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July 30, 2023 - Info Warrior - Jason Bermas

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Freaking Brain Chips And Aliens With Kurt Metzger

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	So this will be a good run to this.
	Well, it's funny you mention that because in my fucking derp dive into all this stuff that I was doing as a joke, because I was like, okay, I don't care about the Tic Tacs and shit, okay?
	And even though that's massive to come out and say what they said.
	I don't trust Elizondo or any of those guys, man.
	I'm talking about them. I'm talking about all the pilots.
	Oh, I think the pilots are seeing the real thing.
	I think they're testing their tech against them.
	By the way, the defying physics, I believe, I don't think they could do it in the 40s.
	I just don't. The people that get a...
	See, I sift through a lot of fucking big piles of shit and there's little corn nuggets in there.
	Delicious! Mmm!
	Yeah, and the thing is...
	Um, I don't think all the people are lying or delusional.
	I do not. Okay.
	I don't think they are either.
	Listen, hold on. Just like you were talking about with, you know, Sean Penn doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about and Moby doesn't.
	And like I said, Lazar, somebody who worked on, I totally believe worked on these craft, but never really saw an alien, but he was prepped to say that.
	So you only need a small...
	That's fair. That's a fair thing.
	And the other thing is this... I don't think they had their own anti-gravity they're trying to figure out, and they didn't know how to figure out their own technology of anti-gravity.
	Here's another thing that's a big problem for me.
	That when you're in these black programs, you've sold your soul.
	Okay? Period. But you're not just selling your soul on what you're doing.
	You're selling your soul to the government so they can experiment on your ass.
	So you don't know when, like, obviously the biggest, the Frank Olsen case is the most famous.
	That's the Central Intelligence Agency guy that was probably thrown out a window because of MKUltra and LSD, and they keep bringing that up.
	But my point being is, that's probably not an isolated incident, and people that are working for the...
	Well, I'm just saying that people working for the government in super secret programs, maybe NASA or anything else, propulsion systems, they could be drugged.
	And I don't know if you're familiar with Kathy O'Brien and Transformation of America.
	She's one of the alleged victims of the...
	Mockingbird project for MKUltra sex slaves.
	I remember her.
	I was just thinking about that the other day.
	I was like, because now all these people I thought were crazy, I've had to go back and look at what they said.
	Well, when you're listening to her, she talks about Clinton and the drug running at Amina, Arkansas, which is real.
	But when it gets to the kookier stuff of shape-shifting lizards, etc., etc., and all this other stuff, they're always drugged.
	Right? Like, they're always on drugs, and you don't know what kind of drugs there are, so now let's bring that back to guys working in these black projects.
	Not only could you genetically create whatever or have a corpse of something that's not real, unless it's an actual guy running the autopsy and looking at the biology, you know what I mean?
	It's going to be tough to say.
	I think they've definitely done that, by the way.
	I don't doubt you, but I'm saying...
	Look, all I'm saying is, where I'm at now, as someone who took pride in debunking the very idea, you know, it sounds far-fetched that aliens landed, but you gotta think, dude, five years ago we didn't know women had dicks.
	Well, that's a whole other subject.
	We talked about that.
	It's just like nothing, dude, the thing of like, what's extraordinary, you know, extraordinary claims, and extraordinary, you know, the saying, I got real into Michael Shermer.
	Yeah, no, extraordinary claims need extraordinary evidence.
	But now, what I've noticed, the definition of what's an extraordinary claim is, dude, I've, that's gone, I mean, that's obliterated.
	Now, what I notice is, oh, you don't have to keep jack shit a secret.
	In fact, probably everything leaks.
	All you got to do is put out enough fake information to make the real story.
	So then it comes down to like, okay, whose anecdotal story have I compiled enough of to think there's something to it, even if I don't know what that is?
	And I'm not saying there's the Nazis went to Antarctica, made a deal with the lizards, they're off world in the moon.
	I'm not saying any of that. I go, dude, what I like to do is I sift through the most conservative shit to the wildest story because usually I'm looking for, I write a lot of like stories and shit like I want to make something and I want to make something I haven't heard before so all I look for Before believing in anything is just a little weird detail that I haven't heard in all the cliché shit you always see.
	That's all I'm looking for, is that.
	And that doesn't mean...
	One thing from the Bible I got from having to read it 20 times and being like, you know, really is...
	I got a lot of value out of the Bible and not that I think it is a historical useful document, even if it's not literal truth, because I get metaphors and analogies out of it that work in real life all the time.
	So I have value from that.
	Do you understand? I totally get it.
	So somebody making up a story about the black son of the SS Himmler group, like Hydra from the comic books...
	Had contacted aliens through the Vril Society and went to Antarctica.
	Now, we know there were Nazis there in Antarctica.
	Alamo Byrd went there because they were not in Antarctica.
	Doesn't mean there was an alien base, but still not allowed to go there.
	The Foo Fighters were actually...
	The Germans couldn't put their guns on the UFO shit they got because they didn't know how to make weapons that wouldn't blast their...
	You know, there's all the stories that I've heard.
	And now there's a secret space program That off-world Germans are in charge of?
	This is the kind of shit that I've been looking into.
	Again, I don't say it's true at all.
	The 20 and back program?
	I'm not telling you it's true or I think it's true.
	What I'm looking for is, if you ever write or make a story, anything I've ever made, I had some subconscious thing I was working out through my story, and later stuff that I made up, I realize now I'm like, oh, that was like a metaphor for something I didn't understand.
	So that's what I'm looking for when I read all this shit.
	Now, the eerie fucking thing...
	Is, I go, like, okay, what's the low estimate of kind of reasonable to, like, this is fucking crazy, right?
	And I try to, I start, I'm like, well, somewhere in the middle, maybe, just like how Osama bin Laden really died.
	Seymour Hersh reported it fucking 2012.
	I never heard of it in 2012. Really?
	Dude, that blows my fucking mind.
	Well, that's if that's real too, but he did some of the best work on it.
	I mean, he's right outside of a fucking Pakistani military base for a reason.
	And I believe it's like, you know, some things have a ring of truth and I'm like, okay, it's not a load-bearing narrative for me, but I do like, it sounds pretty true, a lot of the shit that he gets.
	So I look at it that way and...
	I have friends that you know I'm surprised that like I didn't go that high up in show business You'd be surprised at stuff you hear and find out with a minimal amount of contact.
	Not as much as a whore or a housekeeper.
	I got stuff from people that's hilarious.
	A lot of shit about celebrities and stuff that I'm surprised.
	And I get off on that. I get to know that.
	That's why they say a lot of CIA people are housekeepers.
	Whatever. Or whores.
	Because they have all...
	It's like upstairs, downstairs. Well, again, MKUltra, man.
	Let's talk about it because they often don't talk about Midnight Climax and the fact they were running brothels coast to coast where they have these teenage prostitutes.
	Now, the prostitutes themselves would drug them and then they would be taped through
	a two-way mirror and then surveilled after the fact.
	So yes, sex workers know that stuff.
	My big Hollyweird story, where I got an inside thing that eventually did come out, thank
	God, was about Bryan Singer.
	In 2006, I was- Oh, that's a great one.
	Well, I'll tell you what. I was sitting there and I was with a Hollywood producer.
	They just put out their second film.
	Wait, wait, wait. So hold on. One sec, one sec.
	I was actually in California.
	This is prior to the fifth anniversary of 9-11.
	And of all people, Charlie Sheen is putting this thing...
	I celebrate it every year. Jesus.
	Anyway, Sheen is putting this thing on and it's a panel thing.
	So there are people around.
	And actually, there's the main porn convention going on in the same building.
	So like... I ran into Jenna James' ex-husband and Ron Jeremy I actually ran into.
	She knows HIV because he's a big trans hooker guy.
	And what happens a lot with a lot of cokeheads is...
	I have friends, you know, before the trans issue was even a thing.
	In New York, it's all over the place.
	It wasn't like a big deal.
	No, I know. But the thing is, if you do a lot of blow like how he did, like I'm saying...
	And I have a friend who is just...
	You know, a lot of comedians were always just into that.
	Jim Norton, very openly, was way into that.
	Wait, way into the cocaine or into the trans thing?
	Going trans. But another friend of mine...
	Jim Norton?! Yeah, I think he's getting married to a trans.
	Very passing. Jim Norton cursed me out on Opie and Anthony many years ago because of my work on 9-11 and actually hoped on air that my mother was going to be raped by a large HIV-invested penis.
	He's just being funny. But look, I have a friend.
	I have a friend. Another comment, I won't say his name because he got in trouble.
	He goes, I'm in the ninth circle of porn.
	He didn't say trans.
	He put the Y on the end.
	That's why I don't want to say his name. And I was like, oh, really?
	And it was because, I'm like, what's the thing?
	is because it's like a mutant like a he get it's a took so yeah and and so but
	Charlie Sheen who supposedly fuck Corey Hamel up the ass yep as a kid
	You know, this is like classic aristocracy, Oxford boy.
	Like, you had an all-boys finishing school and you learned to take a male lover much like the ancients whatever did and it's just what rich people have always done and also you learn to be flexible with your morals because you need to make connections and all that shit, right? But, people on coke, that's what I'm talking about.
	Charlie Sheen, crackhead.
	So he picked up HIV from trans prostitutes.
	I remember when Lenny Dykstra talked about that and how there was possibly a sex tape of that out there.
	I don't want to get into the details, but he alleges...
	Well, no, I believe it.
	I'll tell you what my... I won't say my source, but he's somebody in Berlin.
	Berlin is like...
	As far...
	Like, a lot of California sex workers and porn stars, that's like the Vegas that they retired to is Berlin, and the shit...
	The bizarro, hostile-type shit that goes on in Berlin is notorious.
	It's easy to find a lot of it, but I have a friend out there who It's a wild story, man, actually.
	But he gave me a list of so many funny fucking details, and he gave me order of credibility.
	Because he goes, understand, these are like whores, and porns are, but here's the ones that I think are absolutely true.
	Here's the ones that are less reliable.
	It was great. He gave me a whole fucking thing.
	I don't want to say what his job or whatever is, but every single one of them, like, oh, I see how this is, you know...
	Again, yeah, go ahead.
	My story was, you know, I'm sitting there with this Hollywood producer, and we get past the 9-11 thing, and he asked me why I'm doing this.
	You know, like, because I'm, you know, why are you doing this, man?
	Because you love Osama Bin Laden.
	I know why. Go ahead. And I... We used to love him.
	He was a freedom fighter. I mean, back in the Rambo days, right?
	Back in Rambo 3.
	You ever see a New York Times article? Freedom fighter Hassan bin Laden?
	Who we didn't throw in the ocean.
	We gave his body back to his very important Saudi parents.
	And lied and said it was the...
	I remember that. When they said he threw him in the ocean in a traditional Muslim burial.
	And I was like... And then they were like, that's not a Muslim burial.
	And I was like, whoops! Ha ha!
	And then... I found out later, of course they didn't do that.
	He is a very important family.
	Of course they want the body back.
	We have to suck Sally Dick because of oil and all that shit.
	Obviously, I don't even have a slightest problem believing that's what happened.
	That's the Seymour Hersh story.
	Yeah, yeah. No, I know. Listen, Hersh is an interesting character too.
	I followed his work through the years.
	Just getting to the pedophilia in Hollywood.
	I looked at him and I said, look man, you know, the further down this quote-unquote rabbit hole I go, I find out that a bunch of people in power are raping kids.
	And I'm not cool with that.
	And I'm like, they're into the occult.
	You know, we talked about Bohemian Grove.
	You know, they launched the Manhattan Project out of Bohemian Grove.
	You know, they literally...
	Launched nuclear weapons.
	So, okay, molesting a child sometimes inspires great things.
	What is the problem? So, I look at him, and I say, I mean, you're in Hollywood, man.
	Are you going to tell me? You said this to who?
	He was a producer at the time.
	He put out a couple of films.
	You didn't say who the guy was?
	No, I didn't say who the guy was.
	But again, this is 2006, and this is just before they're about to reboot Superman with Kevin Spacey and directed by Bryan Singer.
	So he goes, I look at him, I go, you've got to know a pretty high level pedophile that's never been outed in Hollywood.
	And he goes, well, yeah.
	And I go, well, who?
	And he goes, well, obviously, you know, I wouldn't be telling the story if he wasn't later outed.
	But he goes, look, man, when you're at these parties, and you're like this rich person's house, there's plates of cocaine everywhere.
	There's women everywhere.
	He's like, it's just a normal thing.
	It's just kind of how it rolls there.
	He goes, but there was one party in particular where I went to Bryan Singer's place, and that ends up being the compound in Open Secret.
	If you've never seen it, Open Secret.
	Oh, I've seen it. Yeah, so that...
	Is that the thing with Brad Renfro?
	Yes. Yeah, all that stuff.
	And it's a powerful picture.
	I try to get people to watch whenever they can.
	And he said, I was there and all of a sudden, Bryan Singer walked out with what appeared to be like a 14-year-old boy, topless, in a dog collar on a leash.
	And this was just accepted and no one said a word.
	No one acted like it wasn't normal.
	And he's like, this party had a lot of people in it.
	Hey, money talks, nerds walk.
	And you just think about something like that and how out in the open you have to be to put a kid on a leash.
	Did you see The Madness of King George, that movie?
	No. It's about when, I don't know, the historical veracity, it's a great movie, about when King George went crazy and he had porphyria, supposedly, where he was peeing blue.
	And it was, he went crazy and then recovered.
	And there's a character who's like a soldier that's, you know, they're like really kind of mean to him in the movie.
	And there's one soldier who's, like, really, like, kind of cares.
	He's like, oh, this is, like, fucked up.
	They're treating the king like this.
	And at the end of the thing, when the king comes back, the guy gets fired.
	The nicest guy to him gets fired.
	And the shitty guy, who's like, he goes, you were kind to his majesty.
	He goes, next time a blind eye will serve you better.
	I never forgot that, dude.
	I think about that all the time because that's why I, you know, now somebody like me wouldn't even be able to work in the stuff that I used to work in because they've rooted, much like intelligence agencies or any highest levels of power, they've rooted out all the people that are improperly bred and not already trained Like the stuff that Noam Chomsky write about, you don't have to tell them. Here's an example.
	Like Chomsky does that piece of shit?
	No, the guy talks about both sides of his mouth.
	But what he's right about, he's right about.
	And they don't have to give him instructions.
	They know what's important to them, which is...
	That's the Moloch shit.
	What's important to me is getting ahead in my career.
	This empty fucking...
	Bullshit. And all that shit that, thank God that I was in a goddamn cult that really instilled in me how much that shit's worthless, because it is, okay?
	And so, here's an example of a thing, the kind of thing that fucks with me, okay?
	Back when Rachel Dolezal, the transracial woman, right?
	When that came out and I was like, I used to have a joke about like, okay, she can't be transracial.
	Like she put in the work, dude.
	She picked up her hair. She tanned up.
	Don't you remember that movie?
	Yeah. She fucking ran a chapter of the NAACP. Okay.
	She put in the work.
	Okay. She had like, she has like three black kids.
	She did everything to be black.
	And I go, at the time, it was a big conference.
	And trans wasn't as big of a thing as it is now.
	And one of the producers on the show, I go, well, dude, like, I'm just asking, like, why is that not okay?
	But you can say, I'm fine with whatever, but why is that not okay?
	Okay, you know what his answer was?
	He goes, Kurt.
	That's it, Kurt. I thought about that for 15 years.
	For 15 years.
	And you know what the answer is? Oh, you don't even know What to do in this situation when things are incongruent?
	Now, I do know, because I was in Jehovah's Witnesses, and if you have a reservation and shit doesn't make sense, or any real Christian dedicated in the fucking group, I'm not singling them out.
	Almost any religion without any question, right?
	You don't want to stumble your brother from the one true faith.
	That would be worse.
	So if you're like, well, what's the deal with dinosaurs?
	I don't know if they're on Noah's Ark.
	Who cares about that? We're getting eternal life.
	Like, shut the fuck up about that.
	That was always one of my big conundrums, by the way, with organized religion.
	Yeah, well, all kinds of wacky explanations.
	It really doesn't matter. What is important is Jesus, the promise of eternal life.
	You're going to throw that away because you're stupid.
	And then you're going to maybe fuck somebody else's faith up, which is even worse.
	Stumbling your brother. And when I got out of Jehovah's Witness, and to Jehovah's Witness credit, they're not after your money, and they tell you not to join me.
	You can't be in the military.
	You can't go to war and be a Christian.
	You absolutely cannot do that.
	I don't know if people think they're a Christian that went to war, but you...
	God and country, bro.
	God and country. God hates all the countries.
	He allows them to exist.
	You have to respect them as a Christian unless they cross over against God.
	That's Christianity. That's why I don't believe the thing of, like, Caesar's Messiah that my buddy was trying to tell me about.
	Like, that's not a top-down thing.
	That's a grassroots fucking thing, okay?
	Whatever Jesus was, that's a grassroots thing.
	And the Romans were right to fear it because it infiltrated and whatever.
	If people, like Gandhi said, followed it, it'd be a lot different.
	But they don't. They like the label, much like there's a left here that's not left because they only care about identity.
	It's the same bullshit. And I didn't know when I got out of that very insulated situation that there's no escape in that.
	When I got into the secular, reasonable world, all these people...
	It's, what's your reward?
	Keep your eyes on the prize, as they say in the Bible, and don't do anything that'll...
	So if your prize is getting to the top of Hollywood, you ain't gonna say shit when Bryan Singer brings a boy out on a leash.
	Ain't none of your fucking business.
	The kid's probably gay. What do I give a fucking shit?
	I want my eyes on the prize.
	And I just had one of the good things of having that religion drilled into me where that shit's still kicking around in my head.
	It's not like I'm trying to get rid of it.
	I couldn't if I wanted to. One of the good things is I do know what things are valuable in life.
	I really do. I don't have the ability to not be myself, okay?
	I don't know if the kids call it based, but it's not...
	I literally...
	It's genuine, man.
	You're just a regular person.
	I think that's why in the beginning of the broadcast, what gravitated you towards door is when you're a genuine person...
	And you're willing to have discourse with other people.
	You're not just going to dismiss them out of hand.
	You have genuine questions about the world.
	And you're not just saying it just to get your gotcha fucking moment in.
	You generally want to hear what somebody else has to say and why they believe that.
	And if we had more of that and more understanding, obviously we'd have a better society.
	But that doesn't move the needle for the top.
	Because what moves the needle for the top is people looking at their neighbors as the enemy.
	Except for those that would truly divide them.
	Jimmy's message, and Jimmy is not a Christian or doesn't believe in it, but the message of why are you hating your neighbor?
	That's not who the fucking problem is, is your neighbor.
	Why are you jumping on that?
	And how many times are you going to fall for that?
	How much are you going to fall for that stupid fucking thing where you blame...
	First of all, to have people talking about power, where you have institutional power to poor people.
	I mean, what are you, a fucking idiot?
	No, it's always like some college-educated person that's doing better than any of whatever poor rights they hate.
	No, it's a trust fund kid that's college-educated.
	Because honestly, if it's a college-educated kid that had to work while they're in college, again, they're more down-to-earth.
	They've sat in a restaurant scenario with other people for eight hours.
	They'll be a fucking alien from outer space if you don't have to do that shit.
	That's how disconnected you are.
	That's how fucking disconnected.
	You've got theory. These guys, Sitch and Adam, I like them.
	I haven't been on since we argued about Ukraine.
	I didn't even want to talk about it. So Adam, I was talking to him on the phone, and I remember talking about something.
	He goes, well, I believe America is a force for good in the world.
	And I'm like, well, great, dude.
	Hey, Dottie Sandusky, have your fucking beliefs.
	My Jerry wasn't, he was helping those boys.
	Well, that was a whole ring, bro.
	That's another thing. Dottie stays upstairs.
	I don't go in the basement.
	That's what I call people who don't want to look at it because they have what I call load-bearing narratives.
	Sometimes I have them and I didn't even realize when I had this dude Jackson Hinkle on when he showed me the WikiLeaks about Tiananmen Square.
	Now, I'm not emotionally attached to the narrative or that's what I thought.
	When he started telling me that, I started raising my voice, like, what?
	What do you mean? Like, I didn't even know that I had that in me to give a shit about what the Tiananmen Square story, but I had just had that as such a thing that I took for granted as a thing.
	It was like, without me consciously doing it, I'm getting like, I sound angry.
	And I'm like, and then he showed me that, I'm like, what in the, and right then, man, that's like, of all the things, It's so funny.
	Of all the things I can't believe, what I really can't believe is how much I can't believe stuff.
	So, yo, you want to know something funny about that?
	The guy, the tank man, he's in the Bohemian Grove Annals.
	They brought him in.
	He's in the Bohemian Grove Annals.
	There's a picture of him in there hanging out with the club.
	They brought him in that year after the incident as one of their guests.
	Of course. Because that guy's on the iconic poster.
	Of course, we all thought he was dead from a tank running him over.
	No, no, no.
	You know how Jackson showed me that?
	We were watching that recruiting video to join the Cyber Army to do disinfo.
	Remember that video? No, I have not seen that one, but no, I know all about the Cyber Disinfo Army.
	It's not a full brag, and even if you watch it and talk about it, that's almost like a trap, too.
	But in the video, they show the tank coming at that guy.
	and i think they show it going around him as if to brag that we psychologically made that idea that he got run over somebody did get their legs run over by a tank eventually it wasn't that guy um but jackson's telling me a story i'm like wait what jackson picked it out when we watched the video he goes oh that's and it was a thing join our disinformation army they openly say what they're going to do it's out of fort bragg i know that It's on one of my old episodes of Can't Get Right.
	And that's still, I think, about that.
	Because there's a whole cyber...
	That's what the Smith-Munt Act was.
	Obama is deploying 60,000 troops to the fucking internet in 2011 to put out horse shit.
	And when I think about compartmentalization, which is what the Bob Lazar story is really about, is about compartmentalization and patents and capitalism, okay?
	And sure... But hold on.
	Capitalism... See, here's my problem with that.
	Like, it's not true capitalism, because true capitalism is...
	I'm not a communist, by the way.
	No, no, I know you're not. I'm just saying that when I look at this...
	It's kind of like, you know, people talk about...
	What is true capitalism? Tell me what it is.
	I would say true capitalism is when you have the same rules that apply for, and not only same rules, but the same actions, in other words, illegal, have the same accountability.
	In other words, you can do prison time.
	Like, one of the big things, my big problems with corporations...
	It sounds like a free market.
	Capitalism is investors...
	See, I thought it was, hey, you work, you get to take what you have, and you can go somewhere and move up.
	What most people think of it, what I realize now, is of course that's not what it is.
	What it is is a class of fucking, even if they're not real lizard people, metaphorically, that's true.
	Well, it's a predator class that's created a techno-fascistic society where they classify the technology against the people, and...
	The main technologies that could empower everybody instead are used by a small minutia to enslave them on certain levels.
	Because naturally you're going to do that if you get...
	See, that's why I don't go along...
	Dave Smith, who is really, by the way, nails a lot of shit.
	I know Dave a long time.
	But I want to bring up to him, like, why are all these fucking maniac fascists at the top?
	They're all libertarians, but you're not going to get to be a libertarian.
	You're going to eat bugs. They're going to be a libertarian.
	They're going to have Palantir named after the thing in Lord of the Rings that gives you all the information and corrupts you into evil.
	They unironically named it that.
	Like, are you kidding me?
	And, like, a snake that's got to eat itself and eat itself and eat itself forever until there can be only one, like, Highlander?
	That's really what it is.
	Now, I'm not saying I want to be a fucking communist.
	I'm just saying, let's not...
	What I learned from Joe's Witness is there's no system...
	One, an economic system ain't gonna fix what's wrong with everybody.
	That's just not...
	Fulfilling for what people know one to this package deal where I rejected in a cult where The stuff that was valuable.
	I value that that it gave me What I reject is, they don't say, hey, this is really good for a lot of areas of life.
	They go, this is the answer to every fucking problem is this.
	This is your one-stop resort package that will solve every fucking problem.
	And you couldn't have talked me out of believing in that shit until, like everybody, when it fucking doesn't help you like it was supposed to, that's when you start to suspect.
	No one can tell you science, logic, that's not how people operate.
	Like, when it disappoints you, that's when you realize, oh, and the shit unravels.
	So the people, like my friend Adam was like, I believe America's a force for good in the world.
	I don't know his personal life.
	I know he came from money, just based on that.
	I know somebody in his family works in the government, because he told me he has a friend in Rand Corporation.
	And that's their family Jehovah Witness thing to say that stupid shit that America's a force for good in the world.
	Are you fucking nuts?
	But I was nuts. I was in a doobstay cult.
	Well, first of all, America's a broad thing.
	And at some moments, there are certainly aspects of our culture.
	I went to the Constitution way into that.
	If you had to peg me down...
	As some kind of a political thing, I would say I'm a constitutionalist first because it is the perfectly imperfect document that literally had a system built into it where you could change it, but it was a structured system and that allowed us to give women the right to vote.
	It's very smart. It really is. It's very intelligent.
	It's what we're kind of talking about here is that you have to use discernment and be able to pivot and change your opinion when more information comes out.
	You know, Kurt, I had so many clips that we obviously aren't going to get to.
	I was going to talk. Can I tell you this one last thing before you go?
	Oh, wait. I want to play a video, too, for us, too.
	Okay. Before we go. So, my buddy, I can't say who, but he's a good friend of mine.
	You probably, I assume you probably know.
	But anyway, friends of Buzz Aldrin.
	Okay? So, now, I, from my own exhaustive reading through bullshit, I don't know if you've ever heard the story of Buzz Aldrin, but I know so much about Buzz.
	You go right ahead. I watch the NASA channel, bro.
	They're watching us, that fucking line.
	He told me the fucking story, and he said it was a cylinder that looked like it was making fun of them.
	Now, here's the eerie thing about that.
	Little things here and there about what those are and Charles Hall.
	Here's what I would do. I watch Charles Hall.
	Just watch it. That's a guy that worked at Dreamland.
	You can find him on YouTube.
	He has a movie called Walking With Us.
	I'd never heard of The Tall White.
	I'd never heard of that. Well, actually, I had, but I forgot.
	Uh-huh. In Iran, a newspaper came out with some briefing Russia sent to them that said Obama was working with the tall white and it was, ah, these assholes.
	And I was like, oh, that's so weird.
	But this guy, here's what's interesting.
	I like the ones that don't have, you go like, are you putting your Gnosticism or your fucking Hindu shit or your don't pollute Power Ranger message?
	You know how it's always that shit?
	Yeah. So this guy, and the guy is like a farm boy from Wisconsin.
	He could be country dumb, and he's also a guy that worked weather balloons at Dreamland.
	It was Area 52, I believe.
	So a guy who's that smart, with a lot of time on his hands, could make up some real elaborate sci-fi.
	I know I would if I was there.
	But just listen to the little weird details that stick out.
	Because even if you made them up, they're eerie.
	And then the creepy part is, he has a story about That happens coincide with what my friend told me but because you know the people say we didn't go to the moon like why the astronauts all look sad they just went to the moon and Well, it might be the way I look if I knew There was a fucking my government knew about a bunch of a ship flying around told me they'd kill my fucking family if I ever told the rest of the story I might be like this and Instead of like, yay.
	I'll tell you what, man. The Apollo things for me, that's tough.
	Dude, I watch all the footage and I'm kind of torn on it.
	I think that there's a good chance that we've been even further than the moon.
	I don't know that rocket technology has taken us there, and especially the Saturn V. Again, I studied Von Braun pretty good.
	In fact, that's the clip I still want to play because we're talking about God, I guess, and belief systems.
	And for me... Where I sat on all of this at this point, after, you know, I'm only, again, I'm 44 years old.
	I always tell people, let's start here.
	I barely have any fucking clue what happened in the past 40 years, and I've survived that.
	Forget about 100 years, 1,000 years, 4,000 years, the Big Bang, etc.
	I have no idea how accurate any of this stuff is historically.
	Well, you can. I know you can.
	Spot repeat. It was all I could.
	Repetition throughout history.
	Spot repeating patterns. And I don't, like I said, I don't have any settled beliefs about anything.
	I was, you know, I used to delight in the JFK assassination, debunking that, like a Penn& Teller's bullshit.
	And you know James Randi that...
	James Randi used to attack me.
	All the time. James Randi.
	I love the amazing Randi, by the way.
	Great documentary. I encourage people.
	I don't worship any of these people like Noam Chomsky or whatever.
	If you worship these people as a false idol, of course they're going to be a...
	James Randi did a great job of exposing Uri Geller.
	And Yuri Geller's a piece of shit.
	But James Randi, a quote I just happened to see recently, randomly.
	And he goes, I'm not a debunker.
	I don't set out to debunk. Am I prejudiced against these ideas?
	Of course I am. But I do not set out to debunk anything.
	And I was like, oh, that's funny, because that's like a...
	Back in the day, I was really getting off on debunking.
	And it was a...
	So now, so many things that are so insane now that...
	Where I'm like, oh, like, here's the funny thing I thought to myself after I went through all this shit and saw these weird, and then I'd see details from sources that I dismissed as the wackiest, not the medium ones that I would go with.
	And I remember going, and I went back and watched the Blink-182 guy, and...
	He's smart. I think he's misled.
	He's a really smart guy talking about McDonald-Douglas.
	Here's the interesting thing. I go, first of all, when I rewatch it, because I didn't really pay attention the first time at all, I'm like, okay.
	But the thing he said was the thing of, oh, you think they're stealing your money and whatever?
	They can't let the...
	Aliens know. And there's a war.
	And I go, holy shit.
	Space Putins are coming. And all they gotta do...
	First of all, if there are aliens or whatever, you don't have to hide it.
	You can literally show a bunch of this shit to the fucking dickhead from Blink-182.
	And it's fine. It's absolutely fine.
	Okay? You can have the whole lab leak and all that shit...
	It's reported on now.
	The vaccine...
	And I don't know if I'm fucking YouTube up again.
	Cleveland study just came out.
	RFK's right about it.
	You get sicker and sicker the more you take...
	Yeah, you get autoimmune disorders, man.
	Like, I told you... Listen, man, you don't inject shit.
	It's in front of your face. People ain't gonna look at it.
	So you don't need...
	Oh, two can keep a secret of...
	Well, three can keep a secret. Two are dead.
	I used to say that. Like a mantra.
	Like a dogma. No, you...
	You don't have to keep secrets, dude.
	You just have to put enough bullshit in with the truth so nobody knows what's real, and then pretend you're sad about all the conspiracy theories that you created with your fucking lies.
	That's all you gotta do, and that's what they do.
	So then the question is, What do you kind of just piece it around?
	And are you flexible when you get the other information?
	That's all. Exactly.
	Well, I mean, you're just talking about those shots.
	This is on Moderna's own website.
	This is where they partnered with DARPA in 2013 for their mRNA therapeutics project.
	This is where Adept Protect...
	Was launched. If you read right here, the goal is to develop a platform technology that can be deployed safely and rapidly to provide the U.S. population with near-immediate protection against emerging infectious disease and engineered biological weapons.
	So again, zoonotic, but if it was a bioweapon, we could do it too.
	This mRNA... Remember in the 50s when they tested that cadmium shit on black people?
	No, they dumped cadmium sulfate on people, not only from planes, but then they went in foreign neighborhoods.
	Just to see what would happen if a bad guy...
	Radioactive cadmium sulfate.
	It's in my film, Shade the Motion Picture.
	Oh, yeah.
	And then not disclosed until when?
	Like 2012? I put the film out in 2013.
	I think that it was around 2011-2012 that through FOIA requests, the woman journalist that had it come to the forefront brought it into the public arena.
	It was almost never talked about.
	Yeah. This was a partnership, by the way.
	It wasn't just DARPA and Moderna.
	It came into the Institute Pest Store, Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, BARDA, DARPA, all of it.
	They actually developed a cancer drug together in 2016, and that drug had a 12-sequence DNA nucleotide identical to the virus itself.
	I talk about how they printed this up, and these were printed by Elon Musk and Tesla in association with CureVac.
	That's my favorite is he made a shit ton off of printing the MRNA out, okay?
	Yeah, the thing that shocks me the most is how many of these people you'd be surprised because of compartmentalization is for all of society.
	It's not just for Bob Lazar.
	It's for all of us. And you don't even have to be in on it.
	You just got to think it's innovation and not know that much and you'll go along with all kind of shit.
	It's a really good system.
	It's a really fucking good system they got.
	I mean, they're not good, but it works well.
	No, it works well for them. So, you know, I had planned to play you NASA brain ship, Martin Rothblatt.
	Oh, the brain transparency? That's one of my favorites.
	Oh, also Charles S. Hall about the tall whites.
	They're not telepathic.
	I've been watching the earphones and monitor your brainwaves.
	That Iranian lady that talks about the Green Revolution.
	I still don't know if she's like for or against it.
	Like, she seems like how Elon's like, AI's bad.
	I mean, I'm working on it, but it's bad.
	But the device she holds up is what the tall whites had to use to do all their shit.
	And we have a big machine, she says, that literally, they call it brain transparency, but that's mind reading.
	Who would believe you unless you show them the video of it?
	So that means they had it at least 30 years ago, okay?
	And it was very eerie to hear Little details here and there of shit now.
	I'm like, wait a minute, what?
	And because I don't believe in the innovation of capitalism anymore, you know how viruses?
	Fauci gives money.
	We publicly fund these asshole pharmaceutical companies for their breakthroughs.
	Can you see my air quotes? Their breakthroughs, but you're funding them.
	And then they just hand it over to a private company because that's what we do with shit.
	I find it not at all hard to believe.
	They find some shit and they take the technology and just give it to a company such as Fiber Optics was supposedly one.
	And then you patent this because capitalism.
	And because the only new innovations that seem to come out Not the flying cars that they were very optimistic about, but a new kind of shitty phone that lets you spy on yourself for them.
	That's the only innovation. You mean the ones that have facial recognition and you put your thumbprint on and they get your biometrics and your iris scan?
	You mean those ones? Jason, I spent at least six years trying to wrap my head around bullshit-ass string theory that anybody that knows about physics will tell you was a dead-end.
	But not on TV it wasn't when I watched it and went, ooh, that's interesting.
	And I'm like, what is this?
	Well, you want to know what that is?
	At least in my opinion.
	So, you know, I talk about transhumanism a lot.
	And I talk about how not only the transgender thing is there, but everything that's pushing you towards the metaverse is also pushing you towards the multiverse idea.
	And to me, the multiverse idea is one in which you don't have free will because everything happens.
	It's kind of this idea that you are a zero and a one.
	You are in a simulation.
	Reality doesn't really matter.
	You're infinitely doing all of these things.
	You're not genuine.
	And everything is actually predetermined.
	Well, that's the Sam Harris thing.
	But I would contend, here's my philosophy, because my only load-bearing narrative that I consciously have, I don't know, unconsciously, is I do believe in God.
	I don't think it's whatever I was taught, but I think the way it's felt to me my whole life, if I think about it, is akin to like some cross between an author and a video game designer, right?
	So I like a lot of games that are multi, massive, whatever, and you can create your own.
	I like that a lot. You get to create your own.
	I used to play DC Universe online and I would create my own.
	Okay? Okay. Now and I'm playing it so that character in the projected space is You know, I guess I would be the soul right even though I'm not that I've made that character Then I when I get done I play a new game Okay, and I make a new character and maybe little elements come over But like is that reincarnation?
	It's not really how they describe it where it's you and you and you it's it's always me But I make a new character so I think it's something like that, and I think there's a lot of analogies in that.
	Well, I think it takes away...
	If that's true, let's say in the sense the multiverse is true.
	You still have a choice, but if you're Kratos, you're going to play the story of Kratos, but you still get...
	I think it's like Dragon's Lair.
	Remember that arcade game where you had to flick the stick at the right time?
	Yeah, it was nicely animated.
	It's not controlling the whole thing.
	Right, it's an animation. Because when I think of my life, I literally a thing flash left or right right now make a choice and I made a choice.
	I didn't control the whole thing.
	Well, have you seen what Google and NASA say about it?
	Like, they work together. Ten years ago, they put out, you know, when they were working on D-Wave machines, that basically everything plays out.
	And that means somewhere there's Kurt Metzger, pedophile emperor, and then there's also Kurt Metzger, you know, but Neville...
	The hologram thing they all say now, like Leonard Susskind, the guy who took out black holes.
	You know, like I said...
	We're talking about shit. Like, UFOs are crap.
	Oh, everything's a hologram? There can't be a hologram of aliens, dude?
	I think that's a lot of the stuff, dude.
	I think that it's not just propulsion systems, but if you look at drones and what you're able to project, you know, people talk about blue beam and all those other things.
	I think that you could have holographic technology with these type of propulsion systems.
	I'm talking about the universe physics thing.
	Oh, I also know about the holographic universe.
	I mean, David Icke's been talking about that for years, and if you look at metaphysics...
	Well, here's an interesting thing about...
	And again... My only as a metaphor of lizard other dimensional lizard people the only problem with that is in real life lizards are Actually nicer than these people Yes, the reptilian brain is true.
	I've had iguanas. You could go online and see people have lizards that are very sweet.
	They're not like Epstein.
	So, I feel it's a little unfair to lizards, but one thing when I looked up homogeneous space and projected space based on some other shit, you know, like going on holes.
	Interesting thing about it, if you look it up, it's not related to UFOs or whatever.
	So, you know, a projector projecting on a screen?
	Because I always thought in the Big Bang description and the expanding universe, Big Bang sounds like when you turn on one of those old TVs and the TV would turn on from a point...
	And then expand into the whole thing.
	And it's simulated 3D, but it's really a flat surface that you're watching in the higher dimension of the TV screen.
	Okay. But I didn't think about it as a projector.
	A projector, the closer you move it to the screen, the smaller the image is, and the further back the image expands like the universe.
	Do you see what I'm saying? Yeah.
	So the universe is expanding, almost like the projector is being just pulled back to make a bigger picture, assuming that it does it the same everywhere, which how would we know if it does the same?
	But there's a space where the projector is.
	Nobody knows what the fuck's in it.
	But if somebody could travel in that, then you'd beat light speed, of course.
	And we don't know light speed is constant.
	Do you ever see the thing about how...
	I didn't know this.
	So if you're on Mars, it takes eight minutes or something for light to hit Mars in here.
	And the Einstein thing about light speed, it's an assumption.
	I can't remember what the term is.
	There's no way to test it.
	We can't measure light in one direction.
	You can only measure light going somewhere and bouncing back.
	That's the only way you can measure it. And they assume...
	You divide it evenly.
	Oh, eight minutes here, eight minutes back.
	But it could be, and you've got no way to know, 16 minutes there and instantaneous back.
	And there's no way to verify it because of how light works and your eyes work.
	And what spectrums we're able to see or measure.
	That's the other thing. As far as you talked about religion, I would say I'm agnostic at best.
	And this idea of God or what that is, I think that that's important.
	And One of the reasons they push...
	Oh, I believe in the secret. Did I mention that?
	I'm sorry. No, I also believe in the law of attraction.
	I also believe in the law of attraction as well, but you have to bring it in and work towards it.
	I believe in the great author. So let me give you an example.
	Me and Barry Crimmins on tour almost died in a car accident.
	It was icy roads in Pennsylvania.
	The guy driving, we narrowly avoided crashing into something on the street on black ice on the highway.
	And I made a comment out loud...
	Like that Titanic comment about not even God can stop this, whatever.
	Which didn't really happen, by the way.
	No sailor would ever say that.
	It's a made-up thing.
	But I said something like that.
	We pick up Barry. We're all talking.
	We're going 60 on black ice on a highway.
	The guy's an asshole driving.
	He wants to pass this tractor trailer.
	We're going the speed limit, but it's black ice.
	We're pulling up along.
	It's like we're getting sucked into a jet engine, dude.
	The car starts wobbling. I'm in the passenger seat.
	Barry's in behind the driver.
	No one's in the seat behind me.
	I start going under the fucking...
	And I would have my head chopped off because, let me tell you, in that moment, time didn't slow down at all.
	I had time to say, what the fuck, three times.
	And then I went, well, I guess I'm dead.
	I guess I'm gonna meet Jesus.
	I mean that much time at the last second We wobbled the other way and the part where no one was sitting got pulled under the fucking trailer the window blew in It dragged us at high speed up the thing the truck driver probably even fucking notice because we're in the trailer or if he did He was like get the fuck out of there.
	We fucking spin into the median and then we now me and Barry We're like, we felt, I felt hot.
	I never felt so high in my life.
	I thought I was, it was like I went on a vacation.
	Crazy adrenaline rush.
	Just. The guy driving, he was a piece of shit, the guy driving.
	He's weeping because he didn't have the proper shit for the car he rented, you know?
	Me and Barry were like, and Barry was like, that's how I know I'd be in a foxhole with you because of the, like our reactions, you know what I mean?
	And I remember telling Barry, like, dude, it was wild.
	I said this thing, like, not even God can stop us now.
	He goes, why'd you say that?
	And I, What I realized from that later is like, don't give the author of the universe the perfect clever ending, the perfect ironic ending to your story.
	Just try to avoid, like George R. R. Martin is like a god on his day of rest.
	He ain't, he hadn't finished that book yet.
	All those characters and cliffhangers and whatever.
	It doesn't have to be a God's a Jesus-y guy.
	It could be George R.R. Martin who makes a world, right?
	That's an interesting way to look at it because you are bringing those characters.
	That's a South Park way to look at it, right?
	Where they go to Imagination Land.
	Right? If I write a story and I make up a guy named Jason Burmes and I go, Jason got on a plane to fly somewhere, I don't have to write that first planes were invented and the Wright brothers and then some metal was fashioned.
	I don't have to do any of that. It poofs into existence in the universe in my head that I made.
	And all that there is is the relationships between characters that I'm keeping track of.
	And if they die, whatever, I remember them.
	They're all an extension of me, right?
	I don't know if you ever did DMT, and I don't know that the entities they talk about are real or any of that shit.
	You haven't seen the clockwork else, bro?
	Well, there's some, no.
	I saw the purple lady who sensed the presence, but what I'm saying is, I'm not sure that that, here's the thing that sticks with me, not any of that shit, because that could all just be Jungian archetypes in your head.
	However, the distinction of in your head and the thing that stuck with me is I could see extra dimensions and not parallel universes like I know people think.
	They're extra angles and directions, and I saw things I can never forget just the angles and shapes I can't remember them and yet I can never forget them almost if I don't have a proper app In my waking conscious to translate it but I know I saw it and I can't believe that was even in my head to see and it clued me into the fact that the distinction like I don't know that I'm real so how can I say God's real or something else is real how the fuck you know you're real I'm just on the track that I'm on and I have the equipment to presume reality and that's it And I realize a lot of the questions I've asked in my life were probably wrong.
	And now, everything I felt, every time I was on my path, and I felt it was my path, it worked out like, oh, this is how it's supposed to work.
	And every time I... took the choice of not my path it was i i'm never doing that again i don't know what that is okay but i feel it and it's a load-bearing narrative in that you there's nothing you're going to tell me that's not going to make me feel that unless something happens and could but nothing has so far like that's the i came to with this on my own from living my life so i'm not making any the dmt thing what i got out of it is not that there's aliens or any of that it's that Your concept of real is like that Donald Hoffman thing of you evolved an operating system to do what you got to do.
	You're not seeing all reality because why would you?
	You see your computer screen and your windows.
	You don't see the inside of the computer because that's not efficient for evolution.
	I think all that is probably pretty accurate.
	Well, I'll say this. I've never done DMT, but I have, you know, done hallucinogenics.
	It's not like it.
	It's not like, dude, here's the crazy part.
	It feels like you stopped hallucinating.
	So that's profoundly different than taking mushrooms.
	See, I've had mushroom experiences, but my one LSD experience was really...
	I mean, it was kind of profound.
	I remember at one point...
	LSD, I prefer to mushrooms, but I'm telling you, DMT is worth...
	It's not a drug to do like, oh, I'm doing...
	It's a thing you ought to be in the right environment and...
	It's the spiritual experience everybody talks about.
	Well, you could do ayahuasca, but I'm not going to fucking go pay a Puerto Rican 10 grand to feed me poison and then wipe my ass while I have diarrhea in a tent.
	That's why they call him a shaman. It's a Charmin is how it's pronounced.
	A Charmin. DMT is, I work for a living.
	DMT is a five minute thing, and you get the same fucking thing.
	And I would tell anybody, you know, all the scientists that talk about it and whatever, a lot of them never did it.
	And I'm like, why? They're probably afraid to, or they think it takes away from the science.
	I want someone who really knows about a lot more shit than me to do it and tell me what they get because it was profound.
	Profound. And I'm not talking about talking to elves, although I did take away something from it, which is all the stories about that are, look at this.
	They want you to look at things, right?
	So those entities, I think that they only exist while you're looking at them.
	They exist. They're alive because you're looking at, your consciousness is imbuing them, and they know it, and that's why people crave God.
	It's measurement. Everybody craves being measured, right?
	You, oh, am I pretty?
	Am I funny? And if you don't have it, you go to God.
	It's like the atoms aren't there until they're measured.
	They're a wave. There's some innate thing about the need to be measured, and that's what everything is.
	Like, I need to be observed and measured.
	And that's what they play on with a lot of this bullshit to spy on you, is your innate need to be measured.
	And I took that from DMT, and that's why I don't know the entities are real.
	I think it's probably psychological.
	But again, when you're there, you realize it's not really that...
	You have a massive thing in your brain, like a fucking universe.
	And... The measurement thing, though, it sticks with me, because that's a principle I see everywhere of, like, it's a wave till you're looking at it, then it's measured.
	The need of, like, I want to be seen or, you know, like, that's a constant thing.
	I don't know what you call that in science, but I'm telling you, that's a thing I took from it that I think.
	Well, I think it's also purpose, right?
	Like, we talked about how life isn't just measured, how much money you have, or, you know, this, that.
	It's your purpose in life.
	What do you actually gravitate towards, and why do you gravitate towards that?
	You talk about notoriety, or acknowledgement, or, you know, pride in doing something.
	So I think that's part of it.
	Deep Thoughts by Kurt Metzger.
	Forget about it. I mean...
	Dude, I really want you to try it.
	I mean, I'm not going to push on you, but...
	Because I'm curious what you take from it.
	I really am genuinely curious. And you know what?
	It's one of those things maybe bucket list.
	You know, I had so many things planned.
	I was going to go over the future strategic issues and warfare documents.
	Well, I'll come back on. Just have me back on.
	No, yeah. We'll end up having you back on for sure.
	Maybe even while we do the live show, although it is a morning show and you're on the left coast.
	I do want to play...
	I do poikin and imposter's thing.
	I'll get up. All right. All right, brother, we'll definitely book you.
	I want to play this one clip, because we've been talking, you know, this was more of an esoteric show than I thought I expected.
	You know, a lot of secrets of the universe, etc., etc.
	And also, I think that we have these predisposed ideas about history and people, and Von Braun is one of those characters, right?
	So he's not only, you know, the Nazi rocket guy, but he's also Walt Disney and NASA. And...
	In this clip...
	By the way, guys, Disney sucked ass before it turned into this LGBTQ fucking bullshit.
	The thing of you're a princess was not a good message.
	I talk about that all the time.
	And how that was, like, imbued societally.
	How girls gravitated this message of rule by bloodline and royalty and dictates.
	Dude, Jason, I think...
	It was already warped insane...
	I thought we fought a war to not have that fucking crazy...
	David Icke reptilian shit that they have been pushing.
	I get why people think that.
	You know what I mean? No, I do.
	Well, again, you know, that's just another rabbit hole.
	Because I like a lot of Icke stuff.
	I interviewed him in the past.
	It's probably been 15 plus years.
	But I'm glad Iconic's out there.
	The guy gets it right more than the mainstream media on a lot of issues.
	And he believes in lizards and he does that.
	That's what I'm saying.
	I mean, lizard people, not lizards.
	Yeah, not actually. You know, shape-shifting lizard people.
	It's called the Anunnaki. Not a big deal.
	Anyway... You've got Von Braun here.
	And when I heard him say this, it was hard for me to disagree with anything that he said.
	That what we're going to play right here.
	And this is a clip I'd never seen.
	And it's going to be our spiritual ending, if you will.
	I'm going to get Kurt's thoughts on this.
	I do want to thank all of you that took this ride for almost two hours we did on the show for the premium.
	We're going to be putting clips out there.
	But without you guys' support, we wouldn't be able to do this.
	So here we go. Today, more than ever before, our survival, yours and mine and our children's, depends on our adherent to ethical principles.
	Ethics alone will decide whether atomic energy will be an earthly blessing or the source of mankind's utter destruction.
	Where does the desire for ethical action come from?
	What makes us want to be ethical?
	I believe there are two forces which move us.
	One is believe in a last judgment when every one of us has to account for what he did with God's great gift of life on the earth.
	The other is belief in an immortal soul, a soul which will cherish the award or suffer the penalty decreed in a final judgment.
	Belief in God And in immortality thus gives us the moral strength and the ethical guidance we need for virtually every action in our daily lives.
	In our modern world, many people seem to feel that science has somehow made such religious ideas untimely or old-fashioned.
	But I think science has a real surprise for the skeptics.
	Science, for instance, tells us That nothing in nature, not even the tiniest particle, can disappear without a trace.
	Think about that for a moment.
	Once you do, your thoughts about life will never be the same.
	Science has found that nothing can disappear without a trace.
	Nature does not know extinction.
	All it knows is transformation.
	Now, if God applies this fundamental principle to the most minute and insignificant parts of his universe, doesn't it make sense to assume that he applies it also to the masterpiece of his creation, the human soul?
	I think it does.
	And everything science has taught me and continues to teach me strengthens my belief in the continuity of our spiritual existence after death.
	Nothing can disappear.
	Nothing can disappear. So what are your thoughts on that?
	Well, okay, Jehovah's Witnesses, so you know, the idea of a soul is not like, we call it the Hebrew Scriptures, people call it the Old Testament.
	The Jews never believed in a soul.
	The idea of a soul was from the Greeks, from like Plato, that's Hellenized.
	I know most Christians are like the soul.
	Now, I'm not saying I don't believe in a soul or whatever, but what I'm saying is consciousness, whatever it is, I think it's like the same as saying dimensions.
	Like it's a stupid way of talking about a thing that's probably beyond you.
	Do you know what I mean? It's immeasurable and you can't prove it one way or another.
	You can't represent it. The analogy of me playing a video game character and that video game character is a character I'm playing.
	But I'm a something much bigger and outside of that character I'm playing.
	I just want to pretend.
	So there's some analogy to that, whatever somebody's calling.
	So I think people think the soul is like a ghost that comes out of them.
	It's not from the Bible, by the way.
	I mean, we're from Germany.
	That's a very Catholic and Protestant, of course.
	And but Ancient Jews didn't believe in that shit.
	Jesus was a Jew.
	The thing is, his soul didn't go.
	His body was transformed.
	And we believed the people that went to heaven.
	Most people are going to live on earth forever, as Adam and Eve were supposed to.
	A certain number were going to be...
	Transitioned into a spiritual body, if you will.
	Not a soul. But it's all whatever.
	Consciousness is consciousness. It's a massive fucking thing.
	I love what Norm MacDonald said to Neil deGrasse Tyson on Twitter.
	When Neil deGrasse Tyson, the universe doesn't care about you, this and that.
	And he goes, well, nothing's apart from the universe, Neil.
	So, like, of course, if we're the only thing conscious that cares, then the universe cares.
	Like, he said something better than I could say to this fucking smug dipshit.
	Oh, what a smug dipshit he is too.
	Oh my God. And that Vaticanization of it and consensus shit, Neil talking about consensus and all this dumb...
	Well, it's people like Neil deGrasse Tyson...
	TV people. Well, I think that they do a disservice to humanity.
	And you have all these individuals that have been inundated with this idea that they don't matter, no matter how hard they try.
	It's not going to make a difference.
	That's the Flat Earth, dude.
	That's the Flat Earth, Dave.
	Because my thing is like, okay, why would so many people...
	Big Globe, Big Compass, all the pilots...
	I'm not saying they couldn't pull it off.
	I'm just saying, to what end this conspiracy that affects my life in zero possible ways?
	And he is the kind of guy that'll tell you, some of them won't, they'll go, I don't know, but he will tell you.
	It's some Bible fucking shit.
	But it's to make you feel insignificant, like if we're just a little blue speck, then that makes...
	And I'm like, okay, if we're just the only life on a little blue speck in the universe, wouldn't that make you more important?
	I don't even understand what you're fucking talking about.
	I get it. Listen, for me, you know, I hear that argument or I hear...
	It's a dumb argument, dude.
	I think it's a dumbass argument.
	Listen, my point is that people end up embracing that at the lowest points in their lives.
	And not a lot of people can overcome it because it's constantly being bombarded by pompous assholes like this guy.
	That's what the pyramid's about.
	There's a level for everybody.
	You see what I'm saying? Well, you've had success, bro.
	You get it. You know what I mean? I'm sure that you actually love what you do.
	It's not easy all the time.
	I'm sure there are points in your career just like anybody's.
	You wish you were doing better or you got this opportunity.
	But at the same time, at least in my life, I look at all the blessings I've had and all the fun times I've had.
	I want to do what I want.
	Patrice was kind of the last...
	Vestiges of my life.
	I interviewed Patrice O'Neill before he died.
	Over at Infowars, actually.
	Yeah, and he really, on the Sheen roast, he only talked to me.
	He was like, I don't want a smarmy white writer look.
	And the reason he did that, he alienated the whole...
	And these were great writers, by the way.
	None of them were bad writers. But on the phone, I don't know what I said to him, but like, please don't...
	I was trying to become beyond the roast, like Jesenek had before me, and you write with them for a week, and then next...
	And on the phone, I sounded nervous that he was going to alienate them in some way.
	I don't remember what I said, but I was being a punk, okay?
	And he got so angry that I sounded like...
	He got furious. He goes, I better never hear you talk.
	This is how low self-esteem people are, you know, like how I would be.
	And so he fucking alienated the whole production, made it awkward, just so I would have to sit in his hotel with him while he explained to me not...
	He's talking about the dragon's mouth on shows.
	That's the last time I hung out with them for a long time together, for three hours talking about it, and it made me not want to be on those things anymore.
	He only agreed to do it.
	He always said those roasts were too mean because it's not the people's close friends.
	That's supposed to be your friends that love you.
	That's why it's funny. It's not supposed to be some random up-and-coming comic because that's cruelty.
	Which is a very important point.
	And he just admired that Charlie Sheen told the industry to suck his dick so much that he finally agreed to do one after years of saying no.
	Okay? And it took me probably a good...
	I don't know, seven or something years to understand.
	One, he did that whole stunt.
	And I had fucking...
	Like three or four importance coming at me.
	Hey, how's Patrice set looking?
	And I was like, is it my fault if it doesn't work out?
	Like... Okay?
	And I didn't... Low self-esteem didn't understand.
	He did that just for me.
	I had to ask Jonathan Brandstein, who was in the room, like, did he do that just...
	Yup, just for me.
	But I couldn't have the mindset to even accept it at the time.
	But years later, you reflected on it, and obviously it was a positive experience.
	I had my own fucking experience getting eaten by the thing to understand it.
	And then I really... I'm like, oh...
	And now I'm older than him when he died, so now I, like...
	I know where he was mistaken about shit, but the thing he wasn't mistaken about was seeing it for what it fucking is and treating it like what it is.
	The business is a comedy.
	I love the art of it.
	I love that, I guess.
	But I would say it's not really more like lust.
	I love people, but comedy is a fat, stupid whore that fucks everybody but you.
	And if you treat that bitch with respect and love, you're going to get treated like a chump.
	If you treat it like a dirty lust, like a thing you have to make an internet app date to get jerked off in a doorway by it, it'll come to you.
	You understand? It's lust.
	I have a dirty compulsion that I got to do it.
	It's not the same thing as I love.
	People tell me they love it. They always aren't that good at it.
	That's hilarious, dude.
	I mean, and by the way, your set was great, man.
	You know, I enjoyed the butt-fucking pops.
	I had fun at that show, man. Yeah, it was a fun show, you know what I mean?
	That was the Chinese, that was Balloonuary 6th when the Chinese probably...
	Another, her story, another thing that, you know, I mean, again, that's a whole...
	I remember a time when they used to lie and say...
	That UFOs are balloons, and now it's the other way around.
	Well, dude, again, that thing was about the size of the ISS. It's their network of satellite systems that aren't in low Earth orbit.
	The ones that are now in low Earth orbit, in fact, I can show it to you in this future strategic warfare document from 20-plus years ago that you need to read because it is the blueprint for what's been going on.
	But you basically have these CubeSats or Nanosats.
	Why did this come up here? Here we go.
	So we'll type in nano. This is all about nanotech too, by the way.
	IT bio nano era.
	Where's the nano sets? Only comes up 37 times in there.
	By the way, this predicted that the bio nano era of humankind would occur in 2020.
	Again, this is a 2001 pre-9-11 document.
	2020 is when they started injecting billions of people with bio nano technology printed up by Tesla via CureVac.
	Just want to throw that out there. They don't know when the virtual age is coming in, but that's literally uploading your consciousness.
	They're trying to bring that in.
	And here's another creepy thing.
	People that had alien implants or whatever they said and they took it out.
	It was just a piece of metal that probably got in there.
	I watched that fucking Ray Kurzweil and I saw...
	Now this is like randomly a guy saying Ray Kurzweil.
	I watched Ray Kurzweil talking about Computronium.
	He's holding up a rock.
	And he goes, we'll just be able to swallow your patient.
	It's going to be a pretty valuable rock.
	And he throws it into the thing.
	Here, I'll give you my last harebrained thing of where I'm at now.
	Yeah, sure. There's some kind of UFO shit.
	They're not coming to kill us or any fucking thing like that.
	It's probably some zoo thing.
	I don't know the extent of it. But...
	The people that know the actual shit about it, okay?
	Which is intelligence agencies or whatever.
	Think of it like George Lucas, the auteur filmmaker that had Star Wars and gets to control his creation, Star Wars.
	And then, you know, he sucks in his own way where you complain about it and then he finally...
	So now, Space Force, they're trying to aggregate all this shit to take...
	Like, how CIA does dirty war shit.
	Some intelligence groups, they're a little auteur thing.
	Now we have Space Force and the military and industrial complex, they're going to get right on board because they're still going to make their money.
	And now, because recruitment's down and all military, all they got to do, they don't got to show you the whole truth or nothing.
	They just got to show you enough of a fucking thing.
	And then... Think of the young men that can't wait.
	Not only the reason you go to kill, like, you know, Vietnamese before, but now you're going to go to space.
	You're an English young man and fucking meet aliens.
	Oh, the recruitment and the money and everything.
	And at that point, when that happens, we're all going to Like, fake fondly remember when it was the George Lucas Black Ops auteur just controlling it because it's going to be that much worse when it becomes Disney.
	And when it becomes Starship Troopers, you mean?
	When we're fighting the bugs? Dude, I love Starship Troopers.
	The movie? Have you ever read the book?
	The movie? No, I haven't read the books.
	I remember the movie.
	At the time, it was actually...
	For people that don't remember, it was actually pretty violent the way they sold it.
	They sold it was kind of like going to be this action picture and then people started...
	They didn't know how to sell it. That dude's so funny, that director, Robocop and all that.
	He gets satirical shit like really...
	RoboCop's another one. I mean, that's...
	Again, look at what we're looking at here.
	This is, again, that 2001 document.
	But there's the nanosats, the sensors, here's the VR holodecks, beyond human AI, robotics in the large.
	And at the end of the day... Imagine when they got a holodeck that they can fucking punish you with that simulates hell, where time...
	It's probably a Black Mirror episode by now.
	Well, you know that they're already at the level where they have five scents.
	They have it. It's there.
	So they have taste and smell on top of it, but a lot of people think that you're going to have to be in a ready player one haptic suit.
	No. No, you won't.
	Well, even now, commercially available, they have this riser that sends up magnetic waves that hit your hands, and your hands act in the controllers, and then as you're playing whatever, it actually pushes back, and you think that, you know, the butterfly lands on your finger.
	They'll easily be able to do this in the future in these large-scale areas.
	This is what Kurzweil talks about in the new Virtual Age.
	Well, I got an idea for a thing.
	It was a guy, I forget his name, it was a comic we were talking about it.
	But I'm calling it self-checkout of the title.
	Because I was reading this guy who did...
	He made a good book about encountering an alien that you think is conscious, but it's a Chinese room.
	Because consciousness is almost like a parasite hijacking instinct.
	Okay. Like a vampire.
	It's really great. And vampires are reconstituted in this future.
	And the reason a cross fucks with them is because they're predators.
	And the right angles on it make them have a seizure.
	Okay? It's all about, because all brains are a hive mind.
	You have hemispheres and whatever.
	They're all a hive mind. And tests they do on consciousness, when you're consciously trying to do something, it's almost not as good as when you're not thinking about it.
	That's what training is, to not think about what you're doing.
	As if consciousness is a thing.
	You know, I never talk about possession and shit, but I always am like, no, I think you're like a prison person.
	For demons. I don't think a demon enters you.
	I think you're a prison. And when the warden's not in control, the prisoners run the asylum, which it turns out coincides with some other teachings I never heard.
	It's very Scientology L. Ron Hubbard of you, by the way.
	Well, he stole that from a bunch of other things.
	But anyway, I'm telling my friend about it, and he's saying this funny thing if you could have a thing where you just live in your head.
	It's almost a metaphor for reality now, but So your reality is you're just in your brain.
	Your body is in the real world on a subroutine.
	This is why you go to work.
	You work at the grocery store.
	You just got to do one day of work to establish the routine down.
	And then you can just live in your head jerking off or whatever or going on dates.
	Well, you could be in the metaverse, right?
	But the avatar you...
	In your own fucking head. And it's called self-checkout.
	And You go to, you know, you meet a girl and she shows your tits and you're both in the same Wi-Fi zone while your bodies are working.
	And if you don't have the money to pay for it, you've got to watch her tits with advertisements first, of course.
	And then if there's a problem, there's some kind of doorbell system.
	So it opens up in the guy in the apartment.
	He's got to answer his own body, like come into it.
	His eyes got to come back like, what's the problem?
	And I'm calling a self-checkout.
	I'm working on it. I don't know where it goes.
	I like it, man. Have you watched Upload yet?
	No, what's that? You need to watch it, man.
	You talked about Black Mirror.
	Where do I find it? I'll go watch it. It's on Amazon Prime.
	Actually, it might be good for you and your girlfriend because it's kind of got that relationship date feel.
	But it is in the very near future.
	It's very much kind of this World Economic Forum type life.
	But what it's really about is uploading your consciousness and how there are tiers to this.
	And like you just talked about, if you can't pay, well, then you can't live that virtual world.
	Yeah. And there's just so much integration, and it's like...
	Black Mirror meets something like, I would say, you know, it's not an interview type show, but like Parks and Rec kind of almost thing, where they try to be light about it, but the darkness is...
	It ain't light. Dude.
	Upload. Watch it. Yeah.
	And especially, you know, like I said, my ex-girlfriend, she enjoyed watching it with me, and she's like...
	By the time... By we're like three or four episodes in, she's like rooting for the Avatar.
	She's rooting for the digital upload, like to be with the real girl.
	Like that's how... This is a joke.
	Yeah. Okay, I tweeted this as a fucking, I don't know, I didn't get a lot of likes, but I put tech idea.
	Robo, I spelled part of it in numbers like a fucking dipshit.
	Robo eyeballs for blind people to see shit.
	Before all you haters cry, why it ain't that simple?
	Guess what? I already solved the hard part.
	Blinds who can't afford monthly sub for eyeball pro can just see with pop-up ads in their shit.
	Now it's free to see.
	Bam, disrupted. Well, the...
	The problem is not the technology. It's, how are we going to charge them?
	How are you going to... What if you can't afford to see and you're blind?
	It's always that, dude.
	Every fucking time. It's without fail.
	Well, they had the iris implants, bros.
	Like, back in my... It's in my film in 2010.
	They already had them. So you didn't back then.
	I mean, it's gotten a lot better. But back then, you kind of saw, like, the Predator.
	So you saw heat signatures in your eye.
	Like, Cordy LaForge from Next Generation?
	Yeah. You know what?
	That's a good question. I mean, I guess I didn't experience it myself, but the way it was described, which they were brain implants that would go into this retinal system of a camera.
	I knew about that because I worked at The Wiz and we had computer things.
	And they told us about stuff they had in the works, like a control in the cursor.
	This is in the 90s. Richard Doty, famous DIA liar, said they had laptops in the 70s.
	And I don't think he's lying about that.
	No, I don't think he's lying about that, but he lies about much.
	You know what? Since we're still here and we had this document up and we're talking about brain chips, this is the...
	I gotta fucking go for real.
	You went way long. I'm sorry, man.
	No, no. Listen, Kurt, you've been awesome, bro.
	We'll do it again whenever you're free.
	Just tell me when you want me to come. I'll come back on.
	All right. Sounds good. Guys, we're going to run.
	We're going to jet. We hope you enjoyed the last two hours.

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