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Feb. 21, 2025 - Jim Bakker Show
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The Jim Bakker Show James Tan and Alan Didio
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Stand on the Full Word 00:12:33
Hello and welcome to the Jim Baker Family Show coming to you from the village of Morningside, USA, NASA, the beautiful Ozark Mountains.
Today, our special guest is an author, the pastor of Encounter Charlotte in Charlotte, North Carolina, and podcast host, Bishop Alan DiTeo and author, founding president of the Covenant Fellowship of Ministries International, Dr. James Tan.
Our co-host today is Reverend Mondo de la Vega.
And now, live from Gray Street at Morningside, USA, here's your host, Pastor Ricky Baker.
Hello, friends.
You're watching the PTL Television Network.
We are glad you have tuned in with us today.
If you're watching live or on video on demand on one of our apps, we want to say thank you.
You're supporting this ministry and you're about to get some incredible teaching from two mighty men of God.
Friends, I want you to open your Bible right now.
We're going to be opening up to 2 Corinthians.
I'm going to be reading after chapter 2.
I'm going to start in verse 5.
Again, if you are on an iOS device, Android device, open up that Bible app.
If you have a physical Bible in front of you, get your pen out and get ready to mark some things.
2 Corinthians chapter 2, I'm going to start in verse 5.
If anyone has caused pain, he has caused pain not so much to me, but to some degree.
Not to exaggerate, to all of you.
This punishment by the majority is sufficient for that person.
As a result, you should instead forgive and comfort him.
Otherwise, he might be overwhelmed by excessive grief.
Therefore, I urge you to reaffirm your love to him.
I wrote you for this purpose, to test your character, to see if you are obedient in everything.
Anyone you forgive, I do too.
For what I have forgiven, if I have forgiven anything, it is for your benefit in the presence of Christ, so that we may not be taken advantage of by Satan.
For we are not ignorant of his schemes.
See, friends, God will meet you at your place of brokenness, but I want to tell you, Satan will meet you at your place of ignorance.
We are not to be ignorant of the schemes.
And friends, a wedge between you and a brother or sister, a wedge between you and another member of your church, a wedge between you and your pastor, the devil will use any foothold he can get.
If you leave a window open, friends, he's going to see if he can crawl through that window.
We must slam every door shut in Christ's love.
Because friends, when you say I'm a believer and you walk in the fullness of what God has for you, we practice what the Bible says.
And the Bible says we restore one another.
It doesn't say in the spirit of haughtiness, in the spirit of ego.
No, in the spirit of meekness.
Friends, when a believer falls down, do you extend your hand out or do you pull your phone out?
Do you extend your hand out to say, believer, get back up, keep running that race, don't stay down?
Or do we say, how quickly can I get this on social media before the next person does so that I can be the originator, so the shares can come from my account?
Friends, I'll tell you right now, gossiping about another believer is still gossiping, whether it's done with your thumbs or whether it's done with your tongue.
Just because you didn't say it to another believer, it didn't mean it.
I'm telling you, friend, we must take care of each other in this body of Christ.
We have to honor one another.
We give honor where honor is due, friends.
The word of God's clear.
Don't touch my anointing.
Do my prophet no harm.
Friends, I'll tell you right now, you're anointed of God.
You have it on you.
And your brother and sister, even if you don't agree with everything they do in a church level, friends, they can be anointed by God too.
We need to restore one another.
We need to honor one another.
Because I promise you, it's the goodness of the Lord.
It's the goodness of God that will lead a man to repentance.
A man who has a broken heart, a man who has a bitter heart, a man who has a hard heart can only be softened through an encounter with Jesus Christ.
The word of God says that Saul was breathing murderous threats towards the Christians.
That means it was on the freshness of his mouth.
He was on that Damascus road, and he had a Damascus road experience when Christ looked at him and said, Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting?
Not my church.
No, he didn't say that.
Why are you persecuting Christians?
Nope, he didn't say that either, friend.
Why are you persecuting me?
Friends, I'll tell you right now, we need to be cautious of excessive persecution.
That doesn't mean there's not accountability.
I'm talking excessive persecution of your brother and your sister.
Why?
Because they're part of the body of Christ.
And Christ said, why do you persecute me?
It should be our goal that every man and woman of God be restored back to the fullness of what it is that God had intended for them and walk in their full calling, friend.
I love you.
That's why we're strong on the PTL television network.
That's why we'll never back away from the message.
That's why we'll always bring people on here that you might not agree with everything they say theologically.
You may not agree with some pre-trib, post-trib, mid-trib, no rapture, yes, rapture.
You might not agree with all those things.
But do we agree with the things that are a salvation issue?
Yes, yes, yes.
Friends, if you can say yes, then we can have fun conversations, good dialogue about the rest of it.
But friends, we need to ensure the salvation issues are rooted in the word of God alone.
When I became a Christian, I lost my right to an opinion.
Ricky, what do you feel about this?
What do you feel about this?
I feel a lot of ways about this, but what does the word of God say about this?
Friends, that is what matters right now.
Give your life to Jesus.
It's the best decision you'll ever make.
It's the most precious decision you'll ever make.
Friends, you might lose family.
You might lose friends.
You might lose career opportunities, but you'll gain your life.
You'll gain eternal life.
And you'll gain one of the sweetest things that has ever, ever, ever existed.
Forgiveness of sins, restoration, and relationship with the Holy Spirit.
Friends, you're watching the PTL Television Network.
We have some incredible men of God I want to talk with today.
We're going to be having some hard conversations, some good conversations, and some conversations you need to hear.
We have Dr. James Tam with us here today and Bishop Alan Dadio.
Bishop, I shake your hand if I had a little longer of an arm.
I'm only 5'10, so I can only reach so far before it starts looking ridiculous.
You know, you both, you're an evangelist, a mighty man of God.
You pastor a church in North Carolina.
We have seen the devil try so hard to attack the body of Christ, to destroy the body of Christ, to try to crack the foundation, which by the way, he can't.
If it's Jesus Christ, there's no crack in that foundation.
What he tries to do is he tries to get you to question your foundation, and that's when you start seeing cracks.
It's never Christ that cracks.
It's your thought process.
It's your beliefs that crack, friends.
I'll let you know that right now.
The Bible is a good foundation.
It's the only foundation you can step your feet on and be rest assured in.
How important is it that we continuously ensure our foundation is good?
I want to start with you.
Oh, listen.
Foundations are everything.
You know, I remember years ago, I was traveling through Southeast Asia, and I'm driving down the road with people bringing down church, and they pointed out something far away.
And they said, look, Pastor, that was supposed to be the largest mall in this whole region.
And I said, well, how long has it been left?
When's it going to be open?
He said, oh, no, it's been postponed indefinitely.
And I said, well, how come?
He says, after they built it and everything, they found out that something had gone wrong with how they laid the foundations and portions of the building was sinking.
Now, it looked great and grand and fancy on the outside, but it was sinking on the inside.
Come on.
Listen, foundations determine how far and how high we can go in the things of God.
Come on.
Foundations are important.
They're everything.
Amen.
Bishop.
Well, the problem is foundations aren't entertaining.
Oh, wow.
You know, it's not the part of the building that you look at that's beautiful, that you enjoy.
The foundation is the thing you never saw.
And there was an artist in Columbus, Ohio, who put together the Art Museum, if I'm not mistaken.
And they wanted to create the building in a very modern way to show that there are no real rules, right?
So they had staircases that went nowhere, and they had all kinds of things that made no sense whatsoever to prove that you don't really need to have order, that it can just be chaos.
Of course, we know how the secular world is.
And a wise man asks, but did you have the same idea when you built the foundation of that building?
Wow.
Because when building the foundation, you can't be as joking about it.
You can't be as lighthearted about it.
You've got to be very serious about the foundation.
The Bible says we are not ignorant concerning the devil's devices.
I think a lot of Christians are ignorant concerning the devil's devices.
And as a result, they have no foundation in Christ.
So they are ignorant of what the enemy's been doing.
But we're going to take the cover off today.
That's right.
The ignorance will lead a man to a Matthew 7 interaction.
Friends, open your Bible, Matthew 7, verse 21.
It says, Not everyone who says to me, Lord, Lord, will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father in heaven.
On that day, many will come to me saying, Lord, Lord, didn't we prophesy in your name, drive out demons in your name, and do many miracles in your name?
I want to pause and caveat there.
The reason that they could do those things is because the name of Jesus is still powerful and pure and righteous and will meet people where they are if they have faith.
Friends, that's why it can still be going forward and demons can be driven out and miracles can be done.
Then I will announce to them, I never knew you.
Depart from me, your lawbreakers.
Most sermons stop right there.
Boom.
Hey, let's move on.
Next Sunday, we'll talk a new sermon series, whatever it is.
Friends, context.
He says, therefore, the next verse is a direct follow-up.
Therefore, he's still talking.
The sermon doesn't stop there.
Everyone who hears these words of mine and acts on them will be like a wise man who built his house on the rock.
The rain fell, the rivers rose, the wind blew and pounded the house, yet it did not collapse because its foundation was on the rock.
But everyone who hears these words of mine that does not act on them will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand.
The rain fell, the river rose, the winds blew and pounded the house, and it collapsed.
It collapsed with a great crash.
Friends, the same trials and tribulations came to both homes.
The only difference was the foundation.
Friends, if you're going through a trial, if you're going through a tribulation, if you're going through a hard time, if you're financially depressed, if you're spiritually oppressed, and you're like, Lord, what is happening?
A lot of us, I know pastors, you know, pastor of a church, say, look up, look up, look up towards the Lord.
I urge you, friend, right now, look down at your feet and see where your foundation is.
See if you're standing on sand.
See if you're standing on anything that isn't the full word of God.
And I'll tell you right now, friend, it's quick and it's easy to say, God, change my foundation.
Change my foundation.
I don't want to stand on sand anymore.
He'll throw some rock in there.
He'll throw some water in there.
You'll have some concrete, friend.
I'll tell you right now, the Lord knows what he's doing.
He's a master architect.
And you can stand there and let the Lord change your foundation if you are open to him changing your heart.
You have to be open to him changing your heart.
Friends, I want to thank you guys for being on the broadcast.
You guys have been supporters.
We were just talking between broadcasts about how we've come through a great hurdle in this ministry.
You guys have stood faithful with us.
You guys have continued to give to this ministry.
It's been an honor, but you guys were here when we needed you the most.
I'll tell you, you know, I said a friend loves it all the time.
A brother's born for adversity.
You guys were friends to this ministry.
You were brothers to this ministry because we were going through adversity.
And I believe you were born for such a time as that because you helped us through those things.
How important is it that churches, not just congregational members in their church, but churches partner with each other?
Bishop, I want to start with you.
Well, behold how good and pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity.
Now, the word dwell there has an interesting meaning.
It not only means to live, it means to set up a homestead.
And in order to set up a homestead, you had to do several things.
You had to dig a well.
And in order to possess the land, if you understand what God taught his people in Deuteronomy, you had to sow a seed.
So behold how good and pleasant it is for brethren to sow seed together in unity.
And when you guys were going through that difficult time, we not only came on the program, we sowed into this program because we believe in what you're doing here.
Plowing Together 00:05:04
And churches have got to come together.
This is one of the things that Paul admonished the church at Philippi concerning, that they were sowing into his ministry.
We often talk about Paul making tents.
You know, it was a tent maker in one season of his life, but we never actually recognized that he was having to do that because he was being accused of wanting more money and all that kind of stuff.
So he refused to receive an offering in certain cities because of all of the accusations.
But there was one city named Philippi who said, no, no, no, we're not letting you sow into us spiritually without pouring into you financially.
And they sowed into him.
And he said, that offering is like a sweet-smelling savor rising up to heaven that you sowed into my spirit.
So we've got to take the shackles off of ministries who have proven themselves to be faithful.
And together, as local assemblies, let's sow into the same place, sow together, and there the Lord will command his blessing and life forevermore.
One thing that sowing does for us, it does a lot of things, but one main thing, just talking about in the context of what we're talking about today, one thing that the anointing does for us is that it brings your anointing and connects it to another anointing.
Yeah.
And in that is how believers come together.
It's an anointing issue.
You know, the Lord told me one time that the anointing is our identity in the spirit because that's the cloak of divinity on us.
That's the flow of God's life through us.
That's all that the anointing is.
And when I take a portion of what's mine, we call it seed, and plant it in a portion of what's yours, we call it soil.
There is an intermingling of the anointing that's on me and the anointing that's on you.
And that creates a whole new repertoire of what the anointing can do through us.
The harvest.
Have you noticed how the harvest always looks different from the soil and it always looks different from the seed?
That's right.
From the seed.
The seeds are holding drowned most of the time, you know?
That's right.
And there's a process, germination has to come and then it comes to fruition.
Mondo, we've seen many, many times, I mean, even in your own life, there was a sowing of the seed of the word of God from Pastor Jim Baker 27 years ago where he looked at you and said, I'm going to sow discipleship.
I'm going to sow into this man.
And now look at you.
I mean, you're here.
You have a wife.
You have twins.
And you're serving the Lord whenever the world said he won't ever do it.
I think about the time that a sower spends plowing the land that nobody sees.
And if you would have only seen what your friend Jim Baker had to plow through in order to get us to where you see us, you would not believe.
The sleepless nights, the times in prison, the times of rejection, the times of crying, the times of being lonely.
Yet he used that plowing in order to disciple what you see today.
So much goes into the seed, but we don't never talk about, or I guess we don't spend a lot of time talking about the worker in the field.
And that worker in the field is you.
That worker in the field is us.
We're plowing through the circumstances of the deception that comes through the ridicule through the media, through social media, through the rejection, through the acceptance, even plowing through your own doubts.
Can those guys make it?
Why is Pastor Jim not there?
Why is Pastor Lori not there?
We're missing them.
I know we, what about you guys?
Yet you don't understand that we have been plowing on the same land that your friends, Pastor Jim and Lori, have been plowing through.
You just didn't see us because we were behind them holding them up.
And the key to what you're saying, Ricky, is the 27 years that I've been alongside Pastor Jim has been seeing and watching in order to be where I am today.
I had to wait my turn.
Yet I saw how you gave.
I saw how you came in the moments that we needed the most.
Yet how we showed up was different than yours, but it was still a seed moment.
Amen.
And I want you to know something.
I say all that to say this, that the voice of the prophets network only exists not only because of one person, collectively, just like you mentioned, a body of Christ coming together for seasons, because when there was a season for Pastor Jim to rest, it was our season to step in.
That's right.
You know, I talked to an individual the other day at a Sunday, a couple of Sunday services ago, and they said, you know, I want to go out and do more.
Cling To The Lord 00:15:56
I just physically can't.
We're talking in the physical.
And then they said, well, spiritually, too, I want to do more, but I don't feel like I'm spiritually apt to that level.
And I said, friend, you don't have to be the person on stage praying.
You don't have to be the person on stage preaching the word of God.
What the people in our congregation do is give the minister, whoever it is that stands in that pulpit, the tools they need to be able to preach the message.
Because, friends, it's not for everyone to stand on a stage and talk.
And friends, sometimes I wish it wasn't for me.
Sometimes I wish I could just be a congressional member and get poured into every Sunday, Wednesday, Thursday night, Friday night, Saturday morning.
But you know what, friends?
We all play a vital role in the body of Christ.
And this is my thing: I had to learn my role early on.
I learned my role.
Hey, my role is to do a particular thing the Lord has told me to do, and I'll do it with everything that I can because I'm doing it for the Lord.
I'm not doing it for my wife.
I'm not doing it for my father.
I'm not doing it for the television network.
I'm doing it for the Lord.
Friends, I want you to do whatever it is God put on your heart with everything that you can do for the Lord.
Go serve in your local church.
Bishop, you brought up a great point.
The local church is going to be the stimulus for what a lot of people do, especially in these last days we're living in.
Go serve your local church.
Go ask your pastor.
Pastor, don't need anything.
Tell me how I can serve.
And friends, the pastor might hand you a broom.
Pastor might hand you a trash can.
And friends, we do everything we do to the Lord.
Mondo, you know, you see me with my shopping cart.
Sometimes I collect the trash around the building and see me push my shopping cart.
Because I don't want to carry the bags.
I'll be honest with you.
I'm willing to do the Lord's work.
If I'm going to find an easy way to do it.
Come on, praise God.
Always.
Always.
Yeah, so they say, find the, anyways, I was going to make a bad joke.
But I was pushing the shopping cart, putting all the trash, and I interacted with someone who lives in this building.
He said, what are you doing?
I said, I'm taking the trash out.
He says, why are you taking the trash out?
And I said, why wouldn't I take the trash out?
You know, I just kind of throw it out and I realized, oh, people perceive position with the opportunity to not do anything.
Friends, if you've been given position and you can't take the trash out in your church, you need to find a different position.
If you've been given power and position and influence in your church and you can't go sweep or take out the trash or clean the toilets, friends, I'm telling you right now, you need to reevaluate because the Lord came to do what?
To serve.
Friends, that is what we are called to do.
We're called to serve.
Go ask your pastor.
Go get in a local church.
Go ask your pastor, what can I do, pastor, to benefit the body?
You know, when I went to Christ for the Nations for my tensure there, I said, hey, I need a scholarship because dad said, hey, I'm not paying for your college.
I said, all right, I'm going to figure this out.
So I said, hey, I need a scholarship.
What can I do?
I'll literally do anything.
And they said, anything?
And I said, anything.
And they said, cool, we have a janitorial spot open.
And I said, hmm, okay.
I said I'd do anything.
I said, I do anything.
Mondo, I think I've told you this before.
I found so much joy in cleaning the bathrooms.
Yeah.
Be after services on weekdays and then after services on their Tuesday night encounters.
I found so much joy because I knew I could walk in and I knew I could impress people.
Not that they knew it was me doing it, but I was like, man, I've ever heard that these bathrooms have never been cleaner.
Why was I doing it?
Not because I enjoy cleaning toilets.
Man, I didn't.
And by the way, females' bathroom is far more disgusting than men's bathrooms.
Anyways, that's a side note.
I would let you know, I loved and I found a joy in it.
Why?
Because I realized I'm doing this for the Lord and the Lord would occupy my heart while I did it because I was serving from a place where I said, I'll do anything for you, God, even if it's this for the rest of my life.
Even if it's this for the rest of my life.
And then he allows the exaltion and the exalting to happen, not through a pride or an ego, friends, but through humility.
Cling to the Lord in humility.
I promise you, he'll give you the desires of your heart.
Your prodigal son, your prodigal daughter, the thing that you desire more than anything, he'll give it to you.
But you have to cling on to him.
Submit your will.
Be subservient to his will.
And friends, I promise you, you'll see what the Lord will do in your life through your life.
Doctor, you wrote a book called Release of the Anointing.
Powerful, powerful thing.
I want to ask you this question.
You know, some people think the anointing only comes from a pulpit, but tell us how the anointing flows through the pews.
Well, the outline that the Lord gave me in writing that book was it has three sections, and I had never heard it presented this way before.
I'm not claiming it's to be new, but I'm saying I haven't heard it before.
And in section one, the Lord started teaching me about the anointing to grow.
Now, the anointing to grow is primarily caught up in the teaching of the Spirit, how he leads and guides us.
But it also ties into Romans 12, talking about what we call the motivational gifts, the believer's gifts.
And in Romans 12, you have a list of gifts of the Father that all believers have.
And primarily what those cause us to do is they plant us in the local church and cause us to serve the vision of the pastor in that church.
Something powerful happens in serving.
Amen.
Something powerful happens in serving that I think the way I see it, I think serving prepares us for what God has for us.
Now, in a very real way, I'm not trying to imply that you're going to one day graduate from serving and serving is a lower form of ministry.
But what I'm talking about is that if your heart is to minister, your heart is to serve.
That's right.
There is no difference.
So the anointing to grow you ties in with the serving manifestations over here in Romans 12.
Then after that, there's an anointing to go, anointing to grow, first thing, anointing to go.
There in 1 Corinthians 12, talking about the nine manifestations of the spirit, the explosions of spirit life through us.
And then, of course, the last portion is talking about the anointing to gather and govern, talking about the ministry offices there in Ephesians 4, the apostle, prophet, evangelist, pastor, and teacher.
So I love this conversation we're having about serving and being planted in the local church because really that is where it begins and really ought to stay.
I want to say this that just to piggyback on what you're saying, because serving will bring into balance and alignment.
Yes.
I understood that this is a word I want to give you if you're a young leader or if you're someone that is wanting to be used in leadership under another leader.
And I understood my role that God called me to lead in my own ministry.
But if I was going to learn to serve under Pastor Jim's ministry, I needed to learn how to serve so I can be balanced and be in an alignment with the mission that God had given him.
Now you have to understand, I started missing God because I couldn't hear what Pastor Jim was hearing.
I couldn't see what he was seeing and it was frustrating me.
And God said, if you want to hear what he's hearing from me, and if you want to see what I'm showing him, then you have to learn to serve.
Yet in the body of Christ, I don't know what happened, Bishop, between the 90s and mid-2000s where the church lost the ability to learn how to serve.
Because in the late 90s, there was a passion to serve in ministry.
But I think the internet era changed the heart of serving.
To the point now that we even mock that mentality back then in the modern church.
There used to be a book, God's Armor Bearer.
I don't know if you remember that book that for many of us was like a treatise.
That was, we wanted to serve the anointing, serve the man or the woman of God in the house of God.
God so values service that he will take something that you need and put it out of your reach and require you to serve in order to get access to it.
Hallelujah.
Hold on.
Before you finish, this is what happened to me.
God showed me and then made me wait.
God showed me what I was going to become and allowed me to experience it, then took it away and say, in order to get that, you got to start here.
You got to learn to serve.
I saw people in this ministry come and go that say, oh, God called me to be a part of this ministry.
Oh, Pastor Jim got, until it was time to serve.
And I realized that in order to get where I needed to be because God had exposed it to me, I had to do what you just said.
Repeat that again.
God so values service that he'll take something that you need and put it out of your reach and require service for you to access it.
Because we've got this internet mentality now that we all have our own social media account and we can do everything by ourselves and on our own.
But God will make sure that he will deposit something you need in the life of a leader and require you to connect with that leader and serve that leader in order to get it because it necessitates the relationship.
And so God will hide his most precious gifts in his most marred vessels so that only the true servants qualify in order to get access to those gifts.
Wow.
Did you guys hear that?
Can I jump in real quick and think that I think many people mistake the double portion anointing as them getting in the prayer line and someone slapping oil on the forehead?
But when you look at Elijah and Elijah, that wasn't a slap oil on the forehead relationship.
It was a serving relationship.
It was an if relationship.
If you can.
If you can.
Then you will.
And it was through a span of time and relationship and discipleship.
And it wasn't just slap oil on the forehead.
And I think we've gotten into this mentality.
If I just get in the right line.
Come on.
And they slapped the right kind of oil on me.
Some of you got enough oil on you.
You look like a greenspill.
Oh, that's right.
That's exactly right.
You need to serve the anointing.
He said, if Elijah said, if you're with me when I go up.
If you can hang with me to the last possible moment.
To the last, not through the beginning.
Exactly right.
So he had to follow in through all the trials, all the difficulties, all the troubles.
And that qualified him for that.
And ladies and gentlemen, we're in a moment right now where the body of Christ is going through all kinds of trials, troubles, difficulties.
And now's the time to stand with ministries you believe in.
Because if you'll stand with ministries that you believe in, God will allow that anointing to come down into your life and destroy the yoke, remove the burden and cause your meal to never oil, never run dry, your meal never waste because you have an anointing that is not of your own.
It's been transferred to yourself.
Come on, that's right.
Come on.
I want to talk about that.
You guys both have ministries.
You have encountertoday.com as well as encountercharlotte.com.
Is that correct?
You and both of them?
Yeah.
So what is the ministry, your primary function of your ministry that you do in North Carolina?
I know you have a physical church.
You podcast.
I've seen you on every major television show, which is a tremendous blessing because this man preaches the full word of God.
I don't know why they let me in.
I have no idea.
I'll tell you why.
Because you preach the full word of God and people are hungry for a word.
So tell us about your ministry.
Tell us the primary function and really what like the mission.
Give me like a synopsis of your mission.
The heart of our ministry is to train and equip end-time believers for the next great awake.
And so everything we do is all about equipping believers because I believe that's the role of the five-fold ministry.
Even the primary function of the evangelist, this often gets mixed up.
Everybody says the evangelist's role is to win souls.
That's actually not their main goal.
Their main role, according to Ephesians chapter 5, is the perfecting of the saints for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body.
And that's the primary function for all of the five-fold ministry office gifts: to multiply themselves into others.
And so that's on my heart and my goal in all of our ministries to multiply what God's done in me and the lives of others.
And I feel sorry for all those connected with our ministry because I went through hell in order to get what I have.
And so sometimes I put people through that too in order to get it.
We need to equip end-time believers for the next great awakening.
And that's what we're all about.
Amen.
Your physical church is located in North Carolina.
Just right outside of Charlotte, North Carolina.
So if somebody wanted to visit your church, they could just go to.
Encountertoday.com, encountercharlotte.com.
Come see us.
We're starting a fire.
Amen.
Come on.
And then you're about to do something with Mario Murillo as well coming up in a few months.
How does someone get involved with that?
Because you guys are gotten some acreage.
You're clearing the land.
You're about to set up a.
This is wild.
So we're pushing every envelope now and clearing 36 acres in preparation for a 5,000-person tent in order to just win souls.
Win souls, win souls, win souls.
So you can go to encountertoday.com or you can go to mario morillo.org and sign up to volunteer.
Wow.
Be a part of the army that's making it happen.
It's going to be amazing.
Go serve.
Go serve.
Yeah.
I found that, you know, when you see that, you go and volunteer at something like that, you'll find yourself infilled with the Holy Spirit.
You're not just sitting there serving and not getting poured into.
The volunteers are getting, you know, they're getting filled up with the Holy Spirit as well.
Wow.
Well, that's that serving that we're talking about.
Come on.
That's how you draw and that's how impartations where they come from.
Amen.
Wow.
Amen.
You're based out of Tulsa, Oklahoma.
Yes, I am.
I'm allowing the Mecca.
I'm allowing for God to settle me here stateside.
As you know, I'm new to the country.
But I am, again, starting to see what's stirring here, how it did for me over there in Asia, where leadership is gathering around me and God's allowing me a voice with them.
I think primarily what the Lord has always tasked me with, and specifically here stateside, is that we have to raise the standard of the word and the spirit.
Amen.
And that means that we have to have spiritual believers who also have a scriptural experience.
Thank you.
And scriptural believers who have a spiritual experience.
You've got to have them both.
And God's always graced me with the voice of leadership.
And because I believe, like John Maxwell says, it always rises and falls on leadership.
And so I'm believing that there is a whole host of leaders rise up in the body of Christ, aligned with apostolic, prophetic, evangelists, pastoral, and teaching ministries that have that anointing flow through them that wood and spirit believers can be raised up.
Yeah.
Come on.
All around the world.
Come on.
Everybody said at Tulsa, Oklahoma.
Someone wants to get connected with you.
Just search for me on all forms of social media.
We're all there.
And we're starting to write books, as you all know.
And you all have been a big part of that, by the way.
You've always were.
Pastor Jim was one of the very first ones to pick up on that and had me back.
So I'm very thankful for you all.
But I believe in teaching about spiritual things and having spiritual experiences about things we've been taught.
So that's where the books come in.
And so I'm big on that.
I feel like God's graced me to do that.
There's a spiritual connection with Dr. Tan.
And I don't know if you heard the story, but when Pastor Jim was prophesying and very few people were accepting the prophetic word that came out of his experience from prison, yet he found himself in Malaysia in Singapore and he delivered a word to Singapore that was shocking, yet it happened a few weeks later.
If I remember right, that was the first place Pastor Jim went to speak anywhere outside of after they came out of prison.
And it was in Singapore.
It was downtown at the indoor stadium.
And I was a kid sitting up in the nosebleeds.
And I remember him coming out a little hesitant at first, but my Lord went that anointing to preach in him.
He just delivered a word that left everyone just kind of like on the edge of us.
You're like, what is he talking about?
What economic downturn?
What do you talk?
He was talking about all these kind of things.
And back then, when he came, there was no whiff of an economic anything in that region.
And I think it was within 12, 24, 36 months, it all came crashing down.
Wow.
And there were many who remember what he had taught.
Preparing for God's Purpose 00:07:41
And he wasn't just talking about doom and gloom.
He was talking about being prepared for what God has for you.
Amen.
There's a difference.
I think we need to make that clear that the judgment of God is not just to deliver doom and gloom, but the judgment of God is to prepare you so you make an intelligent choice.
That story, if you want to know more about that story, is in the book Prosperity in the Coming Apocalypse that Pastor Jim released years ago.
And I think it's still available through our website, JimBakershow.com.
And I think he did that shortly after the trip to Singapore.
That's basically what happened.
Absolutely.
But there's an anointing for the hour that we're in.
I say that story to tell you that the voice of the prophets network is our mission is to be a watchman on the wall to get the church prepared, not only spiritually, but also physically with items that most people will call silly.
Yet it is silly until you need food, until you need water.
And Ricky, you and I were face to face with hundreds of people.
Thousands, yeah.
And I want to tell you something.
We did not hear one person mock us or laugh at us.
Instead, one pastor said, if I would have known that there was food available, I would have been prepared.
I think that event happened in Makali, Florida, where he said, man, if I had just known that there was availability to be prepared, we could have been feeding our community right now.
Instead, we drove down there with a semi-truck full of food and we were able to feed the people.
We've done it in Houston.
We've done it in Mississippi.
We've done it through Bishop Ron Webb to California.
We've been able to do this, but it's been through your partnership, friend.
The only reason that we can continue to feed people, we give them clothes, we give them clean water, we give them the most important thing, and that's the gospel through all of this, it's because you sow into this ministry.
You allow us to partner with other churches, and we can then get the essential items that people need to them, friends.
But that comes through partnership.
That comes through you sowing into this ministry faithfully so that we can call pastors in California who are dealing with displaced people because of the fires.
And we can help them get food, water, clothes, and the gospel of Jesus Christ, the most important thing that we're going to give them.
All the way from the eastern seaboard to the western seaboard, our southern border.
And I don't know how far north we've gone.
We've gone into Illinois.
What I'm saying is, friends, we want to be there at every single crisis spreading the gospel.
Because, friends, a lot of the times people, when they're in their crisis, will listen to the gospel.
They'll hear the good news.
They'll give their life.
And friends, we want to make sure we're meeting them there with what they need.
Because, friends, the government will try their best.
I worked for the government for a long time.
They'll try their best, but friends, nobody can do it like the church.
That's it.
Nobody can do it like the church.
Nobody, friends.
Government, how you stand in the long line and get three or four beans.
I'll be honest with you.
That's really how they do it.
The church will come and fill you and feed you with what you need.
The good gospel of Jesus Christ, a good meal and friendship and community during your hard times.
Friends, you're called to be that.
You're called to be that church.
You're called to be the hospitals in the last days.
You're called to be the food banks in the last days.
You're called to be the clothing pantries in the last days.
And, friends, when the church steps up and we take ownership of who we are and take ownership of the authority we've been given through the blood of Jesus, friends, we'll see a much different church here in America.
Amen.
I want to ask you guys this question.
We are going into a 2025 season where a lot of Christians are, I'll be honest with you, I love you guys.
I love everyone who watches this, but some of us are becoming, and I caught myself and I stopped it.
We're becoming laxadaisical.
Or we say, well, the political aisle has turned the way that I wanted it to.
Country, as you know, seems to be going on the up and up.
I know there's some tariffs and we'll catch some costs for that, but long term, that'll be good for the country.
You know, I can kind of relax and kind of kick my feet up.
Is this a season where we can kick our feet up?
Bishop, I'll start with you.
I think we're confusing scriptural allegories when we think about the moment we're in in the sense that believers look at the election and say the walls of Jericho came down.
And that's actually not what happened.
The waters of Jordan parted, and that's all that happened.
The waters of Jordan parted so that the children of Israel could cross over and march around the city of Jericho.
So we have an open door right now in 2025 to cross over and possess the land.
So the question is, what will the church do with the opportunity that it's been given?
Will we occupy in 25 or will we sit back and pray God sends a recliner so that we can go a revival so that we can go back to our recliner?
And I think that's what most Christians want.
They want to be healed so they can just relax at home.
They want to be delivered so that they can just continue their lives as it were.
We are in the final countdown, the two-minute warning.
And nobody slows down at the two-minute warning.
This is the time to hustle.
This is the time to engage.
And this is the time to occupy until Jesus comes.
That's right.
We need global evangelism.
But even here, you're now in the United States.
You're settling here within the United States.
You've been married now a couple of years, which is a blessing.
How important is evangelism within the United States church?
And that's what I'm focusing on because that's where our primary.
You know, on a previous show, you would talk about how the Lord was sending missionaries back to the U.S.
I almost feel like I'm one of them.
I feel like you are.
You came, yeah, from Asian countries and came here.
I feel like I'm one of them in that sense because I think that there is a great ability and an anointing on America to export everything.
Yes.
And however and whatever the church in America deems as normal or as acceptable, it's not too long before the rest of the world kind of follows and goes along and says, that's how we should do it.
That's right.
With a standard.
And I don't know if the weight of that responsibility has been understood by the majority of the church.
That how we lift up Christ here, how we do church here, is but a pattern for many to follow.
And that's my heart with, that's my heart with the season we're in, that we raise up again spirit-friendly churches, that we raise up again word-standing churches and ministers, because that in itself is going to send reverberations all through the world.
Come on.
That's a good word, Bishop.
In the times that we're living in, especially Mona, we talk about current news.
We talk about headlines.
We talk about the news from a biblical perspective because it's important, friends.
We want to make sure: is this a headline?
Is that a catastrophic event happening because it's been prophesied in the Bible?
Or is it a natural event?
Because, friends, not everything that happens on the news, not every headline that comes is biblical prophecy.
We have to be able to discern that.
In the times we're living in, is it important to be able to continuously go back to a biblical lens on all things we look at?
News, social media, times we're living in.
Should we always go back to the Bible on everything?
Yeah, we've got too many Christians having out-of-Bible experiences, right?
The guy who wrote the book Summoning the Demon about aliens, and I can tell you it's not just out-of-body experiences, it's out-of-bible experiences.
And we see people trying to experiment.
We see a generation that's frustrated with legalism, and as a result of trying to depart from legalism, they're going to an extreme, separating themselves from the foundation of the word of God.
And I think what we're about to see is another kind of word of faith renewal in the sense that people who are hungry, when you get the spirit, something happens, your appetite changes, and now you want the word, right?
And when you really get the word, you want to see the manifestation of the spirit.
And I think we swung the pendulum to one side where we're having these encounters and experiences with the Lord.
And now those who have had those encounters are just going to have an insatiable hunger for the word.
Conviction and the Harvest 00:03:45
The question is, what are they going to get when they go back to church?
I remember 9-11.
You remember the churches were filled to capacity the Sunday, the day after 9-11.
But the question was, what were people getting when they went back?
And so we've got to prepare ourselves now.
And I want to encourage all church leadership, pastors, church leaders, now's the time to prepare yourself to strengthen those nets so that you can receive the harvest that's about to come in because it's coming in faster.
I think this year we're going to see a mighty move of the harvest of God.
You said it earlier: people are hungry.
Yet, what are we doing as preachers to give that food?
I remember I was invited to do a funeral for a family, and there was probably about 300 people there that I can almost guarantee 90% of that room did not go to church.
And I didn't know the person, but I knew the family, and the family asked me to do the funeral.
And there was a conviction in my heart several days before doing the funeral.
And the Lord, the Spirit of the Lord, said, Do not by any means change the gospel for anybody.
Give them my son.
They need to know my son.
They need to hear my son.
Now, you have to understand, as preachers, we put on this facage because we want to look good and present good and do our job as clergymen.
But there was something inside of me that said that could be someone's last moments.
And I want to tell you something, as I did the funeral, I probably gave the greatest invitation I've ever given to come to Christ in that service.
And all those people came to the front.
I've never, I didn't ask him to come to the front, but a lot of these people were like, we've never heard the gospel presented to us in a funeral service like this.
And I believe that the harvest is ready for us to preach the full gospel, untainted gospel.
And just like Anne Graham Lott said, just give me Jesus.
We don't need all this theatrics and lingos.
And all I know is the gospel.
And if the gospel works for a next gang member that came out of East LA, California, then the gospel's got to work wherever we bring the gospel because it's called the good news.
And good news, gentlemen, changes the atmosphere when you walk in knowing.
Listen to me.
The anointing will back up the word.
Yes.
Amen.
That's all I've heard all my life since I've been a Christian.
The anointing will back up the word.
And the word will back up the anointing of the gospel of Jesus Christ.
It's time for us preachers to preach the gospel, whether they stay or leave.
The conviction of the Holy Spirit.
Listen, this is why we do this.
Whether you give or not, it makes no difference.
We're going to continue to preach.
We're going to continue to show up.
Yet God is talking to you right now, wherever you are, knowing that no matter what happens around the world, what did you just say?
There's something about the anointing that moves that people are doing funny business outside of the gospel.
And they're calling it gospel.
Starving on Chicken Nuggets 00:14:36
You know, there was a teenage girl, her name was Stacey Irving.
I believe she was in Georgia.
She was rushed to the hospital for what doctors thought was starvation.
This is in the United States of America.
She was starving to death, and they're trying to figure this out because she's slightly overweight.
She lives in America and she eats three meals a day.
And how is she starving?
They did a little more investigation.
It turns out that for years, she eats every day McDonald's chicken nuggets and fries.
And that's all she eats.
So she had been eating, but she wasn't eating anything nutritious.
And so that describes the church that has been going on and on and on and on.
We're eating, but we haven't been eating anything that's actually good for us.
And I think people are getting hungry now.
There's a remnant within a remnant that's rising up and saying, I'm tired of the candy.
I'm tired of the Mickey D's.
I want steak.
I want broccoli.
I want kale.
Even if I don't like it, I know I need it.
Come on.
Because we're going to get healthy again for one final assault.
Come on.
God is marshaling his forces for one final assault of kingdom advancement in this earth.
Amen.
One final assault.
You believe that we are entering a time where the Christians will have to once again put on their full armor of God and prepare for spiritual war.
Yeah, it's time, and it's going to have to be intentional.
That's right.
It's not going to happen accidentally.
You're going to have to intentionally put on the armor of God and you're going to have to help others put the armor on.
You know, by helping this ministry and sowing into this ministry, you're helping us get righteousness, the breastplate of righteousness onto people, the helmet of salvation.
You're helping us get that out there through your support, through your partnership, even by being here today.
So thank you for helping us equip the body of Jesus Christ with the armor and the munitions they need to advance the gospel in these end times.
Amen.
You know, in Ephesians 6, we talk about the full armor of God.
And, you know, sadly, we turned it into like a cutesy Bible story that we'd read to kids and say, hey, put on your armor, kids.
You know, go to sleep.
Go to sleep.
Don't wake up.
If you wake up in the morning, stay in your room.
You know, we've turned it into a Bible story.
But friends, it's the reality of where we're living today.
Open this up.
Ephesians chapter 6, it says, finally be strengthened by the Lord and his vast strength.
Put on the full armor of God so you can stand against the schemes of the devil.
Again, friends, the devil will meet you at your ignorance.
We have to be able to stand against his schemes.
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers of this darkness, against evil spiritual forces in the heaven.
For this reason, take up the full armor of God so that you may be able to resist in the evil day.
And having prepared everything to take your stand, there's preparation, that word that not a lot of church wants to talk about.
You prepare.
Stand therefore with the belt, with the truth like a belt around your waist, righteousness like armor on your chest and your feet scaled with the readiness for the gospel of peace.
In every situation, take up the shield of faith with which you can extinguish all flaming arrows of the evil one.
Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the spirit, which is the word of God.
Pray at all times in the spirit with every prayer and request and stay alert with all perseverance and intercession for all the saints.
You know, during my time in the military, I was in an infantry unit, an airborne infantry unit, and I loved it.
When we go out, anytime we train, any mission, anything, we do these things called PCCs and PCIs, pre-combat checks and pre-combat inspections.
So I would look at my body armor.
I'd pull my body armor out.
I'd say, are there cracks in my body armor?
Are there things was I careless and threw it on the ground and it hit the concrete and it cracked because it could be life or death for me.
I would check.
I would do my pre-combat check.
Do I have 30 rounds of ammunition in every single magazine that I have?
Are they full to capacity?
Is my weapon clean?
Do I have a firing pin in my weapon?
I do my pre-combat checks.
And then there was this thing called pre-combat inspections, where someone else of higher rank would walk up to you and they'd do everything you just did again.
Now, friends, what that is called in the body of Christ is accountability.
We need accountability where I may be having a bad day and say, you know what?
I'm just going to tell him I checked my body armor.
I'm just going to assume my magazines were loaded correctly.
But friends, then somebody comes up and it's the Holy Spirit doing that inspection.
You might check, but the Holy Spirit's inspecting.
Allow him to come into your life and inspect to make sure your armor isn't cracked, to make sure your sword is ready to be swung with all holiness and righteousness, to make sure that your belt is going to hold up your pants when you're trying to run, to make sure your feet actually are ready to spread peace.
Friends, we need to make sure that we are doing spiritual checks and spiritual inspections daily.
Because friends, this doesn't, we'll do it once a quarter, once a month.
Friends, this was a daily action that took place.
If we were going to go somewhere and do something, and friends, I'll let you know right now, you're going somewhere and you're doing something.
The God that created everything, far before everything existed, he was.
And far after everything will cease to exist, which is ironic because eternity lasts forever, he'll still be there.
Friends, he is the God that is the alpha and the omega, the beginning and the end.
Friends, he cares for you enough to inspect you.
He cares for you enough to cleanse you.
He cares for you enough to ensure that you're good soil.
You know, we're talking about this ministry being good soil, and I believe that.
I believe this ministry is good soil because we are pursuing righteousness.
Doesn't mean we're perfect.
We're pursuing holiness.
Again, not perfect.
We're pursuing what God wants.
And friends, there may be bumps in the road, but we're going to continue to get up and we're going to continue to endure till the end so we can gain our lives.
But friends, you're good soil.
The enemy has tried to convince you for so many years.
I'm talking to someone watching right now.
The devil has tried to convince you you're not good soil, so you won't allow people to pour into you.
You won't allow the pastor's words to penetrate your heart.
You won't allow those around you to undergird you and help you, to lift your arms like Aaron and Hur did to Moses.
You won't allow someone to help you because you don't think you're good enough.
Friends, you're not, and I'm not, and Mondo's not, and no one here is not.
The blood of Jesus has made us good enough.
The blood of Jesus has made us righteous and holy.
Friends, do not accept the identity of the devil.
You know, there's two really primary reasons that the devil, there's too many primary ways that the devil gets us to sin.
And I stand on this, and I've preached this many times from I was a young man to now preach it today still.
Two primary ways.
One, he tries to convince you you're not loved.
That's what he's done.
We've seen it.
He do it to an entire generation.
And two, he tries to confuse your identity.
If he can convince you you're not loved, or he can convince you of, you know, he can convince you of your identity not being rooted in Christ Jesus.
He can do anything he wants to you.
Friends, know you're loved by the God, the infinite God who created everything, who sent his son, who lived a perfect life, fulfilled every single prophecy they said he would.
And he hung on a cross, bearing all shame, bearing all everything, everything we deal with.
Pride, ego, anger, he took it all on himself.
All sin laid on his shoulders, and he died on a cross for you, friend.
Know that he loves you.
And through that love, we are now identified with him.
We've been crucified with Christ.
We've been resurrected with Christ.
And friends, it doesn't stop there.
We get to sit in heavenly places with Christ.
Know your identity.
So when the devil comes to you, you say, I know who I am.
I'm a son of the living God, the one true way to heaven.
I'm a seed of Abraham, joint heirs to the throne.
Tell him who you are, not from your own pompous perspective of worldly things.
Tell him who you are through a biblical lens.
Say, devil, do you not remember what this book says?
Do you not know?
Because how did Jesus defeat the devil in his fasting period out in the desert?
He could have done anything, could have snapped his finger, devil ceased to exist.
He could have done anything.
He could have had a legion of angels come down, strike the devil.
He could have done anything he wanted to.
He beat him over and over and over using this right here.
He used the word.
Isn't it written?
Isn't it written?
And I encourage you, friend, know the word of God.
Friends, if you want to have a relationship with the Holy Spirit, read the word of God.
And friends, if you want to know the word of God, have a relationship with the Holy Spirit.
They go hand in hand.
Because friends, the only way to truly rightfully divide the word of truth is to have that relationship with the Holy Spirit.
Call that number.
It's 1-888-988-1588.
Give your life to Jesus today.
If you haven't, if you were saying, you know what, I'm kind of identifying with the prodigal son.
I'm looking around right now.
It's kind of looking like a pig pen.
Friend, I've been there.
I've been there a couple times.
I've been there a couple times.
I can't lie, but you know what?
The minute you start walking home, the Father sees you and he runs to you.
And he's ready to put a robe on your back, to put a ring on your finger, to kill the fatted calf for you.
And all of heaven rejoices whenever you say, I'm going to come back into the fullness of what Jesus Christ has for me.
It'll be the most important decision you ever make.
Hell is very real.
Friends, we're not hellfire brimstone, but it's real.
It exists.
It was created for the devil and his angels.
But humans can send ourselves there through actions and rejection of Jesus Christ.
Friends, we'd never want to see one person go there.
We never want to see one soul sent there.
But that only comes through you, like you said, faith.
That comes through faith in Jesus Christ.
And friends, the Lord will give you that faith.
You need to just accept him today.
Call that number.
If you want to do the Jim Baker show forward slash, I think it's a prayer request.
You can do prayer requests as well.
We want to pray with you.
We have this thing called a wall of agreement in our chapel.
You'll send a prayer request.
You'll send a picture of your family.
We'll put it on that wall of agreement.
Our intercessors, our prayer team here, our 24-hour prayer chapel, we will pray with you because we believe what we bind here on earth has been bound in heaven.
What will be loosed here on earth has already been loosed in heaven.
Friends, all we're doing is saying, God, you're faithful.
You're honest.
You're just.
You're pure.
We're holding you to the promise.
And friends, he is faithful, pure, just, righteous, holy.
There's not enough words, verbs, adjectives, nouns.
There's not enough things I can say to say how good God is.
And that good God loves you and he cares about you.
And he wants to call you son and he wants to call you daughter.
And friends, you just have to say yes.
Accept the good gift that he's given to you.
Call that number again.
It's 1-888-988-1588.
Just know this, friend.
You are good ground.
You are good soil.
No matter what the enemy has said about you, no matter what your family has said about you, no matter what your spouse has said about you, the only thing that should matter is what has Jesus said about you?
What does the blood say about you?
Friend, you are worthy, not because of anything you've done, but because of the blood of the worthy one that was shed on Calvary.
It's the most important thing.
I really, really wish that churches got back to preaching the blood again.
You know, I realize we shied away and I realize why we shied away, especially it's my generation.
I'm 27 years old.
My generation, we get in this weird mojo of like, oh, don't talk about blood.
People think it's a cult or people who think it's this.
Friends, you're going to tell me not to talk about the most precious substance that's ever existed?
The most amazing thing that could have happened to Gentiles?
The fact that we can be grafted into the blood of Jesus Christ.
I'll never stop talking about it.
On Wednesday night, we sing hymns.
You'll see it.
You're going to preach on Wednesday night here.
Come on.
We sing hymns.
We're going to be singing about the blood.
You know why?
Because the blood is still red.
It's still hot.
It's still running.
And it's still good to cover every single sin, every single iniquity, every single downfall, friend.
Get back up.
Get back up today.
Don't stay down, friends.
There's a race to be run.
And those who endure till the end will gain their lives.
Those who endure till the end shall be saved, friends.
Keep enduring.
It's going to be hard.
Keep enduring.
It's going to be tough.
Keep enduring.
You're going to have trials and tribulations.
Keep enduring.
Friends, sometimes you got to walk by faith.
Sometimes you're like, man, I don't have any muscles left.
It's all right there by faith.
Keep moving.
Keep moving forward.
Friends, if you're down, crawl forward.
I don't care what you got to do.
Keep progressing towards that finish line.
God will meet you where you are.
He'll pick you up.
He'll clean you up and he'll call you son and daughter.
heir to the throne, friends.
We love you.
Call that number today.
And we have a few minutes left.
I want to ask you, Dr. James Tan, if somebody's watching today and they're saying, I've ridden the fence.
I've never given my life to Jesus, but I'm not opposed to Jesus.
You know, he's a good figure.
He's a good, you know, good example, but I don't know if I want to call him Lord and Savior.
What would you say to that person?
Listen, this is the day of salvation.
And I believe that this conversation towards the end of this show, especially, has by the Spirit of God pierced hearts and invited lives into what we call the abundant life, which is the life in Christ.
And right where you are, I want to encourage you, this invitation that Pastor Ricky just gave, it's for you.
Don't be looking around to the left and to the right.
Is it for me?
Is it for them?
No, no, no.
The Spirit of God, through the voice of Pastor Ricky Baker, was talking to you.
Today is the day of salvation.
Call the number on your screen now because God has life waiting for you.
Amen.
God has life waiting for you.
Friends, I want to thank you for being on the broadcast with us today.
You have Dr. James Tan here.
What an amazing man of God, based out of Tulsa, Oklahoma, and Bishop Alan DeDio, based out of North Carolina, just right outside of North Carolina.
Friends, go to their websites.
You can find Dr. James Tan pretty much on every social media platform and encountertoday.com as well as encountercharlotte.com.
YouTube.
YouTube as well.
Yeah, you guys have a powerful YouTube platform as well.
Friends, go watch what they're doing.
They're putting out amazing content and they're putting out things that are relevant for today.
It's not just, I'm telling you right now, I've never watched this where I'm like, oh, that was just another fluff show.
Another show where they're trying to fill time.
They're trying to fill 58 minutes and 30 seconds.
Friends, every time I watch it, I'm like, oh man, I got to re-watch it because I got to make sure I get everything out of this.
It's like, I'm going to come on the show and make it sound like I'll give you credit the first time I use your stuff.
That's fine.
The second time, I'm like, I don't know where I heard that from, but maybe the Lord gave it to me.
And I'm just kidding myself.
You know, we love being able to pull from other ministers, friends.
We want to continue to broadcast the gospel of Jesus Christ, the most important message that has ever existed, friends.
We want to broadcast it here.
We want to stay here until the end.
We want to be right in the face preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ when he comes ripping through those clouds in all of his glory to come get his blameless and his spotless bride, friend, which is you and I, through the blood of Jesus Christ.
Continue to stand with us.
Continue to support this ministry.
Continue to undergird us as we preach the gospel and bring guests, prophets, pastors, teachers that will teach you the word of God.
Friends, I want you to remember this.
God loves you.
Don't let anybody tell you otherwise.
He really does.
Bye, Variver today.
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