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Bringing The Pain Biden Style With Zak Paine | MSOM Ep. 834

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Independent Pollers Needed 00:14:57
Welcome to Making Sense of the Madness.
For the next hour, Zach Payne and I are going to mash it up.
We're going to talk Trump, RFK Jr., and beyond.
You're not going to want to miss it.
We'll be back after this.
As you know, crooked Joe Biden and his radical left thugs have weaponized law enforcement to arrest their leading opponent, by a lot leading, on fake and phony charges.
It's a phony deal.
This is high-level election interference, and it's happening for a single reason, because I'm the one candidate that they do not want to run against.
You know, they always go out, yo, we really want to run against Trump.
If they wanted to run against me, I wouldn't be in courts all over the land fighting these maniacs off.
They don't want to run.
And if you look at today's polls that just came out, I'm leading Biden and just about all of them.
And in some cases, leading them by a lot.
No, they don't want to run against me, but they say, you know, very smart.
They're good.
The misinformation people, disinformation and or misinformation.
A lot of people don't know the difference.
There's a very little difference, but we'll say it's both.
Disinformation, misinformation.
They say, yeah, we want to run against Trump.
We're dying to run against him.
First of all, we won in 2016.
Same people said, he won't be able to beat Hillary Clinton.
Now they say he won't be able to beat Crooked Joe Biden.
And he beat him the first time.
And when you look where we're at right now, not only do they not want him to run, but they want us to slip further into the banana republic that I believe we're already in.
They want to go full Donkey Kong country style, folks, bushels of bananas.
And if that happens, or in my case, I think when that happens, we have a very, very different country.
Right now, the entire process seems to be for show.
And we're seeing state after state doing what?
Trying to get automatic voter registration.
One of the many tools in the toolbox of corruption to talk about that and much more is AMP News contributor Zach Payne.
Zach, what did you think of what Trump had to say right there?
Well, I think he's absolutely right.
The radical left does not want to go up against him in another election because they're fully aware of the fact that they lost the first time around.
There's no way Joe Biden received 81 million votes.
It was obviously much, much less than that when you remove the dead voters and the duplicate voters and the fake names and just so much happening with these bloated voter rolls all across the country.
This is why the Democrats scream voter suppression when we try to do anything about it.
The only thing it's suppressing is their ability to cheat.
So yes, there's no way that they want to go up against Trump again.
And they'll pull every single dirty trick in their dirty bag to try to make it impossible for him to remain on the ballot.
I truly do believe that Donald Trump will be the nominee.
I believe he will be on that ballot.
I don't think there's anything they're going to be able to do to stop him.
They might attempt to slow it down, but it's a steady advance that will happen whether they like it or not.
And we're going to beat him again.
So before we even get to the primary season and whether or not he's able to get that nomination, because obviously there is an establishment push to try to put somebody like a pence and Haley especially in there.
That's what my mind's eye saw when I watched that first debate.
Vivek took the stage.
I think he's going to be hard to deny at the same time.
DeSantis is in the pocket.
When we look at Trump, he is wildly popular, but we're seeing these moves by states already, such as this voter registration being automatic.
And we know how that tool is being used.
What are you seeing across the board for people in upper echelon positions across states to fortify the next election?
Well, I think we have to go against this automatic voter registration.
The Republican legislatures have got to get tight on this stuff.
I mean, at this moment, I can't specifically point to many things that I know they're actually doing.
It's almost as if they're just walking headlong into oblivion with a hope and a prayer, expecting that everything's going to be different than it was in 2020.
But it's not going to be different if they've successfully shored up their fake voter registration base.
You know, what they did in Pennsylvania is going to have drastic consequences for the people of that state.
If the legislatures are not willing to do anything about it, then I think it's going to be incumbent upon the people to force this issue.
They're going to need to step forward, and perhaps we're going to need mass demonstrations.
I know that people are very uncomfortable with that concept now after January 6th, but I think that that was one of the points of January 6th.
They wanted us to feel like we could not gather in a public place.
We could not have our voices heard by the powers that be.
And for that reason alone, I think that we have the responsibility to stand up and actually say, hey, enough is enough.
We simply cannot allow this to go on.
If it's allowed to go on, then I think we're going to see a repeat of 2020 because they're going to use every single fake vote they have to cast it for Joe Biden or for whoever is the Democrat nominee at that point.
And then once again, the American people are going to look and say, what the heck just happened?
You know, Trump obviously won.
Joe Biden didn't win.
I don't know a single person who's supporting Joe Biden.
You know, I remember driving across the country in 2020 and seeing Trump signs on virtually every lawn all across the states.
And I don't think I saw a single Biden sign in anybody's lawn.
I think maybe I saw one Joe Biden sticker, but that was it.
I mean, he just did not have the popular support.
And I'm almost wondering if perhaps the system wants it to go that way, because Joe Biden just doesn't have the popularity.
He's even less popular than he was back in 2020.
So he didn't hold rallies.
Nobody showed up when he did.
The only people who were there was the press.
And it was like a big wake-up call for a lot of Americans.
They saw it and they were like, okay, obviously this man cheated.
And I think the majority of Americans believe that to this day.
So if it happens again, is America going to stand for it?
I'm not so sure.
So let's not even get to the point where it happens again because, look, I'm with you.
We can't have this chilling effect that obviously was part of the psychological operation of January 6th, where we no longer have the right to gather and redress grievances.
I think that civil disobedience and gathering is one of the main things, the only tools that might be successful in the near future and ones we have to utilize.
But let's talk about polling because I think that's the next thing they're going to try to dismiss.
I think that we have to have independent polling, starting with the primaries, not just in the presidential elections, but in really all the elections within your state and county.
We need independent pollers because I really feel like they're going to be discrediting them in light of trying to institute things such as mail-in ballots and say, oh, a lot of people are mailing it in or they're coming in for early voting.
We got a week and a half to vote now.
So these pollers, what are your thoughts on that?
Yeah, I think that's a great idea.
It certainly gives people a granular kind of look into what's happening at the precinct level.
That would be the smartest thing.
I mean, if we could just figure out a way to break down the election system into a simpler, you know, case-by-case basis, just precinct by precinct, you know, maybe a thousand people per precinct.
If we need to have more precincts, that's fine.
We've got enough people out there who would be willing to run the polls, who would be willing to work there, especially after what happened in 2020.
So, yeah, polling, I think, is going to be key in terms of what we see and how we should be stacking up the votes that actually come in.
But of course, people are in the mainstream media, they're going to point to, well, it's not a Reuters poll or it's not a Q poll or it's not a WAPO poll.
But I don't know anybody who trusts those polls.
What's really interesting to me is that with those mainstream polls that they're doing on a national scale, even with their oversampling of Democrats and their propensity to stack the deck against Donald Trump, he's still coming out on top across the board.
So it almost makes me think that it's getting impossible for them to fake the type of results that they used to.
Like going back to the polling that was done during 2016, I mean, everybody and their grandmother would have said that Hillary Clinton was going to beat Donald Trump.
They literally did not think she could lose.
That's why the victory on that night was just so delicious to watch those people's hearts drop out of their chest, to watch their faces melt and the realization come over them that, my God, it's actually happened.
And we've been wrong this entire time.
I think that's one of the reasons they had to dig in so hard during Trump's time in office, because they recognized that, well, whatever type of brainwashing and propagandizing they were doing up until that point, it simply wasn't enough.
But by doing so, they have convinced the American people that they are liars, that they do not have a genuine bone in their body, and that when the media speaks, we always know that it's a lie.
And when polling comes out, we know that, gosh, the numbers must be far greater than what they're actually giving us.
Yeah, you know, I was actually referring to a different type of polling, but I'm very skeptical of mainstream polling.
I was talking about exit polling at the primary process.
I'm sorry.
But no, no, no, that's a good point as well.
Because listen, first of all, I think that there are good independent polls that have been out there.
I think when you start getting into presidential politics or governor politics, a lot of them are swayed by the audience that they're actually polling.
But my point is that we have to have actual audits.
We don't have audits of elections anymore.
And in this primary process, I think we're going to have to hold our state legislators accountable because I think many will be pressured not to give their electorate to Trump no matter what.
We're seeing now what calls for Supreme Court decisions on whether or not he will be eligible to run based on the fact of the January 6th fake trials.
So when we get to the next level, and that's coming up, man, we're literally now, what, 13 months away, 13 and change from a presidential election.
So Super Tuesday, all that stuff's going to be here within the blink of an eye.
I think we need independent pollers on the scene.
I think we need to discourage any type of mail-in ballots or early ballots.
And not just polling, Zach.
It's the era of the live stream.
There is no reason that at every major voting facility, there shouldn't be three live streamers asking, who did you vote for?
Who did you vote for?
On your way out, on your way, and interviewing people, getting a feel, getting a physical record of who's actually showing up and who they're voting for.
Now, not everybody's going to say that's part of it, but the vast majority are very fervent about who they're voting for.
And I think that no matter what happens in the end, that helps sway the opinion in that court of public opinion, Zach.
And I tend to agree with you, but I also think that you're right on the point you made earlier.
They're going to say, no matter what the exit polls say, they will officially say, hey, you know, it's actually swinging for Joe Biden because we've got all these absentee ballots and all of these mail-in ballots.
So, you know, it's great, I think, to hear people say over and over and over again, I'm voting for Trump, I'm voting for Trump, I'm voting for Trump.
And then it does perhaps give the people in that area a bit more of a reason to go in there and actually do it themselves.
But yeah, I think it's easy to skew.
I think more than anything else, we need to be the ones that are working in the polls.
We need to be the ones who are the election workers in each and every single precinct all across America.
And, you know, let's take a look at some of these traditionally Democrat areas.
We've got a UAW strike going on right now.
The rank and file of the UAW understand that whatever Joe Biden has done up until this point hasn't worked.
Traditionally, they voted blue, but now they're talking about a change.
They're talking about voting for Donald Trump.
He stood up against NAFTA.
You know, I mean, he stood up for the rights of American workers.
He brought American auto manufacturing back to the United States.
Joe Biden wants to ship that right back over to China.
They also want to transition everybody into electric vehicles.
That is less labor intensive, and they're also doing it with non-union workers.
So the president of the UAW says, oh, yeah, 100% Joe Biden.
We're voting Joe Biden.
But I think there's going to be a split.
And I think that what that's going to lead to is in areas like Wayne County, where you've had traditionally all Democrats that are working at the polls.
And that's what makes it so easy to stack up fake votes.
You're now going to have people who have traditionally been Democrats who will be working the polls, but they'll be voting for Donald Trump.
And if they see something that is untoward in the back room, if they see a ballot drop of 100,000 ballots coming in at 3:30 in the morning, I pray to God that they would step forward and say, you know, absolutely not.
I'm not going to be a part of this again.
Yeah, I pray to God as well, but I don't know if God's listening.
We got to take a break.
When we get back, I want to talk ballot harvesting and beyond.
It is making sense of the madness.
We're joined by Zach Payne, and we'll be back after this.
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It's making sense of the madness.
And Zach, you know, I've heard some people on the right, bigger names, not going to mention anybody, not going to throw them under the bus, but they're basically saying we've got to give into ballot harvesting.
We've got to get out there and start ballot harvesting.
Now, for me, that kind of turns my stomach.
It reeks of corruption.
I think we really have to be auditing their ballot harvesting.
In fact, you just alluded to the fact of, you know, truckloads of votes just showing up.
I mean, that's only enabled by this ballot harvesting system.
So I'm not Bobby ballot harvester.
What is your opinion on ballot harvesting?
And if it is as bad as I'm saying, how do we rein that in by eliminating it altogether?
I am of the opinion that we should be first and foremost fighting to end the practice of ballot harvesting, to end the practice of universal mail-in and absentee ballots, to end the practice, specifically in Pennsylvania, of automatic voter registration.
That's just ridiculous that they're allowing this stuff to get through.
We have to focus on those things.
We need to push for one vote, one day.
People need to show an identification to prove who they are.
We should have the reassurance that our voter rolls are full of real living people who are American citizens, who live at the address that they claim to, and that they're not going to be bloated with people who passed away back in, I don't know, who were born in the 1800s or something like that.
That's got to be the first thing we do.
Now, barring that, if by some twist of fate, ballot harvesting is something that is legal in the area where you are, I think it's certainly something that we should be paying attention to.
But I think that by participating in ballot harvesting, it gives the other side the exact information they need to produce additional ballots to offset any of those ballots we would be bringing in early.
I know that traditionally Republicans and conservatives have voted on the day of, but the practice of voting early has become more and more appealing to people as they kind of get away from this idea that there's something sacrosanct about Election Day.
But I think that we need to vote on Election Day.
And I think to make it possible for people to vote on Election Day, we should have a federal holiday.
Everybody should have paid time off.
You have the entire day to devote to one thing and one thing only, and that's to go cast a ballot and choose who's going to be your elected leaders.
Because if you don't choose, somebody else is going to choose for you.
Well, people are choosing for us, in our opinion, in my opinion, because we can't audit any of these elections.
But I also think that the court of public opinion and the facade, the illusion of what's going on is extremely important.
Voting as a Federal Holiday 00:15:04
Now, earlier, you discussed unions, and I'm not sure if you're aware, but the Screen Actors Guild and the writers are now back at the table with the Holly Weirdos.
Now, people like Bill Maher were saying they were going to come back without writers.
They were going to do their show.
He's now pulled back because they're back at the table.
I think this is really interesting timing.
Now, there are those that have alluded to the idea: well, you can't bring back the COVID-19 44 nightmare without not only social media influencers, but Hollywood actors, et cetera, to push that narrative and Hollywood-produced material, which people don't understand was heavily produced during the COVID.
I think, think about it, guys.
They were selling you like literally mentally disabled people with masks for your favorite football team.
Like, I watched that ad hundreds of times.
You know, the ad I'm talking about, Zach.
It was out of control.
I mean, selling you that.
I mean, I was just like, what is going on?
So now, whether or not they want to bring the COVID-19 44 nightmare back, it's election season.
And they want, look, a lot of these people will sway one way or the other for a little De Niro.
And we know how they're going to sway.
And the thing is that this one for me, it's never about left or right, but people think that traditionally Hollywood is going to lean left.
Well, they want an establishment candidate on the right.
So you better believe that they're going to roll out any Christian conservative representative in the Hollyweird arena to push a guy like Pence, to push a guy like DeSantis.
And I think this really does mean that we're going to see some either, I think it'll be a temporary like 12 to 18 month contract just in line with election season.
That's the conspiracy theorist in me, Zach.
What are your thoughts?
I think it's entirely possible.
But I also think that the issues that they're striking on are pretty fundamental to the survival of the industry and the people who work within it.
You know, from what I understand, the strike is largely about the ownership of one's own digital likeness.
Studios have begun the process of scanning talent into their computer banks so that they can then project them behind like the main talent in a scene.
And there you go.
You've got unlimited extras that you can use in any scene, anywhere, anytime, and you never have to pay royalties.
That's pretty scummy, if you ask me.
People like Bob Iger, I guess, want to hold on to as much money as they possibly can while their policies are basically squeezing out the industry of anything that is worth consuming.
I don't know that they'll actually come to the table and have some sort of temporary arrangement if they truly believe that at some point in the future, they're going to be under the gun again.
And these studios are going to threaten them with the possibility of basically shutting them out.
You know, I used to follow Hollywood.
I used to be into that stuff, you know, years ago.
I mean, I enjoyed movies.
I liked Marvel.
I've always been a Star Wars fan, but they've killed it for me.
They've absolutely destroyed it.
And I'm sick of being preached to.
I'm sick of the woke programming that's in all of it.
I'm sick of the satanic programming that's in it.
And I think a lot of people are feeling that way too.
And so the strike in Hollywood, you know, good riddance.
I think that they can put themselves out of business.
And I would be perfectly fine with it.
If those studios close down because they're suffering through another 12 to 18 months of no output, no ability to make any money, then perhaps we'll get some people in Hollywood producing products that are actually entertaining and based on the right messaging.
I'd love to believe that Fantasyland pipe dream.
Don't see it happening.
I'm an optimal.
Unfortunately.
Listen, I'm with you, man.
Like I was with you three quarters of the way because boy, have they, you know, you talk about Star Wars.
I was that guy in line for the Phantom Menace in the late 90s, right?
I'm the guy that literally watched Empire Strikes back on VHS a couple hundred times before those even came out.
I love The Simpsons.
I mean, I've seen every episode up until about five years ago where just something just was not clicking.
Like you said, when the Marvel Universe kicked off, it was a kid like me, kid.
I mean, I'm an eternal kid.
It was a dream come true.
I mean, they had crapped the bed on so many licenses as a child.
The best things that we got were really the Tim Burton Batmans really early on.
And then the Spider-Mans that came out in the late 90s, they were kind of okay.
There was, you know, everybody's like, oh, it's going to happen.
Then they actually made movies.
You know, it's like they tricked us.
They took out actual narrative development.
There were less of that.
You didn't get money for that anymore.
And now it was all these Hollyweird blockbusters.
And at the same time, Disney bought everything.
I mean, they literally bought every single one of those things.
So to me, I don't think that they're going to be losing that much money.
I think they've got all of this past stuff that's just going to be on there.
We're on the streaming services.
That was a big contention on how much they wanted to pay these guys there.
And then when we talk about AI, the really interesting thing is, you know, I follow this almost religiously because I think it is a religion to these people and that we have to be aware of what they're doing.
But Steven Thaler, who is the inventor of a thing called the imagination machine, he recently took it to court that his AI could patent things.
And they basically said that AI cannot patent things and that they are unpatentable.
And this had Holly Weirdos take notice because they realized that if they put things out there that are full AI and not just a digital likeness, then they may not be covered by copyright and then they don't make money.
So I think we're in a very odd arena.
I would have to agree with you that this is a big issue.
This is a fundamental issue of whether or not you're going to own really your own persona.
Because if you think this is just in the realm of Hollyweird, it's not with deep fake technology.
What will be parody in the future?
Will it matter if you're a public figure or you're just somebody that puts something into the public arena?
In other words, will it be okay if I go to somebody's public Facebook profile, I scrape their images, I create a deep fake of video, and I use them in a production because I like their look.
Are they entitled to anything?
They didn't give me anything.
They didn't sign anything over.
So these are gray areas that we're going to have to deal with.
But the one area that's not gray to me is that they love this system.
People like Jack Valente, who just happened to be on the plane after JFK got shot, you know, big, big intelligence ties, you know, founded the Motion Picture Association of America.
I mean, they're the guys.
Like, this is intelligence and Hollyweird run.
It's a synthesis.
It's a disgusting, symbiotic relationship.
And just kind of throw some modern news in there.
You know, it didn't surprise me when the stuff about Russell Brand recently came out.
And that's another thing people have to realize.
You know, Russell Brand was very open about his behavior.
I didn't realize it reached into the realm of 16-year-old girls, which are legal in Europe.
I'm still not condoning any of the stuff that's now public, everybody.
But they didn't care until he was speaking out against the narrative, right?
So both things can be true.
And that's another issue that we're constantly combating in this weird world: that somebody can say real things and then have a dark past.
And we can't all cheerlead for that person without acknowledging at least that dark past.
So we're in a very odd situation in this media where the media is only, for instance, you know, we just talked about allegations on brand.
What if they treated the allegations of brand the same way McGregor, who's on video, pulling a woman into a bathroom and then being protected by security?
McGregor, who, again, folks, I just want everybody to understand this, was arrested on January 17th, 2019 by the police there, where he said he had consensual sex with a woman previously in December who spent weeks in a hospital, bruised and battered head to toe.
That's not possible to be consensual.
He was never charged.
Is the media telling you about that?
No, he's a cash cow for Disney.
Exactly.
You know, ESPN is Disney.
He's a cash cow for the UFC and Endeavor Entertainment and the ARIA manuals of the world.
And, you know, we often talk about BlackRock, et cetera, but all of that has been possible with this weird synthesis of entertainment and government, in my opinion.
No, I think you're absolutely right.
And you're dead on with Conor McGregor.
He is still useful to the machine.
He's making them money, even if he's a bit bloated and probably on cocaine with a bit of an alcohol problem at this point.
But Russell Brand, you know, everybody has something dark in their past.
You know, I'll say this.
I got sober almost six years ago, just over five years ago.
It'll be six years in January.
And when I did, I went to rehab and my mom bought me Russell Brand's book, where he details his own struggles with drugs and alcohol.
And, you know, it was something that really like kept me going during the time that I was in there.
I mean, it made me feel like, you know, God, this guy was messed up.
He definitely did some things that he is not proud of, but he is able to live his life today and he's feeling good about it.
So, you know, here I am.
I've done the exact same thing, but I embrace those dark things that happened in my past.
When you do, nobody else can use it against you.
Now, the interesting thing about Russell is that, you know, I mean, for years, he was also useful to the machine.
And recently, in the last couple of years, when he's kind of started breaking out of that programming, you know, they've gotten cooler and cooler on him.
And now, right at the exact moment that he's about to bring RFK Jr. on his platform, you know, something that I think would kind of bring a unique synthesis to the conversation on the internet, they come out with these claims of sexual impropriety with four women who were in long-standing consensual relationships with him, four women who never thought that he had done anything worthy of going to the police.
They only told their stories when this journalist came to them asking if they'd like to be part of a hit piece on Russell Brand.
What did they receive in return for their stories?
You know, I mean, did they get promised fame, riches?
Did they receive an ultimate payoff?
I mean, are they going to get reality shows?
Is this going to be a new program on TLC?
You know, my life with Russell Brand.
These women never thought to come forward until this very specific moment.
I just do not find that to be coincidental.
It's something that you see over and over again.
It actually just happened to Tim Ballard, too.
Tim Ballard, the guy from Operation Underground Railroad, he had Sound of Freedom, a movie based on his life came out this summer.
The entirety of the establishment was railing against it, calling it a conspiracy fodder and it's for QAnon dads and saying all kinds of terrible things to get people to not go see it.
When at the end of the day, they really just don't want you to realize just the insidious nature of human and child trafficking and how all-pervasive it is throughout the world.
The work that Tim Balard did at Operation Underground Railroad, I think, was totally worthwhile.
I think that the movie was an excellent example of what can happen when you do tell a story from the right place and you're not just trying to propagandize.
But the day after he announces he's going to run for Mitt Rodney's Senate seat, suddenly there is a series of sexual impropriety claims against him as well.
Again, none of them went to the police, but the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was quick to condemn him all the same.
So I've looked at the Ballard stuff.
I think it's very different from the Russell Brand stuff.
There actually is some evidence that one of the victims did go to the Rape Crisis Center, and there is a text message exchange between them where he basically, it's a situation where this is the 16-year-old, again, legal in Europe, and the use of a condom.
And I'm just going to say people read the exchange and check it out themselves.
But again, he's a Holly weirdo at heart.
He's admitted to some dark stuff.
That doesn't surprise me.
The stuff against Ballard, none of it is rape or even sexual assault.
The things they're saying are things like sleeping in the same bed or in a shower with another operative and then allegations of how far you're willing to go to save children.
I've seen nothing of substance there, but at the same time, you knew that was happening early because he left OUR.
There's another story, Zach, that we'll hit on quickly before we go to break, which I think is much more egregious.
On this very show, we had Tim Hutchinson, who was one of the people that funded the Sound of Freedom film and was the operative in the movie, who is essentially the rich person who had worked with Operation Underground Railroad to bring these people to justice.
Now, in one of the operations where you are undercover, where it is extremely dangerous, there's a video of him touching a naked woman's breasts who is brought up basically as a trafficking victim.
Now, it's argued this person could have been 16 or 18, but this is amidst a deal and an operation.
In other words, it's not him having a sexual relationship with him.
It's him during a sting.
And so Vice yesterday came out with this long hit piece.
And you've got to get to about paragraph four or five before they admit that there is nothing that suggests that this was anything more than part of that operation to bring them to justice.
So again, it does illustrate how the machine will come after you if you have any success.
First, they ignore you, then they demonize you, then they go after you.
They go after your past, and we see that with Trump.
Bernie Sanders and the Party's Stance 00:08:27
We got to take a break.
When we come back, I want to talk about somebody else they're coming after, RFK Jr. and this latest run on C-SPAN.
You mentioned him via brand.
We're going to be seeing them talk about the machine after this.
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It's pretty well documented.
The Democratic Party put their finger on the scale, their thumbs, their foot on the scale to make sure that Bernie Sanders could not get the nomination.
I think if Bernie Sanders had gotten the nomination, we would be in a very different place in our country today.
And but I there's an antagonism and antipathy within the Democratic Party for for people who have true progressive values, who people who are trying, who are challenging the, the dominance, the predominance of Wall Street interests of companies like Blackrock, State Street Vanguard, um and the military Industrial Complex.
You know, the Democratic Party used to be anti-war.
It's now um at the forefront of promoting these forever wars um, which are destroying our country and um, and so you know Bernie Sanders was a threat to that infrastructure and I am 10 times the threat that Bernie Sanders was.
And so I think that there's, you know they've they pulled out all the stops to make sure that uh, that I will not uh threaten the donor base.
I think he nailed it right there, Zach.
I mean he calls out Blackrock Vanguard, the military Industrial Complex, and says look, i'll be 10 times the threat that Bernie Sanders.
I would argue, a hundred times the threat, because this guy doesn't seem like he's going to compromise or bend the knee?
No, not at all.
I absolutely agree.
I I would say that uh, Robert F Kennedy Jr is probably one of the most transformative types of candidates that we've seen in modern history.
I mean on par with Donald Trump.
This is why I love him, because he's essentially doing for the left what Donald Trump did for the right.
Uh, if and people didn't wake up after watching Bernie Sanders get the nomination stolen from him uh, in 2015 2016, then I think seeing it happen to Rfk Jr will really solidify it for them.
You know he, he is not a Neocon in The way that uh, the modern Democrat party is uh, bloodthirsty and hungry for war.
Uh, if he was president he, he would significantly change things in this country.
I fully believe that uh, but I uh I, I know that they're going to do whatever they can to stop him from being the nominee now.
I hope that simply his presence in this race will be enough to wake people up.
If they steal it from him, then perhaps the uh, the Bernie Bros of 2016 who uh, were not willing to vote for Donald Trump at that time and maybe begrudgingly voted for Hillary Clinton because Bernie bent the knee and and got a big check to buy a summer home.
Uh, perhaps they will come over to the other side of the aisle and uh and work to unseat whatever power base the Democrats continue to hold on to, because we need America unified behind a single candidate.
I, I know they're going to attempt to cheat again and I think that the only way we can break through that uh, that kind of programming that they have for Us, is if a significant number of people vote for a candidate who will beat Joe Biden, and vote for them in such overwhelming numbers to make it impossible for them to cheat in the numbers that they'll need to.
You know, in many cases, in a number of cases throughout the country, I mean, we had more people voting in districts than who actually lived there.
You know, they never bothered to explain how that was possible.
They simply said, oh, well, Joe Biden was the most popular candidate in history.
And here we are now in 2023.
2024 is right around the corner.
Joe Biden is less popular than ever, and he continues to lose support by the day.
So you mentioned the word neocon, and you mentioned it in relationship to the modern Democratic Party, which is something that RFK Jr. was alluding to.
Can you expand on that?
Yeah, you know, I mean, neocons, really, from my perspective, I mean, that's just the modern wing of the Uniparty.
It's not just the Democrats.
I mean, certainly there are plenty of Republicans out there that I would consider neocons as well.
These people who have this bloodthirst, I mean, they want to push us into World War III.
I mean, every single legislator that votes to send more and more money over to Ukraine, all they're doing is just funding the meat grinder.
They're sending men to their deaths.
They're sending women and children to their deaths.
I mean, look, we just had an incident where a Ukrainian missile hit a Ukrainian city, a crowded marketplace in a village, and people died.
You know, there is real costs to the United States funding this proxy war between us and Russia through the back door of Ukraine.
And I think that the neoconservative running board, which is, you know, just using American dominance in the military stage across the world to exert our will on every country that we deem fit.
You know, I mean, this has been going on for a long time.
I mean, I think the first time I heard the term neocon was perhaps during George W. Bush's administration.
You know, I mean, he obviously had a plan when he came into office.
I think that he was maybe angry about what happened to his father being only a one-term president, kind of looking weak up against Saddam Hussein.
He came into office hoping to unseat Saddam Hussein.
We had a new Pearl Harbor, just as the Project for a New American Century had predicted in 9-11.
And very shortly after that, we went to war with both Iraq and Afghanistan.
They blamed Osama bin Laden and a bunch of random terrorists with, I guess, impermeable and completely undestroyable passports who just happened to show up as evidence in the wreckage of those buildings, which crumbled to the ground, but the paper didn't burn.
You know, these neoconservatives who are running our country, whether they're Democrats or Republicans, want to perpetuate American hegemony through the use of the military-industrial complex.
And at the same time, they want to continue to line their own pockets because take a look at Michael Chertoff.
You know, Michael Chertoff, he had a major stake in the backscatter microwave X-ray machines that ended up going into virtually every airport all throughout America.
He was in the Bush administration.
I mean, he had a vested interest in perpetuating the fear of the war on terror.
So not only was he in the Bush administration, he was literally, I believe at the time, the deputy director of the FBI.
He's the one that squashed the investigation into Robert Wright, Barry Carmati, and others' claims that they were tracking the money beforehand, told lawyer Larry Klayman they didn't want to look into conspiracy theories.
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And for his work, he was made the initial head of Homeland Security that ordered a ton of those backscatter microwave machines that scan us at the airports to this day.
We've got to take another break.
When I come back, I want to talk about, well, that bloodthirsty mentality that was on full display at the United Nations via zombie J Puppet Biden and, of course, Zelensky himself and beyond.
We're going to be focusing on the misinformation and disinformation of Jacinda Arden, the New Zealand monster in chief.
When we get back, it's Making Sense of the Madness with Zach Payne.
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This week we launched an initiative alongside companies and nonprofits to help improve research and understanding of how a person's online experiences are curated by automated processes.
This will also be important in understanding more about mis and disinformation online, a challenge that we must as leaders address.
Sadly, I think it's easy to dismiss this problem as one in the margins.
I can certainly understand the desire to leave it to someone else.
As leaders, we're rightly concerned that even the most light touch approaches to disinformation could be misinterpreted as being hostile to the values of free speech that we value so highly.
But while I cannot tell you today what the answer is to this challenge, I can say with complete certainty that we cannot ignore it.
To do so poses an equal threat to the norms we all value.
After all, how do you successfully end a war if people are led to believe the reason for its existence is not only legal but noble?
How do you tackle climate change if people do not believe it exists?
How do you ensure the human rights of others are upheld when they are subjected to hateful and dangerous rhetoric and ideology?
The weapons may be different, but the goals of those who perpetuate them is often the same.
To cause chaos and reduce the ability of others to defend themselves, to disband communities, to collapse the collective strength of countries who work together.
But we have an opportunity here to ensure that these particular weapons of war do not become an established part of warfare.
In these times, I'm acutely aware of how easy it is to feel disheartened.
We are facing many battles on many fronts, but there is cause for optimism because for every new weapon we face, there is a new tool to overcome it.
For every attempt to push the world into chaos, there is a collective conviction to bring us back to order.
We have the means.
We just need the collective will.
A true authoritarian monster on display in her own words.
Let's recap that, Zach.
Number one, words are now weapons of war, especially when they're truthful and now have to be phrased as misinformation or disinformation.
We have to protect groups and allow them to conduct their wars without any criticism so they can stop their wars.
We have to believe in climate change to combat it.
And really, the end, she gives it away.
She talks about how what this is order out of chaos, the chaos they have created, that this is under collectivism.
I often talk about how whether you're talking about Marxism, socialism, communism, they are all flavors of collectivism.
And then she talks about the quote-unquote will to do so.
There's somebody I know that talked about the importance of the will.
He had a funny little mustache and he had a first name named Adolf.
And he talked about the will specifically a lot.
It's crazy to me that these people can sit on a global stage and literally announce the rhetoric of Nazis with a smiling face and mean what they say.
We need to come together to combat the weapon of war, free speech, Zach.
You know, I feel like this is almost the ultimate global example of do as I say is not as I do, because what they're describing there is the use of psychological operations and disinformation as such as they've used on the public at large.
And what they're doing is twisting the meaning of these words.
When we talk, when we use our voices, when we demand to be heard, suddenly it's misinformation or worse, disinformation.
But when the government does it, it's not propaganda.
It's not disinformation or misinformation.
I mean, it's just them telling us what the narrative is.
And by Jove, if we don't believe what that narrative is, then suddenly we are a danger to the stability of society.
You know, I was particularly disheartened by her statement at the end there, where she mentioned the new weapons that they plan to use to fight against misinformation and disinformation.
I mean, what does that mean?
I mean, greater restrictions on speech, new tools that they're going to be rolling out to automatically remove certain things from social media, perhaps a greater propensity to ban people if they engage in wrongthink.
Jacinda Arden is just such a creep.
I can't stand to hear her talk that like sacrum, sickly, sweet tenor to her voice and those ever-present teeth.
When is she going to be leaving office?
I thought that she was had announced that she was no longer going to be head chief over there in New Zealand.
I don't know when that election is going to happen, but by God, it can't happen soon enough.
It almost doesn't matter because you know she's going to get some cushy position either at an NGO or on a speaking tour with the World Economic Forum to really promote this insane idea that we should give these people more tools to really fight humanity, fight the court of public opinion, and sometimes criminalize you for wrongthink.
We're already seeing it.
We're in the now.
Everybody has to realize that.
And on that platform, you know, she mentioned climate change.
Well, not only did they roll little man Rambo out Zelensky, but he actually talked while in one of the biggest global conflicts in modern history against the first world nation mentioned climate change as the scourge.
Zach, we're truly in the post-truth world.
Yeah, I mean, it's it's disheartening at times, as Jacinda said.
And certainly it feels like we have gone beyond the pale.
I don't know exactly what happens from here on out, but I always default to the idea that with the intensity that they use to increase their attacks on us, I can only hope that the people of the world respond in kind and rail against what they're trying to do to us because they're not going to be satisfied until our speech is totally regulated 100%,
whether it's online or at home, in our own minds.
They're undoubtedly going to be working to institute these types of controls in a technocratic method.
Obviously, right now, that's coming in the form of AI policing our posts online.
But I think it's only a matter of time before they start rolling out things that we can implant in our own bodies to ensure that we are compelled to speak in the way that they want us to.
We have to see this for what it is.
I mean, people have got to recognize that if we don't wake up, if we don't actively work to undo the controls that they're attempting to put in place, then we might as well sacrifice ourselves.
You know, like, let's go, guys, you know, just go ahead, lock me up, shoot me in the back of the head, push me into a shallow grave so that you don't have to worry about me getting in the way.
I sincerely hope that that doesn't happen.
I hope that people see this and make the decision actively to get active in their own communities because it's the only thing we can do.
We've got to start in our local communities and we've got to move our values up and out of those smaller settings.
Zach, we got to take one final break.
When we come back, I want to talk about what's going on over at Badlands Media with the red pill.
It is Making Sense of the Madness.
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Final segment of Making Sense of the Madness.
Zach, we got about five minutes left in the broadcast.
What are you guys rocking over there at Badlands Media?
And what story should we be focusing on this week?
Well, there is just so much happening.
I don't know that there's anything that we haven't touched on, you know, other than perhaps the upcoming impeachment and subpoena of Hunter Biden and James Biden.
From what I understand, they're going to be going back to 2008, the beginning of the Obama administration.
I can only imagine the treasure drove of data they're going to be able to grab from that.
You know, what'll be really interesting is to compare the information that Hunter and James are forced to submit versus what the Congress and the good people at Marco Polo have already been able to uncover when comparing it to the Hunter Biden laptop.
Hunter has, in his own words, from his own communications, shown that he and his father and the entire crime family were deeply involved in business together.
Hunter was paying for the entire family's bills.
He was giving half of his income to Joe Biden.
You know, we've been told that the text messages and communications on that laptop were somehow manipulated, according to Hunter and his legal team.
It should be interesting to see what types of messages he's able to produce from his own data and just how many more communications might exist between him and his father.
I mean, I would imagine there's got to be additional aliases that we're not aware of.
And then come to think of it, Hunter also mentioned that there was an entire ATT account, which was full of a variety of phone numbers that Joe was the one who was primarily using.
Just how many phone numbers?
Who was being contacted using those phones?
So, yeah, lots of interesting stuff happening there.
I don't believe that the impeachment itself is going to go anywhere in terms of removing Joe Biden from office.
I mean, frankly, I don't know that we want to have Joe Biden removed from office.
I think it's better for President Trump to run against Joe Biden as the Democrat nominee.
But I think that there is a potential for tremendous psychological impact on the American people to expose them to the full range of criminal actions that the Bidens were engaging in, both during the Obama administration and, of course, during Joe's current administration and then the crossover in the middle.
In terms of I was going to transition to something else, so you go ahead.
Well, I was going to ask you, you know, just to finalize, what do you think about this government shutdown?
You know, normally these things are essentially for show.
Unfortunately, we have seen the debt, and you know, which listen, in some ways, it's almost abstract, right?
But we've seen it go up from $32 to $33 trillion in just three months.
It's now at an exponential pace.
And obviously, a lot of this, you know, dealing with the government shutdown has to do with budgeting and what kind of money we're going to be printing again.
So, what are your thoughts in that in the final couple of minutes?
Well, I am slightly heartened by the fact that the Republicans pulled back on that joint resolution they were trying to pass to keep the government going past the September 30th deadline.
I think if Republicans in Congress are at all serious about representing the best interests of the American public, then they will begin to use the power of the purse that's inherent in that legislative body to stop Joe Biden from unrestrained spending and continuing to push us into further territory.
I mean, I think you're right, it is abstract at this point.
I mean, we're never going to pay that money back.
You know, I mean, we are running headlong like a bullet train towards a default.
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I don't see any other possibility here.
You know, inflation's out of control.
Interest rates are out of control.
Everybody is making less money and the country just continues to spend as if it's boom time.
Well, it simply isn't.
And I think Republicans owe it to the American people to actually do something about it.
I mean, if we shut down, I don't have a problem with it.
I think largely the majority of Washington, D.C. is totally superfluous.
Each state will continue to trudge on.
We will find a way to continue.
And I think that, you know, I think we could do with a nice long vacation for the people in Washington, D.C., because, I mean, hell, they don't do much of anything anyways, I don't think.
They certainly do not, Zach.
Thank you.
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