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June 25, 2024 - Jim Bakker Show
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The Jim Bakker Show With Chris Reed 2 (FULL EPISODE)
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Accountability And Intimacy 00:12:13
Hello and welcome to the Jim Baker Family Show coming to you from the village of Morningside, USA, nestled in the beautiful Ozark Mountains.
Today is day two with our special guest, president and CEO of Morningstar Ministries, Pastor Chris Reed.
Our co-hosts today are Marty Sella Woodall and Mondo de la Vega.
And now, live from Gray Street at Morningside, USA, here's your host, my husband, Pastor Ricky Baker.
Hello, you're watching Jim Baker's PTL Television Network.
We're excited you chose to tune in with us today.
It's an exciting day for the broadcast.
We have Pastor Chris Reed back with a day two.
Pastor, we want to thank you for being back on with us.
One of the most accurate men of God that is out there right now.
That's right.
Gives word of knowledge to people.
And I'm telling you, it's very rare in a time that we're in right now to see a man that is used by God accurately.
And I don't mean no disrespect to anybody out there, but I'm going to tell you something.
After being in, you know, working and seeing things behind the scenes, 26 years, you hear a lot of people, you see a lot of people, but then you come across Chris Reed.
Now I know why Pastor Rick Joyner felt from God that this was the man to lead Morningstar in this hour that we're doing.
I entrusted him as the president and the CEO.
You know, that is what happens when you walk intimately and have a relationship with the Holy Spirit.
If you're sitting at home and you're saying, man, I would love to be used in that type of capacity.
I'd love to be used in the capacity of giving words of knowledge or stepping into my calling that I feel like the Lord has for me.
You have to have an intimate relationship with the Holy Spirit.
Mono, you found that out many, many years ago whenever you were traveling overseas ministry and the Holy Spirit said, hey, it's time to take a step back and get to know me a little bit better.
The Holy Spirit is our key to unlocking the fullness of our potential.
Listen, accountability with the call of God goes hand in hand.
And you can't get excited because you have a word from God or you got a calling from God.
It's realigning with the will of God.
And that's the hard part because the will of God is to get to know him personally and traveling and speaking all over the world.
And can you imagine?
Here I am just born again and I'm traveling all over the world speaking to 50,000 people, 100,000 people, 10,000 people.
And it's nice.
And here I am talking about what God did in my life and everything was good.
Yet I did not know him personally.
And thank God that he interrupted me to say, hey, come and get to know me and I will use you later in your life or you have a choice.
You can keep what you have now, but it's not going to last forever.
Amen.
I didn't know what I was doing, but I said, I better listen.
I need to go home, get to know him.
And if I ever go back on the road to speak to thousands of people again, so be it.
But you know what?
I'm not worried about that.
But yet here I am later in my life and I'm speaking not to thousands, speaking to millions of people.
That's God.
When you stay in obedience and get to know him and realign your life and your calling and your gifting with the will of God, things begin to happen in a way that not what you expected, but what he expects from us as we get to know him.
So listen, if you're wondering if God can use you, absolutely.
If you're wondering, God can take you all over the world, absolutely.
As long as you follow his guidelines, as long as you follow his will, God will open the doors for you in accountability with the Holy Spirit.
So you're not preaching and teaching crazy things.
You're not going to have accountability.
Listen, in my time, I know I talk about it like I'm old, but 26 years ago, there was no social media.
Getting up there, brother.
Don't worry.
You're right.
You're getting there.
I'm getting there.
Look, I'm looking like a pastor over there getting old already.
But I want to tell you something.
Social media today, everybody's an expert.
You got to be very, very, very, very careful because not everything that is out there is good.
But yet, when you go back to the word of God.
Oh, I love that.
We always go back to the word.
If it's not aligning with the word, you better be careful.
I remember dad years ago when we were traveling with him.
He said, make sure you have your Bible with you and make sure that you're following along because if I'm preaching something that is not in the word, I want you to correct me.
I mean, this is an older man.
He's built heritage to a saint.
You know, God called him to build, you know, the PTL network.
And you're asking this ex-gang member to keep you accountable.
That told me what kind of man this man was.
That's right.
Someone that says.
And you know what?
There was one time I did.
And he said, well, let's study the word.
Well, I was wrong, of course, you know, because I was getting the context of the scripture differently.
But when he helped me put it back into context, I realized, oh, boy, I got a lot of work to do.
Amen.
You know, Pastor Jim Baker has always said accountability is a believer's friend.
Friend, if you are out there and you have a ministry under you or you're stepping into the role of a pastor, prophet, teacher, whatever it may be, make sure you have accountability around you for your own sake and for those around you.
You know, it's edifying one another.
Iron-sharpening iron, brother.
You know, we have to make sure that we are willing to have someone say, hey, brother, while you may have taught that with a fervent spirit and excitement and you may have been hooping and hollering, it theologically doesn't make sense.
It doesn't add up.
Friend, we meet to make sure we are studying to show ourselves approved.
You know, we live in 2024 and we'll just call it like it is.
We have a lot of people who want to be on the platform and preach the word of God without first praying and studying the word of God.
If you have the desire to be out there and preach the word of God without the desire to study and pray about the word of God, then you have a desire to perform.
You don't have a desire to minister.
Listen, when God calls you, if it doesn't scare you, you better run.
It should scare you the fact that God has called you into the forefront, into a platform, because if he sees something that you don't see, you better realign with him.
I remember after I left Scandinavia and I heard from God to go home and get to know him.
You know, Pastor Jim was waiting for me and said, hey, okay, now we're going to start Bible studies.
Then Brother Rick Joyner called me and thank God for brother Rick Joyner because he befriended me through dad's friendship and he believed in me and said, hey, while you're here, I want you to come to back then it was the beginning of the school of the prophets.
Today, they're having conferences and hundreds and thousands of people show up and watch online.
Back then, there was a group of us and he says, I want you to come and sit and learn what it is to be prophetic, understand how to walk as a prophet, how to hear God, how to have interpretation of dreams, how to have visions and understand it.
But I want to tell you something.
You have to have men and women of God that can disciple you.
Oh, I just cussed.
Discipleship.
People in the church don't like the word discipleship.
But if people ask me, what has been your success for the last 26 years?
One, it's learn to hear from God.
Two, to be obedient to the call of God.
And number three, to be willing to be discipled.
So many people don't want to be discipled, yet they want the platform.
You know, be careful if you want the platform because you're asking for something that you really don't understand.
It can burn you out if you're not called and prepared.
And in the accountability of the platform comes the responsibility that you carry.
But I want you to know the hour that we're in right now can be so deceptive because everyone feels the call of God.
And that's a great thing.
And everyone has a great gift from God.
And that's an amazing thing.
But my recommendation is this, align with the will of God.
So the calling and the giftings will make room for you.
That's right.
Now, Pastor Chris Reed, I know that you are a man who believes in accountability.
You have a school, a school of ministry.
If someone wanted to go and say, hey, you know what?
I want to tap into this prophetic gift someone had prophesied over me many years ago where I felt the prompting of the Holy Spirit saying, hey, this is what I'm supposed to be walking into.
How would someone join with you guys in getting the training, the discipleship they need to walk in the fullness of what God has called them to?
To get the training that they need, there's two ways they can do that.
And that is every year in September, including this coming September, 2024, we have a one-weekend a month intensive known as the School of the Prophets.
It starts on the second weekend of the month and it goes Thursday evening, Friday morning, Friday afternoon, Friday evening, and Saturday morning.
And by noon, it's done.
Now you can come in person each month and stay here at Heritage International.
This is where PTL used to be here in Fort Mill, South Carolina, the place that Pastor Jim Baker built.
Or you can do it online from the comfort of your own home.
The website to get information or to register is msop.com.
And I encourage you, if you want to grow in the prophetic, learning to hear God's voice, teachings, activations, that is the place to do it, especially if you're working, mom and dad, or whatever, and you just don't have the time.
I encourage you to do that.
It's just a one-weekend a month intensive, and we have an impartation at the end of May.
It starts in September, goes through May, or we have a full-time accredited Bible college.
And that's Morningstar University, mstaru.com.
Once again, mstaru.com.
If you know somebody who wants to dedicate three years of their life or even one year, just gap year, we have a school of ministry, a full-time school of the prophets, school of technology, school of worship, school of communications.
We also have a school of special forces that's training people in disaster relief or recovering those who have been in human human trafficked.
So that's on the campus here full-time.
So that's for anybody who wants to go full-time, mstaru.com.
And you can apply now for the upcoming school year.
But the one weekend a month intensive is mssop.com and you can register there or get information there.
Amen.
Amen.
We're going to have those graphics up on the screen.
You can scan their QR code, go to their websites, or you can click or look at any of the links that we have below and you can go check out their school, their monthly or their weekly weekend intensive.
We want you to go and go do this because this is an opportunity of a lifetime.
We support Morningstar Ministries and what they're doing because they are preaching and teaching and walking and activating people into the fullness of what God has for them.
You know, you have a book called Developing Your Prophetic Filter.
Now, I know if you go to this school and you dedicate three years of your life, you're going to learn how to develop your prophetic filter.
Can you tell us about this book you have sitting right next to you and why did you feel the need to write a book called Developing Your Prophetic Filter?
Well, that's a great question.
So, you know, just to clarify, the School of the Prophets weekend intensive is only nine months.
Now, you can take it multiple years, but you can do the whole course in one year.
If you want the associate's or bachelor's degree, that's the full-time program where you come in person or you can do that online as well at mstaru.com.
Why did I write this?
Hearing God's Voice 00:09:09
Well, because the number one question that I hear people ask is, how do I know if God's speaking to me?
Is it the voice of my mind?
Is it just confirmation bias, you know, confirmation biases?
When you receive any new information and you filter it through the lens of what you already believe.
And so I show through scripture the reason why it's important for you to develop your filter.
Your filter, imagine a filter, an oil filter, right?
It's aimed to be able to get something in the right direction.
It filters out all the things that you don't want to go into the engine or any kind of filter.
And so filtering out the influences of culture, filtering out the influence of your own confirmation bias and learning to identify this is how God speaks to me.
And I said it yesterday, and I'll say it again.
It's kind of like with Joseph.
When God spoke to him in a dream, he spoke to him, you know, through sheaves bowing down or at that time or cattle, lean cattle or fat cattle.
Why?
Because it was an agricultural society.
When he spoke to Simon Peter, he said, come and follow me.
I'll make you fishers of men.
Why?
Because Simon Peter understood that unique language to him because he was a commercial fisherman.
So he used that metaphor or analogy.
When Jesus revealed himself to the men on the road to Emmaus, his eyes, their eyes were beholden from recognizing him that whole day until the Bible says he broke bread at their house and then their eyes were opened and he vanished from their sight.
Well, why?
It says the Bible clearly says he was made known to them in the order of breaking bread.
Well, if you realize they had just come back from Jerusalem and celebrated the Passover, and so they had broke bread.
And so Jesus used something that was relative to them, a language they understood to identify his voice.
And he revealed himself to them through that very thing they had just done a few days prior at Passover.
So it's really about teaching people how God speaks to you because the role of the apostle, prophet, evangelist, pastor, and teacher is to not just do the prophesying, but teach you how to hear the voice of God for yourself.
Jesus said, my sheep know and hear my voice, and we must only do and speak what we hear the Father hear and speak.
And we can only speak that in the secret place.
So it's about learning to hear God's voice.
Amen.
You know, I want to tell you something.
This is incredible that he's saying that.
The very first thing that I learned once I met Pastor Jim and Rick Joyner was to develop my ear to hear God's voice.
The reason why I responded the way I did in Scandinavia when I heard the voice of the Holy Spirit speak to me was because of that training.
The training to realize when is God speaking?
How does he speak?
Most people, when I say most people, I'm talking about most church people don't develop to hear God's voice and they end up getting frustrated, not knowing what their purpose is in ministry or in life itself.
Thank God for men of wisdom that can teach you the very principles that can be the foundation that you can build your relationship with God.
Amen.
The critical thing is learning to hear God's voice, especially right now in the midst of so many voices trying to speak to you.
This is the reason why many people, my opinion, why many people run trying to get a word from God from the prophets, trying to get confirmation, trying, but yet if they learn how to develop their ear to hear God's voice, they can save themselves some time and money and trips trying to figure out what, because we're treating the prophets and pastors and evangelists like they're fortune tellers.
Yet, the deception in the church not understanding biblical principles leads to biblical illiteracy.
Do you understand what I'm saying?
Listen, people, understand what he just said is so critical.
It is the foundation.
Yet many veterans in the church, many people that have been seasoned 30, 40 years serving God, yet still have a hard time listening to what is the voice of God.
That's right.
I want to tell you something.
If you're going to be led in the time that we're in right now, we must learn to hear the voice of God.
We must learn what that voice of God sounds like.
My sheep know my voice.
Amen.
When you speak to your sheep, I saw it the other day.
This guy, listen, I'm traveling all over the world while my sister and brother are raising chickens and sheep.
But I remember my sheep.
I remember driving up to, you know, making sure that the sheep didn't escape that I tried talking to them.
They ignored me.
The moment they heard your voice, they stood still.
Amen.
I want to tell you something.
That was very critical.
This is so profound because spiritually it's the same way.
When God speaks, we should stop and listen.
Right now, no one's listening.
Everybody's going here and there and trying to go to this and going to that, not understanding.
I'm not saying don't go to conferences.
That's not it.
You go to conferences so you can be equipped and learn and so you can be sent out.
But the foundation is learn to hear his voice.
That's right.
Man, I feel like I'm back in school.
Amen.
Amen.
You know, Pastor Jim Baker has been saying for many, many decades now that he believes we're truly living in the last days.
And we here at the PTL Television Network, I know for myself, for Mondo, for Marcella, we truly believe that as well.
We believe this message we're sitting here teaching and preaching about.
I want you to watch this clip from your friend, Pastor Jim Baker, where he's saying we're living in the last of the last days.
We're in the final days.
We really are.
They have begun.
The days of sorrow have begun.
This is it.
They're there.
It's happening.
My Lord, how could we have a president even like this?
The warfare between good and evil, what we're seeing, what's happening in the Vatican, what's happening all over.
These things are happening and you know it.
If you have any brain left, you know we're in the last days.
Amen.
And it's going to happen quickly.
It is quickly.
It's going to be a quick work.
It's going to happen and people will be overwhelmed with what's happening.
I believe the fires in California are part of the judgment of God on the state of California.
And I'm sorry because my best friends live there.
And I mean that.
That's not a joke.
But I'm telling you, the fires are the worst in history.
And they keep being the worst of history.
Million dollars homes near Hollywood.
They're burned to the ground in seconds.
America's not repenting.
America's not.
I'm sorry.
I wish I could say, oh, everybody's getting saved.
Hallelujah.
They're not.
It's the opposite.
They mock God more.
The good things, they're destroying good people.
There is a war between good and evil.
And I know people have mocked what I do because I felt God spoke to me through the revelation in the prison days to warn people to be ready because you do not want to take the mark of the beast.
You do not want to take the mark from the Antichrist.
You do not want to do that because that dooms you eternally to hell according to the scriptures.
And I presume you all agree with that.
Yes.
That's it.
Door closes.
Wow.
And so God wants the church to be ready to win souls, to help people in the last days.
You know, in 1999, when Pastor Jim Baker was at Moravian Falls, the Lord gave him 31 things.
And at the time, Honor, those things were, some of them were so bold and so out the window.
And one of them was watch Turkey.
And I've heard so many men and women sit on this stage and they say, well, when you released the 31 things, we were wondering, you know, we agreed with the majority of them, but we were all wondering, why watch Turkey?
Acceleration Of Prophetic Events 00:08:47
Now, Pastor Chris Reed, I want to ask you this.
What has God shown you about China, Russia, and specifically Turkey?
I believe, and back in 2022, I released a prophetic vision where I saw slowly the dismantling of the current Chinese government.
I saw Xi Jinping's rule coming to an end, and I actually saw the bamboo curtain, you know, just like the Iron Curtain, beginning to dismantle.
And I saw China break up into a group of states with varying forms of democracy.
Now, I know that sounds crazy, but I think that there is a great move of God happening underground in China.
What the Lord said to me is that the church below the ground in China is about to see above-ground results.
So I actually think before the Lord sets up his kingdom upon the earth in the millennium in Jerusalem, I think there'll be, if you want to say one more pit stop, I think Asia is and will see a great outpouring of the Holy Spirit.
Not just them alone, but God's going to reform, I believe, China.
So I think we're going to see that.
I think Russia, I don't think Putin will be with us much longer, but I think there'll be someone who will come after him, who I personally believe will be worse because I think we're going to see Russia and I see Russia and Turkey ultimately, Ezekiel 38, Gog and Magog.
I love Russia.
I love the Russian people.
I know it's not the Soviet Union, but clearly there are those in Russia who want to take back the territorial ground that the Soviet Union had, even if they don't implement the same Soviet Union values.
They want the land back.
And I think Putin has been weighed in the balance.
His time is short.
He won't be in power much longer, but I do think ultimately there will be a coalition of Russia and Turkey that will come against Israel.
Wow.
You know, what you just said was, Mono, that is so profound.
You don't hear other men and women of God prophets talking like this.
Pastor Chris, I want to go into that more.
You said that you believe, and I want to make sure I don't misquote you.
What did you say exactly about the current president of Russia?
Yeah, I believe that Vladimir Putin has a limited time.
I don't believe he has much time left in power and that he will come out of power and that there will be someone who will come after him who will be a worse leader than him.
And it will be a part of the end time dynamics.
But Vladimir Putin will not stay the president of Russia much longer.
Wow, that is a huge word.
I mean, Mondo, we've seen, I mean, Vladimir Putin has ruled and reigned Russia for many, many, many years.
I mean, there are generations who have seen the power of President Vladimir Putin.
This is a big word.
I mean, to see, and then, Mondo, to see another president come after him who is worse.
I mean, we are seeing the end time global world government start, you know, the dominoes, the pieces are starting to fall into place.
You know, when you look at what's happening in Russia right now and the acceleration of moving ships to Cuba, tells you there's an urgency behind it.
When you see Vladimir Putin making such threats to America like no other president has done or is doing that boldly, tells you that there's an acceleration behind the scenes on trying to move as much as he can before an exit or before his health declines.
I think what we're watching is what Pastor Chris Reed is saying is the lining up of events and things that will accelerate into prophetic what the Bible talks about that has to take place before Jesus comes back.
I think when you watch China right now in preparation on trying to gain more ground on Taiwan, and what I'm watching for is the silence that is happening in Turkey right now.
Why is the president of Turkey signing?
But yet behind the scenes, they're funding ISIS again.
Just a few days ago, we saw a headline that a lot of people are not talking about it because we're more entertained on what's happening with President Trump in the courts and Hunter Biden in the courts when we should be paying attention on this.
On alert, ISIS makes a lone wolf threat to Paris 2024 Olympics.
I want you to know something.
This is like going back a few years when ISIS was making those threats and then something did happen.
Listen, watch the silence of Turkey.
Why are they being silent?
Why are they not talking?
These are people that are not wanting to be in front of the camera constantly, but when they do, you better pay attention to what they're saying because it's aligning everything on what the Bible has predicted.
Yet in America, we are entertained by the court system deceiving us and leading us astray when the real problems are overseas.
America is not the superpower that once was.
Russia is a superpower.
What affects America doesn't affect the world the same way, but yet we're feeling it in our pockets economically.
We're seeing hundreds of restaurants closing every single day and more to come.
That should send a warning.
Our enemies are watching how we're responding to a lot of these events.
Yet, behind the scenes, you're seeing Vladimir Putin accelerating and making moves that it's unnatural.
That's right.
You know, Pastor Chris Reed, you published a 40-page book that mentions a prophecy regarding October 7th, the Chinese spy balloon.
Now, Mondo, just like you said, I want to ask Pastor Chris Reed this question.
Do you think that America looks weak to the rest of the world right now?
It absolutely does.
So, yeah, it's 40 prophecies.
I think it's actually around 170 pages.
But yeah, I talk about that.
In fact, let me just quickly read to you the prophecy about the, this was in November of 2022.
Tell me what this sounds like to you when I read this.
A hijacked aircraft will be a mystery in the skies.
It will carry significant information of some sort and will be missing and then reappear and then missing and reappear.
This is bizarre.
I can't see all the details of it, but it will be a news story with details.
I saw it having something to do with coming from Canada or showing up in Canada and China is involved.
Wow.
That's the Chinese spy balloon.
And that was four months before it came.
That was November 18th of 2022.
And then I also, of course, I said that this was back in 2019.
These are all time stamped on here.
Terrible physical attacks will come on Israel from Palestinian fighters and terrorists.
So we documented some of these things.
And one of the things that we documented here was about the legal woes of Hunter Biden being the ultimate downfall of his father's presidency.
So we are seeing an acceleration of prophetic events that are happening.
And just like in the Rebirth of America dream, I said there would be a literal shaking that we talked about yesterday at the time of the eclipse in April.
And there was a once in over a 100-year earthquake in New York and New Jersey, 4.8 earthquake, which pointed to the eclipse on 4-8, April 8th.
Wow.
Now, I want to talk about those books.
You have those books sitting with you.
If someone wants to order those books, and I want to correct myself, that is a book with 40 prophecies that were given to Pastor Chris Reed.
Last Night's MSTAR Events 00:07:30
It's about 170 pages or so.
But if someone wants to get this book, Pastor, how would they go about doing that?
Well, you can order these on Amazon.
Just type in Chris Reed, and then you can put in that one there, praying through the 40 prophecies.
The other book, of course, is Developing Your Prophetic Filter.
Just type that into Amazon as well.
And then there was my first book that came out just a little over a year ago, which is The Seven Spirits of God Experiencing Throne Room Realities.
So, yeah, you can order that from morningstarministries.org forward slash store by scanning the QR code, but you can order them off Amazon.
And I believe those blessings are really, I've had so many people say I've read that and spiritual experiences, visions, dreams have suddenly dramatically increased because I believe it holds biblical secrets on encountering the supernatural.
Amen.
You know, I believe the supernatural is here.
I know I've been telling you, Mondo, about this.
You know, I think in the last 10 years, I could say I had three or four very vivid dreams that I recall.
Remember, I have written down.
And over the last six months, I feel like I've been having a dream every other night that's vivid.
It's, you know, we have explained a lot of these to you, written them down between you and Pastor Jim, kind of just ran them by you guys.
But I believe that people are going to start seeing more vivid, more descriptive, more prophetic dreams coming to them as they seek the Holy Spirit, as they get into the holy place.
So friend, if you're saying, hey, you know what, I want to be used in that capacity.
I want the Lord to speak to me.
I want, you know, to be a vessel, simply to be able to possibly be a watchman for my family, for my community.
Then, friend, the most important thing you can do is first and foremost, make sure you have a relationship with Jesus Christ.
That is the most important thing you can ever do on this planet.
This life is a vapor.
As our great Apostle Paul tells us, there's not very much time.
You want to make sure that you have that intimate relationship with Jesus.
Make sure that you know him and that he knows you.
But he gave us something when he ascended back into heaven.
He gave us the Holy Spirit, a great comforter for us.
Make sure that you have a relationship with the Holy Spirit, that you're allowing the Holy Spirit to convict you.
You're allowing the Holy Spirit to come in and check you to make sure that you are living according to the scripture.
Because there's a lot of people who call themselves believers.
You know what?
We see this.
There's going to be a great falling away.
The great falling away, I believe, is truly because people don't have an intimate relationship with the Holy Spirit.
They will be, you know, what is 1 Timothy chapter 4 says it says that they will adhere to a doctrine of demons, that there will be those who drift away from the church and they adhere to a doctrine of demons.
Well, brother, if you have a true and really good, strong relationship with the Holy Spirit, whenever those doctrines of demons come and try to entertain your ears, the Holy Spirit will spike something in your spirit and you'll be able to say, you know what?
I understand that is not according to the scriptures, that is not by the scriptures, and that will not sit with me as doctrine.
Friend, you need to make sure you have an intimate relationship with the Holy Spirit.
Now, Pastor Chris, you know, we're seeing great turmoil in our country, but at the same time, we're seeing God move among his people.
Now, you have a clip that I took from one of your shows.
It says, The Lord woke two people up at 2:33 a.m.
I want to watch this, and I want you to comment on it afterwards.
Just pick this up.
Somebody woke up last night in the middle of the night, and when you looked at the clock, it was 2:33 a.m. right there.
Yes, yes, yes.
And he also came to you recently and told you, right, that there was an older moment to take advantage of this season to not let it pass you by, to not forego or miss this chance because it's like this.
It wasn't like the last chance, but it's like if you don't do it, get it this time, you're really going to miss out.
2:33, Acts 2:33.
Read it now.
He is exalted to the place of highest honor at God's right hand.
The Father, as he had promised, gave him the Holy Spirit.
And the Father, as he has promised, gave him the Holy Spirit, just as you see and hear today.
I think that verse itself is a prophetic word over you and everybody in this room.
Now, there's no way I could have known you woke up at 2:33 last night, or that the Lord visited you and told you this is your like the last chance.
You've got to really get it this time.
You've got to make advantage of this.
You know that, though.
And something happened at 2:33 because I see you giving some sort of response to the Lord in that moment.
And he heard you.
He heard you.
He heard your yes, Lord.
He heard your amen to God.
Also, somebody else had an experience, an encounter with the Lord.
And what you remember about the encounter is you heard the word amen thundered over you or to you.
It was an amen of heaven spoken into your spirit.
Wherever you are, I know that you're here tonight.
All right.
How recent?
What is it?
So last night.
Last night.
So this isn't guesswork.
It was real because it came out of my mouth.
And I was asleep and I wake up.
You woke up saying amen.
Your life is going to become an amen to God.
For the purposes of God are yes and amen.
Amen, Pastor.
This is at one of your conferences there in South Carolina.
Can you tell us about that experience?
I mean, that's Mona, that is amazing.
The fact that the Holy Spirit told you, Pastor Chris, Reed, a woman woke up at 2:33 in the morning.
She was there, and you said, Hey, the Lord also told me that there was a thundering amen.
And there was a man experienced that exact same thing in that exact same conference.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, you know, we have here at Morningstar, we have several conferences during the year.
And we have a hotel here.
People come stay.
They go right down in the atrium where Pastor Jim used to host his television shows and all of that right here at Heritage International.
It used to be Heritage Grand Hotel.
Anyway, mstar events.com is where all of those conferences are at, where you can get info and register for each one, mstar events.com.
That's an example of where the Lord would show me a dream that someone had or a visionary experience and even the time that they had it and what the Lord said to them.
Prophetic Dreams and Divine Revelation 00:07:42
For instance, I'll give you one more example.
This past weekend, I gave a prophetic word to a woman.
I saw, I said, the Lord allowed me to tune into this.
And I had recently came to her in the middle of the night in the form of a dream and prophesied to her seven specific things that the Lord said was going to come to her life.
And then she said, yes, that's true.
That happened.
And then I mentioned the seven things that I told her in the dream.
And, you know, it was a thus saith the Lord kind of moment.
Now, that stuff kind of freaks some people out because it's hard to explain that away when it starts happening on a regular occasion.
And what I see it as is I see it a Daniel 2 kind of anointing.
It's not just for me.
I don't consider myself anything special.
But remember, in Daniel 2, the king could not remember his dream.
Many people, you know, they think of the king wanting the interpretation, but let me read it to you.
Daniel 2 and 26, the king answered and said to Daniel, whose name was Belshazzar, Are you able to make known to me the dream which I have seen and its interpretation?
Daniel said in the presence of the king and said, The secret which the king has demanded the wise men, the astrologers, the magicians, and the soothsayers cannot declare to the king, but there is a God in heaven who reveals secrets, and he has made known to the king Nebuchadnezzar what will be in the latter days, your dream, and the visions upon your head were these.
And then he tells him.
And so this is an eschatological gift.
Daniel told this, the king, his dream and the interpretation, and it was reserved regarding the events of the last days.
And so, you know, there have been a lot of people who have been, and I've not always handled prophetic ministry right.
I've, you know, had to learn like a lot of other people, but I, you know, over the last number of years, I feel like the Lord has been so kind to me to be able to give me the true secrets of the heart.
It's kind of like what Paul says: if one who's an unbeliever comes in among you in a church service and you all speak in another tongues all at the same time, they'll think you're mad or barbarian.
But he said, if one gets up and reveals the secrets of the heart, they'll know of a surety that God is with you of a truth.
Amen.
Amen.
You know, we're living in times, Bonda, where we have a generation, and that's not just referring to one specific age, but a generation of people who are trying to visit psychics for prophetic words.
They're trying to visit medians to hear from relatives who have passed away.
You know, Pastor Chris Reed, it is important that we differentiate that.
What God is giving to the people when He gives a prophetic utterance is holy and it is pure.
It is not satanic, like what a medium would do or what a psychic would do.
But, you know, I want to ask you this question: why is it important to understand that when you give a prophetic word, it is vastly different from what a psychic would do or what a median would do?
Everything that is real and of God has a counterfeit version, and that's what I believe the psychics and the mediums are.
The problem is, there are a lot of people who have grown up in certain denominations.
And the truth is, and I love all Christians, all denominations, but people have built their theology mostly around what didn't happen in their church services instead of what the Bible says is available.
The word of knowledge, the word of wisdom, discernment, prophecy.
I mean, we even see in the book of Acts, if you remember, in chapter 16, verse 9, a vision appeared to Paul in the night, and a man of Macedonia was standing there urging him, saying, Come over to Macedonia and help us.
After seeing the vision, Paul and his companions prepared to leave for Macedonia.
You know, some people would be critical of, you know, saying, I, the Lord let me see into your dream, and this is what happened in your dream, and this is the time you woke up.
And by the way, I don't know you, but this is your name and your middle name.
Some people are like, doesn't that sound like something that a psychic would do?
Well, there may be the devil does have a counterfeit to the real.
Astro projection, for instance, witches and warlocks can try to astro project into someone's room or into someone's bedroom at night.
But only God can know your thoughts.
And this is how you will know that it's God and not the devil.
The devil can learn a lot about you based on your words and based on your actions, but we've always been told and heard that the devil can't read your mind.
The only one who can read your mind or your dreams, which are your, you know, your subconscious mind projecting images upon the screen of your imagination, only God can know your mind or reveal the secrets of the heart.
And that's why if you can tell someone what they were praying for, what they dreamed, what time they woke up and what happened in the dream, it has to be God.
It can't be the devil because only the devil can tell you what is.
He cannot know your mind or your heart.
And in reality, the psychics, the spiritualists, and the mediums are doing what they're doing.
And so people see that and they see something like what I'm doing on a regular basis.
They say, that's just a Christian psychic.
That's just a Christian medium.
Well, my response to that would simply be: don't build your theology around what didn't happen in your church, number one.
And number two, is it possible that we think that only psychics and mediums do those kind of things because they're the only ones that are doing it?
Vacuum that has been left because the church has lacked the prophets and the apostles to stand up and demonstrate these things like Daniel and Daniel chapter 2, or like the Apostle Paul, or like Jesus when he told Nathaniel his name,
when he saw him in a vision sitting under the fig tree, and it changed him from being, you know, can anything good come from Nazareth? to one word of knowledge of being told Jesus saw him sitting under a fig tree, one word of knowledge, he changed completely and said, You're the Christ, the king of Israel.
So the power of the true prophetic is knowing the secrets of the heart and knowing the thoughts and knowing what you dreamed.
And if it's a God dream, not just a normal dream, but if it's a God dream, God can reveal it to a prophetic person to show not only that God can reveal the secrets of the heart, but it will edify the body and it will help interpret to help bring someone into their purpose.
Remnant and Preparation 00:03:05
But the gifts are to edify the body.
Amen.
We absolutely believe that.
You know, Pastor, is there a need for a spiritual awakening amongst the church and amongst our nation here in 2024?
Oh, absolutely.
And, you know, I only know in part and prophesy in part.
Paul said the same.
I think when we all bring our parts together, that we make the pie whole.
And so I would simply say there is a need now more than ever.
If there is a Laodicean age, we're living in it.
And I think that there will be a remnant, and many of them are faithful supporters of your ministry watching right now.
There will be a remnant in the last days that will rise up and say, We are going to see a great outpouring, the greatest outpouring of the Holy Spirit in the history of the world, according to Joel 2, according to Acts 2.
At the same time, when the sons of the kingdom are coming to full maturity, when the wheat's coming to full maturity at harvest time, guess what?
The tares are coming to full maturity at harvest time at the same exact time.
So it really be the best and worst of times.
Isaiah 60 says, Darkness covers the earth and gross darkness the peoples, but the glory of the Lord will shine upon you and the nations will come to the brightness of your rising.
So as the world gets darker and darker, and it will, the remnant's going to get lighter and brighter.
Amen.
We've heard that many times, Mondo, that there is a remnant standing up and defending the faith that is Jesus Christ.
That is, there is only one way to heaven, that is Jesus Christ.
That is a principle of faith that we stand on here at the PTL television network, and we will never not stand on that principle because it is the truth and it's the fullness of the gospel, Mondo.
You know, God uses people to warn about a great outpouring coming and, of course, a great deception coming.
I think we have to be very clear that there's a remnant group of people that are praying and seeking and fasting.
Yet, at the very same time, God is bringing prophets into the forefront to warn us about the things that are coming for us to be prepared.
This ministry has been set to get you prepared.
We have been on the wall watching, praying, fasting, interceding for you, interceding for this nation.
Amen.
Yet, Marisela, it doesn't feel some days that people are paying attention to the warning signs because we get those calls.
Oh, I should have been preparing.
I should have, listen, I should have damages you more than anything else.
But when you prepare ahead of time, you make room to lead people into hope.
Affiliate Products Galore 00:11:24
Listen, we are a people, a peculiar people, the Bible calls us.
When you receive a word to be prepared, not everybody jumps and shouts.
But guess what?
When the time of need appears, they are so thankful.
This ministry, you have been involved in partnering with a lot of the ministries that have come to the program to offer this type of items.
Tell us what items do we have that this ministry has partnered with to get people prepared.
And you know, I do want to mention because maybe you're tuning in for the first time and you're wondering how can you be a part of giving to this ministry.
And so what we have done is we have launched our brand new affiliate program.
And what that means is we have found like-minded believers, those who are in business, other ministries that we can stand together.
We can link arms with one another.
And so even as we've gone through, you know what I love, Mondo's, even as we've gone through some of the very difficult things that we have endured through, you know, God always takes, he promises that in his word, that what the enemy has meant for evil, God will turn around for your good.
And so even as I stand here, what is represented, this is just a glimpse.
When you visit our website, the many products of decades that Pastor Jim Baker has believed in with the emergency food, up to 25-year shelf life, the Seychelles water filtration.
You know, I remember moments where he said, one bottle, getting a Seychelle water filtration system that will help you in your time of need, one bottle can save a life to drink healthy, clean water, know what is happening, the contaminations that we're hearing about in our news in the world right now, especially in the United States, what is taking place in our water systems.
But over a decade ago, Pastor Jim was able to find a solution for the church, for the body of Christ.
So what you see here is the brand new affiliate program.
For over a year now, we have partnered with Legacy Art Seeds.
They bring you heirloom seeds so that you can plant your gardens.
Pastor Jim has always said, have a way, know how to grow your food, know where your food is coming from.
Have the freedom of being able to plant your seeds, grow your own food, harvest them, share with your friends and family.
And so that's available on our website.
We've also partnered with Grid Down Chow Down.
This is up to 15-year shelf life of freeze-dried ground beef.
You might be saying, why do I need to think about that?
Because look at the cattle industry.
Look and see what's taking place.
They have warned and they are preparing the whole world, but they're preparing us that they will be transitioning the ability to even eat meat, to even know lab-grown meat is being talked about.
And so we have partnered with a Christian group who is based out of Oklahoma, and they are working with the cattle ranchers, and they're bringing you the Grid Down Chow Down, which is grass-fed, finished, freeze-dried raw beef.
That's up to 15-year shelf-life.
So I just look here.
I'm like, I look at freedom fighters.
Mike Lindau, he believes in this ministry.
He believes in the voice of the prophets.
And so as you know, great Mike Lindell, great friend to this ministry, who really said, Jim, what can I do to help you?
He was one of the very first that stood with us in our affiliate program.
He's offering his entire catalog, his pillows, his sheets.
He has so many different products.
But I look here and I say, this is just a glimpse of those who are standing with our ministry to bring the voice of the prophets into your home every single day.
You can call our toll-free number.
That's 1-888-988-1588.
Call our operators.
Let them know that you want to hear about the amazing products that are available to you.
Also, I would encourage you to go to our website.
That's jimbakershow.com.
Click on the red banner.
Shop our affiliates.
There's Health and Wellness with Divine Health.
There are the lion energy fuel list generators, the signal relief that help with pain as well.
And so there's so many different products there that are here to bless you, that are here to help you.
But every time that you shop on that affiliate page, you are helping.
You're saying, Pastor Jim Baker, I believe in the message and standing in the voice of the prophets.
And you are doing just that.
We want to bless you in return, but you are helping us to continue to broadcast the gospel of Jesus around the world.
Amen.
That's right.
And the monthly donors that we have, Monday, are partners who support us on a monthly basis at $5, $10.
We have some do $50, $100.
That is what helps sustain us, continue to broadcast the gospel of Jesus Christ around the world.
It's a blessing.
I mean, we have many friends, many partners, many people who come here to mornings and say, hey, we have supported you guys for many years and they will continue to support us.
And we want to say thank you because you're helping us continue the vision that God gave Pastor Jim Baker.
Absolutely.
Give us a call today, 1-888-988-1588 and become a partner today and link arm with us.
That's right.
Help us.
Together, we're going to be able to make a difference.
Remember the scripture, Matthew 18 and 19.
It's something that we will never forget because together we're going to be able to make a difference.
And standing with one another, understanding the time and the season that we're in right now is so critical.
As I'm watching the news, I'm realizing this network needs to stay on to bring you up to date from a biblical worldview.
What does the Bible have to say about earthquakes?
That's right.
What does the Bible have to say about the current culture?
What does the Bible have to say about this world events that are taking place right now?
And together, we're going to be able to do this and be able to expand this network.
And this show, the Jim Baker family show, we're working on expanding back to where we were once after that text came.
We started with 22 outlets all the way down to just two of them.
Amen.
Yet God has sustained us through your giving.
And what we want to do is call on you to help us expand to where we are because we were in Florida and many of our partners wondering, what happened to you in Florida?
We're coming back to you.
Just hold on.
Keep praying.
Keep sowing that seed because we're going to come back and invade where we were once.
We're building back.
Absolutely.
We have to do it.
But together, we're going to be able to be.
Listen, family needs one another.
Call that number right now, 1-888-988-1588.
Or better yet, visit the website, jimbakershow.com.
I believe we're entering a year and 2024 and entering also into 2025, a huge year of restoration for the body, a huge year of restoration for believers.
I'm talking family restoration, spiritual restoration, emotional restoration, mental health restoration.
I believe we're about to see that.
Now, Pastor Chris Reed, we still have you on with us.
I want to thank you for being on the Jim Baker Family Show here with us at the PTL television network.
I want to ask you this question.
It was just a few minutes left in the broadcast, four minutes left.
Why do you believe that the sons of God and the sons of the wicked are both coming to full maturity right now?
Well, because Jesus said that they would.
And the harvest is the end of the age.
The Bible clearly says that.
And it says that when the harvesting angels go forth, they will cast their sickle into the earth and reap a great harvest of souls.
That refers to the Pentecostal harvest, the one that was at summertime.
And then, of course, the grape harvest is the tabernacles harvest.
And that's every year in the fall.
And that's the harvest of judgment.
But right now in the church age, which is the Pentecostal harvest, the summer harvest, there's wheat and tares.
And they look just alike when they're full grown, except there's one difference.
The tears okay, will stay standing straight up, whereas the wheat will be so full of grain that they'll bow over under the weight of the grain.
And so humility and and and and, just being sincere before God and recognize it's not of works.
I can't boast.
It is my faith in Jesus Christ and him crucified and what he did at the cross, Putting my faith daily in that releases the grace of the Holy Spirit to work in my life.
It justified me and it sanctified me.
And ultimately, it can change your seed.
You know, in the end, the sons of the wicked one and the sons of God are measured by their fruit.
But I believe regeneration or change can come about by being born again.
And that's why we're seeing this, this all come together right at this same time.
And we're seeing the best of both worlds, but God reserves his best for last.
And I think some of the greatest vessels that have ever been used by God in human history are going to emerge in this hour, just like the world's given their best from the evil side.
I believe God's reserved his greatest warriors for this hour.
And I believe every person that's watching is reserved for that time.
Amen.
You know, Pastor, if there's somebody watching right now and they don't know Jesus Christ as their personal Lord and Savior, would you walk them through what they need to do to be eternally secured in Jesus Christ?
I would be glad to do that.
If you don't know Jesus and you have never felt born again or you've never made him your Savior, then I want you to pray this prayer with me.
And I just want you to mean it.
Just mean it to the best of your ability.
Heavenly Father, I come before you in the name of Jesus.
I am a sinner.
I have fell short of your word.
I am sorry for my sins.
I repent of all evil doing.
I need a savior.
Jesus, please come into my heart.
Please save me.
I believe in my heart that Jesus is risen from the dead.
And I confess with my mouth, Jesus is Lord.
In Jesus' name, amen.
Amen.
If you pray that prayer, go get in a good Bible-believing church.
Go get baptized.
Go tell everyone on Facebook, Twitter, X, whatever it's called nowadays, TikTok.
Hey, go post it on YouTube.
I am a believer in the only way to heaven, Jesus Christ.
I want to say welcome to the family.
We want to make sure we are broadcasting the fullness of the gospel of Jesus Christ around the world and bringing you incredible guests like Pastor Chris Reed.
Pastor, we want to thank you for being on the broadcast with us today.
Thank you for having me.
Thank you so much.
Amen.
As you tune off today and go about your regular scheduled business or as you lay your head down to go to sleep tonight, I want you to be comforted by this, knowing that God loves you.
He really does.
Bye-bye for today.
God bless you.
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