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Seth On Trump's Future 00:14:20
Welcome to Making Sense of the Madness.
I am Jason Burmes, and today we are joined by the man in America, Seth Holehouse.
Get ready to make sense of that madness after this.
If you're not going to stand up for Donald Trump right now after eight years of political persecution by the establishment.
And by the way, the establishment is the deep state establishment, the Marxist Dems who run the Democrat Party.
It's pathetic.
And to watch everybody just roll over for this is it's on American.
What the hell are people thinking?
Now, that was longtime newsman Lou Dobbs.
I remember watching him back in the day on CN, and he was one of the few people back then that still had journalistic integrity.
He has moved over to Fox News and then Fox Business, and he's kind of been relegated into the background since.
But everything he said there was absolutely correct.
And you know that I don't sit here and stump for Trump, but we now have four different places where we have over-the-top fictitious style indictments that are going to lead to kangaroo courts and unfortunately banana republic style arrests.
I really think they're putting him in prison this time, unfortunately, especially with these RICO counts in which they have ensnared 18 other individuals openly and another 30 essentially for what?
Daring to go through the constitutional, democratic process of auditing the election, not overturning the election, not a coup d'état.
No, no, no.
Auditing the election and having what?
The votes looked at.
So the valid votes were then counted and the invalid ones were not counted.
And those who have been around long enough, like myself, remember when they actually did this in 2000, yet we now live in a post-truth world in which the president of the United States at the time is not allowed to question the election and is immediately not only censored, but then demonized and now being charged on a multitude of levels.
Talk about that and much more is Seth Holehouse, maninamerica.com is the website.
Seth, thank you so much for joining us.
And what are your thoughts right now that we have four separate criminal cases, all based on essentially freedom of speech issues and really the audit of our system that's supposed to be a quote-unquote constitutional republic based in democratic values?
And yet the one person throughout history who's really been protected, no matter what kind of crimes they actually committed, no matter how horrendous the drone bombings were or atrocities, we've never done this to a former president.
And now we have four separate cases just before the 2024 election cycle.
What are your thoughts?
Well, first off, Jason, I just want to thank you for having me here today.
You guys are doing a fantastic job getting this kind of information out there because as you know very well, you're not going to see us on Fox News.
What you're going to see on Fox News is, oh, hey, look, we're calling Arizona, right, for Biden.
Exactly their playbook.
So there's a a few things I look at when analyzing the situation with these indictments.
Uh, the the big one though, I think, is that they're desperate now, not to say that they're they're weak.
Right, you know that there's a.
You can be strong and have a lot of strength and have a lot of control over our agencies, over the courts, but you can still be desperate.
And why do I say they're desperate?
Because they're losing control of the narrative.
And if you go back to 2020 and you look at all the different things they did to cheat, to get away with that, it's easy to think that oh, the reason they got away with it was because they had control of the court system.
The reason they got away with it because they had all these corrupt.
You know Soros appointed Das and everything like that but I think fundamentally, the reason they got away with it is because it came down to we, the people, and they were able to control the narrative, so that enough of enough of the Americans looked at this and thought yeah, Trump lost.
You know Biden, Biden won, Trump lost, and you know Trump is now trying to cheat to overthrow that.
You know the election.
If you fast forward to where we are right now.
We've now been, you know, a couple of years under the, the Biden regime.
People look around.
I'm seeing so many indicators that people that voted for Biden, that used to hate Trump, are now coming out.
Maybe they don't love Trump, but what they're saying is that this guy in the White House is destroying our country and I will vote for anybody that runs against him.
Okay, but also, if you look at where we were at in 2020, think about the media landscape in 2020.
Think about how many eyeballs were stuck on CNN and FOX NEWS, and it weren't watching independent media channels like what you guys are doing.
Looking at where we are right now the, the the ratings have plummeted for these big giant fake news corporations.
People are no longer watching them.
Of course, you have that small sliver of the population that they're going to watch CNN and Anderson Cooper, no matter what they tell them.
Right, the next is going to be, wear a diaper on your head to avoid the next pandemic, and they're going to do it.
That's a small portion of the population though, and I think that there's a lot of people though, that are questioning, and they're I mean, look at Tucker.
Look at the amount of views Tucker's now getting on Twitter after leaving FOX.
He's getting, you know, sometimes 50 60, 70 million views of his shows, which is way beyond what he got as your kind of headline person on FOX NEWS.
So I think that what this means though, what this shows me, is that they're getting so desperate because, even if they have all these mechanisms in place to really try to be able to steal the election in 2024, the fact is is that will they get away with it?
And and I think that they're in a position where they won't be able to it doesn't matter how many judges are bought off, or you know how strong CNN is going to go in and fight for them, or how well FOX NEWS is going to stand up and make sure Biden gets into office.
I think there's enough people that see through the situation now that are seeking out the truth.
You know you've got you know, Elon Musk, with Twitter, for instance, which is now becoming a massive platform for people to discuss election fraud vaccines, all the things that, in 2020, you couldn't talk about.
If you did, you were canceled.
So I think that these indictments are just this, this significant indication, Indication that they are trying to do anything possible to make sure Trump is not even able to run in 2024.
And my concern, because I think that a lot of these indictments, Trump just has this magical way of dodging them and getting around them because they're faulty, they're fake, they're made up in many ways.
My concern is: what are the next level of resort?
What are they going to resort to next?
Is it going to be assassination attempts?
Is it going to be, I mean, it could get ugly, which I think that that's the case.
I think 2024 is going to be an ugly year because this is the end game for them and they're going to have to pull all the stops.
Because if Trump gets back in 2024, 2025 and has his four years, I think that he's going to dismantle things like we haven't seen before.
So there's a lot there.
First of all, let's talk about the desperation.
I don't see it as much as desperation as to the fact that I believe, and I said this immediately, he obviously won in 2020.
He talked about the mechanisms still being in place, possibly to rig the election.
And I've been talking about, for instance, machines, and that's just one issue.
Obviously, they expanded that later, but they've been around for 20 years.
The name wasn't Dominion.
Back in the day, it was Diebold.
So we need absolute reform on that first and foremost if we want true, free, and fair elections.
Now, secondly, when we talk about desperation, I don't know that it was desperation.
I think that they would have left him alone had he not decided to run in 2024.
And they were pretty vocal about that.
You know, they would have left him alone.
And that's why they held back on the more serious indictments, not just as a political tool, but also to give him a chance to get out, back out.
But now they're going to run all of these things during primary season.
Now, they've already kind of built up this mythos around Ron DeSantis.
He's clearly their establishment pick that they're trying to say, no, this is your alternative, and he's going to be your primary guy.
You know, I brought this up with Roger Stone probably eight months ago.
And he said, look, even if they arrest him and put him in jail, nothing stops a felon from running for president, which is an interesting take.
But we're already in a system that's unprecedented.
My generation, our parents' generation, and by the way, our grandparents' generation, many of them who came over here, they would be the only ones that really lived through a time period where prime ministers of other countries or presidents of other countries were put in jail.
Still has never happened here.
If that happens in here, it's a total change of the landscape.
And, you know, using Roger Stone as an example, I'm not so sure that this time he gets out of it.
Obviously, the impeachments were fraudulent, and so was Russia Gate, provably so over time, to the point where really you just have the mockingbird media putting out talking points based on false information, kind of Bernesian style, that people would then parrot to this day.
But there was never criminal things there.
And even if there were, he's the president of the United States, he can basically pardon himself.
Now he can't.
Okay.
And you have Stone, who literally did nothing.
They had no problem putting him in prison.
And at least two of these cases, one, DC, just looks horrible.
But so many people, for instance, I guess had an arrogance about the Florida case, for instance.
And I think that those documents are also setting up a way to get Biden out after they rig the election for him, slyly install a newsom, say, after the fact, say, look, this was so bad.
We didn't really want to put Trump in jail.
But those documents, he shouldn't have had them.
We got him guilty.
Joe, just step down.
We don't want to admit he has dementia.
So really, they're lining up a bunch of cards against the guy.
Now, to me, the real question is not if, but when.
When they put him in jail, and you could say it's an if, what happens?
Because I don't think the country's ready for that.
I think that, for instance, you're very right in the fact, and I've seen it visually.
Trump's the most popular president in my 44 years on the planet, far surpasses Reagan.
You know, this guy was a cult hero before this and really only increased in popularity once he was able to have that political capital and deliver on a lot of the promises he made in the very beginning.
He was far from perfect, but people had more money in their bank accounts.
He did rip off the facade of the mainstream media that was constantly pro-establishment and pro-war.
So I know that was a rant right there, but what happens if they do actually put him in jail?
Number one, can he get the primary?
Because that judge in Florida ain't slowing that case down either.
It looks like it's going to happen.
They're trying to pile them all on at once.
He's trying to get 2016.
I don't think it's going to happen.
They've already kind of faltered too.
Said they were going to put out a lot of documentation this week on Monday in a press conference.
Didn't do that.
I think it's going to be one of those deals where the judge just says, nope, you're not allowed to present that.
No, you can't present that.
Nope, nope, no standing there.
Go, Seth.
I mean, that's the big question.
And I wish I had the right answer for it.
I mean, can you know, again, like what Roger Stone told you, and I've had a lot of folks, you know, tell me in conversation is that, yeah, he can still run.
I mean, he could still be elected president from prison, which is interesting.
I think it's been done before.
I mean, again, you make a good point, too, that, you know, when was the last time you can remember a, in the modern day, a leader being arrested and put into prison and still kind of going through with everything, still being able to lead the country.
I mean, this is stuff that you'd hear about, you know, looking at the Bible or reading ancient historical documents from what happened in ancient Rome or civilizations hundreds or many hundreds of years ago, if not thousands.
And so, you know, it's, it's the, it's, it is the big question.
And one thing that I'm seeing, though, is, is that every time it's like the deep state is, they're still bound to the same laws.
Like, I think, you know, kind of heaven's laws that you and I are bound to.
I think one of those laws goes back to Newton: that every action has an equal and opposite reaction.
And that's something I'm watching for with this because you can see it.
It's almost like every new indictment they give him, you look at the polls and his support goes up.
And so if they put him into prison on some Trumped-up charges, I would imagine that the support for Trump, you know, let's just say right now he's got 60 or 65%, you know, nationwide.
You know, of course, the polls are going to tell you otherwise, but maybe it gets to the point where as you get closer to that election time, maybe he's done a few months in prison and maybe three quarters of the entire country is actually becoming pro-Trump.
Now, again, when I mentioned it 2024, it could get ugly.
And this is the kind of scenario we're getting to because what happens in a country when a leader like President Trump, let's imagine at that time that, you know, of course, Biden's not going to be out campaigning.
He's going to be in his basement.
Want Civil War? 00:03:37
You know, media is losing control, as we already talked about.
So let's imagine that by that time, 75% of Americans are actually thinking, gosh, I think I'd rather have Trump in office than Biden.
And if he's sitting in prison, I mean, I think part of what their goals are is: A, they don't want a 2024 election.
They want some reason to cancel the election, which again, that goes back to if you look at countries that are run by communists or have been overthrown, you'll see it's not uncommon for them to say, okay, we're going to cancel the election for these reasons.
I think COVID was a big part of that too, how they can, they couldn't cancel the election in 2020, but they could certainly change everything about it to benefit them.
So I think that they're looking for ways.
Think they want civil unrest.
They want some sort of civil war.
They want people to be so angry at what they're doing to Trump that they take to the streets and maybe there's violence because that then gives them the opportunity to bring in whatever military is still really going to follow the orders of this current administration.
I think it's whatever portion of it, they're still there.
There's still a large portion of the military that would follow orders coming from Joe Biden and his people that he has running the military.
But it might be the perfect opportunity for them to say, you know what, we need to get these UN troops coming in, or we need to have Chinese come in.
I think that they're looking for any opportunity they can use to really bring the United States to a point to the brink of civil war.
And that's one of my concerns: is that when you get to that place where you're approaching the election and you have this guy that now most people know is for the most part innocent and definitely not guilty in a way that would have him in prison for a 10-year sentence or whatever it is, I'm just worried about what type of turmoil our country could descend into at that time.
So you talked about narrative control.
And you were mentioning, for instance, how many people have shifted to Trump that may have supported Biden in the past.
I would make the argument that many people did that in 2020 in the first place.
I watched all those primaries: 300 Joe, babies, and record players, and a man that clearly had dementia then.
I honestly didn't think, and I got this one 100% wrong.
We're all human folks.
I don't get it all right.
That there was no way that they could have this guy as the nominee.
I thought, hey, maybe they're going to go with a Corey Booker, Kamala Embarrassed ticket.
It checks all the identity politics boxes, but those guys are incredibly unpopular.
Even Joe was incredibly unpopular.
I thought Grandma Oatmeal, Elizabeth Moran, they'll put her in the forefront.
She checks a lot of boxes.
No, didn't go with that.
They went with the full-on puppet that did not have to even campaign.
Now, I will grant people that there was a massive influx of TDS, Trump derangement system, because or syndrome because of the mainstream media.
And that maybe affected 20% of the voting populace.
But how many people are really politically involved?
That's the thing.
You know, are 30% of the American public engaged?
When you see the turnout of this election, even with the mail-in ballots, it's kind of absurd, right?
Especially with the 81 million.
And I just saw people on the other side, and I traveled the country that were registering to vote to make sure Biden didn't get in because they saw the fix was in against the other guy, period.
So from, you know, he comes from a place of strength in 2020 as the president.
I think if you do an audit, he may have won 48, 50 states.
Control of Elections Speech 00:03:36
Let's be real.
You know, Joe wasn't popular then.
So, based on that, I think that they're going to try to have the same type of narrative control.
Obviously, they've got to push initiatives, if you will, to have more control, not only of the systems that count, but then any kind of audits after the fact, right?
And yes, they were able to control the media in large part during that season by not allowing and censoring, questioning the election.
But you mentioned Musk.
And quite frankly, although some of those things are, you know, able to be discussed, I think freedom of speech and not reach is a very, very low bar.
So we got to take a break.
I want to discuss that and more and put Trump and Twitter on the table.
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It is making sense of the madness.
Seth, you know, we're talking about Twitter at the end there.
And right now in the Georgia case, they are going to the president's tweets.
They're also saying private DMs.
They're on the table.
We got access.
We're looking at all this stuff.
So no more private communications.
You should have known that when you were taking part in tech companies that are really Trojan horse civilian systems of the military industrial complex.
But right now, basically, they're saying speech is some kind of overt criminal act when you're questioning elections.
Obviously, historically, that is not the case.
This could go even beyond the absurdity of charging Donald Trump with disenfranchising voters by questioning the election in D.C. Disenfranchisement simply used to mean that you don't feel represented by the political system.
Again, I haven't for decades.
Now, apparently, it means that you're depriving an individual of the right to vote by talking and suggesting ideas, which also suggests to me that we no longer have free will in this country either.
Forget about it.
It's the inversion of reality.
But they've taken it a step farther in this Georgia case, where you have a RICO case.
It's not just against Trump.
It's basically going to fish for other crimes amongst the other indicted to try to have them flip on Trump on other supposed crimes.
And I think keep this going no matter what the outcomes of the trial are.
Unified Ledger Concerns 00:15:01
So my question to you is, you know, you look at Twitter, it has improved.
You know, there's no more fact checks on the side by Reuters and NPR and USA Today and all that Johnny nonsense.
But at the same time, you really haven't been able to look at the infrastructure.
Even Tucker did a short piece talking about how the former NSA, FBI, CIA members were still in there.
And I still believe people are being suppressed and certain subjects are taboo.
And yes, they may promote people on the right or the left extremes that are suggesting corruption and truth, perhaps on both sides, but they don't really amplify those in the middle that are showing corruption on both sides.
You know, it's interesting because when Elon Musk took over Twitter, I'm sure you saw this as I did too, and a lot of the, especially the more alt-right channels and social media, they were praising him as coming in and he's taking down the deep state and he's going to open it back up.
And it seemed like it was this really significant, you know, this event that Elon Musk became really the new hero.
He was the new meme hero and there's memes going around over him.
And personally, I don't trust him.
I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.
When I look at his background, if I look at what he's doing with Neuralink, if I look at what he's doing with Starlink, I mean, these are things that are concerning to me because let's right now, you know, everyone's not everyone, but most people are focused on the issues that are staring us right in the face, right?
The left versus right issues, the issues of the LGBTQ, the transgender movement, the things that are really glaring, you know, right in the forefront of our society that have become very divisive.
You know, there's a theater around it of this person coming out and saying this and a person getting fired for saying this at their job.
And a lot of the mainstream discussion and the mainstream talking heads are very focused on this.
But if you say, okay, what's the real threat to our country?
It's not this.
I mean, in my opinion, this hasn't even come close to it.
My biggest concern is the growing technocracy.
That's my concern.
It's the ability for whatever regime is in charge.
It may not even be Joe Biden.
It could be Klaus Schwab.
It could be the Chinese Communist Party.
It's the encroachment upon our technology in a way that they can then control us with this technology.
And if you look at China's social credit system, that right there tells you everything you need to know.
If you jaywalk across the street in China, as you're walking across and it catches you, it shows your face on a little mini billboard, docks your social credit score, and sometimes even docks your account to take money out of your account because you've been fined automatically for jaywalking.
That's the system.
I mean, you think about Blade Runner, these futuristic scenarios where people are literally controlled by the technology.
That's my concern.
And so going back to Twitter, you know, what worries me is: has it become a forum that is setting up the stage for a social credit system, right?
You know, Elon Musk, obviously, he's renamed it to X now.
What is X?
It's the everything app.
You know, there's a lot of information coming out about their ID.
They're authenticating using Israeli technology to get you to authenticate using a selfie and your driver's license.
It's like, well, if you look at what is the future of X, what is X as the everything app?
Well, it's really, it's what WeChat is over in China.
WeChat is their everything app.
It's social media.
You can order an Uber.
You can manage your bank account.
You can send a friend money.
I mean, it's like combining Uber and social media and PayPal and Venmo, all that into one.
But the thing is, is that that's how people are controlled is through that app.
And so, you know, there was a campaign at one point under the communists in the Chinese Communist Party where what they did is they invited all the intellectuals.
They put out this open call and said, look, if you know how to better run our government, if you have ideas on how we can improve in running our government, now, granted, this time this was under heavy-handed communism, please come out to these open forums and we'll allow you to speak.
And what they did is they took the names down of everyone who came out and they went and killed them all, right?
Because that was their way of bringing forward all the people that were independent thinkers so they could then put them on a list and eliminate them.
And so this is, again, one of the concerns I have with Twitter is like, is this part of what it is?
There's a lot of people that are thinking, oh, wow, Twitter, like you can say anything now.
I can talk about the elections.
I can talk about the Nazis.
I can talk about the vaccines.
And they're just dumping everything out there.
And my concern is: is this just allowing it so they can build profiles on all of us?
And so that way, when they do enter into that step where they want to implement their social credit system and the Twitter X everything app is going to enter into its next stage of social control, are we then going to look at it and say, oh my goodness, we fell for it so quickly.
We didn't even see it coming.
Well, some people did.
But that's my, so again, this is my concern with Elon.
And so I would like to hope that as we get into the 2024 election season, we're allowed to have these discussions.
But, you know, you've now got Twitter being run by a woman that is heavily involved with the World Economic Forum.
So, you know, there's a lot of things that really make me pause and kind of have a concern about what the end goal is with Twitter.
Well, I think that you've actually really identified what the end goal is because Musk has openly talked about it.
And let me give you a whole bunch of more reasons to be concerned about Elon Musk.
I'm not going to give him the benefit of the doubt at all.
He increased his wealth 600% during the COVID-19 44 nightmare, more than any of the other billionaires out there, including Bryn, Buffett, and Gates, which many people are aware of.
You talked about Neuralink.
Yes, that's a big issue because that is DARPA-driven technology and really being passed off to him on a consumer level, whereas he works with DARPA and NASA on a number of programs.
You talked about Starlink, which has its heaviest concentration inside of the Ukraine while they're hooking up to the Ghost and Sidewinder missiles.
That's mainly what SpaceX is doing.
But they're openly on the ride-along program as well with their blackjack spy satellites.
Now, how did he increase his wealth so much during COVID?
Well, Tesla, which is not really a car company, that's only part of the agenda.
It's the green car company, very Klaus Nuchwab.
That company is actually what?
Building factories, micro-nano factories to print up the vaccines with CureVax.
So he made a ton of money on that, printing up the bio-nanotech.
Again, driven by DARPA, partnered with Moderna in 2013, strategic mRNA collaboration, BARDA, Merck, AstraZeneca, Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, Institute Pastor, all of those organizations, which he made a bunch of money on.
And then Tesla also is building Optimus, the human-like robot.
Look, you want to bring in automation?
You want to bring in robots?
Shouldn't they do things we can't?
Like, I can get the robot dog, as scary as it is with the mounts.
It performs a function outside of a human.
Why are you making these things look like human beings?
Obviously, that is to promote transhumanism.
So I could continue.
I don't even consider it a lot of people use technocracy as a term.
I, you know, and believe me, I do stuff on Technocracy Inc., Howard Scott, where this comes out of, a lot of eugenics stuff.
This is a technopoly because these big tech companies, I would argue it goes beyond what we've seen in the Congress and the Senate.
For instance, are you aware of the signature reduction program?
No, I'm not.
So nobody seems to be aware of this program.
I wish I had the article on tap right now.
We use a lot.
Newsweek two plus years ago revealed that there's actually a secret military program run by the Pentagon of over 60,000 people running foreign and domestic here in this country.
Okay.
And they're part of some of the biggest name companies out there, sometimes in military uniform, sometimes not.
Now, it's an extensive article how they have basically a back door in all the digital infrastructures of identity.
So while you're giving up all your information and you're building up a social credit score, if you will, that will be used, these people actually can get around the biometric identification.
Now, they do have the physical masks.
They actually show them.
Okay.
And a lot of people are going to be like, wow, that's crazy.
The thing that scares me more is they actually have physical hand gloves.
So you think you're looking at a hand, and this is a DARPA-driven technology.
And it's so thin, you'd never know.
You can put anybody's biometric information on it, and it actually emits human oils.
Meanwhile, they're also the bot Army Online.
Now, this program has been out there for over a decade.
It has had no oversight in Congress or Senate and no hearings.
And like you said, you're unaware of it.
So, this is a program where you have the military inside God knows where doing God knows what.
But I think we would be naive to think that they're not in the Google's, Twitter's, Facebook's upstarts, especially because Google itself, you know, is a product of CIA funding through Incutel.
And Google itself has many military industrial complex contracts, some with NASA on quantum computing and artificial intelligence.
So, you know, this stuff is.
It's out there in the public arena, yet it's kind of in the backdrop and not amplified or discussed in these social media networks, which really gives them, I think, a narrative advantage so that you can't question, say, a Peter Thiel, you know, Trump's technology advisor.
Doesn't matter he's palantier.
Doesn't matter he sits on the steering committee of Bilderberg on the opposite end of Eric Schmidt.
You know, these are issues.
You know, you talked about biometrics and social credit score.
Are you aware of WorldCoin?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
And the people lining up.
I mean, that shows you people lining up to get their eyeballs scanned so they can be part of the new cryptocurrency.
I mean, it's sheet basically.
Lining up for a steampunk crystal ball-like device that literally looks like it could harness your very soul.
And it's taking your biometric information and then it's verifying it you're human.
You know, you mentioned Musk doing the same with the WeChat app.
Basically, this circumvents it.
This is Sam Altman, the new Bilderberg bro that is speaking in front of Congress the week before that, launching it.
And then it's on the UBI, the universal basic income, which is another mode of centralized control of social credit score, where it verifies your human for democratic purposes as well, also in the mission statement, but then gets you in this system of a globalized blockchain currency.
Are you aware of the WEF promoted refugee world food program that runs on the blockchain?
Only slightly.
I think I saw there's some pilots of it where they had that running.
So they've been running it.
I mean, now for two plus years.
But the thing is, instead of the cute little Lochnar orb, they just have the standard run-of-the-mill biometric scan, scans your eyes.
And now you have all your transactions, including where you sleep and live at the refugee camp, what food you're allowed to have, and the jobs they allow you to go on based in this blockchain system.
And they partnered with the IMF to cut costs.
So these are the issues because they're happening right now and they're pushing forward.
And they're no longer just say in beta during the war of terror, where a lot of this biometric stuff was tested on the Afghanis and the Iraqis, not put into blockchain form, but now it's in blockchain form and now it's in consumer form.
And what really frightens me, though, is the BIS unified ledger.
I'm not sure if you've dug into that yet.
Sorry, Bank of International Settlements.
It's like, so everyone, you know, there's this great concern about central bank digital currency, which yes, like I'm on the front of the list.
I talk about it probably every other episode.
It's like, this is the threat.
Like when they can control everything about our spending, monitor everything about our spending with a programmable token.
That's a very, very, very dark place.
But then you take that the next step with, which was the announcement this recently, the BIS unified ledger, which basically they're talking about putting every asset into this unified ledger.
So you could take this and let's just extrapolate the data a little bit.
And, you know, it's like this mouse on my desk.
Eventually they could say that we are now aware that you own this mouse.
It's part of our unified ledger.
It's one of your assets.
And if you are not complying with our social credit guidelines and being a good little sheeple, you're going to be removed of your access of that.
So Real estate, trust funds.
I mean, so much of what we have, so much of what gives us our individuality and our ability to be self-sustaining.
They want to take these things and put them onto this unified ledger and have it be programmable.
So, what that means is like they talk about you'll own nothing.
I mean, they aren't joking.
They literally aren't joking to the point where imagine in the future where you don't even hold the title to your house, where your house is just another asset on their unified ledger.
And that unified ledger, you better believe is going to be intimately tied to your social credit system, to your social profile, to your spending abilities, to what you're purchasing.
You know, you already have been coming out and talking about how central bank digital currency can be a great tool to even monitor who's buying ammunition.
It's like, so, okay, well, they can't get rid of the Second Amendment.
They're trying, and all the false flags, all the stuff they're pulling to get rid of the Second Amendment.
So, well, okay, well, how about if we just stop you from being able to purchase by taking control of all currency and assets?
I mean, that's what that's what really, really concerns me.
And what concerns me the most is how few people are actually talking about this.
You go look at a presidential debate, you look at any of these people that are talking and the talking heads.
Very few people are actually talking about how massive of a threat central bank digital currency and these unified ledger programs are.
And that's what concerns me because I think that we will be blindsided.
Where it's like, look here, not here.
Everyone's focused on the trans stuff and the kids and again, important issues.
But if we're all focused on that and we get blindsided by the train over here, where you wake up and everything's been converted to these digital tokens, your dollar is no longer worth anything.
That's going to be the worrying thing for me.
Central Bank Digital Currency Threat 00:08:18
Absolutely.
We got to take another break.
And I want to talk about those programmable currencies and beyond because you mentioned, you know, basically they'll know everything you have.
You won't really own it, but they'll also be able to geolocate where you are at all times and perhaps not let you spend that tokenized money on certain things in certain areas, further constricting your freedom.
No more Fourth Amendment, no more freedom in your persons and property and beyond, folks.
This is the future that we're looking at unless we fight back.
We got to take a break.
We'll be back after this.
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Seth, I think that gradually we've kind of been weaned onto this system.
Obviously, it went from writing a check to having a card.
Now your little magic box here can pay for just about everything and scan away.
We've already accustomed ourselves, not myself, but many others.
They're sitting up there and using their face to scan it in, or they've given up their fingerprints voluntarily.
So you've already been trained to do that.
On top of that, our actual monetary system of private transactions has not only been demonized but marginalized and eviscerated of its purchasing power over the years.
I mean, let's be honest, the dollar is not what it used to be, but it's essential to have that type of currency that isn't fiat to be backed by something.
And when we let the International Monetary Fund over a decade ago start instituting what it was calling basically a zeros and ones currency, the SDR, the special drawing rights unit, we set up a system that wasn't blockchained yet, but essentially a bank with the power to just create currency out of nothing, loan it digitally to other banks and countries, and then accrue interest on that money that never existed.
Now we're putting it on steroids and every single microtransaction will actually be on this blockchain and basically be able to be audited later on and run an algorithm, not only on the individual, but the areas of spending and so many other things.
Oh, I mean, exactly.
And this, again, when you tie that to the social credit system, this is what gives them full control.
I think it was Kissinger who said, and I forget the exact quote, but something about control, you control the food, you control the nation, control the money, control something else.
And basically, you control the money, you control the world.
And it really comes down to that.
They're working on, if you look at what's happening with the food, they're laying out this plan to seize control of our food systems.
Is it a coincidence all these food factories are burning down?
All this is happening.
Of course not.
And they're doing even the blockchain foods they can track what you eat.
Okay.
So that's one big thing.
The energy, of course, we can see what's happening with the demonization of fossil fuels and the bringing in of green technology.
It's like, well, what's the greatest advantage of green technology?
It's that they can control it.
It's that they can remotely turn your Tesla car off.
They can remotely turn your air conditioning off.
They can remotely disable your ability to turn your power on in your home.
So again, it gives them that control.
But I think that at the center of this, it's the money.
And it's really, it's he who controls the money is who controls the world.
And that's how it's always been.
This is, you know, going back to Meyer to Rothschild talking about this.
If they can control the money, they can control governments, they can control people.
And this is the, I mean, this is the dream of the global communists is to have a system where they have that level of control through their crypto, their central bank digital currencies.
And this is, I mean, gosh, this is what also is just concerning to me because this is, again, one of these other aspects, one of these other issues where it's like, where's the discussion about this?
You know, even, you know, Trump, if I ever ever have the opportunity to interview President Trump, one of the first questions is going to be, what are your, what do you think about central bank digital currency?
Do you realize what threat this poses to everything that you're fighting for?
Everything that our founding fathers fought to establish, this undermines and just destroys all of our freedoms.
And it's a serious thing and it's staring at us right in the face.
I mean, it's right in front of us.
I mean, you have all the different CBDC pilot programs that have been rolled out.
You have the Fed Now that's been rolled out.
You have the discussion talking about this.
You even had Christina Lagarde, who runs the European Central Bank, talking about that people that are, I think she mentioned that it was anybody that does over a thousand dollar purchase in Euros, so in what she calls the gray market, over a thousand dollars would be arrested.
So, they're already lining, you know, they're lining the system up.
But the real question, and this is what, you know, kind of earlier we're talking about what happens if they put President Trump in prison, what happens as we approach 2024, it really comes down to the fact that we still have free will.
And it's my hope that enough Americans reject this system.
This is why I think it's so important to talk about these things because, you know, what it is, if you look at this communist system, it's a parasite.
But I think one of the greatest strengths of this parasite is its ability to cloak itself.
It's its ability to hide behind something that makes you think it's a good thing, right?
So, all these liberals and Democrats that are in this country, you know, you think that they're, it's easy to think, they want us to think that, oh, they're evil, they're the enemy.
Well, no, they've just been duped.
They've just been lied to, and they're convinced that this thing is actually a really good thing, the social welfare and open borders for immigrants that want a better life.
It's this parasite of this specter of communism that's hiding behind these things.
And so, my concern with the central bank digital currency is that, say, they get to a point where they want to roll it out, they're going to introduce a UBI, whatever it looks like.
That if enough people don't know what it is, they might say, wow, this is actually pretty good.
This is fantastic.
And let me have it.
Let me, you know, let me just join your mark of the beast system, right?
But, but if enough Americans understand what it is and they know what the threat of it is, and they're going to say, you know what?
No, we're rejecting this.
We're not going to partake in this system.
We're going to get out of your system.
That could be enough to stop it.
And that's where I hope that we're building up to that place.
I also hope we're building up to that place, but I got to be honest with you, after the COVID-19 nightmare, just the right disaster.
I think people will not only line up, but line up fervently and eagerly to get their comeuppance, to get their UBI, especially because we're in a society right now where so many people already feel entitled.
So many people are already on the dole.
So many people are, in fact, zombified and do not understand what's happening.
You know, you mentioned controlling the money system.
Patriot Business Owners 00:02:51
And I do believe that there is a predator class that is able to utilize basically their control over individuals in nation states so that we get this harmonized or globalized narrative that we saw pushed during the COVID-19 nightmare,
especially by the United Nations and the World Health Organization, which are essentially a mouthpiece for the agenda and the individuals and trying to put that spin on freedom and democracy and saving everybody on it.
We got to take another break.
We're going to come back.
We're essentially going to talk more about this new world order that they're building.
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making sense of the madness hi this is sean morgan and this is an amp consumer report we We interview patriot business owners who are creating a parallel economy.
I'm here with Jesse Siegel of Card Solutions.
And Jesse, we've had a big problem with financial institutions debanking patriot business owners.
This happened to me.
It happened to AMP News.
So it's good to know someone in your industry actually stands for freedom.
So if a patriot business owner already has a payment processing company, why should they switch to you?
Simply because I'm going to eliminate their processing fees.
Expensive credit card processing fees are hurting patriot businesses.
Right.
And tell me about the customer service because how does it work with the other companies?
Do they have to wait on the phone and wait for someone from a foreign country to talk to them?
Yes, the sales rep generally is not responsive.
They're not returning phone calls.
I handle it differently.
Available seven days a week for my customers.
That's great.
Seven days a week.
Usually that's not possible.
So tell me about the other aspect, the point of service in the merchant account.
I'm not familiar with this model, but you were telling me that you have one umbrella where it's tied together.
That's super important.
So a lot of times merchants are using an outside third party for their software hardware.
And I make it much better because it's one relationship.
The processor has a relationship with a point of sale dealer.
And so it's under one umbrella and they get a better experience.
This seems like a no-brainer, especially if the alternative is a company that doesn't share patriot values.
So thank you for helping us build a parallel patriot economy, Jesse.
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Making Sense of the New World Order 00:11:32
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You know, I mentioned the new world order, and that's not really tongue in cheek because I thought that that terminology was a goof until I started doing research on it and where it was being used and how essentially it was the effort to build a more harmonized global society under collectivism and eventually a one world government.
Now, you had its predecessor, the League of Nations, and then the United Nations.
And many people argued, you know, this thing was a paper tiger all the way up until COVID, when essentially it was utilized as a vehicle to be the pseudo-authoritative source to push that great narrative.
And governments and big tech companies alike obliged in lockstep with their recommendations and their authoritarianism.
So essentially, I would argue we're really living in the new world order and it has been visualized, especially because our own constitutional republic has clearly been subverted.
And we may have had puppets in office before, and I'm sure we have, and I could list off a bunch of them, but we've never had somebody that's semi-conscious, somebody that literally not only isn't running the country, but he couldn't run a four-hour shift at Wendy's as an assistant manager.
Let's be honest.
So what do we do about it?
You know, we talk about awakening people, but we've got a very short time period right now to try to rectify this, take back our institutions, hold some kind of accountability, and getting free and fair elections.
You know, I often talk about not looking to others and looking in the mirror and seeing what you can do in your local communities, your school boards, your city council, local elections.
That's all great.
They've weaponized the DOJ against us, you know, openly now.
So where are we?
And am I wrong to say we're actually living in the new world order right now?
No, I would unfortunately have to agree with you with that.
I mean, I think that we're already there.
It's not as strict and as tight as I think that they want it to be.
But, you know, you could say, okay, what does that mean to be the new world order?
Part of it is dissolving the nation states to have everything centrally run.
And so if you ask yourself, okay, well, America, no, America, we're land of the free and home of the brave and we have a constitutional republic.
But who's really running our country?
I mean, is it the leaders that we're electing that are representing us and they're running it?
No, you can see they're completely controlled by something other than the laws and what is set up here within our constitution and how our country is set up to run.
They're being controlled by this global system.
And I think that, you know, well, who's the global system?
Well, I think it's the European banking system.
It's these multinational corporations.
It's the corporatocracy.
I think that the Chinese Communist Party is heavily involved and infiltrated in that.
It's part of one of their goals because one of their greatest aspirations is to be the top of that, the tip of the spear, the top of the pyramid.
That's what they want to get to.
And so they're doing everything possible they can to achieve that.
But I'd say that we're already living in it.
Our leaders are not acting on behalf of the United States as a nation state.
What they're doing is that they're laying the foundation, they're tearing down the walls, they're tearing up the border, and they're allowing it so that America can slowly just fit into this one world government.
Where eventually, again, if you look at the World Health Organization, you look at the world, the different pandemic treaty that they're rolling out.
I mean, it's really about giving centralized power to a small group of individuals at a global level to control all the different countries.
So, no, we're there, but also I want to talk about solutions because that's a big part of this: is that part of it is, yes, knowing what's going on.
Yes.
Seth, let's just take a break.
We got to take one.
We're going to have a short segment to wrap this up.
That's what I want you to do.
I want you to focus on solutions in that short segment.
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of making sense of the madness, Now, Seth, I hate just bitching and moaning, complaining.
We have to do something, right?
I'm a solutions-based guy.
Like I said, you got to look in that mirror.
What can I do today?
We got about five minutes left in the broadcast.
Use that to talk about some of these solutions.
Well, it's a lot.
There are many things that we can do.
You talked about getting involved locally, getting involved in your school board.
Those are all really important.
But I would say that one of the big ways that I frame it is be uncontrollable.
Understand how they want to control us.
They want to control us through our energy.
They want to control us through our food.
They want to control us through our currency.
Be uncontrollable.
They want to control us through the technology.
Get outside of their system, right?
And this isn't really about prepping.
It's easy to say, oh, okay, prepping.
Okay, go get like 10 years of storable food and lots of guns and ammo, and you're going to prep your way through the apocalypse.
And I think that there's good elements to that.
It's good to be prepared.
But the way I look at it is it's about returning back to how humans are supposed to live, going back to the traditions of being human again.
And if you look at what their agenda is, they need to take us into this transhumanist future.
They need to pull us away from our roots, pull us away from our families, pull us off the land, pull us away from all the things that we have that we can do to live independent of them.
And so let's look at two people.
Okay, let's look at one person that's living in a big city, living in an apartment, can't grow their own food, works for a government job, and is trying to raise their kids, could be a patriot, but they're in that situation.
Now, if these creatures want to roll out the next stage of this pandemic or climate lockdowns or whatever it is, that person will be forced into their system, right?
They might wake up one day and maybe they only got a few thousand dollars sitting in their chase bank account.
They wake up one day, say, okay, that's been converted into a central bank digital currency.
You're now going to have to have your vaccine passport or your digital ID to get your food.
And your kids are now going to be required to get all these different vaccines to participate in the education we're giving you.
Like that person, it's very easy to control a person like that because of all the different ways all those control mechanisms are really in place.
Let's look at the other person, though, that maybe was in that place five years ago.
As we rolled up into COVID, they say, you know what?
I'm getting out of here.
They live on three acres out in the country.
They've got gardens.
They've got chickens.
They're collecting rainwater.
Maybe they've got a, you know, a backup generator.
They've got a few solar panels.
That person is way more difficult to control.
So if say they want to come in and say, well, we're not going to allow you to access food without a vaccine passport.
We say, okay, well, I'm going to grow my food.
Or you're going to say, well, I've already built relationships with my local farmers and I've built a community of people.
And so we're going to barter amongst ourselves.
I have chicken eggs, which I can trade to this farmer for milk.
And I can get milk from that person.
I can get beef from this person.
So it's building these parallel economies that will allow us to sustain this.
Talk about money.
I know you guys work with Kirk Elliott, great guy.
Getting your money out of their system.
Would you rather have $100,000 sitting in your bank account and wake up one day and realize that you can't access it anymore because it's been converted into digital tokens under the new digital currency?
Or would you rather have a portion of that money sitting as silver coins buried in your backyard that even if they wanted to, they couldn't find?
Because you better believe it that once they make these changes, once they want to implement these systems, parallel economies will emerge.
They always have throughout history.
And what that might mean is that, we talked about earlier, not everyone's going to go along with this.
So all those people that say, I'm not going to participate in this digital system, now before you know it, you can now trade that one ounce silver for half a week's worth of food, or you can trade it for gasoline for your car.
So that's a big part is just getting out of their system, becoming independent.
And why, you know, I say it means getting back to being human.
Look at how our grandparents and great grandparents live.
Like my great grandparents lived through the Great Depression.
How many of us would still survive through a Great Depression?
I heard stories from my great grandmother, how she was going out, they were fishing to feed themselves.
They were gardening.
They were so resourceful.
They had a huge stock.
She always had a big root cellar full of canned goods.
So if something happened, she had at least a year, two years worth of food that she processed herself.
So I think that, you know, again, it's not about just being these doomsday preppers, but it's about living in a way that we're able to take care of ourselves because when we can do that, we're removing the mechanisms that the government and that these psychopaths that want a one-world government, we're removing their mechanisms they would have to control us.
Absolutely.
The more independence you can maintain in your own life, the better set you're going to be for no matter what comes in the future.
Seth, it has been a pleasure.
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