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Aug. 19, 2023 - Info Warrior - Jason Bermas
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Bidenomics Blood Bath Exposed with Mark Schaftlein, Josh Reid, and Zak Paine | MSOM Ep. 812

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Welcome to Making Sense of the Madness.
We've got the trifecta for you today.
We've got Mark Shafline, Zach Payne, and Josh Reed to talk Biden and Beyond.
We'll be back after this to make sense of that madness.
Now, for those that are unaware, Joe Biden gave yet another riveting speech on his economic plan of Bidenomics in Milwaukee the other day.
While seeming to forget what island the disaster had occurred in Hawaii.
The man is barely conscious.
He says he's not going to be going down there anytime soon because he doesn't want to get in the way.
And what really strikes me is the stark difference in the way the media and even the celebratard culture out there has reacted when Katrina happened under the Bush administration.
People were up in arms.
And here we have a tragedy that may be much worse.
And they allowed this president who clearly runs nothing to just say no comment.
And we'll just give them $700 and everything will go away.
After all, Bidenomics is building the economy out from the middle with the middle class in mind.
And we're not all being economically devastated by inflation and beyond.
Here to discuss that and more is Mark Shafline of Shaflinreport.com.
Mark, tell me how great we're all going to be doing in about a week or a month due to Bidenomics.
Boy, I tell you what, it's just amazing because here's a guy.
If you really think about this for a minute, something is wrong with the messaging and something's wrong with the economy because the following things are happening simultaneously.
And just think about this for a minute.
We're sitting here at about 3.5% unemployment.
Typically, that would be a pretty good number.
But you have to ask yourself, why 3.5% unemployment?
And yet the middle class and lower middle class are stagnated.
Credit card debt is over a trillion dollars.
And while the president is out touting Bidenomics, someone needs to put a microphone in his vice president's ear, who on the same day stated 60% of Americans don't have $400 in their bank account and they're one paycheck away from bankruptcy.
Now, Jason, that's a tough thing to square when you see that.
Now, let's add a couple other things in it here.
You know, we had a roaring stock market.
Okay, that's great.
We had a lot of easy money for a while.
But we now have a situation where mortgage rates ticked above seven and a quarter yesterday.
Okay, that's the highest rate that we've had going back over 10 years.
Okay, so that's a big number.
And you say to yourself, okay, we got a housing problem in this country.
Why is the CPI index coming down?
And people cited used car prices and rents leveling off.
Well, I got news for you.
If construction is halted because these interest rates are higher and they have to be, you're not going to continue to see 3.5% unemployment.
That number is going to start ticking up.
And the much awaited, quote, recession that a lot of economists thought was going to happen in 2023, it didn't happen.
And you ask yourself, why?
Have you ever seen a recession when we had 3.5% unemployment?
I've been around a while.
No, I've never seen anything like that.
But the good news, if you're against Joe Biden and his economic policies are, as those rates stay higher for longer and it's time for the quote medicine that the Fed has injected into the system to work, you are likely to see unemployment ticking up.
And it's not going to happen in 23, folks.
It's likely to happen in 2024.
Oh, what do we have in 2024?
We have an election coming up.
So not only is the guy cognitively not there and we don't really know who's pulling the strings, but these economic policies, which are problematic and have benefited really the top, not the average American, we're going to see the results of that.
And we have a mainstream media that has totally ignored the fact that clearly this man runs nothing and is completely incompetent.
Let me add a few more caveats to the economic situation in the United States.
We've just been downgraded by from AAA to AA.
We now have Fitch saying they may downgrade the credit status of institutions like JPMorgan Chase and another one is JP Morgan.
That is also troublesome.
Obviously, they have a lot to do with home ownership and business loans to downgrade them could be disastrous.
And another one of the aspects that you really didn't discuss with the 3.5% unemployment rate is the fact that for well over a decade now, over 40% of the citizens in the United States of an adult age are under some type of government subsistence, whether that be the extreme of EBT and welfare or Medicare, Medicaid, and beyond.
That is a system in which you are trained to be dependent on the government and then accept the breadcrumbs that you're given.
Yeah, no, that's a great point.
And think about this too.
As baby boomers are retiring, okay, there's less people in the labor pool.
So by definition, remember like a couple months ago, everybody had signs, hiring, hiring, hiring.
You still see that.
So the ability to get qualified workers has been difficult on businesses.
Yeah, they managed to survive through various techniques of downsizing, right-sizing.
But at the end of the day, the United States needs quality workers to grow its economy.
Look, let me give you a couple examples here on a global basis because I know a lot of people like to talk, well, where's our place in the world right now?
Japan just came out.
I was just in Asia for three weeks.
Japan just came out with growth sitting here at 1.5% a quarter, which is 6% annual.
Japan's never had growth like that.
Now, let me contrast that with two of its neighbors.
China, you saw China's central bank had to cut interest rates.
Why?
Massive youth unemployment in China.
Why was that?
Those crazy COVID policies that the Chinese Communist Party implemented, they have been very slow to recover from that.
And did you catch what happened yesterday where the Russian ruble actually went under a penny to the dollar, meaning it took yesterday 101 rubles to get $1.
That had the Russian people just going crazy.
So what did Russia's central bank do?
Well, their key interest rate was around 8.25.
They raised it to 12%.
Imagine what would happen in this country if the Federal Reserve, which currently has rates around 5.25, spiked them overnight to 9%.
I mean, you have all holy hell breaking loose.
So now we have a situation where we have instability with the second largest economy in the world.
The third largest, Japan, is growing nicely.
The United States is sort of stagnated.
We're just muddling through it.
And you have to ask yourself this question.
Biden goes out and touts this bidenomics.
My take on it is most people see through this.
They know that a frail 80-year-old man that is clearly not there.
And again, Jason, I don't know who's calling the shots in the White House, but every time I look at him on camera, do you have any confidence at all that he really knows what he's doing?
When again, he forgets names, he forgets states, he forgets cities.
I mean, he forgets people he's even talking about.
So to me, it's a frightening scenario that this guy is the CEO of the United States.
And, you know, in every election poll, him and Trump are basically separated by less than two points, plus or minus either way.
Which doesn't make a lot of sense, but is being pushed by those in the media.
And to me, it's part of the great narrative.
We got to take a break.
When we come back, I want to talk about the stock market and how we have the guy behind the big short betting big against it to the tune, I believe, of $1.6 billion.
What does that mean?
Does he know something that we don't?
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We are back with Mark Schaftline.
And Mark, one of the other things that we didn't discuss about our economy is the fact that we had a massive influx of printed dollars during the COVID-19 nightmare.
And as you stated before, you had a rather lucrative stock market for some time.
Now you have the guy behind the big short betting big against the stock market to the tune of $1.6 billion.
First of all, what does it mean for the economy?
Can we recover with this massive influx of printed money?
And does it look like we could see a 1929 style event?
I would argue that would be difficult because as we saw in the beginning of the COVID-19 44 nightmare, every time the stock market appeared as though it was about to crash, they just shut down Wall Street.
That was unprecedented.
It's still not discussed.
You know, that was kind of alarming.
It set a bad precedent.
Could we see something like that in the near future as well?
You know, you can always see black swan events, but I'm sort of in your camp, Jason.
I don't see us having a 1929 style event because the government throws so much money at these problems.
Now, let me share with you what I think can happen.
Okay.
We threw $6 trillion, $6 trillion at the COVID problem.
Okay, people can debate right, wrong, or indifferent, but at the time, you know, when you literally shut down a country, there has to be some type of economic engine going.
So the government printed a lot of money, gave out a lot of money.
There was a lot of fraud.
Some of it were loans that are being paid back.
Some of it was gifts.
You know, the story.
But one thing is happening now that rarely happens, and we're going through, and it's not publicized a lot, but it's called quantitative tightening.
That's when the Federal Reserve actually is reducing the amount of money in circulation.
Now, we had, remember when we had the debt crisis about a month ago and they got kept saying, well, we're running out of money.
We're running out of money.
And they got pretty close to it.
A lot of that was not hyperbole.
What did they do as soon as Biden signed the bill that McCarthy and Schumer pushed through?
Boy, did they flood the market?
They're out there selling bonds left and right to finance pent-up spending that has been passed by Congress and bills that came due because they got to a point where literally they were going to have to stop paying some bills.
What does that do?
When it actually drives up interest rates.
Bill Ackman, a noted Wall Street veteran, billionaire investor, he has bet big against interest rates and anticipating that rates are going to rise.
That's called shorting and shorting interest rates.
Because if you're betting, it's an inverse relationship.
If interest rates are going to go down, you go long.
Interest rates are going to go up, you go short.
Ackman, who has quite a track record, is saying, you know, rates are going to tick higher.
He feels that the 10-year bond could approach 5%.
Well, I got news for you.
If he's right about that, then you're going to see mortgage rates north of 8%.
And Jason, we don't need to remind our viewers, but there's a relationship between stocks and interest rates.
And it's a powerful one.
Back when interest rates were near zero, well, hell, you could borrow money for free, put it in the market, and look at what happened.
This year alone, they call them the Magnificent 7, Microsoft, Apple, Amazon, Google, Meta, Facebook.
You know, I could go on and on, but those stocks represented the massive increase in the SP 500.
Well, you know what?
They're trading at astronomical values based upon their historical trends.
Let me give you an example.
Companies like Microsoft, like Apple.
Microsoft's not growing double digits.
Apple actually is declining revenue.
And yet they're being priced as though they're going to grow 30, 40, 50 times.
The SP 500 right now is trading north of a 20 times earnings for next year's earnings.
Now, I've posed this question for you.
If we believe that the economy could go through a soft spot in 2024, and I'm in that camp, I don't see it in 2023, but as the Fed continues to tighten a little bit and money supply decreases and interest rates go up, that's bound to have a negative effect.
Think about this.
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The Fed goal is 2% inflation.
We're not at 2%.
We're somewhere floating between 3.5% and 4.5%.
So you're double where it needs to be.
So the Fed, to me, has a lot more work and the stock market will be impacted by that.
So then what is the next step for the average consumer investor out there?
You know, you talk about some of the major tech companies being overpriced and then you have people betting against the stock market.
Are we going to see a massive correction in that arena?
Or will we see them continually propped up while others are gutted based on their ESG scores or their sustainable development goal adherence?
I mean, that's where I see everything going.
We can have boycotts or buy-ins, but at the end of the day, it seems like if you're playing the game, somehow your corporation is going to be propped up and protected.
And if you're not playing the game, you're going to be eviscerated and ended.
It's interesting you brought up ESG.
That used to be a hot buzzword a year ago, even as recently as six months ago.
Well, guess what?
Just like on cancel culture, how conservatives fought back.
State treasurers across the country, bear in mind, Republicans control, I think it's 28 or 29 state treasuries where the Republican in charge decides how Republican pension money is going to be invested and so forth.
Tremendous pushback on this thing called ESG, even got to the point where BlackRock, the largest money manager in the world, headed by Larry Fink, they don't even talk about it anymore.
When someone brings up, well, how are we doing on ESG?
They want to run away from it like an alligator's chasing them because it became so out of vogue, people realized, wait a second, companies aren't operating in the best interest of shareholders.
They're operating in the best interest of these woke investment companies who are pushing this crazy policy, radical climate change.
I could get into that forever, but I won't for sake of time.
But their agenda did not match with the shareholders' agenda.
And after some significant pressure by some of these state treasuries who have literally tens of billions of dollars invested in these funds, all of a sudden the ESG thing, well, it sort of is not on the hot burner anymore.
Don't get me wrong, they're still going to try to push it, but they're not going to make it the litmus test like they did previously.
Well, one of the other hotbed issues that I hear everybody talking about and one that concerns me is the idea of a CBDC or a blockchain-based central digital currency.
Now, I've been in this game for a very long time.
People have been predicting the end of the dollar for the past two decades plus.
I see more of a gradual transition, and I see a lot of beta test coins out there.
For instance, Sam Altman's world coin project for a UBI that's supposedly going to ensure democratic values has been launched.
What are your feelings on a blockchain-based central bank digital currency?
Is it something very far down the road, or is it something that we might see in the immediate aftermath of an economic disaster?
I think it's further down the road.
I think the left uses that as a scare tactic.
The central bank is exploring a U.S. digital type coin that could be part of the financial system.
But I'm just not in the camp of, you know, we're going to replace the dollar with a digital coin.
I know there's a great deal of concern about that out there, but I'm not in that camp.
I mean, I've traveled all over the world.
Again, I was in Asia for a few weeks.
Let me share one thing with you.
People still love the U.S. dollar.
Okay.
I mean, and we would meet friendly people everywhere.
We were in Korea, we were in Vietnam looking at different things.
Believe me, the U.S. dollar is a very well-respected currency, and people want to get their hands on it.
Look at what's going on.
Think about this.
Okay, the U.S. by far the largest economy in the world.
China's coming a close second.
Talk about difference.
I mean, people were talking about the Renminbi is going to replace the dollar.
No, it's not.
China, in their effort to continue their efforts on a global stage and eventually, look, it's no secret, China wants to be the top dog.
There's no doubt about it.
But with their economic policies, you know, China used to be what I call a communist country that embraced capitalism.
Xi Jinping has taken it in just the opposite direction.
Instead of opening up free enterprise to regular investors, he's taking it the other way.
So all the reforms that Deng Xiaoping put in place, and I'm throwing out a name from like 25 years ago, she is reversing those.
So I don't see China going that way.
And a lot of the speculation that came into coins, okay, that's okay.
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That's fine.
Some are legit, some are not.
But I just don't think, I think the U.S. dollar has a history.
It's got a track record.
Think about this.
We price oil in dollars.
Unless the United States makes a catastrophic mistake, and look, people can blame the Fed.
They say, well, the Fed kept things too loose for too long or they tightened too quick.
I sort of give the Fed a little bit of a little bit of credit because they've done some good things to correct their errors.
But I just, it would take something catastrophic, Jason, for me to believe that we're going to go to that type situation.
Now, with Democrats in charge, you know, anything could happen.
So I don't want to discount it.
And I would always take a certain portion of my assets and protect it.
And, you know, gold and silver are great ways to do that.
Mark, it has been an absolute pleasure.
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to come back with Josh Reed talking more Bidenomics after this.
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We've been talking Bidenomics and how we're all going to be doing so much better in the weeks and months to come.
Josh, tell us how Joe Biden's plan for America is going to bless us all, sir.
All right, by dynamics, Jason, it's non-existent.
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It doesn't happen.
What it is, is the destroying and the killing of the U.S. economy.
We have housing numbers, permits, industrial, manufacturing production numbers that came out just the other day.
And what do they do the month prior?
They lower and revise the expectations of last month.
So this is what they do.
They come out with these numbers.
Everybody's like, ooh, hee-ha.
Oh, the economy is so great.
Inflation's lower.
And all these numbers are looking really, really good.
But then the month prior, when they said the same thing, they're lowering and revising these numbers.
It's nothing more than market manipulation.
And this is what they do.
They typically do this on a Friday or a Saturday.
And listen, Joe Biden is abysmal to the United States economy.
And we've seen this over the last three years.
Jason, I was just listening to you and Mark, and you mentioned 1929 and wondering if something similar to that could happen.
See, the difference between now and 1929 is the Federal Reserve for well over nine years after World War I was pumping basically interest-free money into these banks, collateralizing the land that people had within their families for a very, very long time.
And they're doing it interest-free, and there is plenty of money to put out there.
And then in 1929, in October, the bankers called in all those loans abruptly and shorted the whole stock market.
And what happened is all those banks went bust and that collateralized assets transferred from those peoples, from those families into the hands of the bankers.
And see, we're not going to see something similar to that, but we're going to see something very, very similar to what I just said.
Now, you mentioned Michael Burry, $1.6 billion short on the entire market.
This is your sign.
This is the red flag.
This is time to wake up, people.
Michael Burry does not make mistakes when he puts that much money on the line.
If you guys know the big short, Michael Burry, he shorted the whole mortgage market back in 2008 before it all collapsed.
People thought he was crazy and he made billions off of it.
He's very methodical.
He's very strategic.
He times this very, very strategically.
Now, it's interesting that he chose this moment to do this because he's been talking about it for quite a few years.
And this is where you get into the kind of similarities between 1929.
We had a news report that just came out the other day that $1 trillion in deposits have left U.S. banks in the last year.
That's $1 trillion.
Jason, I know that you're familiar with the whole banking crisis that's been going on in this country, especially in February and March where these banks failed.
And the reason this happened is because deposits are leaving the banks.
That's the money that they're able to utilize as basically money to go out there and make profit, to give out to commercial loans, real estate loans, to go out there and buy bonds.
The problem was, is all the bonds that they had or bought back in 2020, 2021 are at a very, very low interest rate.
So when money starts to get pulled out of those bank accounts, they can no longer, they have to liquidate all those old assets, which are now underwater or bad, and they don't have the capitalization to pay off all those depositors.
And that's when the FDIC had to step in.
The government had to step in and insure those deposits.
Well, guess what?
A trillion dollars just left all of these big banks and they have bad underwater assets.
Well, where are they getting the capital from this?
That's the big question.
Here's the thing is the majority of these banks are going to fail.
And we're probably going to see this start to happen around the November timeframe of this year.
And I think this is why Michael Burry is going out there and doing what he's doing.
On the other side of the house, you have the Durban Summit on August 22nd coming up here with the BRICS Nations, where they're going to announce their global reserve currency.
This is the dollar killer.
This is de-dollarization happening in real time.
Why is this important?
Right now, there's a lot of different countries out there that have to keep the U.S. dollar on reserve.
The U.S. dollar has been weaponized well over the last 50 years and used to basically suppress countries when they disagree with the United States of America.
This is what we tried with Russia, and Russia laughed in our face, put the rupee against gold, and made negotiations with China and all these other BRICS nations, and they were able to get outside of U.S. sanctions.
Well, this is a telltale sign for all these other countries that they want to get out of the U.S. dollar because they don't want to be coerced into making decisions that's not good for their country.
So you have a certain amount of reserves that have to be left in place at these countries when they're taking in U.S. imports and exports or dealing with oil.
Well, that's all going to go away.
We're seeing the BRICS nations expand upon their wheat, their corn, their soy products, and growing these in various different countries and basically compensating for the imports that they would typically get from the United States of America.
Then we have a global reserve currency coming out with the BRICS nations.
What is this going to do?
It's basically going to take away the homogeny of the U.S. dollar globally within a very, very short time period.
And everybody who's in the economic system understands what effect this is going to have.
This is one of the biggest rushes for the CBDC because it can restabilize the U.S. dollar.
And Jason, I know you were part of the Ron Ball days.
You remember the Amero?
You remember TPP?
You remember the Amero?
Remember what they're going to do with all this?
I remember the talks of the Amero.
For those that don't know, this was going to be a coin that was going to be utilized between Canada, the United States, and Mexico.
And there was a lot of talk about it for a very, very long time, especially because at the time they were building a four-way highway system that was going to breach through and make better trade.
However, you had former FBI assets and disinformation agents coming out with pictures of the coin, right?
Oh, the Amero, it's here and it's already been minted.
So you got a lot of disinformation that was thrown in there.
But do you believe that there could be a push or a resurgence for some kind of a digital Amero coin if we had that kind of destabilization in our economy over the next several months?
Well, I think that it's actually the progenerator of it.
I think that the financial economic collapse that we're going to see, and I think that this is going to be a line in a multiple part strategy.
So we've all heard about the black swan.
We had Colonel McGregor, General Flynn, all talking about a black swan.
Now you have people in the mainstream.
Bongino has been out there just screaming like, people, wake up.
It's happening.
We're going to have some type of black swan event probably within the next three to six months.
And this event is going to usher in most likely some aspect of global war and global financial collapse.
Now, the timing for this just couldn't be any more perfect.
I mean, you have Donald Trump about to release the Trump card.
He's about to put all this information out there that takes down the deep state.
We have Joe Biden's information coming out, Hunter Biden's information coming out, the Committee on Weaponization of Government doing their thing.
There's a lot of things that are coming out right now about the deep state, about what's happening in this country, the transition to this country into communism.
And they want to shut this down and they want to get back control of the narrative.
And in order to do that, they need some type of major false flag black swan event where they can take back control of the information of the media.
They can shut everything down in temporal.
You know, Joe Biden just actually put out an executive order two days ago, basically giving the authority to Maorkis at the Department of Homeland Security or the Secretary of Defense in a time of war to basically appoint commissioned officers in the United States Coast Guard.
Now, typically, this isn't a strange phenomenon.
And when they do it, they usually do it with the Army, Air Force, and Navy all involved.
But this one was just a Coast Guard.
And the question you ask is: why would they need split-time decisions to basically appoint new officers, first-line leaders to the U.S. Coast Guard?
Are they going to see an influx of new officers into the Coast Guard over the next year period?
And if so, why?
What does that have to do with our maritime security?
We just had the XX amphibious group sent to the Persian Gulf to protect tankers, so forth.
I think that we're going to have something on the coastal lands, Jason, that is going to be a black swan event.
I don't know what it's going to be.
It could be something of an EMP, a nuke going off in the oceans.
It could be a tidal wave.
Who knows?
But something tells me that they're trying to ramp up maritime security, that there's a threat to maritime security, to the shipping containers coming into the United States.
Maybe the YJ-18 Chinese missiles launched from cargo ships as a threat.
Don't know, but we're seeing them boost up security off the coastlands of the United States within the water channels of the United States.
Now we're also seeing other indications that, you know, the war between Russia and Ukraine could expand beyond in the Poland.
And this is with the Wagner group in Belarus.
And, you know, we've had sentiment coming from Russia where they're going to go out there and tell Wagner to stop interfering with Poland and leave Poland alone.
And there's this big head hitting between Poland, Belarus, and Poland and Russia.
And so we're going to see them potentially try to escalate Article 5 of NATO.
One of my contacts told me the other day that most likely what we're going to see happening is NATO and U.S. troops move into Western Ukraine to basically secure it so that Russia cannot go into Kyiv and topple their government and replace their leaders.
And this would be an immediate, immediate action by Russia to wage war on NATO.
And if that did occur, you can see China boosting up alongside that very, very fast.
So we're in a very instable part of our world right now.
And just, you know, someone farts in the wind and everything can break out.
And we can see that Black Swan event happen, Jason.
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Well, Josh, we've got to take a break.
I want to thank you for joining us, but I think you're correct that if they were to get some type of catastrophic and catalyzing event like the one they discussed, I don't know, in the PENAC document, things could move rather quickly and definitely in the wrong direction.
We got to take a break, but when we come back, we're going to have AMP news contributor Zach Payne to talk Bidenomics and beyond.
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Almost 500 federal personnel have been deployed to Maui.
Tell communities and survivors get back on their feet.
FEMA, search and rescue teams are sifting through the ashes in that five-mile area that you see on television that's been burned.
It's painstaking work.
It takes time.
And it's nerve-wracking.
Most of the debris can't be removed until it's done.
My wife, Jill, and I are going to travel to Hawaii as soon as we can.
That's what I've been talking to the governor about.
I don't want to get in the way.
I've been to too many disaster areas, but I want to go and make sure we got everything they need.
I want to be sure we don't disrupt the ongoing recovery effort.
I don't know that Joe Biden could disrupt anything.
Obviously, this is a way to subvert the fact that he can't go there because he's not in great health.
He barely knows where he is, and he's being handled by those behind the scenes in a manner we have never seen before via the presidency of the United States.
To discuss that and much more is AMP News contributor Zach Payne.
And Zach, I got to tell you, my first two guests were kind of a bummer about this whole Bidenomics thing.
You've got great news.
It's sports cars and caviar for the rest of us, right?
Oh, that's right.
You know, from what I understand, everything is fine.
People are getting back to work again.
And Joe Biden is going to be giving $700 to every single family who lost a home in Hawaii.
I mean, we gave hundreds of billions of dollars to the people of Ukraine.
When you do the math, I believe that that's like a total of $1.8 million for the most devastated area in our nation right now.
But $200 billion to the people of Ukraine so that we can just blow up more tanks, get rid of a ton more missiles, and shed blood all over the battlefield.
It's incredible.
And, you know, we come from a very different time period, one in which when Katrina occurred, we couldn't be on the Bush administration soon enough.
And rightfully so.
I think that that was extremely mishandled.
You had within days, television shows trying to get money together for the Red Cross.
Oops, did the Red Cross steal a bunch of that money?
Just like they stole a bunch of money in their 9-11 fund and stole a bunch of money in their Haiti fund?
You bet they did.
But at least the facade was out there.
We're not even getting the facade from this president when a couple of days ago, he can be asked about Hawaii and with a straight dementia-ridden face, go no comment, and is absolutely 100% not questioned by the mainstream media whatsoever on this subject, Zach.
No, you know, I think you're right.
Joe Biden really doesn't have control over anything.
I think he has a difficult time disturbing his pudding at the end of his meal every day around 5 or 6 p.m.
But yes, it does seem like the mask is completely off.
There is no illusion that this administration cares about the people of Hawaii.
I think that it's quite clear that what we witnessed there was an event that was orchestrated, designed to ensure that that land could be snatched from those native Hawaiian people, from the residents of Lahaina.
There are reports coming from people who live in the area.
Apparently, the water was shut off on them as they were putting out the blames.
Apparently, the fire department was told to leave a fire that was not fully contained and telling people that it was fully contained.
I also saw a report from a man who was evacuating on foot, and he said that the police had been ordered to stop cars from leaving the neighborhood.
So they were essentially parked in the middle of this road.
There's only like two roads in the whole area.
You go in, you go out.
They were stopped at this intersection.
They were not allowed to continue on.
And everybody's just pretty as you please, believing that the people in Hawaiian government there in Lahaina and Maui are there to help them.
But very quickly, the fire reached the line of cars and they began to blow up as a result of it.
One other extremely heinous action that took place in Maui, Jason, because of the fires, they canceled school that day.
And so they sent all those children back home because the parents had to work.
They were all off at work while their kids were at home.
Many of those people, it's expected, that are currently missing and will be found dead are probably going to be the children who were stuck at home on that day and who had no idea that anything was happening because they didn't sound the alarms.
They didn't send out electronic notifications.
From what I understand, those sirens that they have for tsunamis and for hurricanes, those have like triple redundancy for power.
So they can't say that the power was out and that they were unable to sound those alarms.
They have stacks of car batteries inside them.
They all have solar panels.
This is a gross, gross, horrible, horrible situation.
And I just can't believe that this is what's happening in America today.
And by the way, for those that might doubt that there were nefarious undertones to this or it may have been done purposely to get that land, I do again want to invoke Katrina and remind people that there was plenty of evidence that they blew those levies up in order to save richer areas and devastate the poorer ones that were then just scooped right up by the real estate agents that had wanted them for so long.
And the massive amount of property that has been damaged here in Hawaii is on that coastline, which is obviously prime real estate.
And there have been many holdouts there in both the commercial and residential arena.
Well, Zach, they are holdouts no more.
No, I don't think they're going to have any chance or any choice rather but to sell.
From what I also understand, insurance companies have begun denying people's claims on their homeowners policies because they're being told only after the fact that they had some sort of violation on their property.
And that violation invalidates their insurance policy.
And so therefore, it doesn't matter how many years you've been paying into the system, the company is simply not going to honor that policy.
That gives those real estate developers, the robber barons that want to come in and scoop up this land super cheap, the opportunity to strike while the iron's hot.
They're calling the residents of Lahaina.
They're offering them to purchase their property because these people have no choice.
I mean, they've got nothing left, quite literally, nothing left.
And in some cases, they have nothing in terms of their families either.
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I mean, they are alone.
They are destitute.
They're being forced into these awful shelters that are being run by FEMA.
And the Red Cross is even refusing to accept donations so these people can survive.
$700 for a household to be given to rebuild their lives is just such a slap in the face.
Absolutely.
Let's shift gears a little bit.
Let's talk about the Biden crime cartel.
You know, Dementia Joe, he's long gone.
But we have all these hunter cases and ongoing investigations.
And right now, we rightfully so have the Republicans calling foul as to who they have put in charge of this investigation.
It's somebody who has seemed to already fail on the same investigation previously.
And yet, once again, in the mainstream media, you're not hearing anything about it, Zach.
I'm assuming you're speaking of David Weiss here in this instance.
You know, there's a couple of different ways you can look at it.
I think that initially, David Weiss was not provided the proper jurisdiction or the powers that would be necessary for him to adequately pursue charges against Hunter, especially outside of Delaware, where he's based as a U.S. attorney.
David Weiss gave signals to the other agencies, such as the IRS whistleblowers who were involved in this investigation to let them know that although publicly he's stating, hey, I've got all the authority I need, behind the scenes, he's saying, I don't.
They've got my hands tied.
So there's nothing I can do.
When we get to the date of the plea hearing, when Hunter was supposed to plead guilty to the tax charges and then the diversion on the handgun charge, when that happened, his lawyers assumed that he was going to get ultimate immunity for anything else beyond this.
Now, David Weiss had said previously to people in the public: you know, Hunter Biden is still an ongoing investigation and he is not immune from any charges, especially related to Farah.
That's what the judge honed in on and said, well, hey, you cannot get immunity for all of these other things.
If this is an ongoing investigation, which Weiss said it was, then you're going to have to go back to the table with the prosecutors.
I think that if David Weiss wanted this to go away, then he would have just given Hunter Biden whatever he said.
He would have said this investigation is closed.
These plea deals and the diversion, this dispenses with this investigation, and it's all over and done with.
I think it's quite clear that Hunter's team wanted one thing, Hunter wanted one thing, but the prosecution and the team that David Weiss is working with were not willing to give that to him.
And the judge also was not willing to co-sign on something that would be such a gross miscarriage of justice.
So now he's been given those special counsel powers.
He's able to charge in other jurisdictions.
And either he's going to bury this whole thing through investigations and keep it quiet and perhaps run the clock out on the statute of limitations, or he's going to do the right thing.
And he's actually going to charge Hunter Biden and the Biden crime family in the way that they must.
And the only way that we're going to know which those is to watch it play out.
Which is unfortunate because I hear a lot of hope in your voice, but I would have to say that your first assessment of having more jurisdiction actually using this as a tool to cover up these crimes or perhaps let some of them run out via the statute of limitations and go, oops, we just didn't get there in time.
We can fast track every single one of these Trump indictments, but we just can't figure out the Hunter laptop that we've had since 2019.
You know, that's where the rubber hits the road for me.
Obviously, Donnie T put out his little Manchurian candidate video yesterday in discussions of the indictments that are raining down upon him right now and said, obviously, these trials should not take place until after the election takes place.
I don't see that as a snowball's chance in hell, especially given the situations that have occurred over the last several weeks.
Before we go to break, do you think this is it for the indictments?
Or is there a possible fifth or even sixth indictment or case in the mix behind the scenes?
They're ready to just kind of throw at the wall as well and go, surprise.
I think that there's always the chance that they might bring more indictments.
I mean, they could easily do it in Pennsylvania.
They could do it in Michigan.
They could do it in Arizona.
I mean, why stop there?
You know, I mean, they're probably going to be willing to do it wherever they possibly can.
I don't think that they will be successful.
And I definitely believe that trials will take place before the election.
I think they're going to set it up so that it probably happens right in the heart of primary season here.
But yeah, I don't expect them to stop with Georgia.
If they believe that they can bring charges against him anywhere, I think they will do it because they're simply that desperate.
I absolutely agree.
We got to take a break, but when we come back, we're going to talk the case of the fake wait real, no fake indictment that got published on their own website, folks, eight hours before the judge opened it up and said, Oh my goodness, what do we have here?
We'll be talking about that and more with Zach Payne.
It's Making Sense of the Madness.
What should
people know about that whole blow up with Project Veritas?
I read a few people wrong, and that's my fault, but I learned from that, and I think I'll be a more effective messenger as a result of that.
That'll free me up to do the next chapter, the next stage of my evolution, which is OMG, which is decentralizing journalism.
Sometimes things happen for a reason.
That's my goal.
That's my mission.
And I didn't ask for that mission.
I'd ever thought that would be my mission.
It just has become my mission.
And I'm excited about it.
According to the Fulton County Clerk's Office that was circulated online with charges against former President Donald Trump.
Those that fictitious document matched exactly the charges that we now see in this indictment.
Can you tell us more about that document, Leak?
Because now you have the former president's lawyers who are saying this is emblematic of a serious problem with your office.
No, I can't tell you anything about what you refer to.
What I can tell you is that we had a grand jury here in Fulton County.
They deliberated till almost eight o'clock, if not right after eight o'clock.
An indictment was returned.
It was true-built, and you now have an indictment.
I am not an expert on clerks' duties or even administrative duties.
I wouldn't know how to work that system.
And so I'm not going to speculate.
Next question.
Have you had it in contact?
Not going to speculate.
Doesn't know how it works.
It's so weird that this fictitious document was the real document that was out there eight plus hours beforehand.
And it does seem a little emblematic of what's been happening to Donnie T and company.
Zach, to me, this just has the vast overtone of the fix is in.
And on top of that, this is the indictment in which they brought a slew of other people in.
My fear is that even if he's able to beat all of these cases, and now I'm not so sure with the way that they've already handled this one, I thought he had this one down, Pat, as it is absurd and ludicrous.
But with the RICO statute, really all you have to do is flip a couple other people that you've charged with these crimes, threaten them with jail time, and then say, tell me more about Donnie T, and then invent crimes from there, which again, we were talking about those new indictments, could come at any moment and any time once one of these people cuts a deal.
So, what are your overall thoughts now that we know about the indictments?
We know about the foregone conclusion, and we know about, I believe, it is the 16 plus others that are named in this indictment.
Yeah, I think it's actually 18, so 19 total, and then 30 unindicted co-conspirators.
So, those are 30 more people that they believe they could go and put pressure on.
And I think you're right with RICO indictments.
I mean, all they need to do is flip a couple people and then have them invent some charges.
The overriding issue with this case is that they're using all of these benign behaviors, like tweeting, asking for a phone number, sending a text message, you know, asking for an audit.
All of these things they're claiming are elements of a conspiracy, that somehow this was an organized effort to do something illegal.
But the behaviors they're describing have been used by plenty of people in the Democrat Party.
Stacey Abrams, both times she lost, she went about trying to get the results of the election overturn.
She started a nonprofit organization and she devoted herself to changing the election laws all around the country so that she would probably have an easier chance of winning in the future.
I think that the behaviors that they describe in this case that they claim are overt criminal acts are every single one of them completely benign.
They are First Amendment protected activities and the types of behavior that anyone who truly believes that they had an election stolen from them would most likely engage in.
So, I think that the charges themselves are so patently ridiculous.
And I have to believe that the people who are charged in this case, they've read the indictment.
Their lawyers are looking at this and they're saying there's absolutely no way.
Like they're charging them all, they're charging them and then they're trying them all at the same time.
This being broadcast on television, Jason, is going to be a spectacle to rival the O.J. Simpson case.
I think that the decisions they're making are not going to work in the Georgia prosecutor's favor.
And if you take a look at this law that was recently passed earlier this year about the removal of prosecutors who engage in behavior that is unbecoming of the office, I mean, I think that there are several of those instances that could be attributed to Fannie Willis and to her behavior there in the courtroom.
I mean, the fact that this was leaked eight hours beforehand, it proves once more to the American people that the ultimate decision had already been made.
Like the prosecutor's office probably got together 12 random people who were not Trump supporters.
They walked in and they handed them a list of charges, things that they wanted Donald Trump and his quote co-conspirators to be hit with.
And they made sure that that was going to be the result in the end.
As far as somebody leaking this online, I mean, either they are supremely stupid, and I don't begrudge them that possibility.
I mean, people can be a lot dumber than you give them credit for.
Or it's possible that maybe somebody working inside that clerk's office saw what was happening and said, you know what?
All I got to do is hit send here.
And then the world will know that this indictment has already been decided before the grand jury comes back.
And then it will give the American people just that much more of a clue as to what's going on.
I don't know which one it is, but I certainly hope it's the latter.
Well, you got me on that one.
I'm going to hope it's the latter too.
And I'm even going to say that's a stark possibility.
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But at the same time, never underestimate the idiot factor.
There are plenty of them.
We got a couple minutes left.
What did we miss this week?
What else do we need to know about Joey B, Donnie T, the 2024 election cycle, and more, Zach?
Honestly, I mean, that's what I've been focused on.
You know, I think that truly, at the end of the day, what we're witnessing is the desperate acts of a dying regime.
The people who are in power, they recognize the unwavering commitment of the American people to Donald Trump.
They witness the, you know, every single day, the undying level of just love and respect that the American people have for President Trump and their love of this country, and that their various elements that they're trying to inflict upon the American people, the changes to society, the destruction of the economy, the complete degradation and depression of Americans through the suppression of the economy.
All of these things are working against them.
And every single day, more and more people are waking up to the truth that we are living in a mirror world nightmare scenario, 1984 personified.
And we have an authoritarian regime in power that is willing to do anything, to fake anything that they can to destroy their political opposition.
I mean, America has become a meme.
It's sad, but I don't think that all hope is lost.
Well, it better not be lost because I believe in humanity and I believe in the individual and I believe in the constitutional republic we once were.
Zach, thank you so much for joining us as you do every single week.
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