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Every War Has Winners and Losers
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| You said in your book that the revolutionary and civil wars, both sides were fighting for the divine mandate of the nation, but that neither side was totally right or wrong. | |
| The problem was that the victors didn't consider that the losers might have been right about some of the issues. | |
| Is that what we're seeing in America today? | |
| I think you have that in every war. | |
| You know, just about every war. | |
| I mean, you could think, okay, the Nazis, they weren't right about anything. | |
| You know what I mean? | |
| But they were rabid anti-communists. | |
| They were right about that. | |
| But the, yeah, there's, you know, even in a church split, you know, God goes with both sides. | |
| That's true. | |
| They're both his people, and they're all his people. | |
| And you know how we're that way with our own kids. | |
| And I think every, usually virtually every civil war I've studied, and I've studied many, not just the American Civil Wars, there's truth on both sides. | |
| And you could latch on to it. | |
| But, you know, our civil war was so unnecessary. | |
| If we had really believed what we wrote in our founding documents and said we're going to live these without compromise, there'd have been no need for a civil war. | |
| It could not have been slavery. | |
| It could not have been discrimination and all this. | |
| When we say we believe all men are created equal, and that's why Heaven thought our revolutionary war was not successful. | |
| They didn't see us as having won that. | |
| They said this wasn't just about you getting free from Britain, you know, getting your independence from Britain. | |
| It was about establishing a place in the earth where there's liberty and justice for all, not just some, and where there will be, you know, people treated as all being created equal under the law. | |
| And we didn't do that. | |
| We didn't do it. | |
| So we had to pay the price with the Civil War. | |
| Well, that didn't finish the job. | |
| We'd have never needed a civil rights movement or anything if the job had been done then. | |
| It wasn't done then, wasn't done by the civil rights movement. | |
| A lot was accomplished, no doubt, that we need to honor them for. | |
| But listen, we have still not lived up to our ultimate founding documents. | |
| And this is the real issue. | |
| And to me, one definition of success for what comes, we finish the job. | |
| We say this will be a land where all people are created equal. | |
| They're going to be treated that way under law. | |
| Nobody's going to be discriminated against. | |
| And there will be liberty and justice for all. | |
| Is this going to be vicious? | |
| I think it's going to be far more vicious than any war we've ever been involved in. | |
| Whoa. | |