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	Thank you.
	Pardon his adult son, Hunter, who was convicted of 12 federal crimes, six of them felonies, including tax evasion and unlawful gun possession.
	Sources told CNN today that President Biden did not go through the office of the pardon attorney at the Justice Department as a standard.
	In fact, President Biden has been discussing pardoning his son with top aides since Hunter's conviction in June.
	Oh, a desperate attempt from little Jakey Tapper to salvage what little, if there is any, left of his reputation as a journalist.
	You're annoyed, Jake Tapper.
	CNN is annoyed that you were lied to.
	Well, perhaps you shouldn't have lied to us for the last eight years about Russia, Russia, Russia, impeachment, Mar-a-Lago raids, and everything else.
	Welcome, dear friends.
	This is America first for the next three hours.
	Don't go anywhere.
	We have some incredible guests to discuss.
	That, the pardon and so much more, none other than Miranda Devine, the author of the original Laptop from Hell story, which was turned into a book.
	Lord Conrad Black, who I'm sure will have a few things to say about.
	Prime Minister Trudeau visiting Mar-a-Lago recently and then on what has to be done after the January 20th inauguration with the deep state, the expert on the permanent bureaucracy and the threat to the republic, none other than the author of the plot against the president and the permanent coup, Lee Smith.
	But first, let's talk about that.
	Let's talk about the story of the pardon and what it actually means for America.
	What have we been told for the last eight years and especially the last four years?
	We've been told that my former boss and God willing my impending future boss as well is a threat to democracy.
	That he mustn't be above the law.
	That he must pay for his crimes.
	What crimes?
	Ask any Democrat voter what President Trump was convicted of in that obscene travesty of a trial in New York in front of Judge Juan Merchan.
	And you won't get an answer because no crime was committed.
	The idea that President Trump, for months on end, had to stand in vain.
	A court of law in New York because he paid back his loans on time, because the banks with whom he did business wanted to give him new loans because he was such a superlative customer,
	And that the judge lied about the incredible property that is Mar-a-Lago only being worth $18 million at the same time as his daughter was making multiples of that as a fundraiser, a strategist, an advisor for the Democrat Party against which President Trump was running and which he eventually defeated.
	In the personage of Kamala Harris.
	Now, how many Americans know just the rough outline of what I just said? .
	Very few.
	You do, because you listen to this show.
	Like me, you're probably an addict of political news, and you don't just listen to these three hours, but you listen to many other radio programs, on Salem, podcasts, you watch the cable news, you're on social media, on and on and on.
	But even if we are in a minority, although President Trump did break his record from four years ago of 74 million votes, he's closer to 77 right now in his re-election.
	The fact is, most Americans who do not know the minutiae of that case Of the fraudulent classified documents Mar-a-Lago case, or the Fannie Willis election interference case, or the Jack Smith insurrection investigations, all of which have basically collapsed.
	Even Juan Merchanin.
	A decision that surprised me a little bit.
	As managed with the corrupt Soros prosecutor from New York, decided to push out the sentencing of that abortion of a trial till after President Trump serves his second term of office.
	Most Americans, even if they are apolitical or don't consume the news as deeply and as richly as you do, they know one thing.
	It's just wrong to have the leader of the opposition, the man who faced off and then defeated the other party's candidate for the presidency, have his home raided, have to face the indignity of a mugshot.
	I think Corey Lewandowski may be right.
	I had him on my show before Thanksgiving on my Newsmax show.
	Please tune in for the next six weeks before I get to do another job.
	You don't want to miss the next few episodes of the Gawker Reality Check Sunday nights on Newsmax because they'll be special.
	I think Corey's right though, when he said in my last show, the pre-Thanksgiving show, that's when everything changed.
	The Georgia mugshot.
	Yes, the Butler assassination attempt would come later, and for many people who weren't political at all, or who may have been Democrats who were starting to question the radicalism, the un-Americanism of their own party,
	maybe it was the Butler bullet The attempted assassination that was the final catalytic moment for them to go from being neutral or left-wing to supporting President Trump.
	But I think Corey might be right.
	The first truly seminal moment was the photograph.
	There's a reason that I, myself, and so many others put it, what, on social media, on t-shirts, on mugs?
	Why?
	Because there's nothing American about that.
	A man who has garnered first 63 million votes, then 74 million votes, who is the candidate of the one of the two political parties for the presidency, And he's put through the indignity, like he was a DUI driver, like he was a burglar of a booking photograph.
	Go back and have a look at that photograph and tell me it isn't a seminal, historic snapshot in time.
	The President's expression.
	For me, he looks like an American eagle, looking in the camera, undaunted, unbroken.
	Yes, he won.
	Thanks to you.
	God bless every single one of you who took my exhortation seriously.
	Not just to support President Trump, but to get out there, knock on doors, run phone banks, donate, cajole and convince others.
	God bless every single one of you.
	Because you're part of the restoration of America.
	However, The battle has just been joined.
	The real work begins after the victory, and especially at 12 o'clock on January the 20th.
	Because four years, it's not a long time.
	And in fact, the next election will be in just two years' time.
	We have to restore America.
	I'd like you to be a part of that.
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	we need Miranda's book.
	I've got both of them.
	Show them to me.
	Laptop from Hell.
	Laptop from Hell, yeah.
	And The Big Guy.
	The Big Guy.
	Which one are you going to call first?
	I'll do them in that order.
	Laptop from Hell and The Big Guy.
	Copy that.
	And she's connected.
	Uh...
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	Hello, Sebastian.
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	It's so freaky.
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	So, any message for your former employer?
	Oh, yes.
	Just tell him I love him and think he's a wonderful writer and read everything I can that I see that he's written.
	Good.
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	So, I think we're going to be talking about this for at least the next 48 days.
	Chairman Comer has something to say about the pardon issued by the current incumbent for his son, Hunter Plekut.
	I believe two other Biden family members definitely and knowingly committed crimes.
	In addition to Hunter Biden, you have Jim Biden and Joe Biden.
	Joe Biden obstructed Chairman Jordan's investigations.
	He lied multiple times.
	He lied about his knowledge and involvement.
	We had sworn testimony from Bob Alinsky and Devin Archer that said that Joe Biden He knew all along what was going on.
	He was selling the brand, his brand.
	He was selling access to our enemies around the world, and he lied, just like Jim Jordan said in the debate about the laptop, and he lied when he said he wasn't going to pardon his son.
	So, yes, Joe Biden, in my opinion, has committed crimes.
	Tough words from Chairman Comer.
	Can they be substantiated?
	Let's talk to the lady who actually predicted the pardon of Hunter Biden, the author of the original Laptop from Hell, and also the big guy.
	How a president and his son sold out America.
	Miranda Devine, welcome back to America First.
	Thanks for having me, Sebastian.
	So, given the audio clips and video clips that have been played of you across conservative media for the last 24 hours, it sounds as if Sunday's decision did not catch you by surprise, Miranda.
	No, not at all.
	And I think the hint that it was about to come was the leak by Hunter Biden's lawyers to the Washington Post Of this 52-page ridiculous document entitled, it was the prosecution of Hunter Biden, but really the premise was the persecution of Hunter Biden by his father's Department of Justice.
	And the Attorney General appointed by his father, Merrick Garland, who has overseen the weaponization of the Department of Justice against Donald Trump.
	So somehow, in his pretzel logic, we are supposed to believe that sort of right-wing resistance within the Department of Justice are persecuted against.
	poor old innocent Hunter.
	The truth is the opposite, of course, as we know from, well, Tony Bobulinski, but most pertinently from the IRS whistleblowers, Gary Shapley and Joe Ziegler, who testified to Congress that the investigation that they were supposed to be conducting into Hunter who testified to Congress that the investigation that they were supposed to be conducting into Hunter Biden's various crimes and alleged crimes was just obstructed by the Department of Justice, by the
	They never got a clear run.
	And any time they tried to pursue an evidence trail that led to Joe Biden, the big guy, they got stopped.
	And so...
	I mean, basically, they're quite right, the Bidens, when they claim that Hunter Biden got different treatment from anyone else.
	He got special treatment, and the only reason he got charged with anything was because of the IRS whistleblowers coming forward and embarrassing and potentially causing...
	Problems for both David Weiss, the U.S. attorney there, and Merrick Garland, who allegedly perjured himself when he testified to Congress and said, oh, no, you know, David Weiss has all the powers he needs, when actually David Weiss didn't have all the powers he needed.
	And there were U.S. attorneys appointed by Joe Biden who How much credence do you give?
	We're talking to Miranda Devine.
	Follow her right now at Miranda Devine.
	How much credence are you giving to the reports that this was really Jill Biden's doing and she told the incumbent president to not go through the pardon office and just to issue this statement on Sunday?
	Oh, phooey.
	Absolute garbage.
	It's just part of another fake narrative from Joe Biden, the fabulist.
	Which has been swallowed again, hook, line and sinker, by the New York Times, etc.
	That, you know, Joe didn't lie when he told us at least a dozen times and got poor old Corrine Jean-Pierre to say the same thing, that he had no intention of pardoning Hunter.
	No way.
	He was such an upright citizen and prized the rule of law so much that he would never do that.
	Well, NBC has a story that Joe Biden discussed with his closest aides Back in June, about giving Hunter this pardon.
	And sure enough, that's what happened.
	And they deliberately decided that they would lie to the American people to make sure that they didn't have any fallout during the election campaign.
	And Joe just decided to do it because Hunter's coming up for sentencing shortly.
	And do you expect in the next 48 days to see a flurry of other pardons, maybe even by Joe for himself?
	Yeah, I do.
	I'm not sure he'll do it for himself, even though his reputation has taken a big hit.
	That would be an admission of guilt.
	And he has always maintained that he had nothing.
	Well, it started off, he knew nothing about his son Hunter's overseas business dealings.
	That was the lie that he brought him into office.
	And then he sort of changed that evolved until finally it became he's not in business with his son Hunter.
	He never got any money from his son Hunter.
	It evolved.
	But he always lied about that when he was front and centre.
	He was always, you know, meeting Hunter's business partners, having breakfast with them, dining with them, meeting them in Beijing, inviting them to Washington, D.C., to his residence.
	So, he was on the speakerphone all the time too.
	So, it's just impossible for him to pretend that he was not heavily involved in his family's influence peddling program.
	Hang on, hold the line, hold the line, hold the line.
	Miranda Devine, the author of The Laptop from Hell and The Big Guy, How a President and His Son Sold Out America.
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	So you don't think he's going to try and pardon himself? - Well, I mean, he doesn't really need to because you saw what Robert Hur said.
	He said a jury would find it difficult to convict him no matter how guilty he is because he's basically touched in the head.
	So, you know, my theory is that, yeah, he's obviously cognitively failing, but he has enough muscle memory of cunning and sly Tammany Hall sort of abilities that he certainly outsmarted Nancy Pelosi and probably the but he has enough muscle memory of cunning and sly Tammany Hall sort I mean, he's left them in ruins.
	Right.
	Right.
	And how significant is it that they don't seem to have drawn the requisite conclusions of what happened on November the 5th?
	Yeah, it's funny, isn't it?
	I don't know if you saw that Pod Save America interview.
	Yeah, I saw clips from it.
	Yeah, I listened to the whole thing the other night and it's really fascinating because they seem just like helpless babes in the woods.
	They're just talking about how Trump sort of beat them with men and beat them online and beat them on, you know, get out the vote.
	They just seem, and they say, oh, he's a special candidate.
	We can't really create policies for him because there'll be no one like him again.
	I mean, it's quite incredible.
	It would be great for Trump's ego to listen to it.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Which means there's only two options left open to them.
	They double down and they're even more radical or they keep on this path and sooner or later some rational person has to come along but I just don't see that rational person.
	I think that they're really undergoing a crisis because the donors are really annoyed, really angry.
	I mean, you saw the James Carvel blow up.
	Yes.
	I mean, I think he's a bit of an idiot, but I think he reflects a mood in the party that is just so angry.
	And I think they're angry with Joe, and that's why this pardon has just landed like, you know, A turd at a picnic or whatever.
	I mean, it's just...
	They're so angry about it.
	Turd in the punch bowl.
	Turd in a punch bowl.
	Sorry, yes.
	I don't use that phrase very much.
	Get your lewd references right, Divine.
	Yeah, well, it was James Carville did it to me because he's constantly swearing.
	Yeah.
	Come in.
	I'll do...
	Come in with ten.
	Then I'll do my pillow.
	And then I might play cut five, John.
	Copy that.
	Oh, can you connect Jeff with Shipley, with the whistleblower, Miranda?
	Gary Shapley?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, sure.
	What I might do is I'll connect you with his lawyer, because they're very conscious.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	I'll do that now.
	Thank you.
	This
	is Joe Biden going retrospectively going back 11 years to ensure that he himself is not ensnared in any investigation into his family's influence peddling around the world.
	earning millions of dollars when he was vice president.
	There you have it.
	She predicted it.
	It's about Joe covering his own backside and his brothers.
	It's not about Hunter.
	Hunter was just the bag man.
	And maybe a pardon for himself is out of the question because maybe he's just too fried.
	This was Joe Biden in Angola, as in Angola, Africa.
	I don't think Joe understands that Angola is actually a nation and not a city.
	Cut five.
	You know, with you and Angola, a vibrant city, and look, not the city.
	The city, I know, is not Angola, but in Angola, in a vibrant city.
	That man's the president.
	I think we're going to have to play that again later.
	There is an Angola in New York State, but Cho, you flew to Africa.
	You're in the nation of Angola.
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	It turned into the book, The Laptop from Hell, and then more recently, your follow-up work, The Big Guy, How a President and His Son Sold Out America.
	Why is this story not a story, Miranda, that ends with this pardon or ends on January the 20th when President Trump raises his hand for a second time to become the Commander-in-Chief?
	Well, I mean, I think the most important reason is because, I mean, the book is about the deep state cover-up of Biden corruption.
	And I think that's the bigger story and the scarier story, because you saw all these security apparatus of the country, which we pay billions of dollars to keep us safe, all swung in behind Joe Biden and has which we pay billions of dollars to keep us safe, all swung in behind Joe Biden and has been protecting him and his brother and particularly his son
	That includes the FBI, the CIA, the Department of Justice, the IRS, the Department of State, you name it.
	They have been protecting Joe Biden for many years because he's their puppet.
	And they protected his son, I guess, allowed all the grift to go on as a sort of a side deal in return for Biden giving them his fealty.
	And those same people that propped up Kamala Harris are the same people that protected Joe Biden and the same people who attacked Donald Trump even before he took office in his first presidency.
	Now, there's no love lost.
	We were talking in the break how Nancy Pelosi and Obama were torpedoed by Joe anointing Kamala after he was pushed out of office.
	But what do you say to those who theorize, including my colleague Dan Bongino, that this isn't even about the Bidens.
	This is all about protecting Obama because Obama is the guy at the center of all the real corruption who had to know about what was going on in Ukraine with Hunter and everybody else.
	What is the nexus with Obama?
	Yeah, I know that theory, and I'm not saying I'm right, but I'm not fully on board with that.
	I think it's more that Obama was a puppet of the deep state, just like Joe Biden was.
	I mean, he made Joe Biden his VP and gave him full carriage of foreign policy, which is what...
	I mean, the deep state is what Trump calls it.
	The blob is what the Obama people called it, which is that...
	You know, the Pentagon, the CIA and the State Department.
	And they have a particular agenda, foreign policy agenda, which was disastrous and is disastrous.
	You can see the product in Joe Biden's impact around the world with all these wars.
	And the same thing with Obama.
	I mean, Putin did not invade his neighbours when Donald Trump was president, but he did the minute that Obama and Biden took office.
	So, you know, that's just part of it.
	I mean, the problems in the Middle East and so on.
	And Donald Trump is regarded by these people as an existential threat because he does not, unlike Obama and Biden, follow their foreign policy.
	Well, not just because of that, but because he isn't beholden to any of them.
	That's why he's a real threat to all of them.
	He's uncontrollable.
	Yeah, he's beyond their control.
	He is his own actor, and the only thing he cares about is America.
	We're talking to Miranda Devine, journalist, author.
	Follow her at Miranda Devine right now.
	God bless you, Miranda.
	Keep doing what you do.
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	The pun wasn't Jill's idea.
	You know what he should do, Biden?
	His little revenge tour because he's furious with Pelosi?
	Yeah.
	Is pardon her and her husband for insider trading.
	You gotta tweet that out and send it to me.
	That's too good.
	That's too good.
	See if you can get Jason on the show.
	He's shutting down all the other cabinet members, but see if you can get him on.
	He hasn't been announced yet, has he?
	No.
	Yeah, he's on anything, right?
	No, no, but he's in control of comms, and he's telling people not to do media.
	Gotcha.
	But if he can, get him on.
	Thank you.
	Why lie about it for so long?
	I would stop calling it a lie.
	I just, you know, it is a president's prerogative.
	You know, people can say, why are you doing that?
	But that's what presidents do every time.
	They do it every time they pardon somebody.
	So I'm not sure why the pro-clutching is happening now, except that that's what folks want to do.
	But it seems kind of foolish.
	You kind of knew he was going to do it, given all that's happened.
	But maybe I'm just kooky.
	Maybe you are just cookie.
	All the pearl clutching.
	I wonder whether you would call it just pearl-clutching if people had issues with, oh, I don't know, President Trump pardoning one of his sons.
	I think Whoopi Goldberg would have a rather different take.
	But, hey, consistency is not their thing, is it?
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	Nancy, happy Tuesday.
	Good afternoon, Dr. G. As an aside, my favorite lie by the Biden clan, next to the lie that Joe Biden was not going to pardon Hunter, was when Biden's brother testified to Congress that he threw away the over three-carat perfect diamond that the Chinese had given to Hunter.
	But I'm thinking that once Why would they?
	Well, there may be an incentive for them to do so.
	What kind of incentive?
	I don't see that a lot on the left.
	The left tends to hang together.
	It may not just be people on the left.
	It may be people who can be afraid of themselves getting caught up in some criminal claim.
	But my understanding is that the presidential pardon can only be applied to federal crimes.
	Correct.
	And if that's true, I think it would be fun to see the district attorneys and the attorneys general in almost every state Bring a lawsuit against Hunter and all of the Bidens.
	Where have you seen evidence of that, of brave district attorneys across America?
	Yeah, give me one example.
	Well, we have a number who already prosecuted Trump, okay?
	Yeah, no, I'm talking about people who aren't lunatic left-wingers funded by Soros.
	So can you give me an example of a patriot and a conservative local prosecutor who did the right thing in the last eight years?
	Well, you know, we have Pam Bondi stepping into a role.
	Yeah, at the federal level.
	I'm asking for you to give me an example at a local level.
	You have to live in the real world, my friend.
	Right?
	If we hadn't seen in the last four years one attorney general, one local state prosecutor, I don't know, file an aiding and abetting charge against Alejandro Mayorkas for working with the cartels.
	Why would you expect it after January the 20th, my dear?
	Well, they can't do it while the corrupt Biden administration...
	Of course they can!
	We're a republic of state!
	They will have their personal life exposed and it will be the politics of personal destruction.
	Well, you think that ends on January the 20th?
	Do you think the mainstream lying prostitute media ceases to exist?
	Well, they're already on their way out the door, hopefully.
	The media?
	Yeah.
	I just, you know, I don't think you live in the real world, my dear.
	Well, it's a hope.
	Well, yeah, but hope isn't a strategy.
	True.
	The other thing...
	Go ahead.
	I've got lots of calls.
	Go ahead.
	I would very much like, you know, now that Hunter's off the hook, I'd like all of the pictures, all the videos, and all the information on the laptop released to the public.
	It is available to the public.
	You just have to look for it.
	There's an actual website that has it all.
	Thank you, Nancy.
	Let's go to Beryl, Missouri.
	Yeah, have you seen that movie Dances with Wolves?
	Yeah, about 30 years ago.
	Yeah, you remember John Dunbar when he wanted to go to the farthest post out in the frontier to see it?
	And the way that guy saluted him when he was leaving, that reminds me of Biden every time I see him salute something.
	Yeah, he's not very good with his salutes, is he?
	They're just pathetic.
	Yep.
	But I don't think that's the real problem with Joe Biden, is it, my friend?
	No, I can't remember where he's at.
	No, the fact he's one of the most corrupt politicians in American history.
	I don't think his salutes are the big problem.
	Yeah, I know it's not the salute, but it's just disgusting the way he is treating the United States and everything, and the people.
	Well, of course.
	You hang in, you're doing a heck of a job.
	Well, just remember that incredible moment when, I think it was in the rain, it was a really windy day, and President Trump got off Marine One and that Marine's cover flew off his head.
	And what did the Commander-in-Chief do?
	He chased that cover down, picked it up, and put it back on the Marine's head.
	That's a man who cares about our armed forces and, in fact, knows how to salute our armed forces.
	Look at any of the footage from Arlington Cemetery or when President Trump is among our troops.
	It's the minimum show of respect.
	And he loves all of our armed forces.
	Thank you, my friend.
	It's one of the most important things you can do for yourself.
	You've got to exercise.
	You've got to eat right.
	But, oh, my gosh, I got such a good night's sleep yesterday.
	If you have trouble getting a good night's sleep with regularity, stop what you are doing right now.
	Katie, talk to us about Z Factor.
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	Yes, stand by.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Never again do I want to hear, "Oh, Donald Trump's a liar.
	You can't believe anything he says.
	Donald Trump will abuse his power.
	Donald Trump will only use the system to benefit himself and his family and so on and so forth.
	Never again.
	I have one question for Karen.
	And that is, why did he need an 11-year blanket pardon going back to 2014 when Joe Biden was the vice president?
	We are sitting on the biggest cover-up of who knows what crimes, and Joe Biden amazingly knows exactly, roughly, when it started.
	He knows just about when it all started.
	He's leaving office in complete and total disgrace.
	He is a liar.
	That's on CNN. Jeff, that Scott Jennings guy, do you buy it?
	Or is he just like the guy they give a script to to be the token conservative on CNN? He's the token conservative.
	And he said a lot of things in the past that was anti-Trump.
	Right.
	Anti-Carrie Lake, all that stuff.
	I think it's an act.
	What's your gut tell you?
	All right, when you have the election with Carrie Lake in like 600 different places, they can't print a paper, and you're screaming that she has to come up with some evidence if she wants to fight the election.
	What do you think?
	Yeah, I think you're right.
	I don't buy it.
	It's fun to watch on CNN, but I don't buy it for a millisecond.
	Let's go back to your calls.
	Our good friend in Silver Spring, Victor!
	Hey, Sebastian, I'm enjoying my slippers that I got a week ago.
	I got the moccasins, and they are really comfortable.
	When I get home, I live in my MyPillow moccasins, so I can fully relate.
	But I'm sure that's not why you're calling us today, Victor.
	My question is, Donald Trump keeps saying that he's going to Deport the illegal aliens, especially the criminal element.
	What about the other people who didn't commit crimes but snuck in anyway?
	Well, that is a crime, Victor.
	You know, coming into America as an illegal alien makes you a criminal, right?
	Yes.
	So, there's no people who snuck in.
	You can't sneak in and not have committed a crime.
	Got it?
	I just don't understand.
	I know.
	If I snuck into another country, I'd be deported immediately.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Try it in Mexico.
	Try to sneak into Mexico and see what happens to you, Victor.
	Yeah.
	I'm just worried that...
	These people who came in and didn't commit any crimes are going to unfortunately stay here unless they're deported as well.
	But they committed a crime by coming here illegally, Victor.
	You're confusing me.
	If you come here without coming through the correct channels, you are a criminal, Victor.
	Absolutely.
	Good.
	All right.
	We've settled it.
	Thank you, my friend.
	Super easy.
	I'm glad when we get easy questions to answer.
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	And tonight we're getting some new details about that Trump Trudeau dinner from two people who were at the table.
	We are told that when Trudeau told President-elect Trump that new tariffs would kill the Canadian economy, Trump joked to him that if Canada can't survive without ripping off the U.S. to the tune of $100 billion a year, then maybe Canada should become the 51st state and Trudeau could become its governor.
	Brett.
	I'll have more on that detail.
	If it were any other quote-unquote journalist, I'm not sure I would have believed it, but Deucey's a good chap.
	He is Fox's White House correspondent.
	And that story just reminds me of what my radio colleague Chris Plant always says about Canada, America's largest national park or America's hat.
	Should it be the 51st state?
	I think our next guest will have something to say about that.
	He's the author of a superb work I cannot recommend to you more highly.
	It is The Political and Strategic History of the World, Volume 1. From antiquity to the Caesars 14, Anno Domini.
	Our good friend and our fan favourite, Lord Conrad Black.
	Welcome back to America First.
	Thanks very much, Sebastian.
	We have so much to discuss, especially in terms of presidential history with pardons left, right and center expected.
	But the prime minister's visit to Mar-a-Lago, especially the photography of the amazing, grinning prime minister seated next to the president-elect, was that a surprise to Canadians and to yourself, Lord Black?
	Not really.
	As a matter of fact, I was having dinner with the leader of the opposition when it happened and when we heard about it.
	And look, I thought it was, you know, the wise thing for him to do.
	And, you know, obviously, there is some concern here about tariffs with the U.S. And I think it was the kind of, you know, take charge, can do thing.
	You go to the source of the possible problem and try and deal with it.
	You know, Justin, although I like him personally, and I've known him since he was a boy, because I knew his father quite well, but he has few more consistent critics in this country than I am.
	But on that one, I thought it was the right thing to do.
	You know, you go and talk to the person and see if you can't get this sorted out.
	Let's switch in that case, if you're not surprised by the Prime Minister's visit, to Sunday's pardon.
	A refrain I keep hearing in the mainstream media is, well, every father would do this for their son.
	Let's pull back to a higher altitude in the histories being written of this presidency.
	How will this pardon be filed away on the spreadsheet of Joe Biden's incumbency?
	Well, look, I think the pardon itself is, you know, not so indefensible.
	I mean, no man wants his son to go to prison and he can stop it.
	On the other hand, it doesn't play well when you consider the pious claptrap that the Bidens, both the president and his wife, and their supporters have poured out over the years We're good to
	system.
	And so with that backdrop, him coming in at the last minute before sentencing to pardon his son over a 10-year period of unspecified potential crimes doesn't sound very flattering to the integrity and the much vaunted dedication to, you know,
	cleaner than the houndstooth government that the Bidens have professed to.
	And, you know, they got terribly sanctimonious.
	And, as you know, they impeached President Trump over a phone call he made to the president of Ukraine in which he simply asked, was there anything wrong with what the Bidens did there?
	He didn't try and direct the verdict.
	He didn't say, give me Biden's head and a plate.
	He said, what happened?
	And for that, he was impeached.
	And we now have a pretty good idea that what happened was a very unsavory business.
	It may or may not have been a crime, but it was a most unseemly activity.
	Well, let's have a little reminder of that sanctimonious preaching for the last few years is a little montage from the mainstream media regarding President Trump.
	The idea that no person is above the law is a bedrock principle of American justice.
	No man is above the law no matter what the crime.
	And I agree with you.
	No man is above the law.
	No person is above the law.
	No one is above the law.
	No one is above the law.
	No man is above the law.
	Nobody is above the law.
	No one is above the law.
	No man is above the law.
	He has to be held accountable.
	He's not above the law.
	No one's above the law.
	Either that nor any other...
	All right, enough, enough, enough.
	As the former helmsman of a media empire, the Hollinger Group, I don't know if I really care, but I should ask this question.
	Can the mainstream media...
	Ever recover from what they've done in the last eight years, given this sanctimonious behaviour?
	Yes.
	The word is ever.
	They can, but not soon.
	I mean, the enormity of their hypocrisy, their willful dishonesty in misportraying the Bidens as pillars of virtue and President Trump and...
	His close associates as essentially a gang of brigands and fascistic threats to democracy.
	They won't get over that soon, and they don't deserve to.
	The public will remember that for a long time.
	I mean, all the polls now indicate that the overwhelming majority of the public has no faith at all in the national political media.
	And they're right not to have any.
	It's been spandered.
	And, you know, this is a potentially dangerous situation.
	You can't have a democracy without a free press.
	And the free press is today something that Americans don't believe in.
	They think it is free in the sense that it has the right to say whatever the people with access to it want to say, but not in the sense that it is impartial or believable.
	And that makes the attachment to that institution It's tenuous, and that is a dangerous thing in a democracy.
	Look, I assume that cooler heads will now prevail, and there's some signs of it, and that the media will now diligently work to try and rebuild their credibility and re-earn the trust of the country.
	But they have a task to do, and they've created it for themselves.
	When it comes to the people for whom they have become a mouthpiece, and that is the Democrat Party and the left, in your latest piece for the New York Sun, your penultimate sentence lists, wokeism, DEI, and the Green Terror are dying at last.
	Are they really, Lord Black, because in the last 30 days since the election, I really haven't seen a self-appraisal from the Democrats where they say, OK, we were wrong.
	We're jettisoning this lunacy.
	Is it early days to say that with these core pillars of their ideology?
	Well, you see, they're the corpse, and the corpse doesn't pronounce its own obsequies.
	We go to a funeral and somebody says, this guy's dead, and they all remember him.
	The Democrats at this point appear—obviously, it's a vast number of people who qualify as Democrats, and some of them are more realistic about what's happened than others—but In general, they are contemplating the implications of the severe rebuke and defeat and humiliation that they've suffered.
	And we have to, I guess, allow them a little time to...
	You know, to recover any sense of objectivity.
	I mean, you know, if you blast an insect with an insecticide, a raid or something like that, it buzzes around more energetically than ever for about 15 seconds and then drops down dead.
	Well, we're in that phase, usually.
	They've been hammered and they're sort of Coming to grips with that fact.
	But whatever they do, the majority, everybody else, realizes that the Democrats have been rejected.
	And the three things that I just mentioned, and the thing you kindly read there, but, you know, DEI and wokeness and the Green Terror, they have been rejected by the majority of Americans.
	And that is a real turning of the corner.
	This isn't a pendulum that's been swinging back and forth.
	This has been a juggernaut squashing the opposition and swaddling itself in the pretension of being the force of history and the inevitable future and so forth.
	And it has just been rejected.
	And that's a sea change.
	That's an incoming tide now going out.
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	The Divine on, I asked her if she had a message.
	She says, she loves you and your writings.
	So that is direct from Miranda about an hour ago.
	Please tell her, not only do I love her and her writing and her comments when she's on television, but I formerly was the chief shareholder of the leading newspapers of Australia, and I absolutely love,
	not literally, of course, but I'm much attracted to She is an American by birth.
	She was born in the U.S. Really?
	But she's got an Australian accent.
	I think she was taken over there as a child.
	I made that mistake and I was chastised very rapidly that she is an American by birth with just an antipodean accent.
	She's dynamite.
	She's a terrific reporter.
	And I thought her book, you know, the...
	The laptop from hell.
	You know, the desktop.
	I mean, I thought that was very, very good.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	No, she's wonderful.
	Sebastian, tonight, what's a good time?
	8 o'clock?
	7 o'clock?
	Let me have a look at what's going on tonight.
	Are we in the same time zone?
	Are you in the eastern zone?
	Yes.
	I am open.
	Katie's got some stuff, but no, I'm open all night.
	I'll give you a call.
	It won't be accessible.
	Good.
	Look, what's going to happen after Inauguration Day?
	You can't continue with this, can you?
	No, no.
	One of my colleagues had the interesting idea that I first thought was crazy, but then afterwards I thought was very interesting, that I should at least host one hour out of the White House every week.
	I thought that could be fun with members of the Cabinet.
	That would be brilliant.
	I'm going to recommend that to the press secretary, to Caroline.
	But no, Salem right now has to find somebody to take over the microphone.
	Well, don't you find that each day it's another degree of things changing, just moving completely?
	It's not like, you know, George W. Bush giving way to Obama or Trump.
	Clinton giving way to George W. or something.
	I mean, this is a dramatic change.
	Dramatic.
	And also, if you look at the rate of acceleration, the fact that the cabinet was filled within just over three weeks after the election.
	So it's very, very different from how it was in 2016. A very crisp professional operation.
	I've been watching these post-election incoming administrations since Kennedy took the place of General Eisenhower.
	None of them has come in as quickly and smoothly as this.
	And I think it is not a slight to Biden, but a smart move by the president of France and by the president-elect that he's going to the opening of Notre Dame.
	Let's discuss that.
	Alex, I'm going to tee up the Jermaine audio from yesterday.
	- Sure man, copy. - The truck coming out, did you get the...
	No, I'll tee it up.
	I
	also think that no matter what you think of this pardon, the coverage of this is as if I mean, you look at what has happened on the Trump side, especially if you have parallel pardons that Trump has done himself.
	It's just always so...
	It seems so hysterically imbalanced.
	I just...
	You know, when you read how they're covering this, and then you look at the things that are happening on the other side, it is, again, completely...
	If there's anyone with a microphone in front of a camera who should not criticize others for their hysterical response to anything, I think that person is Mika Brzezinski, especially after we've been told for how long by the man himself that I will not pardon my son and I have no knowledge of his business dealings.
	Truly, truly shameful.
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	I hadn't planned on it, but what did the Marines say?
	Semper Gumby.
	Always stay flexible.
	And it is apposite that we discuss it with Lord Black.
	Lord Black, it is high time that Notre Dame be reopened after that disastrous fire.
	Talk to us about the decision of, sadly, not the Pope, but of President-elect Trump to go to Paris for that immensely significant rededication of that beautiful building.
	I think it's admirable of the president of France, Macron, to invite the president-elect.
	And I think it's a very intelligent and positive human gesture in this Christmas season for him to go.
	It's a sign of ecumenism.
	He is not himself a Roman Catholic.
	His wife is, but he is not.
	But it is one of the most famous and historic It's consecration was, I believe, a little more than 1,000 years ago.
	And, you know, the crown of thorns, the original crown of thorns and the crucifixion of Christ is one of the relics in that cathedral.
	And it is more than just a famous church in Paris.
	It is one of the great monuments of Judeo-Christian history in the world.
	And I think it's a very fine gesture for the president of France to invite him and for the president-elect of the United States to attend.
	Let's talk about one of the actions.
	I'm just looking up right now.
	My word.
	Founded 21st of March, 1163. That is the date.
	It's...
	You're close enough, Lord Black.
	Close enough.
	1163. Let's talk about President Trump as president-elect.
	We have his statement on the hostages.
	And I'd like us to draw a parallel to 1979 and the Iranian hostage siege.
	In his statement two days ago, he said, if the hostages are not released prior to the date of the inauguration...
	When he assumes the office of the President of the United States in capital letters, quote, there will be all hell to pay.
	Is it dangerous to draw parallels with 1979 and 1980, or do you think it is apposite?
	I think it's absolutely apposite and not dangerous at all.
	We don't know, but I think eventually we will know what it was that President-elect Reagan sent as a message to the Ayatollah Khomeini In 1980 or 81 saying, if those hostages are not released when I'm inaugurated, something quite similar to the wording there.
	And of course, as he took the oath, President Reagan, and then gave his address, there was a split screen, and you could see the hostages getting off a plane having been released.
	They went, I believe, to Paris, or to Algiers, rather, and then on.
	And I think it is exactly the right note to strike, and I put it together in my own thoughts with the president-elect's comments in the debate he had with President Biden, which led to President Biden's retirement, in which he said he would not tolerate Iran being a nuclear power.
	I think it is fairly clear that he's saying if those hostages aren't released, he's going to take military action against Iran.
	And I think he's right to do that.
	In your following of presidential politics and congressional politics, what is your prediction for the confirmation hearings, the likes of Hegseth and others?
	Do you think it's a lot of chest-thumping right now by the upper house and there'll be smooth sailing?
	Or are there those in the Senate who Haven't fully drawn the requisite consequences or conclusions since November the 5th?
	I think, in general, most of them will go through with a difficulty.
	Look, I'm assuming that these allegations about his private life are essentially a smear job, in which case I think he'll be confirmed.
	If there is some real problem about his suitability, To lead such a big department because of aspects of his private life, that would be, obviously, that would be a legitimate concern, but I don't see it at this point.
	They seem to have kind of cleaned up Bobby Kennedy.
	All of a sudden, complaints about him, and the guy just stopped, you know.
	You know, the one that strikes me as odd is the ambassador to Paris.
	I mean, I understand the president's sending his son-in-law's father, but Mr. Kushner has a pretty funny background.
	He says, odd choice is to hold an embassy formerly occupied by Thomas Jefferson and James Monroe and David Bruce and a lot of other eminent people.
	But look, on anything I can see...
	I would have thought they'd all go through, including this man at the FBI. Oh, Kash Patel, absolutely.
	Full disclosure, a dear, dear friend of mine.
	He is the right man for the job.
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	All right.
	Splendid.
	Good, good.
	I have never heard her or read her that I didn't agree with every word of it.
	Also, she has a terribly nice manner, I think.
	Just a charming person from her public appearance.
	Absolutely.
	Lovely lady.
	All right.
	Talk later tonight.
	God bless.
	Thanks.
	Bye-bye. Bye-bye.
	Bye-bye.
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	Have you ever had any interaction with the Mooch, with Scaramucci?
	Have you ever met him, Mr. G? No, unfortunately.
	No.
	A little bit of hesitation there.
	Until recently, in the media, he was always kind of this super...
	He was like the energizer bunny.
	He was always hopped up and super high energy, wasn't he?
	Yes, he was.
	But you've prepared this clip for me, and it's like something's happened to the mooch.
	This is a man who lasted a whole 10 days in the first Trump administration talking about my friend Kash Patel, the superb choice to head that disgraced entity that is the FBI, and to clean it up.
	Cut 11, the moochster!
	These are for the base.
	By the way, if they don't get through, I've got Pam Bondi right behind him five minutes later.
	And I think it's the same thing with Kash Patel.
	I don't think the expectation is that he's going to get through because just look at the obvious stuff.
	You just have to watch two interviews.
	Don't watch the snippets.
	Watch two interviews of Kash Patel with Steve Bannon.
	Watch the whole thing.
	And if you're a United States senator and you're a respectable Republican senator, watch the whole thing and then ask yourself, if you really love your country, do you want Kash Patel to be the FBI director?
	I don't get it, Jeff.
	He's just really low-T now.
	What happened to the Mooch's energy?
	I know he's much more like Jeb Bush now.
	I know.
	What do you think happened?
	I guess it was a month ago today.
	A month ago tomorrow.
	30 days today.
	Yeah.
	I think it was the Trump win that got to him.
	I think I might still have his cell phone.
	Shouldn't we get him on the show?
	Yeah.
	We'd have to call him out of the blue, though, not book him.
	You think he'd be afraid?
	He will never come on.
	No?
	No.
	Come on!
	He's a tough Italian guy, isn't he?
	All four for three of him.
	Yeah, I know.
	Not anymore, it doesn't seem like.
	He's lost it.
	I know.
	Did you see the email I sent to Chris Cuomo's booker?
	I did see that.
	Did they respond to you?
	No.
	No.
	Isn't it funny that Chris Cuomo wants me on his show?
	I'm not surprised now.
	Now he's trying to act like he's in the middle now.
	You've noticed that, right?
	Yeah, but did you watch the clip I sent you of Joe Rogan trashing his fake TV show?
	I did not because it's still converting.
	You've got to play.
	It's hilarious.
	Joe Rogan goes, what is this News Nation thing?
	It's like some high school outfit with bad lighting, bad camera work.
	All right, we'll save that tomorrow.
	We've got lots of calls coming in.
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	Let's go to Joe in Illinois, line one.
	Dr. J., While Trump has every reason to go after the people that tried to crucify him, I think it's appropriate for him to go to Notre Dame.
	And I would love to see Melania go with him.
	He's probably going to go.
	What's the point you'd like to make?
	That...
	I think Trump is just going to move on.
	Move on from what?
	From having his home raided by armed agents of the FBI and facing 700 years in prison?
	Could you move on from that, Joe?
	Are you such a big guy?
	It's a hard thing to do.
	Why should he?
	It was wrong.
	It was wrong, 100%.
	So why should he, quote unquote, move on?
	So they can do it to the next Republican president?
	No, so we can get our country moving forward.
	We can't move forward if we have injustice.
	I agree.
	Are you a rhino?
	Hell no.
	So why would you say we ignore outrageous injustice?
	It was outrageous injustice.
	So why should we move on?
	Well, because the country needs healing.
	It can't heal unless justice is done.
	Well, then let's run him through the ringer.
	He's just going to pardon everybody anyways, and you know that.
	He's not going to pardon the people who did crimes, who used the FBI and the CIA and the intelligence community to persecute innocent Americans, to surveil Catholics.
	What are you talking about, Joe?
	Get a grip, man.
	Get some perspective.
	We can't heal unless we fix things and we put that blindfold back on Lady Justice.
	We will not have faith in this republic unless justice is done and is seen to be done as well.
	Thank you.
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	Don't stop at Hunter Biden.
	Thank you.
	Pardon the 40 people who are on death row right now to get them off of death row, number one.
	Number two, pardon the 3,000 people who are in federal jail for trumped-up marijuana charges.
	Pardon them as well so they can get back to their communities and contribute to their economies.
	Who is that legal genius, Jeff, who thinks that people who are on death row in state charges can be pardoned by a federal president?
	He's a former member of Congress that almost needed a pardon himself.
	Oh my gosh, I forgot he lost, didn't he?
	Jamal Bowman lost.
	Technically, I think he still is a member of Congress.
	That's Fire Alarm Bowman, right?
	Yeah.
	Does he not know that presidents can only pardon people for federal crimes?
	Of course he doesn't.
	Did you hear his speech, remember, that weekend that he lost when he was going nuts?
	Yeah, that was the guy who had AOC jumping around on the stage, right?
	Yeah, and I had to edit about five times.
	I had to bleep out something he said in 26 seconds.
	Where do they find these absolute giants?
	Okay, we're going to go to your course.
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	Todd in Atlanta, welcome to America First.
	Yes, Dr. Gorka, MAGA Invictus.
	I'm so happy that you and Kash Patel are joining his team.
	Gideon had his 300 and Leonidas had his 300 and I'm glad that President Trump has such a strong team with him.
	My question is regarding Red China.
	They've bought millions of acres of land, secret police stations, secret bioweapons labs, elite capture from President Biden to Swalwell.
	So what's your question?
	We've got lots of callers.
	What's your question, Todd?
	What approach will you take in dealing with red China, given so much infiltration, not to mention TikTok, into our country?
	Well, exactly what we did in the first Trump administration.
	It's just going to be that on steroids.
	I mean, this is the thing that people seem to be missing.
	Whether it's NATO, whether it's China, whether it's the threat of terrorism, it's going to be the Mark I updated for the increasingly worse threat environment.
	So this is, you know, for me, fascinating because I arrived in the first Trump administration with a background in counterterrorism, and I'm I'm very grateful for the position that's been offered to me to run counter-terrorism in the National Security Council for National Security Advisor Mike Walton for the President.
	But once I arrived and I got my clearances and read the President's daily briefing, I realized that China is the number one peer threat.
	We will deal with the terrorist threat as we did with ISIS and Al Qaeda.
	But the number one strategic threat is China externally, militarily, financially, on the intelligence domain.
	Maine, and as you pointed out, Todd, very accurately, domestically as well.
	What they have done through the Confucius Institutes, the buying, the cajoling of assets.
	I mean, the fact that Eric Swalwell to this day cannot say the following sentence, I did not have sex with a Chinese intelligence officer, tells you how serious the question is.
	But what will we do?
	More of the same, just like we did in the first Trump administration.
	I need to revisit with regards to the pardon that was issued at the weekend, the whole Hunter Laptop Biden story and that disgraceful performance by Leslie Studge.
	Do you remember?
	I'm so glad that President Trump's team recorded all of it.
	Here's a reminder of just how utterly bankrupt and morally corrupt the mainstream lying media is, including Leslie Stahl.
	Cut 15. This story about Hunter and his laptop.
	Some repair shop found it.
	The source is Steve Bannon and Rudy Giuliani.
	I don't know anything about that.
	I just know it's a laptop and they haven't.
	And you're making this It's a very important issue to find out whether or not a man's corrupt who's running for president, who's accepted money from China and from Ukraine and from Russia.
	Yeah, I think that's an important issue.
	It's incredible the way you can try and say this and sit there and look me in the eye and say it.
	He accepted money, his family, from Russia, from Ukraine, from China, and from other places.
	His brother, who didn't have experience, became a big builder in Iraq without experience.
	Take a look at what's going on, Leslie, and then you say that shouldn't be discussed.
	I'm saying...
	It's the biggest scandal out there, Leslie, and you don't cover it.
	Because it can't be verified.
	You want to talk about insignificant things.
	I'm telling you.
	Of course it can be verified.
	Excuse me, they found the laptop.
	Leslie, Leslie.
	It can't be verified.
	What can't be verified?
	The laptop.
	What you said?
	Jeff, has she since that time ever apologized for just that propaganda that spewed out of her mouth?
	No, and don't you remember when he didn't do 60 Minutes this time?
	He said he would do it if they issued an apology.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, right.
	And he didn't do it?
	Which worked out perfect for them, because Kamala was the whole show, and she was a train wreck in it.
	You mean the whole show where 24 minutes disappeared and wasn't aired?
	Yeah, and they changed the answer around.
	Remember, it was to a different question.
	Oh yeah, they edited it around.
	Unbelievable.
	I think we've got another clip of that, but we're up against the clock.
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	Oh, it was Gates. it was Gates.
	That's who she had to apologize for last time.
	Jeff.
	That's right, yeah.
	It was Gates.
	Gates.
	I'm going to tee up 12 and then go to Ed.
	Copy that.
	Cut 12. Here's
	looking at you, Snowflake.
	America first.
	Hey Jeff, January 1st, it'll be six years we've been doing this together, right?
	Yes.
	How many legally drafted apologies have I had to read on air in six years?
	That would be zero.
	And the viewers had to do two in how many days?
	I think five.
	Because the first one was Matt Gaetz, where Sonny Hostin had to apologize in camera.
	And now they had to do it again, correct?
	Yeah, they're going to get to be where it's a daily thing.
	They might just get it sponsored.
	They'll have it brought to you by someone.
	By some lawyer, right?
	Yeah, with a live read.
	If you've had to do two in a week, you should probably just nix the show, shouldn't you?
	Well, I think that might be what they're doing.
	All right, this is hilarious.
	Sunny hosting, having to read a message written by the legal department of The View, because they're in trouble again.
	Cut 12. I see you.
	I see you over there.
	I have a very quick statement.
	It's not going to be that quick.
	Pete Hedgeseth has denied any wrongdoing.
	His lawyer said he paid the woman in 2023 to head off the threat of a baseless lawsuit.
	No charges were ever brought.
	You rushed me for that?
	laughter Thank you.
	Whoopi didn't look too happy, Jeff, did she?
	No, and they actually haven't even gotten to when they're doing the actual hearings, when they really get heated.
	They're going to have to do that every day then.
	I just can't wait.
	It's just too delicious to watch.
	Ed, Pennsylvania, line one.
	Hi, Dr. Gorka.
	I heard they actually had to do four of them in one show.
	What?
	All right, we're going to have to look into that, but that's not why you called.
	What's your question?
	What's your comment, Ed?
	I value your opinion.
	You seem to be a great student of history.
	They're saying that Nixon got pardoned in a similar way with this broad pardon that Biden just did for his son.
	Do you think, I don't know the details of the Nixon one, but how valid do you think that would be if the new Justice Department were to challenge that to the Supreme Court?
	The pardon rights of a president are pretty, pretty massive when it comes to anything that is a federal crime.
	And who would bring that challenge?
	I'm not so sure that would stand up in the Supreme Court.
	It was a broad pardon in the case of President Trump when he left office, but nowhere near to what we saw with Hunter Biden.
	I mean, to go back...
	Almost 11 years?
	Absolute insanity.
	So I don't think the analogy holds.
	Okay, breaking news.
	President Trump has filed a motion to dismiss the New York criminal case.
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	Welcome back to One on One.
	Sebastian Gorka, I have not seen you or spoken with you.
	I sent you a text message, but now that I can see you, sort of, we're separated by a screen.
	But I have to congratulate you.
	It's such great news that you're going back.
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	And I mean, Americans are thrilled.
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	Thank you, Ali.
	You have been a champion For telling the truth about the assault against President Trump, those who worked for him, and just patriots, you know, any of the 76 million who voted for him, who were persecuted by the Department of Justice, by the FBI. Let's start with the news of last Monday afternoon.
	Just stunning.
	I don't know.
	You can tell us how you feel.
	The man who was put in place illegally as a special prosecutor at the DOJ, who'd never served in the Department of Justice when he was named.
	He was at the International Criminal Court of The Hague.
	Your reaction to Jack Smith dropping all charges against President Trump with regards to January the 6th.
	How significant is this, Lee?
	Well, I mean, you know, the...
	The Joe Biden administration put this country through a lot of pain.
	And of course, Jack Smith was an instrument.
	And I reported on this quite a while ago.
	I did an interview with Ambassador Rick Ronell, who's a great guy, and he's been following the Jack Smith story for a long time, starting at The Hague.
	So, you know, Jack Smith is not a good guy.
	He was a political instrument.
	But I mean, the fault I don't like seeing the stuff on social media pretending that, well, now that it's all over, let bygones be bygones, and Joe Biden was actually a good guy.
	I mean, I like the fact that President Trump, President-elect Trump, His meetings have gone smoothly, and he's not saying anything bad.
	And that's the way a president is supposed to act.
	So I'm very happy that our president, Donald Trump, president-elect, is acting like that.
	But again, for other people to sort of pretend that there's actual comity and friendship here after what the Biden administration It's put not just Donald Trump through, but it's put the entire country through, whether they voted for Donald Trump or not.
	It's very painful to watch our rule of law undermined and for the first time to see an administration target a political opponent, the leader of the opposition and the former president when this started.
	So it's terrible.
	It's a terrible It's a terrible part of our history.
	And of course, I'm relieved that Smith finally dropped these charges.
	But again, it's still a remarkably dark moment for our country.
	Well, let's stop on this for a second, this concept of, you know, let bygones be bygones and the current incumbent really wasn't responsible.
	Do you have any expectations?
	So, look, the double mandate is just stunning.
	That after now, what, we're talking about nine years of my former boss being called...
	Not just an Islamophobe, a bigot, but a white supremacist, a Nazi, and a wannabe dictator.
	And an asset of Vladimir Putin.
	Oh, and an asset of Vladimir Putin and all that Russia collusion.
	But let me just put it in this context.
	That four years ago, he set the historic record for the number of votes an incumbent has ever won.
	So more votes than any other incumbent president, 74 million.
	And just less than a month ago, what happened?
	He broke that incumbent record.
	Of course, they're still counting votes in California and elsewhere.
	But he exceeded that by another two million at least to 76 million Americans, which means not just the Electoral College, but the popular vote as well.
	This idea that he has that mandate will not stop the left.
	Jack Smith may have given up.
	But we have, you know, Albin Bragg's prosecution hanging like a sword of Damocles over the president in New York.
	Do you have any expectation that if the president, if the conservative movement plays nice with those who are in power now, that, for example, four years from now, they'll be nice to President Trump after he leaves the White House after his second term leave?
	Well, I'm extremely concerned about the different things that are going to be happening in the coming weeks before the inauguration and after the inauguration as well.
	As I report in disappearing the president, there's all sorts of scenarios that the left has wargamed, which speak to massive amounts of violence in American cities and even suggest a split in the armed forces.
	So, no, I mean, they're being quiet.
	We can say they're being quiet right now, and it looks quiet.
	But let's also look at what happened with Matt Gaetz, Donald Trump's first choice for attorney general.
	I mean, you know, there were likely to be problems with the confirmation process.
	But also, I mean, they've already gotten a Trump appointee.
	And this didn't happen in the first administration until they pulled down General Flynn.
	And, you know, then they started going after everyone.
	They went after you, of course.
	They went after everyone.
	So I think that it's not as quiet as it may look right now.
	So again, I think it's important not to scare people.
	We should be celebrating.
	We should be enjoying this.
	But also, I think that we should keep focused on what is likely to happen in the coming weeks, coming months, and absolutely over the next four years.
	So again, I'm happy to see Donald Trump show real leadership by saying, look, I'm not—and he shouldn't.
	It's not about retribution.
	What it's about is about resetting our constitutional republic, and a lot of that work has to come out of the Department of Justice.
	So that's really where I want the focus.
	I definitely want Donald Trump to speak about unifying our people, unifying our great country.
	But at the same time, that administration you're going to be a part of has to work very hard.
	Again, not about retribution.
	But about restoring rule of law.
	And holding people accountable for what they've done over the last eight years, as well as there's another thing that has to be done, too.
	Implementing the agenda for this term, which is largely about the deportation program, one, and to ensure election integrity.
	So that's a lot of work that the Department of Justice has to do.
	And it's very important that none of this is couched as retribution or revenge.
	But again, it's understood as...
	Restoring our republic, which is how most of us understand it.
	Does the popular vote, because for the time being, there's lots of talk and Mark Elias and everybody else and getting ready to storm the battlements on behalf of social justice on January the 20th.
	In your estimation, because you know these people, you've written multiple books about them, does the popular vote mandate for President Trump take a little bit of the wind out of the sails, out of the lunatic left?
	No.
	I mean, it might under normal circumstances.
	But, Seb, you're talking about the vote.
	You're talking about the vote tally not only from this time but from 2020 and what it looks like from a certain perspective.
	And I might even hold this perspective.
	It looks like Donald Trump has won three different elections in a row.
	That's what it looks like.
	So, no, look, I mean, these people are fanatics.
	They're pathological.
	So the idea that Donald Trump has now won the popular vote as well, no, it's not going to stop them at all.
	Because they— They don't believe in elections, actually.
	They believe in taking power, securing power for themselves.
	And that's, of course, what the Open Borders campaign is about.
	That's why they've opened the borders.
	Because a lot of Americans do not like their insane policies.
	So they need, actually, a new electorate.
	That's why this is so crucial and why it's so important.
	That Donald Trump repair this, not only, again, fortify our borders, but also restore integrity to elections.
	And they're going to fight very, very hard and nothing will stop them.
	If you're a left winger and you love abortions and you don't have babies, then yeah, you're going to have to import an election.
	Exactly.
	That's why they did it.
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	We see something that said, take a look at what happened.
	Who normalized violence and who made Butler possible, the first and the second attempt on President Trump's life.
	We will dissect momentarily.
	Lee, I have a real...
	I don't like hyperbole, and I like to do threat assessments that are fact-based.
	And I just think we're missing so much of us who believe in America, believe in prosperity and security.
	We're kind of forgetting what happened this summer and The enormity of a Democrat donor trying to murder President Trump in Butler, shooting him in the head, and then somebody else trying it at his golf course in Florida as he's there in the open.
	You have documented all of this in your latest book, Disappearing the President.
	Can we just stop for a few minutes and talk about The incredible damage the left has done by normalizing the talk of Nazi, fascist, Hitler, Mussolini, and the fact that it's probably going to take more than just four years to bring these lunatics back from the brink or to make them irrelevant.
	I mean, the American people deserve a break, right?
	I mean, if you look at what we've been through over nearly a decade, And, you know, I mean, again, the election of Donald Trump, it's a great thing.
	But again, we're talking about there's still going to be a lot of stuff going on.
	They're going to continue to go after him.
	They're going to continue to go after the whole administration.
	And the American people as a whole are going to pay for, you know, for these people's psychopathy.
	But yeah, that's exactly how it started.
	This violence started, the way that I report it, the way that I explain it, it started with Russiagate.
	We've mentioned this before when you're talking about, well, you know, they've called him Hitler, a fascist, a dictator, all these different things.
	But again, it really starts with identifying Donald Trump, saying that Donald Trump was an asset of Vladimir Putin's.
	And it wasn't just an insane conspiracy theory.
	What it was, it was designed to divide the American population.
	The American people, because the people who voted for this so-called Russian asset were at best unwilling dupes or unwitting dupes, and at worst they were collaborators in a scheme To sell out America.
	And so that's how they split the country.
	And that's really when the political violence started, because it was designed to divide our country.
	And how do we fix that?
	How do we repair that?
	Part of it's going to be time.
	Part of it's going to be holding people accountable.
	And part of it will be, again, Donald Trump just trying to unify the country, saying, look, don't we all Don't we all want the same things for our families?
	Don't we all want the same thing out of work?
	We want dignity.
	That was such a great thing about You know, dressing as a garbage man and a guy at McDonald's reminding Americans of the dignity of work, right?
	As opposed to this whole thing, well, there are jobs that Americans won't do.
	Yeah, they won't do them at slave wages.
	But Americans respect work and the dignity of work, how important all of this is.
	So, you know, there's a lot to be done.
	But right now, America still...
	Still, I think, in a very both fragile and volatile place because of how they have targeted Donald Trump.
	But it's not just Donald Trump.
	It's also been his aides, like you, like General Flynn, like Roger Stone, as well as his supporters.
	And we look at January 6th.
	And we look at the Jack Smith cases.
	We look at the cases in Georgia, especially, that went after all these Donald Trump aides.
	So the country definitely needs a break.
	And we want to return to being a normal country.
	And the best way to start, probably, is just by closing our borders like normal countries.
	And we'll be like a normal democracy once again by having regular, transparent elections.
	And the vote count won't go on for weeks and weeks after Election Day.
	Yeah, yeah.
	The fact...
	I don't know why I'm laughing, but the fact, Lee, that for years, they literally called him a Nazi, a Hitler, a Mussolini, and then the same people go to Mar-a-Lago.
	I'm thinking of Joe Scarborough, Mika Brzezinski.
	Yeah.
	They go to Mar-a-Lago to grovel at the president-elect's feet.
	And then you've got Joe Biden receiving him in the Oval Office, the guy who called him a wannabe dictator, a threat to America.
	Does any of that have an effect on the credibility of the Democrats in the mainstream media, Lee?
	I mean, they're garbage people.
	But to use that You know, to use that language to begin with.
	And no one will forget the imagery of Joe, the imagery or the language that Joe Biden employed during that speech in Philadelphia two years ago with, you know, the horrible red background.
	But, you know, screaming at Americans, accusing them of being domestic terrorists, all his political opponents.
	So, you know, again, the rhetoric, the rhetoric that was used.
	I mean, the Biden administration, the American media never spoke this way about American adversaries.
	They never spoke this way about the Islamic Republic of Iran or Hamas or Hezbollah, right, or the People's Republic of China.
	They're always coming up with excuses, always rationalizing these miserable things that these actual American enemies do.
	But the way that they've turned this language, you know, against Donald Trump and Donald Trump supporters and the fact that they're groveling, well, Well, no, it doesn't surprise us because we understand what they did.
	If these people have no they have no core values, they have no soul.
	And they were doing it.
	They were they were calling Trump, Hitler or Putin to either solidify support like like like Hillary Clinton, then like Joe Biden and Barack Obama or to drive ratings like Joe and Joe and Mika.
	But it's not just Joe and Mika.
	It's the entire platform of the mainstream American media at this point.
	We'll talk about what happens to that media now that America has spoken.
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	You know, the true test of someone's character is how they behave under fire.
	And we had one president who couldn't climb a flight of stairs and another who was fist pumping after getting shot.
	Fight!
	Blood coming down the face.
	Now, America is the home of the brave.
	And there's no truer test than courage under fire.
	So, who do you want representing America?
	Yeah.
	Absolutely.
	I was there when he made that speech, jumping around the stage at Butler, Pennsylvania, after the president went back to the scene of the crime where he was almost killed.
	God bless Elon Musk.
	What is his impact on the media?
	We'll talk about that in a second.
	And then we've got to talk about this man's expertise in the Middle East and one of his earlier works.
	So...
	We always write so much to discuss with you.
	We'll talk about your new book in a second.
	But, well, it's part of the book as well, because disappearing the president wasn't just about trying to kill him.
	It was also about disappearing him from media and social media.
	Give us your take, Lee.
	On the significance of Elon Musk and whether we would be where we are today with the president-elect we have if he hadn't bought Twitter.
	Yeah, well, I was looking at that.
	I was looking at that clip you had and I was struck.
	Here's the world's richest person.
	And obviously, he's a very public guy.
	He speaks, you know, he's interviewed all the time.
	He speaks all the time.
	But he's also there's something there's something awkward about him in public.
	And I know there was a very big audience.
	But, you know, I mean, Seb, you get up in front of an audience that size and you sound like, you know, you're a You're going to recite a soliloquy from Richard III or something like that.
	I've had a bit of practice, a little bit more practice than Elon, but he just comes across as passionate and earnest.
	No, but it's kind of sweet.
	You're saying, here's this guy who's sort of out of a futuristic novel or something like that.
	And he's very sincere and honest and a little awkward.
	It's sweet.
	Especially for the world's richest man.
	Yeah, I think that the effect...
	Well, you know, Truth Social is in the subtitle there of Disappearing the President.
	So I think both...
	Look, the way that we think about it, including, of course, Seb Rumble, it's kind of that these guys are really Chris Pawlowski and Elon Musk and Devin Nunes and Donald Trump.
	I describe Donald Trump in disappearing the president as really the world's leading dissident and the leader of the free speech movement, which is absolutely true.
	So I think that Elon Musk and Donald Trump have made a very good team in that way, really fighting for free speech.
	And that media, I don't know if this is going to have any effect on the mainstream media at all.
	I mean, they despise Elon Musk.
	They despise Donald Trump.
	They're hemorrhaging people and they're having to fire people left and right and maybe he'll buy MSNBC. But in the last three, four weeks, the legacy medially, none of them have drawn the requisite conclusions for why 76 million Americans voted for President Trump.
	They can't.
	Because that goes to the very core of what they stand for.
	I imagine what they'll do is, I imagine that they'll, look, really the only hope that places like the Washington Post had is for Donald Trump's re-election.
	And then they can go after him again, the way that they did.
	I mean, the numbers were extremely good between the years 2016 and 2020. And then the Post, the Times, all of these places have suffered dramatically.
	And of course, none of it's real news coverage.
	It's all hysteria.
	It's all fake.
	It's all fraudulent.
	So I assume that they see this as an opportunity that they'll try to return to that again.
	It would be terrific if otherwise they were just to give, you know, I mean, critical, you know, that we don't expect the liberal press to be praising Donald Trump all the time or maybe never.
	But at least realistic, at least really covering what's happening, covering what he's saying.
	And I'm afraid, Seb, that this is the way I described it during the early days of Russiagate.
	I said, this is an extinction level event.
	And I think that the mainstream media cannot recover from this.
	And I think that one of the things we're seeing now is five, six years later, I think that's true.
	All right, let me ask you what that looks like.
	Hold Fire, the extinction of the legacy media, what that looks like based upon his latest book, Disappearing the President.
	Get it right now, Lee Smith, Disappearing the President.
	I knew this would happen.
	We're already running out of time.
	In the last two segments we have with you, we'll talk about your prior expertise in the Middle East.
	But first, your latest book, Disappearing the President.
	I'd like to have a media that does its job, and in fact I'd like to have a Democrat Party that loves America as much as we love America.
	I don't see any signs of that politically, but when it comes to market forces, if they're hemorrhaging and firing people at CNN, at the Washington Post, Sooner or later, unless they're pet projects for, you know, vanity projects for the likes of Bezos and Zuckerberg, doesn't the for-profit media start to have to tell the truth, or am I living in a fantasy, Landly?
	I think we might be too far along.
	I think about, Seb, you and I are, alas, old enough to remember Michael Dukakis' catastrophic run for president in 1988. And the Democratic Party went back to the drawing board, as they put it.
	They came back with a Democratic Leadership Council or committee, the DLC, which produced Bill Clinton.
	And so we've heard many people talk about, well, what's going to happen after the disastrous blowout of Harris and Waltz?
	Will the Democrats have to go back to the drawing board?
	And it seems like some of them would like to, but it may be too late because it's baked into the educational system.
	So we may be talking about a generation or more before they can become normal again, if they want to.
	And I think that that's reflected in the media, that the lunacy that's promoted in colleges, the lunacy that's I mean, again, the success of Americans, of many Americans, millions of Americans, depends on professionals, depends on whether or not they are able to mouth people.
	These, not platitudes, these insane lies, right?
	Whether it's about the trans agenda, whether it's about climate, whatever it's about, they have to keep saying this stuff or else they're not going to get promoted through these systems.
	Now, maybe that will change in time, but no time soon.
	So normal Americans are turning away from this stuff.
	They finally realized it's nonsense.
	Twitter helped a lot of reality breakthroughs, so people saw it.
	And there's other places where reality is broken through, too.
	I mean, people saw it the last several years, whether it's at the gas pump or the grocery store, or just seeing the insane things they had to go through with their life.
	And like, look, maybe Donald Trump is all these evil things you say, but this is insane what you're making us live through.
	So, yeah, I don't see much of a future right now for the mainstream press.
	Let's switch very quickly to the way we got to know each other was your immense expertise in the Middle East and your first book, which was The Strong Horse, Power Politics and the Clash of Arab Civilizations.
	From your perspective, knowing the region, can you talk to us about the last four years and what you would expect and like to see from President Trump in the next four years, from Mike Waltz, his Nashville advisor?
	We have a lot of work to do in that region, don't we?
	I think so.
	And unfortunately, I think the Biden administration is leaving you guys some very big problems, just as the way the Obama administration did in 2016, 2017, on their way out, the amount of trouble that they caused.
	They caused, especially for Israel at the UN, and General Michael Flynn was trying to repair some of this.
	And of course, that's when they look to frame him.
	But they're doing the same sort of thing now.
	I mean, I think that the Biden team is going to look to jam up Israel at the UN. And the Biden administration did not treat Israel like an ally.
	And the Middle East.
	And of course, when we talk about Israel being an American ally right now, we have to be careful because for the Obama faction, it's not an ally at all.
	But for the Republicans, in particular Donald Trump, Israel is a very important Middle Eastern ally.
	And I imagine that you guys are going to be looking at that a lot because Iran is a big issue.
	If you look at the different things that have been going on the last several years, first of all, since October 8th, 2023, Israel has been at war with Iran and its proxies, especially Hamas, but also Hezbollah and the Iranians themselves.
	And there are the Houthis in the Red Sea that have shut down Red Sea shipping lanes.
	So that's a very, very big issue.
	But what about the other things that have happened?
	There are two other enormous issues.
	One is that the Iranians have been trying to kill Donald Trump You know, since the targeted assassination of Qasem Soleimani, who is Iran's terror master.
	And Donald Trump, I mean, I think that targeting Qasem Soleimani is maybe the greatest American operation in the Middle East, certainly since pushing Saddam Hussein out of Kuwait, but maybe since the fledgling U.S. Navy vanquished the Barbary pirates.
	So it was a very big deal.
	And the Iranians have been targeting Donald Trump.
	And then there's something else as well, which I think is very important to keep in mind, as The administration you'll be working for moves forward, and that is there was a spy ring that infiltrated the national security apparatus of the United States, especially at the Pentagon and the State Department.
	And this is a very big deal.
	I think that one of the things that you guys will be looking at, I imagine, like what programs have been compromised by the people who were part of an Iranian influence operation and then pushed into the Pentagon and the State Department by former Iran envoy Rob Malley.
	So Iran is going to be a very big deal for you guys.
	I think all of the Middle East will be a very important thing.
	And Americans You know, Americans have confidence not only in Donald Trump, but I think that how he talks about conflict, how he talks about the Middle East, and I know that you have a tremendous amount of experience.
	You know what you're looking at, and you know how to fix it.
	Well, there's much work to be done, but at least our enemies are worried and our friends, like Israel, well, we will be treating them like friends again.
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	Everybody needs to read the book Disappearing the President by Lee Smith.
	Let's have a teaser for those out there who aren't familiar with the plot against the president, the permanent coup, and your latest work.
	What perhaps, pick us one of the many shocking things that will truly horrify readers of your latest work.
	How bad is the corruption in this stinking cesspit we call Washington, D.C., Lee Smith?
	Well, one of the things that I do in this book, which I think is very important, is a suspicion that many of us have had for a while, but I really, through a lot of research and through a lot of interviews, I really identify.
	I'll put it like this.
	I thought it's a problem when we keep talking about the deep state alone as an abstract entity.
	And as it turns out, there's a leadership.
	The actual plot against Trump that's been going on now for eight years, I mean, there are people who are driving this, right?
	People with real names and real power.
	And at the top of this network, I identify Donald Trump's predecessor, Barack Obama.
	And Seba, I mean, for all that, all of us have talked about Obama's role.
	Again, what really shocked me was going in and finding the details.
	I mean, everything, the censorship campaign, the domestic spying campaign, election interference, all of this stuff.
	You find Barack Obama at the origin.
	And as I try to remind people, it's just the fact that the press has acclimated us to all these bizarre things about Barack Obama, not least of which is the fact that He's the only president who has stayed in Washington, D.C. since Woodrow Wilson, right, 100 years ago.
	And Wilson couldn't leave.
	He had a stroke, right?
	He was debilitated midway through his second term.
	The reason that presidents leave, of course, is because they don't dare leave any impression that they are somehow involved in the political system anymore.
	It's to underscore one of the fundamental principles of our country, and that is the transfer of executive authority from one president to another.
	And Barack Obama has underscored the fact that he is still involved in politics.
	Remember, Seb, right after the day after the election, Shortly after Harris's concession speech, Obama himself released what was effectively a concession speech.
	No other president has ever done that.
	It's just nuts.
	So I think it's very important.
	I think it's very important to uproot Obama's influence throughout Washington, D.C. and institutions.
	And frankly, I think it's also very important as a matter of symbolism that in one way or another, Barack Obama leave Washington, D.C., I just think that for Americans to say, again, restoring our normalcy, I think that's very important.
	His actual influence and also just to underscore, again, our return to normalcy.
	He's got to go.
	All roads lead back to Barack Obama.
	Get all the details in disappearing the president from our friend Lee Smith and his prior essential work on the deep state, the plot against the president and the permanent coup.
	You've been listening to America First one-on-one with me, your host, Sebastian Gorka.

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