Commandments being a religious document.
It was a political document.
It wasn't a religious document.
It was political law.
It was the law, the law of Moses.
It was a political, it was a merging of this religious belief and political belief.
In America, what did our founding fathers do?
They merged this concept that there is something inside you that is more valuable than all the world.
And it's protected in our country.
Amen.
You know, you mentioned in your book, Forever 1776, over 16 times our founding fathers would call for a time of fasting and prayer and deliverance and forgiveness.
You know, now that we see Trump in office, I guess that a lot of people are kicking up their feet and they're kind of getting away from this mention of, you know, we need to pray, we need to fast, we need to see America delivered again.
But how important is it that we go back to what our founding fathers said 16 times?
The last time we had a major day of prayer was Ronald Reagan.
I think it was 1982.
It was a big deal.
And America was really blessed during that time.
Anyway, I have a friend who's involved in the administration to some degree, and he asked me, what would you tell Trump if you could tell Trump?
And I'll say it right here to the camera in front of everybody.
Everybody can contact the administration, whatever.
What can Trump do?
What's the most important thing he can do?
Just like our founding fathers did in 1775, 74, many days during the revolution, a day of prayer where we thank God for where we are.
We thank God for, you know, the 250th anniversary of our country is coming up.
We need a day of prayer to thank him for this because we don't live in China that we can even talk about this.
And the way they ask God for forgiveness, the things that we've done, how we've hurt people, but that we are still holding up this ideal.
And as long as we hold up this ideal, God will bless us.
As long as we hold up that concept where God is the most important thing and we give justice and liberty and all these things and these words that we talk about, that it will be so.
The biggest thing, please, Donald Trump, you've done so many amazing things.
So happy that you've been elected.
Please have a day of prayer and fasting for this country.
Government Sabotage Seeds 00:08:09
Please.
Well, to summarize back again, James and Nikki, a friend of the family, I contacted them and they told me what was going on.
They farmed, geez, I don't know, a couple thousand acres.
They farm a pretty good farm.
And they were telling me about how the government or the corporations under the power and guise of the government were trying to limit and cut off and stop their water after the seeds were in the ground.
I mean, just think about that.
It tells you all you need to know.
They let them plant the seeds.
They already had the warning and the tags out printed, already printed.
They let them plan everything.
And then they basically put a gun to their head and said, you agree to this or we're going to shut off your water.
And they wanted to agree to a situation where the rights that they've had for, if you know anything about water rights, they're passed down from generation.
I mean, it's a property.
It's a right.
And they wanted to get rid of them.
The forces and the things, if you trace the money, you trace the Idaho power, first and second or first and third owners of Idaho Power is BlackRock and Vanguard.
If you've ever heard those words and you can kind of guess what the agenda was, and they were pushing.
Now they're to the point there was enough uproar.
And they wanted me to tell, I'm glad you brought, they wanted me to tell you thank you for bringing the attention to this because the attention helped, you know, cockroaches hard for them to act in the light.
And it brought some attention to that.
And there has been a pause where it's pushed the can down the road and they've been able to negotiate a situation.
They're now, they have a settled agreement.
It's not what they wanted.
There was an agreement that was actually good for everybody.
And Idol Power, who's not even a farmer, the governor of Idaho says we're going to let the farmers work it out.
He didn't.
So they're in a catch-22 situation where they've kicked the can down the road maybe a couple years, maybe four years.
That's where they're at right now.
Why farmers?
That's my question.
There are the ones with the water.
Yeah, but I can think of a thousand other people who should be getting audited, who should be getting attacked, who should be getting regulated.
Literally, probably a thousand other companies who are doing the wrong thing every single day.
Yet you have farmers trying to feed, which Mondo, we've done the statistics.
We've seen them.
We have the grid down chowdown guys here.
We have roughly 2% of America feeding the other 98% of America.
So that begs my question again.
Why are they attacking farmers?
You can look all over the world.
You can look at the Netherlands, which is people don't know.
Netherlands, if it's not number one, it's like number two for agricultural production in Europe and how they've been attacked and how they've been shut down.
And you saw some of the protests and the riots and the trucks and the tractors and what have you.
The farmers mean independence.
It means independence for our country.
If a country, like Trump is saying, drill, baby, drill.
We want energy independence.
Well, what about grow, baby, grow?
That's what we should be saying.
That's a good way to put it.
Grow, baby, grow.
We need everyone to have a farm.
Right.
Everybody.
Right.
We just say, drill, baby, drill.
Okay, I'm for energy independence.
That's good for us in so many ways.
Responsibly do it.
Let's do it.
Let's grow, baby, grow.
And so if that capacity is diminished or taken back or the resources or the cost, well, now we're not as independent.
We're not as resilient.
We're not filling the blank.
I mean, I don't know what any other conclusion.
I'm not trying to be the sky is falling kind of guy, but what other conclusion can you come to but that this is intentional pressure on the very mechanisms of our feeds our whole deal?
I mean, one of the biggest, you mentioned one of the biggest, the biggest logistic situation in our country.
It's a logistical nightmare.
You know, the food chain supply is very fragile infrastructure.
I want to ask you, you know, you have new mana where you are preparing the church.
How pressing is this on you as a person who is preparing individuals, preparing churches, preparing communities that the food supply chain is so fragile?
I get to the point where I feel like I hope I'm not.
And I know, you know, here you guys are such a good way to present this.
I hope I'm not just yelling at windmills here.
I've been speaking for years now.
I can see, I predicted eggs are going to be a dollar a piece, which they have hit in certain ways.
Absolutely.
They've already hit.
And I knew, I didn't know this because God told me.
I know this because I've had years of experience and I could see what was going on here.
The numbers, yeah.
The trending and the infrastructure and what have you.
I can see, I'm telling you, the infrastructure is not what you think or not what you would expect.
Maybe that's a better way to say it.
And what you need.
And we are vulnerable.
We are susceptible.
We are in a situation unlike we've been in quite a while in this country.
With everything that's going on in the world, with everything going on within our country, it's not what we would think and what we really need.
Mondo, what do you think about this?
We're seeing our farmers attacked across the nation.
I mean, 2% of the population roughly feeding the other 98% and they're getting attacked.
They're having their waters restricted.
I mean, is this not common sense?
Would you not assume that we'd want, you know, 50% of our nation feeding 50% of our people, that we'd want to encourage everyone to get out there and have a garden?
We want to, you know, support the small homesteaders who are feeding their local community.
I mean, is that not common sense?
You come from a third world nation.
I hope you don't mind I bring that up.
You came from Guatemala, brother.
I was going to say Mexico, but you came from Guatemala, didn't you?
You came from Guatemala where the communities took care of the communities.
Absolutely.
I mean, they still do.
Yeah, exactly.
And I was going to say, is that still the culture there?
Absolutely.
It's what sustains the nation.
I think what happens is when you centralize the exchange, you monopolize and manipulate the exchange.
This is something that in America, anytime a corporation sees dollar signs through the water, they're going to want to manipulate the water and how the water is centralized and distributed amongst each other.
And this is where the greed comes from.
And I think a lot of our third world nations are destroyed because of the greed of men.
America has sent billions of dollars to Latin America.
Yet, how come Latin America is not fixed?
It's because of greed.
It's because there's no responsibility, just like you mentioned, behind the ethics and the values that people withhold.
Now you have a problem nationwide, not just in America, not just in Guatemala, Mexico, El Salvador.
Now you got a bigger problem because exports are depending on one another.
But when you have major corporations that want to centralize the exchange of vegetables and fruits, I want to tell you something.
It takes away the power of one another.
Nations cannot survive any longer than where we're going right now.
America doesn't grow food the way we used to because now we have to depend on China.
We have to depend in Ukraine.
We have to depend on other nations to provide what America used to be able to grow.
You were saying something so important that people who are listening, they assume.
They assume America feeds itself.
America does not feed itself.
America is a net importer of food, not a net exporter.
We don't feed ourselves anymore.
I don't know if people knew that.
Really?
No, we don't.
All you have to do is look where the bananas come from.
Guatemala, Costa Rica.
Look at where the tomatoes are coming from.
I mean, they tell you right there where does the cilantro?
Joseph's Moment of Change 00:10:02
I mean, I don't know.
A pack of blueberries.
We went to a store, which we, it's like a whole food store, you know, it's supposed to be healthier.
But even on the blueberry package, I was like, oh, Brooke, look at this.
I think it listed off five or six different countries where the blueberries could be coming from.
And I was like, I didn't even know which one.
It just said, oh, it's a product of XYZ, XYZ, XYZ.
One of these are multiples put together.
And I thought, oh, very interesting at the times we're living in.
So we don't grow or own.
How could you?
How could it, listen, all you have to do is look at the farmers in Idaho.
Why would you want to spend all your life trying to fight the machine just to try to grow potatoes?
And if you know anything about farmers, if you know my friend James, they live and breathe.
I mean, it's in their blood.
And he's getting to the point where he's having to make these decisions and ask the same things that you're just asking.
It is part of him.
I mean, if you really know a farmer, that land is part of them.
And they are being not supported by our government and being pressured in ways that.
When you have godly people in office, you get a Joseph moment because Joseph was part of the government and he saw the vision and he was appointed.
And this is the key.
We are waiting for big government to prepare for a famine.
No, God always chooses a man or a woman to see the vision, to be watchful and to take the reins and say, we are going to store for seven years.
But it takes a man or a woman of God that is chosen.
And let me ask you, where are the men and women of God in politics?
Why aren't you listening to God?
Why aren't you doing what God wants you to do?
Why are you drunken with power?
I'm talking about the men and women of God that run for office and then keep their mouth quiet while we are facing famine in the land.
Forget about the government that doesn't believe in God, but you men and women of God that are in government, why are you staying silent?
You have a Joseph moment right now to store up food for what's coming in the next few years that can save nations, it can save families.
But you know why you don't pay attention to God?
Because you don't want to be laughed at.
You don't want to be ridiculed.
Well, tell that to Joseph.
Why do you tell a Joseph moment, Ricky?
Because I want to tell you something.
That Joseph moment is coming for the church, and the church affects society in a way like we've never seen before.
But where are they?
Where are the Josephs in the political realm?
I know your father-in-law is there.
He speaks up.
That's right.
He's one of the Josephs.
You know, he was even referring.
He said, there's so many good people there, but they're good people that don't want to cause ruffles.
They're good people who want to continue to be elected so they don't fight too much.
You know, Ron, he went in there and he said, you know, even if I just get one term as my father-in-law, I'm going to do everything I can in this one term.
And he underwrote as a junior legislative person.
He underwrote a few things that got passed talking about the transgender issue with children, talking about, you know, there only is one, two genders inside of the nation's capitals, fixing bathrooms.
I mean, things that, you know, you usually don't do as a first-term person.
He said, well, if I don't get elected, at least I knew I did everything I could.
But he ended up getting elected again within his district because they realized, oh, he's causing actual change.
But Mondo, the issue is he's saying there's so many good people.
I mean, there are pastors who are in those seats, but they're just refusing to speak up because they want to continue to get elected.
Are they afraid of the ridicule?
I mean, that's canceled or having, we're being defunded.
I'm not saying that's everyone, but we see a lot of people, you know, whenever you start getting into the lobby world and people are saying, well, you know, it's hundreds of thousands of dollars, millions of dollars to not speak on.
They're not even saying don't campaign against it.
They're just saying just don't talk about it.
Can I get in trouble?
Just don't go there.
I think we do all the time on this show.
So by all means.
I'm sitting down.
Go, Mondo.
Yeah, that's right.
I'm going to give you a pen and write what I'm about to say.
I'm ready.
Let's go.
I'm tired of good people.
I want people that are going to be bold for the gospel of Jesus Christ and nothing else.
Good people don't change the world.
Radical people that believe in Jesus Christ and believe in the message of the gospel.
12 men believed in Jesus' word and were willing to crucify upside down, be thrown.
I mean, you wouldn't go down the list.
I don't want good people around me.
Well, the good people are, it's secret lukewarmness is what it is.
It's secret fence writing.
And they do under the guise of, oh, I'm a good person.
I'm just doing, you know, the bare minimum of what I can do.
But like you said, we're called to be a peculiar people.
We're called to be a truly a radical people in all the sense of we follow our legal guidelines, but we need to get out there and change laws for Christian values.
I truly believe that.
People, I can go on.
It's a hiding for lukewarmness.
What's that?
Cleodice and that's what it is.
And they were, you know, everyone has said, oh, that's a good church.
They all would have said it.
Oh, that's a good church.
If Joseph would have just said, I'm a good person, he would have never stored food.
You know why?
Because urgency doesn't create good people.
Urgency creates important people.
I'm going to write that down.
I'm going to write that down.
Not bad for a what do you call it?
Latin American kid, right?
No, listen to me.
The gospel is very clear, and we have to understand that either we believe or we don't believe.
Either we walk by faith and not by sight, or you're not going to walk at all.
The thing is, there are things coming.
Matthew 24, Jesus gave some of the most important prophecies that he could ever share about what's coming.
Yet the church doesn't believe him.
The world believes him, but the church doesn't believe that nothing bad is going to happen.
Tell that to the brothers and sisters in China that are being persecuted.
Tell that to the, what do you call the Christians?
Coptic Christians.
Telling about them getting killed.
Yeah.
Listen, if you think that America is not going to go through something, and I'm not wishing bad for America.
I want America to succeed.
I want America to thrive.
I want America and it's going to thrive.
But Jesus said there's things coming and we got to prepare.
We have an important mission in the body of Christ.
Maybe not all of us, but just a few good people.
No.
Men and women that God calls them a remnant group of people to prepare for those that are going to be hungry, those that are going to be thirsty, and those that are going to be at the perfect spot, Ricky, to know Jesus Christ as their personal Lord and Savior.
Amen.
Stop being a good person.
It doesn't change anything.
Be careful.
I'll back it up with you.
Someone's going to clip that and put it on YouTube and they're like, look, Mondo said not to be a good person.
No.
Don't be a lukewarm person.
Don't be a Laodicean who you actually don't, you know, you're riding the fence on every single issue.
I agree.
My words.
They're going to clip it, though.
They're going to say, Mondo said, don't be a good person.
Listen, my thing is this.
Be clear because the Bible talks about it very clearly.
The Bible doesn't pull any punches.
And I want to tell you something.
We are living in a moment right now.
You see, Ricky is more, I got to be like you because I got to be careful on how I say things because I'm thinking in Spanish and speaking to you in English.
But the problem is be careful when they speak good of you.
That's the word of God.
And if you're waiting just to be spoken good of you, and that's what this generation is about, because if you say the good thing, you get the follows.
If you say the great things, but yet when you're warning about a food shortage is here, what do they call you?
Yeah, well, they call you a cuckoo or prepper.
They call you a conspiracy theorist.
You heard that one probably a couple times, haven't you, Danielle?
We've heard all the things.
You know, Mondo, I agree that we need to not just be good in word, but we need to be good in action.
Because too many people can talk the talk, but they don't walk the walk.
It doesn't matter if you've campaigned on great things if you don't follow through with great things.
I think that's the point that's trying to make.
And I appreciate that you're even bold enough to just talk and go out there with it because it's so true.
This is Downs, Mondo.
This is a word you're giving today.
I wrote it down.
Radical people change the world.
That's right.
Good people.
You know, one of the, this is, I'll speak boldly.
It's okay, right?
We're okay.
One of the greatest testaments to Jim Baker, when it's all said and done, I'm going to tell you right now, I believe very firmly will be his constant, will be his consistent call for people to get prepared.
You mark my word.
When it's all said and done, when what we see in the future, people will look back on his days and they'll look back how they mocked him and they'll say, dear God, I wish we would have just listened to him.
Wow.
That's what I believe.
There are people who want war.
You can see it.
I mean, it's just dripping from them.
They want disaster.
They want chaos.
They want control.
And do you think America is any more righteous than it was 30 years ago or less righteous?
Do you think we're, I mean, I mean, come on.
War on Water 00:03:11
Urgency does not create good people.
It's time for now for us to come out of her.
We cannot be dependent on Babylon because Babylon is going to shake.
Babylon is going to fall.
Babylon is going to have indignation and the wrath of God upon it.
We have to pull out.
And mentally, emotionally, just, I can't tell you how appreciative of what you just said, Mondo.
We have to pull out of that.
That's right.
We have to not be dependent.
And that's why you created this.
If someone doesn't know about New Mana, tell us about the backstory of why you even got into this.
You and your wife created this company.
You didn't buy this company.
You started it in your basement.
Why did you create this?
What was the whole purpose behind it?
14 years ago, my wife, we had a pool table.
A lot of Christians just got upset with you.
Yeah, yeah.
No, I'm just kidding.
Pool's had pools awesome.
I love pool table.
There's Trouble in River City, if you know that movie.
Trouble in River City's pool.
Anyway, we had a pool table and we had the buckets.
We had the food.
We had the packages.
We got the buckets.
We put the stickers on.
We organized the things.
We went out.
I mean, we were small.
No idea, no concept.
I had one day sitting here with you two great gentlemen.
It's just a pleasure.
But we had an idea.
Just like America, America's an idea.
We had an idea that you could be independent, that you didn't have to depend on what was going on, that you could be prepared for whatever faces you, that you got food and water and those kind of things.
So that's what we've done.
We have a variety of options for you.
You can call the number.
What's the, I can't, I hold my glasses on.
Oh, it's 417.
Excuse me, I'm getting my personal phone number out again.
1-888-988-1588.
You can call that number.
You can go to the website, JimBakershow.com.
You can go and you can see a different variety.
You can see the different options right there.
We have water.
Water is so essential.
I'm telling you, there's a war on water.
I believe I cannot tell you anymore plainly.
Water will be so essential that you will either thank God or come back and condemn yourself that you didn't at this moment take steps to have water in your house.
That's what I believe.
Food as well.
We have organic options, easy to fix.
We have sales going on on the website.
You're going to go to the website.
You can get a case of water.
You buy this bucket, organic, a family pack, a no-gluten family pack, and a case of water, and you can buy them together and you got a discount on them.
We got water and food bundles.
Come on.
That's what you need.
We got water.
We got, if you buy a triple family, like a triple organic family pack or a triple family pack, triple no gluten, you buy three, you get to choose over there, either a fruit and veggie bucket.
You're going to pick one of them.
You can get one of them free.
We're doing everything we can.
It's not just salesmanship.
We believe this.
And our family's done this for 14 years, and this has been the ethic.
And that's why one of the, we're so happy to be involved with you guys and to get this message out and say it this way, because it is this.
Seek Independence Under God 00:10:54
This is the message.
Look, you need to be independent under God.
You don't need to be relying on Babylon because Babylon's coming down and it's coming hard.
And so you have to have the ability to be independent and not rely and not be sucked into a beast system that wants your soul.
That's right.
It's that simple.
Yeah, because honestly, it doesn't care about this physical body.
The devil knows this will all go away.
He cares about where you spend eternity.
And he wants you to be in the same situation he's in, eternal separation from God.
Because he knows that God loves you.
He sent his son to die for you.
Mondo, I mean, it's an incredible thing that we, you know, we see people live their lives separated from God and then they have the near-death experience and then they realize, oh my goodness, I don't want separation from Jesus, separation from the Holy Spirit, separation from God to be my reality for eternity.
They have a flipped moment where they realize, hey, I've seen, and we've had people here on this show where they said, I've seen hell and I don't want anyone to go there.
And what do they do?
They become the most radical people you ever met for Jesus Christ because they say, I don't want one person to lose their life.
And I think that's what it's about, right?
Because the Bible says, he that winneth souls is wise.
It's wisdom.
That's right.
And the wisdom to understand that the process of what you've gone through changes your outlook on why you need to tell one more about the message of the gospel of Jesus Christ, why you want to remind people that he died on the cross, resurrected after three days to give life and life abundantly, the Bible says.
But most people don't have conviction in their hearts anymore.
We talked about it the other day on the program that a lot of Christians don't have the urgency to win people for the Lord.
They don't see soul winning as something that is essential for a Christian to have in their lives.
Therefore, there's no urgency.
And someone said it the other day perfectly that if you don't care for people to go to hell, then keep sitting in your lazy chair and continue to live your life the way you want to live.
But the Bible also says that one day we are going to give account for every word that we either speak.
And I want to tell you something.
There's a dangerous moment that will come because God has given us an opportunity to share the good news, to warn people, to encourage people, to be faith builder.
But if there's one thing that he wants from all of us, it's we got to win one more for the kingdom of heaven.
We cannot allow, listen, God had mercy in our lives.
Someone sent, let me say that again.
God sent someone into your life to share the message of the gospel and the reason why we're sitting here today.
Why can't we pay it forward?
Somebody said that it's important to spread the gospel because the Muslim community is growing by the millions every year because they keep discipling people on how to outreach others.
And today, the number one religion in prison is Islam.
That's right.
We see that, don't you, Mondo?
I know a lot of people convert as well.
They'll convert, well, it's when they're in prison.
But today, I'm afraid that we haven't taught people how to win souls.
And it's not like we're doing attendance or anything.
But if you ask yourself, when was the last time you led someone to the Lord?
When was the last time you visited a prisoner in prison?
When was the last time you went out and did an outreach without having this big church circus that we love to pray?
I'm just talking about just you by yourself sitting down with somebody and walking them into the kingdom of heaven.
Amen.
What if that was the last time they had an opportunity to hear it from you and it never came out of you?
I mean, when you stop and think about that process, because if my sister would have never stopped long enough to pray for me and fast for me, I would have been dead.
But my sister felt a desire in her heart to pray for me and fast for me to, so I wouldn't spend eternity in hell.
That's it.
And that's really kind of what it boils down to: is you know, a lot of the times we get into this comfort Christianity, very lackadaisical.
When you understand eternity is at stake, and I say something, you've probably heard me say it many times on the broadcast, but we care about your eternal position more than your temporary comfort, more than your temporary satisfaction.
Because, friends, if we didn't care about you, we would just tell you, live whatever way you want, live whatever lifestyle you want, do whatever you want, go about your life in a flippant way.
But we care about your eternal position.
We care about if you were to die today, we would confidently say at your funeral, at your celebration of life service, this man or this woman is in heaven with Jesus Christ right now.
And we should desire that for our entire family.
We should.
We should never stop loving our family.
We should never stop going out of our way to show them the love of Jesus.
I know that you have family members who aren't saved.
We have family members who aren't saved.
We have family members who aren't living the right way.
But does that mean we stop loving them?
No.
Does that mean we stop saying, hey, you know what?
Jesus loves you.
No, we don't.
We call them back every single opportunity we have and say, come back into what Jesus Christ has for you.
You know, the Bible says the goodness of the Lord that leads a man to repentance.
That's what led me to repentance: a realization.
It was kind of like a metaphorical slap to my face where I realized God is so good to me and I am so not good to him.
And it brought me to this point of really, you know, bringing me down to my knees and realizing it is his goodness that brought me back to his heart.
It was the goodness of God that led me to repentance.
Amondo, same for you.
I know we've had this conversation many times.
It was the goodness of God to realize I should have been dead.
I should have been long gone.
I shouldn't have been in the position I'm at.
I shouldn't have two wonderful children.
I shouldn't be married for 17 years.
But it's the goodness of God that brought you to that point.
And that goodness replicates into, I don't want to lose another friend.
That's right.
A few hours ago, I got a call that a good friend of mine had suffered a heart attack.
And the first thing that came into my mind is, I wonder if he knows the Lord.
And I ran to the hospital before coming to work and I went over there and I said, so-and-so, I know you're going through this.
And he's looking at me, can't talk.
And I said, I just want you to grab my hand.
And if you can squeeze it, I just want to make sure you know the Lord.
I just want you to know, do you know Jesus Christ, bro?
Do you know that He loves you?
Are you for certain that you can go to heaven today?
And he kind of went.
And I said, Do you want to know?
Amen.
And at that moment, in a split second, I want you to know something because it happened to me.
I want it to happen to somebody else.
It's not just about getting people prepared.
It's about forget about your ego.
Oh, I sure wish they would have known the Lord.
Oh, I sure wish somebody would have brought them the good news.
No, the good news is in you.
This is my friend.
This is somebody that I know.
This is somebody that I worry about if they're going to be in the kingdom of heaven or are they going to spend eternity in hell.
And until you have that urgency inside of you that you want everybody to be saved and you want everybody to go to heaven, and your prayer is not about, Lord, give me a new house.
Lord, give me another opportunity to lead somebody to the Lord.
Lord, give me an opportunity that if I can talk to somebody and just sit there and just, I sat yesterday with a couple that is very, very famous people.
And I sat there and I said, I just want to know, you're 90-something years old.
Are you for certain you're going to go to heaven?
Do you know for sure?
And this 90-something-year-old man is very successful, very well-known, one of the greatest chiropractors in the world.
And he said, Mondo, I don't know.
But whatever you have, don't leave without sharing the gospel with me.
These are multi-millionaire people.
These are people that in the natural, they don't need my help.
I'm worthless to them.
But I want to tell you something.
Everybody's in need of hope.
Everyone's in need of a savior.
Everyone's in need to know.
I don't need you to be good to me.
I need you to be important to me.
My message to you was: it's not about don't be good.
It's about when are you going to be important?
What is it going to be more important to you to share the love and the gospel of Jesus Christ than just being a good person?
And as I sat next to this people yesterday, Ricky, we prayed the sinner's prayer.
Amen.
That's what it's all about.
And I said, Lord, it's not about building the buildings.
It's not about being on television.
It's not about being on any of this.
It's about use me, Lord.
I sat in a house where revival came in 1906 and I begged the Lord to use me.
I sat at the Bonn and Bray home where William Seymour started his revival.
And I remember as a young Christian, I sat at that piano, not even knowing where I was, but all I was asking God, I said, God, use me to win one more to the kingdom.
I didn't ask him to put me on television.
I didn't ask him, take me to the world and make me an evangelist, make me a pastor.
I just said, Lord, use me to win one more so they don't spend time in hell.
And I was begging God to give me a chance every opportunity that any time I've had to share the gospel, that we can do that because people are going to hell and no one cares.
I don't care about having a big church.
I don't care about being known.
I don't care about being on television.
It's a privilege and an honor.
But at the end of the day, my responsibility was sitting next to those people yesterday and asking them, Do you know Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and Savior?
And I can tell you that if he dies today, I'm going to see him in heaven.
Conviction of Forgiveness 00:12:31
Amen.
That's the faith.
Amen.
The most important thing, too.
I've taken quite a bit of notes here today, Mondo.
Come on.
I mean, come on.
I mean, I've gotten something out of this.
I don't know.
I mean, I certainly have.
I'm sure everybody listening, you've mentioned one word I think that sums up everything you said.
It's conviction.
What is our conviction?
Talk about that.
That's good.
And, you know, I always used to, I was very, I don't know if confused is a word, but kind of put off.
You know, in the Old Testament, the Israelites, they're sacrificing animals all the time.
And if you've ever been, you know, in Israel, I haven't been there, but I've heard about it, seen.
I mean, it is a bloodbath.
I mean, it is kind of off-pudding, right?
And it never clicked in me until recently.
I was talking to my friend Billy this morning.
We were talking about this.
What is the message in the whole Old Testament about these thousands and thousands of goats and sheep and lambs and bulls being sacrificed?
What is the message?
You must kill flesh.
We must kill all these thoughts that keep us from our conviction.
Which is stronger, our conviction or our flesh?
And we must die daily and we must kill these fleshly thoughts to Go out here and build the kingdom and build the world that we want to, and that the Spirit can rule over us, and that we remake ourselves, and the Spirit comes in, and now we're being ruled by God, not ruled by the flesh.
Amen.
That's good.
We have to kill you.
Kill everything that doesn't allow our conviction to shine.
You know, Mondo, one of the most dangerous places you can be is having your heart hardened to the point where the Holy Spirit can no longer convict you.
You know, you see people and you see people in the world and you think, how on, you know, how in the world are they doing that?
Like, if we were to do that, we'd be convicted.
Well, it's because we have the Holy Spirit.
And the Bible does say it's only a matter of time before the Lord allow your heart to be hardened.
And friends, if you have a hard heart through unforgiveness, if you have a hard heart because of bitterness, because of something that happened to you, I urge you, start praying that prayer.
Holy Spirit, soften my heart once again.
That doesn't mean what happened to you when you were a child or what happened to you when you were adult or what happened to you in your marriage or what happened to you with your business partner.
It doesn't mean what happened to you was good or right or honest.
That means that you have the ability to move forward free.
You have the ability to move forward with a soft heart.
I'm telling you right now, there's nothing more special than having a soft heart so that the Lord can mold it in any way he wants, so that the Lord can use you in any capacity that he sees fit.
Friend, I want you to today call that person, call that family member, call that old business partner and tell them, brother, I've been praying for you.
I've been thinking about this.
Sister, I've been praying for you.
I've been thinking about this and I forgive you.
See, friends, forgiveness means that you are giving back to God what he already paid for.
He paid the price on the cross.
He paid the price to take our burden, to take our pain, to take our hurts away.
And friends, he already paid a price that we could never pay.
Give it back to him today.
Give it back to the Holy Spirit.
Give it back to Jesus.
Friends, I promise you, it doesn't mean what they did is right.
It simply means you're free.
It means you can walk in true forgiveness of what has already happened.
Jesus, his blood, his precious blood, we'll never stop talking about it because we love it.
We'll never stop talking about it because it's good.
We'll never stop talking about it because it's righteous.
We'll never stop talking about it because it's holy.
His blood covers all sin.
Friends, I want you right now, if you can do this today, call that person who you have unforgiveness towards.
Call that person you have bitterness towards.
Call that person and let them know, I love you, the Lord loves you, and I forgive you.
And Mondo, when it comes to an unbeliever, if you tell an unbeliever, hey, you may have hurt me, but I forgive you, it'll soften their hearts.
I'm going to say it again.
It's the goodness of the Lord that leads a man to repentance.
Absolutely.
And sometimes the goodness comes by that call.
Mondo, I know you had the interaction just the other day.
We were talking about it where there's a circumstance in your life, someone really hurts you, and you called them and you said, Hey, I'm doing this for me, to be honest with you.
And I love you and I forgive you.
And this is a tough situation.
This is something that we've talked about.
You know, in my brain, I thought, man, for me, it would take me years to get over that.
Mondo said, you know what, I'm not going to let this go on one more day.
I'm going to pick up this phone call.
I'm going to kill all my pride, all my ego, because you're in the right in this situation.
And I'm going to say, you know what?
I forgive you for hurting me.
One of the, somebody pointed this out to me once again.
This is one of the hardest things to swallow.
You know, I went through recently a situation with my wife's family that's just, you know, and it wasn't, again, it's wasn't, but, you know, it creates a lot of bad feelings.
Jesus was on the cross.
You mentioned about him being on the cross.
And one of the last things he said was, Father, forgive them for they know not what they do.
Who is he talking to?
You know, you think about that.
And we think of the, oh, he's talking to the, you know, the soldiers killing him.
Yeah.
What if he was talking to everybody?
You know, forgive them all because they don't know what they're doing.
We don't know where this flesh.
It's enmity to God.
We don't know what we're doing.
We go around like hurting people, you know, abusing people, doing all manner of things.
We don't know what we do.
We don't know who we are.
Father, forgive them all.
And he lets it all go.
Forgive them all.
That's hard.
It's a hard pill to swallow.
I got a lot of notes.
I got a lot to do here.
I should have stayed home.
A lot I have to do now.
We've talked about that a few times.
You know, the Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do.
And, you know, our physical brain, our little three-pound brain goes, what are you talking about?
Of course they knew what they were doing.
They knew directly where to drive the nails into your hands.
They knew directly where to whip you on the back.
They knew what they were doing when they made a crown that they were going to shove on your head.
The Pharisees and Sadducees knew what they were doing when they turned you over and accused you of false things.
What do you mean?
They don't know what they're doing.
But in that moment, that's not him talking out of just flippancy.
He's talking out of love and mercy right there.
And that's what it is.
Forgive them, for they don't know what they're doing.
The first martyr we ever see, Stephen, what does he say?
Roughly the same thing.
Lord, forgive them.
Lord, forgive them.
Imagine if Christians in the United States of America and globally took on that mindset when we were being persecuted.
Father, forgive them, for they don't know what they're doing.
Father, forgive them.
I mean, imagine being stoned to death, being beaten to death, being flogged, hung upside down, hung on an X-shaped cross.
And your brain is going to, even if I can win one more person through the goodness of God, that's the goodness.
That's love, mercy, grace.
That's hope speaking.
That those Roman centurion soldiers would look up and hear him after being beaten, flogged, hung, mocked, ridiculed, seeing his clothes ripped and torn and gambled upon to say, Lord, give him one more chance.
What do you think went through Stephen's mind at that moment?
What was he thinking?
Was he thinking obviously his mind wasn't in the world?
He was in a different world.
Well, you know, it says Christ endured the cross because of the joy set before him.
And I always say, we're the joy that was set before him.
The salvation of the world was set before him.
So he's willing to endure it.
I think in that moment, Stephen saw the joy set before him and it was Jesus.
I really do believe he probably saw Jesus face to face and said, it doesn't matter what rock they throw at me.
It doesn't matter how hard they hit me.
I have a joy set before me.
He saw the finish line.
It's like you're a marathon runner.
You know, you've run your 26 and whatever miles.
You know, if you're 10 feet away from the finish line, are you going to stop even if you've just broken your foot?
No.
Brother, I'm crawling past that finish line.
I'm hobbling past that finish line.
Stephen saw the finish line.
I know he did.
And he said, I'm going to do it for the joy set before me.
And that's why he's able to say, out of love, out of mercy, out of grace, give it another shot.
Forgive them because they don't understand what they're doing.
Forgive them.
Have mercy on them.
And friends, that's the position we need to take as believers as well.
People are going to hurt you in this lifetime.
It's the reality of it.
People are going to betray you in this lifetime.
That's the reality of this life.
And it's not always going to be perfect and rainbow and sunshines.
You know, I had a friend one time who's a funny guy.
He's a pastor now, but he says, you know, when I give my life to the Lord, I didn't read the fine print.
My life got worse, brother.
I lost my job.
I lost my job.
I lost this.
You know, he had a successful company.
The Lord told him to give it up.
He's like, I didn't realize I'd have to sacrifice so much.
He goes, but I'm joyful.
I was depressed and anxious.
He had constant thoughts of suicidal tendencies going through his mind.
He goes, but my mind's at peace now.
I don't have much anymore, but I'm at peace.
And I said, so you have everything because you have the Holy Spirit living inside you.
He goes, yeah, I guess I just, he's a pastor now of a church and he talks about it quite a bit.
But friends, have the peace.
It gains you nothing if you've gained the entire world, but lose your soul.
Make sure you have the peace of Christ Jesus.
And peace can only come from one place.
It's Jesus and Jesus alone.
You're not going to find it in the Muslim religion.
You're not going to find it in Hinduism.
You're not going to find it anywhere else other than Christ and Christ alone.
When you allow the Holy Spirit to indwell within you, friends, I promise you, you'll find peace that what?
Surpasses your understanding.
And friends, we go through trials and tribulations, and I need some peace that surpasses my own understanding.
And I can get it when I call out to the Holy Spirit.
And I have never had a moment in my life where I've called out to God and he hasn't answered.
Hasn't always been the answer I wanted, but he has always answered.
He's always been faithful.
He's always been righteous.
And friends, we want you to have that same relationship with Jesus Christ.
Call our number.
It's 1-888-988-1588.
We want to walk you through that salvation prayer.
If you're a prodigal son or daughter, you're saying, I just want to come back to my full calling of what God has for you.
We want to talk you through that.
We want to help you find a good, Bible-believing church because we believe physical preparation is absolutely important.
It's why we brought Daniel all the way here from Idaho because we believe in physical preparation.
But we know physical preparation means nothing if you're not spiritually ready to meet the Lord at any moment.
And friends, we're not promised tomorrow.
We're not promised to drive home, but we are promised eternity with Him whenever you say, Yes, Lord, I want you to be the Lord and Savior of my life.
We want you to have that confidence in Him that you can finish the race well in this life that we're living.
Daniel, I want to say thank you for just having this dialogue with us today.
Thank God bless you.
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Bye-bye for today.
God bless you.
Thank you again, Daniel.
Thank you, brother.
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