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Belief in Redemptive Grace
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| Let me ask you this. | |
| Many, many Christians, and I deal with so many, that if they feel like if they love the sinner, member of their family or whatever, who is living a life that is contrary to the Bible, that then they endorse that sin, and then they feel like they're guilty. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And yet Jesus died for sinners. | |
| He so loved the world. | |
| God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son. | |
| Thank you, Lord. | |
| So this is, you know, the church is got to live in forgiveness and love. | |
| Yeah. | |
| But we've got to live according to God's word. | |
| And America is become a reprobate country. | |
| And your book is talking about it. | |
| This woke Jesus, this false Messiah destroying Christianity. | |
| And so according to Romans, God alone possesses the absolute jurisdiction over justice, including the carrying out of wrath against evil. | |
| What does the methodology of the woke movement do with that? | |
| Yeah. | |
| And I think, you know, to kind of lead into that and maybe to tie a bow on the on the previous part is that it's important that we recognize as we're ministering on these things that as I'm talking about issues as a whole, I'm talking from a truth standpoint. | |
| This is cut and dry. | |
| It's black and white. | |
| I'm speaking to the ideologies, the agendas, these sort of things. | |
| There's no compromise in that world. | |
| When I'm ministering to somebody one-on-one, I'm leading with love because I believe it's God's kindness that leads them to repentance. | |
| And people struggle with that. | |
| Or they flip it around. | |
| They go, you know, grace and mercy on the broad and then judgment on this. | |
| And so when you start looking about how the left then, how this woke community is looking at something like justice, justice is the conversation that's behind most of wokeism. | |
| It is basically this idea that essentially boils down to that people do not trust God to bring about true justice, that there are injustices in this world that have just gone on for too long and nobody's doing anything about it. | |
| The government's complicit. | |
| God's complicit because he sits there silent. | |
| If he even exists, it's kind of their mindset. | |
| And so we have to get in there and we have to do something and start creating entitlements and all these things. | |
| And so wokeism is nothing more than really arrogance and pride in that. | |
| I wanted to ask you about, you write in the book on page 172. | |
| I have it written down. | |
| You wrote, what do you believe is perhaps the greatest sin of the woke movement? | |
| Is that something you've been talking about? | |
| Yeah, so I think. | |
| You talked about it in your book. | |
| 100%. | |
| So there's really two things I would look at. | |
| The one that I mentioned in the book specifically is that they have forgotten that life is a spiritual experience first and foremost. | |
| That when you look at all the injustice in the world, this world in the physical is never going to be able to provide a full solution to injustice. | |
| Even if you righted one wrong, life is still a terminal experience. | |
| We're still all going to die unless the Lord comes back while we're still here. | |
| There's going to still be a passing. | |
| And so there's always going to feel like there's some sort of injustice that's out there. | |
| And what the woke community, the radical left, has failed to recognize, and I would say woke Christians have failed to recognize, is that ultimately that the spiritual is the place where God redeems us. | |
| The Bible says that to trust God as that final judge, to allow that vengeance is mine, saith the Lord, that there will come a day where I can trust. | |
| We don't have vengeance. | |
| We don't have vengeance. | |
| Absolutely. | |
| It's his. | |
| Yes. | |
| So you can't take his place. | |
| Yes. | |
| We can have discernment over truth. | |
| We can, you know, to some degree as best we can. | |
| We can legislate morality so we don't have a chaotic, lawless society. | |
| We have to have some aspect of that. | |
| But at the end of the day, we have to trust the Lord to be the final say in these matters. | |
| And ultimately, I believe one of my favorite definitions for heaven is that heaven is the place where things are as they ought to be. | |
| It is the place where every right is wrong. | |
| It is the place where full redemption happens, where his grace is poured out. | |
| And, you know, there's not going to be a conservative utopia. | |
| There's not going to be a Marxist utopia. | |
| We are waiting for a redemption that is from above. | |
| And anytime we forget that, I believe that's one of the greatest sins of the woke church. | |