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Dec. 5, 2024 - Jim Bakker Show
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The Jim Bakker Show with Dave Robbins, Vince Stegall, and Doug Norvell
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Hello From Morningside 00:02:19
Hello and welcome to the Jim Baker Family Show, coming to you from the village of Morningside, USA, nestled in the beautiful Ozark Mountains.
Today, our special guests are the editor of End Time Magazine, host of End of the Age and End Time Prophecy Teacher, Reverend Dave Robbins, the president, CEO, and chairman of End Time Ministries, Vince Stego, a pastor, writer, and co-host of the End Time Show, Doug Norvo.
Our co-host today is Reverend Mondo Delevega.
And now, here's your host, Pastor Ricky Baker.
Hello, friends.
This is a new set.
You're probably trying to figure out where are we?
Well, friends, we're in Dallas, Texas right now at the End Time Ministry Studio set.
I'm here with Reverend Dave Robinson.
Yes, sir.
I want to see you.
How are you doing?
Thank you for being here.
We were doing some traveling and we said we need a studio to film in a Jim Baker show episode.
We called the guys up here and they were, you know, gracious enough to say, hey, come film in our studio.
We have the Dallas skyline behind us here.
But this screen right here, you guys have it be multiple different things, don't you?
Yeah.
No, I can put us in Israel today and South Africa tomorrow and be back here in Dallas the next day.
Come on.
So we can do anything.
We shoot all our DVDs here and everything.
It's very, very versatile screens.
Really helped us out.
The Lord blessed us with it.
We should have done that, Mondo.
We should have went to Guatemala for you, brother.
I know you're over there at the studio.
Mondo's in our home studio.
You have the studio audience there with you as well.
But Mondo, how are you doing over there in Blue Eye, Missouri?
Listen, I am surrounded by beautiful people here in the audience.
You guys are missing the audience.
Reverend Dave, it is so good to see you.
Hey, we want to thank everyone who's there, our studio audience, people who are watching online, watching via satellite as well.
Thank you for tuning in.
This is an episode of the Jim Baker Family Show.
We're filming here from the End Time Studios.
And Reverend Dave, I know we're going to be getting into this, but I want to ask you right away, we just had a presidential election, which some people are calling a landslide in the right direction.
What was your impression of the presidential election?
Eagle vs. Beast 00:07:48
Well, from a biblical prophetic perspective, because this is what we specialize in, I thought it was awesome because obviously domestically, I'm happy that President Trump was elected because he's very pro-America.
And the previous administration was willing to yield much of our sovereignty up to a world governing body.
Didn't like that because I know that the end time world government is Satan's effort to establish his kingdom here on the earth.
The Bible says in Revelation 13 that the dragon gives this entity its seat, power, and great authority.
The dragon there is Satan.
So it didn't like that.
Well, I know Donald Trump coming in, seeing what he did with his first four years, knowing that he's anti-globalism, pro-America, was very happy about the election.
So from a biblical perspective, it's awesome, in my opinion.
Amen.
What is God's given destiny for America?
We have a lot of men and women who say, well, you know, America isn't mentioned anywhere in the Bible towards the end times.
But what would you say to that?
Yeah, I believe America is absolutely mentioned in the Bible.
I'm kind of on the opposite end of that spectrum.
Back in Daniel chapter 7, Daniel saw four beasts.
He saw a lion with eagle's wings, a bear, a four-headed leopard, and a tin-horned beast.
Later on down in the chapter in Daniel 7, verses 17 and 23, he said these beasts symbolize nations, modern-day kingdoms or nations that would be on the earth at the time when the ancient of days or Jesus Christ would come back to establish his kingdom here on the earth.
That happens at the time of the rapture and the second coming of Jesus Christ.
So it's just ahead of us now.
So these nations, these nations symbolized by these animals would be here when that happens.
Well, I know, just to, you know, can condense it down here, that the animal symbols, the most prevalent nations today with those animal symbols is the lion is the modern-day nation of Great Britain.
Yes.
And then the bear is Russia, the Russian bear.
You can go look in Google News.
There's hundreds of articles on that.
The ten-horned beast is the current European Union, the reborn Holy Roman Empire.
The four-headed leopard is Germany.
But the Bible says that in Daniel 7:4, that remember these beasts symbolize nations.
He said that I saw the eagle's wings that were on the back of the lion.
Daniel said, I beheld to those eagle's wings were plucked out.
This nation was plucked out of the lion and made stand upon a feet as a man, and a man's heart was given to it.
So the modern-day nation with the symbol of an eagle that was plucked from Great Britain in 1776 was the United States of America.
Well, 650 years later, John is exiled out on the Isle of Patmos.
God's giving these visions, and when he gets to Revelation chapter 13, which is a parenthetical chapter in Revelation, he says, Daniel saw four beasts.
John said, I saw a single beast come up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns.
The seven heads represented the nations that were in the book of Daniel.
The four for the head of the leopard, one for the ten-horned beast, one for the bear, and one for Great Britain, the lion.
And that is a federalization of nations that will create a world governing body.
The Bible says that all the world will wonder after this beast.
So that's what lets us know there's going to be a world government created.
But the eagle's wings, the United States of America, is not mentioned as being part of that world governing body in the end time.
Jump back one chapter to Revelation chapter 12.
There's a war in heaven.
Satan is defeated in Satan, his angels are defeated by Michael and his archangels.
Satan is bound to the earth.
The Bible says, Woe, rejoice you that are in heaven, but woe to the inhabitants of the earth because Satan comes down unto you having great wrath.
The wrath is the great tribulation.
That's Satan's wrath.
And the Bible says he persecutes the woman, which the woman with 12 stars around her head in that chapter is Israel, and those that have the testimony of Jesus Christ, which is the church.
So he's going to persecute them.
But in Revelation 12, 14, this is the salient issue here, the salient scripture.
Right here, it says that the woman is carried away on the wings of a great eagle, where she is nursed in her place for time, times, and half a time.
So it's a prophecy of Israel being protected by the United States.
Once you hit end time Bible prophecy, the eagle is America.
Israel is going to be protected by the eagle's wings, America, all the way through the end time.
And now that's a 2,000-year-old prophecy, Ricky.
But yet we can see the eagle, the United States of America, protecting Israel.
We're our greatest ally.
And that's one of the United States God-given destiny: we will pull out a world government, stand with Israel, and protect her against a world government all the way through the end time.
And we're watching that happen with our current administration.
Yes.
Because Donald Trump is anti-globalism, anti-world government, and he's the most pro-Israeli president we've ever had.
And you can see that in some of the cabinet pics that he's gathering people around him that are anti-globalism and very, very pro-Israel.
That's the United States God-given destiny for that's our future.
Amen.
You know, a large question, especially in the American church, we seem to be centralized on our own place here in the world, especially with biblical prophecy.
But a lot of people say, hey, the United States, due to it being, you know, the superpower of the world, is going to play a part in the Antichrist system.
What would you say to that?
Yeah, so I don't believe that, I honestly don't believe that the mark of the beast will be fully implemented here in the United States because the Bible says that we're going to protect Israel from the face of the serpent.
So in Daniel chapter 12, there is a red dragon.
Early on in the chapter, there's a red dragon with seven heads.
And when you get to Revelation 13, it talks about the world government that has seven heads and 10 horns.
So what is that?
Well, that's a world government, and it is made in the image of its creator, which is Satan himself.
It's Satan's effort to establish his physical kingdom here on the earth, the world governing body.
The Bible tells us that very clear.
So the United States, again, I just went through that right down here in Revelation 12, 14.
The United States will not be fully engaged with the world governing body in the end time.
We're going to stand against that and protect Israel throughout the end time.
And that's why I believe that the mark of the beast will not be fully implemented here in the United States of America.
It will most of the nations of the world, but not here in the United States of America.
Amen.
Well, hey, I just let you know that makes me more so proud to be an American.
Mondo, you know, you are a wonderful citizen of the United States of America.
You came here as a young man from Guatemala.
I mean, what does that mean to you to know that, you know, there could be a last stand in America, could be that last stand to say, hey, we're fighting against the mark of the beast.
You know, I have always believed that America is the greatest nation that God had ever given to the world.
Yet on our worst day, America is still the greatest nation.
And I believe it's been favored by God for the times that we are getting ready to go into because things are changing.
Economics is changing and the way we exchange our money is changing, especially when you see how nations are trying to devalue the American dollar.
Central Bank Digital Currencies 00:14:48
You have to understand where does that fall into Bible prophecy.
And I love the fact, Ricky, that you're talking to Reverend Dave because the knowledge that you have, Reverend, is so important to what we're discussing today.
Because a few days ago, you posted an article on social media that said that to expect, listen to this number, a 2,430% surge in central bank digital currencies.
Will you talk more about that?
Because a lot of people don't understand what these banks are doing.
Is America involved in this banking transitions that is happening?
I don't think the world itself is ready to understand how banks even work when it comes to the currencies that they're trying to implement.
Yeah.
So let me, I'll explain the Federal Reserve and then we'll talk about, because it's our central bank.
Then we'll talk about the central bank digital currencies and this 2,400% increase.
The Federal Reserve is a cartel of private bankers.
It has nothing to do with the government.
I know they like to try to mesh it all together for the population and the media, but it has nothing to do.
It's a cabal of private bankers.
And that, along with the central banks around the world and the hub of that, which is the Bank for International Settlements, that's how they control the economies of the world.
It's called the global establishment, elitist, globalist, whatever you want to call them.
They've been doing it for hundreds of years now.
And they created the central bank back in 1913 when what was called the Federal Reserve Act was passed.
A cabal of private bankers had some senators bought and paid for, and they got the Federal Reserve Act passed 1913.
Senator Nelson Aldrich and some of those guys were involved in all of that.
And what the Federal Reserve Act did was it took the, the Constitution gives our Congress the ability to control the economy of America, to set how much money's in circulation, how much our money's worth, the interest rates and everything.
Constitution gives our Congress the ability to do that.
The Federal Reserve Act took that away from Congress and gave it to this cabal of private bankers called the Federal Reserve.
So they've been controlling the economy of America for, you know, what now, close to what, 80 years or so?
Well, when, and they, so they have, they have control the dollar.
The dollar bill has a Federal Reserve note on it.
It doesn't say United States notes.
It says the Federal Reserve note.
That's right.
And so what happens is, is that just recently, over the last few years, Elon Musk came out.
We've had this cryptocurrency craze that started now.
Well, Elon Musk, a couple years ago, said, I'm getting ready to take cryptocurrency, Bitcoin and different things for payment for Teslas.
And there were many major retailers that were getting ready to start taking cryptocurrency.
Well, I know that the Federal Reserve is not going to allow parallel currencies in America.
It's not going to happen.
And so I told a friend of mine, his brother sells cryptocurrencies.
He was trying to get me to buy some.
And I said, Brian, they're going to attack that.
The Federal Reserve is going to attack that with everything they're worth.
And sure enough, a couple, two or three months later, Joe Biden came out with the executive order that said, because so many people have been taken advantage of with cryptocurrencies, that we're going to look into putting out our central bank.
He said, our central bank, we're going to look into putting out what's called a central bank digital currency.
That way it's quote unquote government protected.
The problem is that's a total false narrative.
A central bank digital currency would allow the central bank to continue to control the economies of America because they do not want to allow a parallel commerce system.
And so the problem is that they're trying, these central bank digital currencies are programmable.
They could say what you can spend your money on, how long you can keep your money in your bank account.
If they don't want you to buy a gas stove, they would just say, nope, that's an invalid purchase.
We would move off of a cash system and move on to a totally digital system, which would allow them to control us in every way.
So many countries around the world have already moved in the direction of setting up a central bank digital currency, and people are already starting to use them.
Well, what this article, there's many articles on it posting, they're saying by from the amount of central bank digital currency purchases now to 2031, that there would be over a 2,400% increase in those central bank digital currency purchases.
People moving off of the dollar bill, the shekel, the yen, all physical currencies and moving to a totally digital platform.
And we see it happening around the world, very prophetic because the Bible says there's going to be a global economic sanctioning system set up in the end time to force people into compliance with the Antichrist and his world governing system.
From the way I'm sitting here looking at this stuff every day, the central bank digital currency is the number one thing I can see pointing us in that direction.
And certainly apocalyptic, prophetic.
And that's what the article is referring to: this huge increase in central bank digital currency purchases.
Will the president-elect push for a digital currency?
Yeah, no.
So during his campaign this year, and me and Ricky were down there and heard him speak in Concord, North Carolina, President Trump has said, and he understands a lot about globalism and what's happening in the United States.
He understands about the Fed.
I believe he does.
He said, in America, as long as I'm president, if I'm elected, he was saying during the campaign, we will not have a central bank digital currency.
And when I heard that, there's many ways that there's many things that made me the decision really easy who to vote for.
But when I heard that, I thought he gets it.
He understands the Federal Reserve and what they're trying to do.
And many states have actually come out and said, we're going to pass laws that we will not accept central bank digital currencies, our retailers, as a means of commerce here in our state.
Wow.
And so I believe that with Donald Trump in, he's going to do everything he can to keep us from getting a central bank digital currency.
On the flip side of that, everybody has to realize that should a Harris Walls administration been elected, man, they would be pushing for this just with all their, like a big bulldozer.
And so certainly there's a million reasons why I'm glad that Donald Trump got re-elected and there was this huge red wave across America.
Even thou the House, the Senate, I mean, everything, certainly I believe it's a God thing keeping his hands on America.
Amen.
Now that we have seen, you know, President Trump being elected for the second time, do you think we'll see a increase for the support of the nation of Israel?
No, absolutely.
So President Trump, even during his first election, when he was fighting COVID and everything that was happening, he was still the most pro-Israel president Israeli president by far that we've ever had.
He moved the embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.
He said he was going to do it.
He did it.
He recognized Jerusalem as Israel's eternal capital, which is humongous because the international community sees the Jews, the settlers, their occupation in East Jerusalem and the West Bank as they see that as illegal, a flagrant violation of international law.
UN Security Council resolution 2334.
Donald Trump said, I don't care what you say, international community, or what international law says, Jerusalem is Israel's eternal capital, period.
And so with Donald Trump coming in, now he's had four years.
His administration is lifting off.
He's already got a lot of things done.
It's already moving forward.
And he's not even going to get inaugurated for another two months.
And very pro-Israel.
And he's coming in with knowledge as well this time.
The first time he came in, really having to trust his advisors on what to do on a lot of issues, even Israel.
You know, he was trusting a lot of advisors.
But now I believe he comes in with an increased amount of knowledge.
And he's leaning on some people like Governor Mike Huckabee, which I don't know.
I want to ask you, this isn't in our questions we did.
But what do you think about his pick for Governor Mike Huckabee as our, you know, our delegate to Israel?
Yeah, so probably one of the best guys he could have picked on the planet.
Amen.
Mike Huckabee understands not only the geopolitical situation there, but he understands the biblical aspects of it, which is very, it's actually more important than any geopolitical situation.
He understands the history of Israel, how they became a nation, and the borders of Israel, which God told Abram back in Genesis 15, 18, I'm going to give you this land from the river in Egypt all the way up to the great river, the river Euphrates, all the way up in Syria.
So Israel only inhabits a very small sliver of that.
Mike Huckabee recognizes that the international community is trying to take portions of that.
And he's saying, we're never going to give one inch of land.
We're not negotiating promised land for peace.
So he gets it.
And he actually has said in the past that I don't believe that there's any such thing as a Palestinian.
Wow.
Now, there was the original British mandate that had Palestine, and there are Arabs that live there, but there's no, they say, well, we're Palestinians and, you know, our lineage goes all the way back to Ishmael, which was the firstborn son of Abraham.
But in Genesis 17, Abram said, hey, the Lord said, I'm giving you this covenant.
It's going to be an everlasting covenant.
And Abraham goes, have you considered my, he said, you're going to have a promised son.
They haven't had Isaac yet.
And you're going to have it through Sarah.
And Abraham said, oh, yeah, right.
Have you considered Ishmael?
He's the firstborn.
And the Lord said, I have said, I do know Ishmael, and I'm going to, 12 princes will come at him.
I'm going to bless him and make him a great nation.
But he said, this promise is unto the son that you will have with Sarah, and that's going to be the promised son.
And then through that lineage, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and Jacob's name was changed to Israel.
And that's the birth of the nation.
So God was very specific.
It's not going to be with the Ishmael's lineage.
It's going to be with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
So Mike Huckabee is coming into this saying, okay, I know the geopolitical situation, but I also know the biblical ramifications, all of this, and we will not trade one inch of land for peace.
And this is part, I'm writing President Trump a letter, and I'm going to go over some of this with him in great detail because Mike shows me by him picking Mike Huckabee that and many of the others that he's picking, Elise Stefanik, who's going to go be our ambassador to the United Nations.
Everybody he's picking, the majority of them, he's coming into this with eyes wide open.
Like you say, he's got much more knowledge now than he had in his first term.
And I think it's really just going to be very, very pro-America, pro-Israel, which is very prophetic.
Amen.
It needs to be.
Mondo, I know this is something.
I mean, Governor Mike Huckabee, a wonderful pick, but I know there's still a Palestinian state that's going to be fighting against even Governor Mike Huckabee.
Absolutely, absolutely.
We have a B-roll we want you to watch, and then we'll come back and talk some more about it.
Watch this.
Mike Huckabee is a former pastor who served as governor of Arkansas and ran for president.
In a statement, Trump stated the reasons for his nomination.
He loves Israel and the people of Israel, and likewise, the people of Israel love him.
Mike will work tirelessly to bring about peace in the Middle East.
In a recent interview, Huckabee told CBN News Wendy Griffith the importance of standing with Israel.
And in Genesis 12, it says, if you bless Israel, you'll be blessed.
If you curse Israel, you'll be cursed.
That's pretty clear.
He also brings a solid faith to the position.
But I know where I stand.
And the reason I do is because I stand on the Word of God.
And I stand on the principles that God is real and that his word, his direction, is more important than anything else in my life.
Former U.S. Ambassador to Israel David Friedman wrote, Congrats, Mike, on getting the best job in the world.
Evangelical leader Joel Rosenberg wrote, Huckabee's appointment sends a powerful message about Trump's intention to stand solidly and unwaveringly with Israel and to reject the failed Midis policies of Presidents Barack Obama and Joe Biden, of which Huckabee has been a sharp critic.
Yigal Carmon, founder of the Middle East Media Research Institute, told CBN News Huckabee is a perfect choice.
Governor Huckabee is an expert on Israel and the region in general, but he's also, and maybe more importantly, a believer, a leader in faith.
Carmon says Huckabee's faith helps him understand the wave of violent attacks in the Middle East, led by Shiite Iran.
It takes A, an expert, and B, a leader in faith to first understand the scope of the attack and the conflict in the region, and B, a leader in faith to implement the vision of President Trump of no war but peace with mainstream Sunni Islam.
As Israel's war with Iran's proxies continues, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu once again directly addressed the people of Iran.
He says, with Iran's economy in shambles, the Islamic regime wasted billions in its missile attack on Israel October 1st.
It's $2.3 billion.
That's how much of your precious money they wasted on feudal attacks.
He hinted if Iran strikes Israel again, the IDF might retaliate by hitting Iran's most valuable resources, like its oil fields and facilities.
Pull Out of UN 00:03:41
Another attack on Israel would simply cripple Iran's economy.
It would rob you of many more billions of dollars.
Netanyahu suggested Iran could finally have peace if it gets rid of the Islamic regime.
There is one force putting your family in grave danger, the tyrants of Tehran.
Wow.
Reverend, as we watch this, the United Nations has become an enemy to Israel.
How important would it be for President Trump to cut funding for the United Nations?
I believe that he should pull us out of the United Nations lockstock and barrel.
Go beyond defunding them, but just pull us out.
We don't want anything to do with that world governing body in the end time.
All they're trying to do is to create a world government.
That's why we're not protecting our borders and stuff like that.
They're trying to dictate what we do here in America.
And we do not, like, they just signed the Pact for the Future at the recent General Assembly in the United Nations, which turbocharges the United Nations and gives emergency powers, dictatorial powers, to the Secretary General Antonio Guterres.
We don't want that here in America.
I don't want America dictating or the United Nations dictating to America what we're supposed to do.
It's a foreign entity.
We signed a Declaration of Independence, not interdependence.
So I believe that we should get out of the United Nations lockstock and barrel, protect Israel all the way through, and win this world for the cause of Jesus Christ.
Amen.
And that's what it boils back down to, friends, the cause of Jesus Christ.
You know, we've had a lot of questions, and we ask our viewers, hey, what questions would you like us to ask certain guests?
I know they want an update on the red heifer from you, Reverend Dave.
Sure.
So the red heifers in Israel, many of you know that Israel had five red heifers that were brought there from Texas to have they were going to use them, one of them, as the red heifer ceremony to purify Israel.
And they believe that they need to purify Israel, anybody who's ever been in contact with a dead body, in order to resume sacrifices up on the Temple Mount, because they believe that the building of the third temple is just around the corner.
And I believe it is as well.
So to find a true kosher red heifer that is completely red, no white hairs, no black hairs, no blemishes, is certainly a very prophetic and it's something that we need to look into.
But they now have three red heifers.
They've already started breeding red heifers with a red bull and to create a herd.
However, there's not a time limit.
There's not an age limit on the red heifers.
As long as they can, as long as a heifer remains red and totally kosher, she could be 10 years old and they could still use her.
So they now, they still have three of them, and that's where we stand right now.
They're just waiting on the, they would have already done the ceremony had we not went off into this war.
And so as soon as everything dies down, they're going to, they're going to plan on doing that red heifer ceremony as we speak.
That's what we're waiting on.
Amen.
I appreciate that.
You know, we're living in these end times.
I truly believe that.
And there's a lot of questions that are being asked from the world.
And friends, we as the church body need to have those answers.
One of those questions is, is Jesus God?
Is he the Son of God?
And, you know, your co-host, a friend of yours, obviously a person that you work with interpersonally here, Doug Norvell, he made a DVD called Messiah Revealed.
Believers United 00:09:37
We're going to get into that.
But before we get into that and some other questions, I want you to watch this trailer on this DVD, Messiah Revealed.
The Roman government controlled the world.
So many people were looking for a different Messiah, a rescuing Messiah.
Remember the story of the woman at the well.
The woman saith unto him, I know that Messiah cometh, which is called Christ.
And Jesus said unto her, I that speak unto thee am he.
Jesus very clearly stated that he was God and that he was the Messiah.
We're even more blessed because we haven't seen those things, but yet we believe.
When Jesus cried out, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
He knew every one of these prophecies had to be fulfilled.
He said, it is finished.
That is Messiah Revealed, and we have Doug Norvell here with us right now.
Doug, hey, we're in your studio here in Dallas, Texas.
But one of the pressing questions is: what are some of the major prophecies about the Messiah that Jesus has fulfilled?
Well, you know, all of them are pretty fascinating, Ricky.
But some of the ones that I focus on and I like to talk about, first of all, is Psalm 22, because when you read Psalm 22, it's what's happening on the cross.
It's Jesus being crucified.
My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
Is what David is writing in that psalm?
Jesus actually says that on the cross.
To me, that's like one of the most solid ones there.
But remember, John the Baptist, he had been arrested now.
He was in prison basically for preaching the truth.
And he is kind of having a moment of doubt and he sends his disciples out to Jesus.
And Jesus is healing the sick.
He's healing the blind, healing the deaf.
And John's disciples come to Jesus and say, Our master has sent us to ask, Are you the one?
And Jesus said, You go and tell John what you saw here today, that the blind see, the deaf hear.
That was all written in the book of Isaiah about Jesus Christ.
They go back and tell John, this is what we saw.
And John says, Okay, then I'm ready.
He must increase.
I must decrease.
To me, that's like one of the most heavy ones in the Bible about that.
And I don't even cover that in Messiah Revealed because there's so many other ones.
That's one I'm kind of throwing out there as a bonus one.
We couldn't get to that because we had to keep it, you know, close to an hour there.
And so that's not even there.
There's so many that we would have had to do a series of all the things that Jesus fulfilled.
Somebody wants to get this DVD set so they can watch it, you know, even for their church boys.
I think this is a great Wednesday night service that a pastor could use.
Where would they go to get this?
They have this on End Time Media.
Yeah, you can go to onesource.com and you can go there, end time.com, and you can look.
It's there.
And I think right now we have a special on this.
I'm not the guy to ask that.
Vince is the guy to ask that.
Well, we have a special specifically for the PTL audience at endtime.com slash PTL.
And of course, your agents are taking calls and they're able to call the Jim Baker number and get the DVD or go to endtime.com/slash PTL.
Amen.
Mondo, you know, it's important that we're equipping the saints towards these last days that they have knowledge because, you know, when people come, they typically want to ask believers questions, the questions that they have.
And, you know, we need to be able to answer those questions.
I believe this is Messiah Revealed DVD does just that.
And I want people to call us.
You know, our number is 1-888-988-1588.
You can go to that endtime.com.
You said it's forward slash PTL.
You can check out that affiliate program or you can go to jimbakershow.com.
You can find our end time affiliate there as well.
Mondo, it's important these last days we're living in, isn't it, to make sure that we have knowledge that we can pass out.
Listen, it is probably the most vital information that we can ever do because the studies are coming out that most church people are Bible illiterate when it comes to understanding the full gospel of Jesus Christ from Revelation all the way back to Genesis.
I want to tell you something.
Most church goers don't even understand the full gospel of Jesus Christ.
And that's why we're watching a lot of pastors minister awoke Jesus.
There's never been anything like this before where the church has fallen in love with stories and just hearing the sermon.
But when it's time to study the word, they don't even understand or even recognize the word of God when they see it because they don't read it.
They don't understand it.
So the more we can put out there, and listen, write this down.
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It's time for the church, Ricky, to come back to the word.
Amen.
Amen.
Especially as we're talking about the birth of Jesus.
We are in that holiday time talking about Christmas.
Christmas trees behind Mondo there.
That's right.
This is what Doug highlights the Old Testament scriptures that lead up to the birth of Jesus.
So this is the perfect lesson for that.
Amen.
During this season, you know, let's talk about that for a second.
During this season, there's going to be a lot of family members that have opposing political views.
They have opposing even religious views.
I just want to ask you guys this question.
What are we to do as believers whenever we come as, you know, gatherings at our home with people that we may not necessarily agree with politically?
We may not agree with them doctrinally.
How are we as believers supposed to respond to that?
I'll let you answer that.
Well, you know, I can tell you how we should and I can tell you how I do.
That's right.
It's not just what we should do, but we love people no matter what.
Amen.
There are people in my family who don't align with everything that I believe.
They are, some of them are Democrats.
Some of them are homosexuals.
Some of them live unbelievable lifestyles that are just a lot of wild stuff going on.
And you know what?
No matter where they're at, I know that there's room at God's table for them still.
And so I'm going to love them.
Of course, that's a spiritual matter.
When it comes to political things, I'm going to love them through that as well.
We may not agree on the border.
We may not agree on world government or socialism or whatever.
But I'm not going to allow that to be something that separates me from being able to minister to one of my family members.
In spite of what the far left are telling people, we just did a show on Trump derangement syndrome, and there are people saying, don't go home for Thanksgiving if your parents voted for Trump.
And we're going, well, we'll never tell you that.
If they voted for a Kamala, bring them in, love them.
And, you know, no matter what, love your family.
Love your friends.
Love your neighbors.
Amen.
You know, Mondo, we see that quite a bit.
You know, the world we live in, like you said, there are going to be people who voted for Kamala Harris.
There are going to be people who voted for Donald Trump.
But either way, bring them in and show them the love of Christ.
And Mondo, you know, that's something that we practice, we preach.
We have people in our family, like you said, every family across this nation has people who we don't agree on every little detail, but we do agree on this, that Jesus Christ is king, that he's the only way to heaven, and he's the only one that can provide us salvation.
Isn't that right, Mondo?
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
And, you know, this is what I love about this program is that we're very transparent on the message that we're trying to give to you.
And I love guests like Vince.
And Vince, I got a question for you because are you surprised at the connection that Trump is making in the political world by making alliances, meaning unifying with tech giants and Democrats and other presidential opponents?
Does that surprise you?
No, because I've kind of watched Trump for some time now, even before he was running to be the president.
And so I've seen how he has wanted to accomplish things, get things done.
And we know very well that.
If you want to make a larger impact, a greater impact on society, you need to meet in the middle with some folks.
And so you're going to form alliances with people who don't see things the way that you do.
And so when I hear about Elon Musk and Tulsi Gabbard and others like that coming on board to help with the America first ideas, that doesn't surprise me.
We obviously explain current events to a lens of Bible prophecy.
So one area that I would highlight there is as we see America making it to the end, protecting Israel up until the return of Jesus Christ, I can see where this America first idea is going to be stronger than ever.
So it does not shock me at all to see folks like Elon Musk and Tulsi Gabbard and others teaming up with Trump and Trump bringing them in because we want to be a strong country and that's going to take diversity and unity regardless of where you stand on all things, political, religious, et cetera.
Bringing It Back To Jesus 00:15:39
That's right.
You know, I think we should be trying to focus and bring the conversation back to Jesus any chance we get, especially at that dinner table.
You know, they say there's things you're not supposed to talk about at the dinner table.
It's politics and religion.
We've been doing that for a while.
I was going to say, Marla, you know how it is at our dinner tables, I didn't think there's anything else we could talk about other than those two things.
We know we're seeing that right now, but to bring the conversation back to, especially those who may be lost or maybe hurting or maybe in a place where their faith isn't strong, to say, hey, there is a very real God.
He sent his very real son to die on a cross from you so that you can be joint heirs to the kingdom so that we can be brought in.
You know, there'll be questions that people have.
Like you said, you know, is Jesus the Son of God?
And was he God?
You know, those questions need to be answered.
Those answers can be found in the word of God clearly, but we need to be able to have a testament for them.
I want to ask you, you know, when the disciples were walking with Jesus, do you believe that they understood what was happening right in front of them?
Well, you know, they didn't.
And that's what's hard to believe.
I mean, it's, you know, we sit here and we think about it.
We read about what Jesus was doing.
We're like, okay, well, how could these guys be confused?
You remember when Peter arrives at the tomb and it's empty, he doesn't understand that.
He goes back to fishing, you know, and so he tells the guys, hey, I'm going to go do what I know to do.
I'm going to go fish because he didn't understand fully what was going on with the death, the burial, and the resurrection of Jesus Christ.
Well, Luke 24 even tells us, like 42 through 49, it says in there that Jesus had to open their understanding.
And he told them everything that's written from the law to the prophets to the Psalms was written about me.
And he opened their understanding, it says in those scriptures in Luke.
And it says that then he tells them, you have to go and be a witness to these things, preaching repentance and forgiveness of sins through my name, through the name of Jesus Christ, into the world.
And so they didn't fully understand until that moment when scripture says that he opened their understanding.
And at that point, he was resurrected.
He was getting ready to ascend from that mountain.
And he was telling them right then, this is the whole story.
This is what you need to understand.
So, no, they didn't.
And, you know, Mondo hit the nail on the head a while ago when he said there's a lot of churches that don't really understand this and ministers that are ministering to people that are not teaching the full truth of who Jesus is.
And so, you know, that's the message that we really need to get out in the world.
If we really want hope in the world, we have to always point them back to Jesus like we've been talking about.
Amen.
What do you think about that?
Listen, I believe God gave me a word last night for you.
Listen to this.
Get ready because God is on the move.
God is knocking at the doors of your sons and your daughters to preach the gospel of Jesus Christ.
And as parents, we have to help them to guide them on how to pray.
But more importantly, we have to help them to learn and read the full gospel of Jesus Christ.
Ricky, we are living in an hour right now that sons and daughters are going to see visions.
And it's time for the young generation to understand that when God comes knocking and interrupts their plan, we as parents have the mandate to teach them how to pray and teach them the word of God.
Because I want to tell you something.
We are living in an hour right now where a lot of the old timers that we used to know are walking away from the gospel.
I never in my lifetime would have ever believed that the old generation is disappearing, not because they're dying, but they're walking away from the faith.
You watch them on TikTok.
You watch them on Instagram.
You watch them on Facebook.
Yet we have a young generation that are hungry for God.
They're hungry for a move of God.
They don't want things to be fake anymore.
They want the real gospel and they want to experience what God is saying through Bible prophecy.
I want to tell you something.
And Vince, I probably not, I should never ask you this, but I got to ask you this because I believe that we are living in one of the most important times when it comes to Bible prophecy.
Yet, where do we go from there?
Vince, help me answer this question.
If young people get a prophecy, how do we help them interpret what they're seeing?
Well, you know, I always guide young people to say, let's look at the word of God.
Let's see how it aligns with this prophecy that you've received.
You know, sometimes people have given prophecies, but it doesn't, it's contradictory to what the word says.
So I walk with young folks that are seeing things in the prophetic, seeing things in the spirit realm, and try to help them align it with the word of God.
And if it's opposing it, then we're going to need to do some guidance there.
But otherwise, I'm going to encourage them to express that and to share what the Lord has given them.
And I actually, I'll piggyback off of what you said, Mondo.
You said the Lord gave you that word last night.
And I can tell you that the Lord gave me a word here for our team.
We have a time of prayer and devotion every morning.
And the Lord essentially shared with me to say that I've put obstacles and challenges in your life to prepare you for the days ahead.
You need to get ready.
Revival's coming.
And you need to be prepared to take faith steps that I'm going to put before you.
And I'm going to take care of you no matter what comes up.
Just be ready and be prepared to take those steps and trust in me.
And so I can testify that I believe that's from the Lord.
And I think it's for more than just our team here.
It's more than just for those of us sitting in the studio, but it's for everyone watching around the world.
Amen.
I believe that.
You know, whatever that, Mondo, I'm going to piggyback off that as well.
Whenever someone comes and says, hey, I got a word from the Lord, you know, what should I do with it?
I always tell them, we have a more sure word right here, friend.
Make sure it lines up with the word of God.
Make sure it has foundational, you know, a biblical foundational platform that you can stay on.
You know, the Bible says that there are two homes built, one built on a solid foundation and one built on a sandy foundation, one built on an unstable foundation.
Friends, the same trials and the same tribulations came to both homes.
The winds rose against them.
The waters came against them.
The one wasn't spared, and that's why it was good to go.
No, it was because it was on a good foundation.
Once you get a prophecy, a word from the Lord, ensure it goes back to that good foundation.
That will be the best way of ensuring you know, hey, I'm good to go.
I have a word from the Lord.
It was given to me, and it also lines up with the word of God.
I was talking to Reverend Dave before the show and I said, you know, people don't like when I say this, but I'll say it anyways.
When I became a believer, I lost my right to an opinion because now I just have the Bible to base off.
Now, I'm not talking an opinion on, you know, what color chairs should we have in the studio, what kind of carpet we have.
I'll always have those opinionated because I'm a very opinionated human being.
The Lord knows that.
But when it comes to biblical issues, I no longer have an opinion.
If the Bible says it is good, then I must say it is good.
If the Bible rejects it, then I must reject it.
And that's just that.
And that's the times we're living in, friend.
We need to have that firm foundation, especially as we're going into, you know, we're going into a lot of people would think is a time of reprieve, but that doesn't mean Christians need to just put their feet up, sit back, you know, go sit on a beach somewhere and think, hey, it's all good to go.
Friends, this is the time we need to get out there and work even harder.
We need to be pressing forward even more on getting people saved into the kingdom of God through Jesus Christ.
You know, there's an old adage, and it's a lot of people, they think they have a lot more time than they do.
So they're a little bit more relaxed about getting and telling people and sharing their faith with people.
But friends, we have to live our lives as if the rapture will happen tomorrow, as if it'll be coming tomorrow or even later this afternoon.
And if you knew that that was going to be happening, how many family members would you be picking up the phone and calling?
If you knew there was a time stamped on it, how many people would you say, hey, you know what?
I'm going to put aside that grudge that I'm holding.
I'm going to say I'm going to forgive them for what they did to me and say, you know what?
I need to ensure that we're going to spend eternity together with Christ Jesus.
I want to encourage you, if you're watching right now, I feel like this is for somebody.
You've been holding that grudge.
There's been something that has been done to you.
And friend, the Lord is saying it is time for you to fully forgive and it is time to call that person today.
Pick up that phone, ring them and say, hey, you know what?
I love you.
We may not have the same viewpoints on things, but the Lord wants me to let you know that he loves you as well.
And watch what God does in your life.
Watch what he will do for you and through you, friend.
I believe it's important that we listen to the prompting of the Holy Spirit.
So if the Holy Spirit says to do something, if he's checking your heart right now, please, friend, do it because, you know, it could mean the rest of your life holding a grudge or it could mean you are right now today are free.
And, you know, forgiveness, I say this all the time.
It doesn't mean the other person is right.
It doesn't mean what they did to you was right either.
It simply means that you are free, friend, that you can let go of that bondage.
You can let go of those chains and you can live a good, healthy, full life in the fullness of what Christ has for you.
But, you know, we're living in a time where people are saying, you know, the proof is in the pudding.
And a lot of people want proof and, you know, they want to see tangible evidence.
We are people who live by faith.
You know, but there is compelling proof, especially throughout the word of God, that Jesus did exactly what he said he was going to do, even thousands and thousands of years before.
I want you to kind of break down, especially in this Messiah reveal DVD.
If there was one thing you could say, hey, this was something that Jesus did to reveal himself to us that is maybe your favorite out of the DVD set, what would it be?
Well, it would be the woman at the well.
It's one of my favorite stories because, I mean, we've got a woman who was not living a Christian life for sure.
She had been married, you know, more than four times and the person she was with was not her husband at that time.
So Jesus comes to her and he's there in the heat of the day because that's when she's got to come gather the water because none of the townfolk will even gather water with her because she's the talk of the town, right?
And when he comes up there and he begins to talk to her, he begins to reveal things to her that only the Messiah would know.
And then he tells her, I am the Messiah.
And he hadn't told anybody that yet.
And he met this woman who was living in sin at the well because he knew that he was going to meet her there.
He had disciples going to town and he tells her, I that talk to you, I'm the Messiah.
And then she goes back and I don't know if everybody realizes this or not, how huge this was, but she goes back and sparks a revival that later Philip will come after the resurrection of Jesus and Philip will go and he will reap that.
And the people of Samaria are saved because of this woman that Jesus meets at the well.
And he chooses her, somebody that the rest of the world would look at and go, she's not worthy.
But he said, I'm the Messiah and I choose you.
And I choose to tell you that I'm the Messiah before I tell anybody else.
To me, that's one of the biggest things about what Jesus did.
Another one that really is something that sticks out to me is Daniel 9, 26, because it's something that Jewish people, they know the Bible.
They know Daniel.
And if you take them to Daniel 9, 26, it says the Messiah dies before the city in the sanctuary is destroyed.
Well, we know the city in the sanctuary was destroyed in 70 AD by the Romans.
So that means the Messiah had to come before the second temple was destroyed.
Jesus was there way before that.
And if they just opened their eyes to the truth of what scripture says, it tells you the Messiah would be cut off, but not of himself, before the city in the sanctuary is destroyed.
So that right there is another huge prophecy that you could even reach out to Jewish friends and share that with them and say, look, the Messiah's been here and it's Jesus Christ.
Wow.
The Messiah's been here and it's Jesus Christ.
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Ricky?
Amen.
You know, with just a few minutes left on the broadcast, a lot of people are worried.
No matter who's in the White House right now, they think that we could be in a face-off with Russia in a war.
I want to ask you, you know, they say World War III will be sparked if we go to war with Russia.
And a lot of people are saying that we could be at war with Russia before President Trump takes office late January.
What do you think, Fitz?
Do you think that we'll see a possible war with Russia?
Well, one thing Doug and I do is explain current events through Lens of Bible prophecy.
We're not the prophecy guys that come in and scare you to death.
But what we do is say, here's what the world, here's what's happening in the world.
Here's what scripture says.
Most of the time we get to say, so you don't have to be worried about this, is, well, I better not get into some of the examples.
But in this particular case, we see World War III sparking from the Middle East along the Euphrates River.
So when Russia-Ukraine war began, our phones blew up here wanting to know if that was the Battle of Armageddon.
And we got to explain that that was not the Battle of Armageddon because here's what scripture says.
So could war start between now and January between the United States and Russia?
Anything is possible, but I'm going to try to speak peace into people's life and say, from what I can see in scripture, I don't see that happening.
Russia's going to be part of the world government system in the end, as far as we can tell.
And them being wiped off the map or the United States being wiped off the map, that's not going to happen.
And so we rest easy knowing that between now and January, there could be a lot of bad things happen.
That's why you need to get right with the Lord.
You talk about the rapture happening at any minute.
I didn't know if you realized which studio you were sitting in when you were talking about that.
But people can die at any minute.
That's for sure.
There's tragedy that can come.
And so you need to be right with the Lord.
You need to be praying.
You need to be opening this word that we've been talking about and seeing what God's word says.
And you need to be ready no matter what.
So I don't look for a war with Russia, a world war with Russia between now and January 20th.
But there is a war coming that's going to kill a third of mankind.
It's going to emanate from the Euphrates River.
Of course, we have the Hamas-Israel conflict going on right now.
Live Like Rapture Today 00:06:03
It looks like peace is going to come with Trump's leadership, but time will tell.
There will be a peace treaty.
There will be a war.
And so both are coming at some point.
So get ready right now.
Amen.
It is time to get ready.
Hey, I want to clarify my bench trying to make me a pre-tribulation person.
I know you're talking about the storms.
We got to live life like the rapture is going to happen today, friends.
I believe we're going through all the tribulation.
But hey, what a beautiful thing that'll be.
I know people say, hey, tribulation, I don't want to have to go through it.
But friends, you know how many people are going to turn their lives to the Lord during this hard time?
Friends, we should count that as joy that the Lord would pick us during this season to be there during a tribulation time to say, hey, there is one way to heaven and it is Jesus Christ to provide a meal for somebody during that time, to provide some clothes for somebody during that time and to ultimately provide them the message of hope that is Jesus Christ, friends.
I do think we're going to be going through some trials and tribulations.
The church will see persecution.
But friends, we have a sure foundation that is Christ Jesus.
And we're going to spend eternity with him if you accept him into your life.
You know, Doug, I feel like there's somebody watching right now.
Maybe they don't know Jesus as their personal Lord and Savior.
I think that's important to do right now.
If somebody's saying, I've been riding the fence my whole life, I've gone to church, but I've never actually given my life to the Lord.
What would you say to them right now?
Well, I tell them right now is the time to do it.
I mean, the thing is, the scriptures tell us that you must be born again.
You know, to enter the kingdom of heaven, a man must be born in the spirit and the water.
And so that's something you've got to do to get your name written in the Lamb's book of life.
You need to be born again.
And right now is the most important time for that, Ricky, because the Bible tells us that he who endures till the end, he shall be saved.
So even though we do these things and make sure our name is written in the Lamb's book of life, it's still a process.
We are working on that.
The Bible says that we work out our salvation with fear and trembling.
And so there's no better time than right now to get right because so many things are coming up and they're just prophecies are falling in line.
This peace treaty maybe can happen.
This, the red heifers you talked to with Reverend Dave about, all these things are lining up.
Israel had prayer on the Temple Mount by a priest and it was posted on Facebook on the Temple Mount.
That hasn't happened by our Jewish rabbi up there saying a prayer and people speaking prayer out loud where they haven't been able to do that before on the Temple Mount.
These things are happening now and it's time to move.
It is time to move.
I want to read something to you guys to encourage you.
If you're watching this right now, open your Bibles or open up your phone, whatever you have, to 2 Timothy chapter 2.
I'm going to start with verse 3 and read this to you.
It says, share in suffering as a good soldier of Jesus Christ.
No one serving as a soldier gets entangled in the concerns of civilian life.
He seeks to please the commanding officer.
Also, if anyone competes as an athlete, he is not crowned unless he competes according to the rules.
The hardworking farmer ought to be the first to get a share of the crops.
Consider what I say, for the Lord will give you understanding in everything.
Friends, we are living in a time where the world wants to input so much knowledge into your mind.
They want you to be sitting there doom scrolling on your phone on social media, watching 10-second videos over and over and over.
Friends, we need to be pursuing and pressing into the knowledge of Jesus Christ.
That is going to be the most important thing you have.
Memorizing the word of God, having it buried deep inside of your heart, I promise you, friend, will be something that you will never regret doing.
Having an intimate relationship with the Father, with the Son, with the Holy Spirit, having that time of prayer every single day, waking up 15 minutes before you normally would wake up and saying, God, even if it's just 15 minutes, I am consecrating a part of my day to you to let you know that I'm serious about my walk with you.
Friends, it is time to get serious about your walk with Jesus Christ.
There has never been a better day than today to start that seriousness.
You may be saying, well, I've gone to church on Sundays.
I've gone to church on Wednesdays, but I haven't given my life to the Lord.
Friends, in everything you do, you need to ensure that you are advising with the Holy Spirit and that you are listening to the prompting of the Holy Spirit.
Mondo, we know that is the only thing that we can do to be living a good life.
If you want to be living a life where you're going to be, you know, what they say, happy, wealthy, and wise or something like that, friends, you got to be with the Holy Spirit.
You're not going to be any of those things.
You may have money, but you won't be wealthy, friends, because the true wealth is what we store in our hearts, and our hearts need Jesus Christ.
Isn't that right, Mondo?
Absolutely.
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And come back soon, man.
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