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June 19, 2024 - Jim Bakker Show
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The Jim Bakker Show With Rick Renner Day 2 (FULL EPISODE)
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Mountains of Ararat 00:14:14
Hello and welcome to the Jim Baker Family Show, coming to you from the village of Morningside, USA, nestled in the beautiful Ozark Mountains.
Today is day two with our special guest, Bible teacher, author, founder of the Moscow Good News Church, and president of the largest Russian-speaking Christian satellite network in the world, Pastor Rick Renner.
Our co-hosts today are Marty Sella Woodall, Mondo de la Vega, and Ricky Baker.
And now, live from Gray Street at Morningside USA, here are your hosts, Pastor Jim and Lori Baker.
Hello, everybody.
I'm there.
I'm so good to hear they're unknown, sir.
I know her well.
That's right.
That's my wife, Brooke Baker.
She has a wonderful voice, too.
She's beautiful.
I know.
We're trying to get her on the show.
She just got three little babies.
She plays channel and she sings.
That's right.
She does it all.
That's right.
We're trying to get her on the Jim Baker family show.
That's right.
All the kids are going to take over.
Amen.
Amen.
Since I've gotten old and wiser.
Old and wiser.
Isn't that what they say?
Honor the hoary-headed.
Do you feel like you're there?
Do you feel like you have the hoary head?
Speaking of wiser.
I believe the best days of Morningside are ahead.
Oh, very true.
You know, we've been doing so many good things here at Morningside.
So many people are waking up and saying, the Lord is calling me to, you know, leave where I'm going, whether it be Texas, Indiana, we're seeing Minnesota, then they're building homes here at Morningside.
Sooner or later, we're going to be running out of lots, but what a blessing it is that people are moving to Morningside.
It's the time to get in.
This is the time to be here.
That's right.
If they want to get here before it's sold out.
That's right.
You know, in Morningside, we only have one more outdoor unit here available at Morningside.
It's Condo 105.
If you're ever in the area, you want to come tour it, come look at it.
It's a beautiful unit right outside the front doors of Morningside, but we only have one left here in the main building on the outer lower level, which is a huge blessing.
And that one just came open.
That's right.
It did.
That's right.
And we love it.
We want people to move here to Morningside.
If you're curious about the Ozarks, I'm telling you, you need to look into it.
This is going to be a safe place.
But not only is this going to be a safe place, so many people have prophesied over this area.
Corey 10, boom, flew over this area.
Many others looked in this area and said, not only will this be a safe place to the end times, but this will be a place where the Holy Spirit pours out his love and his revival power in this area.
And they're talking right here in the Ozark Mountains.
So we're really excited to see that happen.
I'm excited to see what God has.
Yes.
You know, he told me I'd help us during the coming of the Lord.
And I believe it's near.
That's right.
And I believe that we who are ready are waiting for him to come.
Amen.
And I believe the signs, every single sign that Rick Renner has read from the Bible.
That's right.
We're involved in it somehow coming to pass.
We're seeing it right before our very eyes.
This book is a critical book for the generation which we're living in.
If you have the opportunity to get this, today is the day I wouldn't wait until tomorrow.
You can go to jimbakershow.com and go to our Destiny Image affiliate and you'll see it right there.
Or you can call us at 1-888-988-1588.
This book is called Signs You'll See Just Before Jesus Comes.
This is by our wonderful friend, a friend to the PTL television network, Pastor Rick Renner, who we have back on again with us today for a day two.
Amen.
Rick, we're so glad to have you here.
What is life like in Russia?
That's where you live.
I'm coming to you from my studio in Moscow.
Things are good here.
God is doing wonderful things here.
But I was so excited when I heard that you and Lori were going to be on the program today.
And I want to say another word about Morningside, if I may.
For anybody who's never visited Morningside, you need to go.
It is really amazing.
When you pull up to that property and you come up to the main facility and see all that beautiful land, it is such a precious place.
And I just want to encourage you, if you're looking for a place to go and spend time or to build, Morningside is such a wonderful place.
And look at the ministry that goes forth from that place.
Just wanted to say a word about that.
But things are good in Russia.
You know, my wife and I became Russian citizens, our whole family.
We've now been here 33 years.
Half of our life has been in Russia.
And we're so grateful that God called us here and that he's using us to bring the word of God to the Russian-speaking people.
And now to you in the United States.
Amen.
By the way, which we need.
We need missionaries in the United States of America right now.
Wow, Rick, I know you've been teaching the word for over 45 years.
And that time are some of the greatest lessons God has taught you.
What do you think some of them are?
Maybe you ought to do a book on it.
Lessons God has taught you.
Well, I've written a few books.
Yes, but you know, I have lost track, but I think about 50.
Wow.
Wow.
It's amazing.
But you know, I wrote our autobiography called Unlikely.
And really the message of our autobiography and our life is that if you will do what God tells you to do, you will enter a life of adventure.
So my friends, if you're listening and you feel like you're kind of living in a black and white world, step into a life of obedience and your life will become full color.
There's nothing like the life of obedience.
And I'm telling you, you'll never be sorry that you did what the Lord told you to do.
And if you're standing at a juncture today where you're wondering, should I do this or should I not do this?
Quit asking that question.
Say yes.
Say yes.
Something wonderful is waiting for you if you'll just say yes.
Amen.
You continue to travel around the world from Russia, don't you?
We travel all the time.
In fact, I was just in Turkey.
I just did a full documentary on Noah's Ark.
And I just wrote a new book on Noah's Ark because Noah's Ark is really laying in the lower mountains of Ararat.
It is there.
And you guys, what is amazing is that Israel was established as a nation in May 1948.
The same month there was an earthquake in the lower mountains of Ararat.
And when that earthquake took place, it shook all the dirt off of the top of Noah's Ark and the top of it became exposed.
Israel established the same month.
The ark reappearing the same month.
It was like God was blaring a sign to the world, hey, you've come to the end of the age.
And just like there was a judgment in the beginning, there's another judgment that's coming again.
And Jim and Lori and all of you, I just wish I could pick you up and take you to see Noah's Ark.
It is amazing.
It is amazing.
It is 300 cubits long, just like the Bible says, but it's not on Mount Ararat.
That's a mistake.
The Bible doesn't say that.
It says it came to rest in the mountains of Ararat.
And there are so many ancient voices who wrote about the location of Noah's Ark.
I don't know why people have been looking in the wrong place for all this time, because if you go to the lower mountains of Ararat, it's laying right there.
Been all over it, just filmed a documentary there.
And, you know, we're talking about my book, Signs You'll See, just before Jesus Comes.
Well, there's one more sign I didn't put in this book, and that is Noah's Ark.
Jesus said in Matthew chapter 24, verse 37: But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of Man be.
So, according to Jesus, whatever was taking place in the world in the days of Noah before the flood, so it shall also be, or it's going to be an exact replication again at the end of the age, just before the coming of the Son of Man.
I think this is really an important message.
It's really well, a little more.
Is the ark to be discovered before Jesus comes back?
Well, it has been discovered.
Yes.
And, you know, it's, Brother Jim, when you get there, it is so huge, it's nearly two football fields long.
When you're on top of it, it's overwhelming.
But when you see it from the angle of a drone, there is no question that you are looking at a ship.
And in fact, all the newest scans, the ground-penetrating radar, everything has affirmed, affirmed, affirmed.
It is a man-made structure.
And listen, it has three floors.
It has compartments.
It has rooms.
And the newest analysis shows the central corridor of the ark is still empty.
If you could get down to it, you could walk through part of it because it's still vacant as it originally was.
It's amazing.
And when you walk the sides of the ark, you can look up and you can see the ribs of the ark beginning to protrude up through the ground.
Well, the ark was covered by dirt for about 2,000 years.
It's a mudslide.
There was a lot of mud in the flood.
But when that earthquake occurred in 1948 and then another one in 1959, it shook all the dirt away from the ark, and now it's just standing there.
Of course, it's deteriorated.
It's ruins, but it really is Noah's Ark.
It's amazing.
It's right on the border of Iran in the lower mountains of Ararat, about 18 miles across the valley from Mount Ararat.
I've been there, I've spent a lot of time there, and wow, what a sign it is that we've sailed to the end of the age.
Amazing.
It is so amazing.
Why don't we hear more about it?
Well, people are starting to talk about it.
And, you know, I've written a new book on this subject.
I want to come back if you'll have me.
And I want to talk about this book when it's released.
But, I mean, people are beginning to talk about it.
Scientists, the History Channel, the Science Channel, Discovery, they've all been there.
They've all been documenting it because now it's very clear that really is a big ship.
Somebody said, well, how do you know it's Noah's Ark?
Well, let me ask you, do you know any other ship 300 cubits long that happens to be in the mountains of Ararat?
There's not a nearby sea.
What other ship could it be?
It's Noah's Ark.
It's amazing.
Amazing.
I know this sounds strange, but would you lay your hand on the Bible and say that?
Would I lay hands on the Bible and say that?
Lay your hand on the Bible and say, that's Noah's Ark.
It is Noah's Ark.
I believe it.
I believe it 100%.
It is Noah's Ark.
I know you're a man of integrity.
And so I know you would have to believe that it is Noah's Ark.
Well, would I like to go there?
Can you take an old man there?
It's kind of hard to get there.
Is it hard to get there?
It's a little difficult.
A little difficult to get there.
Did you have to climb up to get there?
You have to do some climbing, but Lori, you would have been proud of Denise.
Oh, I would have been proud of her.
I'm telling you, she was like a mountain climber climbing all over that ark.
Did she climb up to the ark?
She did.
We all did.
That's awesome.
Our classy Denise.
Did you take pictures of it?
We made a full documentary.
Wow.
Amen.
Could we show it on the show sometime?
Would love to.
Because I know people want to see it.
Absolutely.
How long has the ark been there?
How many years has it been?
Do you know?
Probably about 4,300 years.
It actually landed.
It landed a little higher right by the Silk Road.
But over all these years, it moved down that mud flow to where it is now.
And everything moves all around it every spring because it's a mud flow, but the ark never moves.
It's not a natural object.
It's a man-made object.
Cannot Deny These Signs 00:02:21
And if you could just see the scans, you see the complete hull of the ship under the dirt.
It's a ship.
But you know, we're talking about my book, Signs You'll See Just Before Jesus Comes.
And by the way, thank you for having me.
I'm so glad to be with your family.
It's an honor.
This book really talks about many signs we're going to see before Jesus comes.
There are so many signs.
And I believe that the reappearance of Noah's Ark is one of the signs, but I didn't mention it in this book, unfortunately.
It's in the next book.
But Jesus enumerated a long list of signs we're going to see just before the end of the age.
And by knowing what Jesus said, we become alert and we become informed.
We don't have to be afraid.
We become informed.
We know what's going to happen.
We know what we're going to see.
And Jesus was so good to prepare us.
Yes.
Yes, he was.
We are in Matthew 24.
We're walking on this.
That's right.
Aren't we?
Absolutely.
Every sign.
When I look at the list that Brother Renner put together, I got my computer open and I'm watching the news headlines, not just today, but the last several years, even decades.
We are there.
You can't.
Listen, you can't deny where we are right now.
And the things that are happening are happening so fast and the acceleration of events are developing.
Yet when you look at the signs, we are there.
You can't deny it.
You got to be a fool to deny where we are today.
Now, Rick, there were some more signs that you didn't mention on our show yesterday.
In Matthew chapter 24, Jesus gives this list of signs.
And some people say, oh, these things have always been happening.
Ideology Against Ideology 00:03:47
But listen exactly to what Jesus said.
For example, look at chapter 24, verse 4.
Jesus answered and said unto them, take heed that no man deceive you.
Then you get down to verse 6, and you shall hear.
He was speaking futuristically about the end of the age.
You shall hear of wars and rumors of wars.
See that you be not troubled, for all these things must come to pass.
Verse 7, for nation shall rise against nation.
Guess what?
The word nation is the Greek word ethnos.
It's where you get the word for ethnicity or ethnic groups.
And guys, you know, we thought that we had got past all the ethnic squabbles and race, race struggles, but here we are again.
It's like it's erupted.
It's just simmering and boiling like never before.
In fact, it may be worse now than it's ever been.
And then Jesus said, and you shall hear or see kingdom against kingdom.
What in the world does that mean?
Well, the word kingdom is the Greek word basileia.
And the word basileia describes a sphere of influence.
And in modern day language, you could actually translate it ideology against ideology.
Welcome to the end of the age.
Look what we're facing today.
Look how Democrats and Republicans treat each other.
It is ideology against ideology.
We are living in the day of incivility.
I mean, the day when people could walk across the aisle and shake hands and at least be gentlemen, that day is gone.
People are raging.
And also very interesting in verse 6, when it says wars and rumors of wars.
In verse 7, nations shall rise against nation and kingdoms shall rise against kingdom.
In Greek, it is the word epi, a little preposition which carries the idea of a crushing superiority.
In other words, this is not just going to be a little disagreement, but it's going to be one ethnic group trying to decimate the other and exert their superiority.
One ideology wanting to decimate the other ideology, the other group.
This is not just a mere disagreement.
It is raging incivility.
And Jesus said shall, shall, shall.
He was pointing to the very end of the age.
And we are seeing that, you know, 50 years ago, you remember, people were civil.
Even people who didn't get along or agree on everything, at least they were kind and respectful.
It's gone.
It's just gone.
And we are living in the day of kingdom rising against kingdom or ideology against ideology, ethnic group against ethnic group.
And according to Jesus, it's going to simmer and simmer and simmer and get more intense as we come to the end of the age.
And that's why verse 8 is so important.
Jesus said, these are the beginning of birth pains.
The Greek word uden, which describes the birth pains that a woman has before she gives birth.
Well, I've never given birth to a baby.
Thank you, Jesus.
But my wife has, and I've watched it.
And you know, when a birth pain first begins, a woman may wonder, was that a pain?
Was that a birth pain?
But as time goes by, she doesn't have to ask that question anymore because she's no longer wondering.
Perilous Times at the Port 00:03:42
She knows she's having contractions.
And then they get more intense, more intense, and harder and harder and closer and closer.
Finally, you get into transition.
And when you're in transition, you can't say, I've changed my mind.
I'm not going to have this baby.
It's too late.
You are in transition.
And right now, we're in transition.
That's where we are.
And we're leaving one age and we're entering into another age.
This age we're in is ending with birth pains.
It's going to give birth to the next age.
That's where we are.
And I think it's very helpful if you know where you are.
Wow.
What did Paul say about the end of the days in 2 Timothy 3:1?
Well, it's one of my favorite verses, Brother Jim.
In 2 Timothy chapter 3, verse 1, he said, This know also that in the last days, perilous times shall come.
This Greek is really specific.
It says emphatically, categorically, know this.
You must know this.
Specifically, that in the last days, and the word last is the Greek word eschatos.
It's where you get the word eschatology, which is the study of end times or last days.
But it was a navigational term which described the very last port for a ship.
So if you've sailed to this port, there's not another port.
You've gone as far as you can go.
So you could actually interpret the verse like this: this know also that in the last days, or when time has sailed to the last port and no more time remains for the journey, you've come to the end.
You'll know it because perilous times shall come.
Shall come in Greek is the word in histomy.
It describes you being in the middle of something.
The word end means to be in.
The word histomy describes something standing all around you.
So at the very end of the age, you'll know you've come to the end of the age because you're going to feel you're stuck in the middle of something that's standing all around you.
And what is standing all around you, this verse says, will be perilous times.
And the word perilous, the Greek word calipos, describes dangerous times, threatening times.
And the only other time that word perilous is used in the entire New Testament is in Matthew chapter 8, verse 28, where the Bible says Jesus sailed to the other side to the country of the Gatarenes, and there were two demon-possessed men who came out.
And the Bible says those two men were so demonized, they were exceedingly fierce.
That's the same word perilous.
Those two men were so threatening that the verse says no one was willing to pass by that way.
There was a road, and people were afraid to take that road because the demonized men would come charging out of the tombs.
They posed a threat.
And so those men became an impasse.
We'll carry that over into 2 Timothy 3, verse 1.
And Paul is really saying, when you have sailed to the end of the age, here's how you'll know it.
Appearance of Monsters 00:08:20
When there's no time left for the journey, you will look around you and say, What in the world has happened?
Look around us.
Everywhere we look, we see crazy stuff on every hand.
What in the world is going on?
And people will feel that they have hit an impasse and they won't know how to get through it.
And that's where we step in.
That's our opportunity to help them because we can help them get through it.
But that's what Paul said it's going to be like at the end of the age.
And by the way, I cover a lot of that also in this book, Signs You'll See just Before Jesus Comes.
Order this book today and order it for your uncle, your aunts, all your relatives, even the ones you don't talk to.
Amen.
Get them this book and send it to them.
Say, this is my gift to you.
Amen.
And maybe you'll get them in heaven.
That's right.
Maybe you should send one to your pastor.
Amen.
If he doesn't preach.
If you don't hear him preach Matthew 24 or Revelation, you might just want to send one to him.
That's right.
Go to our website.
Nana, how do you get there?
Absolutely.
Yes, you can go to our website, that's jimbakershow.com.
And we've partnered with Destiny Image, who is the publisher of this incredible book.
They are shipping the books directly to your home.
So you can order it there, or you can also call our toll-free number here at Morningside.
That's 1-888-988-1588.
Let them know that you want to order the brand new book, Signs You'll See Just Before Jesus Comes.
And, Dad, I want to also just, for everyone who's watching, I want to encourage you that there is a movement of God happening within our younger generation.
There is such a hunger and a thirst.
But you know what they're most interested about right now is this very topic.
I cannot tell you the countless amount of times and opportunities that young people, siblings, family members, friends who have come, they say, we want to know the signs of the times.
And the question that they ask is, does the Bible tell us what would be happening during these times?
And so I love it.
I believe that this is a tool for every single one of us.
But I want to encourage you that if you have someone in your life and maybe they've not really studied the word of God, but they're interested, there is a hunger, there's a thirst.
God is moving.
The Holy Spirit is moving during this time.
And so this is a book that will help them.
Of course, I love every book that Pastor Rick does.
It goes into details with the Greek.
He breaks it down with the Greek.
Every word is translated with such clarity to help us understand what was Jesus speaking of during Matthew 24 when he was sharing about the events that would take place.
All of that is broken down in this book.
Of course, mom, as you've mentioned, at the very end of every chapter, there's a section called Think About It.
And he has you go into questions.
So also, I would say use this as a study guide, as a study group with your Bible studies.
It's incredible to dive deeper into the word of God.
But you can order this book today by going to our website or calling that toll-free number, 1-888-988-1588.
Rick, I was reading on page 25 of your book where you said after the rapture occurs, a time of intense agony called the tribulation will rage across the planet until Christ physically returns with 10,000 of his saints to establish his millennium reign.
And that's in June 14.
Could you explain that a little bit?
Well, that period is right in front of us.
There's a moment when the rapture of the church is going to take place.
And when the rapture of the church takes place, the Bible tells us in 2 Thessalonians chapter 2 that the one who restrains will be removed.
The Greek is really interesting.
The King James Version says the restrainer will be taken out of the way.
The Greek says, removed from the middle of everything.
It really portrays the church.
We're everywhere.
We're in the government.
We're in the schools.
We're everywhere.
But a moment's coming when we are going to be removed.
And when we are removed, just imagine the evil that will flood in.
I mean, evil's wanting to flood in right now.
It's trying.
But we as the church, even with all of our flaws, even with all of our hang-ups, we are so powerful.
God is in the church that we are holding back evil.
And you know, Brother Jim, you said in the previous program, Christians need to vote.
You are right.
We have a restraining influence.
God has set us here at this time to hold back evil.
But when we are evacuated, when we're removed, a lot of people don't believe in that anymore, but the Bible very clearly teaches the rapture of the church.
When we are evacuated, suddenly there's going to be nothing to hold back that evil.
It's going to flood in.
That will be the darkest time in the history of the world.
But you know, can I mention two more signs in this book that I think are just fascinating?
And that is in Luke chapter 21, verse 11, Jesus said something that scholars and translators didn't know what to do with.
So they never translated it correctly because it's so strange.
So when you come to Luke 21, verse 11, Jesus says, and great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilence.
Okay, here it is.
Two signs which are a mystery.
And fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven.
What in the world are fearful sights?
Well, in Greek, it is the word phobotron from the word phobos, which is the word fear.
But when it becomes the word phobotron, it only has one meaning.
Jesus knew that.
That word, phobotron, here translated, fearful sights, is the word, are you ready?
Monsters.
Jesus literally prophesied, as you come to the end of the age, you will see the appearance of monsters.
All right, I don't want to be offensive, but let me ask you a theoretical question.
If you could pick up someone from 100 years ago, like a time traveler, and bring them into the present age, and they look around and see people that are altering their bodies to change their sex, or people so covered with tattoos and piercings, and they would feel like, where are all these monsters from?
And I don't want to be offensive because Jesus loves everybody, but they really feel like they're surrounded by monsters.
And Jesus said, at the end of the age, you're going to be surrounded by monstrous things.
It could also involve transhumanism.
But then Jesus added the next statement.
And there shall be great signs from heaven.
The word from is the little preposition apo, and it describes something descending directly from the heavens.
And so if you're going to translate what Jesus said and really translate it correctly, Jesus said at the end of the age, number one, there's going to be the appearance of monsters.
And number two, things are going to be descending from the heavens.
Now, I'm not telling you that this is about UFOs, but it's very interesting that we're now living in a time when even the Congress and the Senate are having hearings about things that are descending out of the heavens that are not ours.
They've come from somewhere else.
And Jesus said these two things would be indicative you've come to the end of the age, the appearance of monsters and things descending out of the heavens.
Partnerships And Affiliates 00:06:08
I know that you recently had L.A. Marzuli on your program.
I watched it.
It was really good.
He's brilliant.
And, you know, it seems that Jesus really did mean that we're going to see some very strange spiritual things appearing in the end of the age.
And it may be that we're already beginning to see them.
Anyway, that's also in this book, Signs You'll See Just Before Jesus Comes.
Incredible.
Wow.
You've kind of ordered the book.
Yes.
I just go to order to our media product today.
Yes, that's right.
Yeah, they can go to our website, that's jimbakershow.com and click on Destiny Image.
As you guys know, we have been working with incredible affiliates.
And what that means is our affiliates allow you, which is our publisher, Destiny Image, to order the book directly from the publisher on their website and they will ship it directly from their warehousing and factories.
Of course, you can also call our toll-free number.
That's 1-888-988-1588, and we can place the order for you as well.
But you can order the book right now, it's available.
Wow.
Wow.
It's so amazing that we have this affiliate program.
Yes.
And when people order products, they come directly from the manufacturer.
Yeah, from the publisher or the manufacturer, the businesses.
Absolutely.
It's really, yeah, because we got behind, and we apologize for that, but I believe we're caught up.
Yes, but we wanted to know people were putting new systems so we won't get behind.
That's right.
And you know, Dad, I want to say it's been incredible to watch the affiliate program just grow.
God has utilized this to bless the voice of the prophets.
We have incredible, there's businesses, there's ministries, there's publishers who have partnered with us here at the PTL network because they believe in helping us to be a part of broadcasting the gospel, bringing the voice of the prophets, that this would be a platform.
And every time, Dad, that's what they share with us.
They say, we remember when Pastor Jim said that this ministry would be the platform for the gospel to be preached into all the world.
And so, of course, as you visit our affiliates, you go to jimbakershow.com.
We're adding more.
Every single month, we have new affiliates, but we're looking for products that will benefit our partners that will help you to be prepared.
You know, our ministry, we're passionate about being prepared with your food, 20-year up to 30-year shall fly food, your water filtration, your gardening seeds.
You know, from the practical sense, of course, from a spiritual standpoint as well, with bringing you books, Bibles, teachings that will help you spiritually as well.
And so when you go to our website, jimbakershow.com, you are helping to support this ministry, the voice of the prophets, so that we can continue to bring incredible men and women of God to preach the gospel during these times.
You know, what this allows us to do as well is partner with other Christian ministers and support other Christian businesses.
Something I've been saying for many times, you know, I sound like a broken record, but I'll say it many more times: is Christians need to go out of their way to support Christian businesses.
Christian believers need to go out of their way to unify church bodies together.
We have to stand together last day.
That's right.
So this is what the affiliate program allows us to do.
Lori has a question.
I'm just going over your book, Rick.
I love just on page 17, you have a complation of end time signs.
And just this in itself, you said, Jesus prophesied that just before the final wrap-up of this age, we would see widespread deception, signs in the heavens, economic instability,
great seismic activity, legal prosecution, legal prosecution of Christians, warring political systems, famines, wars, persecution, pestilences, commotions, ethnic conflicts.
What was your comment about that, Rick?
Well, Jesus prophesied all of that.
I want to ask you, are we seeing all that today?
Yes, absolutely.
You know, there may have been times in the past when you saw some of it, but right now we're seeing all of it at one time.
All of it at one time.
Before we go any further, can I say a word to your partners?
Denise and I have, we've known the Bakers for a long, long time.
And I want to speak to you as partners and tell you that Maricella and Ricky and Mondo and Jim and Lori, they're the real deal.
They do this just for one reason.
They believe that God has called them to help you and to help others.
And anything that you can do to help them will help them fulfill their assignment.
And I want to say thank you for being a partner with their ministry.
Amen.
God bless you.
Thank you so much for that kind words.
And, you know, we throw back.
We appreciate so much Rick Renner and his, I mean, at least 50 books.
Amazing.
And he's a writer.
Yes.
And he does beautiful work.
He takes the complicated and makes it where we can understand.
And I got to go back to Piggyback to what you said, because every time I take Matteo to his practices, there's one subject he wants to talk about, and that is the end of the age.
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He wants to talk about prophecy and where we are.
As I'm reading through this book, I'm realizing, you know, he's going to be 14 in the next few days.
Young people today are battling one of the greatest battles than any other generation has battled because of technology and the mass of information that is coming from every direction.
Yet, we at home have the spiritual and moral responsibility to guide them to understand biblically what does this event mean.
And I want to tell you something.
Most kids don't even realize what's going on.
Most people don't care what is going on.
Then there's people that do care and they do want to know, but they're not getting the information from their pulpits.
They're not getting it from their churches.
They're not getting it from the evangelists.
They're not, listen, time has moved on, yet the word of God has never changed.
But the church is trying to mimic the culture so much in order to be liked.
Yet it is the opposite of what the gospel teaches.
I'm reading and seeing on television, in 10 years, they expect most of our jobs to be taken by artificial intelligence.
Is that right?
Well, listen, if you travel through the airports right now, I've watched with my own eyes.
Most airports today are functioning without people.
A lot of the, where you go and get your coffees and you get your drinks, they don't have people working in there anymore.
It's all virtual.
It's all you walk in and you check out and it reads your card with your phone.
I mean, things have changed.
The development of technology is changing everything.
A friend of mine owns several McDonald's around this nation and went to a McDonald's convention.
And I got to tell you, the future, and there's several McDonald's already that are functioning with robots.
Artificial intelligence.
This is the future.
This is where we are.
This is where we're going.
But yet the gospel doesn't change.
It hasn't changed.
The power of the Holy Spirit hasn't changed.
And I want to tell you something.
It's still changing life.
It's still transforming life.
It still works to this day.
But we as pastors, evangelists, teachers, Sunday school teachers, we must get back to the book.
We have to have this type of materials to help us.
If we don't know it, then get this book and begin to read it and teach it.
Because just like you said, mom, pastors need help today.
You go to seminaries today.
I spoke at a seminary a few months ago, and I can tell you that they are not teaching the biblical principles that once held the church together.
They're teaching you how to create more lighting and how to have social media and how to attract this and how to attract that.
Yet, the very foundation is not being taught completely word by word.
And it reminds me, I always tell this on the show, but you remember, mom, when dad used to say, we have to get back and put the Bible back into context because if you get away from it, you're going to teach a point here and a point there and a lot of bull in between.
That's right.
You remember saying that?
Well, guess what?
Guess what?
That day is here.
There's a lot of bull being taught that people don't understand.
So when they hear the true word, it's like a new fountain.
It's like new bread, it's new water.
And I want to tell you something.
If I was you, I will order a baker dozen of this book right now.
That's a great idea.
Order a baker's dozen.
I don't care whatever you got to do.
If you're saving for a trip, hold that trip.
There is nothing greater than having that word that can change someone's life for eternity.
Call the number right now: 1-888-988-1588, and order a Baker's dozen today.
That's a great word.
I like Baker's dozens.
Yes.
That's 13, by the way.
That's right.
If you're old enough to hear them, but that's what it is.
But the last and the greatest final sign that at the end of the present age is that world preachers in all the world will almost everyone have access to communication.
So, how close are we to this last sign?
That the gospel will be preached all over the world.
The gospel will be preached in all the world.
Well, Jesus said in Matthew 24:14, and this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world.
Guess what?
That word world doesn't really mean every island.
It means in the civilized or the sophisticated or the connected world.
It's describing technology.
And it says, For witness unto the nations, and then, and the Greek says, in that very moment, then shall the wrap-up of the age finally come.
Well, you know what?
I can't talk about preaching to the end of the ages, to the end of the world, without talking about Jim Baker.
Because, Brother Jim, you're a legend.
During the break, I said to one of my guys here in Moscow, I said, You're looking at a living legend.
What you did with technology and satellites to take the gospel to the end of the earth, you know, you really set the stage for the rest of us.
And I want to say thank you.
We're walking in your steps.
But today, because of technology, the gospels, you can have access to the gospel all over the world.
I was recently in Vietnam and I was driving out through the rice fields where people are working behind an old ox cart, just like they did probably 500 years ago.
And there in the middle of those rice patties with an ox and that old wooden cart was a woman speaking on a telephone.
I thought, now that is amazing.
Telephones are everywhere.
There are today almost 7 billion mobile phones.
And because of that, people have access to the internet.
And for the first time in human history, the world is so connected that even if they don't listen to the gospel, even if they don't believe it, the availability of the gospel is there if they want to hear it.
So it's the first time Matthew 24, verse 14 has the potential to be fulfilled because the world is connected.
And now the gospel can be heard all over the planet.
That's us.
That's our generation.
And Brother Jim, thank you for the role that you have played in setting the stage for the rest of us.
Thank you so much.
And Lord, we ask you for money.
We ask you for anointing.
We ask you for courage to seize the moment.
Amen.
Amen.
I appreciate you so much.
Did Jesus, this is kind of a silly question, but did he say anything about UFOs when he discussed the last days?
Can you say that one more time?
Did he discuss UFOs?
UFOs.
He's talking about UFOs.
When he discussed the last days.
You know, we looked at Luke 21, 11, where Jesus said, signs coming out of the heavens.
I personally believe that people are seeing things.
Maybe they are fallen angels.
Maybe they're demons.
I don't know what they are.
But Jesus said at the very end of the age, things are going to be descending from the heavens.
And by the way, that's what was happening before the flood.
Before the flood, celestial beings were coming into the earth and interacting with humans who were becoming pregnant by them and giving birth to giants and monstrous things.
We're seeing a replication of all of that.
Jesus was absolutely accurate in what he said.
I said in this studio and watched my television, the congressional and senatorial hearings, where they talked to people in government who decided to remove the lid and discuss UFO and UAP appearances.
These things, not all of them are real, but some of them are real.
And Jesus said we would see some of these things at the end of the age.
I don't know what they are.
It's a mystery.
But Jesus said that it would happen at the end of the age.
It's happening.
You know, it's one of those signs we're seeing.
And there's a book written by Pastor Rick Renner.
If you're watching right now, you need to pick up your phone and call 1-888-988-1588 or go to jimbakershow.com and find our destiny image affiliate.
This book is critical for the times we're living in.
It's a roadmap.
It truly is.
People need to know the signs for the direction they're going, for the destination they plan on ending up on.
And signs you'll see just before Jesus comes by Pastor Rick Renner.
I'm telling you, this is a book for this generation.
What did Jesus say about Noah being repeated at the end of the age?
Was there anything in the Bible?
Because I kept hearing that.
Well, you know, in Matthew 24, 37, Jesus said very explicitly, as it was in the days of Noah, the Greek says hooper, husper, exactly as it was in the days of Noah, so shall also be the days before the coming of the Son of Man.
So whatever was happening before the flood, it's going to be replicated again.
And before the flood, there was massive exponential population growth.
There is again today.
Before the flood, there were Satan clubs, Satan clubs in schools.
Who would have imagined that?
We're seeing a repeat of things that happened before the flood.
What about the weaponizing of the court system against Christians?
Did Jesus talk about that?
Jesus did.
He said that they'll drag you into the synagogues.
That's in Luke chapter 21.
Yes.
And so people think that's a religious context.
But in Israel, the synagogues were also the court system.
And Jesus was literally saying at the end of the age, they're going to drag you into the courts and they're going to prosecute you.
Well, think about bakers who have been prosecuted for not making cakes for LGBT groups.
Or how about parents who no longer have a voice in whether their children are their birth gender?
Or now parents are being prosecuted if they try to enforce their faith on their children.
Rights are being taken away from parents.
I mean, Christians are not being cooked in pots like they formerly were in some countries.
But in a very sophisticated, high-level way, lawfare, warfare, it's all coming against believers in our age.
And they're trying to unseat believers and make them loose their grip and quit being so narrow-minded to stick with what they believe.
But you know what?
It's okay for us to be narrow-minded.
We just have one way of believing.
We love everybody, but we don't make room for a bunch of beliefs that do not agree with the scripture.
And if that puts us at odds with the rest of the world, well, then so be it.
That's just the way it's going to be.
It happened in the early church, and the power of the Holy Spirit will help us.
That's right.
There's a path to heaven and it's narrow.
And few who be who find it, you have to consistently be searching for this path, consistently striving towards righteousness, towards holiness, towards what God wants us to be looking for.
That is how we can ensure we stay on the path.
If you're looking towards the world for a roadmap of how this world works or how to navigate the journey, then friend, you're going to be finding yourself on a wide path, just following the crowd.
You must continue to find intimacy with the Holy Spirit, and the Holy Spirit will direct your foot.
I want to address this situation with the president being on trial.
That's right, yep.
Our former President Donald Trump.
Former President Donald Trump.
And he was found guilty of crime that was, nobody knows for sure what the crime is.
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Yep, 34 counts.
That's right.
Yeah, he was found guilty on all counts, which, you know, you go in any court system, get 12 random people to agree on 34 topics 100% unanimously.
That's a miracle in and of itself right there.
So the fact that we saw that was just, you know, it's getting, like Pastor Renner said, it's getting to be outlandish to the point where it's weaponized against believers.
And we're going to see more and more of that.
Why?
Because the Bible says we're going to see more and more of that.
Matthew says it very clearly.
Luke chapter 21 says it very clearly that these are all signs of the times that we're seeing that.
You know, signs we'll see just before Jesus comes.
These are all signs we'll see.
When we built Heritage USA, we built the largest television satellite ministry the world has ever seen.
That's right.
You were the pioneer of Christian television.
And we helped elect presidents.
We helped to elect congressmen, senators.
I mean, you guys were putting, that's right, presidential candidates.
And president.
That's right.
That was one of the greatest presidents Of the world was Ronald Reagan.
And I've been in his home.
I've been in his office so many times.
And he was a man who really loved our country.
He really did.
And we stood with him.
And I think that's one of the reasons they came for me is that they knew we helped elect Ronald Reagan.
That's right.
And we had power with our audience because we had millions.
You unified the Christian body to go out and do something.
What they did was they went out.
And they took legally or in the court system, they took everything from us in the courts.
Yes.
It was legal warfare.
And so they got the postal service.
That's right.
Yeah.
All the services came against us.
That's right.
And then the FBI redid our shows to make me lie.
That's right.
They twisted it, but they found you to be innocent through all of that, though you did spend the last trial.
That's right.
They retried.
Most people have heard about my last trial that I won that they said that the FBI was wrong and they were evil and did what they did.
Amen.
But I'm old and I talk too much, but that's how it happened.
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That's true.
And that was the biggest ministry in the world.
We need to write the real book on this.
That showed how it could be destroyed by man.
That's right.
You lived a true Christian example even through the hardest time of your life.
You keep quoting, Pastor, you keep quoting Luke 21.
It says that they will turn you over to the synagogues, but there in verse 14, it says, therefore, make up your minds to not know what you're going to say ahead of time.
Why?
Because the Holy Spirit will give you words that your adversary will not be able to reject.
The Holy Spirit will give you the words that you need.
And you chose in the moments that you could have went in, and I've heard this from many different guests in the green room.
You could have went in and you could have thrown people under the bus and proven yourself not guilty on all these accounts.
But what you chose to do was to be a friend who loves at all time.
You chose to take all of that on yourself so that other people wouldn't have to go through a trial, through a tribulation, go to prison.
You took that upon yourselves.
And what does the Lord do?
He pulls you out of prison 40 years early and he finds you not guilty on all of those accounts.
But that's what he does.
He's restored you back to this.
And now we have Morningside USA, a place where people are moving to, a place where people feel the Holy Spirit every time they step on our grounds.
Why?
Because the Lord is in the business of restoration.
And I believe as the end times coming, we will see trial, but we will see a very, very large load of restoration.
And I'm talking to someone out there, restoration of the family, too.
If you have someone who is lost, you have a prodigal son, a prodigal daughter, a prodigal grandson, granddaughter.
There is restoration coming to your home, friend.
You are about to see an outpouring of the Holy Spirit like you have never seen before.
It says in the end times that the Holy Spirit will pour out his spirit on all men are flesh, that the young men will see visions, the old men will dream dreams.
And I believe we are about to enter that.
Yes, there's a lot of trial and tribulation coming, but friend, we're living in the end time.
What does that mean?
There's an end time harvest coming.
Friends, it's time to get on your spiritual work clothes, pick up your spiritual shovels and farm equipment and get out there because the harvest is ready to be brought in.
Amen.
Amen.
My main goal today is saying you'll see Jesus before Jesus comes.
The signs that you're going to see.
Amen.
I want you to get this book.
Give me that book.
Let me know.
That's it.
It's a good book.
Just before Jesus comes, all the things Jesus said had to take place.
That's right.
And you know what?
They've all taken place.
Right.
That's right.
They're taking place.
You know, we see this whole entire.
I'm looking at Luke 21 right here.
I'm just reading through it.
I mean, I have so many highlights, marks.
It's this entire page of writing and an entire another half page of writing.
And then it says this in verse 27.
Then they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with great power and great glory.
But when these things begin to take place, stand up, lift your heads, because your redemption draws near.
Friend, we have a God who has redemption.
Amen.
Rick Renner, I should say.
What a man of God.
And he really is one of the greatest writers of our time.
Very true.
And you need to get his book.
It's, I'm going to, I think it's going to be the number one book.
I pray.
Amen.
Because people need to read it just before Jesus comes.
What takes place?
You're going to find out and you realize we're living in that day.
That's right.
We're truly living in those moments.
Well, I come back for today, but I want to thank you for taking the show and doing everything with it.
We're honored.
And I want people to stand with you.
Amen.
And we have the greatest guests in the world coming on this show.
Amen.
I just want to take this last minute.
We just have a few moments.
I want to take this last minute to honor you.
You have been a pioneer of Christian television beyond anybody's wildest imagination.
When people said it cannot be done, you looked and said, The Holy Spirit told me yes, so I'm going to build it.
I want to say thank you for building Christian television because millions of people are going to come into the kingdom because of what you started, because of your faithfulness to the journey.
We get to come in and continue to push and row the boat in the right direction.
But you built the boat, you built the oars with the help of the Holy Spirit, and you started the journey.
So thank you for allowing us to come in on the journey with you.
You're a blessing.
By actual numbers, I won over two million people to Christ.
That's right.
And then we stopped taking country.
That's right.
I don't like taking count anyway, but millions can come to God through the television.
So please stand with Christian television.
God loves you.
He really, really does.
Bye-bye for today.
We want to thank Pastor Rick Renner for being on with us.
Yes.
A mighty man of God.
Go to that book.
Signs You'll See Just Before Jesus Returns.
Just before Jesus comes.
Amen.
We want to thank you for your prayers and support.
We would not be able to be here without you.
If you want to see more from us and our family, go to watch JimBakershow.com.
And as my dad always says, remember, God loves you.
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