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	I'm Sebastian Golka.
	This is America First, and I'm delighted to welcome our special guest host, Jim Hansen.
	Hey folks, it is Jim Hansen and I am tickled pink to be doing America First.
	It is a fantastic time to be part of our team.
	I wake up giggling every morning.
	It's also especially poignant to be sitting in Dr. G's chair while he's off at a training camp high in the Himalayas, practicing his kung fu skills for counter-terrorism operations when he joins the Trump administration in January.
	Come on!
	I gotta tell you, my impression of President Trump's picks for his cabinet is pretty...
	I'm pretty happy.
	I'll tell you, the first time around was like a peacetime cabinet.
	This is his wartime cabinet of pipe hitters.
	Not like everyone, and nobody should.
	If he picked a cabinet of everybody I like, something would be wrong.
	He's picking a cabinet based on the myriad of competing things that a president has to do to successfully operate the giant machinery that is the United States of America.
	But the team he's chosen to keep us safe, to guard our security, to return America to a place of preeminence as the indispensable nation, the one big dog on the porch of this planet, is pretty impressive.
	And we're going to talk about that.
	Let's start with the guy whose chair I'm in.
	All right, I can't imagine that any jihadi Islamist terrorist tool on the planet is doing anything other than digging deeper, trying to find a cave to hide in, knowing that Dr. Gorka is coming for them.
	Seb's pumped about this.
	He's always been deeply involved in all of the things it takes to keep this country on track and keep our enemies off track.
	And I just love the idea that he is going to be sitting in the building right next door, making sure that every time there's an important decision to be made about how to stop our enemies from hurting anything, but especially Hurting American citizens, he's going to be proactively telling the president, stack dead tangos like cordwood.
	And that is going to be a breath of fresh air.
	I couldn't be happier.
	He's perfectly qualified for the job.
	Now we're going to go through the usual garbage of people nipping at his heels, the usual yapping little attack poodles are going to say, oh, he's not this, he's not that.
	Nobody who has spent five minutes in a serious discussion with Sebastian Gorka on national security is going to tell you he's not qualified to do this job.
	I've done it a lot.
	We spend a lot of time together and I have yet to find a time where he was either wrong on facts or concepts or didn't have a good or better idea than the conventional wisdom.
	So 100% endorsement of Sebastian Gorka as Senior Director for Counterterror at the National Security Council.
	Yeah!
	Let's move on to someone else I've known probably about as long.
	I think I've known Seb since 2006, 7, 8, somewhere in there.
	We could figure it out.
	I've known Pete Hegseth since 2007. Yeah.
	And I wholeheartedly endorse him for Secretary of Defense.
	Another guy who's gonna catch what I consider unwarranted abuse for not having the correct credentials to be sitting in that chair in that puzzle palace.
	Well, guess what?
	The people who have been sitting in that chair, the current occupant being a perfect example, have failed miserably and need to be replaced.
	We need someone who has a warrior mentality to return the U.S. military to a fighting force, not a social engineering laboratory, more focused on pronouns and pride parades than scaring our enemies and returning us to peace through strength.
	Pete can do that.
	I'm going to tell you a couple quick things about him.
	Back in the day when he was a wet-behind-the-ears lieutenant, one tour of Iraq with the 101st Airborne, he was part of a group called Vets for Freedom that I was affiliated with.
	He actually went over to Oxford in the UK and did a debate on stage at the Oxford Union on the Iraq War against the top Brit anti-war person at the time.
	And this was at a time when we were losing.
	We were not doing well.
	It was going poorly for the United States.
	Pete Hegseth made a case for why it was important to go ahead and finish the job and win the war, and he won that debate.
	Now, that's not something a lot of people know.
	He's also, he formulated an idea that because the surge at the time, you know, reinforcing our troops and starting a more counterinsurgency, get out among the people of Iraq and start teaching them how to take care of their own security,
	how to get them to put their young men's skin in the game, keeping their people safe, We're good to go.
	Pete figured that that needed support because the Democrats in Congress were trying to kill it.
	Hillary Clinton and that mob were trying to cut off funding, bring the troops home, and lose the war in Iraq.
	So he devised what became known as the National Heroes Tour, which was a collection of people like Marcus Luttrell, lone survivor.
	David Bellavia, first living Medal of Honor recipient from the Iraq War.
	Jeremiah Workman and a number of others.
	And Pete took them in a cross-country trip in Rob Zombie's tour bus.
	I'm going to go ahead and point that out.
	Wrapped that thing with Apache helicopters and pictures of guys with guns.
	And started in San Diego with SEALs parachuting onto the deck of the USS Midway and a Marine Corps rock band playing.
	Traversed all the way across the country, talking to governors, talking to the people at veterans, VFW places, American Legion posts, and went all the way across the country until 400 combat vets stormed Capitol Hill, not in an insurrection, in an attempt to convince them that our team could win with their support.
	And guess what?
	They were right.
	It was successful.
	It was a very strategic bit of both populist activity and strategic leverage against Congress.
	And it helped turn the tide, helped keep that available as an option.
	And in the end, we defeated Al-Qaeda in Iraq.
	Now, Obama lost the peace after that, and we had to go back in under Donald Trump and defeat ISIS, which grew out of Obama's weakness and fecklessness.
	But Pete Hegseth had the vision to know that that was something that had to be done and had the ability to lead an effort to convince a large segment of Congress to go ahead and back that play.
	So when people tell me that, oh, Pete's not qualified, no.
	Pete's overly qualified to do this and he will go ahead and come on, we're gonna rip out DEI root and branch.
	All that woke stuff that has been crippling our military is going to be gone and we're going to rebuild a fighting force worthy of this great republic.
	And that's something that I think is as vital as anything we can do.
	We've been involved in the forever war military industrial complex for too long.
	Too many generals and admirals are enriching their retired general and admiral friends at the defense contractors rather than keeping us all safe.
	So Pete is going to change that.
	He will be confirmed.
	And I cannot wait to see him in charge of our entire military apparatus.
	And changing the mindset.
	A commander sets the command environment.
	And Pete's environment will be a warrior mentality for all of our forces.
	You're a fighting force first.
	You're anything else after that.
	Hey, I want to open up the phone lines, 833-33-GORCA, 833-334-6752, because let's talk about this.
	There's a lot more of people who've been nominated.
	Trump's cabinet's shaping up.
	Like I said, I like some.
	There are some I don't like as much.
	Let me know what you think, 833-33-GORCA, and we'll talk about that.
	Like I said, I have a very positive feeling about what's going on in this country, and I know you do too.
	We put up with too much crap for too long.
	The tide has turned back to America First.
	I'm Jim Hansen.
	We'll be back with more America First Radio after the break.
	It's having the mics on and the rubber breaks.
	What are people, they just got things they got to say that no one can hear?
	The Rumble Chat loves you for it.
	Welcome, Rumblers.
	Welcome.
	Hey, should we do, let's tell them, ask what they want to hear in the 5 o'clock hour.
	The Rumblers?
	Yeah.
	Alrighty.
	I mean, my account won't draw the poll enough to do it, but just tell them to, you know, throw out some topics and I'll pick one.
	Alright.
	It's like I know.
	I'm not the guy who knows everything.
	I'm probably the only person in this town is willing to say that.
	I don't know why it's so hard for people to admit they just don't know what they're talking about.
	You know, because this is the zero defect mentality.
	You know, you can't ever be wrong.
	I love to be wrong about stuff because it proves I was trying hard.
	You know, when I was trying something new, I was not just, you know, playing it safe.
	And I mean, if you're not wrong, if you don't fail once in a while, you're not really doing any good.
	So true.
	Okay, keep an eye on the chat then.
	Two and a half minutes?
	Okay, keep an eye on the other side.
	We'll be right back.
	Okay, keep an eye on the other side.
	So, keep an eye on the other side.
	So, keep an eye on the other side.
	How long is the next segment?
	Nine minutes.
	Someone in chat says, talk about how Rumble is the media now.
	Ooh.
	Rumble going to scrap with Elon about that?
	How mad would Rumble be if Elon bought Rumble?
	Ask them that.
	Well, they heard me, right?
	Well, the Rumble show, I can hear you, yeah.
	Because here's the thing, all right?
	I love Rumble, and I love the huevos they had to go ahead and say, we're going to be, you know, servers controlled.
	Nobody can tell us what to do.
	You can't give us any crap.
	I respect that.
	Chris Pavlovsky's a stud.
	But how much better could it all be?
	Because X's video capabilities are garbage.
	Mm.
	They have, I mean, you know, and they need it, right?
	They want content creators on X to go ahead and live there.
	Why don't you buy Rumble, integrate it, and make the Rumble pages the content creator homepage, you know, and then people, you know, the same way it works anywhere else.
	Then you've got your feed, you've got the rest of your stuff, your posts are a separate piece, but, you know, then you're inside that.
	You know, I mean...
	Rumble's paired with True Social, isn't it?
	I think they've...
	Are they?
	I don't know.
	I thought they did.
	They used the cloud services or something.
	Maybe that's what it is, is they're providing that.
	I don't know.
	Another chatter, by the way, asks, how far does Jim think the Biden administration is going to escalate the war in Ukraine before they're out of the White House?
	All the way.
	I think they are trying to make sure there's a war Trump can't stop.
	We will chat about that.
	All right.
	Someone also asks, midterm election strategy for 2026. Oh good God.
	Drive the left crazy and do everything we want and pray for good luck in 20...
	26. Welcome
	back to America First with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo.
	It's Jim Hansen.
	It is good to be back.
	We were just talking about two of President Trump's nominees for his wartime team, the pipe hitters.
	And I want to finish up on that because there's some more good people who I want to mention here.
	Mike Waltz, National Security Advisor, Special Forces guy.
	You got to love that.
	Also, another very smart, very strategic thinker who is going to be a huge advantage as the president tries to make sure that we don't get mired in a bunch of forever wars, You know, send our blood and treasure our young people to fight overseas if we don't have to.
	That should be the last resort.
	The job of our national security apparatus is to come up with the best ways to scare the crap out of our enemies so they don't start anything.
	Every once in a while, you've got to give somebody a good beating, return a few terrorists to their component molecules, but you don't want to be running around trying to depose people, fighting everybody who pops their head up and causes trouble.
	So I think Mike Waltz will be a huge asset there.
	Let's go with another easy pick.
	John Ratcliffe running CIA. Great.
	He's got deep background from both running the Intelligence Committee.
	He was DNI in the previous administration.
	He knows that world.
	And now he's going DNI being a coordination position of all the agencies.
	He's going to CIA, our main operational intelligence agency, with an idea to get them back in line.
	They've been rogue.
	Like every federal agency over the past 20 years, they have their own agenda.
	They've been operating as if they are allowed to run their own agenda.
	And John Ratcliffe is going to jerk a knot in their tail.
	And that's what we need.
	That is exactly what we need.
	We need them doing the intelligence gathering and operational fun stuff.
	That supports the strategic interests of the United States as decided by the president elected by the people, Donald Trump.
	So I think that's going to be a great one.
	Tulsi Gabbard.
	I wasn't always a fan, okay?
	She was, I mean, when she was a Democrat, it was problematic to me, some of the things she said about Syria, about Bashar Assad, some of those things.
	But I've had a chance to reflect on it, and I've looked at the things she does.
	I don't know her personally, like some of these other people.
	But what she has is the attitude that we should be looking, even at the tyrants, even at the worst people, Who are running our countries that we are in conflict or potentially at odds with.
	And find ways that are not always direct conflict to de-escalate and make sure we don't go to war or they don't do bad things.
	Because I don't really care.
	If Bashar Assad's doing mean things to the people of Syria, I care as a human being.
	I do.
	I feel for them.
	And he's a horrible, disgusting tyrant.
	But I'm not willing to risk U.S. blood and treasure every time there's someone like that causing trouble.
	So if she can find a way—and Donald Trump has done a lot of this, too—he believes that making deals with tyrants where you can find a common ground that will stop them from the bad acts we want stopped while not giving away U.S. strategic interests is preferable to war.
	I think everyone should believe that.
	War is the last resort.
	So her thoughts on him, her actions towards Russia, her ideas about the mullahs, they are consistent.
	And to be perfectly honest, her views on a lot of that are closer to Donald Trump's than mine maybe.
	So I don't see a problem with her being the DNI and trying to get the rest of these intelligence agencies to operate in a way that supports not continually trying to find a war that we need to get into.
	So I'm behind her.
	And I think the last person who is likely to fill one of these important roles is, come on, I'm an only cash guy.
	Give me Cash Patel at FBI. Please, Mr. President, we cannot let that rogue agency continue to operate as it has.
	You've got to have somebody so loyal to you in there or they will go ahead and roll over.
	So put Cash in at FBI and let's clean house there.
	Alright, so there's my quick and dirty pipe hitter team evaluation.
	And I gotta say, doesn't that sound like the kind of people who we want running those positions in our country?
	It sure does to me.
	And it's a very refreshing idea that we can do that.
	I want to take a call, though.
	Let's talk to Nate in Phoenix.
	What are you thinking, buddy?
	Hi.
	How's it going?
	It's great.
	So I just wanted to talk about Pete Hegseth and that selection.
	I don't feel like it was a great selection because I just don't think he has a whole lot of experience.
	I'm a combat vet myself, Iraqi Freedom, and it just kind of concerns me.
	I don't know how much experience in the Situation Room that he has.
	I don't think he has any.
	And most of his combat experiences from a National Guard perspective I think those are fair criticisms.
	I mean, because nothing you said isn't true.
	All of those things are true.
	However, Pete will have a deputy and undersecretaries and plenty of people who know how to operate the levers of power.
	So the commander or the in this case, the secretary of defense is not the one who has to know every in and out of everything that could possibly have to happen in order to successfully deter or deploy U.S. forces.
	They have to be someone with the presence of mind and strategic vision to understand what's at stake and to make good decisions and to listen to the people who have the experience you're talking about, which is vital.
	But also it has not, as I said, I am not a huge fan of the way things have been operating by those people with all that experience.
	So we are now finding, and I'm trying to help, you know, we're offering advice about who in the building has the kind of experience that Pete needs, but can also be trusted.
	You know, trusted insiders are going to be valuable.
	So I think it's a fair criticism.
	But I think in the end, I'd rather have someone who will execute the president's vision and the vision I think most warriors have that we want to return to an actual fighting force as opposed to a social engineering lab.
	And I think Pete can do that.
	So we'll see how it turns out, though.
	I think he'll get a chance.
	Let's talk to Randy.
	What are you talking?
	What are you thinking about, buddy?
	Hey, Jim.
	I just wanted to run past you.
	My only concern is appointing homosexuals to high-level positions in our government.
	Secretary of the Treasury, they're talking about putting Rick Grinnell in charge of our Ukraine situation.
	I'm not a hater.
	I'm a Christian person.
	The evangelical Christians and our Catholic brothers, of course, helped to elect Trump.
	He wouldn't have been elected if it wasn't.
	I'm concerned about this.
	This is politically incorrect, but Jim...
	Me, like millions of other people, think that homosexuals could have a psychological problem, and I don't think that there should be.
	Hold on.
	We're running short on time, and I'm just going to interrupt and say one thing.
	Rick Grinnell served in the last administration, and he kicked ass.
	He was outstanding as ambassador to Germany.
	He was someone who did...
	I think probably the best job of Trump's senior appointed officials during the first term.
	So I don't share the view that being gay by itself is an issue.
	I think you get further down the LGBTQRSTUV line and I'm done with those people.
	But I think the normal gays, as I think we've come to know them, Are perfectly fine and going to do a good job.
	So that's my personal opinion.
	We'll see how it shakes out.
	Coming up after the break, we are going to have Christina Wong from Breitbart on to talk about some excellent stories she's been writing.
	I'm Jim Hansen.
	We're doing America First Radio.
	Get loose.
	Another Rumble chat has asked, what is your take on Pam Bondi?
	Is she pro-Second Amendment or not?
	Yeah, I don't know.
	That's the one thing about her that worries me.
	Here's the thing.
	I don't think you can successfully operate in the Trump White House unless you are.
	But didn't Trump weasel a little bit on kind of red flag laws at one point?
	I'm trying to remember how he extricated himself from that.
	What was the bump stocks thing after Vegas?
	But I mean, I don't remember the red flag.
	That was the one...
	Rare thing where I heard Trump say he made a mistake about it.
	Okay, well, there you go.
	And I think he will ensure...
	It was to the gun owners of America, however, but he actually alluded to that.
	No, I think we're actually going to see some really powerful...
	We'll do a third Second Amendment ruling on basically constitutional carry.
	We had the Thomas ruling, and then we had the Alito...
	He called for that at Gun Owners America that all states should adopt that, the constitutional carry.
	I think that's coming.
	And I don't think they're going to let the AG be anything but pro-gun.
	Because that's reciprocity.
	America First is car-armed, you know?
	We're gun people.
	Someone else in chat asked...
	Plus, I think Trump can get away with it better now after being shot.
	You know what I mean?
	Right.
	What are you going to tell him?
	I got shot.
	I want my team armed.
	So based.
	Someone else in the chat says you should talk about steak.
	Steak?
	Oh, Marco Rubio?
	Steak.
	No, steak.
	Like, best steaks.
	Wow.
	I could do that.
	Do a little segment on steak.
	Okay, yeah, no, I actually just posted on Twitter.
	I busted up another prime rib.
	Hey, hey, hey, I see you.
	There she is.
	The mics are hot.
	Hey, Tim.
	Ah, good to see you.
	Good to see you, too.
	Yeah, this should be fun.
	Yeah, thanks for having me.
	Are you sharing the joyous feeling, the vibe of joy that some of the rest of us have?
	For sure.
	It's been a great last three weeks.
	Yeah, I have not enjoyed myself and had this positive an attitude about the country.
	I'm going to go back to, I'm old enough to remember voting for Ronald Reagan.
	That was my first election.
	And I voted for Reagan and all of that.
	It felt like this.
	You know, it's the first time it's returned to that kind of a, you know, what was his dawn in America?
	What was the thing I'm missing?
	Morning in America.
	Morning in America, you know?
	Morning in America, we got good coffee.
	We'll see.
	One minute.
	Cool.
	Well, I want to lead off with your Tom Cotton article and then we'll just freelance from there.
	Okay.
	Sounds good.
	Sounds good.
	It's a nice suit tie combo.
	It's all designer, I'm telling you.
	My wife is a fashion designer, so I have a closet full of this stuff.
	I just don't usually wear it.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	30 seconds.
	I'm actually in my bedroom, so I might look kind of weird.
	I'm just tired.
	I'm just tired.
	It's Jim Hansen.
	Right on.
	And we are just feeling the morning in America.
	I was talking in the break with our next guest, Christina Wong, who is a writer for Breitbart, that my first election was Ronald Reagan.
	And I voted for him.
	It was a vibe and joy kind of positive thing.
	And I think we're kind of there again.
	So we'll see how this goes.
	But welcome to Christina Wong, Pentagon correspondent for Breitbart.com.
	Thank you so much for having me on.
	Well, I wanted to ask you, I read your article about, you know, that Tom Cotton was calling out the people undermining Trump and talking about, oh, is he going to have, you know, ridiculous Lloyd Austin?
	Is Trump going to issue lawful orders and you have to obey him and all this?
	They seem to be trying to create an atmosphere of questioning the authority.
	Oh, exactly.
	That's exactly what they're trying to do.
	So the day after the election, Lloyd Austin, the current defense secretary, sent this memo to the entire department saying, we will follow a smooth and orderly transition and everyone should follow, quote, lawful military orders.
	So implying that Trump could issue unlawful military orders in which, you know, they would be supposed to disobey or something, but basically just planting the seed in their minds to look out for that.
	So that was essentially Trying to undermine Trump.
	And it's very odd to say because most troops actually support Trump.
	So I don't think there's this doubt.
	So I think it was mostly just posturing just to, you know, civilians and military leaders, you know, trying to tell them, you know, look, you can stand up against Trump.
	So poisoning the well before they take office.
	You know, I am not a huge Lloyd Austin fan would be the most polite thing I could ever say about him.
	I think he was a diversity hire.
	I've had the opportunity to speak with him and I was unimpressed with his ability to articulate a coherent thought.
	So the idea that we've survived at least his tenure Is good, but I think he's done tremendous damage.
	And I think this is like Joe Biden, not even Joe Biden, like the other minions and handlers in the Biden administration.
	They're basically trying to screw things up on the way out and cause trouble for the Trump team on the way in.
	And I think that is so disgraceful that I hope they pay a price for that in their next situations.
	Oh, yeah.
	It's very disgraceful.
	One of the first things Lloyd Austin did was begin the extremist witch hunt.
	There were, I think, less than 100 incidents of extremism in the military of, you know, over 1.3 million members.
	He ordered that study.
	That study came back to be, you know, show an extremely low number of the so-called extremists.
	But he started this witch hunt, and that really incentivized Service members to turn on each other.
	So the woke service members turning on the non-woke and just instilling this culture of fear.
	And so I think troops are so happy that that looks to be, you know, on its way out with the incoming Trump administration.
	And then, of course, Austin He got rid of over 8,000 healthy members of the military due to his COVID vaccine mandate.
	And 8,000 are just those who were involuntarily pushed out.
	There are many more who just got out Morning in America.
	It's beautiful.
	I mean, what a wonderful thought.
	I haven't had an unfearful, positive feeling about this country in far too long.
	You know, we've had issues.
	You know, I mean, go back to 9-11.
	Since then, we've been off balance.
	You know, we have not.
	So prior to that, you know, we had issues and, oh, we had Bill Clinton and I didn't like him.
	And, you know, there were concerns.
	But we were never really on top of things.
	And I think that's, you know, that's something that if that's the one change, and of all the people, they want to talk about Donald Trump, the great disruptor and all of this, and he does all these things.
	If he's the guy who can bring that positive feeling back to the country, then he will join the great presidents.
	Can you stay for one more segment, Christina?
	I can.
	Okay, because I want to talk to you.
	She's got another great piece about the transgender potential ban and what's going on there because she is the Pentagon correspondent for Breitbart.com.
	So I'm Jim Hansen.
	We're doing America First.
	We're doing Morning in America in the afternoon.
	And we will be back after the break with some talk about what's going on coming next in the Pentagon.
	Yeah, this is fun. this is fun.
	We're going to have a party coming up soon for conservative media in the area.
	But Lucas Tomlinson is one of my neighbors.
	And so when I'm out walking with my wife, we see him and We're doing some things to try and help Pete behind the scenes make that.
	And so I'm not sure if it'll be before the end of the year.
	Probably won't be.
	But when we get to the point where, assuming Pete goes in, I want to kind of gather a posse of conservative defense writers and then everybody else who ought to be at least appreciative of that.
	So I'll let you know when it's time for that.
	I think there needs to be an openness to what's coming that overcomes the undermining that's going on that you were writing about.
	Mm-hmm.
	Yeah.
	No, that's a good point, because I think right now there's this quiet—and, you know, Democrats and never-Trumpers, I think they're quietly plotting some sort of resistance.
	I don't think it's going to be this easy.
	And you probably know this, but during the Trump administration, the Pentagon was just a cesspool of resistance.
	Even more than the State Department.
	And they hid that.
	They hid that really well.
	And it wasn't until, you know, towards the end, maybe the third or fourth year, that we realized how bad it was.
	And then they started scrambling because they put—Trump put in Kash Patel.
	And all of a sudden, everyone went scrambling and just screaming.
	Yeah, and it was too bad, you know, we all know what happened in 2020, but hopefully he can pick up and he's got the right people.
	I wonder who's going to be deputy president.
	Every name that I've heard brought up, I heard was now moved aside.
	So I'm out of ideas, you know, and I don't want to name names because some of this is insider, you know, information.
	But I don't know at this point.
	You know, I think there's a shake-up.
	Pete needs trusted insiders as much as anything.
	You know, I mentioned that when I was talking about his success will come from creating a command environment, but then you have to have people who know how to operate the levers of power, and especially in that building.
	It is such a gargantuan bureaucracy.
	So yeah, he needs a strong deputy, and hopefully they'll get there.
	You know, I... Yeah.
	And I think what I see is, though, going in now, to your point about the cesspool, they know that.
	Yeah.
	You know, there are no illusions for anybody who is going into the Trump administration about what they're up against in those agencies.
	And I think the idea that I've been trying to propagate is an empty chair is better than an enemy in your building.
	You know, so everybody, they can move out, move out, and we'll backfill as fast as we can.
	Yeah, and there's a lot of screaming.
	It's funny because there's reports kind of tell on themselves.
	So there's all these reports about General C.Q. Brown, you know, maybe getting on the chopping block and it's like, hmm, I wonder who's pushing those stories.
	People who want that chair, really!
	Shocking!
	Yeah, the backstabbing.
	It is the knight of long knives for everybody here.
	Hey Jim, do you want to do a read here?
	Um, yes.
	That would be smart.
	Welcome back to America First with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo.
	It's Jim Hansen.
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	Well, we're back with Christina Wong, the Pentagon correspondent for Breitbart.com.
	And as Andrew Breitbart said, war.
	Christina, you had another great article.
	Now, there's been a lot of talk that President Trump was going to ban all transgender troops going in day one.
	That caused a lot of controversy.
	But it doesn't appear to be the truth.
	What did you find out?
	Yeah, I think it's causing a lot of controversy by design.
	You've got, you know, whether they're leaks or rumors, you've got reports that just aren't true.
	And so there was a report by a British newspaper at the Times saying that Trump was going to, you know, get rid of all transgender troops in the military.
	And the Trump team spokeswoman, Caroline Leavitt, She shot it down.
	And she said, you know, unless it's an authorized statement that is given by authorized people from the campaign, it's fake news.
	And I think it's just malign actors trying to cause fear, consternation.
	And you see some other reports, such as You know, Trump wants to arbitrarily fire generals.
	And just there's a lot of fear-mongering right now, especially among the media of, like, supposed executive orders.
	But I think Trump will probably do something to restrict the service of transgender people.
	So, under his first administration, he overturned the Obama administration's policy to let All transgender persons and transgender troops seek surgeries and openly serve.
	And so what Trump did was he didn't ban transgender troops.
	He said they can serve as long as they serve in their biological sex or if they are stable in whatever gender they are.
	If they had transition surgery a long time ago, if they're, quote, stable, they don't have gender dysphoria, yes, they can serve.
	We'll see what he does, you know, come day one or week one or whatever.
	But right now, him supposedly getting rid of all transgender troops in the military is not true, according to his transition team.
	Fantastic.
	Thank you for that.
	And I'm not, you know, one way or the other on the policy.
	I think that's one of those things that probably should take a little time to examine, you know, do a little bit of consideration of how that's going to happen, rather than be one of those things you'd jump in and say, okay, today, pack, you know, go.
	I want to ask you about another one that I think is going to come up, I am certain, in Pete Hegseth's confirmation hearings, and that is women in combat.
	Pete was on Sean Ryan's podcast, and he came with what I consider to be a reasonable discussion of the difficulties of women in combat and said that he's not in favor of women in combat units, but he's okay with women in combat in other roles.
	Now, that's another one that I think is going to be definitely a bone of contention during his confirmation hearings.
	Are you catching any scuttlebutt about that?
	Yeah.
	Obviously, you had Senator Tammy Duckworth on the Sunday shows trying to stir up some trouble, kind of conflating his views on women in the military.
	So Pete Hegseth has said he loves women in the military.
	They've performed great service.
	That's not what he's against.
	He's against It's women serving in direct action combat roles.
	And actually, I think a lot of women, including women in the military, would agree.
	There aren't so many women signing up for infantry.
	There just aren't.
	And I covered this issue really, really closely under the Obama administration.
	And it was something that was pushed by a bunch of pro-DEI, pro-women in the military.
	And that's not the issue.
	Women definitely have a place in the military.
	They've performed heroic acts.
	But as far as having women in direct combat, I think that is a very controversial thing.
	And, you know, that will be sussed out.
	But I hope that, you know, at least the media and he will get an opportunity to present his views accurately.
	He served in combat in Iraq and Afghanistan.
	He's had the experience.
	And a lot of other, you know, troops in combat have also had experiences that don't show up in media stories, you know, horror stories.
	Sometimes there's good stories, bad stories, but it really needs to be discussed.
	And during the Obama administration, there was just this, you know, happy talk.
	This is, you know, let's give women all the full rights to do everything they want.
	There wasn't really a full vetting of the topic.
	So I think, yes, it might be controversial, but, you know, we have to be fair about what he's actually saying, you know, what women can do.
	Over the years, we've seen the standards change, even though the Obama administration, when this all And even before then, you know, said, oh, no, the standards won't be lowered.
	But in fact, they were.
	Just look at the physical fitness standards.
	You know, at one point, the Army redid their whole physical fitness test.
	And then the women started complaining, this is too hard.
	And then you started going back.
	You know, instead of the leg tuck, you now have like a one-minute plank or something like that.
	Yeah, it was one of those things where best intentions, poorly implemented, and I think it's going to be something.
	My wife is a multi-tour combat vet and a paratrooper who could probably pass any physical challenge that anybody wanted, but we need to go by standards.
	And I think that's where if we do one thing, let's get to the point where we have standards for every job, not arbitrary standards that we make up based on gender.
	Christina Wong, Pentagon correspondent for Breitbart.com.
	Follow her, watch her, you know, do everything you can.
	She knows what she's talking about.
	This is Jim Hansen.
	We're doing America First Radio.
	more after the break.
	Thank you.
	Great, great stories.
	I mean, all I had to do was tee you up and say, tell me what you wrote.
	So that's always wonderful.
	But I appreciate it.
	And let's stay in touch.
	Awesome.
	Yeah, and happy Thanksgiving.
	Same to you.
	Enjoy.
	Thank you.
	All right.
	Bye-bye.
	Do you see the Fox headline, Chiron?
	Breaking news?
	What is it?
	Israel and Lebanon.
	They did a ceasefire.
	Oh, boy.
	Israel and Lebanon, not Hamas.
	I mean, no.
	Hamas still gets to die, and that means Israel doesn't have to, you know...
	about trying to get the Lebanese to push Hezbollah back above whatever that line is 20 miles or so from the border you know which there is a UN resolution everybody agreed to so I mean that and again now there should be international pressure to support them on that and leave them alone while they go ahead and now spend all their time finishing off the last couple rats in Gaza Okay.
	We could probably talk about that.
	We got one more segment, right?
	Yes.
	The short segment.
	This hour.
	We got a couple more after that.
	Whew.
	Yeah, my wife gets fired up about the whole women in combat thing because when she was—I don't know if I'll tell this story this time, but when she was—I'm telling it now.
	John Rumble.
	When she was a lieutenant, she applied—and this was in the 90s—she applied to ranger school 13 times.
	Oof.
	And she would change, like, her name's Samantha.
	She would change it to Sam.
	You know, she'd change one number in her Social Security, and she got to the point where her commander told her she was going to get an Article 15 if she applied again.
	But the thing was, she literally, she was an Olympic-caliber gymnast.
	You know, so she was an actual stud, and she could do 100 real push-ups.
	She could do 25 pull-ups or more.
	All of the things that people say, well, women can't do this, she could do all of those, but she's probably in the top one-tenth of one percent of women physically.
	And if you look at the number who could actually do that and meet standards for a combat unit, it's tiny.
	So the question becomes, is that worth disrupting the whole shooting match over the tiny number of women who can meet those standards?
	And then they even want to serve in the military on top of that.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Yeah, and the ones in number of vanillities even less.
	Welcome back to America First with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo.
	It's Jim Hansen.
	All right.
	Hey, we just got breaking news that is relevant to what we've been talking about, national security and foreign policy.
	Israel and Lebanon have agreed to a ceasefire.
	Now, there are a lot of times recently where this whole ceasefire thing has been a trick.
	You know, the whole, it's a trap!
	And that's mostly been around Gaza, where people were trying to stop Israel from destroying Hamas and get them to allow Hamas to regroup and do all these things.
	And now we're in a different situation.
	Israel's been fighting a multi-front war, up to seven or more fronts, if you count all of the people who've been trying to destroy them.
	And out of all of those, the one that is probably the most of a major military operation is trying to fight Hezbollah.
	Hezbollah is the largest of the Iranian proxies.
	It is the best equipped.
	It is the best trained.
	It's an actual military operation.
	You know, not top tier, but a military, not a collection of terrorists like you get with Gaza and the Houthis and things like that.
	So when Israel has to fight a full-on war against a military force in Lebanon that makes it more difficult for them to do the main thing they have to do right now, which is destroy Hamas,
	end Hamas, find a way to have an interim governing force in Gaza, We're good to go.
	So that was why the operations against Hezbollah, you know, they had the beeper operation, fantastic, killing basically the entire command structure of Hezbollah, bravo, well done, you know, and then they get to the point where they had to move in and start destroying the infrastructure, destroying the rocket launchers, killing the groups that were, you know, the fighting groups.
	And basically taking back enough territory near the border that Hezbollah couldn't basically without any restrictions shoot rockets into Israel and displace those people.
	So that was not a war they wanted.
	Now, a lot of people have been saying they need to go in and fully destroy Hezbollah as well.
	But Israel's just not that big a country.
	That's a lot to bite off.
	They've been fighting for a year in Gaza, and that's not quite done.
	So they did tremendous damage to Hezbollah.
	And there is a UN resolution that requires Hezbollah to be 20-some miles from the border.
	That everybody signed off on and that Lebanon has not been enforcing.
	I haven't seen the specifics on this agreement yet.
	This just happened.
	But if that agreement includes Lebanon, the government of Lebanon, enforcing Hezbollah being required to be north of that line away from the Israeli border, Then this may be okay.
	This may be one of those times where a ceasefire is not a submission.
	A ceasefire frees Israel up to kill the rest of the Hamas scumbags that they need to and keep their southern border and that little strip safe.
	So let's hope that what it is.
	I'm going to have a positive attitude on this.
	We'll be back after the news.
	Let the Salem news people inform you, and then we'll talk some more about transition in America. . . . . . . and then we'll talk some more about transition in America. . .
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	All right, Rumble Chat.
	Normally, I guess they leave you guys hanging because the news is on and you guys don't even get to listen to that.
	That's not fair.
	How about this?
	What do you got?
	I heard one request for a steak top segment in the 5 o'clock hour.
	And I'm assuming that's somebody who caught on X. I talk about a fair amount.
	I dry age steaks.
	So I buy a big primal cut.
	And then my wife got me a nice dry-aging fridge, and I do that, and it's amazing how good it is.
	Steakhouse-quality stuff.
	So I will do that.
	But what else are you guys interested in?
	Anybody else got...
	I'll take, you know, what is it, ask me anything?
	Well, you're coming tomorrow.
	How about you bring in a grill and cook one up in the breaks for Rumble?
	That would actually be so good.
	You know, we're in a building.
	That might be a little sketchy.
	I don't think a grill in the Salem news studios will endear me to the powers that be.
	It is a holiday weekend.
	It is a holiday weekend.
	It's a holiday weekend, whatever.
	We can do what we want.
	You know what I can do?
	All right, here's what I can do.
	I actually have half of one of the big steaks from the last one left that's been in the fridge because I cut it up afterwards and just eat it cold like appetizers, like charcuterie basically.
	I'll bring that in tomorrow.
	Is this your regular kitchen you do this in or your second kitchen that you made?
	The second kitchen has the dry-aging fridge.
	I was wondering why you did that, yeah.
	Yeah, so my wife reclaimed the back seven feet of our garage, and we now have a second kitchen with full cabinets and a fridge and a dishwasher.
	It's got a, Jesus, dude, it's got a 48-inch sink.
	Like one basin, 48-inch sink with the sliding, cutting boards and stuff and everything.
	I mean, it's really pretty savage.
	How often you eat steak?
	How often?
	Well, see, because it takes 30 days to age one, we go 30 or 45 or 30 to 45. So normally I won't eat steak unless I'm eating that.
	Gotcha.
	So not that much anymore.
	So I go like a month and then I'll eat steak for a week every day.
	Rumble Chat likes they do have a cooking show.
	Someone else asks, who do you think should be a Secret Service director?
	Bongino?
	Come on, why not, man?
	I don't think they're going to give it to him, but I don't know enough about the Secret Service to have another candidate in mind, but I don't see why we can't let Bongino go in there and crack some skulls.
	I mean, my view is all pipe hitters into agencies involved with the threat or use of violence.
	So, he's a pipe hitter.
	Someone else asked, what do you think is going to happen on January 6th this time?
	Like, are they going to do something?
	Are they...
	Do they have the guts?
	You know, I have a buddy.
	My buddy Kev was in my National Guard unit after I got off active duty in Wisconsin.
	And he's my favorite crazy guy on the planet.
	He is 100% out of control.
	He wondered if Kamala would refuse to certify.
	You know, and this was before the election.
	When we were still doing this, we were talking, if Trump wins, would Kamala say, I'm just going to...
	And the Democrats boycott it.
	Say, this guy's a threat to democracy and all this.
	And they were talking a big game like that.
	And then you've got a few of them still are talking that, but I think most of them have come to heel.
	Now, since it was such a blowout, they're all going to make these big speeches about, unlike four years before, we believe in a transfer of power, peaceful and all that.
	I think they're going to do peaceful, because they all say peaceful transfer of power, because we got caught cheating and didn't get away with it.
	You know, okay, we're kind of forced into it.
	So yeah, I don't think they'll do anything, but I don't know, Antifa and the rest of those guys?
	You know, you've got the, and the Hamas mobs.
	What about the rent to Hamas mobs?
	They're all on hold for deportations.
	That's when that comes out, I think.
	That's when, yeah, that's when they start going.
	Wow, that's an interesting thought.
	That's their biggest asset they have to protect.
	Is the illegals, yeah.
	That's their future.
	Their illegals are gone, and they, yeah, they have no supermajority anymore.
	The Rust Belt goes red.
	The census kicks in in 2030, and oh man.
	Yeah, you know.
	Here's the funny thing.
	What if the illegals start voting for us?
	You know?
	That's, I wish, but no, that's not.
	That's how you get voter ID. Yeah, there you go.
	Make them regret.
	Yeah, make them start legalizing voter ID. Yeah.
	No, we just got to get the illegals out of here.
	And again, the polls show that people support mass deportations now.
	I don't see how it's going to happen.
	But they've got that big resort down in Texas, right?
	They can bring in Sheriff Joe Arpaio to talk about how you run a tent city.
	But that's when everyone talks, oh, let's freak out about the military helping with deportations.
	It's not like the 82nd Airborne is going to parachute into South Central or wherever the Hispanic neighborhoods are in L.A. What will happen is military logistics will be helping move things and set up a tent city and supply it and do all that kind of stuff.
	Military support for civilian authority, right?
	The best deportation would be just cut off the funding.
	Because this last batch that have come in, these are welfare recipients.
	It's not like the people that have come here just to work illegally.
	You know what I mean?
	In New York, they need $5.6 billion for next year for what?
	Squeeze them out.
	The self-deportation will be much more effective than any kind of thing.
	Although I am hopeful that we can cuff and stuff that weaselly little mayor up in Colorado.
	I mean, come on.
	Send Tom Holman up and just jack him and throw him in the back of a van and drive him south.
	15 seconds.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	This is America First.
	And I'm delighted to welcome our special guest host, Jim Hansen.
	Hey folks, good to be back.
	We talked a little bit with Christina Wong from Breitbart about some of the malfeasance or attempted rat screwing by existing Biden administration officials, in this case Lloyd Austin and some of the other folks in the Pentagon.
	I think there's a larger effort to go ahead and cause President Trump trouble as he comes in.
	And I think we need to deal with that because I think right now some extremely dangerous things are happening that are potentially leading to situations that the current non-commander-in-chief can't handle.
	I mean, the idea that we gave Ukraine authority to shoot long range munitions into Russia during a lame duck presidency, Biden's team got wiped out.
	Everything they believe in was disavowed by the American people.
	That included the forever war they've been pushing in Ukraine.
	Part of President Trump's promise was that we will not be having forever wars.
	We will disentangle.
	I will stop.
	Again, I think stopping it in a day is optimistic.
	Okay, he may get it done.
	I wish him well.
	However long it takes, the idea that it needs to be stopped was part of what America voted for on November 5th.
	And now we've got these lunatics, Anthony Blinken and Jake Sullivan, who are the ones running Biden's foreign policy, who are just unleashing Zelensky as if, okay, you've got to get it all done by January 20th.
	They even said that.
	I heard Blinken...
	Standing in the State Department saying, we're pushing every dime we have.
	Here's another six billion.
	Here's another half a billion.
	Everything they've got that they can legally send.
	He said, we're pushing out before January 20th.
	That is 100% a malfeasance or dereliction of duty.
	I don't know what you want to call it, but it's the kind of thing that you get a guy like that run out of that building.
	And yeah, he'll be leaving soon enough.
	But the idea that he now has created a situation, he and his friends, you know, these warmongers in the Biden administration have been pushing to escalate this all along.
	They couldn't really get away with it.
	Now, I guess they feel unleashed and they're going to go ahead and allow Zelensky because Zelensky needs this war to continue.
	All right.
	It's his entire regime is counting on it.
	The corruption they have, the fact that they don't want to lose.
	I'm not against the Ukrainians winning, but they can't.
	They can't beat Russia.
	They can't outlast Putin.
	Not going to happen.
	It was never going to happen.
	That's what's so sad about this.
	I actually sat with Sebastian Gorka in February of 2022 when this was just starting at CPAC. And we talked about this and I told him then that this was going to end with Russia keeping Donbass and Crimea.
	Okay, where are we at?
	Two and a half years plus later, all hundreds of thousands of dead, more wounded, hundreds of billions of dollars wasted, and what's going to happen?
	This is going to end with Russia keeping Donbass and Crimea.
	Congratulations, people.
	Congratulations, all you people.
	And especially now, the ones of you who are so obsessed by this that you're willing to risk World War III, which is a legitimate concern right now, because you're not willing to admit it's over.
	Your forever war will not last forever.
	And I am disgusted by that.
	I'm disgusted that they would do it.
	I'm scared.
	I am legitimately scared that in the interim that someone's not talking to Putin telling him, dude, January 20th, I know they're killing your people, kill some more of theirs, but do not jump to the next step.
	Because Putin's got a lot more capability to make this ugly than the Ukrainians do, sending our missiles to attack Russian positions.
	Putin has every bit of nastiness that no one wants to be used again, and he's got the potential to use it.
	He was never going to take a loss.
	I mean, come on.
	Vlad sees himself as one of the great Russian strongmen.
	Right, wrong, or indifferent?
	He's a tyrant.
	He's a horrible person.
	He sees Vlad the Vicious in the same way as Catherine the Great, Ivan the Terrible, Peter the Great.
	He wants to go down as one of the great Russian strongmen.
	And there was absolutely zero chance he was ever gonna take a loss from a cross-dressing Ukrainian comic like Zelensky.
	Now I give Zelensky credit.
	If Russia had attacked the United States, I would be doing everything I could to defend my country.
	But this is not.
	Ukraine is not my country.
	What Ukraine is fighting for are not the rights or safety or security of us in the United States.
	There's a case to be made that what they're doing is making us all safer by ensuring that Russia can't do anything in Europe.
	But you need to think about something if that's your argument.
	After two plus years of war, all Russia's brand new fanciest equipment got wiped out in the first phase.
	They've been kicking out replacement stuff, but they've been fighting with lesser troops, lesser equipment, and just the massive industrial capability of Russia.
	To produce people and munitions in a way that Ukraine, even with all the help everybody gave them, was never going to be able to overcome.
	So the idea that even though they're holding ground, the best they're doing is holding that one crescent on the Russian border in eastern Ukraine that they're going to keep.
	They haven't been able to push any farther, and they're not going to be able to push any farther before Trump gets into office.
	What could happen is empowering and telling Zelensky, this is your last chance.
	Do it now.
	You got to do it now or you'll lose your chance forever.
	He may cause something stupid to happen and have this escalate.
	But what needs to happen is a recognition that Putin and Russia right now are near zero threat.
	Not near zero.
	They're a small threat to Western Europe, to any NATO country.
	Everything other than Ukraine to the West Is NATO. He's not going to fight NATO. He couldn't even beat Ukraine by himself.
	You know, when they first invaded, everyone thought, oh, he'll drive straight to Kiev, myself included.
	I assumed it would be a cakewalk, you know, a thunder run down the highways.
	But it turned out that Putin's oligarch friends did not spend the money they were spending on defense wisely.
	They didn't bill him the logistics of And, you know, all the supply-related transportation-type stuff, he needed to have an expeditionary military.
	They got bogged down, they got slaughtered, and they almost lost.
	Now, he's barely recovered, and he is no way going to turn and roll tanks west when he's facing not just the Ukrainian military, which he was facing at the beginning and couldn't beat.
	He'd be facing the actual...
	Fully capable, modern, badass NATO military, which would include us.
	Because the second he rolls into a NATO country...
	Article 5 of the NATO treaties invoked and common defense, we are in the war.
	He can't do that.
	So he's not a threat to do it.
	So, okay, his nose has been bloody.
	Great.
	The people who thought it was a great idea to have the Ukrainians fight a proxy war to grind down Russian military capabilities, congratulations.
	You got your wish.
	For two years, We've spent Ukrainian lives and the Russians have spent their lives to create a quagmire there that nobody did anything and the only people who benefited were the defense contractors.
	But now it's time to get back to reality, to start thinking strategically again, and not just allow that military, industrial, forever war complex to get its wish.
	We need to be done.
	Ukraine war is canceled.
	All right?
	We'll deal.
	And Trump will deal with Putin.
	He will find a way to get that stopped.
	He'll find a way to get Zelensky in line.
	And this is going to end.
	And it needs to end.
	Because the idea of pushing this to the point where either Vlad was deposed or the Russians were defeated in some way or pushed even all the way out of the territory they've taken in Ukraine was a long shot at best.
	And it just didn't happen.
	I'm sorry.
	You know, I would have been okay with it.
	It's not like I wanted Putin to win.
	I don't want Putin to win.
	Putin gets a victory out of this in some way, shape, or form because he's gonna keep Crimea and he's gonna have taken those Russian-speaking provinces in Donbass.
	Okay, that sucks.
	You know, from a reality perspective, that sucks.
	You don't want tyrants to get something good out of their bad actions.
	But you also don't want to say that stopping a tyrant from getting some sort of Pyrrhic victory, which this was for Putin at best, and maybe not fully Pyrrhic, partially Pyrrhic victory, whatever, it was not a pure win.
	He lost the beginning of this, and it took two plus years to recover.
	All right, so let's find a way for him to save face, for Zelensky to save face.
	I'm sorry for the people in Donbass that don't want to be part of Russia, but I think if you look at the maps around there over the past thousand years, there have been an awful lot of border changes.
	This is one more.
	We'll see how long it lasts.
	But it's time to end the war in Ukraine.
	I'm Jim Hansen.
	We got more America First Radio coming for you right after the break.
	Not in the studio though this time.
	I know, man.
	I don't get to see the kicks.
	The boots?
	Oh, yeah.
	Ah, come on.
	Everybody's got stuff to do.
	It's a busy time.
	Very busy time right about now.
	Okay, I wasn't planning on doing an 11-minute rant.
	No, it turned out nicely.
	I had a lot to say about Ukraine.
	I can tell, yeah.
	I imagine that's the easier of the two wars to end.
	Yeah, I mean, we basically decide that.
	If we say it's over, it's over.
	I mean, it's not like Putin's not going to accept the peace.
	Everyone says, oh no, Putin has not been open to that.
	Bullshit.
	We told him and we told Zelensky to stop talking peace.
	We told both of them, the Brits did, back a year and a half ago.
	So nobody has actually tried to make peace.
	We just do these because the Biden administration didn't want it.
	They wanted to fight against Putin as a stand-in for Trump.
	Yup.
	That's literally what it is.
	It 100% is.
	It started that way and it escalated and none of them are willing to admit it.
	So, screw those guys.
	Watch Trump negotiate a peace deal and everything and they'll accuse him of Russian collusion again because he has to give up some Ukrainian territory.
	Hey!
	Is that a Trump?
	Hey, what's up?
	What's your J? Is it Trump Vance or Trump Pence?
	Trump Vance.
	Trump Vance.
	I would never.
	I was trying to see if you were being funny somehow.
	Absolutely not.
	That looks good, buddy.
	Thank you.
	You got Tucker on the wall?
	I got Tucker back there.
	Let me figure out the Bluetooth situation.
	One second.
	Okay.
	We hear you clearly right now for what it's worth.
	No, the mic is good.
	good.
	You are coming out of my computer and not my, um, all right.
	I think I... Do you guys...
	Okay, I can talk if that helps.
	All right.
	That's great.
	I got it.
	We're all set.
	All right.
	Can you do two segments or one?
	I can do two.
	Let me shut my door.
	Okay.
	So the door can stay open for one, but...
	What's that?
	The door can stay open for one segment, but it's got to close for two.
	That was the implication.
	That was the implication.
	Dude, it's your world.
	You run it how you want, man.
	So you sharing the joy and mourning in America feeling?
	Yeah.
	This was incredible.
	It is.
	It feels...
	So it's so funny because 2016 was great.
	And it felt a lot like this.
	But there was like a naivete to it.
	Yeah.
	In that we didn't know what we were going to be up against.
	Now we know.
	And he's putting the right people in there.
	It's going to be really good.
	All right.
	Well, yeah.
	Well, let's talk about shredding the censorship industrial complex.
	Yeah.
	Because they're pissing me off.
	Sounds good.
	Yeah, dude.
	I mean, we're now the media.
	I've been reliably informed.
	We are.
	It's more normal for me to say that when I'm sitting at home talking shit on my back terrace, you know, as opposed to sitting in a TV studio on Salem News.
	But...
	40 seconds.
	The point is still valid.
	Oh, yeah.
	All right, man.
	Well, we don't need to practice because I know we're going to kill this.
	I can't wait.
	30 seconds. 30 seconds.
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	Welcome back to America First with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo.
	It's Jim Hansen.
	Oh, a little Skinnered in the bump music.
	Yeah, always get me rolling.
	Hey, I'm pleased to be joined right now by John Schweppe, Policy Director for the American Principles Project.
	And I have a policy I would like to discuss with you, Mr. Schweppe.
	I am a little bit sick of the censorship industrial complex, which has been running rampant in our government, in our media, in all of the social and tech companies.
	All those people have been trying to shut me up, and I'm sick of it.
	Are you ready?
	What can we do?
	If you were put in charge as the crushing the censorship complex czar, what's the first thing you would do?
	Well, first thing we got to do is fire all these people because a lot of them are funded by our tax dollars.
	And so I think that's going to be a critical job for Congress and President Trump's team working with Congress.
	Is making sure that we're not funding any of these disinformation experts.
	You know, I keep seeing all these posts on Twitter coming to us courtesy of Blue Sky of these misinformation experts who have spent the last several years.
	This is their PhD.
	And they're crying because they know that their time is over.
	We believe in free speech in this country.
	And, you know, I think that's what we're really trying to push here.
	That's what, you know, Elon pushed when he bought X. And so, you know, I'm hopeful that that can be a top goal for this administration, is make sure that what happened in 2020, and to a lesser degree in 2024, never ever happens again.
	So, and that's kind of where I'm at.
	You know, there became this idea that when the misinformation and disinformation concept, which stems from, you know, the idea back, all right, let's go back, Soviet Union.
	Between all of their stuff, they did a great job of creating a disinformation worldwide network.
	And they did a lot of it at American universities, where all bad ideas go to get worse.
	So out of that grew this idea that somehow, mis- and disinformation could become a way to use- to shut up your enemies.
	You know, to basically say, I don't like what you're saying, so it's misinformation, and I will use whatever powers I have to shut you up.
	And as you mentioned, a lot of this stuff is happening through grants to these organizations where they say, oh, we want to keep elections safe.
	We don't want misinformation about elections coming out.
	What if they say it's on the wrong day?
	Like Douglas Mackey, who they threw in jail for a meme.
	You know, all of those things have come to play.
	So we need to stop that.
	But then we need to get back and let's go a step further.
	Let's go beyond stopping the misinformation, disinformation piece of it.
	And let's just say it's none of your damn business what we're talking about if you're related to the government in any way.
	Yeah, and I think actually we should be looking back at government agencies and bureaucrats who used this to go censor Americans' free speech.
	You know, those people should be facing, you know, all sorts of It's a violation of our civil rights.
	So I hope that's a big part of this.
	But, you know, look, at the end of the day, we live in America.
	Free speech has to reign supreme.
	All this stuff about misinformation and disinformation, you know, that is a hallmark of authoritarianism.
	Right?
	I was watching, just a couple months ago, I went back and watched Babylon 5. You might remember that.
	Oh yeah.
	And the authoritarian regime in this sci-fi show was talking about misinformation and disinformation because that is how the powerful suppress dissent.
	And so I think it's really critical that we make sure this can't happen in this country.
	There can't be any excusing it.
	I don't care if we're talking about science or politics or social issues.
	Everyone should be able to say what they want to say and debate it in the public square.
	And if they deserve ridicule, let the market sort this out.
	Let the American people sort this out.
	We do a pretty good job of that, actually.
	You know, one of the greatest examples of that has been community notes on X. All right, Elon's like, okay, everybody thinks they're smarty pants, right?
	If you want to comment on what someone says, himself included, on X, then submit your stuff.
	You go in.
	You know, you prove that you're willing to be at least a semi-honest broker.
	And then people go ahead and the community, the Army of Davids, to use Instapundit, one of the great pioneers of the online world, who's now back on X, Glenn Reynolds, stud, but use the power of that to go ahead and come to a reasonable understanding that it requires both sides to agree that something's wrong.
	And then we can go ahead and say, and we're not even going to remove it.
	We're just going to put a sign up that says, hey, everything that guy just said is BS. You know, it's kind of the Joe Pesci concept.
	That, to me, is a much better way to deal.
	You know, more speech as opposed to censoring speech.
	And I think now the power of X in this election has shown that no one's going to be able to get away with the lies and garbage they did or the censoring of ideas they don't want to hear.
	No, we actually just saw an example on X where Elon Musk retweeted an attack on Pete Buttigieg about the amount of money that went towards these EV chargers.
	And Buttigieg, to his credit, actually responded, gave a detailed explanation of why the meme was incorrect, and then Community Notes adjusted it.
	And this is how the free marketplace of ideas is supposed to work.
	It can work in the benefit of both the left and the right.
	So I think it's really important that this becomes the expectation.
	This idea that the left really embraced over the last several years that authorities and experts should be able to have the final say And anyone who disagrees is dangerous, you know, is, I think, frankly, anti-American.
	And Trump is showing, I think, with his appointments and, you know, the folks he's surrounding himself with, RFK over at HHS, you know, we're gonna start questioning the folks who have been telling us that we can't ask questions.
	And I think that's fair, and we should be willing to do that.
	And they've been wrong.
	They've been egregiously, embarrassingly wrong.
	So the idea that we're going to say, oh no, the experts trust the science.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm trusting no one.
	I never trusted the government to start with.
	So I think if you get to the point now where we've at least got mechanisms to do that, I think we're all in a better place.
	So is Elon as the dogemeister going to make that part of his purview?
	Well, I think he has the potential to crowdsource a lot of these ideas.
	One of the biggest problems with government, even when it's Republican government, is maybe some activist has a good idea, but it's hard to kind of socialize it and get it up the chain to where the administration might do something about it.
	Elon is going to crowdsource all of this.
	So if there's any spending anywhere in the budget that's wasteful, You better believe it's going to come out.
	So I think this is going to be—look, we do have a real debt crisis on our hands.
	I know that really wasn't a big part of the campaign, but it is a really critical existential issue.
	And so if they're addressing some of this wasteful spending and getting rid of it right out of the gate, I think that's going to be really good and hopefully a good role for Vivek and for Elon.
	Well, it's nice to see that we're going to actually look at things that could take the country down.
	We're at the point now where the debt is so large that it's almost incomprehensible, even to people who handle big numbers.
	I went $37 trillion and growing a gazillion dollars a second.
	I mean, we don't have that kind of cash.
	I looked.
	You know, I went and looked.
	I went with Nicolas Cage.
	We checked in all the usual spots.
	We do not have that much money.
	So we either figure out a way to deal with it by starting to, you know, slow down the spending a little bit, or we're going to be toast.
	Well, we're going to be back after the break and talk with John Chamorro about how we actually can push our ideas forward as opposed to just not being censored.
	This is Jim Hansen.
	We're doing America First Radio.
	back after the break.
	All right.
	So you were Terry going in?
	Give us a scoop, man.
	Mics are hot.
	No, we'll see what happens.
	But I will just tell you, I love my perch out here.
	It's a lot of fun.
	I know the feeling.
	You know, I mean, it's hard to consider...
	Actually going to work every day and having to do a job.
	And the problem is, I always said there was only one job in government I ever actually saw, looked at, and said I wanted.
	And that was in the first term, when Bannon was whispering crazy shit in Trump's ear.
	I said, I'd take that job.
	If I could sit next to the Donald and go, dude, okay, here's what we're going to do.
	Short of that, I don't want to go in and have a real job and responsibilities.
	There is some freedom in that, being an advisor, being at the top there.
	But I'll tell you, I think we're going to get some really good people in this admin.
	This is the difference from four years ago, is that everyone's fully aware of what we're up against now.
	I think we were romanticizing it back in 2016. Yeah, it's going to be pretty exciting.
	We'll get some good people in there.
	We'll have a lot of friends in, hopefully.
	I am giggling a little bit.
	I'm sitting in a guy's chair.
	I'm happy he's in the administration.
	I'm looking at the number of people going into the administration who have been to my house is a really good feeling for our ability to have some fun.
	And I want to sit on the outside.
	That's what we did last time.
	We were on the outside running a think tank supporting The ideas of the administration.
	And I think that's another place I might be very comfortable because I'd have a hard time.
	Like I said, I'm not good at bureaucracies.
	I mean, I was in the army, but I was also in special forces.
	And I was also a problem child in special forces.
	You know, so go right down the chain of am I going to be happy in any kind of a bureaucracy?
	Not likely.
	No, I think about these hearings where you have Democrat senators asking the most insane questions and how the people always have to be so kind to them.
	I would much rather be on the outside.
	Yeah, making fun because I'll live tweet that hearing and I'll talk smack.
	It's funny for me how many people I know who hit me on the back channel and say, dude, I live vicariously through your ex-feed because you say the things I can't.
	And I don't want to lose that because someone has to do that.
	There's a value to saying the mean things and being a little bit savage with these people and not treating them with respect that they don't deserve.
	Because that faux respect you give, like you said, in a hearing in Congress, screw that, man.
	I want to come up with my hand and choke them.
	Choke yourself!
	No, that's why I love what Nancy Mace is doing with this bathrooms thing.
	She's giving no respect.
	She's just saying how it should be said.
	I kind of love it.
	It's not very typical of Congress at all.
	No, no.
	It's refreshing, but I think you nailed it.
	We know what happened last time, and we're not going to play nice as if they're going to follow the rules.
	They proved they won't.
	So now we're like, okay, you guys picked the rules.
	You're not going to like it when we start playing by them.
	I mean, think about, like, going back to 2017, would your average normie Republican have seen three-letter agencies as enemies?
	Right?
	No!
	But after what we saw with Russiagate and all this, no, man.
	Like, we're going for it all.
	And I think it's going to be a real fight.
	All right.
	About ten seconds.
	Welcome back to America First with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo.
	It's Jim Hansen.
	Happy to be back.
	Happy to still be talking with John Schweppe, Policy Director for the American Principles Project.
	Okay, back to policies and projects and stuff.
	Brendan Carr, FCC. What fun that could be.
	What are your thoughts?
	What can he do?
	Oh my gosh, he can do quite a bit, actually.
	I mean, he's been one of the most outspoken people against the censorship industrial complex.
	And he's also very much interested in how we can interpret Section 230 and start to revisit some of these absurd court rulings that have insulated the big tech companies.
	So I think he's going to be an ally.
	And, you know, having him in that chair position, hopefully we'll do away with some of the craziness on the left coming out of there and, you know, be able to, again, continue to push back on censorship writ large.
	So my view, I never want the government doing anything because they suck at it.
	You know, basically anything the government does is going to be suboptimal.
	I would prefer, in this case, the threat of Brendan Carr and all the things he can do.
	Now, some of it we'll have to do, but the threat of that and then the allyship of Elon Musk and the Silicon Valley tech bros who are coming along with him.
	There's a change, I think, in the mentality in the tech world.
	That woke is broke.
	Okay, that's gone.
	Corporate-wide, that's being destroyed.
	So I think they can no longer just be money machines for the woke agenda who make cool toys.
	They have to get back to doing what they do.
	And I think I'd like to think that we can do the right thing, which is where government and industry kind of look at each other and say, okay, maybe we went a little bit too far here.
	Let's right the ship and go the other direction.
	Yeah, I think that's possible.
	I mean, certainly, you know, this is like what Trump is doing with the tariffs, right?
	That these are not, you know, our ideal permanent economic solution, but that it's something that will, frankly, coerce Well, that's too bad.
	The FCC current administration took John Schweppi off the air for us.
	But I get what he was saying.
	Trump is using tariffs as a pain point to get...
	Countries, in this case Canada and Mexico to start with, have already started agreeing.
	Mexico's agreed that they're going to try and stop the migrant caravans.
	And even Trudeau up in Canada said he'll do that.
	So I finished your thought and said Trump's using those to force Mexico to stop the migrant caravans and Trudeau to start helping as well.
	But now you can jump back in with the rest of your point.
	Thank you for making my point.
	Yeah, no, and then, you know, I think that's going to be how it is here with tech.
	So censorship, you know, in the 2024 election, I think the threat of, you know, Elon Musk, there being a free speech platform, it kind of autocorrected the market to where you're not seeing...
	You know, Google, obviously, they do their sneaky stuff.
	And so that's got to be the hope going forward, is that the threat of action, you know, the threat of Section 230 reform when we have a trifecta, the threat of having Brendan Carr and others in there willing to put the pressure on these guys to not have the censorship anymore, hopefully that'll do the trick.
	But I will say, Jim, I still think we need Section 230 reform because we have to recognize that the Democrats, as soon as they have the opportunity again, They're gonna censor us again, right?
	Like, it's just a matter of practical politics.
	And so I don't think we can assume that the days of censorship are gone just because we temporarily pushed back on their power.
	Well, then let's do that.
	Let's do Section 230 reform.
	The other one I want is, I want him, we've got to take action.
	I think you're right that Metta is doing less.
	I think Zuckerberg's actually moving back to talk to and reach out to the right.
	And I don't think he was ever the problem at Metta.
	It was his board.
	He was more of a free speech guy.
	His board was woke.
	Now, I want him to break up Google, though.
	Google answers 90 plus percent of all questions on the internet and they answer it with a leftist filter we can't tolerate.
	So would you be okay with breaking up pieces of Google?
	Oh, yeah.
	No, I think that'd be the dream.
	But part of it is that we're going to have to see how these appointments do.
	And so I'm very excited about Pam Bondi over at DOJ. She's going to have the power to put some folks in their antitrust division that can hopefully continue the work of the first Trump administration.
	And then we also have eyes on the Federal Trade Commission.
	Who's going to be the chair over there?
	Who's going to be the next person appointed?
	And will they want to go down this road?
	So I think we all recognize that part of the problem with the censorship industrial complex is that these companies are so powerful.
	There's so much concentrated power there that if Google decides to do something, it basically affects the entire country.
	And so I think breaking them up, making it where we have real competitive markets would actually go a long way towards fighting censorship.
	Well, from your mouth across the airwaves to the new Trump appointees, let's make some changes.
	Hey, I want to open up the phones, 833-333-GORCA, 833-334-6752.
	I want to hear from you.
	But I want to thank John Schweppe, who is Policy Director for American Principles Project, a great organization.
	He's on X. He's got a substack, S-C-H-W-E-P-P-E, John with no H. This is Jim Hansen with an H in the Hansen part.
	and we'll be back after the break right on Oh boy!
	Alright.
	Nice save there.
	The deep state got us.
	He got enough of his point out that I knew where he was going.
	Finish his sentences for him.
	That's a true friend right there.
	you can finish someone's sentence for him William Cohen And... pfff...
	I want to break up Google.
	That's definitely on my list.
	That would be pretty great.
	Those bastards.
	My son-in-law works for Meta, and he does some cool stuff for them, but...
	I think Meta can be saved.
	Because, like I said, I think Zuckerberg is not the actual problem, and he is now, with Elon as the trailblazer, he's basically saying, you know, I don't want to be on the side with the woke censors.
	You know, I want to be a free speech guy, too.
	I don't even think it was important.
	I never thought it was Zuckerberg.
	I mean, he's left, but I don't think he wanted to just censor anything.
	It was the government coming down on them.
	That's true.
	Remember, right after they blamed the whole 2016 election on Facebook and all that stuff, and they brought him up, I think they scared the hell out of him.
	Yeah, no, I think that's fair because it was the fact that they kept putting out these things that all of the top stories on Facebook are Ben Shapiro telling lies, which weren't lies.
	But I mean, that's just what happened was Daily Wire figured out how to game the system, and they kicked ass.
	And they had good content.
	Part of it was they advertised like crazy.
	Yeah, they bought eyeballs, but they also then they got viral eyeballs.
	They got organic reach.
	And I understand.
	I think you're right, because that created a backlash when the left was looking for excuses for why did we lose?
	Oh, well, everybody's lying on Facebook.
	And that was part of the start of the censorship.
	When Zuckerberg admitted the thing about the Hunter Biden thing on the Joe Rogan thing, he didn't really act like he was even breaking news.
	I don't think he even really thought it was a big deal of what he did.
	You know what I mean by censoring?
	It's like, oh, well, you're supposed to listen to him.
	That was the whole mentality.
	Yep.
	No, I think that's fair.
	Speaking of which, by the way, Meta just said that they removed all sub stuff after four years.
	He's verified now.
	They just get rid of his bogus accounts.
	We can live stream everything.
	That's all happened today.
	You want to go in and do another one of those reads here?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	That's smart.
	And then I think I will throw a shout out to Robbie.
	Let me try not to read the email part of it this time.
	Dumbass.
	Did you guys catch that last time?
	I had a feeling you were reading something.
	It's okay.
	I think you pulled through.
	I tried to segue out of it, but yeah, I definitely was reading the Dear Seven team, here's the information we're giving you for the thing you're supposed to read on the air.
	And Dear Jim, don't read this, you dumbass.
	Yeah.
	What's worth, too, I remember Jeff, what he just said about Zuckerberg, he said similar things about Dorsey as well.
	You said you also don't think Dorsey is really hard left?
	Dorsey's more left than Zuckerberg, but he was also the kind of left that I can tolerate.
	He wasn't the kind of guy whose decision was to get Trump off and all that stuff.
	You know what I mean?
	Yeah.
	Like, he wasn't even there when it happened.
	Yeah, and the internal comms when they come out and anytime he was involved.
	The End
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	It's Jim Hansen.
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	Thank you.
	Hey, one of the things that is going to be a feature of the second Trump administration, shock and awe, I guess.
	I don't know.
	I think that's been used.
	Is the idea that we are going to root out DEI and the discrimination that it brings with it.
	From all government agencies.
	I think that's one of the things that may be very early.
	I've seen some executive orders that talk about eliminating that, that might be ready for one of those nice Donald Trump signatures very early in the game.
	And that, I think, is vital.
	There is nothing more pernicious to our unity as a culture and a country than racial, sexual, or some other kind of discrimination.
	And DEI is institutional discrimination.
	Equity means that you are going to assure equality of outcome, not equality of opportunity.
	Now even equality of opportunity should never be mandated.
	It should be an aspirational goal.
	We should want everyone to have a chance to achieve all they can, and we as a country should strive to create those conditions.
	Government should not mandate those.
	And government absolutely should not mandate equality of outcome.
	I mean, if we decide that we're going to have the same percentage of people in executive boardrooms or on, I don't know, NFL teams or NBA teams, based on the number of people by percentage that represents in the general populace, we end up in chaos and it's just flat wrong.
	So that needs to happen that, as far as I know and hope, will be happening early and often in the Trump administration.
	It has to be rooted out.
	It's wrong.
	The budgets for those organizations should be cut, destroyed.
	That's money we can better use other places.
	And I think there's a follow-on to that that's happening in the corporate world.
	And I want to give a shout-out to my good buddy, Robbie Starbuck.
	Some of you may know him, some may not.
	But Robbie was a Hollywood...
	Video and movie producer, very successful, living the life, and decided that that was no place for him to raise his family.
	So he walked away from that, moved outside of Nashville, and decided to work full-time to make this country great again.
	And he has been doing a phenomenal job.
	One of the things he has been doing for the past almost a year is outing corporate entities that have horrible DEI programs that are blatantly discriminatory.
	And he started a whistleblower program.
	People send him information.
	He takes that information.
	He evaluates it.
	He fact checks it.
	He does all those things.
	And then he takes it to the corporation.
	And he's done this with John Deere and Harley Davidson.
	And just this week, Walmart, who had a very horrible DEI program and an entire discriminatory thing going on.
	And he got them to root it out, got them to remove it.
	He's done that with Caterpillar and other companies where he goes to them and he says, look, you're doing this.
	It's wrong.
	You need to stop.
	And he's got two levers for that.
	Number one, He's a master communicator.
	He knows how to go ahead and push a message and create the collateral materials that will make it successful.
	And he looks those corporate executives in the eye and he says, "Do you really want me making a kick-ass video about how awful you are and destroying your stock price, you know, and causing you all these problems?
	Or do you want to do the right thing?" And he's got a second thing on his side.
	It's against the law to discriminate based on race or sex or any of these other categories.
	You can't do it.
	The Civil Rights Act of 1964 absolutely forbids it, among other things.
	There's other equal protection under the 14th Amendment.
	There are a number of things, and most states have laws that say you can't do this.
	So there's any number of legal means to go ahead and stop this.
	But what was happening is because the corporations had fallen under the sway of the woke mind virus, they were going ahead and And doing these programs and clapping and telling each other how great it was and, oh, our percentages are up.
	But they started basing their executive pay and other managerial pay on meeting what are essentially quotas.
	And the laws read it doesn't have to say you will achieve a 13 percent of black people because that's how many black people there are in the populace.
	to get your bonus the laws say all you have to do is pressure these executives and managerial class so that they know that their bonuses and their performance evaluations are going to be judged based on how many quotas that don't exist they meet So, Robbie figured all that out, and he's been kicking butt and taking names, and he's busy with his family.
	I hope they have a joyous Christmas, because he's made the holiday season better for all of us by forcing some of these companies to get back to the all-men people.
	Okay, whatever.
	All people are created equal.
	I just self-censored myself.
	It's the right thing to do.
	You treat people equally.
	You judge them based on their merit.
	You do not discriminate for any reason based on immutable physical characteristics.
	You give people the opportunity.
	You try to make things better.
	You try to help those who aren't doing as well.
	But you do not game the system to get the outcome you want.
	That's wrong.
	That's un-American.
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	I forgot how much hard this is.
	- Yes.
	This actually takes a little work.
	Again, you make it seem effortless, honestly.
	Dude, okay.
	It's funny.
	I always walk out of here going, I feel like I just road-marched 12 miles carrying 75 pounds.
	And all I did was sit in a chair and flap my gums for a couple hours.
	Some do at least the top of the hour break.
	What's that?
	You go right through it.
	You don't even do the top of the hour break.
	You just go right through it with rumble.
	So you're like a true three-hour.
	You're actually doing a full three-hour, technically speaking, yeah.
	Because all the guest hosts like to have the mics off and the breaks.
	Because they're gutless chicken weasels.
	Hang on, let me ring up all the other guest hosts.
	Yeah, put them on blast.
	Step up.
	Just tee up a tweet with all their names on it and say, Jim Hansen just called you sissies out.
	How dare they not hang out with the Rumble Chat people?
	They're the kind of savages I like.
	They're my people.
	I was them.
	Before I was sitting in this chair, I was talking smack in comment sections on some of the first bulletin boards online.
	I love that little factoid, like the ancient history of the internet.
	Yeah.
	It's a real thing.
	Someone in the Rumble chat says, slow down, Uncle Jimbo, don't burn out.
	I'm not going to burn out.
	Don't you worry.
	I have a great mental health regimen.
	I go in my music room.
	I listen to great music.
	I have a wonderful life.
	And it's all venting.
	That's the thing, you know.
	People say, why do you seem so angry?
	I say, I'm not angry.
	I'm venting.
	I get it out.
	I hopefully make good things happen from it.
	And then I giggle, you know.
	Whoa, we just got a big Super Chat on Rumble for $20 from tbrooks123, who says, Thank you, Jim.
	Hate the silence during the breaks.
	Well, there you go.
	Thank you for caring.
	Like I said, I appreciate the people who want to make this interactive.
	You know, that's why I'm going to take some callers.
	It's the same thing.
	You know, the Rumble Chat is online callers, and that's the game.
	I think we're a team, and we're better if we kick ass together.
	All right, 30 seconds.
	final segment of this hour.
	The End
	Welcome back to America First with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo.
	It's Jim Hansen.
	Right on.
	Happy to be sitting here while Dr. Gorka is doing his montage that they always do in the movies where he's training.
	He's chasing chickens and he's doing stuff getting ready to start killing terrorists come January.
	Alright, I've been flapping my gums enough.
	I want to take a call and hear what you have to say.
	How about we check in with Craig from Central PA. What's on your mind?
	Hey Jim, thanks for taking my call.
	I just heard you guys kind of allude a little bit to the national debt, and there's a number I want to throw out there for everyone just to kind of bring it to reality because it's so astronomical.
	Every trillion dollars is about $3,000 a per.
	So you can always take the national debt, times it by $3,000, and that's what you owe For yourself.
	And that's every man, woman, and child.
	So right now it's a little over $100,000 per person for every man, woman, and child in the United States.
	So you got a family of four, you're up for $400,000.
	I don't think I should owe a half a million because a bunch of idiot elected officials wanted to get re-elected and are spending our money like drunken sailors.
	Hey, I had a friend who came up with what I thought was, you know, because they always thought, what if we default on the debt?
	Okay, and we don't want to.
	All right, that's not ideal, but we could.
	It could happen.
	And his idea was we have kind of a friends, families, and enemies default on the debt.
	And hey, friends, you get 60 cents on the dollar.
	Frenemies, your friends and family get the good rate.
	Frenemies, you get somewhere in the 20 to 40 cents on the dollar.
	And the Chinese?
	Screw you guys.
	You get nothing.
	What are you going to do about it?
	Interesting.
	Could happen.
	Probably not the preferred technique.
	Maybe we just stop spending as much.
	We should hire some crazed tech guy and some pitch guy from ShamWow to go ahead and do that for us.
	I want to talk now to Scott from Florida.
	What's up, man?
	Yeah, hello?
	Yeah, hey, Scott.
	What do you got?
	Yeah, hey, Jim.
	Hey, real quick.
	It's simple.
	The Secretary of Labor pick, Laura Chavez, I was reading some stuff.
	She seems to have real closeness with unions.
	And I just wondered, you know, some of these picks, maybe they're a little bit too liberal, you know, whatever.
	And my personal opinion on unions is I don't think they should be able to donate money to unions.
	I think unions are a problem.
	And I'll tell you right now, government unions, I think, are going the way of the weasel during the early part of the Trump administration.
	Because government unions is ganging up and negotiating against us They're paymasters?
	You know, no.
	I mean, that's garbage.
	The rest of the unions, you know, there's a lot around that.
	I think they're, in many cases, drags on their corporations.
	And they were necessary at one point and may not be anymore.
	So I think there's ways around that.
	But I would agree.
	Let's look at unions overall and let's definitely wipe out government unions at every level.
	They are bad for everybody.
	Okay, we're going to let the Salem news folks give you guys the happening stuff, and we'll be back at the top of the hour six minutes or so after.
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	So Rumble Chat, just so you know, 4 o'clock hour tomorrow is me and Schlichter for the whole hour.
	It's the Warlords reunion, and we're going to be unleashed.
	He was on fire.
	Do you think anyone in Rumble Chat, without Googling it, knows what the Labor Secretary does?
	Yeah, no, that's fair.
	I'm literally Googling it right now to figure this out.
	It's a symbolic thing, and I think it was a good pick.
	And I think she'll probably get confirmed easily.
	She's got nowhere else to go.
	She lost her seat in Congress this year.
	Oh yeah, the Rumble chat loves it.
	Yes!
	Yes, more lords!
	Alright, two minutes.
	Mr. Crittenden, can you hear us?
	I can hear you.
	I've been sending messages to you.
	I've been trying to get you onto the other Skype.
	The one that's inside my computer so we can have better quality, but that's fine.
	This is good.
	Can you hear me?
	We don't have your picture.
	We can hear you, but we can't see you yet at the moment.
	Let me figure that out.
	That's why I wanted to go through the computer thing, but never mind.
	We'll use the phone.
	What do I have to do here?
	There should be a camera icon somewhere.
	Yeah, there should be.
	All I'm seeing is a screen with your face on it.
	Let me try calling you back.
	Sometimes it doesn't work the first time.
	Sorry.
	All right, dialing him back.
	Oh, yeah, Rumble Chat's going to be tuning in tomorrow.
	There it is.
	Hey, that's your big old melon.
	Now move back.
	Well, I mean...
	That's even worse.
	Alright.
	I don't want to know what body part that was.
	That was my hand.
	And you've got a dirty mind.
	Rightio.
	How's that?
	Love that background.
	Are you there?
	He's working to get as many guns in the shot as possible.
	Just 30 seconds.
	Ooh, I see the Duke!
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Try and get this.
	Alright, we're 15 seconds out, so get your camera squared away.
	Alright.
	Let me do something with the light, not everything.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	This is America First.
	And I'm delighted to welcome our special guest host, Jim Hansen.
	I am delighted to be entering the third hour of morning in America in the afternoon, happy times here in the hills overlooking the swamp.
	You know, we are across the river from the swamp here in the Salem News studios.
	And because Seb Gorka is going to become our Senior Director for Counterterrorism in the National Security Council, I'm sitting in his chair today.
	So I want to bring in someone that I've known for quite a while, and he's done a lot of work.
	He is a compadre of mine from back in the first Special Forces group days.
	His name is Pete Crittenden, and he is trying to adjust his camera so he can get both John Wayne and all the rifles in his rack into the picture.
	I think you've done it.
	That's it.
	It's perfect.
	Don't move.
	Sorry.
	Sorry about it.
	You're going to have to hold it with your hand.
	But hey, Pete, welcome to the show.
	Thanks.
	It's a pleasure being here, I should say.
	Yeah, and I want to go ahead and introduce people to a couple things.
	First of all, you're the author of Survival Mindset, a book called Drowning Creek and other things.
	So if you go find him at Survival Mindset on X, there it is, you'll see that little logo is his avatar.
	But he's got another venture that I want to talk about.
	That one, there you go.
	It is very cool.
	It's two crossed arrows for special forces and then some fire and water and lightning in somebody's brain.
	Is that what it is?
	Yes, the cog wheels up there represent the mindset, which is your most important.
	Dude, you mean you have a coherent logo.
	Your logo actually represents what you're talking about.
	Holy crap.
	Is that loud?
	You definitely don't work for a corporation or that wouldn't have happened.
	But you've got a new thing you've been doing that I want to tell people about.
	And it's done in this wonderful kind of retro look.
	It's an open source intelligence, kind of quick view of the world in soundbites that you call info blurbs.
	So on X, it is at info underscore blurbs.
	And you drop knowledge that you pick up in the course of your other exploits about what's going on in the world and tell people what they can get out of that.
	Well, that's right.
	The project grew out of...
	A mission that I was supporting.
	A friend of mine, you may or may not know him, he's a fellow Green Bay.
	He was involved overseas doing rescue and recovery of American citizens.
	They were involved in Afghanistan doing the Pineapple Express operation.
	And this time they were operating out of northern Israel and Lebanon, southern Lebanon.
	And I couldn't go.
	I was...
	Already occupied on another contract here in the States in my technical writing work.
	And so what I did was I backstopped them.
	I was sending forward all this information I was getting out of the region.
	And they were drinking it up.
	So I said, look, I can't keep sending this by text every time I get a message to each one of you guys.
	So I made it web-based.
	And I'm still messing around with the format, and I'm trying to figure out how to properly monetize it.
	I started with a web page, and I couldn't get Google Ads to monetize things.
	That's another story.
	What it's really about is open source intelligence.
	Now, I first became aware of this discipline of intelligence back in the late 90s when I was working out at the Intel shop at Third Special Forces Group.
	And at that time, there was an outfit called Stratford.
	You might have heard of them.
	And they were just becoming established.
	And what had happened was there was a competition put out by a national agency, of which we will not mention the name, with an open source, you know, theme.
	And who can provide the answers to these questions?
	On the premise that we live in the information age, And it's no longer the era where we need to send, you know, a two-man midget sub up a river to, you know, get photographs of something.
	The stuff is all out there.
	Open source intelligence, OSINT. And so between journalistic sources, diplomatic sources, political sources, which sometimes become human sources, and military sources, I've got a lot of resources and I'm getting a lot of information.
	So I just start putting out as much as I can.
	One of the things I like about You pointed out that no longer, because there was a time when spying was a thing.
	Okay, we had spies and we did a lot of human intelligence.
	We did human.
	We infiltrated into our enemies and we put stuff out.
	Now that still happens.
	The Israelis obviously are still kicking butt doing that.
	But the rest of us started transitioning towards more of a signals intelligence.
	Where we're gathering all of the cellular transmissions and other things and trying to make sense out of that.
	But at this point, with the interconnected nature of all of the communications online and the ability to crunch some of that using some particular kinds of software, You can get a pretty coherent worldview and situational awareness from things that are just out there by correlating them and then use your own subject matter expertise and the minds of your friends to go ahead and tighten that up.
	And that's essentially where you've got, at this point, as good a view as some of these professionals did in the past.
	Well, I'd like to remind you I am a security professional.
	But, yeah, my vision Is to provide something where a person can, at five minutes, get a glimpse of what's going on in the world.
	We're all busy.
	We don't have time to read reams and reams of articles and everything.
	Headlines, a link, you can go, you can look at the page, absorb what you need in, you know, a few seconds, go on to the next thing.
	But in five minutes or less, you can have your finger on the pulse of what's going on out there.
	That's the idea.
	I avoid politics.
	Now, if I went political, I'd probably have a million followers already, but I'm going for a slightly different niche because politics, the web is saturated with that stuff.
	I want to provide open source and as objective as possible news on the international security scene.
	Let the other guys do all the political stuff.
	And I think you've done it.
	I mean, I've been watching, obviously.
	You know, I knew you were going to do this.
	You asked me about it when you were first starting it and showed me your logo.
	And I was like, dude, you nailed the logo.
	You know, I like the graphics you use at the top of your feed on X. And again, this is at info underscore blurbs at...
	On X. But you've got the ability, because you've got a pithy enough communication style, to go ahead and drop these little nuggets and make them worthwhile.
	And I think that's something that as we look at how communications are going to happen, how information is going to be distributed, You've got to get people's attention right away.
	And places like X are the only place that's going to allow all the topics we want to talk about to happen.
	So I think you've got a good angle on this, and I hope it continues to grow for you.
	I'd just like to say, I first started paying attention to X when it was Twitter back in 2010 when I became aware there was a street revolution in Bangkok.
	Of course, I grew up in Bangkok.
	And I've worked there over the years, and I love the place.
	And they were coordinating their revolution through Twitter.
	And the revolution was different.
	Yeah, usually when they have a coup or a violent revolution in Thailand, it's over in the political side of town.
	And, you know, you'd never know anything's going on until the next day you pick up the Bangkok Post and you just find out, you know, they've had their version of an election.
	This one was different.
	It was in the business districts, in the tourist districts, and they were coordinating it by Twitter.
	So I wanted to know, what was Twitter all about?
	And I became involved.
	And it supported the old blog I had.
	In any case, since then, I've re-established, since became X. Somebody asked Elon Musk, where do you get your news?
	And he said, Twitter.
	Right away, I thought, wow.
	Now, The mainstream media has just really gone down the tubes.
	Everybody's agreeing it's dying.
	And people are moving over to Twitter.
	I've noticed one thing, and I think this dates back...
	First of all, Twitter grew out of the...
	It was a place where the journalists went to talk about their stories before they published them.
	And so in the earlier days of Twitter, there was a large component Of the active user base that was all the journalists just talking smack, congratulating each other about their stuff.
	And they didn't like it when the rest of us got in and started having the ability to have an instantaneous means of communication like this.
	And now, if you're watching...
	Real-time activities around the world.
	And I do that regularly, like you do.
	My business is information operations in support of U.S. strategic objectives.
	I see things happen first on X before they ever come out on any news source.
	And then the news sources will catch up.
	So I think it's completely changed the game.
	Okay, I'm going to have you on after the break, and I want to talk with you a little bit about some of the messier things happening in the world, Ukraine and elsewise, that could be problematic.
	But Pete Crittenden, author of Survival Mindset, he is at SurvivalMindSE1 on Twitter, and his new venture, at info underscore blurbs, is also worth checking out on Twitter.
	Subscribe to it, or don't, I don't know if it's subscription yet, but follow him and take it from there.
	We'll be back after the break.
	Break.
	That's perfect.
	Mics are hot.
	Ugh.
	So how you doing, brother?
	How's the family?
	Very well, very well.
	Getting ready for the Thanksgiving thing to launch upon us.
	I'll be deep frying two turkeys this year.
	Wow.
	You know, my birthday's in October.
	My wife and daughter conspired to have her and her husband fly out from Seattle without me knowing.
	So they showed up, and my parents fled the hurricane in Tampa to come up.
	So I had family in in October, and then we're having family in for Christmas, all the same people again.
	So this Thanksgiving, it's me, my wife, the two fluffy cats, and we're going to eat rotisserie chicken, man, and that's it.
	Not doing a thing.
	I only deep-fried two turkeys because you demolished the first one and then the other ones were the leftovers.
	Yeah, well, there you go.
	And that's smart.
	You know, because, I mean, it's the prep work that's all the hard stuff.
	You know?
	Yeah.
	Well, with the turkey, it's so easy.
	Do you inject brine?
	What do you do to flavor it?
	Just put it in boiling peanut oil.
	Rub it with all kinds of rub stuff, you know?
	But, no, I don't inject anything into it.
	You know, it seals all the juices inside.
	Oh, yeah.
	No, I'm with you.
	I'm a fan of meat preparations that are minimal as far as additional stuff.
	After this next segment, I've got to talk about dry-aging beef, which is my specialty.
	Oh, yeah.
	Important new stuff like that.
	Well, like I said, the thing with the turkey is it's 45 minutes and it's done.
	Yeah, that's awesome.
	And prep, the only prep is you rub the thing down with, put a little bit of olive oil on there so the rub sticks, you know, and I've got my secret sauce, you know, I put all over it and then deep fry the sucker.
	So you've probably got it worked out, done enough of them, but the first time I decided to deep fry a turkey, I was, you know, I'd seen enough of those videos where they're like, you're going to kill yourself by boiling it over.
	So I literally put the turkey in, poured the oil over it to see where it was going to go to, and then pulled the turkey back out and heated the oil.
	So there you go.
	There's a safety tip if someone's never done it before and you don't know how much oil.
	You do not want the oil to go over the top because it gets ugly fast when that happens.
	You want to completely thaw the bird and make sure there's no chunks of ice in it because it's the water hitting the boiling oil, which is the problem.
	A frozen chicken dropped into a vat of boiling oil will launch a fireball one meter wide, 100 feet in the air.
	Okay, now I want to do that.
	You know, I'm thinking about, I've got a big propane burner in my backyard.
	I haven't launched anything into the sky recently.
	Okay, maybe I'll do that.
	So I'll buy a rotisserie chicken and I'll buy a frozen chicken and I'll see how high I can launch it in my backyard.
	Wear your fireproof suit when you do that.
	Some sort of crane-like thing to drop it in there.
	I'll get all McIvery on this.
	We're 30 seconds out.
	I'm going to start with Ukraine and we'll talk about anything else you think might be messy.
	Maybe segue back over to the Israelis winning.
	We'll just take it where it goes.
	Very good.
	10 seconds.
	Welcome back to America First with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo.
	It's Jim Hansen.
	Hey, welcome back.
	We are having quite the morning in America and the afternoon day here on Trump's pipe hitter team, all of it.
	But I invited a pipe hitter friend of mine on because he does a lot of good stuff.
	He does open source intelligence and other things.
	His name's Pete Crittenden.
	I know him from First Special Forces Group in Okinawa, Japan.
	And he also has a new venture underway, at inflow underscore blurbs on Twitter.
	X, which is open source intelligent nuggets for those who need nugget sized open source intelligence, which is a lot of us.
	Hey Pete, I want to jump though.
	I did a rant on Ukraine because I'm actually a little scared.
	When the Biden administration gave permission to start launching, you know, attackums and the rest of this stuff, long range into Russia, I don't think Vlad took too kindly to that.
	And I'm not a Vlad Putin fan, but I just don't want this to spiral out of control.
	Do you see any major concerns in this?
	Well, yeah.
	Remember during the Cold War, we used to talk about don't poke the bear.
	Right.
	And we liked it when the bear showed up in Cuba and he had nuclear, you know, fangs over there.
	And we did something about it.
	And from that point on, there was an understanding between the Soviet Union, which is really Russia, and us, that we're not going to do things right immediately on each other's periphery.
	The Cold War was fought You know, by proxy in other places.
	And every now and then it got real hot, like Vietnam, Korea, down in El Salvador, a few other places in Africa.
	But there was sort of like a standoff.
	We never torpedoed a single Soviet ship delivering arms to North Vietnam.
	We did not do that.
	And that's what I'm talking about.
	Well, now it's like we're being very reckless and foolhardy.
	Now, I understand that we've got an obligation, a treaty obligation, to Ukraine to defend them.
	That was the agreement that we signed in writing when they gave up their nukes.
	Right on up to supplying manpower, soldiers on the ground, if necessary.
	Well, now they're calling in their marker and we've, you know, we've obliged.
	Okay.
	I have no dog in this fight.
	I'm not loyal to Ukraine.
	I'm not loyal to Putin.
	Neither.
	I've got a lot of sympathy for Ukraine the way, you know, when the Russian army shows up, it's not nice.
	Yeah.
	This thing has fought itself to a standstill.
	It's a slugfest.
	They've lost over 500,000 men on each side in two years.
	That's hellish.
	I mean, that's World War I level craziness.
	So can we contain it until January 20th?
	Because I got a very strong feeling that one of the first calls Trump makes day after inauguration is to Putin and Zelensky, maybe on conference, but either way.
	And he just says, knock it off.
	You know, your war is over.
	Let's talk about how we're getting out of it, but stop shooting at each other long enough for us to stop World War III. Well, let's look at a few scenarios.
	They could do an armstice talk, and it ends up like over there in Korea at the Panmunjom Peace Village, and where they sit around the table for the next 50 years and argue about the height of the little flagpoles in the center of the table.
	And that's better than what we've got right now.
	And there's a DMZ. And that could be that.
	That's one scenario.
	On the other hand, Putin's on the ropes.
	He's getting his ass beat.
	They've got an economy which is about the size of Italy, okay?
	And they can't withstand what we're throwing at them.
	I mean, they're hiring North Korean and African mercenaries.
	That is desperado right there.
	That's a bad sign.
	Yeah.
	So part of it is like, well, keep pushing him and keep pushing him.
	He's about to, you know, just when both sides think they're about to lose, one side's going to win.
	Or conversely, when they both think they're about to win, both could be about to lose.
	And that's the way the rules of war go.
	So there's that, you know, and what we might be seeing now is that last minute scramble to get as much real estate as you can.
	Yeah, that makes sense.
	And I think, you know, one of those scenarios, and I don't care which, I don't want us entangled in a new requirement to intervene.
	You know, I think we've done enough with that ourselves, which is why we never actually brought Ukraine into NATO. That was a place we knew Putin had his eyes on.
	If we bring them into NATO, we basically are saying, okay, now we want the big scrap, which would be a horrible idea.
	But I don't want to leave Ukraine just sitting there waiting to be plundered later.
	So I think to your point, maybe the...
	The DMZ-style agreement where, okay, you know, we're not making peace.
	We're not promising anything.
	But the U.S. goes ahead and says, if you do it again, Vlad, we're not going to be circumspect about what they can do.
	You know, we'll send them all our toys and let them use them if you start something again.
	Let's talk about that.
	Vladimir Putin is a Slav, and the Slav mindset, they're real tough.
	They're willing to stomach a lot of violence that we can't even imagine.
	And they only respect one thing, and that's brutal force.
	History has shown us this.
	In Yugoslavia, in World War II, they play for keeps in a way that we can't even imagine.
	And we've got the capability for a lot of ultraviolence here in the United States, but we just don't have that mindset.
	So there's this.
	How did this whole thing come about?
	Well, one theory is it goes back to 2015. In 2015, the price of oil dropped from 100 bucks a barrel, 110 bucks a barrel, down to under 50 bucks a barrel in six months.
	And it had repercussions all throughout the Western world.
	And I was working on an oil rig off the coast of Africa at that time, and they shut down the whole oil field.
	Wow.
	So, you know, yeah.
	Now, why was that?
	It took me a long time to understand.
	It was because Putin was dumping cheap oil on the market in a bid to break the petrodollar.
	The petrodollar is what it's all about.
	That is our currency, and it's how we rule the world.
	That's what makes us so big, so vast, so huge, so powerful.
	Our economy is bigger than the whole rest of the world put together.
	Our navy is bigger than all the navies in the world put together, probably twice as big as all of them.
	The petrodollar is our basis.
	You break that thing, you break us.
	And Putin's gambit was to, you know, establish Russia as a superpower to break the West.
	He's got to be punished.
	But isn't then, okay, the punishment can either be, as some of these people have been doing, to continually try to degrade his military and maybe cause him to lose power in Russia, or it could be economic.
	And it could be related to, you take some punishment economically, and we give you a path back to prosperity if you play well with the other kids in your neighborhood.
	And I think that, to me, is a much better way to deal with this.
	Pete, I want to, again, remind people, your book, Drowning Creek, Survival Mindset, both of those are excellent.
	On Twitter, at SurvivalMindSE1, and at info underscore blurbs, check out his open source intelligence there.
	It is a great way, if you're interested in finding out what's happening on a daily basis all around the world.
	So, good talking with you, Pete.
	We'll have you back on soon.
	Thank you very much.
	It's always a pleasure.
	And congratulations, Gorka.
	Right on.
	Well, hey, I'm going to open up the phone lines, 833-333-GORCA, 833-334-6752.
	Got a couple segments left.
	left.
	If you want to talk, now's the time.
	Braves, dude.
	I know.
	That was cool.
	I still always sing that, but only three and the foreign officers win the Green Beret.
	Fully grown men who whine and cry.
	There's so many better lines to that.
	Dude, it was a pleasure.
	I think that was informative and hopefully, dude, I hope Info Bloops takes off, man.
	I think it's a great idea and I love the style.
	Thanks very much.
	I've gained like 200 followers in the past two days.
	So it's going somewhere.
	That's doing something.
	But I'm busy on a deadline right now.
	I couldn't do any info blurbs today.
	Well, I mean, until it pays, work counts.
	We don't have to like it, but we got to do it.
	That's right.
	Well, good talking to you, brother.
	Thanks, Jim.
	Thanks very much.
	All right, man.
	Bye-bye.
	Bye.
	Oh.
	Alrighty then, so read here, and then you're clear for the rest of the show as far as reads go.
	Well, the intercom today is garbage.
	I don't know if it's me.
	Is it struggling to hear us?
	You know, now wait, maybe I just gotta shove it all the way through to the other side of my head.
	I'll bring mine tomorrow.
	Jim, the audiophile, is whining about the sound quality, shocking everyone.
	Do you want to use any of these cuts, by the way?
	We still have the three cuts that you asked of us.
	The what?
	The three video cuts.
	You know, dude, see, and speaking of things I forget about, I don't even remember what they were.
	I mean, going on a whole show without video cuts is, again, a testament to what a natural you are.
	But yeah, cut one was the Axios guy seeing Elon Musk's Twitter is bullshit.
	Cut two is Ben Rhodes, Trump making the government ideological for the first time.
	That little son of a bitch.
	I think Cut3 is the Walmart CEO of Rolling Back DEI. Okay, well, I should have used that when I did the Walmart ring.
	The Robbie Starbuck thing.
	All right.
	Probably not.
	Okay.
	I'm going to do the read, and then if we've got a caller, I'll start there.
	Okay.
	Although, I wouldn't mind.
	Yeah.
	Now that you say that, we'll see if we get another caller and how that goes.
	How long is this segment?
	Six minutes.
	Okay.
	Yep.
	It's a shorter one.
	Well...
	I'm going to play it by ear.
	I get it.
	play by ear I'm just glad this isn't a I could not.
	Yeah.
	I'm glad it's an afternoon show, too.
	I mean, Hugh Hewitt.
	He's got to be up at 1 o'clock every day and go in and do, what, three hours of radio?
	Mm-hmm.
	And his team, I think.
	Isn't it his team?
	No, what's worse is before he was at Morning Show, but he worked in California, and his team stayed on.
	So they live in California.
	Yeah.
	So they are...
	They're up even earlier.
	Like 3 to 6 is the actual show there.
	Oh, where's Hugh at?
	Here.
	He's in D.C., yeah.
	Oh, so he's scamming.
	Because when Schlichter guest-hosted, he goes in and sits with Dwayne.
	But yeah, like Jeff said, the team in California is up at 3 in the morning.
	The best is the people of here get a morning show in California.
	I can't even comprehend that.
	Your sleep schedule is just gone.
	Welcome back to America First with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo.
	It's Jim Hansen.
	As we head into Thanksgiving week, I want to invite you to share your blessings with children who have a mom or dad in prison.
	They face the prospect of a Christmas without joy this year.
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	All through Prison Fellowship's Angel Tree program.
	Thank you.
	Okay.
	Hey, I want to play one of the clips since I just remembered that we have clips because, I don't know, I'm not a professional radio guy.
	But I want to hear cut one where the CEO of Axios is talking smack about my favorite platform, X. But there's something about the country.
	There's something about it, right?
	There's something about freedom, capitalism, the animal spirits of democracy.
	But at the core of that is maybe transparency, maybe a free press, maybe the ability to do your job without worrying to go to jail, maybe the ability to sit in a war zone and tell people what's actually happening so they're not just looking at distortion matters.
	It matters profoundly.
	It's not like we just love getting up at 3 or 4 in the morning doing this every single day.
	We do it because we love it.
	We do it because it matters.
	The work that we do matters.
	Everything we do is under fire.
	Elon Musk sits on Twitter every day or X today saying, like, we are the media.
	You are the media.
	My message to Elon Musk is, bullshit!
	You're not the media!
	No, he's not.
	Because Elon Musk and most of us on Twitter do a much better job of presenting the reality and the facts and doing so in a way that is not purely partisan.
	Or if it is, we at least admit it.
	Whereas you, Jim VandeHei and Axios and Politico and all the rest of you swine who are in that room congratulating yourselves, acting like you're somehow better, like you're somehow these noble solons of information who will deign to provide that to the rest of us who are incapable of learning without your assistance.
	Well, BS to you, buddy.
	You're the one whose industry has destroyed itself, destroyed its credibility, and made it impossible for anyone to assume that anything they see coming out of a regime media outlet is anything other than partisan propaganda.
	And you're the one talking about your actual voices of reason?
	You're not.
	You never have been since well before Walter Cronkite.
	It's been 50 years since we even had a media being worthy of being called journalism.
	So I don't want to be lectured to by a guy who is head of a left-wing propaganda rag that is doing everything it can.
	Let's see, during the election, 90 plus percent of the stories about Kamala Harris were positive and 90 plus percent of the stories about Donald Trump were negative.
	But yeah, we can trust you?
	Shut your mouth!
	These people are shameless.
	They truly believe that the rest of us are so ignorant, so incapable of seeing beyond our own biases, that they can't see beyond their biases, that we actually do a better job of it.
	Crowdsourced news on X, reality checked in somewhat close to real time by Community Notes, Trump's every single form of regime palace scribe media that now is on its last legs.
	You know, MSNBC's up for sale.
	I really and truly hope Elon buys it and just closes it.
	Because there's no point.
	It's not like the brand's worth anything.
	The brand is garbage.
	The audience is the talent, and I air-quoted that, is garbage.
	And the audience is people who are so lost in their own delusions that there's no point in trying to do anything other than rile them up to get them to light their torches, grab their pitchforks, and go attack anybody who disagrees with them.
	Which is us.
	So buy MSNBC, Elon.
	We'll run it for six months on a whim.
	Giggle about it.
	And who knows?
	Maybe you'll replace Fox News.
	Could happen.
	But if you don't, it's chump changed you.
	It's a couple billion dollars.
	Who cares?
	You're making that every day.
	Alright, we got one more segment after this.
	Again, I'll open up the phone lines, or two more.
	I'll open up the phone lines at 833-33-GORCA, 833-334-6752.
	If anyone has anything to say, let us know.
	Two cuts left then.
	We got the Ben Rhodes cut and then the Walmart cut.
	So you're probably not going to use the Walmart cut?
	Yeah, the Walmart's been overcome by my big mouth.
	That would have been nice.
	Better content.
	But yeah, no, we've got the Ben Rhodes cut if you want to use that either here or in the final segment.
	I hate Ben Rhodes.
	He is one of the worst people ever.
	And part of it was he was really good at what they were doing.
	He understood that his number one priority was to be a propagandist.
	And he took it to heart.
	And I mean, they elevated him to what was he was deputy NSA. That's what he was.
	He was Deputy NSA for propaganda for Obama.
	Oh, man.
	And they were great at it.
	You know, I mean, you can hate Obama as much as anybody does, and I do, but you have to recognize, politically, they were horrendously effective, and that did major damage to the country.
	Same with Axelrod, yeah.
	Oh, that's son of a...
	I hate those people.
	I'm so glad they're not in power.
	It's such a weird feeling, again, realizing that we're about to have the ultimate dream team in power.
	Yeah.
	And it's not them.
	And they'll never...
	You know, those guys will be done.
	Rhodes might...
	He might make it to the next administration.
	But who knows?
	If we get our four Trump and then eight of J.D. Vance...
	Please, God.
	I was saying that Trump-Vance is the best Republican ticket since Eisenhower-Nixon.
	I think it absolutely...
	A friend of mine said, yeah, Vance probably has potential to be the next Nixon.
	Minus, you know, the unceremonious end of his presidency, but...
	You know, I understand what you're saying, and it makes...
	What the fuck?
	There's something going on.
	Hold on.
	I gotta dick with my thing again.
	There's one spot where it sounds good.
	How's that?
	That's it.
	There you go.
	Okay.
	I just have a hard time...
	You know, Nixon's just...
	His brand is so tarnished that all the things he did that were good are hard to...
	You know, to deal with, because of the fact that he's Nixon, you know, Watergate and all that crap.
	I think he's an even better president than Reagan, if I'm being honest.
	I really do.
	I love the fact that you've got the most slightly offbeat conservative ideas, you know?
	It's all those NatCon weirdos you hang out with, who I love.
	That's a great crowd.
	Jeff's about to come over the back.
	I will choke the life out of you!
	Let's see.
	Reagan later life-supported gun control.
	He closed the asylums.
	He approved amnesty, which basically turned California permanently blue.
	Yeah, but he made me feel good.
	Nixon gets a bad rap.
	For one, he was trolling the media long before Trump ever came along.
	He was bashing the media on a regular basis because they hated him non-stop.
	He was calling the The press bums.
	All right, here's the problem for Nixon.
	He was unsightly, and he ended up hiring the wrong plumbers.
	Yeah, that's unfortunate.
	Personnel is a problem for that as well.
	Personnel is always the problem.
	He was a genius, no doubt, when it came to foreign policy and strategy.
	No, I'll give you that.
	The reason people love Reagan is because he won 49 states.
	But you know who else won 49 states?
	Richard Nixon.
	The original law and order precedent.
	The original law and order precedent.
	The original law and order precedent.
	Welcome back to America First with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo.
	It's Jim Hansen.
	All right.
	We are closing in on the...
	First of my two days guest hosting for Dr. G, who is training right now to go ahead and start personally sending jihadists off to catch their 72 goats in paradise.
	And I'm enjoying it.
	I want to go ahead.
	I opened the phone line so we could chat with some of you.
	So they are open 833-33-GORCA, 833-334-6752.
	But right now I want to check in and see what Shirley in Atlanta wants to talk about.
	Hey, Shirley, you there?
	Oh, yes, I am.
	Sorry about that.
	Yes, hope that things are great today with our newscaster.
	I'm calling because I do believe that our President Biden goal is if he cannot take over the White House again, he will destroy the United States of America.
	If he can't win, nobody can.
	That's what I believe.
	And the last person that left his speech...
	On this show a couple minutes ago, he was fantastic.
	He truly, truly laid it on the line, the truth in black and white about the newscaster and what it really entails nowadays.
	Thank you.
	Well, thank you for your call.
	And Shirley, I agree with you.
	I think, first of all, I think Biden was less a member of his administration than the Biden administration was.
	but it's emblematic of what's wrong with the political left in America right now.
	They are so beholden to the power they've had and amassed over the past several decades that they'll do anything to keep it and they'll use it for any purposes they want.
	So whether it's cheating in elections, whether it's going ahead and using the power of the state to attack their political enemies— You know, they did everything they could to try and take down Donald Trump.
	It is the most unprecedented abusive state power in the history of this country.
	No single person has been persecuted by the government more than Donald Trump.
	There's not even a close second.
	And he survived all of it.
	He made it through.
	They stole one election.
	They cheated.
	I'm not a fan of the idea it was the machines, but they registered fictitious people.
	They registered illegal aliens.
	They harvested ballots.
	They miscounted.
	They didn't check to see if signatures match.
	They did every number of things, and they tried to do it again.
	They did that in 2020. It worked.
	They tried to do it again in 2024, and guess what?
	It was too big to rig.
	And thank God for that.
	Absent that, we would be in a situation where we did not have control of our government.
	We were going to lose control of the Supreme Court.
	And our republic would have been in serious jeopardy.
	Now we have a chance to restore it.
	So I think that's phenomenal.
	And I want to do one more cut because I think it's pertinent.
	My boy Ben Rhodes, the little toad, Chief propagandist for the Obama administration.
	Let's play Ben's cut.
	They're talking about something much different than just a standard-issue executive order.
	They've spent four years preparing to completely remake these agencies into ideological extensions of Donald Trump's political interests and the MAGA movement.
	That is a much deeper transformation of the federal government than anything that we've seen, certainly in my lifetime.
	That's a damn lie, because he did worse than that to the federal government while he was a member of the Obama administration.
	So the idea, and with the left, it's always smart to start with the idea that they're projecting their own badness and bad ideas and guilt onto us.
	So when you hear a leftist accusing us of something, you can be certain That they're either doing it or planning to do it or want to do it.
	In Ben Rhodes' case, he did it.
	He was the propaganda's minister inside Obama's National Security Council, and he operationalized multiple federal agencies along with the rest of them.
	It was not just him.
	He's just he was the mouthpiece and he was exceptionally good at being a propaganda czar.
	So it was effective.
	They lied to the American people.
	They took federal agencies and turned them into tools of the leftist Obama agenda.
	Biden administration, third iteration of the Obama agenda.
	And he has the audacity, the unmitigated gall to sit there on that garbage network and lie about the fact that us fixing that, us taking those agencies back, stopping them from the abuse they've been doing since he stopping them from the abuse they've been doing since he was in office against their political enemies and claiming that it's a novel thing that we just thought of, that we're going to do it.
	When in actuality, all we're doing is stopping them from their continued abuse of doing it.
	It's stunning.
	He is one of the most shameless liars in the history of American public participation.
	I don't like the little weasel.
	I really, really dislike him.
	But I like the fact that he's out front again.
	I want him saying things like that so we can point out the absurdity.
	Because before, when he was doing it for Obama, we didn't have the platforms we do now.
	Okay, we had Fox News, we had talk radio, and those were important.
	But what we have now, adding X to the mix, is that real-time aspect where we're talking to them.
	Because talk radio, we talk mostly to us, which is important.
	It's vital.
	You know, we have to know among ourselves what we're talking about.
	But we're not talking to them.
	On X, you can embarrass leftists directly.
	Elon Musk is a king of it.
	Obviously, I'm a fan of attacking and speaking truth to power.
	Again, a leftist concept that we're using for the power of good, they use for the power of evil.
	And you embarrass them by pointing out what they're actually doing.
	You don't even have to lie.
	They talk about misinformation, disinformation.
	We simply get in public now, speak the truth, and now all of our pieces of our communications puzzle, you know, we've got TV, we've got talk radio, and we've got X to cover the online piece.
	Now we have an interconnecting fields of fire among those.
	That is capable of competing with the vast left-wing noise machine people like Ben Rhodes helped build and helped weaponize and use against the American public.
	So suck it, little buddy.
	We're taking you down.
	We're taking your tools away.
	We're taking your toys away.
	We're shutting down your ability to lie to the American people with no consequences.
	And I hope you hate it.
	Alright, this is Jim Hansen.
	We have one more segment left, and I am going to enlighten everyone, based on a suggestion from the Rumble Chat, about dry-aging prime meats.
	Mostly beef, but we'll talk about all of it and give you some tips.
	It's not hard, and we'll figure it out because it tastes phenomenal.
	This is Jim Hansen, back after the break with more America First.
	Yeah, baby.
	They're showing Hulk Hogan on Fox News.
	I love it.
	We need Hulk Hogan.
	He should be on the Presidential Fitness Council, yeah.
	That'd be great.
	The Presidential Fitness Council?
	I think that's the one he's angling for, isn't it?
	I don't know.
	Sure.
	I'm fine with that.
	I mean, steroids are good for you, right?
	Isn't that what we decided?
	We decided every...
	We got Bobby Kennedy.
	He's a big human growth hormoner.
	He's still alive, so steroids can't be that bad.
	Yeah, there you go.
	Sure.
	Secretary of Swole.
	Secretary of Swole.
	He's got to be almost 70 now, isn't he?
	Hogan?
	Hogan.
	Got to be.
	Just rips off his shirt at every press conference.
	Just to show he can still do it.
	Yeah, you know.
	If I had guns like that, I might do it.
	He's 71. 71. Yeah.
	71 is the new old guy with muscles.
	That still really is one of the all-time great images from the campaign, is him ripping off his shirt to reveal the trumpet.
	We have an emo for that in chat, in the Rumble chat.
	We have an emo for that.
	We should.
	Oh, yes.
	We're watching it live.
	I'm not even a huge fan of wrestling, and that's probably why I didn't see it coming, because I didn't know that that was his thing to rip off his shirt, but then he just starts doing it.
	I'm like, oh my god.
	Oh, I knew it was coming.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, that was when I was in Okinawa.
	As a matter of fact, we used to watch wrestling every I think it was on Sundays.
	And I mean, we'd get everybody we had a we had a bar.
	We called it the gay men's bar because there were never any chicks in it.
	We had to go over to the Air Force base to find women because we were on a smaller base.
	It was just us, basically.
	So the gay men's bar, we'd have all the dudes in there just drinking and yelling and screaming and jumping off tables and pounding each other.
	We were fun, man.
	That was back when you were allowed to be a wild man.
	Yes!
	We need to bring that back.
	Bring back being wild.
	I'm trying.
	It's just, you know, I got to encourage the Utes.
	The Utes got to go a little crazy.
	They're all health obsessed now, you know?
	I got to start getting them to do shots of seed oil just to be badasses.
	RFK is already, his work is already paying off.
	Yeah, there you go.
	Changing the culture.
	Oh, I was spitballing this with some buddies in the group chat.
	2028 ticket.
	Vance Gabbard.
	I'm in.
	Can you imagine?
	First female president is a Republican who used to be a Democrat.
	Let's see how she does as ODNI. I'm excited for that.
	But I hate to have a positive attitude.
	Welcome back to America First with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo.
	It's Jim Hansen.
	All right.
	We're going to finish strong because no segment or discussion about prime beef could ever be a bad thing.
	So we asked the Rumble Chat, my people, to go ahead and give some suggestions for the final segment.
	And I dry-age beef.
	They wanted to hear about it.
	I talk about it on Twitter, show pictures.
	Dry-aging beef, if you have a dry-aging refrigerator, is the easiest thing in the world.
	I have a fridge.
	It's under the counter, you know, the size of a dorm fridge or a wine fridge.
	It's got a microbial light to kill bacteria.
	It's got a water reservoir and filter to keep the humidity within one or two percent.
	And it's also got a very solid temperature control.
	You can get them anywhere from about $400 up to as much as you want to spend.
	But the more you spend, the more likely it is to stay at the correct temperature and humidity, which for me is 35 degrees and 70% humidity.
	Then you just go find a nice big chunk of prime beef and you throw it in there and you close the fridge and you walk away and come back 30 days later.
	Swear to God, that's all it is.
	Now, lots of craziness happens.
	You know, it's going to grow mold on it, which is weird to look at.
	It's going to, you know, the outside gets crusty and nasty and it looks horrible.
	But what's happening inside, that's like the outside eighth of an inch of the whole thing.
	So if you've got a giant rib roast, you know, like I usually do about a four-bone rib roasts, and I have them do the tomahawk cut with the extra band of meat around it to protect the full rib eye and the cap of the rib eye.
	For anyone who knows rib eyes, there's a rib eye, the round oval piece, and then the cap is the arc of muscle, the spinalis muscle, that goes across the top, which is my favorite.
	So the tomahawk roast cut Leaves an additional muscle on the outside of that and the fat cap above that so that the actual cap, which is not real thick, doesn't lose any of its mass by being on the outside like a regular rib roast.
	A regular rib roast would have the cap exposed.
	In this case, there's another muscle over it.
	So all that sits there.
	The enzymes inside the beef break down the connective tissue and it moves to become much more tender, much more flavorful.
	And then when you hit the 30 days, or I go up to 45, I've even gone to 60. But when you go to 45, I don't see much more of a difference.
	It's got a lot more different flavors, I would say.
	At 30 days, what you get out is you're going to get something that tastes like a steakhouse steak, a high-end steakhouse steak, Morton's, you know, one of the places, Charlie Palmer's, whatever.
	It's gonna taste like that.
	You go to 45, it gets a little bit spicier and weird, and not really weird, but different.
	You'll taste different things.
	You go to 60, and it's definitely a different taste, and I didn't think it was worth it.
	So I highly recommend it to anyone who wants to go ahead and do it, because then you're getting something that you could spend $60 or $70 for if you go to a high-end steakhouse.
	Right in your own house, you just gotta do a little bit of butchery, which is fun.
	It's a good reason to buy some expensive knives, which is great.
	You know, it's just got everything going for it.
	And you get prime ribeye steak.
	So anyhow, there you go.
	That's going to wrap up the show today.
	I will be back tomorrow because Dr. G is still chasing chickens to get in shape.

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