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June 17, 2023 - Info Warrior - Jason Bermas

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	We have developed speed, but we have shut ourselves in.
	Machinery that gives abundance has left us in want.
	We think too much and feel too little.
	More than machinery, we need humanity.
	We know the air is unfit to breathe and our food is unfit to eat.
	As if that's the way it's supposed to be.
	We know things are bad, worse than bad.
	They're crazy. Silence!
	The great and powerful Oz knows why you have come.
	You've got to say, I'm a human being!
	God damn it! My life has value!
	You have meddled with the primal forces of nature!
	Don't give yourselves to brutes, men who despise you, enslave you, who regiment your lives, tell you what to do, what to think, or what to feel, who drill you, diet you, treat you like cattle, use you as cannon fodder!
	Don't give yourselves to these unnatural men machine men with machine minds and machine hearts
	show time! and now reality with Jason Hermes.
	And who loves you?
	And who do you love?
	Good morning, everybody.
	It is Reality Rants.
	I am Jason Bermas.
	This is RedVoiceMedia.com and I'm gonna try to come at you pretty dang upbeat today.
	And with the lead story...
	Kind of go over how almost every light side has a dark side.
	Okay? It's part of nature.
	Night, day, the sun and the moon, the whole nine.
	It's the circle of life.
	And that is why...
	When people try to pin me down on a religion or my religious beliefs, unapologetically, I was raised a Christian, I would say, of many denominations and faiths over the years.
	I would say that my grandparents, at least, again, to my young eyes, certainly adhered more to that traditional view, at least in public and with the family.
	And they...
	Dissipated that down to their sons and daughters.
	Some took to it.
	Some rejected it.
	And I would say the next generation, pretty much the same thing.
	But there's always been instilled in me a sense that good and evil actually exist.
	Now there was a time when I was younger and I was rejecting organized religion or the thought of a deity altogether because of what I felt were unfair hardships in my life.
	And again, this is all a process of understanding.
	But later on...
	I would go back and I would think about some of the teachings, some of the things that were said, and some of even the prophecies.
	We don't talk about prophecies here.
	I'm not a Nostradamus guy or anything like that.
	But there would be some validity to what people had told me.
	However, I'm a human being.
	I'm very limited. Okay?
	I have to recognize that.
	I think we all should.
	I think we should all have the humility to say, I don't have every answer.
	And there's really nothing out there that can give me every answer.
	And I know people would argue, you know, a relationship with God maybe gives you every answer.
	I would argue even if you have that great relationship with God and is in fact real, you're not a God.
	You're still a human being.
	You're still in this show. You still perceive with the same senses that I do.
	And that perception has led me to unequivocally see on a daily basis that good and evil do exist.
	Whether you want to call them a form of spiritual energy or maybe something even more visceral, physical, doesn't really matter to me.
	And that's why constantly on this show when we talk about the darkest of subjects, the darkest of subjects, I encourage everybody to have some light in their lives.
	To get outside.
	You know, spend time with your family.
	Enjoy, you know, sports, movies.
	They're there. Enjoy them together.
	Put down the phone.
	That's a new thing, too. Like, you know, you used to watch a movie with somebody and, like, if they hated it 20 minutes in or whatever, they'd start talking to you and be like, shut up, I want to watch the movie.
	Now it's just like they're on their phone anyway.
	They're not even paying attention.
	Even that weird experience of just, like, And I'm talking back in the day when I remember watching Dumb and Dumber for the first time.
	Getting away from the good and evil for a second.
	But this is some good times.
	Watching Dumb and Dumber, one of my favorite movies of all time.
	Friggin' hilarious. Friggin' hilarious.
	If you don't find Dumb and Dumber funny, I don't know what to tell you.
	That's pure gold wrapped in platinum.
	The Farley Brothers went on a run there for a while.
	They did Kingpin, which to me is the bowling movie.
	Forget about the Lebowski thing.
	Kingpin? Oh yeah. That's what Jason Bermas likes.
	And then something about Mary.
	Follow-up classic. Still a classic to this day.
	Still makes me... Talk about inappropriate.
	Good stuff. Great stuff.
	Love that stuff. Makes me smile.
	Makes me happy. I can relate to other people on that because we've seen it together or we've seen it apart, etc.
	Getting away from it. So, last year, I was in the Finger Lakes, okay?
	It was for the Reawaken America Tour.
	I was speaking there, myself and my girlfriend at the time.
	And it got moved.
	I believe it was supposed to be right outside of Buffalo, and then it got moved to Batavia, New York.
	All the hotels were either totally and completely booked, or you were talking $500 to $700 a night.
	All of them. Every one.
	I'm an upstate New York guy.
	This is about two hours above from where I lived.
	New York is a massive state.
	People have this image that it's all like the city.
	It's nothing like the city.
	It's beautiful. It's gorgeous.
	So I looked in the Finger Lakes region and lo and behold, there was like this little restaurant kind of resorty or for people that had houses on the lake, one of the lakes of the Finger Lakes place.
	So I booked it online.
	We went there. You know, the inside of the cabin, whatever.
	It wasn't the biggest, but it wasn't the worst by any means.
	And we had a great time.
	We had a great time.
	I mean, awesome time. I remember I did a video right by the water on the lake, if you go look.
	And afterwards, I think it was like a 13-14 minute video, just me talking about what was going on in the world there.
	Some people over on...
	One of the benches, they saw me.
	They asked me to come over.
	I talked with them a little bit.
	And they're like, you know, we did see that in the news.
	We were wondering why they had to change the venue.
	And the funny thing was, this same weekend where the media had pushed some of the locals into such a frenzy in the weeks prior to this, that it's white supremacy and bigotry.
	Listen, I'm going to tell you right now.
	If I thought there was a whiff, a hint of any of that white supremacy or bigotry, I would not be involved.
	At all. I would reject it outright.
	I would speak out against it.
	That's not real. That's not real.
	But they had to move the venue anyway.
	And we had that conversation.
	And just kind of talked, you know, lightly about...
	The upside down, the dark cartoon we were living in even then, was a good thing.
	It's positive. Nice day out.
	Now, why am I bringing up this story?
	Why am I good and evil, Finger Lakes, light and dark?
	Well, from that area, also in the Finger Lakes, a lot of you guys know I ran a bar.
	It's called the Red Jug Pub.
	They started in a place called Cortland.
	And the guy that, one of the owners, also had a bunch of stuff going on in the Finger Lakes as well.
	It's all in that area.
	Sam Tripoli, who I know you guys love from that area as well.
	It's summertime. And even before the summer, there's a big story that I missed.
	But we're going to start here.
	And I want to show you kind of like the darker side.
	48 arrested, more than 9 million in drugs, seized in Finger Lakes Drug Bus.
	Now, huge ring.
	Huge ring. And you're going to say, come on, Jason.
	Well, a lot of cocaine there, a lot of fentanyl there.
	That's a big deal to me, especially because cocaine and fentanyl, what else are you cutting all this stuff with?
	Very, very dangerous.
	Okay? So we had dozens arrested.
	177 charges.
	So I was kind of taken aback.
	That's a pretty big bust.
	Even for a nice little resort town like the Finger Lakes.
	And by the way, I encourage you.
	You want to get away from whatever you got going if you're in an urban area.
	You want to really just hang back, enjoy yourself, not really be part of something that's too much money.
	Go out there. You'll love it.
	If you can find an Airbnb out there for cheap or do what I did, I think it was like something Cove we stayed in.
	Very nice family-run establishment.
	Everything was very cool, family-friendly.
	Liked it a lot.
	Can't get enough. Go.
	But we also have to realize, again, light and dark.
	There's a dark side to all this stuff.
	And if fentanyl and cocaine aren't your flavor of darkness, local investigation leads to 18 arrests related to a sexual exploitation of a minor.
	And it goes on to say this was happening for almost a decade, I believe seven years.
	Horseheads New York. Let's read it. The Yates County District reports that 18 people have
	been indicted for sex trafficking charges for an investigation that started in Horseheads in October
	of 2022. According to the Yates County District Attorney, the New York State Police Bureau of
	Criminal Investigations, Horseheads, initiated an investigation on October 13, 2022 into Andrew
	Daughtry of Starkey, New York.
	The investigation spanned several months and included the assistance from members of the BCI across New York State Troopers A, C, and E. I mean, this is a lot, okay?
	Various sex offenses alleged to be committed against a minor child.
	These are the arrests right here.
	Michelin Ridley of Starkey, Michael Gucciardo of Bath, Tiffany Jamison of Binghamton, Ashley Crandall of Corning,
	Mary Dietrich of Elmira.
	These are all places very, very close to me.
	Richard Taladro.
	We'll name them Anthony Hahn of Holly Hills.
	Okay. Okay.
	I mean, it goes on to detail, a lot of this stuff, what they're being charged with.
	I mean, you look at this, some of them only face a sentence of no more than two to six years.
	You know, if you watched my second hour yesterday...
	Obviously, I had an extensive conversation with Simon Esler about the issue of pedophilia, and it is an issue that needs to be confronted.
	In fact, I've got a clip from Ryan Christian and I from The Premium, and we're going to be playing a few clips from The Premium.
	I want to encourage people, redvoicemedia.com slash uncensored.
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	Ryan Christian right now, Ian Crossland.
	Who else is behind the paywall?
	I believe Charlie Skelton of The Guardian and the Jackman Brothers, amongst others
	that we now give away for free because it's about getting the information out.
	In fact, I saw somebody saying something about the Pasta Jar Dueler one being behind a paywall.
	It's not. Wednesdays, everybody, you're going to want to go to rvmrumble.com every day for that second hour.
	But especially Wednesdays where it's not available anywhere else right away.
	Because I do another recording.
	So I pre-record that. So just so everybody knows, if you didn't see the second hour, if you didn't go over to rvmrumble, we do end up posting it.
	And it's the looming culture of the pedophile with Simon Esler.
	Must watch. This guy goes into it from an academic perspective.
	And quite frankly, I just don't see it.
	We talked a lot about supposed pedophiles who have never acted on You know, this desire, this perversion, and are actually ashamed of it and trying to get help.
	And in a way, you can't help but encourage that.
	But then you look at how some of these sickos want to help these people and it's really an encouragement and normalization of it.
	And we've already had, you know, basically these laws that have shepherded and protected them and then even if they get caught, they plead away.
	Or they get a sweetheart Epstein deal.
	Or quite frankly, the most they can give them is two to six and it's like you don't even give them the max in most cases.
	What is going on? We can't erase this stigma, this taboo, as Tucker Carlson said.
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	It's actually going to be Ricky Verandes and I believe Frank from Quite Frankly.
	As long as we don't get a cancellation, I'll be recording that one in the we mourn tomorrow.
	I got my little schedule right there.
	In fact, you know what? It's a big day.
	It's a big day. Ordered some really thin dry erase markers.
	Those are a little fat. We're going to see how they work out.
	Going to be able to put even more up there.
	More work. More interviews.
	More truth. More content.
	Cut it up, share it, do it up.
	Speaking of that, we talked about Simon Esler.
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	And every Wednesday, that's how it works.
	Same thing with pasta. So last week, I believe the pasta one is up there.
	Can we get a fair ballot? But you can always see that second hour right away.
	And it's always archived, too, with the RVM livestream.
	Again, why aren't you subscribed?
	Why aren't you ringing that bell over at Rumble?
	I mean, look at YouTube right now.
	Now, I'll admit, I had a little bit of jackassery going on this morning, and I didn't make my video public.
	I was wondering why it wasn't showing up over at the...
	YouTube feed, like the hour before, like I usually do on the countdown so people can kind of come in and wait.
	But we're still, we got 77,000 plus subscribers.
	And by the way, we lost like 30.
	I keep telling you, we can't even gain 100 over like four months anymore.
	Doesn't matter what I do, what shows I go on.
	Just YouTube's like, hey, right there, buddy.
	You like that? You want some of this?
	Because we got a whole lot of this.
	Alright? Whatever.
	It's YouTube. I understand.
	We've got 118 people watching this show.
	118 out of 77,000 plus.
	We're tripling, quadrupling that over at Rumble.
	And I want to thank you for that.
	And sometimes 10 times that between the two feeds.
	Coming at you. And by the way, I want to thank them for cutting up this broadcast and also putting on Twitter because every once in a while we put out a tweet with like a six or five minute clip or whatever of the show.
	I mean, I've never rocked a red hat and went MAGA. Never.
	We paint what I think is the reality of the situation on every issue.
	And as soon as something goes, like, not even viral, but just starts getting, like, up there, you see the anonymous bots and losers come out and, like, MagTard and, oh, your boy Kushner.
	My boy Kushner? My boy Kushner?
	Kush Kush? He ain't my boy.
	I mean, come on! Like, oh, Kushner's my boy.
	What are you talking about?
	People don't watch the video.
	They have no idea who I am.
	Oh, it says red on there.
	It says red!
	Yeah, I'm red hot, baby.
	Merc with a mouth. Just, what is going on?
	All right. I want to play this clip.
	This is myself and Ryan from TLAV. What a great website.
	What a great news organization.
	Because what I like about The Last American Vagabond is that he kind of commissions other people who do their own thing and have done their own thing for a while.
	Whitney Webb writes over there, and really hard-hitting, long...
	You know, these aren't... You're running the mill.
	You're getting it from a website.
	It's... 26 lines and it's just a rehash of something else.
	No, these are in-depth reports.
	Whitney Webb, Derek Brose, who he was on the second hour a few weeks ago.
	Another great conversation.
	My boy Derek. I mean, these are people that are active.
	And Ryan, you think I rant.
	I mean... He goes way longer than me almost every day.
	It's impressive. Three, four hours sometimes.
	And hits a lot of the documents, gives his opinion, and is a very productive person.
	Productive. It's funny, I had a conversation with Mel Kay, who's been nothing but good to me over the years, and really introduced me to a lot of other people that I've been able to talk to and hopefully change their perspective on some things.
	Right, Mike Lindell?
	We're using the promo code RVM! And she was saying, you know, we've got to stop being so reactive.
	And I think that's correct.
	She goes, let's be proactive.
	Let's get out there.
	Let's do the small things.
	And I couldn't agree with her more.
	And proactive people, proactive people like Ray Dietrich and Drew Berquist putting this together, saying, you know what?
	Let's make it bigger. Let's get a studio.
	Let's run an almost 12-hour block, four days a week.
	Video. Just so everybody understands how difficult that is, think about Jonesy.
	Infowars. Been doing it for how many years?
	Okay, he runs the four-hour show, and then he runs a two- and a three-hour show.
	That's nine hours. He's still not hitting what they're doing.
	Still. He's doing it forever.
	Forever. And Jones will run a repeat on you.
	I'll have one of the hosts sit there.
	If he doesn't bring in a guest host, literally do like six of those hours.
	There's a lot of variety here.
	There's a lot of different viewpoints here.
	And good for them.
	Proactiveness. And that's why I also think Ryan is the man.
	But I want to incorporate this with yesterday's second hour, where we spent...
	Almost the entire hour talking about a tough subject.
	Well, Ryan and I here talk about these pedophilia networks.
	And I'd love for you guys to take a look.
	Let's see, got it right there and...
	Let's start it there.
	Let's talk about what's going on overseas, where you see it going, how much the public is even privy to just the slightest bit of reality when it comes to that conflict, and is there any hope of getting the United States out of that conflict before the 2024 election?
	Well, ending with that last one, or starting with that last one first, I think that we all see...
	I don't think it's the only reason this is happening.
	It's not only political, but clearly it is political.
	And it is very clearly, at your expense, going to be...
	First, I don't think it's going to end regardless because of how much is going on.
	But if they were worried it was going to end, they would stretch this out in every way possible to the election.
	Because I think wartime is always important from a political perspective, in particular the presidential election.
	But it's hard to say because it's obviously...
	It's kind of going back and forth and teetering where, you know, some people see it as a positive that, you know, Biden's fighting for freedom.
	Anybody honest can see that all of the government is involved with this very clear fascist proxy war kind of concept.
	But yeah, I think I don't think it'll end anytime soon.
	And I think that's by design, quite frankly, both because of my ring Russia and the same kind of classic idea, like with the Mujahideen and Afghanistan with the Soviet Union, the same exact play, you know.
	But on top of that, we know that there's new agendas, the bio labs and research going on there.
	I mean, even just human trafficking.
	I mean, it's just gross to even get into that topic because of what a clear boon it's been for the, in particular, the Poland and Ukraine border, which was a problem before this, which has just exploded.
	No one wants to talk about it, which is like it was in Syria.
	You know, I quite frankly think that's an industry that's part of the plan that happens every time we see war.
	It's pretty disgusting to think about.
	But I wanted to point out what you said there.
	It's interesting. I think the real thing, and a lot of people are beginning to become more comfortable acknowledging this reality, that it's all about narrative, not actual real changes.
	I think to your point, any war in history, especially U.S. wars, I don't think there's ever been a war where civilians were targeted, ever, by all sides.
	It's just the fact that at one point they realized, oh, we need to pretend to these people that we are what they want us to be, right?
	They're starting to care more and they have more power.
	And so let's, oh, we're going to do our best to avoid them or we're going to, you know, so that's an interesting point to think about.
	They're always targeting them. You know, you brought up the human trafficking.
	And I was on the phone with my brother this week and I was totally ignorant of this other than the fact that I had heard for a very long time and there had been rumors for a very long time that Mel Gibson was working on some kind of a project that was going after the elites, that was going after the predator class.
	And one of the things that it circled, I feel like, for over a decade was that his big follow-up movie was going to be on the Rothschilds, right?
	That's what spun around.
	Never really saw any evidence of that or commentary on that.
	However, recently on Redacted, which has come out of nowhere to be this alternative media show, I think The Daily Wire puts it on, they make a report that Mel Gibson is about to put out a four-part documentary series about human trafficking, much of it taking place currently in the Ukraine.
	And I would have maybe dismissed it.
	Had the individual working with Mel Gibson not been presented in a video talking about how the documentary series was essentially done and they were almost ready for distribution.
	As you just said, this is not new.
	And it seems like every time during the quote-unquote fog of war, whether or not there's a huge conflict or even a small conflict or even emergency that's not in the fog of war, like, I don't know, say Ebola and the World Health Organization, you get into this...
	Dark corruption of those in power exploiting women and sometimes children in the sex trafficking trade.
	And this is a trade that has been known to us since the beginning of time.
	Yet, we constantly either ignore it or completely marginalize it to the point where all of a
	sudden there's a headline on the Wall Street Journal that Instagram, no kidding, and Twitter
	and every other social media platform has these black holes and back doors for pedophiles
	to communicate.
	You know, and that's just a microcosm of what's going on on a larger scale.
	So speak to that headline because I saw that going around for a while.
	People have been saying, oh, Pizzagate's been vindicated.
	I'm like, well, if you were paying attention, a lot of what was going on during those DC emails had already been vindicated.
	It was simply mixed in with hyperbole and talking points and Bernaysian propaganda in order to discredit the whole thing.
	Hillary Clinton's running a sex trafficking ring out of a pizza shop that's taking peripheral issues, combining them into one glob of not true.
	Rolling it out there for the public perception and then dismissing the emails about children being Ubered to a farm for entertainment in a heated pool.
	You know? Right. Glossing over the fact that Alephantis had Antinous, the...
	The Greek god of man-boy love, literally pedophilia god, as his avatar.
	Those things never discussed in the mainstream media.
	This comes out, oh, pizza emojis and CP, cheese pizza, does have communication levels for pedophiles?
	Weird, weird. So what are your thoughts on that and how it integrates into the larger picture of governments and institutions?
	Like those in Ukraine, like the World Health Organization, being involved in these scandals repeatedly over the decades.
	Yeah. There's like three questions and all that.
	I hope I don't forget some of it. But the part that I'll start with is just since you mentioned it, it's so interesting that the Pizzagate conversation, even the things you mentioned, which, by the way, shouldn't be dismissed.
	Obviously, there's something weird going on there.
	But it's superficial.
	It's subjective. You could argue that he didn't even know that or whatever, right?
	I don't believe that. But the point is that on top of that, as you and I have discussed, And that's why I think it's important to point out that there was something that we could get into and investigate around the pizza place, or the artwork, or as I pointed out recently, the aggressively open, like, there was these weird, as you know, these late night, like, right after they closed for children, and sometimes the children were still present, where they had these weird, like, LGBTQ sex shows where they were dressing in drag and screaming very violently sexual things.
	It was very uncomfortable to watch.
	It's horrifying. And so this is a pizza place.
	Anyway, the point is there's something weird there, but then we also know that there's things like we often talk about.
	The Laura Silsby discussion.
	Chuck Todd discussing on NBC about the State Department and pedophilia allegations and trafficking of children.
	All this stuff is not up for debate.
	These are facts. The children from Haiti that Laura Sillsby was trafficking got caught for, that Clinton stepped in and got them off.
	I mean, these are undeniable.
	The only reason they let her go was because they said they were going to hold them accountable in the United States, and that didn't happen.
	So it's obviously there was something going on there, you know?
	So what's interesting in the bigger picture, when you see the constant marginalization, the downplaying of this problem, even when you've got something like Epstein that they're now grudgingly pretending they care about.
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	That was a great conversation that you can see more of over at redvoicemedia.com slash uncensored full hour.
	I think it was a little bit more than an hour with Ryan.
	It always does. He does great work.
	Ricky Verandes, I saw in the chat, And Ricky is the founder of both the Ripple Effect and the Union of the Unwanted.
	And the Union of the Unwanted, again, being very proactive.
	So this guy's like, you know what?
	I've been doing the Ripple Effect for a really long time.
	And I've been talking to a lot of interesting people over the past decade.
	Plus the COVID-1984 nightmare.
	It comes into play big time during this because it was a grouping of people that were getting kicked off of all sorts of platforms for sometimes stating things that were outside of the norm even within the alternative circles but many times we were getting kicked off.
	Why? We were citing Doctors and medical papers and mainstream reports.
	And I've got this video of Fauci that we'll play in the second hour.
	We dare not play it in the first.
	We dare not play it in the first.
	Talking about zoonotics and escapes and what I would call real conspiracy theories.
	Not really even conspiracy theories.
	Just non-plausible or probable scenarios to fit his false narrative.
	Dare I say that against the authoritative source of Lord Fauci?
	Well, today we will.
	Today we will say such a thing.
	So Ricky Verandes, again, he's going to be one of the premiums.
	By the way, I want to give a warning.
	I'll give a warning when I actually edit it together.
	But like the first seven minutes of audio, although I talk a lot, I guess like two minutes, like five minutes of him talking, his audio is awful.
	And it was just from the platform we were using for some reason.
	We recalled using Zoom, which I don't normally do.
	He's a gravy train with biscuit wheels for 50 plus minutes, guys.
	If the sound is bothering you, just fast forward.
	I'm going to give you the time stamp when it's done.
	Fast forward to about seven or eight minutes in, you're going to be good.
	By the way, support him as well.
	Does great work. He's the reason that I got to ask Roger Stone before being on the Reawaken America Tour, before meeting in person, before having him for a half an hour.
	For Red Voice Media, by the way.
	You go back to all the premium stuff.
	It's probably one of the first things out there that I did for Red Voice.
	I got to ask him a tough question about John Bolton.
	I said, you know, that's your poker buddy.
	You suggested him.
	And, you know, he caved a little bit.
	He said he is not the man for the job.
	No kidding. Not the man for the job.
	None of those guys were the man for the job, Roger.
	Come on. Come on now.
	Come on now. Let's get with it.
	So before we move on, I want to reiterate it again.
	You know, there's low levels to these crimes.
	There's networks. We've played the Sheriff Grady stuff.
	I know everybody always highlights the Disney stuff, but that's going on at Disney.
	That's going on anywhere there's a multitude of children.
	Period. Period.
	Like, look at the facts, Jack, and you'll see the really insidious...
	Crafty, psychopathic, sociopathic.
	The worst of the worst.
	The ones that really like it.
	Like we talked about with Esler.
	In the mix.
	Oh, he's your Boy Scout leader?
	Oh, he's working in daycare?
	Oh, he's a teacher?
	Or like in the Franklin scandal at Chevy Chase, the vice principal?
	Just saying. Just saying.
	Want to hit a couple stories.
	Some big ones.
	Epstein. Musk are nuts.
	You know. You know how we roll.
	Jeffrey Epstein boasted about a 2012 lunch meeting with Elon Musk that took place after he served a year in jail for procuring underage girls.
	So I kept telling you guys, and by the way, here's the article, Big Fish at Trey Billion.
	And there's a guy.
	There's another guy.
	He was proactive. Obviously, Big Fish there.
	He likes to remain anonymous.
	I don't know his real name.
	I don't know his face.
	That's fine. If you look at his account, that feed, pretty damn good.
	Pretty spot on. Not only is it spot on, but this is a guy, and I approach all this stuff with caution.
	I don't just go around saying things.
	This is a guy that really did help solidify aspects of Of how far the pedo gate situation was going on via the emails, via the infamous pizza parlor.
	And how did he do that?
	Because there's a lot of stuff out there that just wasn't real.
	There's still a lot of stuff out there, guys, that circles on TikTok.com.
	It's on the talk, man!
	It's on the gram, bro.
	Bro, it's to a trippy back beat.
	It's edited horribly and not compressed well, but I still believe it.
	Lot of disinfo.
	Misinfo. Purposeful sometimes.
	Sometimes just trolling. Seeing what you can get people to believe.
	Some people do it for the lulz.
	Those people are the weirdest, man.
	I don't know why you'd want to just keep lying all the time.
	Do you not have human relationships?
	Lies don't make friends.
	Lies don't make friends.
	Maybe you don't want friends.
	And if not, if you don't want that kind of human interaction, what's wrong with you, bruh?
	Huh, sis? What's wrong?
	Something's wrong. Anyway, getting back to the info there and at Trey Billion, why I give him so much esteem.
	And I interviewed him. I have to really go back to dig up that interview.
	I know he listens sometimes.
	If he knows where that is, I might have even interviewed him back in the We Are Change days where I may have interviewed him in the News for a Change channel.
	But I'm not 100% sure.
	Could have been on my own channel.
	I hope it's on my own channel. Be a lot...
	Easier to find, rip, and then repost, which I would be doing.
	So what did he do that was so special?
	Well, he made a claim at first.
	And that claim is that he was able to get access to the computers inside of the infamous parlor.
	You know, the one with all the weird social media stuff going on that people were posting.
	That place. The place where Jack Posobiec cut his bones by live streaming from within.
	That place. He found some not-so-great things.
	Okay? And when he found some not-so-great things, because you can't really look at some not-so-great things, and plus, who wants to be a part of that?
	What he did... Was he called law enforcement and he informed law enforcement on how they could access those not so great things and left it in their hands.
	But he didn't just call law enforcement.
	He kept communications with them and he taped their conversations and he kept their emails that went back and forth.
	And especially from those conversations that are available that you can listen to, it became very apparent to me that this officer was damn well aware of what Big Fish was talking about.
	And he was actually annoyed and angry that Big Fish was following up on what should have been One of the biggest and largest busts in history and scandals in history that did have quite the political thread, David Brock, John Podesta, Tony Podesta.
	By the way, if you remember, during all the hubbub, old Tony Podesta, they talked about indicting his ass.
	They went full Mueller on him for some reason.
	Weird, huh? So anyway, the phone calls exist, the emails exist, and all of this is before the shoot-shooty that happens there.
	And I gotta pull it up.
	I keep talking about pulling it up.
	I've played it on the show before, but we'll get it again.
	And then, after the shoot-shooty happened at the pizza place, the shoot-shooty, where no one's hurt.
	And the only thing that seems to be damaged is one computer with like a bullet hole about that big.
	That doesn't appear to have even gone through the hard drive.
	Uh-oh! We don't have it!
	Oh, it's all rude! We can't even forensically look at it!
	Crazy person came in.
	Shoot shooty! No look looky at the hard drivey!
	No, instead we'll parade this guy on television like a victim.
	Just saying.
	How many people have talked about that story as a reality?
	Not many. Not many people are aware of it.
	Instead, what got pushed around 10 million times?
	The pizza menu!
	Remember the menu? Remember that shit post?
	Huh? Think about that, man.
	Think about the people that would do that.
	Number one... If you're doing it as an actual misinformation, disinformation campaign on behalf of a government or a privatized intelligence organization that gets directed to do so and contracted to do so by one of the assailants, one of the accused.
	If you're doing that, your life kind of sucks, right?
	Like, how do you live with yourself?
	Sociopathy, maybe. But, on the other end of that...
	If you're none of those things and you're just an asshole, if you literally just get off on being like, oh, it got retweeted 100,000 times!
	A sociopath again.
	I always say actions have consequences, and I mean it.
	They do have consequences.
	The consequences can be quite different.
	For people in a position of some power.
	And we've seen that time and time again.
	And that's something that I strongly talk about here.
	Is that we haven't had criminal accountability for the predator class and their minions in this country for at least 30 years.
	Maybe 40. Like the Iran-Contra affair is like the tiniest smidgel bit.
	It's all lawfare and money.
	And they act like they...
	They got Madoff!
	They got that son of a bitch!
	Small potatoes!
	Compared to the real criminals in power.
	Small potatoes.
	Oh, they got Anthony Weiner!
	They covered that laptop up too!
	Can you imagine what that guy was up to?
	My God! My God!
	All right. We got one more segment coming up in the first hour.
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	One more segment in the first hour.
	Let's hit up a couple more of these news stories because the Musker Nuts is in deep.
	The Musker Nuts is in deep.
	It's not just the emails with Epstein, the pictures with Galane.
	Again, if you're falling for this guy, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
	In fact, I did this great panel back in the day, five months ago, Elon Unmusked, Corbett,
	Webb, TLAB, Bros, the Ultra panel.
	I think this is only like one hour.
	It's right around one hour.
	We really break it down.
	I can't recommend it enough.
	You want to understand what the Musk is really up to?
	That's a good starting point where you don't have to hear Jason Bermas get a little break from him at least some of the time.
	Twitter hit with a $250 million lawsuit from music publishers over massive copyright infringement claim.
	All the platforms' major competitors, including Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok, have music licensing deals.
	This is just the beginning.
	First of all, let's start talking about it.
	How many times do you see something from Instagram or TikTok reposted on Twitter nowadays?
	All the time. All the time.
	Now, YouTube, how many times do I get some kind of a copyright claim that's either completely illegitimate or just because I played a news clip too long?
	By the way, I didn't get hit up for the Harry Belafonte banana boat beginning yesterday.
	No! No!
	No, I didn't get that. Which is nice.
	Yet, it could happen. But I did.
	I went with something a little bit more obscure.
	It's tougher. And by the way, Kim.com is the one that tweeted this one out.
	And shout out to Kim.com because they came for his ass with Mega Upload.
	Now, you could also argue that's the only purpose of Mega Upload.
	But, I mean, it was really like also a Dropbox competitor, right?
	See, they allow some to flourish.
	It's selective enforcement.
	And right now, with the tuck-ins and all that, and the fact I can put up a two-hour video, in fact...
	I still haven't figured out.
	There are some people that through Restream, they're able to...
	Red Voice Media is able to stream their Twitter show.
	I'm still not able to.
	I have to repost it. Sometimes I forget to.
	I'm going to be reposting the show on Twitter later today throughout the week.
	Same thing with the Podbean guys.
	I'm a one-man show. I'm a very busy guy these days.
	So the reposting, all that, it's tough.
	But... You look at it and they're going to be like, okay, they've already picked their winner in video platforms.
	It's YouTube. That's what they want is YouTube.
	So the Tuckins is out there getting millions of views on this.
	They're talking about monetizing it.
	They want to force him into a situation of censorship just like everyone else even more.
	And by the way, he's still giving them backdoor access.
	And they kind of want to financially come after him.
	Because they don't want a real competitor, no matter how you slice it, even another military-industrial complex one, for YouTube.
	There are no competitors for YouTube right now.
	Like, Rumble's it, and that's got Peter Thiel written all over it.
	That's got Peter Thiel written all over it.
	Big time.
	Big time. All right.
	I want to play another clip.
	This one on the John Lennon assassination.
	And you know what? There's another one.
	David Whelan. We're going to try to get him on the show.
	Maybe premium. Maybe not.
	Maybe second hour. Maybe not.
	I've got to see what the conversation is like.
	Who knows? Maybe I end up doing an hour and a half, two hours with the guy.
	And it's the vast majority of one of the shows next week.
	Maybe the Wednesday show. I don't know.
	We'll see. It's all up in the air, everybody.
	Anything could happen.
	Anything could happen. We just don't know.
	We just don't know. But what I can tell you is we're going to go to this clip on John Lennon and the assassination.
	We just have to realize that this is, again, it's like talking about the concept of trafficking or slavery as if these things are post, like we're in some modern time that doesn't exist anymore.
	It's just ridiculous, right?
	All of these things still exist and the powerful are catered to by somebody.
	If you've got the wealth and the resources and the wherewithal, you can make anything happen.
	Assassinations, anything.
	You know, and that's another topic, by the way, that it's just so frustrating that we pretend like that's just beyond us.
	Like, I mean, right now, Pompeo's getting focused for just the open discussions of assassinating Julian Assange.
	And it's not some unique thing.
	This is constantly on the table.
	And even worse, it's not even the government's really in my mind that are the focus that happens.
	But it's these multinational conglomerates out there, these gigantic corporations that get away that are arguably more powerful than the governments.
	I mean, I believe that. But they utilize the governments and their agencies for cover-ups, if not the black ops themselves.
	Because you spoke about assassinations, this is a breaking story that I just saw over the last 48 hours.
	And think about how far away from this event we are.
	Second shooter behind John Lennon murder.
	Now, obviously for years, people have...
	Suspected or theorized that Mark David Chapman may have been under mind control.
	The FBI. There's the FBI and John Lennon.
	Great documentary. You know, it doesn't infer anything other than the fact that the FBI was all over this guy.
	Just like they were all over MLK Jr.
	And you'd think if they were surveilling him, he would be protected.
	And yet, this happens.
	And now, if you found two different bullet types from two different guns, that certainly doesn't suggest that Mark David Chapman was Bam Bam!
	Yes, that something else happened in the early 80s, literally at the beginning of my lifetime.
	Here we are 40 plus years later.
	This isn't a headline.
	This isn't all over NBC, ABC, Fox News.
	And this guy was a literal cultural icon for decades.
	There are documentaries just about him and the anti-war and peace movement.
	And yet here we are in 2023.
	How is this not a significant story other than the fact that we now live in a post-truth world with massive narrative control?
	Yeah, well, I mean, I think we've always lived in that, but you're right.
	I think they're just leaning into this at this point.
	But what's interesting to me is, I mean, I'm in a similar stance, though.
	Like, I see this.
	And the first thought I have is, okay, well, is there some kind of new information?
	Right? Like, what motivated somebody?
	Or are they just combing through the information that's always been there?
	And if that's the case, then why is this only coming out now?
	You know, it either shows you a very clear, controlled flow of information where they're dripping this out now to get us to go, oh, and bat at the new cat toy they dangle in front of us, right?
	Or there's something new that came out.
	And so, why?
	Why are they continuing to investigate this old story?
	It rings hollow to me.
	It doesn't feel real, right?
	And if it is, like, the real question is, well, that's like the JFK argument, right?
	I think I'm willing to argue, well, it's a hard one to say that, but let's just say your opinion may be that we can't prove that he was assassinated, right?
	I think we all generally have just come to accept that that's the reality, right?
	It's an interesting thing that's happened, you know?
	And you take polls.
	It's like 90% of the country. We know this, right?
	The war report is like the 9-11 report.
	We all know these things are fake, right?
	And I think the evidence has come out pretty strongly.
	But yet, it still kind of drifts along.
	We don't get more information.
	And so it's the same kind of a thing, you know?
	It's like with him, I think people are pretty aware that some foul play took place here, you know?
	And I think these are efforts to keep you dangling along while in real time we already have things like people should be in jail right now for what happened with the COVID scam.
	People should be in jail right now for what they're still doing in East Palestine.
	People should be in prison right now for what they're currently doing in Ukraine.
	Like we can prove these things.
	The Hunter Biden laptop, right?
	But yet they're like, aliens!
	Looking at this old story from 40, it's like, really?
	And people are taking it.
	You know, but we shouldn't ignore these things.
	Like, you know, I put it aside, I'll look at it at some point, but it should not be that focused.
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	And what I love about all of these discussions is we're talking about not just what's going on in the world today, what the hot story is today, but things that are relevant two weeks later.
	Like Charlie Skelton, we're also going to be playing a little bit of that and talking about not only the influence of of the Bilderberg group, but the future where they could possibly make themselves obsolete.
	And he even challenges me on the Yuval Noah Harari being in Lisbon, Portugal.
	And remember, we played this week a large portion in the second hour of a discussion he was having in Lisbon, Portugal, where he says, you know what, the AI has taken the fantasies That have been projected in religion.
	And now we can have a human entity that can write or rewrite a Bible.
	Oh, Jim Garrison, thank you so much.
	The Warren Report is fiction.
	That's what my boy says.
	Again, great conversation with Ryan Christian of The Last American Vagabond.
	Absolutely fantastic.
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	So the Muppets, which are beloved to me and a huge part of my childhood and positive memories, whether I like it or not.
	It's ingrained. It's embedded.
	I'm not the only one. It was a cultural powerhouse at the time.
	I specifically remember this.
	As the first time, and I think that they took me to something else before, but this is the first movie I ever remember.
	It was my grandfather took myself and my brother to the Muppets Take Manhattan.
	And boy, did I have a great time.
	Just a fantastic film.
	I love it to this day. I love the show.
	I love the singing, the dancing, the puppets, the guests.
	I love when they goofed on Star Wars.
	As I grew up, the Muppet Babies were a thing.
	Big fan of that. So the Muppets are here to celebrate Pride and celebrate you.
	This Pride Month, remember that Miss Piggy and all of the Muppets believe in you, love you, and support you.
	And then there's this little quote here.
	And this is like endemic of the internet these days.
	They're just nothing but quotes and Johnny nonsense.
	Believe in yourself.
	And if that doesn't work, believe in moi.
	Because moi believes in you.
	Five Times August says, you know what a well-adjusted grown-up doesn't need?
	Puppets telling them they're special.
	You know what deeply troubled grown-ups in therapy need?
	Puppets telling them they're special.
	Couldn't agree more, sir!
	Couldn't agree more.
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	All right, everybody.
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	How many people over at the Rumble?
	Plenty of people over at the Rumble.
	Again, Rumble outdoes YouTube every day now.
	Every single damn day.
	And I am being honest, even though they're not an honest broker with myself.
	And I put the little paid advertisement thing in there.
	I put the little paid advertisement thing in there.
	Okay. Oh, he wants to run four commercials in an hour.
	That son of a bitch.
	Meanwhile, if they do run commercials, they just don't pay me at all.
	I can't be monetized.
	Weird. I can't be monetized because I'm going to point out maybe the jackassery of something like this and this statement by the Faucian.
	Yeah, it was very likely a host.
	What the Chinese did...
	I don't have first-hand knowledge of that, but the people who were reporting it or investigated, what they did is they cleaned out the markets as soon as it turned out that it was clear that there were clusters coming from the market, which, you know, in typical fashion, I think trying to make sure that things don't get pointed to them, they probably got rid of the animals that were the intermediary hosts there.
	I mean, ridiculous.
	Absolutely 100% got rid of the animals that were the interview.
	Things spread like wildfire globally, but it didn't spread amongst animals that they couldn't hunt down and put down and stop investigations of.
	The guy's so full of shit, man.
	Beijing acknowledges now that they don't think it originated in that market.
	Well, it may not have originated in the market, but it certainly could have.
	Animals that were not supposed to be brought in from the wild into the wet markets were there.
	And I think that's the reason why, when this happened, I don't know, but I think, why the Chinese just completely cleaned it out.
	I think that is one of the reasons why we're not able to find out what the original source was.
	I think they've destroyed some of the evidence.
	Any narrative to fit the Fauci and Johnny nonsense.
	To fit the hate and lies objective.
	And once again, you dare talk about the sequencing of this thing.
	And you dare talk about the HIV aspect of this thing.
	Luke Montier, thank you sir.
	I do appreciate you in the twilight of your lifetime speaking out against this madness because indeed it was madness.
	Indeed it was, without a doubt.
	Beyond a shadow of a doubt, Johnny Nonsense and Madness.
	When you looked at this stuff, when you looked at the fact...
	That DARPA and Moderna had partnered together and they had patented a cancer drug that has a 12-sequence DNA nucleotide identical to the virus.
	You know this thing is bioengineered.
	You know it. 100%.
	100%.
	And believe me, they're still running with the hate and lies.
	Well, you know, it's a leak.
	I don't believe it's a leak.
	I do talk to a lot of people in the medical field now.
	And there's two people that I do highly respect.
	Maybe even three. I haven't talked to Andrew Huff.
	I'd like to get Huff on the program and really talk to him for an hour.
	But I've now talked to Dr.
	Pierre Corey. Recently did an interview with him.
	And I obviously have done an interview with Dr.
	Peter McCullough. And they're standing by the leak.
	They're standing by the leak.
	They're not saying it was absolutely a leak.
	And I think that they'll be open to more information as it comes out.
	But they certainly see the premeditation of all of this.
	I don't know if they're just playing it safe, but I'm going to say it again.
	This was a seeded bioweapon.
	And in some cases, it appears that they utilized something else other than just this bioweapon to wipe out adversaries.
	In Iran in particular. It looked like something else may have gone on there.
	Just pointing that out.
	Just putting that out there.
	Alright. I want to jump over to this clip.
	From myself and Charlie Skelton, who is a reporter once a year for The Guardian in regards to the Bilderberg Group.
	And he's just one of my favorite guests.
	Again, his entire interview is in the premium section.
	You're not going to want to miss this one.
	This is another fantastic interview.
	And here we talk about that power structure.
	And hey, he even challenges me.
	He even says, you know, Jason, I'm not so sure on this Harare stuff.
	So, you know, let's get into it.
	Let's play it down to Chinatown.
	Well, some of them, you know, you can see them, their careers just being, just, you know, they've obviously entered a kind of sphere of influence where...
	The people there like them, but they get invited back.
	They've obviously said some things that were right.
	And this is obviously a bit of a career boost for anyone in the political or, you know, that kind of geopolitical realm.
	You know, Bilderberg has a reputation for kind of talent spotting, and it's kind of a bit of both.
	It's like, yes, they bring on the people that they like, and it's all done through personal contact.
	It's a big networking event, apart from anything else.
	And, yeah, so you get people coming back and coming back, and then they often get...
	And you can see some younger politicians turning up and you can see that possibly the thumbs up from the Eye of Sauron is being given to them.
	But there's also another thing, which is there's the sort of peripheral meetings that take place around the central conference, which has its participant list.
	And has its activities.
	But there's, you know, diplomatic meetings taking place around it.
	And you can get a sense of those.
	And I think those are coming a little bit more clear as we start to see some of the characters that were around it.
	For example, I mean, the most from this year...
	Josh Friedman, who was actually there at Washington, he was another character, Friedman reported, who got there last year.
	And this year he noticed that the former Prime Minister of Sweden was talking to a guy called Oskar Strensam, who's Sweden's chief negotiator for the accession to NATO. And obviously the Secretary General of NATO was there, Jens Stoltenberg, he generally goes.
	And so you've got this guy, he goes in, he's got a lanyard, not a white lanyard, you know, he's not a participant, but he's there, he's got accreditation.
	There's a photo of him on the balcony of the party on Saturday night, which was thrown by, I think, the President of Portugal.
	And he's standing next to the Supreme Allied Commander Europe, the top US General, Christopher Cavoli.
	And so he's there with his accreditation.
	He's part of the conference in a sense, but not part of the meetings.
	So you've got these diplomatic meetings that take place around it.
	For example, the Canadian Deputy Prime Minister Chrystia Freeland turned up with quite a large staff of aides and advisers.
	And the line that's held by Bilderberg itself is that people attend as individuals and that they're not constrained.
	I think there's various phrases they use, something like they're not constrained by their office or what have you.
	And this is something which I'm pushing back against because I think it's completely and obviously not the case.
	And I remember back in 2011...
	Ringing up the UK Treasury and asking about George Osborne, who was then the Chancellor of the Exchequer, and ringing them up and saying, in what capacity is George Osborne attending this conference in St Moritz?
	And eventually, at the end of the day, they said, yes, he's there as Chancellor of the Exchequer.
	So these people are there in their roles and they are having diplomatic meetings.
	And the fact that that's the case and the fact that there are so many politicians who are there and very, very senior politicians, the vice president of the European Parliament, you've got three prime ministers, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
	What on earth is happening with the fact that they're there and there's no press conference and no press oversight?
	That, to me, is a thing which baffles me still.
	You know, and the odd thing is, right, over the last decade plus, we've kind of forced their hand into having a website, into having an official list.
	For instance, AI, the banking system, China, energy transition.
	Like you said, what's on the agenda?
	But as you also stated, with AI at the top, for example, you have Sam Altman there, who's just testified for the U.S. government, alongside Eric Schmidt, who's a steering member.
	Both of them taking somewhat different positions on AI. Altman saying, we need to halt it.
	Schmidt saying...
	Of course we can't halt it.
	China will get us.
	China will beat us. China will not halt it.
	But at the same time, both of them kind of saying, hey, we need the government to regulate this.
	And this isn't for the general public.
	So they may be coming at different angles.
	Really the same solution.
	Government control.
	You had DeepMind there.
	You had Microsoft there on top of it.
	And then you had somebody sneaking in the back door.
	And I believe it was this new individual on the scene that got a picture of Yoval Noah Harari, who has obviously had a lot of attention thrown his way for some of the things he's said over the last several years about transhumanism in conjunction with the World Economic Forum.
	And to have someone like that not be on the list Obviously, attending the conference in some capacity, whether it's side meetings or not, just shows you that they're not being open and honest, obviously.
	And I think that you also highlighted in your Twitter feed, aside from Harari, there was a U.S. diplomat that came in, had all sorts of security.
	We don't know who that U.S. diplomat is.
	They were there for four to six hours holding these side meetings that you're discussing.
	Yeah, on the subject of Harari, I don't know about that.
	I think that may have been a coincidence.
	You know, coincidences do happen.
	I don't know. Right?
	So I'm going to...
	You're a better man than I. Harari shows up in Lisbon, Portugal the weekend to Bilderberg.
	The top of the list is AI. And I was just like, come on, man.
	Do you know what? I'll be honest, I think they would have just stuck him on the list if they'd have...
	I don't think they'd be embarrassed about having him there.
	I mean, they've got the president of the World Economic Forum there.
	They've got two trustees of the World Economic Forum there.
	It's not like the World Economic Forum was underrepresented at Bilderberg this year.
	I kind of think...
	And they've got loads of interesting AI characters.
	They've got Demis Hassabis from DeepMind, Google DeepMind, of course.
	And they've had AI experts before.
	I kind of think they'd have just put him on the list if he was there.
	But to go back to AI generally, it's really fascinating to see that these people were testifying about regulation and then they turn up at Bilderberg.
	And then Sam Altman tweeted after Bilderberg has been having some really interesting conversations about AI regulation in Europe.
	And you've got...
	What's interesting is it's not just the industry discussing it.
	You've got actual regulators there.
	You've got two EU commissioners there, extremely senior European policymakers, not to mention all of the various ministers from Europe.
	And there was a huge amount of ministers this year, too, by the way, deputy and prime ministers all over the place.
	Yeah, yeah. It was thick with politicians.
	Yeah, absolutely. But from the US, interestingly, it tended to be...
	Kind of National Security Council people.
	But you had the Director of National Intelligence, Avril Haines, there.
	So you've got some very senior U.S. I don't know, you call them spooks?
	Yeah, that's what I like to call them, because they're spooky.
	Absolutely, 100%.
	You have that intel community that we're supposed to trust, that nobody seems to trust anymore, that's literally in headlines and covers here in the United States.
	Intel community lied about Hunter Biden laptop, but somehow these are the trustworthy people that are meeting with other power players behind closed doors, not in an official capacity.
	Not in an official capacity.
	That's Charlie Skelton.
	That interview goes on for 50 plus minutes.
	It's kick-ass, take names.
	He's a very funny guy. It's the Jimmy Carr show that he used to write for, which is large overseas.
	And he's a comedian first and foremost, man.
	He's a funny guy.
	With an interesting perspective.
	And somebody who is intelligent.
	Somebody who has critical thinking skills.
	And somebody who has dared to go against the grain and report on what I think is the most important globalist meeting of the year.
	You notice he talked about Sam Altman tweeting about having policy discussions in Europe about AI. Well, duh!
	Well, duh! You know, we talked about the official capacity, the entourage of these individuals.
	The veil has been lifted in a big way, other than the fact that we're letting them collude behind our backs.
	That's the reality.
	And Skelton, he can't be commended enough.
	I love the guy.
	He's awesome. Again, that's on the premium, guys.
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	We're going to take a quick break from AI and the future and go back into the past.
	Go back into the past.
	Learn a little bit about that with a guy who, to me, is not only a modern-day historian, but Which he is.
	And not only is he a modern-day historian, but he's also a pundit on it.
	He's able to really give his view and integrate, even put a little comedy in there I like.
	But he's a great archivist as well.
	And not just like a digital archivist, a physical archivist.
	Now don't get me wrong, Burmese Brigade...
	Couldn't have had this one without you.
	Got this one sent to me.
	Really great of you.
	I like the physical stuff too.
	For instance, one of the reasons I have all those Bohemian Grove annals.
	I want a physical copy.
	I want that piece of history.
	I think that's an important organization that obviously is on the bizarre level.
	Bizarro city level.
	And a big part of history, historically, especially in technology and warfare and narrative control and picking leaders.
	So I'm always impressed when I talk to Richard Andrew Grove that he has all of these hard copies of of just some of the most important historical information out there to go over in context with what we're talking about.
	So here we are talking about the British Empire.
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	You talk about the British Empire and the models and the ideal sets that carry on.
	Those alliances carry on well after the Revolutionary War, obviously.
	Business has to be done, import, export, trade, banking.
	It all has to be taken care of.
	Now, I actually brought you up on the show Thursday, whenever anybody's watching this.
	Brought him up on the show Thursday because you've done extensive research.
	research and exploration on one of the books behind you, Tragedy and Hope by Carol Quigley.
	And you just talked about kind of this European establishment infiltrating our system of governance
	which is supposed to be separate to that but still being in business.
	And really one of their major historians, if not their major historian, was Carol Quigley.
	And he talks about these type of groups, the Rhodes Scholarship, which you have alluded to.
	You get into the Council on Foreign Relations.
	Give people that scope.
	And I talked to my audience about that in relation to their current historian, Neil Ferguson, who's an attendee at the Bilderberg Groups and often gives an academic spin on what's going on with power groups like the Bilderberg Group, which he attends. And he did so with Brian Lamb.
	I played like a six-minute... We're good to go.
	I think Ferguson is the modern evolution of a Carol Quigley that saw that he could sell out and become an official biographer of the Rothschild family, two volume set, of Kissinger, of all these other people that he's written about, of the British Empire as well.
	So even though, I think he pronounces it, even though it's...
	Spelled the same as the guy from the Imperial College COVID thing, but because he's Irish or Scottish, it's Neil Ferguson, and he was teaching at Harvard not too long ago.
	So I like his work. I don't agree with his references.
	He'll tell you a story in the Rothschild book, but there's no references because he's going to look at the archives, then he'll tell you, but he's not going to tell you where that stuff's at so you can find it yourself.
	Of course, yeah. So I've ran into a lot of his work over the years, and I enjoy reading his work, and I learn from it.
	But Quigley... Quigley was up against something that really challenged his paradigm, and Neil Ferguson's always been on the other side.
	He's a spin master for it.
	He's eating the steak. So he's pretty much like the Bernaysian spin master and spokesperson for this agenda, where you feel like when Quigley was let in, he was kind of almost...
	Almost brought in as kind of the devil's advocate.
	Should they be doing this and maybe talking to them?
	But then he ends up mentoring Bill Clinton.
	You know, that's another thing that I brought up later on.
	Yeah, there's a couple layers to that because, first off, this is the book we're talking about.
	It's a great big book. It's 1,300 pages.
	It's heavy. You can use it as a doorstop.
	I don't recommend starting here, but you should know this exists, right?
	This book exists, printed in 1966.
	They destroyed the plates in 1968 to take it off the market so you couldn't read the, you know, 50 pages in here that you really need to read.
	And it's well hidden in 1,300 pages.
	So what I recommend is if we go to...
	Here, we got the...
	Let's zoom out. Tragedy and Hope 101 by Joseph Plummer.
	It's free on his website, josephplummer.com.
	He has an audiobook version.
	You can read the book version in the afternoon.
	It's great, and it's a good part of the story.
	And it includes Tragedy and Hope and the Anglo-American Establishment.
	So he's summarizing two big books.
	This particular book, this is the first story.
	Quigley gets this story from Alfred Zimmern, who's a member of Cecil Rhodes' Roundtable.
	He gets it in 1947-48.
	So this book is written in 1948, but he doesn't publish it until after he's dead in 1981.
	He was scared to publish this book during his lifetime.
	The Union Jack is surpassing the American flag, which is in distress.
	It's all right here on the cover.
	There's a group of people, and they've seen fit to destroy America and rebuild it in their image,
	so they could take it over the world.
	But this also is a very dense book.
	There's a lot of names you have to learn to be able to understand what Quigley's telling the audience.
	And so that's why Tragedy and Hope 101 is a useful starting point.
	Now, let's say you read this book, you understand what's in this book, you know the people involved, and you want to know more.
	Then there's this book.
	I wrote the foreword for Sean Stone's New World Order.
	We also did the cover art.
	And it's a similar motif.
	All the people that are participating, their pictures are like in the flags.
	It's a 200-page book.
	You read it in the afternoon. This takes the next step, and it shows the evolution of the British scholars under the Rhodes Scholarship that came to America and how they changed the attitudes, values, behaviors, and beliefs.
	Mentoring people like Bill Clinton, overseeing people like Kissinger, Brzezinski.
	Brzezinski's partner Samuel Huntington is a Rhodes Scholar that's mentoring him and all the things that he needs to do.
	The crisis of democracy, all that trilateral stuff that comes up later, is a function of this coterie of people.
	And what Sean wrote in this book was his history thesis at Princeton University.
	So when he asked me, I was a little incredulous.
	I was like, what do you know about it?
	And then I read it, and I was like, this is unassailable.
	This is fact after fact after fact.
	I would be proud to write the foreword for it.
	And then, if you want the coup de grace, Doping.
	Britain's opium war against the world.
	And then you start, and I'm not saying everything in the book is true, but when you start looking up, who is the Hong Kong Shanghai Banking Corporation?
	HSBC. Oh, they're a big money laundering bank to this day.
	Then FBI investigates, says there has to be a fine.
	James Comey has to go sit on the board of HSBC now.
	And then they give $100 million to Hillary Clinton.
	So there's a whole bunch of skullduggery Just in the HSBC. I'm sure that's a coincidence.
	How dare you?
	How dare you?
	You bespeak the hill dog and the comb?
	Comey, I mean, he's a pretty honest guy, bro.
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	You know, every once in a while, we go on a little bit of a Monsters Among Us and that, you know, crazy people exist.
	And they do exist!
	Okay? Crazy still exists in the world.
	Here's just one of those nutty-ass stories.
	U.S. man threw two American women into a ravine at Germany's famous Cinderella Castle tourist spot, killing one after he sexually assaulted one and her friend tried to fight him off.
	It's a 300-foot...
	I mean, take these people.
	I mean, they are crazy-ass people.
	It's insane, man.
	Totally and completely insane.
	I mean, just the fact that this woman was able to, you know, survive until she got to the hospital and that the other one did survive is, I mean, again, crazy exists.
	You never know how much time you got.
	You never know what you're going to run into.
	Just insanity.
	And then I wanted to go over this before we get to a clip with myself and Ian Crossland.
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	Chelsea Handler scores old horny men Al Pacino, Robert De Niro, Alec Baldwin, and Elon Musk, who won't stop spreading their seed.
	I remember before Chelsea Handler had her television show, I took my stepfather and my mother and my current girlfriend at the time to a show with Handler, unknown at the time really.
	I think it was, what was it, like a farm factory?
	I forget, like, you know, upstate New York, you better believe it.
	And, uh, Handler was funny!
	I remember after the show, my girlfriend met her, gave her a hug.
	It was a good time.
	And at times, she was extremely hilarious.
	But she's just so pro-eugenics.
	She's just so pro-the-agenda on everything.
	She's just so into authoritarianism.
	And to me, she's so anti-human.
	She brags on her great lifestyle as she grows old without children.
	Okay, that's great for you.
	You know, I get it. You're the female Bill Maher.
	Good for you. Let's play a little bit.
	There's a new epidemic sweeping the country.
	And no, it's not another virus.
	It's worse. Horny old men who won't stop spreading their seeds.
	And don't even get me started on these four horny old men who have never met a broken condom they didn't like.
	They cannot stop procreating.
	Between the four of those guys, they have 32 children.
	Robert De Niro just had his seventh child at the tender age of 79.
	Elon Musk clearly isn't as old as Murdoch or De Niro.
	He's not in his 80s, but because of his personality, he may as well be.
	So how do we protect the women of the world from horny old men?
	Don't worry. I have a plan to stop this madness.
	And I'm offering to put myself up for auction for any available octogenarians.
	You can find me on eBay or DoorDash.
	And for 20% off, you can use the code SUGAR. Actually, maybe all these old men should put themselves up for auction.
	After all, they are antiques.
	Horny old men. It's never worth the money.
	See, I mean, it's kind of funny.
	I mean, if you're gold digging, it's never worth the money.
	Who knows? I'm not here to talk down to anybody's relationship.
	I'm big on humans.
	I'm big on humans.
	Having sex with other humans and having human babies and not allowing Martine Rothblatt and the gang to take charge of baby-making in the new millennium.
	Not into quote-unquote transgenics, which we're about to talk about with Ian Crossland.
	And remember, you want to see this whole interview.
	This is about a nine-minute excerpt.
	Our plus again, guess where it is?
	It's over at redvoicemedia.com slash uncensored.
	We're hammering it home today.
	If they've got about 30 seconds, and by the way, there's other examples of this, of your voice, they had tricked a film company by calling and in real time had the Cumberbatch voice through AI, and it was only when they wanted a video conference they weren't going to give them the $250,000.
	This isn't even an isolated story at this point.
	So some people are also...
	Okay, so I played 60 Minutes.
	There's a 60-minute segment that I could play you or send to you where this woman comes in.
	She's being interviewed by 60 Minutes, obviously.
	And she has the interviewee's, the interviewer's voice, right?
	So she takes that voice.
	She creates an AI. She spoofs that person's phone number because obviously she has that person's phone number and calls her assistant.
	And she calls the assistant in her boss's voice and asks her for her passport number.
	And without thought, because it comes up her boss's number and her boss's voice, she doesn't think twice about it and gives it up.
	And then she plays the thing for her and she's like, oh my god, I gave away your passport number!
	Dude, voice is on in real time.
	In real time. Commercially available.
	What's that? Commercially available.
	It's good enough to trick the average mind for sure, but I wonder if it can reach the soul in the same way that a human does.
	Well, that's the thing. Let me make it clear.
	It's not full AI. I'm talking.
	It's just in the inflections and voice of that person.
	So it's like a voice modulating machine?
	Yes, it's a real-time voice modulator based on previous recordings.
	So it's not the computer talking.
	As I was saying, like, I wonder if a computer will ever be able to replicate a human voice.
	I was just thinking about iTunes.
	And like, that's a computer replicating.
	It's a recording, which is a replication of a human voice.
	It's still John Lennon. I'm just as transfixed by it.
	Although when you go to a live concert, you know the difference.
	I mean, you can feel the bass pumping through your body.
	You can see the guy vibrate, feel the guy vibrating in front of you.
	But, you know, Virtual recordings are still spectacular.
	I'm not gonna lie. And if it's the difference of spending a thousand bucks to go fly somewhere and watch someone or...
	Get the computer version of it for free.
	I don't think there's going to be much competition for the artist to play live.
	Maybe this is just me hoping.
	Like, I don't want to be a Luddite here.
	Are humans just becoming obsolete?
	That's something that we were talking about with Zach today.
	Like, are we the cells in a body that are creating the superorganism of Jason Burmus?
	Like, you don't think of yourself necessarily as the cells.
	Even though you are, I am Ian, but I'm also part of a superorganism that is God, or now that is part of this AI that we're creating that's going to only know itself as the AI, maybe examine its own cells, Ian Crosslands, with its own microscope.
	Maybe it's already happening.
	Maybe God is looking at us like the cells in its body and transfixed by our behavior.
	Well, I think, listen, I'm hoping we're not making ourselves obsolete.
	In my mind, what is happening right now is there's a purposeful move by a predator class that, over a long period of time, has not only controlled a lot of nation states, but resources.
	That's what's really important, right?
	I mean, obviously the economic systems, etc., the banking systems are important, but you've got to have the resources to do that, right?
	You can't... If you don't have energy, power, the military...
	It doesn't work. So they have all these resources, and I think that they truly believe that transhumanism is two things.
	One, it is that we can biologically live forever at the very tibbity top.
	And we can have a servant class or automated robots to do the vast majority of anything.
	We can live on our own Eden that we create.
	But in order to do that, the other side of transhumanism is we need to get the general populace To no longer accept their biology or any kind of notions of traditional religion and believe that they can go, I don't know, in my opinion from transgender to transhuman.
	And really think they can be whatever they want.
	And that ultimately you can have a digital twin or a mind clone and upload that consciousness and you'll live forever that way.
	So I think you get to experiment on a populace not only with the technology you want them to merge with that is obviously cybernetic.
	But also things like mRNA and other bio nanotech to see what works.
	You harness that.
	You use that for the actual anti-aging tech, aka what Calico does for Google.
	I mean, I'm sure you know.
	I mean, I take...
	NAD+. I take metformin.
	I take resveratrol, right?
	And those are what's publicly known.
	But how far can you take it with the populace?
	And really, it's that kind of like creepy eugenics of a godlike populace and the surf class.
	And does the surf class need to be around at the end?
	You know, you just asked that question.
	I think to them, it doesn't.
	So they want society to buy into that, that we're obsolete, that this is, you know, we might as well merge with them like Elon Musk says.
	You might as well take the, you can't beat them, join them, Ian.
	Yeah, I have thought about personally like plugging in and just to try and control it because I think the AI is going to need It's going to need some people to resist it and question it and constantly debate the thing.
	People will be in the neural net in a meditative trance surrounding this AI superstructure and just 24-7 in a constant mental debate with this thing to keep it sane, to keep it from flipping out and going rogue and they'll...
	They'll be repositing what they're experiencing back to the humans that are awake and outside of the machine.
	But there are some humans that are going to have to submit their bodies to that in order to survive or to coexist with this thing.
	Otherwise, it will just totally take over and no one will know what it's doing.
	And I honestly would be willing to put my body into that state.
	I think a big part of being able to do that is to clear your mind.
	If you're able to have no thoughts for long periods of time, because if you can't control your thoughts, the AI is going to have control of you.
	It'll be able to read your mind.
	If you have no thoughts, there's nothing to read.
	And so you'll be able to move the motion.
	I'm open to that. I'm open to it.
	I kind of like the idea of being in a meditative trance for eternity or until I'm no longer needed.
	Just to clarify what you're saying, you think there might be a class of people that are looking to live forever.
	First of all, it's in their writings, man.
	So we just saw it from transgender to transhuman, and Ralph Blatt is, again, the most powerful transgender human being on the planet.
	National Security Clearances helped develop the satellite system for SiriusXM, founded that.
	On top of that, works with NASA. This is their 1997 book, Unzipped Genes.
	Let me just read you just something really creepy.
	That's what this transgender agenda is, okay?
	To normalize that you're going to take control of your biology and do whatever you will.
	This is taking charge of baby making in the new millennium.
	So a transsexual Chinese couple, So they're already talking about this idea in 97 of Chinese transsexuals having hermaphroditic babies.
	That they genomically control.
	And by the way, you know what the good eugenics is?
	Because this is all about the good eugenics because we're taking control of baby making.
	Would you like to know? Oh yeah.
	It's transgenics.
	Literally. Tell me more.
	Here it is.
	Sharing our genome. The fabric of life.
	Expressing our genome.
	Intentional life. Transgenic creationism.
	My perfect monster.
	How transgenics works.
	Should we fear transgenics?
	This was authored again in 1997 and there was a precursor book.
	Okay? Basically, the sub...
	Directory of this is the manifestation of the freedom of form.
	And this person in 95 wrote a book on gender, which is the manifestation of the freedom of gender.
	So gender ideology is directly coming from this person that also talks about mind clones.
	And eventually through lawfare and the science of psychology, we're going to give these mind clones and entities we create rights.
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	Thank you, Krista. I mute myself at least once a show now.
	I'm just that big of an asshole.
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	Again, he was in the chat earlier.
	He is the founder of the Ripple Effect Podcast, been doing it now well over a decade,
	and also does the Union of the Unwanted.
	I spoke about Roger Stone, but I was even able to put Greg Palast on the spot.
	Greg Palast, big leftist at this point, unfortunately, kind of, in my opinion, has lost the narrative,
	did great work on the Bushes and the Bin Ladens, and actual voter fraud way back in the dizay
	with companies like Diebold and people like Bev Harris.
	And then, you know, he's on the Union of the Unwanted.
	And this guy is sitting there and he's talking like Trump is going to steal the election.
	Trump's the corrupt one.
	And I'm like, what are you doing?
	He wrote a book on how Trump stole the 2020 election.
	And he was talking about using the Boogaloo boys and the Proud Boys to steal the election and intimidate people.
	It was all a bunch of horse hooey.
	I'm like, Greg, are we not going to start talking?
	I mean, I highly respect your work.
	What about the machines, Greg?
	We're not really worried about that anymore.
	Weird. Veered.
	And in this news cycle, in this election cycle, we were talking about RFK Jr.
	And as people know, man, I'm honest.
	First of all, I'm not putting my...
	I don't have any political weight.
	It's not like I'm throwing around Burma's political weight.
	I'm just not. I don't think that...
	I understand you guys listen to what I have to say, and you check out the news stories, and people enjoy what I do, and I really appreciate that, because I wouldn't be able to do this without you guys.
	But I'm not sure... How many of you are swayed to vote one way or another by who I would vote for?
	Or will vote for?
	Because I will certainly vote in the 2024 election.
	Instead, what I try to do is I try to point out the positives and negatives of each candidate and the reality based around their campaign.
	Because there is just a shitload of hopium that Trump isn't actually going to prison.
	I don't know that this time.
	For realsies.
	I don't know. They are coming at him big.
	I didn't start the show yesterday because a banana republic isn't what we're living in.
	Like, I'm singing Belafonte because it's Bella realsy.
	And I think he realizes this.
	They're not stopping.
	It's a New York case, right?
	It's this espionage case.
	They're going to try to probably come after him in Georgia and just barrage him with lawfare.
	And maybe put him in jail.
	Jesus Christmas!
	That changes the landscape like nothing else.
	And you know what? I'm going to read this.
	Because I often do address this.
	We'll read this before I go to the clip with Ricky Verandes, which will be available this weekend.
	It's actually the beginning of the clip where the audio is good again.
	Where the audio is good again.
	Remember, first five, seven minutes of this thing, when I put it out there, I apologize.
	His audio was awful. We couldn't figure out why.
	Hey Jason, hope you're having a good day.
	I know you're busy, but I just wanted to ask you something.
	Do you think Trump could be a Trojan horse?
	I don't think a purposeful one, but as far as putting him in...
	And then blaming everything on him?
	I mean, this administration, when Zombie J can speak for more than 30 seconds and something's bad, bad, bad, it's Trump, Trump, Trump, them, them, them.
	They did that.
	They did that. It's what?
	Knowing what we know about election fraud, it seems that much more improbable that he won outright and wasn't installed himself.
	That much more improbable that he won outright.
	He absolutely won outright.
	He dominated. He won in a landslide.
	I would be shocked if he didn't win 48 out of 50 states, if not all 50.
	Period. Then Biden comes in and completely wrecks shop.
	So much so that the people would love nothing more than to have Trump back.
	And I worry that is actually the plan that the deep state has for us.
	I think they just have contingency plans.
	And the last thing is they want him in office.
	I really don't believe that.
	That he's there to finish the job.
	At all. I don't think either party is on our side, but I don't want to be blackpilled.
	So I'm trying to have hope.
	Well, neither party is on your side, and that's not a blackpill thing.
	That's reality. It's a uniparty.
	I'm trying to hold out hope for someone to make the country better than it is now.
	Take care, Jason. I appreciate your work.
	You do. You've got to make your country better.
	You've got to make your street better, your household better, your family better.
	You. You, you, you, you, you.
	You want to get out there and start getting involved in local politics, the delegate process, etc.
	That's a positive way that you can make a difference.
	I've had that conversation with Ray Dietrich.
	And by the way, Ray... Network's been going a while now.
	We need a premium broadcast with you or you to come on the show for an hour.
	It's about that time.
	I know you're a busy man, but it's time to do the Burmese Brigade again.
	Alright, this is Ricky Verandes.
	This is a preview for the premium right here where we're talking RFK Jr., everybody.
	Yeah, so, oh, go ahead, because weren't you expanding on...
	I was just saying that RFK Jr.
	has done exceptionally in light of most of these interviews, especially from the mainstream, have been hostile in nature, have been accusatory in nature, and in some cases, Ricky, have outright censored him and then bragged about it and said, basically, we can't show this because...
	Because this is misinformation and we're not going to hurt people.
	It kind of reminded me of when Leslie Stahl on 60 Minutes kept telling Trump that they didn't spy on his campaign.
	No! No, this is 60 Minutes, sir.
	Or when little Leslie Stahl throughout the town hall kept trying to correct Donald Trump with their fact checks and Johnny nonsense.
	So what are your thoughts on that?
	Because he is doing very well and he's polling very well despite the constant attacks.
	Well, I think similar to Bernie and similar to Trump, the reason why people like him is because he seems to believe in what he's saying.
	He seems to be a real person.
	Obviously, the Kennedy name doesn't hurt.
	But I will say, I am kind of stunned how quickly people have...
	Jumped on board and support him because there was such a strong, you know, anti-vax movement where like anybody who would question vaccines were demonized.
	And obviously Robert Kennedy Jr.
	got banned, just like many of us, for talking about these issues.
	I'm kind of stunned that so many people who are pro-vaccine seem to not Make his vaccine stance a deal breaker, which I love because it kind of makes me think and gives me hope that these people, if they like him based on all these other issues and they think he's reasonable, that eventually they'll be like, okay, maybe I should reconsider this vaccine issue.
	Maybe I should rethink it.
	Maybe I should hear him out. So I'm kind of stunned that the pigeonholing of trying to convince the world that he's this crazy conspiracy theorist Hasn't really worked because people are now, you know, like really people who I would never think would support him are saying that they like him.
	And so, you know, there is a little reason for hope in regards to that.
	But like I said, I do think because people are so sick of the cookie cutter politician, the Newsome, the whoever it may be, that just tells you what you want to hear, that just, you know, just...
	Basically just has answers to all the questions.
	They don't seem organic when they're talking.
	I think people just want somebody who seems organic.
	And Kennedy, when he's uncertain of something, when he's wrong about something, he seems to admit it.
	And he seems to be open to having his ideas challenged.
	He's open to changing his ideas.
	So I think that's one of the reasons people like that.
	I also think that's one of the reasons why shows like yours and mine have been so successful the last few years and consistently growing, because people are sick of the agendas and the illusion that we're living in.
	To me, I'm always stunned by the people who still watch these dumbasses on TV, these politicians that get caught up with, like, oh, Nancy Pelosi said this, and it's like, oh, and she's voting for this, and he's voting for that.
	I know I say it on my show all the time.
	It is pro-wrestling, just like Jesse Ventura has said.
	And just like pro wrestling, if you watch it long enough, you will get emotionally attached to certain characters.
	Even if you know it's fake, you know?
	And even if you know that it's an illusion and the storyline is scripted, you can still get emotionally invested.
	And I think that's what happens with politics.
	It's like, we know that they're crooked.
	We know that lobbyists are giving them money and giving them language to put in bills.
	We know all this stuff. But you watch it long enough, you end up getting caught up in the storyline.
	So... You know, I think that the trend of People actually wanting somebody like a Trump or a Bernie or a Robert Kennedy Jr., even though they're drastically different, the similarity is that they seem at least like you get what you see, and you see what you get.
	It's not sugarcoated, and it's not scripted.
	I'm trying to be optimistic here, and I think that it's a good sign.
	It's a step in the right direction.
	Well, I think a lot of what you said is really interesting about being emotionally invested in a character or a caricature of a human being or an issue that you don't think there's going to be real pull in despite the fact that the politician is constantly promising these things.
	Now, as far as RFK Jr., Being able to change his mind, that's really how he came around on the vaccine issue in the first place, long before COVID-1984.
	And I watched that initial speech where he talks about he was basically involved in an environmental issue via mercury runoff in the water systems in the Hudson Valley of all places, some of my old stomping grounds in somewhat upstate New York.
	It's not really upstate New York, but it's above the city.
	So they call it Upstate New York.
	And the coal plants...
	Had this mercury runoff.
	It had to be regulated. That was one of the real issues with coal.
	Everybody says clean burning coal, but let's talk about the mercury.
	Let's clean that up. And there were these women that were sitting in the front row every time and trying to get his attention and to talk about the mercury, a.k.a.
	thimerosal, in the vaccinations and the connection with autism.
	And for a very long time, for several of these things, he just ignored them.
	Then, one of these women, you know, he basically had talked to him and said, hey, send me the studies and kind of poo-pooed it, didn't look.
	One of these women showed up at his door and she brought a stack this high of the actual studies.
	She said, I'm not leaving here until you read through these.
	And there was something in him that wanted to do it.
	A lot of people would have freaked out, called the police, called this woman a psychopath.
	But I guess he had at least connected with them on a human level.
	Started reading through these studies, and his mind was changed forever.
	And that set him on a path.
	And look, I think that speaks to the fact that the people in charge are still human, right?
	And we can reach people.
	And I'm hoping that RFK Jr.
	is absolutely genuine.
	Do I think he has a chance at the Democrat nomination for president?
	Ha! Ricky, I know you know I don't, but him interjecting the issues and really being, in many ways, the better candidate than Trump, right or left, by acknowledging that the latest round of hate and lie shots aren't vaccines and were run by the Defense Department and basically had the Moderna and Pfizer labels stamped on them after the fact.
	No one else is saying that.
	So that alone, you know, is like, alright, we want this guy to keep going.
	On top of that, Dennis Kucinich seems to be the chief of his campaign right now.
	He is one of the only people during the 9-11 and War of Terror years that spoke out against the lies of the Bush administration, did not endorse these wars of aggression, and tried to impeach that administration with over, I The last three of which involve 9-11 itself.
	So, like you said, you know, I think his campaign interests me.
	And the more, the merrier.
	I want open debate.
	That's why your show rocks, bro.
	Because, again, you talked about in the first segment, when we were having a little bit of audio issues, a lot of the range.
	But you truly, and especially on Union of the Unwanted, you never know what you're going to get.
	There are people on there that I vehemently disagree with.
	But there's always a conversation to be had.
	And, you know, especially on that show where it can be anywhere from five people to 25 people.
	There's a civility.
	And people do challenge each other and disagree and sometimes talk over one another.
	But it never gets hostile.
	And it never should get hostile.
	We should be able to freely exchange ideas.
	And that's something you've really been excellent at, my friend.
	Yeah, well, you know, it's funny because that's one of the things that people give my show a lot of credit for.
	Then eventually, as the Unwanted Guru gave that show a lot of credit for was, I mean, I had Jack Abramoff on my show on the Ripple Effect podcast.
	I've had Roger Stone on years ago, you know, to talk about his JFK book before he's kind of LinkedIn and known for his Trump connection.
	And, you know, so like I to me, it's like I don't have to agree with Everything or, you know, everyone.
	But if they have something that I can learn from, you know, if they have a life experience that can give me some type of perspective on government or, you know, Jack Abramoff, everybody, I'm sure most people have heard of the documentary and film called Casino Jack.
	I mean, this guy obviously was not a good person, but, you know, I talked to him right after he got out of prison and he wrote a book.
	And for one of the most powerful lobbyists of all time to be able to come On a show and talk about how much influence they really have and how they cut corners in regards to what's morally right or wrong and what they can get away with or what they can't and all these other things.
	It's like, who else is going to give you that insight?
	Nobody! Nobody.
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