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Nov. 27, 2024 - Sebastian Gorka

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	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	This is America First, and I'm delighted to welcome our special guest host, Jim Hansen. .
	Well, I'm delighted to be sitting in Seb's chair.
	I got an update from him last night, late.
	He was just finishing up some of his counter-terrorism kung fu training.
	They've moved to the Andes Mountains.
	They were scaling K2. He was literally climbing the side of a sheer cliff, stealing eggs from condor nests to prepare himself for destroying our enemies.
	But look, aside from what Seb's doing, I think some great things are happening in America.
	We've got a big holiday coming up, one that my family has always loved, and I think everybody does.
	It's just a chance to take a moment in the midst of all the insanity, all the craziness, and be thankful for what we have.
	And I want to thank God and everything else that brought me to be born, grow up, live, and love the United States of America.
	I love when people want to talk about these garbage privilege, white male privilege, whatever.
	Shut up.
	I am privileged, though.
	To have been born and live here and have the blessings of liberty that all the people who fought and died for and the brave folks who crossed the ocean to leave, you know, Brit Land and all that kind of stuff have given all of us.
	It is the biggest advantage any person can have on this planet is to be born an American.
	And I think that's worth taking a moment to think about.
	You know, I have all the usual blessings.
	My family is great.
	I'm married.
	My wife and I are healthy.
	My parents are both alive and healthy.
	My family is mostly well and healthy.
	You know, all is well.
	We're prosperous.
	We're safe.
	We're secure.
	We're happy.
	And it's getting better.
	I mentioned yesterday on the show, I wake up and giggle every morning.
	I get out of bed not because, you know, oh, I'm scared and I have to go to work and I have to earn some money to do this.
	I do.
	But what I'm happy about is I feel a rebirth happening.
	I feel a rebuilding of our republic.
	And I am thankful that the American people, enough of them, came to their senses And on November 5th decided that we were not going to take the path of Marxist socialist garbage crap hole and we were going to go back to rebuild a republic that deserves it and to make America great again.
	I think that is, more than anything else, it emphasizes the fact that when this country was founded, it was designed in a way that allows us to fix mistakes.
	And we've made some.
	In my lifetime, we've had some tremendous...
	I'm old enough to have lived under Jimmy Carter.
	And malaise and 18% interest rates and the OPEC gas crisis with lines for gasoline around the corner, you know, around the streets long.
	All of that was horrible.
	Everybody thought we were done.
	They thought America was over.
	And what did that bring us?
	Ronald Reagan in mourning in America.
	So now we're in a situation where we had Barack Obama trying to fundamentally transform this country into a quasi-Marxist state.
	And he was pretty successful, unfortunately.
	But he brought us Donald Trump.
	And I think more than him, Hillary Clinton helped a little.
	I mean, I think we needed Donald Trump to beat Hillary Clinton, but Hillary Clinton helped make sure we got Donald Trump just by being herself.
	He did what he could.
	You know, he had four years, and then we had the damage done in 2020. And we've been suffering since.
	America, again, in four years, it's hard to believe that in four years, things got so bad and everybody felt the suffering.
	But my wife says it all the time.
	She says, things never change until the suffering gets personal.
	It's not about ideology.
	It's not about, oh, well, we need to change this because the country's trending wrong.
	No, it's about I can't afford gas.
	I can't afford groceries.
	And those, more than anything else, were what drove people to look at what the Democrats were doing to this country and say, we cannot survive this.
	And we need someone who believes that America is a place where prosperity is the norm.
	I'm Gen X. Literally, I am the lead dog, the oldest member of Generation X, and everyone in Gen X will bow down to me.
	But we're the last generation that got the full American dream.
	We got a better life than our parents, gifted to us by their hard work, by their sacrifice, by the values they lived by, by all of the things that made America great.
	They were part of that.
	Their parents were part of that.
	Going back and back and back.
	Well, we lost the line.
	We screwed up.
	And we let the left take control of the institutions of this country.
	They took over government.
	Most importantly, they took over education.
	They grew out of academia, where all bad ideas germinate, and they took that into training the next generations of teachers, and now our public education system is hellish in nature.
	It does no longer teaches anything that can rightly be called legitimate learning.
	They don't teach kids how to learn.
	They teach kids woke propaganda, bad math, and nothing useful.
	So we need to look at what we allowed to happen while we were enjoying, you know, the American dream.
	We let them steal the things that make America something I'm thankful for.
	So we need to take back academia.
	We need to take back all the parts of government, okay?
	We got control a part of it, but don't delude yourself into believing that this election changed anything.
	This election gave us the opportunity to begin changing things.
	And it's going to be a generational fight, which is why Thanksgiving is a good time to think about this.
	Look at your family.
	Look at those who came before you.
	Look at those who are coming after you.
	And think about what you were gifted and what you want to gift those who follow us.
	And I want to give them back the American dream.
	I want to make them happy and proud of this country.
	I want them to understand that our founding wasn't perfect, but it's the best anyone's ever done.
	And there's not a lot needed to change at this point.
	There were slavery.
	Women couldn't vote.
	We had bad problems at the founding, but those were societal and they were part of what was going on.
	We grew.
	We built a system that could change those things and did.
	And now we do have a fair system.
	Garbage DEI and the other woke lies aside, America is a fair place.
	You can succeed if you put the effort in, you have the talent, and bottom line, you get some luck.
	But the opportunity is there.
	And we need to now rebuild the institutions that made that possible to continue from generation to generation.
	And like I said, it's going to take generations.
	There's at least three generations of kids who never taught the truth about how this country was founded.
	And went through.
	They were told it was a white supremacist nation, slavery was the only thing that did anything good, and all white people did was destroy the country and oppress people.
	Well, I'm sorry.
	That's not exactly how it played out.
	So it's now incumbent on us to go ahead and change things back in a way that recognizes what was done wrong, What was done improperly.
	Doesn't wallow in it.
	I don't owe anything.
	I don't have any guilt about that.
	I never did any of those things.
	But it was done.
	So we acknowledge it, we learn from it, and we accept the fact that now we have what is essentially a level playing field.
	And if people start on a level playing field, they're not all going to end up in the same place.
	Equity is a lie.
	But what they can do is they can achieve what they're capable of with a society that holds no one back and helps the least among us the best we can.
	We're not expecting equal outcomes.
	What we want is equal opportunity, and more than that, we want the opportunity for every member of this society, every American, to achieve their dreams, to live a great life, and to pass on to the generations that follow them, to their kids and family, a better life than they got themselves.
	So thanks, America, for what I got.
	And we're going to make it great again.
	I'm Jim Hansen.
	We're doing America First Radio.
	All right, mics are hot.
	Right on.
	Mm-hmm.
	Ah.
	Got a little teary-eyed there.
	Mm-hmm.
	I love this country, man.
	You all do, man.
	I know.
	But, dude, it's just not widespread enough.
	There are far too many people who do not understand how good they have it.
	And, you know, a lot of them have never left this country.
	You know, they like to talk to those idiot actors.
	Who was it?
	Sharon Stone and Alec Baldwin.
	Say, oh yeah, Americans are ignorant because they don't travel and do that.
	You know, if you've traveled, you've seen the rest of this world.
	And I have.
	And most of it's a crap hole.
	And even the supposedly good countries are nothing to brag about.
	Yeah.
	He's on, by the way.
	Right on.
	Will, how you doing, buddy?
	Doing good, Jim.
	All right, man.
	Good to talk to you.
	Are you still in Florida?
	Right now I'm in North Carolina.
	I'm up in the Blue Ridge.
	Somebody's cut our fiber cable, so I'm literally on one or two bars of cell surface.
	So hopefully this holds up.
	We'll see.
	Dude, what do you got?
	Is it hurricane-related or anything, or is it just bad luck?
	I know there's repairs going on, so I'm thinking maybe the DOT repair just cut a fiber line, but it's apparently the whole community where we're up in this mountain house community right now, and Apparently, everybody's lost their cable and their internet.
	This should hold up.
	I've been able to browse the internet on Twitter a little bit with data, cell data.
	Right on.
	Well, you sound great.
	Happy Thanksgiving.
	Hope you guys are well.
	Happy Thanksgiving.
	How was the year?
	She's great.
	She's almost three.
	Dude, that's just not fair, man.
	Three.
	Three, they're dangerous.
	Two and three, oh my god.
	Oh yeah, no, she's got a lot of energy and she needs a nap but won't take one.
	That's like the stage we're at now.
	There you go.
	I remember.
	I'm edging my way.
	Our daughter got married and now they're planning weasels for next year.
	So I may be a grandpappy next year.
	Oh, fun.
	Which is a totally different game.
	I cannot wait because I am 100% going to be bad grandpa.
	Oh yeah, we're staying with the grandparents right now and they're having a blast.
	They have so much fun with her.
	And it's all the stuff that I haven't, all the play stuff I haven't gotten to do in a while and all that kind of thing, I get to do again.
	I mean, to me, it's like my third or fourth childhood.
	I'm not sure which one I'm on.
	Right, but the day-to-day, you get to outsource that to your kids.
	Your kid is crying.
	It's broken.
	I don't know what's wrong with it.
	It won't shut up.
	I hit the mute button.
	Nothing happened.
	Here you go.
	Your problem now.
	Right on.
	Oh, so you guys, were you going to stay there?
	Were you going to be coming back here at all?
	We did just move.
	We moved to Raleigh.
	Okay.
	Because this is where we did want to be closer to the grandparents.
	Right.
	And that puts me a little bit better touching distance to D.C. Like it becomes like a short, a reasonable drive on a weekend if I need to.
	Stuff like that.
	All right.
	But I don't plan on going into the administration or anything like that, so...
	Yeah, yeah.
	I'm talking to a lot of people with help with this transition, but I don't want that kind of bitching.
	Yeah.
	We're open with the dignity of women and comfort.
	Okay, yeah.
	Welcome back to America First with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo.
	It's Jim Hansen.
	All right.
	Happy to be back and happy to welcome to the show Will Chamberlain, the Article 3 project.
	And Will, I want to pick your brain a little bit.
	You're one of my favorite lawyerly types to bounce thoughts off.
	And there's been a lot of talk about what's going to happen in the military.
	As far as both women in combat, and then we can potentially get to the trans issue after that.
	But I want to just ask you straight out.
	If Pete Hegseth is confirmed as Secretary of Defense, as I expect him to be, and he puts into place a directive that says that women will not serve in combat units, in combat positions, as they are currently allowed in combat,
	but Is that something that can withstand scrutiny under the DOD's equal employment regulations and then also equal protection under the 14th Amendment?
	I can't really speak to the DOD's regulations.
	I'm not very familiar with them.
	I can speak to the 14th Amendment, though.
	I think that it would certainly pass constitutional scrutiny.
	Sex discrimination is subject to intermediate scrutiny, which, as it sounds like, is the sort of middle tier.
	Basically, it means you need a good reason to do it.
	It's a situation where the government will at least look at why you're doing it and insist that there's a good reason for it.
	But if you have a good reason, then it's probably going to pass constitutional muster.
	You know, the same reason, like, you know, we have different sports.
	You know, there are men's and women's sports.
	Clearly, there's a very good reason for that.
	And so that's, you know, that is discrimination that is permissible constitutionally.
	So similarly here with combat roles, there's a lot of reasons why men are more physically, you know, biologically more physically capable than women and more capable of performing certain tasks.
	And there's also plenty of situations that it's sort of obvious to imagine where having men and women together would not be a good idea.
	And so as a result, You get to the conclusion that it's probably going to pass constitutional muster.
	Now, I can think of some exceptions where, say, a female fighter pilot challenged it as applied and said, well, okay, it's combat roles, but my combat role is me doing it individually.
	I'm perfectly physically capable of performing this role, and I'm not interacting with anybody else, so there's literally no good reason why.
	You know, I should be forced to stop being a pilot, even though I've spent a lot of training.
	I could see a world where that particular, you know, a small group of, there are exceptions to the general rule, but I don't think, you know, I don't think the general rule will be found to be unconstitutional.
	I think Hegseth won't have a problem getting it through.
	Interesting.
	Okay.
	Let me play devil's advocate because we've been kind of wargaming this to see how it's going to go.
	I assume it would be challenged if it is implemented.
	So the arguments I've heard that are most compelling seem to be, number one, is that presents an unfair ability for women in the military to have career progression.
	Because in the military, it's very rare for, other than in specific career fields, the highest levels of leadership to not come from the combat arms part of the military.
	You'll get combat arms and combat support.
	So the pointy industry, infantry, artillery, armor, special operations.
	So if women are excluded from those roles, then you're not just solving a problem of, you know, they may not be able to physically handle the job, but you're not offering them the same career opportunity that men have.
	What would be the answer to that?
	I mean, that's sort of interesting.
	I think they, you know, they might be able to Force changes in the way that career progression happens.
	I mean, I think I could imagine a world where DOD is compelled by court order to I think that would be a way to solve the problem.
	accommodate the genuine need of DOD to not have women in combat roles to increase readiness while maybe compelling them in another way.
	I mean, and then that would come up with a, you know, is that would lead to the second question, which is how essential is it that high end, higher up leaders serving combat?
	And I don't know the answer to that question.
	I'm not a, you know, I have no experience personally in the military.
	And I would say in that situation, I think I want a military that's led by people at the pointy end of the spear, not in the rear with the gear.
	Now that's obviously, I have a bone to pick in that regard.
	And I think there's a case to be made that that should be a major consideration.
	But all right, let's jump.
	There's one more, I think, argument that It needs to be addressed.
	If the argument is that women as a whole are not as physically capable, and that's just a fact, not as strong, not as much oxygen production capability, etc.
	But there are some who do have high levels of that.
	There are women who would be capable of performing the physical tasks of a ground infantryman, of an armored crew person, of a special operator.
	It's a small number.
	But if the argument is that women can't do that, is it fair to exclude the ones then who can?
	I mean, that's a good question.
	And I think that that's the, you know, essentially DOD will have to do a better job on the sort of alternative arguments, which are things like unit cohesion.
	And they'll have to articulate those well in order to justify excluding those women from combat roles, is my guess.
	And if this were, again, brought by legal challenge, another Also, it's quite possible that those metrics will be set at a level that basically no women can achieve.
	I think that's basically the situation in Special Forces already.
	I think that if you want to be a Navy SEAL, the standards to become a Navy SEAL are so onerous that basically there's no women on the planet that could meet them.
	Or not enough.
	And the ones who can are probably professional athletes and don't want to do that.
	Or who have other things they want to do except be in the field.
	So let me hit you with one more before we catch the break here.
	But in the Grutter-Bollinger decision about college admissions, the military academies were excluded.
	And that generally gets brought up.
	But I want to question, the reason they were excluded was not to say that they have special circumstances.
	It was just saying that they would be allowed to bring a challenge on the grounds that they needed to do things like affirmative action in order to have a military that more properly or closely reflected the general populace.
	Now, they didn't say how they would rule on that, but they basically were hinting that they would take a challenge.
	But if you want to say that excluding women from combat is kind of the opposite of that, that would be a reason to make a—they got excluded from that ruling based on being inclusive.
	This would be based on being exclusive.
	Do you think that could come into play?
	I think both of them kind of stem from the same underlying logic, oddly enough, even though they're kind of discrimination in different ways, right?
	Like, you know, the racial, you know, affirmative action is racial discrimination to have a more broad, you know, have broader representation, and then no women in combat is a form of discrimination to essentially ensure that, you know, ensure a certain level of functioning or whatever the rationale is for that.
	But then the question is always, how good is your reason for engaging in this discrimination?
	And the way that the Supreme Court handles it is they have different tiers for different types of discrimination.
	So racial discrimination is subject to strict scrutiny, which is something like your reason needs to be really, really, really, really good to justify racial discrimination.
	Whereas for sex discrimination, it's just you need a good reason.
	That's interesting.
	I guess we don't have time to dig into it, but I wonder why they would make that distinction.
	Other than the fact that there was some pretty heinous racial discrimination in the form of slavery at one point.
	We're talking with Will Chamberlain, who is Senior Counsel for the Article 3 Project.
	And Will, there's a couple more things I want to pick your brain on next segment.
	But right now we're going to take a break and we will be back with more America First Radio.
	Right on.
	So anyhow, Will, I think it's going to be interesting because I'm not convinced, even with intermediate scrutiny, that the Roberts Court's going to go that way.
	Yeah, hard to know.
	It really depends on, I mean...
	Now we're past the law into the court, you know?
	Yeah.
	I mean, they're going to have to really paper, you know, they're going to have to, Texas is going to have to have really good people around him who paper that decision really well.
	Like, basically, you know, establish, like, hey, look, unit cohesion goes down in co-ed units, period, and stop.
	It's not, it hurts.
	Like, it doesn't just, like, we think it'll hurt, we can, like, demonstrate that it hurts.
	And if they can do that?
	The problem is, there's a couple studies that generally get brought up.
	One is on the physical side, but most of the ones on the unit cohesion are not going that direction.
	So that's going to be a challenge.
	I know.
	It's counterintuitive to me, too, because I've been in those units.
	And I know how the boys are in the team room.
	It's a dirty, nasty place.
	And it's evil.
	It's properly evil.
	You want that kind of evil.
	You want us on that wall.
	It's essentially the Colonel Jessup concept.
	But yeah, the studies on does it cause unit cohesion issues are less...
	They actually were going the opposite direction.
	The one on can women physically compete was kind of a flawed study.
	So I think what may end up happening and may be smart is just do some new studies before we make any decisions on this.
	And like you said, if you want to do this, get definitive data.
	Get something persuasive.
	That then, if you want to lay it before the court, they're not...
	Because I don't think the Roberts court, him especially, wants to be seen as conservative activists, you know?
	Yeah.
	And I don't think they're going to be a rubber stamp for anything like, oh, of course the conservative court, like the left would say, the conservative court's going to rubber stamp that.
	I don't think Roberts is.
	I don't think ACB is a good, you know, 100% vote.
	Yeah, they don't want to disturb the, like, tears of...
	They're also like, this is long-standing, like, precedent.
	Like, the sort of...
	The equal protection setup, tiers of scrutiny, this has been around for a while.
	I don't think they just want to toss it out.
	So, like, you can expect to be held to, you know, expect a court to analyze your practices using that framework.
	And so, if you don't feel like you actually have a good chance of prevailing under that framework, you're going to need to, you probably don't want to do it.
	Yeah, and I think that's, we'll see how it goes.
	I mean, I know there will be a lot of smart people working on this, and We're helping a little bit, too.
	So that's part of it.
	You've met my wife.
	She actually disagrees on this, obviously.
	She's a pint-sized paratrooper herself, and she wants a good look at it so we can see what the facts on the ground are.
	And I think that's going to be interesting.
	I think that's probably what most people want.
	They aren't implacably opposed to it, especially most kind of independent right people.
	Well, I mean, it's the military.
	We want the military to work better, so what's the right answer for it working better?
	And we're unwokening and fixing a lot of stuff.
	This is going to be one of the things that gets looked at.
	I want to jump into what are the legal ways we can work against the censorship industrial complex.
	Okay.
	Because there's a lot of good stuff going that direction.
	I just want to get some ideas in play as to what we can actually do.
	Part of the possible.
	Yeah.
	Welcome back to America First with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo.
	It's Jim Hansen.
	All right, we are Thanksgiving evening today, and I'm pleased to continue to be joined by Will Chamberlain, who is Senior Counsel for the Article III Project.
	Will, I want to jump into one of my favorite, and I think one of the most important things facing us, killing the censorship industrial complex.
	Now, there's a couple lawsuits that I know have been ongoing.
	One was State of Missouri, I think, Was trying to basically push back on some of the censorship that was done where the Biden administration pushed the social media companies into doing their job, which is unconstitutional, doing the job of censoring things they didn't like.
	It's not allowed, but yet they did it.
	We talked a little bit yesterday about killing Article 230 for social media companies and removing that protection.
	What are your thoughts on that as far as getting the ball rolling?
	Is that a good place to start?
	I mean, getting rid of 230 is tricky, obviously, because 230 is what allows broader, big social media companies to exist in the first place.
	If they're liable for every single social media post made by anybody, they quickly get drowned in defamation lawsuits and it becomes impossible to really start, except for maybe the biggest social media companies that can carve out an exemption for themselves.
	So I'm not necessarily a big repeal 230 proponent.
	For a long time I've been a proponent of something like, you know, basically the idea that people should have a civil right to use these social media companies in order to speak.
	And I think something like that might make sense.
	Do you reform it, though, and then go ahead and say, okay, you can't, you know, create it like the Civil Rights Act kind of thing.
	You can't discriminate on these bases and add ideological beliefs, as long as it's not criminal.
	You know, you have a right to free speech up to incitement or whatever, wherever you want to draw that line.
	Yeah, I think, I mean, I think that's a reasonable place to go.
	I think if we could actually get that passed, that would be great.
	I think there's plenty also that, you know, in terms of actually stopping this, you know, censorship industrial complex, like to me, that's mainly at this point, it's foreign governments and NGOs.
	We're going to control the federal government for the next four years, so it's going to be doing a lot less.
	Although I think at the outset you could do an executive order that basically bans the sort of things that the Biden administration got sued over, right?
	Like you just take that injunction that that Texas court issued and you say, ah, what a great model for an executive order.
	President Trump should just immediately order that like nobody in the government is going to do anything to coordinate censorship with social media companies.
	I've seen one.
	There's one waiting for his pen.
	So that's going to happen, I think.
	I think, yeah, that seems like an obvious start.
	And then I hear stories about foreign governments trying to think about like, oh, we're going to start punishing disinformation or doing something.
	I think Britain had some law where they're like, if you don't obey our orders on disinformation, then we're going to fine you 5% of your global revenue or something.
	I mean, the British need to have a phone call where they are told what the score is, that if any sort of law like this passes, we're going to pass.
	A flat 100% tariff on all their products.
	Don't make us bring some boats and toss some tea in your harbor, dude.
	We did this once.
	We'll come back and do it on your side.
	Even worse than that, they're the colony now.
	We were a colony before.
	They're the colony now.
	They're our vassal.
	They live under our defense umbrella.
	They do not get to impose fees like this on our social media companies and force them to violate our values.
	So no.
	They're going to behave.
	And then I think the third thing is you defund all these NGOs.
	You make sure that nobody's cooperating with the NGOs and any of the money that goes to these NGOs is toxic.
	And we try and essentially treat them like hostile foreign adversaries.
	Sanction them.
	If you're engaged in the misinformation or disinformation business as an NGO, well, guess what?
	I think you're going to find that it's a very hostile environment for you to get any donors.
	Even if we can't do the hard sanctions on them, we can certainly make clear to people that we're going to figure out who's funding this.
	And if you are funding this, then don't expect any friends, any way in which the Trump administration is going to help you, period.
	We're a free speech administration.
	If you're funding this, you're hostile to our values.
	Period.
	Be a shame if the IRS agents who aren't going to be hassling regular taxpayers had to come and knock on your door.
	But that's probably another thing, though, that could be done with executive order, right?
	You could just say, we will no longer allow those things to be funded.
	Yeah, that's exactly right.
	Like, no funding, no cooperation, don't take any information from them, right?
	No coordination.
	Like, you should not be, you know, we don't want to hear anything about these organizations, and we don't want to hear about anybody dealing with them, right?
	And anybody who does that is, you know, is going to be in violation of this executive order, and then will face...
	You know what's funny, Will, and it kills me, is as soon as you do that, there will be howling at the moon and wailing and gnashing of teeth and rending of garments on the left as they claim that we're censoring them.
	By stopping their full-scale industrial effort to make us shut up.
	It's absurd.
	Well, thanks for your insight.
	Always a pleasure to get your take on thorny legal issues.
	Will Chamberlain is senior counsel for the Article 3 project and an all-around smart guy we like to have a chat with from time to time.
	Thanks for coming on.
	All right.
	Thanks for having me.
	All right.
	right we'll be back after the break with more america first thanksgiving eve radio all right He's gone.
	Well, that's sad.
	I like Will.
	I love arguing with lawyers.
	In the military, they call you a shithouse lawyer or a barracks lawyer.
	I mean, those are the two terms.
	He's one of those guys who always figures out what the rules are and how you can make them work to your advantage or you can't make me do this, you can't make me do that.
	I'll give you the most famous example of that.
	I'm basically entertaining the rumble chat here is what I'm doing.
	My team, when I was in Okinawa, we went on a deployment one time, and I don't remember why.
	I'm going to honestly say I don't remember why, but three-quarters of the team got nipple rings.
	It was someplace in Asia.
	You know, it was probably the Philippines or Thailand.
	I can't remember what we were doing.
	We were out the boonies and we ended up going into town and for whatever reason we decided that all of us needed to get nipple rings because that would just be rad.
	You know, we're just trying to be, you know, counterculture and just cause trouble.
	And so we go back to Okinawa, right?
	And we had a sergeant major who was just by the book.
	You know, he's in a special forces unit.
	He was an old Vietnam guy, so he was a badass.
	But he also, he just, he wanted us to have haircuts.
	He wanted us to wear the right uniform.
	All that stupid shit that we didn't want to do, you know?
	I didn't join Special Forces to wear the right uniform.
	I wore it to wear the wrong uniform, damn it.
	So anyhow, we're down and we're actually on the beach in Okinawa having a company party.
	And we're about to start playing volleyball, you know, beach volleyball on the beach.
	And so we took our shirts off, and he sees like six of us with nipple rings, and his frickin' head exploded, right?
	And he's spitting and sputtering.
	He's like, what?
	You can't dip snow!
	And military clothing regulations is AR 670-1.
	And me being a barracks shithouse lawyer, I knew what you were allowed to do and not do under AR 670-1.
	And he says, you're not allowed to have an earring under 670-1.
	Sergeant Major, you're absolutely correct.
	We are not allowed to wear an earring as male soldiers.
	That's not my ear.
	And I'm sorry, if you want to get that amended and talk to me again, we can have a chat.
	But as far as this goes, that's not my ear, and I'm going to go ahead and continue to drive you crazy.
	If it's visible, yeah, then it's a problem.
	But no, we've got to wear a t-shirt.
	There is no military uniform that does not include a shirt of some sort.
	Oh, he was an unhappy guy.
	He hated me.
	Oh, my God.
	It's like the opposite of a teacher's pet.
	Yeah, yeah, I was the guy.
	Maybe I'll tell this in the next break.
	He actually tried to kill me one time, I think.
	He was asking for a rifle to shoot me, and no one would give him one.
	So I don't know if he was actually going to do it, but he was seriously considering the world would be a better place if he shot me.
	He was going to pull a Starship Trooper and shoot me.
	Yeah, at long range.
	I mean, this was like five...
	It would have been a 500-meter shot, so it would have been a hell of a shot, but...
	You've got to tell that story next.
	All right, remind me next break to go ahead and do that.
	Oh, and someone in chat was asking, where's the steak?
	Oh, my God.
	My bad.
	I put it on the counter, and I forgot it when I left home, and I screwed the crew out of the steak they were supposed to be nibbling on right now because I'm a horrible human being.
	Hey, Jim, you want to do the read here?
	I should do the read here.
	Yeah, that's a good call.
	And I will open up the phone lines, too.
	Okay, are you going to use the audio?
	Yeah, no, let's do that.
	Welcome back to America First with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo.
	It's Jim Hansen.
	Alright, welcome back, Thanksgiving Eve.
	I want to open up the phone lines, 833-33-GORCA, 833-334-6752.
	I see we got Randy on the board, dude, to talk about Women in Combat.
	Be patient, I will get to you right after we talk about Angel Tree.
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	Okay, once again, the phone lines are open, 833-333-GORCA, 833-334-6752.
	But now I want to talk to Randy.
	You said you have served, and you don't think women should be in combat.
	Tell me why.
	Well, I'm a Marine, and we've been in the war zone, and I have women around me in the war zone.
	They're gung-ho.
	They want to serve their country.
	But once they get in that war zone, they break down really fast emotionally.
	And then it's like you have to take care of your sister all the time after that.
	But it's the truth, and, you know, we can't be having that, really.
	So are there any of women?
	I mean, the ones obviously you served with didn't appear to meet the grade.
	Do you think there are women who could pull their weight, or is it just not something they're capable of?
	Well, like your callers, I mean, I'll guess that the pilots, I know a couple of pilots, and, you know, they did a good other job there, but when they're on the ground, middle of crap, it's a whole different ballgame.
	Yeah, no, I think that's fair.
	And I think if you set a standard for a job, now that's one thing, in the military right now, we don't actually have set physical standards by position.
	You know, there's a physical fitness test that is military-wide.
	Some of the special operations units, like I was in special forces, you have a particular test of you have to do a water safety test, swimming, you know, with equipment and things like that.
	But there's no standards that say an infantryman must be able to pick up a box of mortar rounds and load them in the back of a truck.
	You know, I think there's probably a need in the current environment to set standards based on what the mission is.
	And part of this, if you look right now, the military is having trouble in recruiting because they can't find enough physically fit people because as a country, we no longer have the level of physical fitness we used to across the entire cohort you know of people in the 18 to 20 some year old age range they're just not
	The percentage of them who are overweight, who are not capable of doing those, you know, the set of physical tasks that would be required is much smaller.
	So I think there's another question to ask.
	Should we make a split between combat arms units, the infantry, armor, special forces, that kind of thing, and the combat support?
	And, you know, you could basically take all of the administrative, logistics, cyber, you know, drone operators.
	Do those people need to have the same level of physical fitness as a grunt who's humping a rucksack that weighs 100 pounds?
	I think you can make a case they do not.
	And I think it might be worth, and I will mention this to soon-to-be SecDev Pete Hegseth, as we discuss things like this, that maybe it's time to look at whether each job has a specific set of requirements, both mental and physical, And then we pick and allow people, you know, because we've got...
	I don't want to lose out on that guy who might be the world's greatest video game playing savage who could now fly our drones and take out half of the enemy forces before anybody touches him just because he might have had a few too many, you know, Doritos and, you know, drinking Mountain Dew and sitting in the basement.
	That kid's a stud in his own way.
	So I think we need to realize it.
	Let's recognize it.
	We can say, okay, well, maybe the answer everyone should do, I have to do more physical stuff in school, and we'll whip this country back into shape.
	Yeah, good luck, okay?
	I don't think you're going to turn that ship.
	But what we can do is recognize, okay, maybe in the course of, and one thing I will say, some of the younger Gen Z types and whatever the generation below that is, they are starting to actually Recognize that maybe this unhealthy lifestyle is bad, and maybe this will turn itself.
	Maybe they'll stop taking shots of seed oil and all that kind of stuff.
	But we'll see.
	But I think for the military, the need for people who can do a particular job Should not arbitrarily exclude segments of the population who can do that particular job, even though they may not reach a higher level of physical fitness as needed for some of the more extreme jobs.
	I don't think that's a dumb thing to think about.
	I think that's the smart way to deal with what we have.
	Right now, I've noticed there is kind of a don't look, don't notice about weight standards and things like that in the military.
	I'm seeing a lot more uniforms with stretch marks on the seams than I ever did before.
	And I'm not saying those are people who should be kicked out.
	Maybe they're so good at their job, we should figure out how to keep them in and change the way we look at what the requirements are for military service in particular positions.
	So, something to chew on.
	If you've got something to say about that, phone lines are open 833-33-GORCA, 833-334-6752.
	Back after the break.
	Back after the break.
	All righty.
	Are you going to take calls with Kurt or do you want me to keep the phone lines closed?
	I think we'll probably be able to run our gums.
	It doesn't seem like anybody wants to talk anyhow.
	It's holiday weekend.
	They're traveling.
	I know.
	It's just us stuck here in the studio.
	You got plenty of callers yesterday, but yeah, like you said, today and yeah, Thanksgiving.
	I don't blame them.
	I'm lucky.
	My wife's home doing chores.
	I'll be in trouble when I get home.
	She had me fetching and toting before I came out here, though.
	Oh, so the story...
	Now, do you call weekend on holiday weekends, or do you wait until Friday?
	Yeah, no, I call weekend whenever I want.
	Okay, quick Sard Major story.
	So, we're in the Philippines.
	This time, for sure, we were in the Philippines.
	And we're out in the boonies, and we were training some Filipino troops.
	And we went through and actually taught them land nav and they finished this land navigation course.
	And one of the Filipino lieutenants had this big giant straw sombrero that he wore when he walked the course because it's hot and it's the Philippines.
	It's like 110 degrees, 100% humidity, right?
	So he's got on this straw sombrero.
	He finishes the course.
	He had a hard time with it.
	I spent a lot of time teaching him personally, right?
	So he finishes.
	He's thrilled.
	He's ecstatic.
	He comes over.
	He gives me a hug.
	And he's like, I want to give you this hat.
	Right?
	So he gives me his giant straw sombrero and it's like a big floppy one, right?
	And so I had on a US boonie cap, right?
	You know, like the cowboy, the small cowboy hat looking thing.
	And so I gave him that.
	And I put on the hat.
	And one of the things you do in Special Forces is you build rapport with, you know, the fellow units.
	So we're leaving this and we're driving past our...
	We had a base camp we built out in the middle of nowhere.
	And Sergeant Major's up on the hill.
	And he sees me drive by...
	Wearing this straw sombrero on my head.
	Who is that?
	That's Hanson.
	Oh, God!
	Not again!
	And he's just spitting and spluttering.
	And he's yelling.
	And then I go out of range.
	And then all we did is we went up and we dropped off the Filipino guys.
	And then we turned around and we came by again.
	And we were going back to the land half course.
	So I come into sight the second time.
	And he sees me.
	Somebody give me a rifle right now!
	He's trying to get somebody to give him a gun.
	And no one came.
	No one.
	No, everybody.
	Fortunately, I had enough friends who were not willing to see me shot for that.
	And I'm going to go ahead and hope that he was going to give me a warning shot.
	He's going to shoot the hat off your head like Willett Fiddle.
	Yeah, there you go.
	You know, I mean, he's an old Vietnam vet guy.
	Sounded like a big enough target.
	There you go.
	Welcome back to America
	First with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo.
	It's Jim Hansen.
	Hey folks, glad to be back.
	We are doing all we can to entertain everyone, whether you're on the road, heading to family, whether you're setting up for folks here.
	Jeff, how many people you got coming to your house?
	Jeff, the producer here, has like 6 million people coming over.
	How many for real?
	Just a little bit over 60. He showed me the table.
	It's stunning.
	He's got the table for $38, and then in the backyard, the kids' table's not even in the house.
	You've got the kids' table in the backyard in a tent.
	Right?
	A nice little one of those white tents.
	And there's a side table, too, off the long table for kind of the teenagers.
	Right.
	The in-between adults and the kids.
	And then the really bad kids are in the neighbor's yard.
	No, that's the ones that voted for Kamala.
	No!
	We hate them, but we gotta keep them around.
	Alright, hey, we got one more call I want to take here.
	Mark from Phoenix.
	Let's hear what you got to say.
	Well, we were talking about qualifications for the military.
	Yeah.
	And, well...
	I happen to have muscular dystrophy, but I'm extremely intelligent.
	Definitely, I think there's a lot of people that have issues, such as mine, that could give great service to the military, just not physically capable of doing so.
	Now, that's a fascinating thing.
	I hadn't gotten to that yet.
	But if you look at the things that are going to be happening, you know, for the military, there's so many of them are going to be driven virtually.
	You know, I mean, we're getting to the point where with all of the unmanned vehicles, you look what happened in Ukraine, you know, a lot of the fighting they did was done by drones, was done by unmanned vehicles.
	Why send an American into harm's way if you don't have to?
	And if that's the case, and if physical mobility is not required for the job you're doing, you know, we got drone operators right now on bases in Nevada, right?
	They're sitting in air-conditioned trailers, flying drones all over the world, doesn't matter where they are.
	I think that's a really interesting concept and a way to look at whether the requirements Should match the job, you know, and if that should open up avenues, because I would have never thought of someone with muscular dystrophy being able to serve in the military.
	And yet, you know, I mean, if it's not going to be a deployable overseas situation, I think there may be ways we can do things like that, especially you get into now.
	Let's start adding, you know, some of the AI enabled things that are going on.
	You know, and wow, maybe we get into, you know, mech soldiers and stuff like that.
	We are at the point where the things that were always science fiction in my youth and most of my adult life are potential realities now.
	And I think let's be smart about it.
	We got Elon Musk helping to come up with great crazy ideas for the government and everything else.
	Why not open up all of all the avenues to let, you know, people who can contribute Contribute how they can.
	You know, I think that's a fascinating idea.
	Thanks for bringing that up.
	I think that's a fun thing to be able to contemplate.
	I think it says we've come a long way as a country.
	All right, this is Jim Hansen.
	We are at the top of the first hour here.
	Hey, coming back after the news, it's going to be me and Colonel Kurt Schlichter for an hour of the Warlords reunion.
	Be there.
	Seven minutes.
	Oh boy.
	Alright.
	Yeah, you know what's funny?
	I ran into that Sergeant Major probably 15 years after I left the unit, you know, and I was telling him, I was like, you know, hey, Sergeant Major, I just want to apologize for all the shit I did to make your head explode.
	He's like, I don't even remember that.
	I don't remember.
	You seemed like a good troop to me.
	I'm like, dude, I think your mind has gone.
	I 100% remember trying to make your entire head blow off your shoulders.
	He was fun.
	That's good.
	So another thing I did, I had...
	Here we go.
	In Okinawa, the barracks were on like a slight rise.
	You know, amazing view of the ocean.
	You know, I mean, we're right there 150 yards from the beach.
	But it was a nice, you know, slight downgrade all the way down to what we called the box in Okinawa was the secure compound for the unit.
	And at that point in time, I had a skateboard.
	And I had a pair of bright lime green Reebok skateboarding shoes.
	And every morning I would ride down from the barracks to PT, you know, when we'd get ready to do physical training.
	And I would ride the skateboard down and he'd see me coming and he'd just start yelling again, God, is that Hanson again?
	You can't!
	I'm like, Sergeant Major, what do you mean I can't?
	I can.
	It's my skateboard.
	You let people ride bikes here, right?
	Yeah.
	Oh, he hates them.
	The green shoes.
	Oh, they were loud.
	They were like green and fuchsia purple.
	They were just horrible.
	I bought them specifically so people would hate them.
	That is the best.
	Kurt, we got Schlichter, right?
	Has he got Mark Cuban glasses on?
	What are those, man?
	How do you like them?
	They look kind of funky.
	Were they safety glasses?
	What were they?
	Those are reading glasses because I'm old AF. Dude, you and me both, man.
	Dude.
	Dude.
	Rotator cuff surgery.
	Inbound.
	Oh, it hasn't happened yet?
	Has not happened yet.
	Where are you at?
	You in Houston or Cali?
	I'm in Cali.
	By the way, let me show you something.
	Oh, is this the new you?
	Oh, man.
	Okay, that's a whole new world.
	Remember the old one?
	I 100% know.
	Now, I like the old one because it looked like we were in a cowboy movie and you'd come in and sit around the old Mexican, you know, it had that tile that was kind of old and it had that cool little nook thing, the table.
	Yeah, well, it's a little changed now.
	No, it's much better now.
	It's gorgeous now.
	It is nice.
	I can't wait to entertain you guys here.
	We will be back when we're coming out.
	You gotta come out soon.
	Um, yeah.
	It'll be next year.
	Hi, Irina.
	Come say hi to Jim.
	We're not on air yet.
	I don't think.
	Well, we are.
	It's Rumble.
	They love it.
	Oh, look it.
	Hey.
	Hi, beautiful.
	Look at her.
	Huh?
	She is the smoking hot Cuban wife.
	There you go.
	That's it.
	There you go.
	Aw, that's sweet.
	I showed him the...
	He's at Gorka's studio.
	Oh, you're at the studio.
	Yeah, I showed him the new pad.
	He's impressive.
	It's gorgeous.
	It's nice.
	It's nice.
	Well, I will say hi to Sam on your behalf.
	She will be sad she didn't get to participate.
	I'll bring her with next time.
	Yeah, I was like, I don't have to wear a jacket because Hanson won't be wearing it.
	And I come down here, I look like a flag.
	You look kind of nice, man.
	It's slick.
	I'm playing the game.
	Yeah, he's doing Diet Dr. Pepper, man.
	That is the greatest of all soft drinks.
	Oh, I've got like 10 cases.
	DDP. I was at a thing one time and Louie Gohmert, the Texas congressman, was there.
	It was at Boone Pickens, right?
	The rich Texas oil guy.
	Oh, geez.
	Right.
	It was at his ranch on the Texas-Oklahoma border, which is like a thousand acres.
	And, you know, he had like Italian villa recreated and all this.
	It was just a gigantic thing, right?
	Louie Goberman and his wife showed up and each one of them brought a case of Dr. Pepper.
	One was Dr. Pepper and one was Diet Dr. Pepper.
	To a place where they had everything.
	Boone Pickens had probably a kitchen the size of either one of our houses.
	But they brought their own Diet Dr. Pepper just in case.
	And that was where I got hooked on it.
	They made a believer out of me.
	Okay, guys.
	Elsewhere, please.
	Everybody decides it's a good place to have a conversation right where I'm doing TV. That's, you know, that's the way the game is played.
	Because this is how we make my money, baby.
	It's called branding.
	The big bucks.
	Two minutes.
	That's what the cats like to do.
	By the way, I'm officially going to be a main occupation writer after the end of next month.
	I am leaving the firm.
	Dude, I applaud him.
	Well, as a full-time guy.
	Yeah, no.
	They'll bring you in as the heavy hitter when they've got to crush something, right?
	This is true.
	Right on.
	All right.
	Well, dude, I'll give you first topic if you want it.
	If not, we were just doing Women in Combat.
	Drunk Kamala.
	Let's do Drunk Kamala.
	We got the clip.
	I didn't ask for the clip.
	We don't need the clip.
	We don't need the clip.
	Everybody knows she was drunk.
	We just have to say we're going to talk about Drunk Kamala.
	Oh, there you go.
	Oh, my God.
	Okay, we're going to do that.
	We'll have a little of that.
	We can do the...
	Kurt, can you talk to me about how you have to preserve your power?
	Okay.
	All right.
	I think that's important.
	I will ask your advice as my attorney.
	And I will cameline it up for you.
	We should be Hunter S. Thompson and Dr. Gonzo and what was his attorney?
	Oh, God.
	I don't know.
	It's like Benicio or something.
	Yeah.
	Well, that was the actor.
	I'm not talking about the actor.
	He had a name for him.
	They had a fake name for him.
	Somebody in Rumble Chat figured out what Hunter S. Thompson's lawyer is.
	Gomez or something.
	Yeah.
	It was something.
	It was a Hispanic name.
	Yeah.
	It was awesome.
	Because I've been telling the story about...
	Oscar Acosta?
	No, I don't think that's it.
	It sounds a little legit.
	Good lord, my nose hole looks terrible.
	Look at that.
	See, I got the new camera set up.
	Dude, you look great.
	You got lights on you, or is that natural?
	No, this is where they cut out a skin cancer.
	I'm a mess!
	No, I'm talking that you're bright.
	Like, that's a very bright area.
	Is that just your natural light?
	15 seconds.
	That's natural lighting, baby.
	All match.
	Cali.
	All right, we've got 10 seconds.
	That's enough for a full work wedding.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	This is America First.
	And I'm delighted to welcome our special guest host, Jim Hansen.
	Hey, and I am delighted because I know this is what you guys have been waiting for.
	You love me, of course, I love me too, and I love flapping my gums, but it's always better when you can get the warlords together.
	So we're going to start now, and we're going to go off the rails.
	With Colonel Kurt Schlichter, my buddy, author of The Attack, the Kelly Turnbull novels.
	Just go to Amazon and buy everything he sells if you don't already own it.
	And if you do own it, get an autographed copy.
	Because that's how Kurt now is going to be making his living.
	He's going to be an author, aren't you, buddy?
	I will be a lawyer as of December 4th, 30 years.
	And at the end of next month, I'm going to leave the partnership at my firm.
	I'm staying with the firm.
	I'll be what's called of counsel, but I won't be doing law day in and day out.
	I will primarily be a writer and media figure.
	Which we need.
	We need that kind of stuff.
	Well, in your pundit role, I would like to ask you if you could help me figure out how to maintain my power and make sure no one takes my power.
	Do you have any thoughts on that?
	Well, look, I watched Kamala Harris's thing, and I'd like to do a tribute to it.
	I've got a bottle of rosé here.
	Keep your power.
	Don't let anyone take your power.
	Because your power is powerful.
	And it's the power to have that power that empowers you and me.
	And another thing.
	Your power is...
	Just keep your power...
	For those of you who couldn't see that...
	Trump's a Nazi.
	Goodbye.
	Number one, that was an outstanding Kamala imitation.
	Actually, if I had closed my eyes, it could have been her.
	It was spooky.
	It was parent trap level.
	But he also, for those of you who are watching or listening on radio, he was waving around a bottle of wine, and it was a bottle.
	Not just any wine.
	This is an Enfield Foot Tread Rosé, the best rosé I've ever had.
	To do it accurately, then, you should have had an empty box of white zin, you know?
	Look, I don't have any bad wine, as you know.
	Right.
	But man, for instance, you and Dr. Gorka do not partake of the vine any longer.
	That part of your life is over.
	And after watching Kamala, I had to reevaluate my openness to it, lest I humiliate myself like she did.
	Holy cow!
	I quit drinking because I didn't want to die decrepit old drunk.
	You know, and I literally, if you look at pictures of me 15 years ago, I look younger now and I don't look young, but I looked awful.
	And last night, she was the after You know, in one of those stories where they say, you know, what I ordered online and what they delivered.
	Well, they delivered burned out, drunk, horrible, no longer viable Kamala.
	What was the thought process where somebody said, I got an idea.
	Let's have her go out there and reintroduce herself after a crushing defeat at the hands of President Donald J. Trump.
	And let's do it after she's, you know, gone through a couple bottles of gallow.
	Well, here, though, I think that may have been purposeful.
	I think it was a feature, not a bug, because she's right now—and it's only—let's go.
	It's name recognition.
	But she's the leading candidate for 2028. And I think every person who has any authority and power in the Democrat world is saying, we must destroy her.
	So I think they just— I think it had to be Pelosi's idea.
	I think Pelosi was like, take her out, pour a couple of bottles of, you know, oaky buttery Chardonnay on her gullet.
	And then just flip on the camera and just tell her to talk like the world's dumbest bumper sticker.
	Okay, so now let's flip it on that.
	So if you're the Dems, right, they just got brutalized.
	Now, okay, the economy is part of it, but they did that, so they own that.
	DEI, wokeness, there's all that.
	And then they got killed on every issue and their minority group identity politics people are coming our way.
	What can they do?
	I mean, what's their options at this point?
	I think some of them, you know, you and I evaluate rats.
	So I take more seriously the people who Some of them say, hey, you know, you got to lead into populist economics more.
	The fact is, people are out here hurting.
	Donald Trump won because a bunch of people want the economy to be better.
	That's why they won.
	All the other stuff, yeah, yeah, that's all important.
	But if he blows it on the economy, that he doesn't bring the economy back like Reagan did in the 80s, so that everybody's just like, this is great, we can work, we can make money, we can take care of our families.
	I think the Republicans are screwed because, frankly, the voters don't have any loyalty to the party.
	Or to Trump, frankly.
	That part of the center that swings both directions, if the economy doesn't come back, like Trump promised, and the thing is, I think people think presidents have more control over things like that than they actually do, and it's like turning an aircraft carrier into You know, you can't turn it on a dime.
	You know, it takes a little bit of room to turn it.
	It's going to take a while.
	Yeah, so if we only have, you know, two years till midterms, and then potentially we lose control of Congress, that's not a lot of time to get policies in.
	So I'm a little concerned about that.
	Well, we got to make sure the tax cuts for small businesses and hardworking people are extended and made permanent.
	And we gotta let Elon Musk and Vivek Romaswamy run rampant over the federal budget and cut that.
	Is there people out there that can't buy a house?
	They can't afford a car?
	They're not able to live like Americans should.
	If you work hard, you should be able to have a good life and take care of your family.
	Maybe you're not going to live in a mansion.
	I don't live in a mansion.
	You kind of live in a mansion.
	I don't live in it.
	Don't tell people.
	It's a nice house.
	But the thing is, people want a fair chance for their families, and that's what they gave Trump.
	All the other stuff that guys like you and me are really focused on, as important as it is, I think it was a sideline.
	Trump Wins or loses on whether the economy is good in 2026. I think you have to, along with that, re-educate people about their role in that economy.
	Because first of all, okay, everybody got steamrolled by how bad things were.
	But I was talking before about the loss of the American dream.
	We got a better life than our parents who got a better life than their parents.
	But it was because of the way they lived and worked and what they did.
	They saved.
	They didn't immediately.
	Everyone now graduates from either high school or college and goes to work and immediately has subscriptions to everything and a new iPhone and all of this.
	And I'm not saying that there aren't people who aren't saving and doing that, but there's a mentality now of live for today.
	YOLO, you only live once.
	And the people who came before us lived longer than that.
	They lived for their children.
	Well, look, I've got some people doing some work in my front yard right now.
	And these guys are out there.
	They're doing a great job.
	They're working hard.
	Everything starts with getting out and doing a good job and working hard.
	That's the basis of everything.
	And frankly, there are a lot of people who won't do that.
	There are a lot of people who want to sit around, expect things to be handed to them, expect to go and get a You know, a silly degree at, you know, some college.
	And then, you know, where's my $200,000 a year cushy job with a, you know, a stress room and a coffee bar and, you know, all this, the kind of stuff that Elon Musk cleared out at Twitter.
	You know, Elon Musk walked in, fired 80% of Twitter, and it's better, stronger, and more profitable than ever.
	Weird how that worked out.
	Yeah, and I think there's, You know, people say, well, there's not enough workers.
	Well, you know, if three or four million useless time servers weren't hacking it up as federal employees, you know, they could be doing other things.
	Plus, there are a lot of people sitting around not working with various excuses, including people who are, you know, Quote-unquote disabled.
	I'm quote-unquote disabled.
	I have a small disability rating from the VA, and I still work my tail off.
	I think you're making a point that the people who are working hard are setting the example and doing the right thing.
	Trump needs to find a way to reward that.
	I would say more than anything else, reward the people who are busting their butts and skew things back in their direction.
	Now that the Republicans are the populist party, we're the party of the people, we need to fix that.
	Look, the goal has to be, if you're a hardworking American who does the right thing, if you work hard and play by the rules, remember that?
	Yeah.
	Do the things that Bill Clinton pretended to want to do.
	And don't do the things that Bill Clinton did in the Oval Office.
	Well, he was really on to stuff.
	I mean, even for abortion.
	Safe, legal, and rare.
	While that's not maybe you and my opinion, you know, it is the opinion of a lot of not crazy, insane people.
	And it was very appealing.
	If we get back to the Republicans now being the party of the people, I think we can broaden the base.
	All right, we've got to take a break.
	break we will be back and we're going to continue this free-range uh warlords conversation after the break dude you know jeff - Yeah.
	Seb's producer?
	Do you know him?
	Yeah.
	The screw up in the beginning?
	What?
	Oh, the music?
	No, no, no.
	Dude, I'm not talking.
	I need to tell Kurt you're having 68 people at your house for Thanksgiving.
	Holy...
	What?
	68, man.
	I've never...
	I don't know anyone...
	I don't have 68 people I like enough to have dinner with.
	Fact.
	I don't think I have that many blood relatives a lot.
	That's a fact as well.
	You're just dealing with it, huh?
	But see, he's got the setup.
	He's got the big table in the house, and then he's got the pagoda out back.
	What is he, living in a Viking longhouse?
	Kind of.
	I have an open floor plan.
	What's your cheer?
	On to Valhalla!
	There's a lot of that there.
	He used to flip houses like that.
	Are you going to raid the neighbors?
	That's insane, man.
	My wife's mother is one of 11. So that's where it is.
	It all sprawls out.
	All right.
	Oh my gosh.
	I know.
	I can't.
	I am so tickled pink this time because we had...
	My birthday was last month and so my wife flew and my daughter conspired to fly her and her husband in for my birthday as a surprise, which was awesome.
	And the best part of that was, right, I didn't know, but I'm sitting in the house, I'm in the living room, and we're talking about going out to dinner.
	And then all of a sudden, I see Owen, my son-in-law.
	I see his head bopping past my front window.
	And my actual quote was, what the actual fuck?
	They were like, victory!
	We have achieved total victory.
	And then my parents got deposed out of Tampa for the hurricane right about then.
	So we had everybody in the house visiting for October, and they're coming back for Christmas.
	So Thanksgiving, my brother lives a mile away.
	It's him, me, and my wife, and we're doing rotisserie chicken from the grocery store.
	We're not even going to cook a thing.
	Nothing.
	Nothing.
	Well, Irina has decided that she is going to cook on the new oven, which you have to see.
	It's a nice oven.
	Gas or induction?
	So does it have red knobs?
	It does not have red knobs.
	It is not induction.
	It has silver and gold.
	Which is the theme.
	It's nice.
	But the Red Knobs is wolf.
	It is not wolf.
	I had to get rid of a wolf at my house.
	When we bought the house, it had a wolf range, but the oven didn't work.
	It was cracked somehow.
	And so Sam's like, I want an induction because it's sleek.
	And Kurt's talking about my house.
	My house is modern and sleek.
	It is so un-Uncle Jimbo.
	It is the last place my friends expect me to live.
	We bought a wolf for the Red Knobs.
	We never used it.
	I gotta tell you, this place, the way it's laid out, a very close friend of ours is the contractor-designer guy, and it is so comfortable.
	You walk in and you're like...
	It didn't quite work before.
	It's one of those few times where you say a flood is a good thing.
	Well, yeah.
	I mean, I took advantage of it and added on considerably.
	There you go.
	At my own expense.
	But I'm very happy with it.
	I come home and we're like...
	Ah!
	Yeah, that's a good feeling.
	I love it.
	At my house, I have so many spots where I like to sit every day.
	I migrate around the house.
	I know!
	Throughout the day.
	I'm sad in many of them.
	Yeah, it's fun.
	You know, life is good, man.
	I got a lot to be thankful for.
	So do you.
	Oh, this is a very...
	Thanksgiving is a very good holiday.
	Yes, it is.
	All right.
	15 hours.
	Welcome back to America First with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo.
	It's Jim Hansen.
	All right, we are continuing to rock the Warlords reunion here on America First Radio with Colonel Kurt Schlichter, author of the Kelly Turnbull series, The Attack, a bunch of other books and stuff.
	Kurt, you need merch.
	I think next we need t-shirts and hats.
	You working on that?
	You know, I did that before at Zazzle, and I had...
	It actually sold okay, and I went on to do other things, so I think that's a good idea, especially when the next Kelly Turnbull comes out, which is going to be a graphic novel.
	Oh, that's gonna be cool.
	And I don't know if I've shown you the picture.
	I will send it to you while we talk.
	Send it and we'll see if we can get it put up next segment.
	So yeah, dude.
	All right.
	So funny story about hats.
	So I'm in Okinawa and we go to Korea on one of the first deployments I went on overseas there.
	And we're shopping the black marketplace where they have all the stuff.
	And I see this really cool hat and it's a white hat and it looks like it's got a crosshairs and it looks like it's got Osama bin Laden or somebody in the crosshairs and I buy it.
	And I bring it back, and I think I'm cool because I got some terrorist killing hat and everything.
	And one of the black dudes in the unit, I get back home, he's like, dude, I had no idea you were down with Public Enemy.
	And I'm like...
	And it was just a really bad version of the Public Enemy logo that I thought was a terrorist in the crosshairs.
	And they're like, no, brother.
	Well, the terrorist is like this.
	Yeah, exactly.
	About to bust out a run.
	I had to play it off.
	I'm like, yeah, man, fear of a black planet, brother.
	Yes, I'm sure that you...
	I can rap, dude.
	Don't make me rap.
	I am always fighting the power.
	Dude, let's talk transition.
	Hold on.
	Do the Trump dance.
	Fight the power.
	There we go.
	All right.
	Talking Trump.
	Let's do transition.
	What's your favorite pick so far in the wartime cabinet?
	Wow.
	I like a lot of the picks.
	I think, dude, let's go with the easy one.
	I like Seb Gorka for Senior Director of Counterterrorism.
	Well, I especially like that one.
	I think that's genius.
	Pass Seb.
	All right, Seb.
	And if asked to be an aide or an assistant, pass.
	I like Hegseth.
	I think he's a good choice because he's a combat arms officer.
	Who knows how to take command.
	And we're not looking for another McNamara, right?
	We're not looking for a guy who's gonna go, well, the engineering flow diagram would go like this, and I think we can create efficiency.
	He's the guy who goes, hey dummies, you're either on board with no DEI or hit the bricks.
	Who's gonna be the first idiot?
	To pipe up about how he can't do what I just told you to do.
	Because let's get it done now.
	I'm going to cut your head off.
	I'm going to post it on a stick out in the middle of the freaking Pentagon parking lot.
	So he hasn't been super active on social media, but he reactivated.
	He didn't do...
	He's been active enough.
	Yeah, and I just saw one this morning where Libs of TikTok had posted this DEI general, three-star Air Force guy, saying, DEI is the way, it's this, it's that, and posted it, right?
	And Pete, quote, tweeted it with, nope.
	Yeah, very simple.
	That's all you had to say.
	Look, you and I are combat arms officers.
	I was infantry and cavalry.
	You were infantry and special forces.
	And there's a different mindset because they physically close with the enemy, right?
	So you kind of have to think a little different.
	And when you take command or when you take a position as the senior NCO, you're in the land of wolves.
	These guys will eat you alive if you show weakness.
	It's nothing personal.
	You've got to prove you're good enough, right?
	You've got to prove that you can do this.
	Because if you don't, they're just going to run all over you.
	So you walk in and you throw down.
	And I was the guy, I mean, I think I had two company command, three battalion command equivalents, deputy brigade commander and acting brigade commander.
	I mean, I commanded a lot.
	And I was the guy, the general always sent over to a Schlichter, go fix this unit.
	And, you know, you walk in.
	And you basically say, here's how it's going to be.
	And there's always somebody who says, well...
	I think different.
	And you just got to put him in a grave.
	I mean, it's not a command environment.
	No, it's Pete's going to go in and basically change the command environment from we need to find new ways to use the military as a social engineering laboratory back to we need to find better ways to scare the crap out of America's enemies.
	Yeah, if it doesn't lead to stacking bodies, I don't want to hear about it.
	There you go.
	And one of the keys to leadership is, at first, being unreasonable.
	That is, not letting people talk you out of what you want to do.
	Well, it can't be done.
	Okay?
	You're fired.
	Deputy, Can you do it?
	And boy, more often than not, the deputy goes, you know, I've got some ideas.
	And the deputy's always got ideas.
	And I think you hit on a key, though.
	Because in a big bureaucracy like that, everyone loves to know what you can't do.
	You know, they are 100% invested in the status quo because they understand it and they know how to work it to their advantage.
	So when you come in and kick over conference tables and spill everybody's rice bowls and all the other metaphors I'm going to mix...
	Like you said, you throw them off balance and you purposely put them in a position of saying, we're not going to do that anymore.
	It wasn't working.
	When was the last war we won?
	That's the first question I would walk in.
	Can somebody answer to me, when was the last war that America definitively won?
	And the answer is not a pleasant one.
	So I think if you start there, you've got something.
	I'm about to turn 60. Right?
	It's not a good thing.
	The thing is, there's always a guy who's going to tell you no.
	And I 100% guarantee, when you became a first sergeant, you went to the supply sergeant and said, why can't my guys get X item?
	And he had a long list of reasons why he couldn't do it.
	And you said, I don't care about any of that.
	If they don't have it by next drill, your life is going to be a living hell.
	And then they had it.
	Am I pretty much on how that's worked out?
	100%.
	Because like you said, it's a question.
	I love to be Mr. Nice Guy.
	I am not that scary guy.
	But I made sure to find something that pissed me off And I didn't become a first sergeant until I was in the National Guard.
	So everybody wants to come to a National Guard drill weekend and drink beer and play cards and shoot the stuff.
	And I had to make sure that in the course of doing that and making things fun, that somebody pissed me off.
	And then the rest of them heard me yelling about that.
	I would do it very tactically because I never thought it was my job as a commander to be emotional about something.
	So I had to fake it.
	And I remember one time we were deploying about 20 years ago.
	And the guy running the big command post exercise for the general was screwing up.
	They fired him.
	They said, Schlichter, please come in and fix this.
	And I looked around.
	And I said, okay, this person's gonna screw up.
	And within a half hour, it was an intel officer, she came up and gave me what I knew to be bad information.
	And I set her on fire in front of everybody else.
	I created cuss word combinations and conjunctions that eventually Command Sergeant Major came up and said, you know, sir, I'm impressed.
	If you have compressed the Command Sergeant Major with your profanity, you have accomplished something.
	Well, here's the thing.
	We got to jump out before you finish.
	We were on thrill for 15 more months.
	I never raised my voice again.
	And there you have it.
	It's about setting expectations early and making sure people know what is expected of them.
	All right.
	We'll be back with Colonel Kurt after the break with more of the Warlords on pretty much everything.
	If you got something you want us to talk about, hit us in the Rumble Chat.
	Dude, this we could do.
	We need to get this syndicated.
	This is just easy.
	It is.
	Oh, Seb just gave me grief about who's your number one MAGA pick.
	See, I kissed his ass.
	Come on, it's his show, dude.
	I'm sitting in the man's chair.
	It was easy.
	Getting a lump of coal for Christmas.
	Come on, man.
	It's not a guest host day if we go without someone trying to do an impersonation of Seb at least once.
	Oh, you know, that's true.
	Or if not Seb listening to at least a half hour of the show.
	Well, he told me he liked the smooch I gave him at the intro of last night or yesterday's show.
	Dude, he's earned it.
	Look, I don't have to kiss his butt.
	He knows that.
	I don't need anything from Sebastian.
	I don't need anything from Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
	There it is.
	There it is.
	All right.
	Now we got that.
	That blocks check.
	Jeff sent me his stuff.
	It's insane.
	Look at this thing.
	This table.
	Holy Christ!
	Right?
	I told a dude I've never seen those stuff.
	Well, you know what the best part is?
	It's supposed to rain tomorrow.
	So everyone's going to be inside.
	Oh, man.
	Well, it's going to rain in some parts of your place and not in others.
	Some parts are in the desert.
	Some parts are a tropical rainforest.
	Different climates.
	He's got 10 turkeys.
	Ten turkeys?
	Ten turkeys.
	Marina's driving me crazy about one.
	Right.
	She's like, we've got to dry brine it.
	I'm like, I don't know if that's a two-man job.
	Apparently it is.
	By the way, I had no idea.
	And I'm the two man.
	Who was your guest yesterday about the frozen chicken?
	How it'll explode?
	Oh, yeah, that was Crittenden.
	Yeah.
	Crit's a dangerous guy.
	He's South African, man.
	You know, he's a South African raised in Bangkok who was in Army Special Forces.
	There's so much bad in that.
	He knows how to turn frozen chicken into a deadly weapon.
	Seriously.
	Now I have to try it.
	I am going to do that and film it at some point.
	This is why I don't fry chickens or turkeys.
	Yeah, I mean, it's a thing.
	I've done it successfully.
	I gave the advice yesterday.
	So if you don't know, you have to have a thawed turkey.
	And if you're smart, you put the turkey in, you pour the oil over it, so you know where the level is.
	Right?
	Then you take the turkey out.
	Because what you don't want, you don't want the boil over.
	So there you go.
	Free advice.
	See?
	See, that's smart.
	Well, I had seen the videos of the people blowing themselves up and burning stuff.
	And I'm like, I'm not going to be that guy.
	Where would I do that at my place?
	Out on the freaking driveway?
	I don't think so.
	That would be fun.
	You make friends with your neighbors that way.
	I can just see freaking the local fire department rolling up.
	You need to get like me and start using your front driveway as a place to aggravate your neighbors because I love nothing more than sitting out in the front of my house on top of the Sprinter van smoking cigars while the little people walk past on the sidewalk.
	I've got three Adirondack chairs out there.
	See?
	And Irina's getting the turf revised.
	We'll just sit out there and just critique people walking by.
	All right.
	I'm in.
	Yeah.
	Do you want to do the ad read here or the next segment?
	Let's do it here so I don't forget it.
	Thanks for reminding me.
	No problem.
	We're not going to do the audio.
	No.
	That's fine.
	That's fine.
	Just the read.
	Yep.
	Thank you.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	This is America First, and I'm delighted to welcome our special guest host, Jim Hansen.
	All right.
	Thanksgiving Eve is going swimmingly here.
	We'll be checking back in with Colonel Kurt.
	But first, I want to remind people that tomorrow is Thanksgiving Day.
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	All right, back with Colonel Kurt.
	Hey, I want to see, what do you think we should do to these sanctuary city-style mayors who say they are going to oppose, not just be angry about and stomp their feet, they're going to actively deploy their police forces and other things to stop the deportation program when it kicks in?
	Well, look, I think a lot of it's just big talk by...
	Dumb people.
	But, you know, at some point, they're going to obstruct federal law.
	And, you know, if we've learned anything over the last few years, Jim Hansen, it is that we cannot tolerate insurrection.
	I've had that pounded into my head.
	Look, the new rules.
	And I think it'll take...
	Look, we've got to be strategic about who literally gets arrested.
	But, you know, let's see what happens.
	And I mean, that's a hell of a lot.
	You know, stomping around carrying Nancy Pelosi's lectern is a lot less insurrection-y than actually opposing the sitting President of the United States order to deport illegal aliens from this country.
	I mean, that's really, really on the line there.
	Well, we're not even talking about merely opposing.
	You can get out and say, I think this is a bad idea.
	But, you know, our democracy demands that when someone who is elected by, you know, a winner of the important and very, very real national popular vote It takes an action.
	If you unlawfully interfere with it, why, that's insurrection.
	And look, I think years in jail is appropriate.
	You just literally took an entire segment from Rachel Maddow.
	That was Rachel Maddow's show.
	You just literally, that was a whole segment of her show, and you repeated it, and guess what?
	It's going to apply.
	You've said this, and you were the one of the first people.
	Let me throw these on first.
	There you go, the Rachel Maddow glasses.
	But you said it early on, and I think it was always apt.
	They're not going to like it when we make them play by these new rules that they invented.
	We didn't want them.
	We fought them tooth and nail not to create this thing where we do the use of government power to crush the little man.
	Well, guess what?
	When you decide that's the way the game is played, payback's a medevac.
	Look, I think it has to be strategic.
	You don't want to do it in, say, Washington, D.C. You want to do it, say, in Colorado, where the federal district court is going to include more than just communists.
	DC you do it in there and I'm sure that actually the gangs might join in and you might have an actual shooting fighting insurrection which we don't need.
	That's a fun one.
	They've lost once in their attempt to create a servile slave class to labor for them.
	They'll lose again.
	I'm 100% fine with them losing.
	And I think bringing the fight to them is something that we have never done.
	You know, we've talked about it.
	It's always been the right campaigns, you know, like savages, like Judge Dredd, you know, and governs like Little Miss Muffet sitting on her tuffet.
	We're seeing it now.
	We're seeing from appointments, including, well, our own Dr. Seb Gorka.
	It's going to be a fighting cabinet.
	That drove them insane.
	And they're going to get crazier.
	We've got to jump out.
	Hold on.
	Keep that thought.
	Well, here are some people who don't like him.
	Oh, well, we better not.
	And Trump's like, to hell with you.
	Yeah, you know, and we'll get more of that.
	All right, hey, we got to take another break, but we got more.
	We got another almost 20 minutes of the warlords running rampant on your radio.
	Back after the break.
	All right.
	I want to make sure we get a chance to talk about how they're not using the FBI. Oh, that's beautiful.
	That's huge.
	Savage.
	That's savage and amazing.
	I love it.
	Yes, let's jump right into that.
	New norms, man.
	There's a new normal, and we're just adapting to it.
	Look, I mean, I don't want to waste the gold.
	Yeah, no, we'll talk about it.
	Let's go back to mocking Jeff for his giant family gathering.
	I'm not mocking him.
	I'm freaking impressed.
	Arena's about having a coronary just cooking for one, two, three, four, five of us.
	Yeah.
	No, I swear, we're not cooking anything.
	I've got a frozen key lime pie.
	Nice.
	And it was a good one.
	It was handmade by the lady at our butcher shop does key lime pies as a sideline.
	So we did that, and then we're just going to go buy a rotisserie chicken, three people.
	I like how you have a butcher shop.
	Dude, you gotta have that for a good time.
	Is your rotisserie chicken dry-aged?
	The rotisserie chicken is not dry-aged.
	I cheated.
	I promised these guys I had one steak left from Sunday when we killed the big prime rib that I took out of the ager at 45 days.
	Oh yeah, it was awesome.
	But I put it on the counter and then I forgot it and I screwed these guys.
	I'm a horrible person.
	I am.
	I can live with me though.
	I can live with me.
	I did fillets in New York's last Thursday here, my style, and they were unbelievable.
	You guys gotta get back out here.
	Dude, we're trying, you know, we got things to do.
	We're making sure our team gets in place here.
	Well, that's true.
	Actually, it's a good time to be in the swamp.
	There's not many times where I would say it's a good time to be in the swamp.
	This is one of them.
	Are you going to the inauguration?
	Yeah, I've got to figure out who I know who can get me a ticket.
	I don't know if I'm going to go to the inauguration.
	I don't care about the inauguration itself.
	I want to go to one of the balls because that will make Sam happy.
	She can put on some of her fancy, you know...
	Oh yeah, she's got a few clothes.
	She's got a few clothes.
	What's funny is the stuff that Jill Biden, you know, that she used to wear and people would say, did you get that off your grandmother's front porch because it looks like upholstery?
	A lot of that stuff was Dolce& Gabbana.
	She just made it look awful.
	And that's how bad I am.
	My life is so awful that I literally recognized the designer clothes that Jill Biden was making look awful because I know that stuff now.
	And Sam's got some cool stuff she wants to bring out.
	So we're going to find a ball to go to.
	You guys should come out for that.
	No, I don't want to come out.
	Well, first of all, I'll be at my arm in a sling.
	Oh, that's right.
	You're broken.
	I'll be looking like I'm permanently giving a Roman salute.
	Crippled old guy.
	I love it.
	I'm old too, dude.
	We're old.
	It's cool.
	I'm good with it now.
	I was mad.
	I feel good, man.
	Dude, I turned 60, so it made me mad.
	No, I was pissed.
	I didn't want to turn 60 because then you have to answer.
	People say, how old are you?
	And you have to answer.
	And I didn't want to do that.
	I don't know why.
	It pissed me off.
	And then I figured out, and it was actually my daughter and her hubby, who I am very fond of, they asked Sam, what are you getting him for his 60th birthday?
	And she said, he doesn't want anything.
	He's all mad.
	He doesn't want to party.
	And then they're like, well, does he have a watch he wants?
	I'm like, I can extort an expensive watch out of this?
	Like, hell yeah.
	So I got the beauty.
	Oh my god, how can I run up the score?
	Right?
	Look at that!
	Oh yeah, it's a beauty.
	It's Breitling.
	Oh man.
	It's a sweet one.
	It's December 24th for me.
	All right.
	Welcome back to America First with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo.
	It's Jim Hansen.
	Hi there.
	Hey, Thanksgiving Eve.
	The warlord's rocking it.
	And I want to ask you a question, Kurt.
	I've heard all these appointments by Donald Trump are a bunch of criminals and reprobates, and they probably all have outstanding war crimes.
	So I'm sure that we're going to entrust their background checks to the most impartial agency in In the federal government, the FBI, correct?
	You know, Jim, the thing I saw that gave me the most hope—and I've got a lot of hope, and there are a lot of things I saw that gave me hope—the thing that gave me the most hope was the story that said, yeah, Donald Trump's just going to give security clearances to all his employees and all his staff, and then the FBI can come back and essentially tell him why to withhold—to withdraw them.
	But— It used to be that the FBI would go in and do their background checks and they would slow walk it and they would lie and attempt to screw up the transition by not allowing people to have the security clearances that they need to do the job.
	Donald Trump is now exercising power in a new way.
	He's saying, no, I give security clearances.
	I'm the executive.
	All executive authority derived from me.
	So I am ordering that they have security clearances.
	And if you find something like, oh, here's some photographs of him with Fang Fang and Eric Swalwell in a little three-way action, yeah, we'll can him.
	But until then, no.
	See, this is a consequence of losing your credibility.
	Yep.
	They earned it.
	When you go and attempt to undermine the administration and frame the president, we stop trusting you.
	If you set fire to the norms, you don't have norms.
	You have ashes.
	Well, and now the nice thing is that he literally said that we will wait until our people are in the FBI. So you can go ahead and move out the people and lay down the law and say, here's what you're going to do.
	You got a month.
	I want all these background checks done in a month.
	And I want them on my desk.
	And if you want to go ahead and attack my appointees, understand.
	If it's legit, we'll deal with it.
	But we're not playing your games because they got beat on that last time.
	There's so many things they learned from the mistakes of last time that I'm loving the attitude coming in now.
	Well, I think they have to take it forward.
	I'll probably write a town hall column on it.
	If I was President Trump, I would say, as the chief executive, No one in law, no one in the federal government will conduct any investigation of any member of my administration or any politically adjacent people without the express permission of my Attorney General.
	Nice.
	The authority to conduct that has been withdrawn from you.
	I will delegate it only to the Attorney General.
	You will not do it without permission.
	If you wish to investigate Robert F. Kennedy, you will go to the Attorney General, explain why you think you should.
	If the Attorney General believes there's merit to it, he'll let you continue.
	And if he believes it's yet another attempt to frame a political opponent, He will not.
	Because you have, first of all, the idea that federal law enforcement is some sort of independent agency, unaccountable to the executive, is a non-starter.
	That is not a thing.
	It's not in the Constitution, and I have read that thing before I raised my hand.
	Nor should it be.
	And it won't be.
	Somebody who's elected has to answer for what the executive officers do.
	And that's the president.
	So the president's the boss.
	He's the guy who has the responsibility.
	And of course, The New York Times, Washington Post, the three networks, to the extent anyone still watches them, will scream and yell, oh my gosh, you're covering up for corruption.
	No, we're preventing corruption.
	Stopping abuse of power.
	Yeah, and here's the thing.
	If you spend federal resources on something that is not authorized, that is a federal crime.
	Nice.
	I would run the permission through the Office of the Department of Justice U.S. Attorney in the Northern District of Texas.
	There you go.
	Not the D.C. Home Court.
	You must report to the Northern District of Texas, and then they will report to me.
	So if you violate this, there's an argument that you have violated federal law.
	In the venue of the Northern District of Texas, as opposed to Washington, D.C., and you'll be prosecuted there.
	Yeah, let's go farther.
	Let's shut down the U.S. attorney in D.C., the House prosecutor and the home team who has been abusing power.
	And, you know, you can't get a decent trial.
	No one on the right side of the court could get a decent trial.
	I think a minimum requirement is the pardon of every single J-6 defendant.
	I don't mean some of them.
	I mean every single one of them.
	Immediately.
	100% pardon.
	And then settle their civil lawsuits with them.
	I think you call the payments reparations just to make heads explode.
	Let's call them reparations to make the heads explode on the left when we pay them.
	Now the other thing we can do is security clearances go two ways.
	They can be revoked.
	All the people who were lying, cheating, and stealing, the 51 intelligence officials and scumbags, a lot of them hold clearances and make money off their clearances.
	Having abused that to go ahead and lie about the president, you are no longer authorized to see classified information, chump.
	51, done.
	And there's more.
	I think there's a lot of people.
	Millie, gone, done.
	I want Millie back.
	I want to bring Millie back.
	Is that worth doing about China?
	About that China phone call?
	First of all, I want Trump to see the readout.
	And I want his people to look at the readout and see if he actually, what was said, and if it rises to level, I think you pull some stars from him.
	Well, look, I think he definitely has to look at the appropriate retirement level for some of these people.
	You know, they went and got Ronnie Jackson, who was a general or an admiral, and they took his star.
	Essentially, he retired him as a colonel because they didn't like that he became a Republican congressman, outspoken conservative.
	I would fix that.
	You know, if I was Pete Hegseth, I would say, I want the order restoring his retirement as admiral on my desk before I leave today.
	I'm leaving at five.
	And that's not the only one.
	There's plenty of those.
	You point to the chief of staff or personnel and said, you do this.
	And then he immediately says, well, it's not my job.
	You see, he said...
	You do this.
	It's executive authority and command authority are amazing things to get people's attention and you can use them for the power of good, you know, and you can abuse them.
	And this is the thing.
	They're going to accuse us of being the ones abusing them when literally we are responding to and fixing their abuse of power.
	So, all right, we got one more question.
	Round of fun and joy and vibing with Colonel Kurt before we get to the news at the top of the hour.
	So we're going to take a break now, and then we're going to come back, and the warlords are going to bring it home strong on Thanksgiving Eve doing America First Radio.
	I would have won my six-period.
	That was nice.
	What was the reason they gave Ronnie Jackson for doing that?
	I didn't even hear about that.
	I don't remember.
	Something ridiculous.
	The thing is, we have to use our power ruthlessly to correct wrongs.
	And that's why I'm so for the...
	Guys, we can't let them win.
	It drives me crazy, because some people I like a lot...
	Are like, well, you know, let's let the DACA guys stay.
	No!
	You don't allow people to break the law and benefit from it.
	Because then there's no law.
	And I know it's nice.
	And I understand the heart strings being pulled.
	But there's either the law or there isn't.
	And you can't say...
	You're going to feel the full effect of the law, you American citizen, but you're not because feelings.
	And it's setting the exam.
	If you don't want to do it again.
	Now, here's the nice thing about it.
	If you just start with the attitude that we're going to do this, self-deportations will crank all the way up.
	Yes.
	You know, as soon as you start opening club, whatever they're going to call it, we need a name for it.
	It can't be Club Gitmo.
	The spa, the salon, the camp in Texas.
	It needs a good name.
	Rumblechatters, come on.
	We need a good name.
	The transit camp in Texas needs a name.
	Gitmo North.
	You know, whatever.
	Transit Station Alpha through Zulu.
	Alright, we need to work on this.
	Azteca camp.
	Huh?
	Azteca camp.
	That's kind of fun.
	Kicking the Azteca outing.
	Look, I mean, you either have a law or you don't.
	I don't understand.
	The idea that, well, we got together and found out that the law we passed, the procedures in the Constitution, has effects that some of us find wrong.
	Harsh.
	So we'll ignore the procedures in the Constitution and just kind of go with our feels.
	No!
	Yeah, we're not going to do that.
	Yeah, you want DACA? We're going to bring the pain.
	Go convince people.
	There's a Congress right there.
	Go convince them.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Hey, I want to talk about...
	Maybe we'll do it.
	I'll talk about Biden's people sabotaging Trump on the way out, the Ukraine stuff, the holding out supplies for the Israelis.
	Oh, and we're not going to cooperate with you until you sign this bogus ethics agreement.
	Yeah, no.
	Did you see that?
	Yep, they are.
	And Trump's like, okay.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	This is America First.
	and I'm delighted to welcome our special guest host, Jim Hansen.
	Right on.
	All right, we're finishing the Warlords reunion hour show Thanksgiving Eve.
	Colonel Kurt Schlichter, author of the Kelly Turnbull series, The Attack, six million other books and stuff, soon to have merch again.
	And Kurt, I want to talk last thing, is the Biden team seems to be trying to rat-screw The Trump administration by pulling some stuff, giving Zelensky the opportunity to start World War III, cutting down, slowing down ammo shipments to the Israelis, other stuff like that.
	Is this an organized plan?
	Are they actually putting themselves in jeopardy?
	Are there consequences for the stuff they're doing?
	Look, I think they're just stupid.
	There's that.
	The problem is we have intensely stupid and incompetent people Who have never been held accountable before, so they have no fear of accountability, plus believe themselves to be infallible because they got participation trophies for being the last guy picked for dodgeball.
	So this is, you know, I mean, everything they do is stupid.
	I think people are getting around some of it.
	Smart people like Netanyahu Yeah, let's take a 60-day ceasefire.
	I will give my guys a breather after 14 months.
	I'll still attack them anytime I see a target, even though there's a ceasefire.
	I know Trump's coming, and he'll send me some ammo.
	And Trump's coming.
	He'll stop sending it to Zelensky and send it to me, and we can kill actual terrorists with it.
	And I guess that's a workaround.
	I just wonder, can...
	Is there something they need to do?
	They don't have any authority.
	We just got to probably do a good audit of all this stuff before, you know, when Trump takes power to see who did what.
	And I wouldn't mind catching Blinken and Sullivan and some of these guys violating.
	Well, I wouldn't either.
	I think day one, you say, look, the inauguration's at noon.
	At 1 p.m., I'm going to be at the Department of Departments, and I want all the department heads there to brief me on exactly what they've done in the last 90 days.
	I'm telling you now, a month ahead of time, so you can't go, I was surprised.
	That's what I'm going to order at 1 o'clock on Inauguration Day.
	So you better be ready, and somebody there won't be ready, and I'm going to fire him.
	Elon and Vivek then is the Bobs from office space, right?
	We offered to do that at the Pentagon, but I think we've been superseded.
	Now that Elon and Vivek and Elon tweeted out that they are the Bobs, that happens on inauguration day.
	It's a whole new ballgame.
	I want them to look at big picture stuff.
	The smaller stuff, you know, hey, transsexual ferret studies at the University of College, you know, $200,000.
	That's important, but that's small.
	I want systemic stuff.
	Like, hey, did you know we give $150 billion a year to leftist NGOs?
	Yeah.
	Let's stop doing that.
	Well, that's good.
	Let's hope they go big.
	All right.
	Well, that's going to wrap up the Warlord Reunion Hour.
	It has been a pleasure to have my good buddy, Colonel Kurt Schlichter, at Kurt Schlichter on Twitter X and all over Amazon with all his cool books you should already own.
	But if you don't buy them, because Kurt's going to make a million dollars selling books to the world.
	That's the plan.
	All right, we will be back after the Salem News folks give you some information with the final hour of Thanksgiving Eve America First Radio.
	I hit that out at zero, zero, zero, zero.
	My last syllable was at the zeros.
	Perfect.
	I get a bonus.
	Hey, Salem, you owe me extra money for actually hitting the zeros.
	It's like Elon's rocket landing.
	Yeah, I caught that out with my chopsticks.
	Brother, that was fun.
	That was a good hour, man.
	It goes fast.
	That's the fun thing, you know?
	I'm telling you.
	All right, we got open negotiations as to who gets to syndicate the Warlords show when we crank this up.
	Well, gosh, I know that they've got some space in the Salem lineup.
	Just saying.
	You know, I've got toys I could put back there.
	It could be MSNBC. That's a good idea.
	It actually could.
	Elon would probably go, yeah, we're having the Warlords Hour every night at 8. Oh my gosh.
	I might actually...
	Have you been on MSNBC? No, I've never been on MSNBC. And I have been on CNN for 10 years, December 22nd, after I got kicked off from Don Lemon for pointing out how twice...
	How Hillary Clinton let her husband use his intern as a humidor.
	And he said, you can't say that.
	So I said again, he kicked me off.
	Yeah, no, Jeff, I was on MSNBC with Rachel Maddow.
	It was after the Don't Ask, Don't Tell, right?
	Yeah, I had written a thing about Don't Ask, Don't Tell, and she had me on.
	And here's the best part of it.
	I actually got her to giggle like a schoolgirl because she wasn't out yet.
	All right.
	She hadn't come out yet.
	Everybody knew, but she wasn't out.
	And so during the show, she asked me, so, Jim, you know, why do you think the military is ready to have gays serve openly?
	I said, well, Don't Ask, Don't Tell was always gay.
	You know, it was just ridiculous.
	You can be gay in the military.
	You just can't pretend you're not.
	Yeah, we knew.
	So I said, that was stupid.
	It's a stupid policy.
	And I said, I don't know if you know this, Rachel, but there are gay people everywhere.
	Some of them even have their own cable TV news shows.
	And she goes, and giggled.
	And then she goes, oh no.
	And then she shook her head no when she figured out she had literally just outed herself on TV. It's one of my greatest moments.
	I'm literally.
	I can't believe there's a time she wasn't out.
	I mean, that might be the worst.
	Have you seen her high school picture?
	Yeah, she was cute.
	She was mid?
	Yeah, she was cute.
	I mean, not good enough for you or me.
	Late night at the party, you know, too many shots, whatever.
	Bad choices.
	Right.
	She might hagseth it.
	Oh, buddy.
	I haven't seen Jim laugh that hard in a long time.
	Oh, boy.
	I was on with Stagall today, this morning, and it occurred to me, I said, you know, the idea that a guy who looks like Pete hagseth, and I'm not an expert on the male form, Needs to roofie chicks.
	Yeah, that's just not passing mustard.
	Have you seen Pete Hegseth?
	Pete's cute.
	He's pretty.
	He's a good-looking guy.
	He's a good-looking cat.
	On the National Heroes Tour, we kept stealing his hair gel.
	So that's one of the things we do.
	He'd have these big things of hair gel.
	And every time he'd check into a hotel or any place, we'd steal his hair gel, and he'd be like, God damn it!
	I didn't need it.
	I read that report, and I've done this for 30 years.
	And I gotta say, I have rarely read a report of an alleged sexual abuse that is more transparently bogus, in my opinion...
	Come on, when you get busted on a booty call.
	I mean, you just look at it, it's just like, of course they didn't charge this.
	Well, here's the deal.
	How about she was blacked out before she got to the room, remembers everything in the room, then she was blacked out after she went to the room.
	Weird.
	But she was sober when she got to her husband.
	Huh.
	Yeah, which is the point.
	And I love how her husband sent her a text saying...
	My gosh, when's the last time you were out at 2 a.m.?
	I'm just like...
	The punchline he wrote for the bulwark.
	No, no, no.
	That's always the punchline.
	That is always the punchline.
	Yeah, we went a whole hour there, Kurt, making a bulwark wedding night joke.
	No, he did.
	On the way in.
	No, I did at the beginning.
	During the very beginning, he did.
	I said 10 seconds.
	He says, that's enough time for a bulwark wedding night.
	But during the campaign, you should have changed those to white dudes for Harris.
	You should have swapped out the bulwark for the white dudes for Harris.
	Is there a difference?
	Those jokes are masculine.
	The bulwark guys are white dudes for Harris.
	Yeah, there's a Venn diagram of two circles is white dudes for Harris and the bulwark.
	That was still the greatest joke Trump told the Al Smith dinner was, white dudes for Harris, their wives and their wives' lovers will be voting for me.
	Right.
	Oh, my God.
	That was savage.
	Give that in turn as he wrote that joke.
	Oh, too good.
	Oh, my gosh.
	He's the freaking best.
	Yeah.
	All right, we got to dial Ben.
	I got to hang up on Kurt.
	All right, Kurt.
	Thanks, Kurt.
	Later.
	When I mentioned the whole seven-personation thing, too, I think you missed it because Kurt did a little seven-personation at the start of that break.
	Oh, did he?
	That's why I said that, yeah, because he did a little.
	And I was like, oh, there it is.
	You have to.
	When I was talking to Tony Abbott at that thing, I did my Crocodile Dundeex.
	I said, that's not a knife.
	This is a knife.
	I'll never unhear us.
	We're connected, but we have a black screen.
	Can you hear us, Ben?
	I can hear you.
	Can you hear me?
	Yeah, we can't see you.
	We can't see you.
	What the heck?
	What on earth?
	It's enabled, but it's a black screen.
	Are you, um...
	Did you pick up on your laptop or yourself?
	Oh, there you are.
	Hey, that looks like Ben Baird.
	One minute.
	Right on.
	Okay, we're a minute out.
	Glad we can do this, man.
	We got two segments, so we can do this, and we'll start with 94, 95, and then anything else you want to hit on, let's do it.
	We can talk, you know, the ceasefire or anything else.
	So whatever floats your boat, man.
	This is free range.
	I just did an hour with Kurt Schlichter, and we went berserk, man.
	So anything normal is free.
	You know what I mean?
	It'll look normal in comparison.
	30 seconds. 15 seconds.
	Eric, come mics.
	Welcome back to America First with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo.
	It's Jim Hansen.
	All right.
	Hey, we're in the final hour of the Thanksgiving Eve show here on America First Radio.
	And I want to bring in a friend and a colleague from the Middle East Forum.
	He runs the Middle East Forum's action section, which is good because he's a vet like a lot of us.
	And Benjamin Baird, welcome to the show, Ben.
	Uncle Jimbo.
	Great to be here.
	Right on.
	Hey, listen, there's a thing you have been working on.
	And just to give folks an idea, Middle East Forum is a group I work with.
	It's a 501c3, does some of the best work, academically rigorous, you know, deep intellectual pursuit of the actual truth about what happens in the Middle East in the course of formulating good policy and good strategy that supports Western civilization triumphing over the Islamists.
	So Ben's the pointy end of the spear on this.
	So, he works with Congress and other folks and tries to turn that into action.
	Now, one of the things that you've been working on is a bill to go ahead and make it easier to strip the tax-exempt status of charities that are helping the bad guys.
	We have proof at Middle East Forum.
	Our colleague Sam Westrop did some tremendous work finding U.S. charities that are raising money ostensibly to help kids in Gaza that end up funneling the money through multiple steps to end up helping Hamas.
	You know, not directly buying bombs and guns for them, but helping them in ways that should be called material support.
	So how does HR 94-95 Go ahead and make it better for our ability to stop stuff like that.
	Right, so right now you have the IRS code, the Internal Revenue Code, which does allow the government to shut down misbehaving charities.
	But it relies on terrorist designations that come from other places, right?
	Like the State Department's Foreign Terrorist Organization designation, Or the U.N.'s designations or the Treasury Department.
	But this would empower the secretary of the Treasury himself to strip the tax-exempt status from 501C nonprofit organizations to say, look, what you're doing does not fall within the realm of what tax-free donations were intended to go to.
	And so we're going to take that away from you.
	There's no reason that A nonprofit should be able to have tax benefits, be able to allow people that give them money to have tax write-offs of any kind.
	This has been a problem for many, many years.
	Post 9-11, we actually did something about it in this country.
	For years, there were counterterrorism, terror finance prosecutions that went after domestic nonprofits and did really good work.
	There was the Holy Land Foundation case back in 2007. That shut down the largest Muslim nonprofit here in the United States.
	It was called the Holy Land Foundation.
	It sent five very bad actor criminal terror financiers to jail for as long as 65 years.
	But since that time, in the wake of 9-11, the Treasury Department has stopped paying attention to domestic nonprofits almost altogether.
	Jonathan Schanzer, who was a former Treasury Department official, I think we have testified during a recent House Ways and Means Committee hearing to say that the Treasury Department doesn't even look at domestic nonprofits any longer.
	And so there needs to be a law that empowers the Treasury Department, that encourages them to do this, that takes away any sort of red tape or roadblocks that gets in the way.
	But that also provides due process protections and civil liberty protections.
	Let me ask you a question.
	I've heard the complaints about this, and that's where they go.
	They say, oh my gosh, you guys are genning up some new executive power where the Secretary of the Treasury is going to politically target people.
	You know, sensitive groups just probably because they're Muslim and the Trump administration is going to hate Muslims, and they're going to do this in a way that there's no recourse.
	You know, this is just going to be a way to punish groups that the political right and the Trump administration doesn't like, which is really the left just projecting what they've been doing for a long time onto the Trump administration.
	But there are some pretty strict safeguards about what has to happen before this does.
	You know, the power starts With the Treasury Secretary, but they have option or ability to challenge this and get it adjudicated, correct?
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Under current law, they do not have that power.
	So this actually grants nonprofits more protections than currently exist when they're being accused of supporting terrorism.
	It's a three-layer appeals process.
	First, the Secretary of the Treasury has to notify groups that they're having their tax-exempt status stripped.
	And then they can make an appeal with the Secretary of the Treasury.
	If this doesn't work, they can go to the IRS Independent Office of Appeals.
	And if that doesn't work, they can finally go to an independent U.S. District Court and fight it out there.
	So there's a lot of talk, even from elected officials who have criticized this bill, saying that there's nothing that they can do, that this is a crackdown on political enemies.
	And look, these come from a good place.
	If you remember, during the Obama administration, the IRS was weaponized and used to go after Republican groups.
	Oh, I remember.
	Tea Party organizations, any group that had Patriot in its name, they subjected them to increased auditing.
	And so it comes from a good place.
	However, this is an increase in due process protections.
	If you look at the tax code, 501P has no judicial oversight, no sorts of proceedings whatsoever, no appeals process when it comes to right now labeling a group as a terrorist or terrorist supporting group.
	So this is an improvement.
	And any suggestion that it's anything else is purely partisan.
	In fact, there was a great deal of Democratic support for this bill until Donald Trump was elected.
	And after he was elected, more and more, as we voted on this bill and versions of it over and over again in the House, more and more Democrats have fallen off.
	And that's because that they're pushing this nonsense that this is going to be used to punish political enemies of the president.
	They weren't worried about that under Biden, but suddenly under Trump, they're concerned.
	Yeah, like I said, it's projection.
	When you start with projection, you generally get to what's going on when accusations are flying from the political left.
	I want to talk about another thing that I think we could use some action on here in my hometown swamp, and that is the Hamas mobs.
	Now, we have had a year plus of Hamas mobs all over, destroying statues, stopping students from attending class, intimidating Jewish students from even going on campus, creating an environment where violence was, if not happening, at least threatened and possible.
	Is there a way we can go ahead and get some kind of action at that, you know, the funders?
	We know who's doing it.
	It's the usual suspects.
	It's the Soros groups.
	And a lot of it is not even the Islamist groups.
	It's the left revolutionaries just using this as their current thing excuse.
	What can we do about that?
	Right.
	Well, first of all, passing 94-95 would be helpful in this regard, because groups like American Muslims for Palestine, which has come under the crosshair of Congress recently, they are fiscal sponsors of Students for Justice in Palestine, which is the main group that is behind many of these violent anti-Semitic protests that you see But you don't even need to pass a new law.
	The government can shut down nonprofits that are involved with funding these violent activities simply because they are not educational or they are not being organized for their tax-exempt status, the reasons why they get their tax-exempt status.
	So when a nonprofit isn't educational and it doesn't further the public good, they can take away that kind of funding.
	And that's what they should do for groups that are actively standing behind and supporting these violent student or sometimes non-student protests that are happening across the country.
	They do.
	They've got rent-a-mobs.
	They've got essentially the same groups that they're bussing around from campus to campus.
	Oh, there's a statue over here.
	It's an old white guy.
	We can go ahead and deface that.
	They did it in Lafayette Square across from the White House.
	The George Washington University here in D.C., they went ahead and put a keffiyeh and hung a Palestinian flag on the founder of our country.
	I'm sorry, that's not...
	Okay, I place free speech as much as anybody else, but this is an organized conspiracy to intimidate people into getting what they want, and that's not free speech.
	No, and the other half of this is that a lot of this anti-Semitic radicalization that is happening On campuses across this country, it's being imported from foreign places, places like Qatar, Turkey, Iran.
	These are places that are funding American colleges through massive grants and endowments and oftentimes not reporting these to authorities.
	Or they're using, they're getting through red tape And so Congress has put forward something called the Deterrent Act that would lower the reporting threshold for donations coming from foreign bad actors.
	It would lower to zero for countries like Qatar.
	Look, schools that take Middle East money have been shown to have 250% more anti-Semitic acts than schools that do not.
	So that's a problem.
	I want to dig into that, because Qatar has run some major influence operations, and I want to talk about those with you after the break.
	So we're going to go to some commercials right now, and we'll be back with Ben Baird, director of MEF Action.
	I'm Jim Hansen.
	And we're doing America First Radio.
	What was that bumper music?
	That was like halfway between, what, Soul Train and Bad?
	We played a lot.
	It was.
	I don't even know what it was.
	It was a little funky.
	That's from Seb's lineup.
	I don't remember what it is.
	I mean, seriously, I saw the dudes in the bell bottoms with the horn section dancing.
	You know, that's what I was feeling right there.
	It's not from a TV show, is it?
	I think that might be a TV show theme.
	I don't know.
	I've been enjoying the Skinner most of the show.
	That's nice.
	You never go wrong with Skinner.
	So, Ben, how you doing, man?
	Not bad.
	Staying busy.
	Yeah, you know, there's never a dull moment.
	I'm a little hopeful, as I bet you can imagine, about what we can accomplish coming up here because we're going to have some open doors, man.
	So let's talk early next week and do some scheming because I can tell you what I can tell you, but what I can tell you is we got friends.
	Yeah, that's great.
	And it's great to have friends.
	It was Streets of San Francisco.
	Streets of San Francisco.
	Oh, man!
	Is that the song or a band?
	I don't even know what that is.
	That was a TV show.
	It was a cop show.
	Way old school.
	Yeah, that's a way old school cop show.
	Wow.
	Yeah, they had...
	You know that street in San Francisco?
	They did one of the jumps over the one that you can jump cars off of going downhill?
	That was their opening.
	Oh, yes.
	Same story from The Rock, I imagine, where they did the big old Hummer.
	Oh, that's right.
	That was a good one.
	Everybody wants to jump their car off that thing.
	I bet they pay half the taxes for the city just off charging movies.
	Why not?
	That windy road.
	Yeah, in the remake, they break into Paul Pelosi's house.
	Oh, you know, screw that guy.
	Last time I was in San Francisco, I drove through about five or six blocks before I realized that the lights, the stoplights, were on the side of the road and not hanging above them.
	So I was just going through red light after red light.
	Oh yeah!
	Fight the power, man.
	Oh, that's funny.
	Your laws do not apply to me.
	Right.
	That's a crazy place, man.
	I don't know.
	San Francisco is one of those places that's probably worth, you know, if you could empty it and start again, it'd be worth keeping, but you'd have to empty it.
	We were watching, have you seen a show Bosch?
	It's based on the old detective novels.
	It's a good show.
	They got Tiny Woke for a minute, but it's just an entertaining show.
	But the guy's house is up in the Hollywood Hills.
	Got the view.
	He's got the glass wall, just looking back at the city.
	My wife's from Bakersfield.
	She's like, I would live there.
	And I'm like, I would live in that house if it had a helipad.
	And then my helicopter could take me where I want to go.
	But I'm not going to drive through LA traffic to get to any of these places.
	It's absurd.
	You've got to book an hour plus if you want to go 10 miles anywhere.
	No.
	I would empty LA again.
	You cut LA down to 25% of its existing population.
	Right?
	Screw it.
	It's overpopulated.
	Move those people out and then I would live in Malibu.
	I could do that.
	Or up in the hills.
	I could live up in the hills as long as there was no traffic between me and my slight little drive down to the beach.
	Mm-hmm.
	I don't ask for much.
	You know, I'm a simple man.
	We played that early.
	That was one of the Skynyrd songs we played.
	All right, man.
	We're 20 seconds out.
	I'll just tee you up with some cutter and how awful they are, and let's rip on them for a while.
	We may even close out a date airbase, man.
	You never know.
	I like to talk about that.
	Let's do it.
	All right, I'm in.
	I kill mics.
	Ten seconds.
	On behalf of the Nugent family and all working hard, playing hard American families in the asset column, thank you for driving home truth, logic, and common sense every day.
	We are with you.
	America first.
	Magnificent.
	Oh, you can't beat Uncle Ted.
	All right, it's Jim Hansen.
	I am back with the...
	I'm going to make you ineffable.
	Benjamin Baird, director of MEF Action.
	And I want to talk with you.
	You brought up some of the Deterrent Act, which is designed to kind of slow the influence of some bad foreign actors on our universities and overall.
	I think in my mind the worst offender is Qatar.
	They have been bad for a long time, and they get away with a lot of stuff because they're very helpful to our military.
	You know, Allidade Air Base is a massive thing that we need, you know, to need or use now, may not need.
	And they've provided a lot of assistance, and they've done a lot of intelligence, you know, gathering with us, of giving us tips as to where we could find bad guys if we want to stack terrorists like Cordwood.
	You know, but they also spend a tremendous amount of money and effort pushing Islamist garbage and their own agenda into our country.
	And I'm curious, do you share the belief that they're one of the worst offenders, if not the worst offender?
	And can the Deterrent Act and other things like that actually make a difference and slow that down?
	Sure, yeah.
	I mean, without a doubt, Qatar is one of the most malign foreign actors when it comes to U.S. interests in the world.
	They should be mentioned up there with countries like North Korea, China, Russia.
	But they're not, and that's because they play this double game.
	On the one hand, they court Western governments.
	They invest in our economies.
	They invest in our education systems.
	And on the other hand, they're supporting violent Islamist jihadist movements throughout the Middle East, groups like al-Nusra Front in Syria, Or Hamas, of course, in Gaza.
	They've given billions of dollars to Hamas over the years.
	Their leadership live in Doha.
	You know, I mean, they actually had bad guys, Hamas terrorists, living in Qatar, while at the same time, our central command is, you know, within driving distance.
	I never understood why they couldn't maybe organize a convoy over there and take those guys out.
	Yeah, I mean, the Biden administration from the very beginning should have pressed Qatar to say, look, you need to arrest these people.
	They shouldn't have been looked at as an independent third-party negotiator.
	No way.
	When it came to the hostage negotiations, Qatar was there to negotiate on behalf of Hamas's interests, just like they were there to negotiate on behalf of the Taliban when they were Negotiating the withdrawal of U.S. forces from Afghanistan.
	They're not there as a mediator.
	They're not impartial.
	They support the Islamist bad guys against the United States, against Western interests and those of our allies.
	And we need to treat them as such.
	You know, I think one of the things they did, like you said, you mentioned the double game, and they've been very good at it because we use them because they can get access to terrorist groups and other people we want to talk to and need information about.
	But they can get that access because they're funding them.
	And when they would give us intelligence that would allow us to conduct raids and take out high-value targets, mostly it was other terrorist groups that were causing trouble for the guys they liked.
	So literally they were getting us to take care of their inter-terror group squabbles On behalf of the groups they like and damaging the ones they didn't like.
	And they've done the same thing in using us.
	You mentioned the Taliban.
	The leaders of the Taliban, in addition to Hamas, were there in Doha.
	And when they went back to take over the country, they flew on a C-17 out of Doha to go back and take over Afghanistan with a bunch of piles of money that...
	The Qataris were giving them to make the whole deal work.
	It's horrible to watch.
	So we need to go ahead and decide that we're not going to have an active terror-supporting state as our, maybe, they've got most, what is it, most major non-NATO ally status.
	We can pull that.
	That'd be a good start, right?
	We need to pull that, absolutely.
	The first thing the Trump administration needs to do is to say that Hamas needs to go.
	There were rumors in the last few weeks that Qatar had booted Hamas and that they were seeking sanctuary in other countries like Turkey.
	We need to tell Doha, look, Hamas is out.
	We're not going to negotiate with you.
	That is the bottom line.
	Until they're gone from their sky-rise billionaire apartment buildings in downtown Doha, We're not talking.
	We're not doing anything.
	And by the way, we need to send the same message to anyone else who would accept Hamas and provide sanctuary for them, including Turkey, which is a NATO ally.
	We need to be very clear that anyone who gives a safe haven to this terrorist jihadist group It's not a U.S. ally and will be treated as such.
	You know, and Turkey has a whole bunch of injured, wounded Hamas guys that they took in, you know, during the operations in Gaza.
	And they have offered to go ahead and, oh yeah, if they got to leave Doha, we've got some, you know, the buildings might not be as nice, right?
	Turkey doesn't have quite the amount of luxury, but they're still offering to take in enemies.
	And even worse, you know, the Qataris may be a non-NATO ally.
	Turkey is a NATO ally.
	And yeah, I scare quoted that for radio, because I think they're a problem.
	And I think we need to relook our, not just with the Qataris, we need to relook whether Turkey is a productive member of NATO. Yeah, well, Qatar has the Hamas Politburo, Political Bureau members in Doha.
	Turkey has card-carrying, nasty jihadist fighters.
	The Hamas members that live in Turkey, these are people who came there via prisoner exchanges between Israel and Hamas.
	When there was nowhere else for them to go, they sent them to Turkey.
	And they've since planned and coordinated terrorist attacks from Turkey, from Istanbul, against Israel.
	So the type of Hamas fighters in Turkey is a different breed than what you see in Qatar.
	And this should be unacceptable.
	This is a NATO country.
	They shouldn't be providing sanctuary to these types of people.
	I mean, if you are allowing them, if you're housing them, feeding them, and they're planning and conducting, you know, operating terrorist attacks from your territory, that's pretty material support-y of terrorism, which last time I checked was illegal.
	Right.
	I mean, you talk about shutting down the Isle Udyad base.
	There are NATO bases in Turkey that we should look at moving out of there, finding alternative locations for those bases, at least not logistically supporting them as long as Turkey plays this double game themselves.
	So do you have hope now that I think we're going to get a better look at this with a new administration?
	Because it seemed like the old one was friends with these guys.
	Right.
	Over the past four years, we've had a Congress that has been willing to go after Qatar and to go after some of these bad actors.
	But there wasn't the will from the administration.
	Now, I think we're going to see that change.
	I think countries that have supported terrorist movements across the Middle East It's a new day.
	It's a reckoning for them.
	They earned it, and I think the pain they bring will be their own, like you said, reckoning for it.
	Benjamin Baird, director of MEF Action, the action wing of the Middle East Forum, thanks for being with us and giving us some good thoughts on what we can do to stop being friends with terrorists.
	Okay, we will be back after the break with a little bit more.
	We've got 30 minutes of Thanksgiving Eve, America First Radio.
	All right, mic's hot.
	Hey, that was fun, Ben.
	Good stuff.
	And what I'll do, I'll pull the video.
	Actually, can you cut that, Eric?
	Yeah, yeah, I can do that.
	Just cut it and ship it to me and we'll put it up over at MEF. Yeah, we'll promote it.
	Tell everybody what we're doing.
	But great work.
	And like I said, dude, let's have some fun.
	Let's talk next week.
	Happy Turkey Day to you and your family.
	You as well, Jim.
	Thanks a lot.
	All right, man.
	Take care now.
	Bye-bye.
	Want me to send you the video file?
	Yeah, if you would.
	Yeah, I can do that.
	We'll put that up at MEF. Alright, perfect.
	Alright.
	Well, I still got to talk about more stuff, don't I? Oh, you want to knock out the final read here?
	Let's knock out the final read.
	That's not going to fill the whole segment, though.
	I need a topic.
	Is Rumble live?
	Is anybody in there still?
	Rumble is in fact alive.
	Let's see.
	See if anybody's got anything they want me to talk about.
	If not, I got a list somewhere.
	I just got to find it.
	What's Jim mad about today?
	Which establishment Republican do you hate the most?
	Okay, that's fun.
	That's spicy.
	All right.
	That's pretty good.
	That's a good caller one, too.
	You'll get some calls on that, too.
	Oh, yes.
	Yeah, you'll get some calls talking about that.
	I'm going to try and take a guess on his.
	Let me think.
	On mine?
	Yeah.
	Well, Jeff already knows what mine is.
	I think I know where he's going.
	Wow.
	I'm going to text Eric to see if I'm right.
	You're ahead of me.
	To give a little inspiration, I'll say this much.
	Last week on the show, Seb asked me, because he played back-to-back clips of Bolton criticizing Trump, and then a clip of Trey Gowdy criticizing Matt Gaetz when he was AG nominee.
	And he asked me, oh, which one's worse?
	And on the air, I said, I think Trey Gowdy's worse.
	Because you know what?
	Everyone knows Bolton is a rhino.
	But Gowdy is still meant to fool a lot of people into thinking he's like a super base, like, oh, he screamed at some committee hearings when he was in Congress, so people think he's like Jim Jordan.
	So I'm like, yeah, I say Trey Gowdy's worse.
	Trey Gowdy is a malevolent little elf.
	Ha ha ha!
	He always, to me, looks like he's one of those actors for a Civil War reenactment, doesn't he?
	Wow.
	Oh, he does.
	You can put him right in.
	Yeah, you put the Johnny Reb hat on him.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Nailed it, dude.
	You nailed it.
	He needs the little scraggly beard, though.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	You add the scraggly beard and he's in.
	He's that guy.
	There's so many good options.
	The problem with Gowdy is that he talked so big up into the Benghazi thing.
	That's why.
	He did what any typical Republican had done.
	But he talked it up forever that he was going to do so much.
	I'm going to kill Hillary Clinton.
	I'm going to take her out.
	And they never managed to pin her down.
	I could have pinned her down in 30 seconds.
	It's because they didn't want to.
	Why did you not call the commanders in extremist force the second you got told there and put them on alert?
	Why did you not make that call?
	And again, I feel the same way about Jim Jordan.
	I feel that Jim Jordan's just as useless.
	He doesn't do anything.
	Can we do a roundtable on this?
	Can we do you guys?
	Yeah, sure.
	Let's do that.
	Bring us in.
	All right.
	You guys are in.
	Oh, boy.
	I'm still not sure who my least favorite one is.
	There's too many to pick from.
	Yeah, shoot.
	Romney's gone.
	We can't say Romney anymore.
	You can still say Romney.
	He's not dead.
	I'm just thinking of people who are in office.
	People who are problematic in office.
	All right.
	Well, then I know who my top problematic rhino loser is.
	News and talk radio is still really popular, even in the Internet age.
	What you are about to hear them say is mind-boggling.
	Here's looking at you, snowflake.
	America first.
	Well, we're going to bog your minds.
	I'm bringing the crew in.
	Because they asked during a break, what should we talk about?
	And the question of the day is, and the phone lines will be open, 833-333-GORCA, 833-334-6752.
	Who's your least favorite rhino establishment squish loser Republican?
	And I'm going to go with the guy who needs to leave his job now.
	I'm done with Mitch McConnell.
	I gave him credit for the judicial work he did to get all of that done, but he has been such a pain in the butt since then that I just need him to stop.
	So he's out.
	So who wants to jump in from the crew?
	Who's your least favorite?
	Eric, go ahead.
	Okay, so you said it doesn't have to be someone who's...
	still in office anymore.
	He said that in the break because I was thinking Mitt Romney would be an easy one if he was still in office.
	So with that caveat in mind, I still have not forgiven Paul Ryan for basically single-handedly screwing over President Trump's agenda in those first two years when they had And Bannon told the story.
	He was like, oh, Paul Ryan said, you'll have tax cuts in the spring, you'll have a border bill in the summer, you'll have an infrastructure bill in the fall, all by the end of the year 2017 on the president's desk.
	None of those things happened, except for tax cuts.
	So yeah, I will never forget Paul Ryan for that.
	I'm with you on that.
	He's a Wisconsin boy.
	I thought he was going to be good, and he turned out lame and pathetic.
	What do you got, Jeff?
	Who's your guy?
	First of all, I texted Eric, I thought you were going to take the new Utah Senator, John Curtis.
	See, I thought about that.
	I'm like the new Mitt Romley.
	He was my number two.
	I just don't know enough about him yet.
	He's only done one dumb thing.
	Don't worry, there'll be more, though.
	My guy that I can't stand the most, and it's because of the consequences, is Brian Kemp.
	When he went to the mail-in voting in Georgia, first of all, I don't know why he did it, because he was very anti-COVID, but he used this COVID. Remember, he was the first state to reopen, so there's no reason for this.
	Him going to the mass mail-in voting gave, instead of the Republicans having 52 to 48 senators, that put it at split 50-50.
	And those first two years, they absolutely destroyed us.
	So much stuff that got done with Biden those first two years, I would say the biggest impact of a rhino was Brian Kemp in the 2020 election.
	That's a good case to be made because not having that was just, it's still, we're still feeling the effects of that.
	You wouldn't have had the inflation without him.
	You know, I would love to hate on Liz Cheney, but here's the thing.
	I think she helped swing the election.
	I think there's a polling out that says Liz Cheney cost them votes, cost Kamala Harris votes by campaigning for her in the Rust Belt states.
	So, I mean, she's a horrible, awful disgrace.
	Adam Kinzinger, another malevolent little elf loser scumbag, he's another one who I would knock him over.
	Who else?
	I got a quote.
	What's your opinion of Crenshaw?
	Did you see his meltdown last night?
	No, I need to watch that.
	Every time I want to cut him a break, he does something idiotic.
	He was asked about the stocks.
	Now, the way that he went into it, he goes, what are we supposed to not make any money?
	And then he went on whining that they haven't had a pay increase since 2008. Dude, Navy SEALs make their money off movies and books.
	You didn't join Congress because that's how...
	Now, of course, he did, actually, because that's how Congress people make work.
	Crenshaw has some things I like about him, but he's done so many just absolutely stunningly dense things that, I don't know, I could be done with him.
	What about Richard Nixon?
	I think he was a complete debacle as a president.
	We've got a big Nixon defender here.
	Eric's favorite president is Richard Nixon.
	He keeps saying it.
	Oh, second favorite.
	Okay.
	Who's your first?
	Trump?
	Yes, the greatest press in modern history.
	I guess that goes without saying.
	But he keeps saying, you know, like it's a compliment.
	He says, reminds me of Nixon.
	And every time I hear it, I'm like, that doesn't feel like a compliment.
	But give us your case, because I like it.
	Nixon gets such a bad rap because of a little thing called Watergate.
	If you look at his achievements, domestic and international, he oversaw the moon landing.
	He was a genius on foreign policy.
	He really does not get enough credit for how high IQ the man was in terms of his philosophical approach to foreign policy.
	And people love to talk about how great Reagan was because he won 49 states.
	Who's the one other president in American history who's won 49 states?
	George Washington.
	If only there were many states back then.
	Richard M. Nixon.
	And he also battled with the press a lot because the press did not like him.
	He kind of almost was kind of a precursor to Trump just battling the fake news media.
	You know, famously said, you won't have Nixon to kick around anymore because the media went after him nonstop.
	He called the anti-war protesters a bunch of bums.
	You know, this is obviously more polite language than what we'd hear today.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	And again, a true rags to riches story.
	Grew up dirt poor on the poorest lemon ranch in all of California, he could assure you.
	And then he becomes vice president after just two years in the Senate, by the way.
	Sounds kind of familiar these days, doesn't it?
	Yeah, I think we need a serious critical reevaluation of Richard Nixon.
	Well, there you go.
	Add that to the Seb merch.
	Get the Nixon was the man, right?
	Number two best president ever.
	You need that stuff.
	There you go.
	And he does...
	Nixon, oh, he did the double.
	I always do the V at the end of my videos because it's V for victory and, you know, it's a stolen peace sign appropriated from the left.
	All right, well, that was fun.
	I think we got some good kicking around done.
	We got a little bit more America First Radio.
	We'll take a quick break and be back with more Thanksgiving Eve festivities.
	Thank you for letting me make the case.
	Strong case, man.
	I mean, it's working for me, you know?
	I never would...
	His problem is Nixon's homely.
	I do agree Nixon got screwed over on Watergate.
	That was like nothing.
	I mean, come on.
	Seriously, who among us hasn't spied on our enemies?
	Every president has done something like that.
	Like, let's be real.
	Since World War II, the rising intelligence agencies, I mean, yeah.
	I mean, J. Edgar Hoover, my God.
	That guy had blackmail information on, like, every president in his lifetime.
	Yeah, I'm with you.
	Yeah, that feels so good.
	All right, well, I'm going to go ahead and take a fresh look at Mr. Milhouse.
	I remember last CPAC, I met Monica Crowley, because she worked for him in his post-presidency.
	Did she really?
	Oh, yeah, oh, yeah.
	I didn't know that.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And I asked her just one thing.
	What would you say about Foreign President Nixon, having met him and worked with him?
	And she simply said the word, visionary.
	Yeah.
	And I'm like, yeah, that's a good one.
	Wow.
	And I wouldn't have gone there.
	But if you think about it, it took Nixon to go to China.
	You know, he did some stuff.
	All right, dude, you have my word.
	I will do a little bit of recreational Nixon reconsideration.
	Why, thank you, Jim.
	And non-historical, but his life is also a basis for what I consider the single greatest biopic ever made, Oliver Stone's Nixon, starring Anthony Hopkins.
	Wow.
	Great.
	I think it's one of those three-hour-long movies, but it's so good.
	John Williams did the music for it.
	Reagan's out, right?
	I haven't seen that.
	That's out.
	I haven't seen it yet.
	I need to watch that, because Nick Searcy's a buddy, and he's awesome.
	Anything he's in is automatically good.
	But the cast, yeah, I mean, obviously the great Anthony Hopkins as Nixon.
	The movie came out a year after he died.
	It came out in 1995. James Woods as his chief of staff in that movie.
	See?
	All right, there you go.
	The late, great Paul Servino as Kissinger.
	Well, alright, you're selling me.
	Ed Harris shows up as one of the plumbers.
	Really?
	Yeah, he's, um, what was the name of the one guy with the weird name?
	What was his name?
	G. Gordon Liddy?
	No, he was Hunt.
	He played E. Howard Hunt.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	What was it with the first initials?
	What was that all about?
	Yeah, I don't know about that.
	I don't know.
	He was fun.
	When he still had his radio show, I used to get to go on his show, and I got to guest host for him one time back in the day.
	He was a savage.
	Oh, someone in the chat brings up, yeah, it was Nixon who outed the communist spy traitor Alger Hiss.
	See?
	Dude, alright.
	I'm in.
	Literally, if it weren't for Watergate, Nixon would be on par with Reagan, and like 40 years later, we'd still be idolizing Nixon.
	So I need what we need for merch.
	We need the double victory.
	I love the double peace sign.
	Was it a peace sign or was it victory?
	I guess, yeah, you could say it's either one.
	On Mount Rushmore.
	How about let's put him on a t-shirt first?
	No, but it'll be on Mount Rushmore for Eric.
	He'll be the only one that'll buy the t-shirt.
	My Mount Rushmore, yeah, my Mount Rushmore is Trump, Nixon, probably Teddy Roosevelt, and who's already on Mount Rushmore.
	And who, Mark Robinson?
	No, William Randolph Hearst actually would be my fourth.
	He was not president.
	He's one of the greatest presidents we never had.
	But yeah, that's another guy I could talk endlessly about.
	I love William Randolph Hearst so much.
	Yeah, I feel bad about Mark Robinson.
	I mean, he was probably going to lose anyway.
	Who among us hasn't, you know, cosplayed as a black Nazi?
	I don't understand.
	On a sex chat thing.
	I just can't.
	It's so oddly specific to the website that was used.
	It wasn't even like one of the generic ones like Pornhub.
	I just want to know how they found it.
	I mean, the oppo research you did to find that.
	We should be doing that.
	That's the problem.
	It's not as hard as you do.
	But it doesn't work, though.
	Kill them, like...
	So chill Can't handle the truth Is reality just too much?
	There's always NPR. I hear they have tote bags.
	This is America First with Sebastian Gorka.
	Well, not with Sebastian Gorka.
	It's with Jim Hansen, because Seb is off training for his new role as Senior Director of Counterterrorism at the National Security Council.
	So he's doing his Batman Begins routine up in the mountains with his guru, grizzled guy, you know, eating cold rice and strangling mountain goats or something.
	I don't know what he's doing.
	I am not privy to that.
	But when Seb gets back, we will have a montage that we'll show on the show, because you've got to have a montage.
	You know, that's the thing.
	That's one of the great parts of Team America World Police.
	They point out that all great action shows have the time when the hero rebuilds himself into a lean, mean fighting machine in a montage.
	So Seb needs a montage.
	I want to talk about a guy who, if he had a montage, he'd be pretty kick-ass because he does stuff like catch rockets with chopsticks.
	He does stuff like build tunnels underneath entire cities.
	He's built more electric cars than anybody.
	He's got a car that goes to ludicrous speed, which is a ridiculously fast thing.
	And it's a reference to space ball is a great movie.
	He is a guy who buys a social media platform to save free speech and He's a guy who decided that the Democrats had lost their minds and the only way to save our country was to back Donald Trump and make America great again.
	I'm talking about Elon Musk.
	And I'm a fan.
	I'm not going to lie.
	If you're not, I don't know what's wrong with you.
	You know, I think there are people who try to tear him down and talk smack.
	And does it at the same time, he's running like eight billion dollar companies that all do things that would require the full attention of a normal human being.
	Now, it's not like he does all of that, but somebody has to be, like Eric said in the break, a visionary like Nixon.
	And I think we need to give Elon a little credit, and I think we need to figure out What we want to use this new entrepreneurial, rebuild the country, build a leaner, meaner, better.
	You know, he's literally invented a new arm of government, DOGE. You know, the Department of Government Efficiency with him and Vivek Ramaswamy, they are going to go and root out the red tape.
	They're going to find, not the red tape, they're the pork barrel spending.
	They're going to find all the places where we're just ridiculously spending money.
	The Pentagon has not passed an audit ever and has failed seven in a row.
	They spend a little bit of money and they have no idea what they're spending it on.
	And a lot of the stuff they're spending it on, I don't think I'd be all that thrilled about.
	And if you want to start with the rest of the government agencies, there are plenty of them that hopefully Doge will find a nice exit strategy for.
	But I think there's all of those things together have breathed a kind of a fresh approach to the way America can regain its mojo.
	You know, I talked earlier about how the last generation that really had the full America's, you know, American dream was Generation X, my generation.
	We have a better life than our parents and things have actually gone downhill since then.
	A lot of reasons for that.
	Some of them we're dealing with now by removing wokeness from our corporations and our government, stopping DEI, a lot of this stuff.
	But it's a long war.
	It's a generational struggle.
	And we need to figure out, what does America do?
	You know, we've been coasting for a while now.
	We have been resting on our laurels.
	Nobody can take us off our perch.
	You know, we're the biggest dog on the porch, all these things.
	But we haven't really had, as we did, you know, back in, say, the 80s, where we had that feeling that America meant innovation.
	America meant power.
	America was building cool things.
	And we lost that.
	You know, we started, no, America doesn't build cool things.
	America builds giant corporations that tell you how to control your life and try to figure out how to socially engineer us into great global citizens.
	I don't want to be a citizen of the globe.
	I don't want to be part of the New World Order.
	I don't want Klaus Schwab and those idiots who go to Davos telling me how to live my life or my family how to live or the rest of America how to live.
	We can figure it out for ourselves, and we've been doing a better job of it than you scumbags anyhow, up until recently when we lost our mojo, as I mentioned.
	And I think it happened in the 90s and on through the past couple of decades.
	We've got a couple of lost generations that have been poorly indoctrinated, not educated, And they have no future to look forward to.
	Okay, I'm supposed to what?
	YOLO. You only live once.
	I'm supposed to enjoy my life.
	I'm supposed to have a work-life balance.
	I'm doing these things because I'm trying to make myself feel good, but I don't have a big purpose.
	When I was young, I looked at the world as an adventure playground.
	Where whatever I wanted to do, I could go out, I could do great things, because I was an American living in the greatest country on earth, and that's what we did!
	That was America's mojo.
	And I think more than anyone in my lifetime Donald Trump has revitalized the American political process.
	Elon Musk has revitalized the American dream and the American purpose on the economic and cultural side.
	And I think we need to empower that.
	We need to go ahead and buy into that.
	Let's go ahead and have hope and joy.
	Let's vibe.
	Because if anybody can build a better life, we can.
	If anybody can turn it around so that we give the kids who come after Z and the rest of it A chance to have a better life, to have the American dream that I have had my entire life.
	And going into this Thanksgiving weekend, I started the show by saying I am thankful for the United States of America for giving me the chance to grow up in a country where that was the norm.
	And the fact that it's been beat down and wokenized and kind of emasculated and all that, let's stop that.
	We can do that.
	It's up to us.
	So I look at a guy like Elon Musk As a visionary who has shown us that we are bigger and better than this.
	We need to get back to being the America who people dream about it.
	I mean, everybody still wants to come here because we're doing better than they are.
	The rest of the world sucks.
	I've been there.
	Trust me.
	It's not good.
	But they used to want to come here because it was a place of hope.
	You know, it was a place where dreams and a shining city on the hill and all of that.
	I think with Donald Trump leading us on the political side and Elon leading an economic and entrepreneurial revolution, we can do it again.
	So let's make America greater again in all the ways we can.
	I'm Jim Hansen.
	This is America First Radio.
	We got one more segment before we head into Thanksgiving full speed.
	Back after the break.
	Man, that's two!
	Just remember, we got to do that read.
	I'll do the read.
	I'll do the read.
	I should have done it that way.
	You want my plan for Doge and how you fixed the debt?
	Yes.
	Here we go.
	It's simple.
	When you have the spending thing come up, Elon and Vivek, they come up with their proposal of all the money that needs to be cut and all that.
	Why that's going on.
	Treasury accidentally sends everyone a letter.
	This is your share of the debt.
	It's due now upon request.
	We're calling the loan.
	We're calling, right?
	Yes.
	So every person, I think it's an average of $100,000.
	If you have three people in your household, you owe $300,000.
	If it's five people, you owe $500,000.
	Why the whole debate's going on?
	Wow.
	You will have people cut spending then.
	You do it as a text message.
	That's true.
	You do an alert, like an amber alert, but you do a green alert.
	Because banks will do that.
	When your credit deteriorates, they'll just call the whole loan.
	So there you go.
	You're $34 trillion in debt.
	That is actually really good.
	That's the kind of thing you could totally see Elon doing.
	No, let's roundtable it again and let's do that last segment because that's too good to just...
	The rumble chat got it, but everybody deserves that, man.
	Oh, yeah.
	Wow, I'm hungry.
	Me too.
	I didn't manage to grab mic mics to make it through.
	I'm just getting ready because my flight is super early in the morning and they serve breakfast on my flight because it's that early.
	I don't land in Phoenix until like 10.30.
	Breakfast.
	Breakfast on airplanes is sketchy at best.
	But you're flying.
	You're indulging yourself this time.
	I'm indulging on this one.
	I don't normally do that.
	No, I get it, man.
	You're young.
	You're not old enough.
	I can't fly steerage anymore.
	The food in first class is surprisingly good.
	It's not bad.
	It's just more for me.
	It's two things.
	I hate to worry about my carry-on luggage because I hate to check bags.
	Oh, yeah.
	And I'm 6'2", you know?
	I don't play stuff me in a little thing and pretend like I fit, because I don't fit.
	All right.
	Yeah, we only have one segment left.
	Plus, you've got to do the read, right?
	Yeah.
	I'm going to do the read at the open, and then I want to bring you in, Jeff, for your cunning plan.
	All right.
	45 seconds why don't they get cat temp a booster chair I Seriously, she's doing what I used to do before you guys lowered the desk.
	You know, she's got her elbows up around her face.
	She looks like a six-year-old at the five table.
	20 seconds. 20 seconds.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	This is America First, and I'm delighted to welcome our special guest host, Jim Hansen.
	And I will thank Seb again for letting me sit in and use his chair while he is off lifting mountains and prepping to kill terrorists.
	Tomorrow is Thanksgiving Day, and before you get ready to count your blessings and give thanks to the Lord, I want to invite you to share your bounty with children who have a mom or dad in prison and who might not have a Christmas this year without your help today.
	Won't you please join us as we partner with the Nonprofit Prison Fellowship to help bless these kids through the Angel Tree Christmas program.
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	Okay, we're going to close out.
	I've got to bring in Jeff because he's got a great idea how to deal with the debt and letting everybody feel the pain.
	What are you going to do, buddy?
	All right, so here's my deal.
	When they're having the budget fight and then Elon and Vivek, they come up with their idea of all the money they want to cut, and you're having the fight and Congress is saying you can't do it, At the same time, I think Treasury accidentally, you know how sometimes a bank will call a loan because the creditor's debt has kind of gone way too high and they've lost their credit score?
	Basically, you call a loan.
	You said a text message, which I like better.
	I was thinking a letter.
	To every American, so if you've got three people in your household, you're responsible for $300,000.
	If it's five people, it's $500,000.
	We're calling the loan now.
	This is the debt that you own.
	And then every single person in this country is going to care about the money that we're spending every year.
	So your phone blows up.
	Everybody's phone blows up.
	It's not an amber alert.
	It's a red alert on our debt.
	Can you imagine if they did that?
	And you could probably do it.
	The Republicans could do it just through that.
	But what we need is we need to get the Democrats donor list because they're the ones who don't care.
	Our team understands and our team would probably back this.
	We need to scare the crap out of their plan.
	So we need to buy ActBlue or whatever it is.
	Their donor list and get all their numbers and do a blast text message and just scare the crap out of everybody.
	Because if you're not scared by $36 trillion in debt, I don't know how to help you.
	I'm scared and I don't have to pay it.
	I'm not going to pay it.
	I might even get some Social Security if I play my cards right.
	All right.
	Hey, it has been a blast.
	Two days doing America First Radio.
	Looking forward to Seb in the administration.
	I'm going to be sad that he's not here.
	But all in all, things are going so well that we're just going to roll with the flow.
	It'll all figure itself out.
	Go home.
	Enjoy your family.
	Enjoy the blessing.
	Thanks to America.
	America First Radio, out.

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