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Exposing The Deep State Agenda DECADES DEEP With Floyd G. Brown MSOM | Ep. 783

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Coined Term: Deep State 00:01:33
Welcome to Making Sense of the Madness.
And over the next hour, we're going to break down the deep state with a deep dive via Floyd G. Brown.
He is the founder of the Western Journal, an independent media outlet fighting the narrative.
And he is the author of the new book, Counterpunch, Gary, to make sense of the madness.
The deep state, deep politics, they are not a new thing.
In fact, it's Peter Dale Scott that coined that term decades ago.
Yes, somebody on the left actually coined the term deep state.
And there have been many, many people that have studied it since.
And it reaches back into the depths of what I now call the military-industrial complex, which unfortunately works in unison with the mainstream media to keep up their great narratives from authoritarian, I mean authoritative sources.
To discuss that and much more is the founder of WesternJournal.com.
He has a new book.
It's called Counterpunch, and he is a veteran of the political arena.
He is Floyd G. Brown.
Reaganite Revolution Roots 00:11:18
Sir, thank you so much for joining us.
For those that might be naive, give us a brief history of how you entered politics.
Well, actually, I met Ronald Reagan when I was 15 and was working full-time in his campaign in 1980 when I was 19 and literally walked into the deep state as a young staffer for the Reagan administration.
And boy, was I astonished.
In 1984, I got what I thought was the dream job.
I got a job as, believe it or not, as executive director of the United States International Youth Year Commission.
1985 had been declared International Year of the Youth by the United Nations, and the Reagan administration wanted some young people, and I was in my 20s, to go out and represent the youth of America.
So this is a dream job.
I traveled around the globe and going to youth conferences and representing young people from America.
But immediately I found out that they expected me to take orders from the Central Intelligence Agency.
And in fact, I had CIA operatives that would tell me what to say, what to do, how to do it, when to say it, you know, do not pass go, jump now, etc.
And I went to a youth conference in Jamaica, and I was leading the American delegation there.
And the CIA officer told me, you know, you cannot advocate for free enterprise.
And I said, well, I'm a Reaganite.
That's what Ronald Reagan believes in.
He believes in free enterprise.
He said, no, The only way we win this is if we accept socialism and we embrace it and we become part of the new world order.
And as a young Reaganite, we want you advocating for this new world order.
And I said that I was going to have none of it.
It summarily ended my career in government.
But I could see early on that these people wanted me to violate the philosophy of Ronald Reagan.
Ronald Reagan came to office talking about the wonders of freedom and the wonders of free enterprise.
And yet these deep state operatives that wanted to control what I was saying wanted me to do nothing like that.
And, you know, I was there as a young Reaganite.
I got involved because I wanted to be part of the Reagan revolution.
I wanted to change Washington.
I wanted to change the country.
So, you know, literally in my 20s, I ran up against this wall of deep state activism that was trying to control the Reagan administration.
And I'm so glad that, you know, a lot of people don't realize that.
And I made a film called Invisible Empire, A New World Order Defined, where we spent 20 or so minutes on somebody who championed that agenda.
And that would be George Herbert Walker Bush, the vice president.
He was often talking about a quote unquote new world order.
To the point during the Gulf War, he actually had a pistol series, which he bestowed on members of the administration, including Colin Powell and Dick Cheney.
I think Brent Scowcroft also got one that actually had New World Order on the title.
So while you had Reagan in the front talking about all these ideals that you wanted to champion, there was this covert agenda behind the scenes.
I would say probably directed mostly by Herbert Walker Bush and his crew as somebody who was the ex-head of the Central Intelligence Agency.
Right.
And his family had been working with the deep state for decades, even before that.
That's important to understand about the Bush family.
And you have to also realize that the key jobs inside the Reagan administration were controlled by Bush friends and allies.
Jim Baker comes to mind.
Jim Baker was the White House chief of staff and had immense power inside the White House.
And a lot of this happened and they accumulated a lot of this power after President Reagan had been shot and spent a big part of his time convalescing.
And they were able to push out and sideline many of the very close Reagan associates that had been with him from early on.
And I'm thinking of people like Lynn Knofziger and Attorney General Ed Meese and Judge Bill Clark, who they moved out of the National Security Council and ended up sticking over in the Department of Interior.
So they kind of, you know, that's what's really important to understand about the way this operates.
It's a community of interest more than, I would say, an outright conspiracy controlled by one person.
And this community of interest is all around money, and it's all around their desire to continue to reap the rewards of controlling government and, you know, profiting off of that.
You know, Eisenhower was the first president to warn us about it.
And, you know, he, you know, literally weeks before John F. Kennedy, you know, was made president, he gave this very important speech, and I reference people to it all the time about his warning about this military-industrial complex.
But it's expanded since then.
It's not just the military-industrial complex.
In my book, Counterpunch, I outline the other elements of it, and it's been expanded.
One portion of it's like a stool, and it holds up the whole deep state chair.
You've got the military-industrial complex here.
You've got what I call the pharmaceutical and medical industrial complex.
And then you have the deeps, the tech and media complex.
And then finally, what I would call the Green New Deal slash energy subsidy complex.
And between those various areas of government, they are able to generate huge amounts of money in campaign contributions.
It's basically circular.
They give a great big, huge subsidy to green energy.
The billionaires that make money off of green energy, you know, spend hundreds of thousands, sometimes millions of dollars in buying campaign favors and funding politicians.
Same is true of all the big military firms.
Same is true of all of the big tech companies.
Same is true of all the big pharma companies.
And so you get this mix of interests that cause a community of interests to keep this deep state money flowing.
And it's all about getting rich.
COVID policy is a great example of it.
We had some very inexpensive therapeutics, which worked very well against COVID, ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine.
And those therapeutics were suppressed.
In fact, government officials told us they didn't work.
They denigrated them, calling ivermectin horsepaste and other things.
I know I took ivermectin during the COVID period and it was great for me.
I still take it.
And it's really, you know, they suppressed these therapeutics and they put all of the focus on this jab.
And the jab minted over 40 new billionaires.
4-0.
Over 40 new billionaires were minted by that COVID policy.
Brand new billionaires who'd never been billionaires before.
And I guarantee you, they're all giving huge contributions to the medical industrial complex that did that.
And yet at the same time, it dramatically killed the middle class because what did we do?
Literally hundreds of thousands of small businesses were devastated by COVID.
So that's an example of a policy.
In my book, I call it the wealth extraction machine, where they're pulling money out of the middle class, destroying their businesses, destroying their livelihoods, hurting their families, and they're minting a few billionaires because those billionaires are always good for campaign dough.
And that's really what it's all about, Jason.
So many things to hit on there.
You know, let's start with the policy and the billionaires.
The great narrative, if you will, was the JAB was the only way out.
It was safe and effective.
They used Bernesian talking points, you know, that basically this was it.
And at the same time, they used global governance, in my opinion.
They used the World Health Organization as a front for their authoritative source, partnering with YouTube.
You talked about these tech companies, the really Trojan horse civilian systems, to again censor any information that was against that narrative.
Going back to the history that you just hit upon, you know, you talked about Prescott Bush, the family being deep state, OSS, union banking scandal, you name it.
You also talked about the assassination attempt on Reagan.
A lot of people don't realize that John Hinckley is not only walking the streets these days, he's playing the guitar at venues and the Hinkley family.
So weird.
You talk about these interlocking organizations of greed and campaign donations.
Well, the Hinkleys were family friends with the Bush family, and Neil was actually supposed to have dinner with one of the Hinkley boys the next night.
They called that off.
There's some mainstream footage of that.
It's in my film, Invisible Empire.
So, this has been going on for a very long time.
I like to think of these people as the cartels at the top that are beyond really any kind of accountability other than financial, a slap on the wrist.
And they do so through plausible deniability and really these corporations.
I want to get into that and much more.
The book is Counterpunch.
Our guest is Floyd G. Brown.
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General Flynn and the Logan Act 00:05:29
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He is the author of Counterpunch, and he's the founder of WesternJournal.com.
I want to talk about the modern-day deep state in the sense of General Michael Flynn for a moment.
Now, they went after Flynn, who was a pretty establishment guy during the Barack Obama administration, made the mistake, I guess, of being anti-war and maybe trying to do something about it under Trump.
But they went after him with the Logan Act.
Now, the Logan Act to me is something I've been talking about for decades because of things like the Bilderberg Group meetings, where you have these high-level intelligence agency personnel, government officials meeting with the heads of banking industry, of the tech industry, of the military-industrial complex itself in a secret weekend-long meeting annually with no audit whatsoever.
I was like, maybe we should go after some people with the Logan Act there.
Instead, you have Joe Biden writing down on a piece of paper: you know, let's use the Logan Act against Flynn.
And they do so somewhat successfully, smearing the guy, trying to ruin his reputation, but most importantly, in their mind, getting him out of the administration.
What is your take on this?
Yeah, well, first of all, you know, General Flynn, he's a personal friend of mine, and I can just tell you, he is a man of the utmost character.
You know, if you have trouble in your family, if you have, you know, an issue, General Flynn is the kind of guy that you want to be on your side and you want to be your friend because he is a stalwart man of impeccable integrity and honesty.
And so he was just too straightforward and too honest to operate in this deep state system.
But he was such a great military officer and such a great leader.
He kept rising through the system.
And one of the reasons that people don't realize one of the reasons that he was chosen in the Obama administration is because he was a lifelong Democrat.
And he was pro-life.
He's a Catholic, but he had always been a Democrat.
His family had been Democrats.
And so they thought that he was pliable.
But the problem was he was an old-fashioned Democrat from he was from Rhode Island, but he was a lot like the Kennedys.
You know, they were kind of old-fashioned Democrats and they did not like this whole deep state military industrial complex.
And so the minute he got to a position of what I would call ultimate authority and was able to control things, he was moving to make the system more transparent, more honest, and more accountable.
And that sent off all kinds of red flags to the people that were running the deep state.
And they had to target him for elimination.
And he ended up getting on what I call Obama's enemies list.
You talk about your movie.
One of my earlier books was a book called Obama's Enemies List, because Barack Obama is one of the most vicious political leaders we've ever had in the history of the country.
He has great PR, but he has been known to use government against his adversaries, both inside and outside the Democratic Party.
And he has a record of, you know, really hurting people with impunity.
He is a vicious, vicious man.
And I wrote about it in my book, Obama's Enemies List.
And I talk about the trail of tears that he left in the lives of people that he decided to target.
And General Flynn was one of those people.
And he could not have General Flynn in an administration of Donald Trump.
You have to realize Donald Trump was a lifelong Democrat.
And so these were people that were from the old Democratic Party where they actually loved America.
And they believed in America and they believed in our Constitution and they believed in our system.
I would put Robert Kennedy Jr. in that same camp of old-fashioned Democrats that really love America.
And this war of the deep state is really against the nation of America.
Borders vs. Globalism 00:08:36
And that's important to understand.
Globalism is not new, Jason.
It's been around for years.
In fact, the first global empire is in the book of Genesis.
And the first global dictator was a guy by the name of Nimrod.
And what did Nimrod do?
Nimrod's the guy that built the Tower of Babel.
Why did he build the Tower of Babel or Babel, whatever you want to call it?
He built it because he wanted to be God.
And, you know, Pharaoh, at the time that the Exodus story happened, when the children of Israel came out of the land of Egypt, Pharaoh at that time controlled a world empire.
The entire known world was his domain.
And, you know, whether it was Alexander the Great or the Caesars, these global empires are not new.
And in essence, you have men with deep and dark hearts that want to rule over their fellow man.
And so globalism is that agenda.
And every time you get a global leader, they have one thing in common.
They always declare themselves God.
And whether it was the Pharaoh, he said, I'm God.
Whether it was Nimrod, he said, I'm God.
Whether it was the leaders of the Greek empire or the Caesars, the Caesars always declared themselves God.
And so it is this system that is in contrast to what I call God's system.
God actually invented nations.
And he did it in the book of Genesis when he literally created the nation of Israel.
And then he pulled the nation of Israel out of the land of Egypt.
And when he created Israel, he gave it three things.
He gave it a culture.
He gave it a religion.
And he gave them borders.
And that's really important to understand about God.
God is a God of order, and he's a God that respects borders.
During the Exodus story, when they're headed up from Egypt to the land of Cana, Moses confronts the border at Moab, and they say, you know what, we're not going to let you cross our borders.
And so Moses goes to God and he says, God, what am I going to do?
And God says, you're not going to violate their borders.
I respect the borders of Moab.
And instead, Moses, you're going to march all the way around this country.
It added a lot of time and energy to their trek, but that's in fact what they did.
They marched around.
And that was because God respected borders.
So that is why the globalists hate our border so much that they attack it and attack it and attack it.
They make a lot of profits off of things like sex trafficking.
And that border makes it more difficult for them to sex traffic.
If you haven't seen Sound of Freedom yet, I'm encouraging every American to go and see this movie, Sound of Freedom, starring Jim Caviesel about the trafficking of children.
It's the border where one of the apprehensions takes place.
And the border makes trafficking of children and others very, very difficult, trafficking of drugs difficult.
That's why the elites hate this border so much.
And I talk about all of this in my book, Counterpunch.
But it's really important to understand there has always been this battle between the globalists who want complete world domination and those who are happy with our nation.
As Americans, as patriots, we want to just be safe inside our borders.
We just want our country.
We love America.
We don't want to be part of a world empire.
We don't really want anything to do with anybody else because our nation is so absolutely fabulous.
We just want to have America first policies and promote our country and love our families inside these borders where we can be safe.
And so I believe actually this is the final battle.
And this battle between globalism and between those of us who love having a nation.
And the truth is the globalists and the deep state are united.
They want globalism.
They want us to be run from the United Nations or from some new global entity.
And I guarantee you, Americans will be less safe, will be less secure.
And once they have that global empire, I believe they will then once again declare themselves God.
Or as the WEF World Economic Forum says, you know, they'll create an AI God.
So this is really the final battle.
It's the end.
And that's why I'm dedicating all of my energy.
And I'm calling on all Americans to come together in this final battle to defeat the globalists and protect America's integrity.
You know, once again, again, so much to break down there.
First of all, I saw Sound of Freedom last night.
Excellent film.
I'm promoting it.
We've had a lot of the people from Operation Underground Railroad on the program.
Really, one of the most powerful things comes at the very end when they show you the actual footage of the operation that you just watched when they're busting the actual criminals.
That really sat with me after I'd watched this very, very dramatic film.
One I likened to a level of, say, Donnie Brasco, but instead of an operation against the Italian criminal cartel, this international criminal cartel that is trafficking in children.
And when you discuss globalism, you know, I often talk about this idea of collectivism has been around for a very, very long time.
And that's what this quote-unquote new world order is based in.
They don't want individual freedoms and liberties.
Instead, they want the collective so they can literally control every single aspect of your life.
And borders around nation states are extremely important.
But honestly, let's look at the COVID 1984 nightmare that you talked about last segment.
And borders within states were necessary.
You know, I had to travel the country to leave New York, which was beholden to New York City policies and had become a biomedical fascistic dictatorship, in my opinion.
We're going to talk about that and so much more with Floyd G. Brown after this message.
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Eternal Transhumanism 00:11:50
It's making sense of the madness.
We are joined by Floyd G. Brown.
And before the break, I was talking about this collectivist agenda, but you also alluded to the fact that these people basically have said that they're going to declare themselves God, possibly through AI, an aspect of this globalism that I think is different.
I think you correctly identify as perhaps the United Nations as being that vehicle for global governance.
They have their satellite organizations like the WEF and the World Health Organization, et cetera.
But the UN as that vehicle for global governance under what's really a transhumanist agenda.
The internet of bodies is a thing that is approaching rapidly.
And the fourth industrial revolution is something that is being touted by these people, including the notorious Klaus Schwab.
What are the implications of this in this final battle?
Because it really does seem like the chips are down for all of humanity, no matter what you believe.
Well, right.
They want to literally change the human species, and they're actually on their way to doing it.
And it's very, very frightening.
It's Frankenstein type of experiments.
The minute you look into transhumanism, what you realize is that it's an extremely dark agenda.
Right at the core of it, though, Jason, is their desire to dramatically lower the population on the globe.
And people need to understand that they have been talking about this lowering the global population now since the 70s, and they are actively doing it through policy.
And one of the biggest is Bill Gates, who, you know, as a child, his father ran Planned Parenthood.
People don't realize that.
Planned Parenthood has been central to this whole movement to literally remake the human body through eugenics and to lower the population of what they call useless eaters or undesirables.
And, you know, God has the opposite agenda.
God says, all humanity is my children.
I love every last child.
I love, in fact, I was reading in the book of Matthew this morning before our show about how you need to become like a little child to get into the kingdom of heaven.
And so these are two polar opposites, and it's really a spiritual battle.
And that I think is important for people to understand.
But transhumanism is an attempt to remake the body of people in this goal of, first of all, they want to create eternal life here on earth.
And they think they can do that by implanting different chips and computer programs into themselves and create basically an ability to upload themselves to the cloud and become sentient and eternal.
I think that sounds like just an absolute prison.
I'd rather stick with the old-fashioned model of going to heaven.
Think about that for a second because I think there's two different things to this transhumanism.
And I have studied it at length very much.
Kurzweil, Martine Rothblatt, which if you're not aware of, that's the person to really look at.
What you have are two different things going on.
I think that you have an elite class.
They think they're elite.
I call them the predator class, nothing elite about them.
But they believe by experimenting on the rest of humanity, they're going to be able to biologically live forever, perhaps reverse their aging, as we've seen in mice and other open experimentation.
There's anti-agers out there right now.
NAD Plus, Resveratrol, Metaformin is another one that people take, et cetera.
They're limited.
But I think that they believe through bio-nanotech, they can live forever.
Now, the rest of us, through integrating with technology, whether it be a brain chip like promoted by Musk, who, by the way, made 600% profit more than anybody else during the COVID-19 nightmare by Tesla partnering with CureVac and printing up that bio-nanotech that they injected into the majority of us.
He's promoting DARPA tech in your brain.
He's promoting automation with the Optimus bot to take over and integrate.
So, what we're going to get is a UBI, a little metaverse, some modding, and eventually we'll be able to upload our consciousness into the cloud.
And that's what they'll tell of us.
Really, that's the mass euthanasia that they're looking after.
You know, so they don't have to starve us out or bomb us.
Maybe voluntarily, we'll go into the night and we'll just think we can upload ourselves digitally.
Now, you know, you talked about the population thing and Agenda 2030, Agenda 21.
Very real.
People like Ted Turner, Bill Gates exist.
In fact, I have Ted Turner on record in my film Shade saying a population of 2 billion when there were seven about 10 years ago.
Well, where do the other five, six billion people go, Ted?
I'm sure it's not you and your many children that are going to be sacrificed.
And when people like these people meet, and they have in the past, for instance, Turner, Soros, Gates, Bloomberg, even Oprah Winfrey met, and they were portrayed as the good guys club in a bid to curb overpopulation.
You talked about Planned Parenthood and the eugenics agenda.
All of this is just under the surface, but now the technology is getting to a point where I believe they can implement this on a mass scale, Floyd.
Yeah, well, and, you know, one of my chapters in the book is COVID-19, the Deep State's Darkest Victory.
And that was really because they put this vaccine into people that was never a vaccine.
It's still not a vaccine today.
I don't even know why people call it a vaccine.
It's a genetic therapy that's intended to change your DNA.
And I believe as a Christian that DNA is the information God imprinted on me.
You know, a DNA is basically a strand, an information code that tells your body how to build itself.
And I believe it's through that DNA that God created this world and created man and created all the animals and created everything that is here.
And so what they want to do is, in fact, change this genetic code.
And part of it is Satan's agenda because if there is a part of our genetic code that literally calls us to God, some people call it the God whole, where we are interested in and we want to know about the eternal and we want to know and we seek God.
And I think that that's written on our hearts through our DNA.
And I think that through their experimentation, they want to create zombies that aren't interested in that.
And that would be Satan's final victory.
Well, let's talk about the shots for just a second.
You know, no matter what you believe about them, they are in fact not vaccines.
They were gene therapy.
They were developed by our own defense department.
It was DARPA partnering with Moderna, which had never put out a product, by the way, for almost a decade, even after that partnership, although they were patenting mRNA drugs.
Then you have the mRNA partnership, and that gets into BARDA, the medical DARPA.
That gets into the Institute Pastor, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, AstraZeneca, all of these partners in that pharma mafia that you talked about.
Then it gets emergency use authorization.
So there don't have to be any trials and tests.
Then you change the definition of what a vaccine is and has to do as if you were really listening.
They were telling you it was three to five minimum all the way back in April 2020 and that these were in fact gene therapy.
But I think one of the agendas on top of this via the transhumanism is somewhere down the line.
They're going to make that revelation, Floyd, that, yeah, you've already kind of changed your DNA if you've had these shots.
And they now are normalizing mRNA into the basic flu shot, Floyd.
Yeah, and also you have to realize that one of the areas it dramatically impacts is fertility.
And I believe that's part of their anti-population agenda.
They don't want people reproducing.
And what they're, in essence, trying to do is sterilize the population the same way they sterilized blacks in North Carolina in the last century.
I mean, this is very ghoulish stuff and it's illegal and it needs to be stopped now.
And so that's, you know, why literally I saw a study this week that said that trust for doctors is at the lowest level it's been in the last 50 years.
People are now looking at doctors as people they can't trust because, you know, what are they going to do to you next?
And, you know, a lot of doctors have been exiting the system because they don't like what's happening to their profession.
Remember, they used to take a pledge, you know, to do no harm.
And it's very disheartening.
And it's all being orchestrated from the top.
You're right.
A lot of it comes out of the military industrial complex.
I wanted to just explain one thing about the pharma industrial complex because it was really created by Obamacare and people don't realize this.
They tried to pass socialized medicine during Bill and Hillary Clinton's administration.
It was called Hillary Care at the time, but they couldn't do it because of the opposition of the pharmaceutical companies.
So when Obama wanted to get his through, he struck a pact with the pharma companies and basically made their companies forever permanently profitable.
And they, you know, they don't have any real control.
He really let them write it.
Like that's the thing.
People don't understand that.
He let the pharmaceutical companies write the legislation.
Let's not be nice about it.
Like, oh, no, no.
He let them write their own criminal behavior into law so there is no accountability.
I want to talk about that and more on the other side.
We're going to get deep into the deep state.
And guess what?
We're not getting the Kennedy documents yet again.
RFK Jr. is not pleased.
The Deep State Revelations 00:06:42
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We'll be talking about that after the break.
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It's making sense of the madness.
And surprise, surprise, they're holding back the JFK documents once again in an executive order signed by Biden.
Now, Floyd, I want to get your take on this because unfortunately, this is something that the Trump administration, in my opinion, failed on.
You know, it was promised to us twice that we were going to finally learn the truth about JFK and that all documents would be disclosed.
Now, the initial dump was significant.
There were some nuggets in there that the mainstream media did pick up on and people like myself going through in the alternative media found useful.
But almost 60 years later, isn't this the turning point?
We had people like Tucker Carlson, who, you know, lost their job because of that and other things, talking about central intelligence agency direct operations via the Kennedy assassination.
Number one, isn't that the stepping stone?
Like we have to get that out into the public arena first before we can really reveal this military-industrial complex and the extent to which it's taken power.
And two, don't we need accountability after that?
A revamping of the intelligence agencies, their power, and really the executive within the executive that's unaccountable.
Yeah, and we've been trying to do it for a long time.
I go back to the 70s in the church report when Frank Church, senator from Idaho, was trying to put limits on the intelligence community.
And that's actually, it was the legislation out of the church committee that gave us the FISA court.
And the FISA court was supposed to protect us.
And now we learn the whole thing's been bastardized.
And now it actually works hand in glove with the deep state to make sure that they continue to control things.
So the no, the Kennedy papers are vitally important.
This whole notion that, you know, Kennedy was killed by a lone gunman, Lee Harvey Oswald, I think that's all been put to rest in the minds of anybody that studied it at all.
But we still don't know who the culprits were and who the people were that actually gave the orders.
And it might have been our vice president, LBJ, who was always very close with the military-industrial complex.
And we don't know why this happened, but it looks as if the killing of John F. Kennedy was in fact a coup d'état and that America had a president that was killed in order to change policy.
Kennedy did not want to go into Vietnam.
He did not want endless war.
And the military-industrial complex, this is really important to understand, Jason.
People need to understand this.
Since literally World War II, we haven't won a war.
And the reason we haven't won a war is because it's not in the interests of the military-industrial complex to actually win.
What they want to do is have perpetual war because perpetual war equates with perpetual profits.
Right now, you know, in Ukraine, they're minting money, minting money like mad.
They're, you know, using up all of these weapons of NATO and the U.S. All of those weapon systems will be replaced by all of the contractors that make so much money off this military-industrial complex.
And so this whole idea that why is it all of a sudden America can't win a war?
Well, the reason is, is because if we win a war, then we lose the profitability.
And so they want Vietnam-type wars.
They want Afghanistan-type wars.
They want Iraq-type wars that just go on and on and on.
And Americans bleed and Americans die and Americans are maimed because it's all about their almighty dollar.
Well, I'd say it's also about global control of the populace, but one of the guys speaking out against that military-industrial complex right now on a high level is RFK Jr.
Now, you guys covered the fact that he brought up this thing with Kennedy.
Now, you've spoken about RFK Jr.
And I've got to say, you know, out of all the candidates, even Trump, this guy's telling the most truth in that he's also speaking out against these hate and lie shots, these mRNA shots, where he's also been speaking out against quote-unquote traditional vaccines and things like thimerosol for a very long time now.
Yeah, no, he has been a truth teller for a long time.
And it's, and, you know, I really like what he's doing.
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I know that it'll be very difficult to win the Democratic nomination because of the way the deep state controls these political parties.
Just as there was a big story that broke over the weekend about how the California Republican Party was trying to move to make sure that even if Trump won the California primary, they somehow would be able to send their delegates for another candidate.
So, you know, they use all of these mechanisms and wheels of power to manipulate things and to manipulate people.
So, you know, I'm hopeful and I'm prayerful that even if he doesn't win the Democratic nomination, maybe he'll take a look at running in the general election as an independent Candidate.
Maybe him and Donald Trump could partner up together and run for president.
I don't know.
All I know is I like him because he's a truth teller.
I like Donald Trump because he's a truth teller.
But I do agree with you.
You know, if there's one area where Donald Trump has any issues, it was in his support for Operation Warp Speed and the coronavirus task force.
And I think it's important to point out that the two people that were in charge of that coronavirus task force were the vice president, Mike Pence, and his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, because I think both of those men did Donald Trump a big disservice in the way that they pursued the coronavirus policies.
But it's important to remember that the policies got much more onerous after Biden was elected.
And Trump was trying to keep a measure of freedom.
And thank goodness he was president when the whole coronavirus situation arose because I think it would have been even much worse, as bad as it was.
I'm not going to defend the coronavirus policies of the Trump administration, but I think they would have been much worse had a Democrat, had Hillary Clinton been in office.
Well, I think life would have been worse for everybody if Hillary Clinton had been in office for sure.
Well, and we know life is worse because Biden's in office right now.
I mean, that's a whole nother bag of tricks, which we can get into in the next segment with this new policy paper in a moment.
But I do want to say that I find it difficult to believe, especially with all these mechanisms and the fact that we haven't reined in our voting system, the machines in particular.
We haven't reined in big tech and big censorship that neither RFK Jr. or Trump are likely to get the nomination.
And instead, it looks like they're setting up a Ron DeSantis to lose against a Joe Biden to step down for maybe a Gavin Newsom to step in.
That's my wild conspiracy theory for the day.
We got to take another break.
We're going to come back.
I want to talk about Bill Gates, geoengineering, solar radiation management, the Biden administration, and much more.
WesternJournal.com is the website.
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We'll be back after this.
It's Making Sense of the Madness.
Final segment
of Making Sense of the Madness, and let's talk America's least favorite computer nerd, farmer and eugenicist, Bill Gates.
Now, Bill Gates has been a player on the global stage for some time now, but I would say it was post the almost breakup, the Securities and Exchange Commission threat of busting up Microsoft that he started to get into things beyond the computer arena and into the political arena, especially when it comes to eugenics and things of godlike control, including weather manipulation.
Now, Floyd, we have this latest report that's coming out there where the Biden administration all of a sudden is looking into geoengineering and solar radiation management.
It's all under the guise of saving us from climate change.
But the fact of the matter is these type of experiments, paperwork, research, and really programs they're not admitting to have been going on for 20 plus years.
And government agencies such as NASA have been heavily and openly involved in this.
So what is your take on this latest Biden revelation about the geoengineering programs?
Yeah, well, they've been doing this really for decades.
And, you know, whether it's drought control or they're trying to, you know, generate rain or through cloud seeding or doing other things, I think that they have been really amping up the secret efforts behind weather control and also, you know, the control of the citizenry through the weather control.
So I, you know, think that we need to just leave this stuff alone.
I mean, God created an amazing earth and he gave man stewardship of that earth.
And, you know, fundamentally, I believe we need to be good stewards of it and not be trying to manipulate it and change it.
And, you know, we could spend an entire show just talking about this, whether or not it's their seed banks where they're hiding seeds away from airline heirloom crops because of so much genetic engineering of crops and the way they've embedded pesticides into a lot of the food you eat.
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You know, the frankenfish they're now serving at restaurants.
You go in, you order salmon.
What you don't realize is you're getting heavily changed and genetically modified salmon.
They're attacking the human body from a lot of different places in a lot of different ways.
They're even talking about engineering into food their mRNA vaccines so that you get the vaccine not through a jab like you did before, but you get it actually through the food that you eat or the water drink.
For those that think that that's wild, it's already gone beyond that, especially with Bill Gates.
They've genetically modified mosquitoes to pass malaria vaccinations onto the populace.
And again, we don't get any accountability.
We don't get a say in this.
We don't get to audit this.
And nobody seems to be accountable.
You know, we talked about the jabs.
It has become extremely apparent and was apparent to those before the deployment of this thing that there were going to be a vast number of issues.
Obviously, the heart conditions, the myocarditis are some of the big ones that are being talked about.
But the autoimmune disorders and God knows what else in the next few years are ones that are greatly concerning to myself.
And if they'll do this with a shot and they'll genetically modify another life form to literally inject that into you without your will, they'll do anything, Floyd.
Yeah, and it's important.
People need to understand if you didn't get the jab, there's also the issue of shedding and the fact that people that got the jab can share the jab with you through shedding.
And it is, that's why sunlight is the best disinfectant.
I think that this whole secrecy in government, all of these secret papers, I mean, like they're trying to right now, you know, put Donald Trump in jail because he had some secret documents.
I don't believe in secret documents.
I don't think America needs secrets.
I don't think our citizenry can understand what's going on.
And I think that we need transparency in government.
And, you know, when I was young in the Reagan administration, I had a top secret clearance.
And at that time, I spent a lot of time reading through all kinds of top secret documents.
And my biggest takeaway from that, reading all these documents in the 80s, was it was like paint drying on the wall.
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Most of it's extremely boring.
There's no reason for them to be classified other than they can use those rules to go after people that they don't like.
Well, I think that's obviously what's happening in the case of Trump and his documents.
And I would even argue the case of Biden and his documents, whereas later on, if they do need to get rid of him, they can do so in a manner to start bringing that up as a subject with Trump as the precedent and then allow him to step down Nixon style instead of being prosecuted.
Yeah.
So I do want to end on a positive note, though, because Counter Punch is about punching back and winning.
And I end my book on a positive note because I see more people awake today.
I see more people in tune with what's going on.
And what I try to convey to folks through the book is you have more power than you realize.
You have power to influence things right around you.
And I try to encourage people and call people to get involved right around where they are in their communities.
Change your school boards.
Change your town council.
Change your state representative.
And through that, we will be able to change America.
There's 3,100 counties in America.
More than 3,000 of them should be governed by conservatives.
They're not because conservatives aren't showing up.
And Christians aren't voting.
Conservatives aren't voting.
It's important for us to vote.
Even with the machine manipulation, if we all pull together on the ore together, we will flood the system with so many votes because the people are with us, not with them.
And people want reasonable policies.
What we just have to do is get out there and make it happen in our communities.
Well, I 100% agree with that perspective.
Do not wait on another person.
You have to be your own hero.
You have to change the things that you can within your own household, within your own community, within your own neighborhood.
The book is Counter Punch.
I want to thank you so much for joining us, Floyd.
It has been an incredible hour here on Making Sense of the Madness.
I want to thank the audience out there for joining us and everybody at ampnews.us, where we are combating the great narrative, the authoritarian one, daily.
So much and we will see you on the flip side, more out
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