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March 20, 2025 - Jim Bakker Show
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The Jim Bakker Show with Mondo Gonzales
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Revelation at the Cross 00:15:29
Hello and welcome to the Jim Baker Family Show coming to you from the village of Horningside, USA, nestled in the beautiful Ozark Mountain.
Today, our special guest is Bible Prophecy Teacher and co-host of Prophecy Watchers TV program, podcast, and radio show, Mondo Gonzalez.
Our co-host today is Reverend Mondo de la Vega.
And now, live from Grey Street at Morningside, USA, here's your host, Pastor Ricky Baker.
It's a good day to be alive.
Mondo, we have two Mondos on the broadcast.
Never met another Mondo.
This is going to be a Chinese, friends.
We have Mondo Gonzalez.
He has studied and taught the Bible prophecy as a pastor for more than 25 years.
He co-hosts Prophecy Watchers television program, podcast, radio.
I mean, there's a list of things that he does.
And Pastor Gonzalez's new book is called The Mystery of the Red Heifer, Israel, the End Times, and the Building of the Third Temple.
Right there, three instantaneous hot topics, Mondo.
Israel, hot topic.
The end times.
It seems like that is growing upon us more and more in the building of the third temple.
People are saying it's going to happen within our lifetime.
Friends, you're not going to want to tune out of this broadcast.
We have Pastor Mondo Gonzalez who's going to be joining us in a few minutes.
Mondo, it's a good day.
God's faithful.
He's still on the throne.
I'm going to read some scripture.
Friends, if you're at home, open up your Bible to the book of Colossians.
It's the New Testament.
I realize, you know, I went and preached for a group of young men, young women.
I appreciate how fire they were for the Lord.
And I said, hey, we're going to be reading out of the book of Ephesians.
And I saw them immediately go to the beginning of the Bible and start slowly thumbing through it.
I said, friends, it's in the New Testament, second half of the Bible.
So I had just my quick little joke.
Hey, every now and then I go up to the front too.
Hey, come on.
I'll tell you.
I'll go to my index.
Come on.
Praise God.
Right here.
If you open up your Bible, Colossians chapter 1, verse 15, it says right here, he is the image of the invisible God.
We're talking about Christ here, the firstborn over all creation.
For everything was created by him in heaven and in earth, the visible and the invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities, all things have been created through him and for him.
He is before all things, and by him, all things hold together.
He is also the head of the body of the church.
He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, so that he may come to have first place in everything.
For God was pleased to have him to have all his fullness and dwell in him, and through him to reconcile everything to himself, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood shed on the cross.
You know, we see the centrality of Christ here, but through his blood shed on the cross, that is how peace is made.
You know, there's a lot of times, Mondo, people say, well, I'm just looking for peace.
You know, I'm going to this party.
I'm going to do these drugs.
I'm going to drink this or whatever to find peace in my life.
But we see through the word of God that peace only comes through one place, and that's the finished work of the cross, the blood of Jesus Christ.
You can't skip that part.
Amen.
And theology today is teaching, not teaching the cross.
That's right, or the blood.
Listen, I don't understand what the problem is about the blood or going and talking about the crucifixion.
Yes.
I don't understand it.
I don't understand why the church is ignoring a major factor that the Bible talks about here, that by making peace through.
Amen.
That's the key, right?
Through his blood.
Amen.
Shed on the cross.
Without it, we have no peace.
That's right.
And right here it says in verse 21, once you were alienated and hostile in your minds, expressed in your evil actions.
But now, come on, Mondo.
But now he has reconciled you by his physical body through his death to present you.
Mondo, that's me, that's you, viewer, that's you at home, to present you holy, faultless, and blameless before him.
I mean, imagine, Mondo, everything we've done in our lives.
I know my personal account of my journey to salvation wasn't always a beautiful one.
I had many times I fell down.
But Mondo, I know that through my relationship with Christ that I have now, I can be called holy, faultless, and blameless.
Now, Mondo, does that mean I'm holy, faultless, and blameless?
You live with me.
Absolutely not.
Absolutely.
Absolutely not.
Capital None.
Come on.
But, brother, through the blood of Jesus Christ, what a holy gift.
What a precious gift.
What a good gift that we're given through Jesus Christ that we can be called those things, not because of anything we've done.
We haven't done enough.
We could work our whole lives and never be good enough to be called any of those things.
It's because his blood is so good.
When it covers us, it covers everything.
Not through our books, not through our great preaching or being a great orator or being a great leader.
No, this is only one king gets the glory.
The king of kings.
And that is the one that shed the blood.
That's the one that resurrected.
That's the one that ascended into heaven.
That's the one that left the Holy Spirit behind.
Listen, it is through, it starts with the cross through the shedding of the blood.
It's not because of your great looks or how many businesses you have or how many people you have in your church or how many books you're written.
It's all about the cross.
Ricky, I think the simplicity of the authentic gospel of Jesus Christ, not to preach another gospel, but to preach the gospel that changes, transforms lives, that gives us the revelation to things like the mystery of the red heifer.
It's the one that gives us the mystery behind Israel.
It is the revelation that we get at the cross that we understand Bible prophecy today.
And I want to tell you something.
A lot of people want to skip a lot of parts of the Bible, but I want to tell you something.
Whoa.
Oh, the Bible is very clear about those woes unto you preachers.
And I want to tell you something.
I is one of them.
And I can talk to myself that way.
And I can talk to you that way because you are responsible not to change the gospel, either adding to it or taking away from it.
We got to preach the full gospel, even if it makes you uncomfortable.
That's right.
You know, hang on, we have actually the same exact Bible, so I can tell him to go, but right there, it was highlighted.
What does it say?
The very last chapter, the last few verses of the Bible right there, where it's highlighted.
What does it say right there?
If anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book.
And if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his share of the tree of life and the holy city, which are written about this book.
What an incredible warning that we've been given, friends.
If anyone adds anything to this Bible, a plague from this book will be added to them.
And if you take away anything from this word of God, this 66-book letter of love that the Lord has given to us, then our share of the tree of life and the holy city will also be taken away.
That is why, preacher, pastor, apostle, whatever you call yourself at home, elder, deacon, congregate member, it is important that when you teach the word of God, you teach the full word of God, not your opinion of the word of God, not your brother's, sister's opinion of the word of God, but the full word of God.
That is why we cling on to what the word of God says for our very lives, friends.
If the Bible says to agree with it, then we agree with it.
If the Bible says to reject it, then we reject it.
And I do that right here because of this very clear warning in Revelation chapter 22, verse 18 and 19, friends.
I want you to go open it up, read it for yourself today.
It is very, very important, friends, that we preach the full word of God.
And friends, I want to say thank you to those at home that allow us to broadcast on the PTL television network the full gospel of Jesus Christ.
It's because of your contributions, your prayers, your dedication, your standing steadfast with this ministry that we get to continue to preach the gospel of Jesus Christ, to tell people: yes, there are trials and tribulations in this lifetime.
Yes, there will be hard times in this lifetime, but we serve the King of Kings, the Lord of Lords, the beginning, the end, the Alpha, the Omega.
Friends, we serve that good God who was all God, came down to earth and was all man and said, Yes, I'm going to bear all sin on a cross and die for those and whom I love.
Friends, that's you.
Watching right now, that's you.
Christ died for you so that you could have intimacy with him, so that you could have relationship with him, so that you could be brought into the family, so that you could be seed of the Abraham, our seed of Abraham.
Mondo, it's critical, it's vital, it's important that we as believers understand the full gospel must be preached if we want to see revival.
Now, everyone wants revival.
Yes, we have revival services, we've seen Azusa Street Revival, we've seen the Asbury Revival, we've seen many works and moves of God.
But, friends, if we want to see another moment like that here in the United States of America and globally, we must consecrate ourselves once again to the Lord in prayer and fasting and dedicate our lives to Him.
You know, Mondo, we must also not be scared to answer the hard questions.
No, there are hard questions.
You know, people, the big topics right now are: are aliens real?
Does it have anything to do with me as a Christian?
Do I even have to care about that?
Is artificial intelligence something that's going to benefit or take away from my salvation or walk?
Or do I use it?
Do I not use it?
And another question that we've been getting a lot is: is the Antichrist alive?
Every generation before has said they've had an Antichrist.
How do we know that we actually have one?
Is he walking on the earth?
Friends, we're going to be asking these hard questions and we're going to be answering these hard questions at the Ready Now Expo 2025 here in Blue Eye, Missouri.
If you're going to sign up, sign up today, friends.
It's free and there's a banquet as well you can sign up for.
It's free as well.
But, friends, you can also watch online from the comfort of your home or in your church.
I had a pastor reach out and say, Hey, we're actually going to register our church for those three days that they can come and go as they please and watch any of the seminars, watch any of the activities.
Pastor, I encourage you to do that same thing.
Readynowexpo.com, watch this right now, and we're going to have some incredible guest speakers we're about to talk about.
I'm honored to be a part of this year's Morningside Expo conference on aliens, AI, and the Antichrist.
These topics have been a passion of mine in my preaching and teaching and writing for well over a dozen years.
My understanding of these topics comes from the contextual word of God from Genesis to Revelation, including a ton of professional and scientific research.
So, go to ReadyNowExpo.com and sign up.
See you there.
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You know, we have some incredible guests like LA Marzuli, Bishop Alan Didio.
We actually have had a few more people reach out over the next few days, which we'll be able to add to the lineup as well.
But this is an incredible event.
Mondo, believers should have the answers for the world's questions.
Absolutely.
Listen, when you look at what's happening with the Pope, you have to help answer those questions.
When you look at what's happening with the development of artificial intelligence and how does it relate to Bible prophecy, you got to have the answers, at least understanding of what this means biblically to the timeline that we find ourselves in.
And at the same time, what do we do as the church?
What do we do as a nation?
What is the nation of Israel doing and leading the way with artificial intelligence?
And where the biggest question is who and where will the Antichrist come from?
Who would it be?
How does it going to be using artificial intelligence?
And then the big one, aliens.
That's right.
Oh, man.
Listen, we got to stop getting our information from Google and let's go back to the word.
How about that?
Amen.
The word of God.
Friends, I want to welcome to the program Pastor Mondo Gonzalez.
We have him from Prophecy Watchers.
I want to say thank you, Pastor, for being on the broadcast with us today.
It's great to be here.
Amen.
You know, you study biblical archaeology in grad school.
And how has that influenced your study of the end times, these last days that I truly believe that we're living in?
You know, it's amazing to think that when you think about the reliability of scripture, archaeology really does do that.
And there's two angles on what we see in scripture that help us to see that the Bible is the most unique book in the world, and that is prophecy.
God says that in Isaiah 41, to compare all the books.
He's the only one that declares the future.
But archaeology does something very similar in that it helps us to go and dig and excavate.
And what do we see?
We dig out things that show us the reliability of scripture, that this book not only is prophetic, but it also is historical and all that it claims.
And ultimately, as we know, the gospel of Jesus Christ.
That Jesus was real.
He lived in a certain place at a certain time.
He died for the sins of humanity.
And all who trust in him will be saved.
So to me, it's been a fascinating journey to tie the two loves of my life, really, archaeology and certainly prophecy.
What's your opinion on the recent events between Israel and the terrorist organization Hamas?
Well, that's a fascinating topic as well.
What we're seeing is, I find it prophetic in the sense that no doubt what Israel did or what Hamas did on October 7th to Israel has changed the scope of Israel's perspective.
They realize that they are living right next door in an existential threat.
And so with the new administration coming in and giving them really the tools that they need to thwart this threat, there's a lot of application too as it relates to even the red heifer ceremony and other things.
But Israel is going to be strengthened.
We know in Ezekiel 37, 38 that it describes at the latter years, which we're living in, that Israel would become an exceedingly great army.
So Hamas and its actions have contributed to that and no doubt on the world scene.
Now, there's a lot of propaganda we know for sure, but for those that are willing to see the scripture shows us that these things would be and now it's happening.
Wow.
This is fascinating, right?
Because I don't know about you, Ricky, but I've watched movies about archaeology and how does it connect with biblical prophecy.
And it's fascinating that it's still one of the most interesting subject matters.
Oh, yeah.
But in the middle of that, you throw in the mysteries of the Bible.
Unprecedented Times: Red Heifer Revelation 00:05:16
That's right.
That changes everything.
Mondo, I got to ask you this.
Is the current global situation connected to prophetic signs on the soon-coming third temple?
Tell us more about this.
Oh, yeah.
To me, when you especially interact with the rabbis in Israel, over, you know, they've been working on the temple since 1967 when Israel in the Six-Day War took control.
And it's true that they gave the religious authority back to the Jordanians in that time.
But since that time, if people go to Israel, they can go to the Temple Institute and they can see that every single thing for the coming third temple, which the scripture says will be built, a physical third temple on the Temple Mount, every single thing that is required is completed.
They're just waiting.
They're waiting for the political will of the Israeli government.
The other thing that is not ready yet is, of course, the red heifer ceremony.
But even that is coming into focus.
Again, all the preparations are there.
And when you look at it geopolitically, we've seen over the past few years that Israel has been very careful because, again, they're in an existential threat right now.
And the previous administration wasn't very friendly to Israel.
So, and neither was the world.
Israel is a democracy.
It's a democracy in a bastion of dictatorships in the Middle East.
But yet it's fascinating that if you look at the United Nations, which again is very influenced by all, I would say, the Arab countries around the world, Israel is condemned more than any other country ever.
I mean, it's amazing how that's happened.
So, geopolitically, we see that Israel has been up against the wall, but now coming in again to just a different perspective.
What we see with Netanyahu, Netanyahu is describing the current administration as the friendliest ever to the country of Israel.
They're providing them what they need.
But it also, when you look at the religious movement there, the religious movement now is recognizing that there has been no better time of optimism as it relates to performing the red heifer ceremony, which happens on the Mount of Olives,
as well as the building of the third temple, because they truly believe that Trump, right or wrong, this is their belief, they believe that he is the Cyrus, the Gentile Messiah, Isaiah 45, the Cyrus of our generation.
So to me, when you look at all the things that are happening, the geopolitics absolutely have a part to play in what we're seeing unfold.
You know, as a cohort of prophecy watchers, after the red heifer prophecy, what would have been the most interesting prophecy revealed on your program?
But we have seen the red heifer prophecy.
How many decades has this been followed, Naman?
I mean, probably centuries at this point.
Absolutely.
But being on mainstream media sources for the Christian world, we've probably seen it really focused in on the last 40 years, 50 years or so.
We now have a red heifer.
We have a few that they say are in perfect condition, that they're able to start the ceremonies.
What is the most interesting part of this prophecy for you that you revealed on Prophecy Watchers?
The fascinating thing, as you mentioned, is, you know, I got saved in 1993 and immediately started studying prophecy and looking.
And of course, throughout the 90s, I have this document into the book where, you know, there's been ideas and hopes and dreams of a different red cow and here or there.
And there's been some red cows that were born that were very, people were excited about it.
And then it would become disqualified relatively quickly.
But this is the first time.
What happened in 2022, September 15th of 2020, when you had all of these five cows in a row, five cows together, come over to Israel, they became of age in November of 23.
So since then, I'll give an update.
Since then, that there's only three qualified left.
Two are very, very qualified.
One is, you know, kind of iffy.
They're not sure yet.
But what I will say is that what's amazing about this, just again, living right here in the last couple of years, this is the first time in the last 2,000 years that there's been at least one qualified red heifer, and there's two, possibly three.
So we are living in times that are unprecedented.
Again, a cow here, a cow there, but to have it provided right at this moment, again, the excitement is so beyond it.
And again, I'm not really, I'm not a sensationalist.
I'm really not, if people know me.
But we can honestly say, in the last 2,000 years, this moment right now that we're living in is unprecedented.
That's so true.
You know, I want to ask you this question.
What is the Psalm 19 project?
We've heard about this.
We've read about this.
What is the Psalm 19 project, Mondo?
I appreciate you asking about that.
Psalm 19, verse 1, the heavens declare the glory of God and the skies above show his handiwork.
Sharing God's Majesty Through Astronomy 00:15:34
So what we've done is through the Lord's provision, we have built a university class observatory with very nice telescopes and cameras.
And we've been able to take photographs of these very unique objects in the heavens that reveal the beauty, the majesty, the power, the artist, the artistic creativity of our God.
And so we share those, Psalm19project.com.
People can check it out.
What's been amazing about it is, you know, there's a lot of skepticism out there, you know, maybe even people that reject NASA or other things.
And they'll make claims that these pictures are fake that NASA has.
And I was like, well, let's check it out.
I've been doing astronomy a long time, my adult life.
And so we take pictures and ours are real.
I mean, so regardless of all that, what it does is it shows people, again, the glory of God.
That's exactly what the scripture says.
And it introduces to us the things that the Lord has created that if we think about it, all of human history, all of human history have never been able to see any of these things, except for really the first pictures that were ever taken of astronomy objects.
It was in the 1890s.
So here we are at the end of human history, and we have the ability to share with people the truly magnificence of our God.
The fascinating about all of this is we have to study.
And you know, what I have noticed is a pretty large trend in the Christian community to say, just entirely reject.
Completely.
You know, so we'll say, oh, it's all or nothing.
And, you know, Mario said, excuse me, Mondo has said very, very clearly that they took the photos themselves.
So it's easy to say, well, we're going to reject everything NASA does.
I mean, there was a gentleman.
He's been on this broadcast.
We love this showman.
He's a good man.
But he says, hey, anything NASA puts out, anything they produce is absolutely 100% unequivocally fake.
And, you know, I understand the position.
We allow anyone to come here and share their position.
But also, we have to understand there is still a heavens.
There's still an earth.
There's still stars out there.
We still want to know what God has given us because he said he's given us the heavens for what?
Signs, for seasons.
He's done that since the beginning of time in Genesis.
So it's important, Mondo, how important is it that Christians kind of ensure that they don't close themselves off completely to signs in the heavens?
Yeah, no, absolutely.
Because we know in Luke 21, this was going to be, Jesus said it, that there would be signs in the heavens so severe that men's heart would fail them.
It's part of the category of what Jesus tells us in the Elevet Discourse to be watching.
And so as Christians, I think that we can do that.
I mean, I was a pastor for a long time.
So you interact with a lot of different types of Christians in different places in their walk and maturity levels and knowledge levels.
But what I've seen over the past few years is people saying, well, that's irrelevant.
Why are we doing that?
We just need to preach the gospel.
But as you guys were talking earlier, we do preach the gospel.
In Acts 20, 27, Paul tells us that we are to preach the whole counsel of God, which includes understanding end time events, which again would include signs in the heavens.
So I think if we're going to be faithful Christians, we don't have the option to simply ignore the commands of Jesus to be watching for these things.
That's right.
I really believe that.
I want to think for just a moment, right?
Because where we are as a people is the research recently, Ricky, is showing that there is an epidemic of biblical illiteracy in the church.
It says we're the highest rate of biblical illiteracy in generations.
So when we have people like Mondo writing a book and doing the research, most people don't understand it because they don't read their word.
So how can they even align?
And listen, I get tired of people's opinions about certain subject matters that are not well researched through the word and through the Bible.
Yet millions of people believe in those opinions.
Opinions are not the foundation of the word.
You have to understand that there are certain subject matters that we're discussing today that have a biblical worldview that's great, but they have a foundation biblically on the meaning behind it and why there's such prophecy behind and why should we be watching for the fulfillment in the signs in the times that we're in right now.
But unless you know your word, you're lost.
You don't know what time and season you're in right now.
So I'm actually reading this right now.
And Pastor Amondo, I want to get your opinion on this.
Right here from a Barna study, it says 4% of Christians are biblically literate.
4%.
Pastor, you're a part of prophecy watchers.
How are we going to effectively watch prophecy unfold before our eyes whenever there's a study that says 4% of Bible-based Christians here in the United States of America are biblically literate?
Yeah, this is the problem.
And, you know, as a pastor myself, again, I put the blame on the pastors because oftentimes the pastors either are not preaching all of the word of God as we're talking, or, again, the person in the pew has their own responsibilities.
That we're living in an age, and every pastor knows this.
When you're out there and you're trying to grow the church through the Spirit's help, you realize that the enemy has come in to the church and provided all sorts of distraction.
Okay, it could be sports on Sunday mornings with their kids or other things, other extracurricular things at school, you name it.
But at the end of the day, every Christian and every Christian parent has to say, we're going to prioritize the study of scripture.
I'm going to make sure that my kid is at the Sunday school class or at the weekly study class or and we're studying at home.
Because what you just described, this is really the most detrimental thing in all of church life is not knowing the scripture.
Isaiah 4, right, tells us that my people are destroyed by the lack of knowledge, not only of God himself, but also of the scriptures.
So what we're seeing now is very, again, it's an epidemic in the church, and each person has a responsibility to respond and fix it.
Amen.
You know, you recently said that the church has become relatively sanitized against a spiritual background.
God is raising up people to help the church read their own Bibles with the supernatural worldview.
And that goes right into this vein of conversation.
So can you explain exactly what you mean by that to our partners at home?
Absolutely.
We see is we know that as we live in an increasingly secular culture, again, not only as adults, but our kids are being educated in government schools, most type, or even secular universities.
So, what does that mean?
It means that they're looking at things only in a form of naturalism.
And naturalism is, again, the opposite of supernatural.
And so, what we're watching is this culture make its way into the church.
And so, then what you have is pastors and teachers and seminaries.
I mean, I saw this in seminary myself, where people look at the scripture.
And when the scripture says that, for example, in the book of Numbers, that a donkey spoke to Balaam, they're going to go, well, that's not really what it means.
That was just a figure of speech or it was something else.
And so, they've come to recognize and to teach that we have to approach the Bible in the same way that we approach everything else.
Again, from a non-supernatural perspective.
And so, in the church, it becomes sanitized in that we don't want to talk about the supernatural perspective.
We don't want to talk about angels or even Nephilim or even aliens in that regard.
We only want to address those things that are hard, that are fast, right in front of us, physical.
And so, the church, when we think about the church is, by accepting that, the church is missing out that we are in a war.
Ephesians 6:12, we wrestle not against flesh and blood, against not things that are physical, but against principalities and powers and hosts, spiritual hosts of wickedness in heavenly places.
As soon as we do that, we're in a war now that we're denying.
And so, we are just, it's going to harm every single Christian.
And so, by being, when I say sanitized, they look and they go, well, we don't talk about that.
We don't talk about it.
It's not real.
And therefore, they are sitting ducks for a true non-human, super powerful spiritual enemy.
You know, Pastor, you have a book right here called The Red Heifer, right here, The Mystery of the Red Heifer.
This is through Charisma House.
I want to make sure you can go and get this on our website.
You can scan their QR code or go to the number, which is 1-888-988-1588, or the website, which has our Charisma House affiliate program.
Mondo, Israel, the end times, and the building of the third temple, the mystery of the red heifer.
What a timely book.
Because really, these things are happening right now.
You know what's crazy is that the world sometimes pays more attention to this biblical signs than the church itself.
True.
Because they're wondering, they know there's a biblical proportional event that is going to take place.
And why is it connected to the red heifers?
Why is it connected to certain things?
And if the world is interested, why shouldn't the church be more?
This is the thing.
This is part of our gospel.
This is part of our lineage.
This is part of our history.
This is something that every church, but you know why you don't like it?
Because you get bored.
Can we be honest?
You get bored.
You're not that interesting.
It's not feeling your churches.
But it's one of the most critical signs that we must understand about the end times.
Prophecy balances itself with the word.
Amen.
I know you want dramatic sometimes, but sometimes prophecy stands still with the word, meaning that there are certain signs that involve heifers.
There's signs that involve temples.
But behind that, you have to understand biblically how does that going to affect you in your everyday life?
How do you pray for this event?
How do we understand it as the development of all of this?
The key is this.
When you read your word, the Spirit of God will reveal himself through the word so you can understand.
Because a lot of you, when you hear this type of topic, you tune out because you're not connecting with it.
But I'm telling you, the moment you connect to what the word says about Israel, it changes your perspective immediately.
That's right.
Ricky, there's a blessing when you connect with Israel and the mysteries behind it.
And once you get in touch and in the understanding of what this means, you will read the Bible differently.
That's right.
You know, the mystery of the red heifer, you focus on the emergence of the perfect red heifer.
I want to, you know, maybe for those who don't know at home, explain why a red heifer is a crucial element for the construction of this third temple.
Explain why it has to be what they consider a perfect red heifer and why they haven't been able to do this until this moment now.
Yeah, I think it's important for people to know that the red heifer appears in the Bible.
It's in Numbers chapter 19.
It was part of God's way of purifying the external, the ritual impurity in the Old Testament.
Now, granted, we're living under the New Testament.
We understand that.
We don't have a temple.
The temple was destroyed in 70 AD.
And we come to the book of Hebrews and we realize that all of our faith and trust in Jesus, Jesus is the fulfillment of all those Old Testament sacrifices.
But we got to think differently for a moment.
Not that we're challenging the sufficiency of Jesus.
But what's happening now, what the Bible tells us, is that this third temple would be built by Jews who do not believe in Jesus.
And that is exactly what is coming to fruition.
And I'm not saying that God is endorsing that third temple or that God wants that because, again, Jesus was the fulfillment of all these things.
But in order for the Jewish people to be saved, and we know that'll happen at the end of the tribulation period that is coming, the 70th week of Daniel, we see all these things come into be.
Now, for a Jewish person, again, a rabbinic Jew, a religious Jew that doesn't believe in Jesus, their whole goal is they believe that they, in order to reach the Father and to honor him, they have to go back to Moses.
They have to build a temple.
And so for them, in ancient times, in the Old Testament, a red heifer was always required.
So for them, today, hypothetically, they could build the temple, but they would say, well, we can't use it because we need the red heifer.
We need the red heifer, which ultimately is in a ceremony and is burned, according to Numbers 19.
You take the ashes, you mix it with water, and that mixture that you take can be sprinkled on people and places, you know, locations in order to ritually purify it.
So for a religious Jew today, they realize even though we've done everything else for the temple, we need the red cow.
And there has been no red cows that have qualified in 2,000 years.
That's why it's fascinating to see these red cows appear at this time.
Again, not just one, but two and possibly even three at this period of time, showing us that the return of the Lord is very soon.
You know, while writing this mystery of the red heifer, did the Holy Spirit lead you to any specific verses, stories, or accounts inside this book when someone orders this that they have to look forward to?
Yeah, to me, one of the amazing thing is I documented, I was able to meet with the people that did all this, and I was able to meet with them and document the story.
And it was fascinating to me how, again, at every moment, I was like, okay, you know, should I research this?
You know, because my background is also in Jewish studies from my undergrad.
So I understand rabbinic theology.
And the Lord just kept guiding and guiding and brought me through a lot of these other events to be able to meet with the people.
And these are people who love Jesus, solid believers.
But it's amazing to me, and I document in there some of these things that are in the rabbinic literature about stories about diamond dealers and other Gentiles.
And yet, if you go to Texas and you see the people that were providing these cows, one of them, they're Gentiles, and they are, as an example, one has a ranch and his brother's a diamond dealer.
And it's like history is repeating itself going back in the religious writings from 2,000 years ago.
And so God is allowing these things in order to show that we are approaching the end of the age.
And again, people can argue back and forth about how much they should or shouldn't support the temple movement.
And I talk about this in the book.
I have whole chapters and other people, prophecy teachers and stuff that discuss it.
But what God wants us to understand is this is moving forward.
He's bringing this world to a close with the return of the Lord Jesus, which I hope that we're all excited about because when we look out at the world, we recognize there's so much human trafficking and evil and sex trafficking, all these other things, and Jesus is coming back to fix it.
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And so in all of that, God is showing us, and part of this book does that, how he's coming to do it.
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Ricky, as things are developing right now, listen, it's so important that we understand the scripture, but it's also understanding the times and the seasons that we're in right now, because we're watching a trade war that is beginning to take place with this tariff talk.
That's right.
And it has some implications for nations.
It has implications for Americans.
But it also has a future with it because when people don't understand what these tariffs mean, people fall into fear.
And if you're fearful just about this headline and what's happening right now, then you're not ready for what's coming.
And what's coming is going to be more shocking than something about the trade wars with tariffs.
But we're watching nations aligning to biblical prophecy like we've never seen before.
We watch this headline right here.
Again, these are things that are happening in Israel right now.
And I want to switch a little bit, Mondo, just real quick.
Give us an insight on what's happening with Israel and how does it relate to Bible prophecy right now.
Oh, absolutely.
What we're seeing is we're seeing Israel continue to, again, be picked on by the world.
We know that in the last days, there's going to be a tremendous amount of anti-Semitism.
We've seen this over the past few years, even into the college campuses in our country.
But what's happening now is Israel is continuing to establish itself as a power in the Middle East.
We also know that in doing this, we see, as we saw in the first administration of Trump, the Abrahamic Accords, where this idea of peace in the Middle East.
So as we watch things unfold, everything is following, again, a prophetic plan that God had said would happen because we know that there's going to be difficulty for Israel.
But in the end, when you have this agreement that is made by the Antichrist in Daniel 9, 27 with the Jewish people, you think, well, that's kind of odd that this coming world leader would make an agreement with the Jewish people.
I mean, Israel being so small relatively in all the nations of the world, but yet this coming world ruler is going to be involved with them.
And so Israel is showing itself by God's help to be a world player.
We also know that Israel is going to end up being alone.
They're going to be alone.
They're going to be attacked eventually by not only Ezekiel 38, 39, this coalition of nations, but ultimately, anti-Semitism in the land of Israel is going to come to a head.
We see Zachariah 12, where God predicts that Jerusalem would be this burdensome stone, that all nations would come against it.
And if you look around right now, there's no doubt this difficulty that Israel is having with his neighbors is causing consternation in the nations of the world and the United Nations itself.
So scripture is right now being fulfilled.
So true.
You know, it's powerful.
You know, I want to ask a question about these red heifers again.
Did Islam see them as a threat?
We've heard reports that they are people who say that they attacked on October 7th due to these red heifers going to Israel, making and touching down landing in Israel.
Pastor, I want to get your opinion on that.
You've been studying this.
You've written an entire book about the mystery of the red heifer.
Is the red heifer a threat to Islam?
Well, it's interesting who you ask because within, there's no doubt Hamas, let's put some time frame, and I talk about this again in the book, where Hamas attacked Israel October 7th of 2023.
Never mention ever of anything with the red cows.
The red cows had been there for a full year, and so they, nothing.
But then Israel responded.
Israel responded with their war, with the war, obviously to go in and remove Hamas.
Well, then in January of 2024, several months later, Hamas comes out with, again, a, I would call it very as what it is.
They are masters at propaganda.
So they realized, hmm, what happened on October 7th?
They lost a lot of public opinion because of, again, murdering babies and other things, which we're still seeing many of those bodies being returned right now.
But in January of 24, they came out and they said one of the reasons that they attacked was because of the red cows.
So did they ever mention that before?
No.
But when public opinion turned against them, they brought out the red cows idea.
Now, the reason I say it depends on who you ask is when you think about Saudi Arabia, again, Mecca, Medina, it's the foundation and really historical area of Islam.
Today, they recognize, well, the word Jerusalem doesn't appear in the Quran, not even once.
Not even once.
And so when they look at it, there's certain groups within Saudi Arabia who say, let them build their temple.
We don't care.
But those are primarily, again, the Saudi Arabia Sunni groups.
It's the other groups that are vying for their own control within Islam itself.
Again, Islam is divided amongst itself.
So when you think about that question, are the red cows a threat to Islam?
The Saudi Arabians don't think so.
The other ones, the red cows aren't really a threat to even Shiite Islam.
What's a threat to them is Israel itself.
They don't want Israel to even be there at all.
Again, from the river to the sea, would Palestine be free of all Jews.
And so in that sense, they're using their red cows as a propaganda piece.
You know, does that mean that the Antichrist can't come until the red heifers are found and the temple is built?
That's the question I have for you now.
Well, no, I think the I think when, according to Daniel 9, 27, the scripture is pretty clear that the Antichrist makes an agreement.
He makes a covenant.
The word is a covenant.
Some people think it's a peace agreement.
That's not what it says.
It's a covenant.
If you look at the word covenant, Beret, in the rest of the book of Daniel, it's referring to the Mosaic covenant.
So when the Antichrist comes on the scene, what does he do?
He strengthens or confirms the Mosaic covenant with the Jewish people.
And what do we know?
Well, the second part of Daniel 9:27 is talking about the sacrifices and offerings ceasing.
So When we see that, what he does when he shows up on the scene, he somehow is able to either provide a guarantee or a security for them to then build the temple.
So it's possible that the red heifer could be slain this coming season between Passover.
It could happen this year.
There doesn't need to be a specific season on it.
Or it could happen after the Antichrist arrives.
We don't know.
All we know is that in the middle of that 70th week, Daniel 9:27, the temple is existing.
It's there.
They're in the process of performing these sacrifices and they're stopped.
Now, how long were they offering them?
A week, two years, three years, five years, ten years?
The Bible doesn't say.
So we could see, I think we most likely will see the red heifer because it's coming before us right now.
But there's no specific association of timing whether the Antichrist needs to be here or not be here.
You know, the appearance of the red heifer is a clear sign of the end times.
We see this.
We study this.
What are believers called to do during these last days?
I know you're a pastor, you're a researcher, you're an incredibly intelligent man, but as a Christian, first and foremost, what is the believer's role in these last days?
Absolutely.
You know, every presentation that I do, and it's the last thing I end up in the book, I mention two things.
And these are commandments.
These are spoken by the Lord Jesus Himself.
And so, again, we don't have the luxury simply to ignore them.
And the first is Mark 13:37.
What Jesus says after giving all of these descriptions in the Olivet Discourse, he says, What I say to you, I say to everybody, watch.
You need to be watching.
You need to be learning and understanding and keeping an eye out on all these things that are happening.
Again, God's not saying you have to be an expert and you have to start a podcast, but as a Christian, it's your responsibility to have a basic understanding of watching.
Jesus said to be aware and to be ready.
The second thing he said in the same context of his return is in Luke 19:13.
And this is a passage where Jesus gives a parable about going away and then coming back.
And he gives gifts to his servants.
And then he comes back and he says, But look, while I'm gone, this is your job.
Occupy until I come.
Be busy.
You know, be serving my interests.
I gave you gifts.
You need to be serving the kingdom until I return.
That's also, again, a commandment.
And so when I think about those two things, being watching and serving the Lord, that's very comprehensive.
It also reminds us, too, that when I think of one of the reasons that I wrote this book was to equip the church to be, again, to fulfill the idea of being watching and to be knowledgeable.
Because when the ceremony happens, as we've been discussing, the world is noticing.
I have family members that don't know Jesus, and they come and they say, Hey, what's going on here?
And I want us as Christians to be equipped with the knowledge of when this ceremony takes place, they're able to say, Did you know that the Bible says A, B, C, and D about this?
And it shows us that we're living at the end times, and you need to put your faith and trust in Jesus.
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Ultimately, what this does is going to equip the people to be ready, as 1 Peter 3:15, always be ready to give a defense, ultimately to point them to the gospel and see people get saved.
Amen.
What an incredible way to put it.
Pastor, I appreciate that.
You know, as we wrap up the beginning or the end of this show, from the beginning, it feels like it was just been a few minutes, but it's already been 50 minutes.
I can't believe that.
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A question that we get a lot in emails and in the mail as well is how many of the red heifers that they have there in Israel are still qualified and what actually causes a red heifer to become disqualified?
You know, because they say it can be qualified for a season of its life and then become disqualified.
Do you have the answer to those questions, Pastor?
No, absolutely.
When we look at Numbers 19, God gives very specific things, and he talks about these cows.
It has to be a red cow.
It could never have been pregnant.
It has to be a female heifer.
It could never have a yoke on it, so it could never have been worked.
It also has to be unblemished, so it can't have like a scar on it or anything else.
But what the rabbis have done is, which is typical for their religious writings, is they added some extra regulations in order when God says it has to be red, the question is, well, how red?
You know, could it be half red or 90% red or 99% red?
Well, for them, they have put on these extra rules.
And that's why if you see pictures of them, they're down there with magnifying glasses.
I mean, they're looking at all these things because what they've decided is that we're going to make sure it's really red.
So you can have maybe one black hair on its head, maybe a black hair on its tail, but if it has two non-red hairs coming out of the same follicle, then it's disqualified.
And so this is how detailed and how very specific they have done.
And so right now there are two that are 100% still qualified.
There is no upper H. There's no, in the writings, even to the Jewish perspective, the Jewish religious perspective, there's no upper H.
But there's no doubt there's a reality to it that the longer you let these cows live, there's a potential that it could walk up against a fence and get scarred, you know, from maybe a fence line or something sharp, you know, and barbed wire.
So it's in their best interest to do it while they're still qualified.
There is a third one that is, again, preliminary qualified as well.
Again, other two have been fully disqualified for other reasons.
So when they're looking at this and they're looking at the ceremony, they only need one.
They only need one.
And right now they have two, possibly three.
Wow.
You know, it's interesting, Mondo, that these, are these the cows that were born here in the United States of America, Pastor?
Right?
They're from Texas?
Correct.
They were born in Texas, two different ranches.
You know, two different ranches.
They then fly them over to Israel.
You know, Hamas comes out with propaganda that says that we attacked Israel because of these red heifers.
And people are saying it takes a very long time to burn one of these red heifers.
And during the duration of that burning of this red heifer, that third world war would truly break out over it.
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Pastor, what's your opinion on that?
Well, it is correct.
There was a professor from Bari Laun University who did a practice burn back in 2019.
And it burned, most of it burned in pretty much one day.
I mean, it's talking a thousand degrees, but it takes a couple days for the ashes to cool off in order for them to be collected.
What I would say is that if Israel does this, they are going to do it with the permission.
They have to do it with the permission of the Israeli government.
It cannot be done in secret because the location, the Talmudic literature, the rabbinic messianaic literature, it says very clearly it has to be done on the Mount of Olives.
I've been there.
I've been to the site.
I know exactly where it is.
It's surrounded by Arab villages.
It's well known.
So this is going to be one huge bonfire when it happens.
You're talking about a 600, 800-pound cow or larger that is going to happen.
It cannot be done in secret.
There's no way that you could look around.
The fire department would be called.
The police would be called.
It's very tight in there.
But with security, You can get it done.
And I would say the same thing that what we saw, let's go back to 2017 when Trump decided that he was going to be the president that moved the embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.
I mean, that legislation had been approved back in the 90s under Bill Clinton.
And all of the presidents since then just punted.
They said, we're not going to deal with it.
Trump said, I'll do it.
And yet, what did you see?
You saw threats of World War III.
You saw threats of all these things.
And Trump said, nah, it won't happen.
So could it be similar to that where you have all these prognostications of World War III and yet they do it?
And it's a red cow and nothing happens.
Possibly.
I mean, it didn't happen the first time.
And with Israel, again, Israel would do with proper security.
We also see within Israel government right now in fighting this war, they have become very determined because of all this.
You are not going to tell us what to do in our own land.
That's right.
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Marlo, this would make a great gift.
This would make a great study for a Bible study.
Honestly, this is a very excellent read, and it's also a quick read, which I love about it.
You could probably finish this.
If you're reading slowly, you could finish it over the course of a week, or if you really want to dive into it, you can finish it over a few days.
But, friends, this is important information because it's the times we're living in.
Truly, we're here.
100 years ago, 200 years ago, all of these things were talked about, but Israel wasn't a nation at that time.
They may have said we're in the end times, but the culmination of all these prophetic events weren't happening at the same time like we're seeing right now.
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And we haven't had these perfect red heifers like we're seeing right now, two, possibly three, and they only need one for the burning to happen.
And as we're watching Israel, the war there is not over.
No, not over.
The escalation of the tension there with Iran, and then you got Turkey in the background, you got Syria in the background.
I mean, you're watching Bible prophecy.
You're watching the Bible come to life in a way that we in our 21st century culture is watching this in real time.
That's right.
And understanding the message behind it is going to be so important for every Christian to stay tuned, to pay attention, to keep watch.
Listen, this is not the time to get involved in so many different conversations that are out there today.
Stay in the word, pray, fast, understand that God's timing on everything is working perfectly.
But in the middle of all that, Ricky, in Matthew 24, Jesus calls out deception three times.
That's right.
We will be deceived.
I wish we had time to talk about the apostasy.
Listen, all this is lining up to what the Bible calls the end of an age.
Get ready, be ready.
Make sure that your heart is right with God.
Keep short accounts with him.
And I want to tell you something.
Stay watchful.
That's right.
Friends, I want you to open up your Bible to Romans chapter 5, verse 12 right here.
It says, Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man and the death through sin, in this way, death spread to all people.
That's all of us, because all sin.
In fact, sin was in the world before the law, but sin is not charged to a person's account when there is no law.
Nevertheless, death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over those who did not sin in the likeness of Adam's transgressions.
He is a type of the coming one.
But the gift is not like the trespass.
For if by one man's trespass many died, how much more have the grace of God and the gift which comes through the grace of the one man, Jesus Christ, overflowed to many?
And the gift is not like one man's sin because from one man's sin came the judgment, resulting in condemnation.
But from many trespasses came the gift, resulting in justification.
Friend, we have death through Adam and life through Jesus Christ.
Give your heart to Jesus.
It is the most important decision you will ever make on this side of eternity.
Mondo, eternity lasts a long time.
Heaven is forever.
Hell is forever.
Friends, we care about your eternal position far more than we care about your temporary comfort here on the earth.
We want you to go to heaven.
We want you to spend eternity with Jesus Christ, but it takes you saying yes to the good gift that he has presented to you.
Mondo, if you would have 28, 29, 30 years ago had been presented the gospel of Jesus Christ and hardened your heart to it and said no, how much different would your life have looked like today?
I'd be dead.
There's no question.
I'll be dead.
Yeah.
The gospel has changed my life, has saved me.
And the reason why I'm still sitting here today is because his mercy and his grace and people praying for me.
But I want to tell you something.
The truth will set you free.
Come on.
And the gospel was the truth in my life at that very moment.
And it continues to be the only truth.
Amen.
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Pastor Mondo Gonzalez, I want to thank you for being on the broadcast with us today and talking about your book, The Mystery of the Red Heifer.
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Pastor Mondo, thank you again.
God bless you.
Hopefully, we'll see you again soon.
And remember, friends, God loves you.
He really does.
Bye-bye for today.
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